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around 9:30 p.m., and after a 10-minute shooting spree, six bystanders had been shot. the gunman was found dead in his car. a semiautomatic handgun with him. >> we're joined by justice correspondent evan perez, also hln law enforcement analyst, mike brooks. evan, we want to start with you. we know that there are some federal resources that have become part of this investigation. what do we know that maybe they've learned, as we've heard from the sheriff, about the suspect? >> well, victor, this morning, this is exactly what they're trying to do. they're trying to figure out what they can -- what they can glean from the social media, from his writings, from this video that we know the law enforcement authorities are looking at, because they want to figure out whether or not how much planning went into this, what the motivation might have been. obviously, the suspect is dead, according to the police. so he can't say anything anymore. but he left behind a lot of

information that authorities are going to be trying to figure out. one of the other things that the federal authorities are involved in is trying to trace the handgun, the semiautomatic handgun recovered from the scene. there is a great deal of resources there, because the atf and the fbi can help use their crime labs, they can do a lot of stuff to figure out where he got this gun, perhaps when he obtained it, whether it was his or someone else's. and if there was anything -- anyone who might have known this was going to happen. the atf, for example, has a ballistics system that can trace perhaps if this gun was stolen and if it was used in any other crimes. so those are the things that are being done at this hour by the atf, by the fbi as they try to help the local police to try to solve this. >> mary ellen, he's being described by the sheriff as a madman, saying this was premeditated mass murder. when you've got a guy in a car

who, as we've heard from people, interestingly enough, engaging with people, actually talking to people before he shoots, it sounds like, what does that tell you about who this person is and what his mindset is? >> well, i would caution -- i would -- and i know the sheriff said to use caution -- to use the word madman to imply this person was debilitated by mental illness. i have had cases that i've worked in the past where the shooter has gone up to the victim, engaged in conversation, and then shot them in the head. so this is not foreign behavior. i've seen this before. this behavior, just from what we can see right now, this is behavior that this shooter was enjoying. and i know that sounds very odd to your listeners that someone could do this kind of thing and really enjoy it, but that's what

it appears to be. we've seen that in other cases. the intention was to probably kill as many people as he could before the police interceded with him. some of the victims could have been people that he knew, but others were strangers, he didn't know. he was okay with collateral damage. but i think the whole scene that we're seeing here is that this is someone that thought about this ahead of time and once he's in the midst of diddi indoing is able to think pretty clearly, and he was enjoying the behavior as long as it lasted. it gave him a feeling of power and omnipotence. >> and we want to say this is new video from the scene. you can see people there shaking their heads. we talked to witnesses this morning who said the feeling there now in isla vista is just a strong sense of confusion. nobody understands, obviously, why it would happen. and some people are probably trying to wrap their head around

exactly what did happen. but you can see the strong presence of police cars. the tape that has cordoned off, as we understand, a huge swath of that little downtown area in this small college town. it's a beachside community. mike brooks is with us now. mike, how long do you think -- with nine crime scenes pocketed throughout this area -- it's going to take for them to compile their information and let people get back there? >> just looking at the video coming in now, christi, it looks like a large area. when you have nine crime scenes -- so i would say a good part of the isla vista downtown area is going to be shut off, for at least the rest of the day, while the santa barbara sheriff's office, the fbi, the california highway patrol, while they process each one of the crime scenes. because even though the gunman is now dead, the alleged gunman is dead, they still have to process the scene just like they would any other scene. so they're going to take their time. there's no hurry. there's no rush. and now, also try to find out what the motive was for this

shooting. you know? and if, in fact, this youtube video, which i was just looking at during the last break, is involved in this, they are going to come to the bottom of what the motive was. >> okay. and, of course, we're waiting to get more guidance on a video that the sheriff has referenced. of course, we're not naming the alleged suspect here. i want to go to john paulminteri with keyt. john, we've heard from the sheriff's office. we've heard from eyewitnesses, ear-witnesses, people who heard things, but we've not heard from the university of california at santa barbara. have you heard from them? have they released a statement to maybe the local affiliates? why haven't we heard from them considering that, you know, there were witnesses, at least, who were students there? still no positive victims or those in the hospital, but why? >> i want to say the university

is adjacent to isla vista, and many people view them as one and the same. but they're two different properties. the university will likely come out today very supportive of all of the students that need any counselling or therapy. and they're going to find out who the victims are, and whether or not they were their students or not, as well. but this is truly an off-campus shooting incident. although everyone knows that they're one and the same and tied together in many ways. the university is certainly up and operating, and were notified, and they're probably getting everything lined up so they can find out who was injured, who was killed, and what they can do to offer either services or places for the families to gather to talk or meet with investigators, along with the students who are -- there are so many eyewitnesses, the students, who not only go to the university of california santa barbara, but also the nearby community college. and we're talking 17, 18, 19, 20, 21-year-olds, and this has

to be a tragic start to the day for them. and they will need help in counselling, beyond their friends and their social media. >> john, any confirmation that either from uc santa barbara or the community college you're referencing, that they are involved officially with the investigation? >> there's no message to us that they are at this time. but in any past off-campus incidents at this level, or something close to it, we had a street riot, an extension of a party seen out there recently, and the university was engaged in the response as well at that time. so they will be inline with the sheriff's office. they won't be a distant party to this at all. >> john, you mentioned earlier when we talked to you -- we know that the seven people that are hospitalized are being treated not only for gunshot wounds, but some for traumatic injuries, a head injury, a bicyclist who was hit with the car that the suspect was driving. he has a massive -- massive head

trauma, we understand. do you know whether the suspect was not only using his gun as a weapon, but did he seem to be using his car as a weapon, as well? >> it doesn't appear as if he -- that we know of -- that he was trying to drive into people. i haven't heard any eyewitness say he was weaving around and doing that. you have that shot of the windshield of the car that you've been showing our audience, that is smashed in as it is in the location where it wrecked at the final stop, where the suspect -- alleged gunman -- was taken out of the car and had that head injury. and that windshield is smashed in. and witnesses and experts in the investigation team have told me personally that that kind of impact, that smashes a windshield like that, is definitely from someone going up and over, or someone into. and they pointed out and said that's the bicyclist that hit

the windshield. so we believe it was on that same street, which is called del playa drive, one step's edge from the beach, and it's crowded, both with bikes, and a heavily bike community, probably 10,000, 15,000 bicyclists out there, on the campus and on foot. so anybody driving down that street is likely to hit somebody if they're driving -- either speeding, running from the cops, or driving erratically. it's a tragedy. and that, also, speaks to that they were calling on the police and fire scanners aggressively for as many ambulances as they could in trying to deploy them to make sure they could sort them out. and that particular victim may not -- may have been one of the first ones that assisted by an ambulance service, but was assisted by sheriff's deputies who were on the radio calling, "we need one here, we need an ambulance for this bicyclist with a traumatic head injury

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the breaking news this morning, the shooting in isla vista, in california, just next to the university of california, santa barbara campus. you're looking there at new video we're getting in as crews are investigating the nine crime scenes where seven people have been killed, including the alleged shooter. seven injured, in hospitals there. we know that one person has undergone surgery. we're still waiting for updates on them. no names have been released. not of the shooter, of the six people that he shot, we're hearing from the sheriff, nor of the seven people who are at hospitals. >> james allen fox is criminologist and the author of "the crime and punish." blog at "the boston globe." when you hear about this -- james, thank you so much for being with us -- what is the first thing that stands out to you? >> well, what the reason is.

people often presume in a case like this, it's someone who snaps and suddenly goes berserk and shoots indiscriminately. most mass murderers kill for a reason, it's generally revenge. they feel they've been wronged by society or wronged by a group of people, and they're out for payback. they're not mentally ill. they don't hear voices commanding them to kill. but they are depressed, despondent, don't want to live anymore, but first, they have to get even with all the people they hold responsible for their problems. >> okay. we've got some sound from the sheriff's department that kind of speaks to part of the investigation and some of the things they're looking at regarding this suspect. listen to this -- >> we have videotaped evidence, and we have written evidence, that appears to have been completed by the suspect. >> would that videotaped evidence include the video entitled [ bleep ]. >> we're investigating to determine that at this time, by

it would appear that that is connected with this crime. >> so, mike brooks, when you have somebody who, as the sheriff is saying there, believes to have left written notes on what was going to happen or videos -- >> mm-hmm. >> -- how much of that plays into, you know, the very early stages, where we are now? >> i think it plays a big role in it, because early on they said that they had identified who this person was. so if they go back and look at this videotaped evidence that they're speaking of, and they say that they feel it is him involved with it, then that kind of gives them a good track on where to go, who to talk to, and looking for other written and other videotaped evidence that maybe this subject had in the past. >> let's go -- back out to james allen fox, who runs this crime and punishment blog.

let me ask you, beyond the video -- if this video was, indeed, produced and recorded by the suspect -- are there usually signs that people miss? the conversations? you know, the comments that are made in passing? >> sure. and hindsight, we can always find those red flags that people miss, but they're actually more yellow flags that don't turn red until after the fact. so many people, unfortunately, will give off these kinds of warning signs, but they do nothing. so if we want to believe that we can identify mass murderers in advance and prevent them or stop them or intervene, we'd be sorely disappointed. these are rare events. and unfortunately, we cannot identify them in advance. now, certainly, if, indeed, we do find there's videos and letters, this is very common. mass murderers typically will tell the world why they're going

to do what they're going to do, because they don't want to be seen as crazy. they want to be seen as someone who was getting justice. they're right and everyone else is wrong, and they're punishing the people they hold responsible. so they want us to know why they've done what they're about to do. >> all right. james allen fox, criminologist for northeastern university, and also writes the "crime and punish." blog for "the boston globe." stick around, we have hln analyst mike brooks here to talk about the law enforcement element of this. we're going to take a quick break, but we've got much more on the breaking news from isla vista, next to the university of california, santa barbara campus. seven dead, seven injured. the question is, why? >> we've got keyun lau on the way to the scene. [male vo] inside this bag exists

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this incident appears to be a mass murder situation. the timeline, as we've been able to put it together thus far, is as follows -- at 9:27 p.m., the sheriff's dispatch center received calls of multiple gunshots being fired in the isla vista area. we had deputies in the area on foot who also heard a number of shots being fired. the deputies began responding in the direction of the gunshots, and immediately found several victims who were suffering from gunshot wounds. >> so seven people -- seven families -- waking up this morning to the news -- or possibly got the news overnight -- that they have lost somebody they loved. the seven people that died. seven other families most likely at the hospitals with the seven other people who have been shot, wounded traumatically in some

way from this incident. and in this really small college town. a beach side community as it's known, isla vista near u.c., santa barbara. john palminteri with keyt, i know you all were on the scene very quickly after this happe d happened. it's been described as a slow-rolling -- seen as a slow-rolling, driving, this man shooting, at random. but what have you heard about the reports we're hearing that he actually stopped and engaged with people? that he talked to some people before shooting at them? >> we have some eyewitnesses that believe that some of the female victims did hear his voice, or turned to him when he called out at them, when he came by, and at least two were fatally shot. one was on a bicycle, as we have shown the audience, in the pictures that have come out, and also another was shot in front of a convenience store and

wounded, and was rescued heroically by the employees of that 7-eleven there that came out and got her. even when sheriff's deputies were engaging in gunfire, to rescue her and get her out of the way. on the other side of the equation, there is a store that has broken windows we've seen, with bullet holes in it. and that was a group of people -- both young men and young women -- going into the isla vista deli market, i believe it's called. and as i understand from my eyewitnesses who were on bikes in that area, right behind the car, slowed down and shots were fired at the building there. and then, around the block at another area that was a small restaurant, pizza/cafe-type place, and bullets hit the window there, hit the trash can there. so they have all these areas cordoned off. and what they do in this investigation, as this day goes forward now, is find out what the roadmap was, where it started, and then try to gather

the evidence on the ground, the casings, shell casings, how many shots were fired. where did they hit, where didn't they hit. who was struck. were there any conversations? there's a whole list, as we've talked about, and lou made reference to, the number of investigators that are going to be needed to do this. and they have all of their notes from all of the people they've been investigating throughout the dark of the night and into the morning, that were eyewitnesses and were very cooperative to stick around and give their story. but, also, just map this out. when were -- when did this start, and where did it end? but it appears as if the sheriff's deputies who engaged in gunfire with this suspect are the ones that slowed him down, and then brought this to an end. and had they not done that, who knows? he could have kept driving around and shooting at people until he was stopped somewhere else. >> all right, john, stand by. cnn justice reporter evan perez is with us this morning. evan, you have new information about the federal resources that have now become part of this investigation. what have you learned? >> that's right, victor.

the atf and the fbi are both assisting the local authorities with this scene. obviously, they have a lot of experience with these types of incidents. the staanta barbara sheriff and police are smaller agencies, so you would suspect they don't deal with these types of things very often. so the fbi and the atf will help with the tracing of the handgun, which was recovered at the scene. and this is something they've been doing a lot of work on, simply because there've been, unfortunately, a great deal of these incidents across the country. they're trying to figure out how to help local police deal with these incidents, because they're happening all too commonly now. and what they find is, you know, what the police there did, which is respond within minutes -- this is a very crowded area, so obviously, it was very key to get to the scene and to be able to try to engage the gunman as soon as possible. but you can see within ten minutes, there's still seven

people who were able -- who he was able to shoot, according to the sheriff's office, and seven people are dead as a result. >> all right, evan perez with the justice department, thank you so much. our justice department correspondent, i should say. kyung lah, our cnn reporter, is at the scene. we'll be talking to her on the other side of this break. just have to take a quick one. but again, she has reached the scene there today. she's going to let us in on exactly what's going on now with this investigation at that point.

we welcome our viewers here in the u.s. and tuning in from around the world. we're covering the breaking news this morning out of california. that deadly shooting overnight in a california college town. seven people dead, including the gunman. seven others are at a hospital with what's being described as gunshot wounds, also some other traumatic injuries. >> okay. so here's what we know this hour.

the incident happened last night in the small community of isla vista. this is near the u.c., santa barbara campus, described as a beach side community. according to the sheriff, the first reports of gunfire came in around 9:30 last night. and after a ten-minute shooting spree, six bystanders had been killed. the gunman was found dead in his car, a semiautomatic handgun with him. and seven other people were injured. our reporter kyung lah is at the scene now. kyung, what are you -- what are you seeing there this morning? >> reporter: well, i can tell you that this entire college town -- and this is, christi, a very typical college town. i'm looking at 7-elevens and various pizza shops, coffee shops, a very typical college town -- there is police tape strewn back and forth across the streets here. it's zigzagging. there are a number of scenes. i see police officers and sheriff's deputies, just counting from where i'm standing, looks like they're

covering several different corners here, because we're talking about a series of shootings. this all started at 9:27 last night, friday evening, here at the university of -- u.c., santa barbara. kids are filling the streets at this time of the day. they're getting ready to go out. they're out at the pizza shops. out at the coffee shops. and that's when all of the firing, the shooting began. the suspect vehicle zigzagging its way across, through this very busy area. and that's -- when you're standing here and you're looking at the number of crime scenes, and the businesses i'm looking at, you can see how so many people could be hurt so quickly. so a very large investigation. a number of agencies involved here. you know, i can't see anything beyond the tape, but this looks like a very, very large area that they're going to be combing through, christi. >> kyung lah, stand by. i want to get to hln law enforcement analyst mike brooks. mike, we know that this ended

when the suspect was shot. has that yet been confirmed, if it was a self-inflicted gun wound -- >> right. >> -- or from one of the deputies within he had shots back and forth, this shoot-out? what does your experience tell you how these typically end? is it typical that it would end with a self-inflicted gun wound, or that this person would kind of go toward these officers? >> you know, there's a possibility that he could have encouraged a gun battle between he and law enforcement, because we know he got involved in at least two gun battles. one six minutes after the first calls started coming in, one three minutes later when he was found dead. you know, a lot of times people who are involved in mass shootings like this, they will confront law enforcement and hoping law enforcement kills them. it's victim-precipitated homicide, better known as "suicide by cop." what we don't know in this particular situation, if he took his own life or if he was killed by sheriff's deputies in the second gun battle. >> i want to reference the video you're looking at here.

if we can get back to that video of the black bmw, the one that he was driving, we will see that that windshield is shattered, that front windshield. see it there in. >> yeah. >> we thought perhaps earlier somebody shot that out. but john palminteri with keyt, our cnn affiliate there, said he was told that is the result of a bicyclist that the suspect hit. so what you're seeing there is not from a shot. it's not from the accident where this ended, and he hit a parked car. that was from the bicyclist that he hit, who hit the windshield. that bicyclist, by the way, has massive head trauma, is in the hospital, as well. so we can look at that, mike, and think, you know, had that not happened, perhaps he would have continued to move? >> he could have. and, also, if not confronted by law enforcement the second time. you know, so again, we don't know -- we probably won't know the cause of death of him --

whether it was suicide or if the law enforcement killed him -- until the autopsy's done. but you look at that damage. it's called pedestrian-type damage, even though the person was on a bicycle. >> yeah. >> and i'm sure there's other damage to the car that we can't see. but still, you heard john palminteri from our affiliate keyt talking about the number of bicycles. >> yes. >> sure, you're going to see a lot of bicycles in a college town like that. especially there on the coast. and this guy for ten minutes, driving through the streets, just firing indiscriminately at people, and maybe targeting some people, we heard. maybe some females, engaging them in conversation before he shot them. just unbelievable. >> our reporter kyung lah is there, just arrived on the scene. you talked about the tape zigzagging through the streets, all these crime scenes. are the streets this morning abandoned? i know it's early there on the west coast, but considering all of the action that happened overnight, are there students, are there people there around? >> reporter: i've actually sort

of walked my way in to an ar area -- it's a little difficult to maneuver, but they are allowing traffic in and out, as well as some pedestrians. and i've gotten to what appears to be an apartment complex. one of the windows has been shot out, it appears. there are a number of bullet casings. and what is so frightening is you're asking about some of the students who are starting to wake up. it's 7:30 here in the morning on the west coast. and i can see windows are beginning to open up, and the people who are inside these apartments that can't be any older than 19, 20 years old. so, yeah, they're starting to wake up here. it is -- you know, it is a college town, and you can definitely see the faces of the people that are waking up. but very much a crime scene. and it is difficult to maneuver your way here. but this is something that police are going -- they're going try to keep this area -- a it appears, some of the

businesses open, because this is such a busy area for the college area. >> some of those businesses most likely needed by the college students. but what a sobering morning for them to wake up. obviously, they most obviously knew what happened last night. but, you know, when you go to bed when something awful has happened, and you wake up and you have to -- you have to reconcile that again, that's always tough. so we're certainly thinking about all those people there. listen, we're going to take a quick break here. but again, we are on top of this story out of california. seven people dead. seven injured. a shooting from a man who just drove a black bmw through these small streets of isla vista, in california, near u.c. santa barbara, and really terrorized those people for ten minutes. until he finally crashed his car and ended up dead himself. more for you in just a moment. >> all of a sudden, we hear, like, really five gunshots. originally, i thought it was fireworks or something, because

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town next to the santa barbara campus. seven dead, seven in hospitals. we spoke to a young man named robert johnson who works for the u.c. santa barbara newspaper, "the daily nexus," and he was standing there on a street corner. i asked him what he heard and what he saw. listen. >> i was standing on a street corner. i had heard, i guess, what sounded -- i now know to be gunshots, but at that time i thought maybe they were fireworks or firecrackers going off, which isn't an uncommon occurrence here. and then, i was standing on the street corner, and this black bmw turns through the intersection and goes down the street away from me. and about maybe two seconds later i heard a pop. at first, i remember looking at the car and thinking it had backfired, which i remember thinking was strange, because it was such a new car, and it happened again. and by this time, it had reac d reached -- he was right outside

a restaurant-convenience store, a deli mart, and maybe there maybe a group of six, seven, eight people eating out in front of it, and he stopped in front of it and fired upon the group. >> robert, did he -- did it seem to be targeting anybody, or did it just seem very random, the shooting? >> it all happened very quickly, but i think that this just happened to be the largest group on the street. >> so you say he was just aiming for the group there? >> yes. i think it was just target, because it was the largest group on -- in the area. >> what was the response from the crowds there? i mean, was there screaming? did they start running? what did you see and hear from the people who were standing on the corner? >> i saw the people that were fired upon immediately they all jumped up, and many tried to run into the building -- let's see,

i don't recall hearing any screaming, and it was at that point where i turned and ran in the opposite direction. >> you know, mike brooks, hln law enforcement analyst, when he says that he didn't hear any screaming, i think, from speaking with him and speaking with daniel and john palminteri, keyt, on the phone, i think people were just shocked it was happening there. >> right. >> and this person was just driving slowly through this community. >> and thought maybe it was firecrackers to begin with. and that's why, you know, everybody says it took a long time. but people -- when something happens like that, you're not expecting it to happen in this community. and it takes time for them to react. when they finally see some people running, see a little bit of panic, then they realize, whoa, we are in danger. and that's -- in the whole law enforcement, you know, they heard the shots. you had some sheriff's deputies who were on foot patrol. they started running towards it. that's when they started finding victims and started to aid the victims. and then, you heard more calls coming in, and they heard more

shots. and then they realized exactly what they were dealing with then. >> and you realize how hard this is for people who went there. i've got a tweet here from marco on the web who tweeted me and said, i went to ucsb 15 years ago, never imagined something like this, so unbelievably sad. so when we talk about what these kids are waking up to, they're just trying to reconcile what happened last night, most likely, obviously, they know about it already. but they're also probably trying to figure out who was it? we don't know the names of the victims yet. so they can obviously let their first of kin know. we don't even know the names of the people in the hospital. >> true. >> we just know that they had -- people who died had very violent, public deaths. >> what we learned from the sheriff's office, though, is that none of the people who were shot were members of his department. so no deputies who were involved in at least two shoot-outs, i remember from his ticktock of what happened, six minutes after the initial call, there was a

shoot-out with deputies. of course, that final shoot-out with deputies. and at that time, that's when the suspect was shot. whether it was by deputy or whether it was a self-inflicted gun wound, we know the suspect is dead this morning. no sheriff's deputies injured in this. but again, seven dead. seven in hospitals. we'll continue our breaking news coverage of this shooting near the university of california, santa barbara campus, in a moment. unlimited cash back. let that phrase sit with you for a second. unlimited. as in, no limits on your hard-earned cash back. as in no more dealing with those rotating categories. the quicksilver card from capital one. unlimited 1.5% cash back on everything you purchase, every day. don't settle for anything less. i'll keep asking. what's in your wallet?

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breaking news this morning. seven people are dead and seven people injured after a shooting in the small town of isla vista. this is a small college town near u.c., santa barbara. i'm looking at twitter right now. there's a lot of people on there saying, you know, praying for everyone over at ucsb. another person asking, have you heard of alpha kai mega girls okay? everybody honing in on who may have been hurt. we're listening to sound we've just gotten in from one of the witnesses there. listen to what she had to say last night. >> and then, he, like, lifted up a little black pistol and -- and, like, i just thought it was an air soft gun or something, so i was, like, hey, what up?

and i turned around and i started walking the other way and he -- he shot, and i felt -- like, i felt the wind pass right by my face. >> wow. >> john palminteri with keyt, i know that your station talked to her, john. did she -- if i understand this correctly, did she actually engage at all with him? was she -- did he say something to her before she noticed the gun? >> it doesn't appear as if they had a conversation, but she clearly is one of the closest persons that could describe exactly what happened that was not a victim. the others, of course, were wounded and taken to the hospital, or part of the fatalities out there. this witness describes exactly what we've heard from other people, where it was slow enough they could see the vehicle, they could see the suspect, see the weapon, and as mike was pointing

out, absolutely stand there in shock. we did not hear a lot of screaming or stories like that, or people running in all directions, as much as they might have been just in shock at what they saw. and then, others immediately, heroically, coming to rescue those who were wounded or hurt and trying to assist law enforcement. but this particular eyewitness, as you can tell, is welled up with emotion, as many people are to start the day in isla vista, california, where they come back and see these scenes that are now cordoned off with yellow tape, and maybe even some of the victims still out there. because these investigations take so long to do it right. they've got to do it exactly and precisely right every step of the way this morning. >> hey, john, the spokesperson for the santa barbara county sheriff's office talked about this written and video evidence suggesting this was a premeditated mass murder, that the sheriff's office has obtained. did they clarify, was that something they were given or

something they found as part of their investigation? >> well, i was at the press briefing about 2:00 a.m. this morning, in the dark of the night, and this was widely distributed to people in the community. the isla vista community. as 20,000, mainly college students, and when something is on social media and somebody gets wind of it, it just goes like wildfire. we had it in the briefing room, as well. but, you know, at this point, nobody wants to jump the gun on what this is or who this person is. that's why the identification hasn't been clearly released. and they're taking very careful steps here not to do that, even though the sheriff did openly reference that that video that's out on youtube, and that statement, was something that was part of the, you know, highest level of the investigation. so it's they know about it. i had it. we all were watching it. it was not verified. >> hmm. >> and until it is, we're not going to go much further on that. >> absolutely. >> we know a lot of people are

looking at it, not only california authorities, but atf is involved, fbi is involved. somebody from the fbi flying out there today. mike, our law enforcement analyst, mike brooks with us now. how does that work, when you have multiple jurisdictions here and agencies, what is the hierarchy? >> the santa barbara county sheriff's office, they'll be the lead agency in this investigation. you know, atf, they'll come in and try to find out the history of that gun, and where was it bought, who bought it, those kinds of things. the fbi will most likely be assisting them, also, with the crime scene. their evidence response team experts will come out, because in that area, there are also a number of different task forces -- >> yeah, i'd be real careful with that last answer to stay with -- >> okay, we still have john on air, actually, if we could -- okay, go ahead. >> no, a number of different task forces in that area that include local, state, and federal agencies. so they're all involved in this investigation. >> yeah. and again, i want people to know this is not something that is kind of cordoned off to one small area. we've got, according to the

sheriff there, nine crime scenes. >> nine. >> and this will have to, not just take the atf and the fbi, but neighboring communities, as well. we know that there are 20,000 students potentially there. what do you do with all these people? they've got to get home. >> we heard from kyung lah, who just got to the scene, they're allowing some traffic, and some of the stores are open. we also heard it's pretty tight there, and that these streets will be closed down. i would say at least for today. you know, as john palminteri said, some of the victims are probably still on the scene while they go ahead and process the nine separate crime scenes over a number-of-block area. >> all right. again, if you're just joining us, as we talk about the nine crime scenes, seven people are dead this morning and seven others in the hospital, hopefully recovering. we understand there is at least one bicyclist who was hit with this car and has massive head trauma. he hit the windshield of the car. and that may be, actually -- it

shattered the windshield, as you can see it there. that may be the very moment, the incident that stopped this from going even further and claiming more lives. but listen, that's going to do it for us today. we'll pass it over to fred here in a moment. >> yeah, keep it right here. we'll have more on the california shooting in the next hour of the "cnn newsroom." we'll pass it on to fredricka whitfield, up after the break. huh, 15 minutes could save you 15% or more on car insurance. everybody knows that. well, did you know that game show hosts should only host game shows? samantha, do you take kevin as your lawfully wedded husband... or would you rather have a new caaaaaar!!!! say hello to the season's hottest convertible... ohhh....and say goodbye to samantha. [ male announcer ] geico. 15 minutes could save you 15% or more.

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hello, everyone. i'm fredricka whitfield. welcome to the "cnn newsroom." breaking news out of southern california. a gunman drives through a college town opening fire. there are multiple deaths and injuries. we have new information on this horrifying shooting spree. the suspect and the possible motive this hour. it is a shocking act of violence in santa barbara county, california. it happened last night in isla vista, a college town north of los angeles, near the university of california, santa barbara. police say a gunman opened fire as he drove through several

neighborhoods. seven people, including the gunman, are dead. seven others are wounded. police gave a news conference earlier this morning detailing what happened after police caught up with the gunman last night. >> the suspect engaged a group of responding deputies with gunfire. the deputies returned fire, and the suspect fled in his vehicle. seconds later, the suspect was again spotted by another deputy, another exchange of gunfire occurred at that time. the suspect fled down del playa, and eventually crashed into a parked vehicle. the deputies approached the crashed vehicle and determined that the suspect within that vehicle was dead from an apparent gunshot wound to the head. >> it is just past 8:00 a.m.

this morning now in california. our kyung lah is on the way to the scene -- actually, she's joining us by phone now. kyung, what are police saying at this juncture, the suspect's motive? >> reporter: we don't quite know what they're honing in on, but they are looking at the video evidence and some writing online that appears to show that this may have been premeditated. that's the extent of what the sheriff's department is telling us publicly. i have actually, fredricka, just arrived here. i'm standing at what i believe is the starting point of all of this. i'm about two blocks from where the initial 911 call came out. this is an apartment building. one of the windows has been shot out. we counted some 12 -- 12 casings at this juncture. there's a pizza place right at the corner. this looks like a corner where there would be on a 9:30, friday night, an area packed with college kids.

and then, as we walk around here, you can see that there's a definite path. there is police tape winding through all of the streets here in this college area. it looks like that this -- that this bmw made a distinct path, going through some of the apartment buildings where there might have been students, firing again, and another scene, another block away another scene. and you can see bullet casings all through this entire area just dotting the ground. this is a very, very large area that the sheriff's deputies, the police, it looks like a number of agencies are here, collecting all of the bullet casings, talking to people. again, this is 8:00 a.m. we can just see some people opening up their apartment windows, poking their heads through. some of the kids, i can see, are wearing their pajamas. and i call them kids, because if you look at their faces, they can't be more than 19, 20, 21 years old. very definitely the heart of a college area. and that is -- the other thing i

noticed, fredricka, they look extremely shocked. this has certainly -- it's something they never could have expected. fredricka? >> and then, kyung, you talk about bullet casings still on the ground, police officers still in the area collecting evidence. do you see that they're also talking to a number of the young people who are now emerging, asking them what they saw last night, what they experienced, anything like that taking place still? >> reporter: we're not seeing them actively talking to people, but there's a lot of confusion, because what we can hear over and over again is, "hey, can i get out of here? hey, can i get out of here?" these are kids who are waking up perhaps -- you know, last night they stayed in their apartments, and now they're trying to get out. but there's police tape everywhere. i heard one officer yell at a resident saying she's just going to have to stay inside, because it will take several, several hours. >> and then, you know, a lot of the shopkeepers in that area -- while you mentioned the police tape is everywhere, clearly a lot of shops, early morning

cafes that would ordinarily be open, none of that business taking place. essentially this town, for business, is shut down during this investigation, right? >> reporter: well, you know, there's -- there looks like what police are trying to do is allow some of these businesses to stay open. for example, one of the convenience stores, they're allowing people to get to that for water, and it looks like that business is open. so they're trying to keep some of these businesses open. so i think they're trying to balance both things. but, i mean, i counted just in this one area, where they have roped off at least five different crime scenes -- i only have to walk one block. you know, i think -- it looks like they're trying to cordon off each specific block and keep the businesses open. >> okay. kyung lah, thank you so much. we'll check back in with you in santa barbara county. again, the investigation still in its infancy. the shooting taking place last night, shocking an entire

community. of course, seven people, as we understand from police authorities this morning, are dead. seven others still being hospitalized. there were many witnesses to these shootings taking place last night. you heard kyung say she sees five different crime scenes. in all, we understand, there are nine different crime scenes. well, apparently one of the eyewitnesses to what unfolded last night simply broke down as she described that terrifying scene. listen. >> -- and then, he, like, lifted up a little black pistol. and um -- and, like -- and, like, i thought it was an airsoft gun or something, so i was, like, hey -- hey, what up? and i turned around, and i started walking the other way.

he shot, and i felt like -- i just felt, like, the wind pass right by my face. >> all right. you're listening there to that young girl. she came very close to that gunman last night, and still shaken up as she describes exactly what happened, what she saw, what unfolded right before her eyes there in this college community. we are following every angle of this investigation in these now very early stages of the investigation. justice correspondent evan perez has been digging into the details from washington, checking with your sources on the other coast. so, evan, what is the latest on the investigation? how do they go about -- since there are possibly nine different crime scenes here, so many victims involved? >> that's right, fred. this is going to be several days of trying to log the crime scenes. you said nine crime scenes right there, so they'll have to gather evidence from all of those places. now, the sheriff's office has said that among the things they're looking at is a video that they believe may be tied to

this, the possible suspect that has been identified. we are not identifying that suspect yet, because we obviously are waiting for the police to definitively say, this is the person they believe that did this. but one of the things that's happening right now is the atf is on the scene to try to help trace the handgun recovered. the sheriff's office said they're also using the crime lab -- the california state department of justice crime lab is the one that's going to be assisting. the fbi has offered some assistance, as well. we don't know what exactly they're going to be doing, if their resources are needed. but obviously, federal law enforcement has a lot of experience with these types of shootings. sadly, they've become all too common. and one of the things they do is they look at all of the social media. they go through the computer of the suspect, for instance. they talk to family members. they talk to friends, to see if there's anything the suspect might have indicated in the last

few days of any intention to do this. the sheriff's office said at a press conference overnight that they believe there was premeditation based on some of the evidence they're looking at, including stuff that the suspect -- the possible suspect may have left behind, written, and, of course, this video, fred. >> and are investigators saying anything more about the written notes to indicate why they are convinced this was premeditation? >> right, they haven't said just yet. obviously, it's going to take some time. this happened overnight. and one of the first things they're trying to do is talk to the family members of the suspect, any friends, to try to see -- you know, make sure they gather anything and secure it. and this is something that's going to take a few days to figure out. obviously, the suspect is dead. so now the job of doing this is just simply to try to put it together and figure out what may have led him to do this. obviously, these things are never really easily explained, you know, after the fact.

but we can simply go back and look at everything that the suspect left behind. and in this case, it does appear that the suspect left behind a lot of -- a lot of things to try to explain what exactly was on his mind, fred. >> all right, evan perez, thanks so much. we'll check back with you as you get more information. meantime, coming up, as authorities are trying to piece together what happened, we'll be asking a former police detective about what might happen next in the investigation. what are all of the things that investigators are trying to uncover as they piece all of this together? captain: this is a tip. bellman: thanks, captain obvious. captain: and here's a tip. when you save money on hotel rooms, it's just like saving money on anything else that costs money. like shoes, textiles, foreign investments, spatulas, bounty hunters, javelins... tthe will..., mobilizing to take on the world? you don't know "aarp." aarp and its foundation are taking on hunger

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premeditated mass murder in santa barbara county. let's bring in hln law enforcement analyst and former d.c. police detective mike brooks. so, you know, we have this situation here where the suspect is dead. >> right. >> again, for those just joining us, a shooting taking place last night outside the university of california, santa barbara county, in isla vista, which is a college town. so now, as investigators try to figure out what happened, it's the motive that they are in large part investigating right now since the suspect is dead? is that how it goes? >> they're looking for a motive, and most likely they know by now what the motive is, i think. but there also are nine separate crime scenes, fred, that they're processing as we speak. you heard evan perez, our cnn justice correspondent, talking about the federal assets that are there, the california crime lab. when you have nine crime scenes throughout a number of different neighborhoods, a number of blocks, that area will be shut down for quite sometime. there's no hurry.

you know, so they want to make sure they process the crime scene extremely well, because still, even though he's dead, they still have to go about their investigation. >> and one of the things they are looking for -- we're talking about nine locations, because as we understand it, according to the sheriff who said in a press conference that this person was in their vehicle, and they went from various locations, unloading this handgun -- >> right. >> -- what's believed to be one handgun at this point, unloading this handgun in various locat n locations. unclear whether he was targeting somebody, or at random. what is the evidence they're looking for at these crime scenes to get the answers? >> as we heard the sheriff say, videotaped evidence. you also had the statements from people who were there. did he engage? the possibility we're hearing is that he may have engaged with his victims -- >> right, yelling or talking -- >> yeah, did he get out of his car? as well, we see a number of different stores there with

four, five bullet holes in the windows. we hear from kyung lah at the apartment complex, bullet holes in the windows. shell casings. all of this will be processed. they'll put together a timeline, and then they'll be able to map out that whole entire crime scene, because you have one area but nine different crime scenes. >> we heard from our kyung lah, who is just arriving in that community, talking about the bullet casings she can see on the ground this morning right now, that police are still collecting. >> right. they don't know how many rounds he actually shot, and if he had a handgun, most likely he had to reload that handgun a number of times. and we do know he was engaged in a shoot-out with law enforcement at least twice, one six minutes into this -- into the whole incident, six minutes after they received the call, 9:27 p.m. and then, one three minutes later when they found him dead of a gunshot wound to the head. they don't know if it was from the sheriff's deputies who engaged him in the gun battle or if it was self-inflicted. >> and is it clear whether this gunman used his vehicle as a

weapon, because we do understand that a bicyclist impacted the windshield. but is it clear whether that was intentional or that was an accident or -- >> we don't know. >> it doesn't matter? >> if you look at the picture of the bmw, and i call it pedestrian damage that we're seeing of that car, that -- apparently that person on that bicycle sustained some serious head trauma. but we also heard from a reporter with keyt that there is a lot of bicycle traffic. you know, it's a college town. >> yeah. >> and everybody rides their bikes, and this was a busy friday night on a, you know, memorial holiday weekend. >> right. and you mentioned the videotape that investigators are looking through as well as handwritten notes. >> right. >> what are they looking for? how are they going about verifying or trying to, you know, confirm whether there's a connection between that kind of potential evidence and this crime? >> well, sheriff bill brown, during the presser, said that they believe that this videotaped evidence is involving this -- this alleged gunman.

so they'll take a look at that. they take a look if there's anything inside of his vehicle, any kind of writings that he left, go back. i'm sure they've been to his house, probably there right now where he lives, doing a search of his computer, phones, talking to any friends and associates that he may have had, to try to find out what was going on in his head, you know, in the months, weeks, maybe years before all of this happened, up until what happened last night. >> all right. mike brooks, thanks so much. >> yes. >> we appreciate your perspective. >> sure. >> we know you'll be touching base with us again, we'll be reaching out to you again soon. again, 18 minutes after the hour, 8:00 a.m. in isla vista, where several witnesses to the shootings are just waking up this morning. some returning to the crime scenes, still in disbelief as to what took place last night. and many of these witnesses are college students. isla vista, a real college community outside of university of california, santa barbara. so how are many of these young pople -- any of the

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welcome back. we're following breaking news this morning. a deadly shooting spree taking place last night in southern california. police say a gunman drove through a college town near the

university of california, santa barbara, shooting and killing six people. the gunman also dead, but it's not clear if his was a self-inflicted wound, or not. authorities are still looking for a motive. they're looking for clues. they're trying to figure out what was in the mind of that gunman. also, this morning, many eyewitnesses and students who live in that community are just now waking up, just 23 minutes or so after 8:00 a.m., and many of them are still trying to piece together what exactly happened last night. jeff gardere is in our new york bureau. you know him as a clinical and forensic psychologist. so, you know, jeff, this is a shocking and traumatic experience for anyone, but especially for these college kids who are wrapping their semester there, you know, enjoying the holiday weekend, or at least getting ready to. what do they need this morning as they try to figure out, you know, how to move on, how to

process all that took place last night? >> well, first and foremost, they have to figure out what happened. you're right. they are traumatized. they are in shock. santa barbara is not a very large place. it's a very sunny community, as we know. the schools there are about not just education, but partying, having a good time, enjoying the sun. i think what they really need at this point is to get more information, be able to find out what was going on, what really happened, whether they're safe right now, whether they can walk the streets, whether they can go back to their campuses. so all of those things need to be stabilized, but most importantly, they need to talk about the experience, what it is they're going through right now, and they'll do that with one another, fredricka. >> hmm, and then i imagine a lot of parents, whose kids attend that school, they're all calling their kids who are still in that area right now, and maybe even some of the parents are

struggling with what to say to their kids, because they are in a state of shock, because they do need to express themselves. >> absolutely. and this is a form of debriefing that the parents will be doing with their children. a lot of social networking going on right now. people talking about that, and in many ways that's very, very healthy. but most importantly, the parents need to let these children know, or the guardians, that they are safe for now, from what we know. but more than anything, they have a place to go. they can come home. that they love them, they love them, and that's what any human being needs right now, to know they are loved and they are needed. >> of course, all of the questions going through people's minds, includes that of, who would do this? and why would something like this happen? we are still trying to learn more about the person responsible here. but if there is a profile, you know, jeff, if there is kind of a mindset, you know, what would

that be of someone who would go on a rampage like this, carry out a shooting spree, if there would be a likelihood there would always be premeditation, or if this is a moment of just someone snapping? >> well, from what we know of the profiles of other mass shooters, there is premeditat n premeditation. it's cold and calculating. this is something that an anger and a rage that has probably been building up over the last few years, few months, few weeks. something has triggered the timing of this. memorial day weekend. in the evening on a friday night when there are a lot of people out, to get as much carnage as possible. someone who probably sees themselves as a victim, who feels that they've been wronged, who feels isolated. and now that they have been such a small person in this society, this is their way of becoming a god, of being omnipotent, of

killing as many people as possible, and at the same time knowing that they're going to die, either suicide by cop, or self-inflicted wound. >> all right, fascinating. jeff gardere, thank you, we always appreciate your insight, very helpful to those who need to hear those comforting words indeed this morning in santa barbara. coming up, we'll hear directly from the sheriff. >> this incident appears to be a mass murder situation. >> his deputies exchanged gunfire with the suspect to prevent the situation from getting even worse. all stations come over to mission a for a final go.

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all right. back to our breaking story. it's 11:30 on the east coast. 8:30 a.m. out west. and in santa barbara county, it's an especially sober morning following a shocking and deadly shooting spree last night. police say a gunman drove

through a college town near the university of california, santa barbara, shooting and killing six people. the gunman was also killed, but it's not clear yet if it was a self-inflicted wound, or not. earlier, the sheriff held a news conference to answer some of the questions. >> this incident appears to be a mass murder situation. the timeline, as we've been able to put it together thus far, is as follows -- at 9:27 p.m., the sheriff's dispatch center received calls of multiple gunshots being fired in the isla vista area. we had deputies in the area on foot who also heard a number of shots being fired. the deputies began responding in the direction of the gunshots, and immediately found several victims who were suffering from gunshot wounds. as they were performing first aid on those victims, they were

also receiving suspect information and a vehicle description. as this was occurring, additional shots were fired, and calls were received by the sheriff's dispatch from several areas in isla vista. during this initial stage, both the suspect and suspect vehicle descriptions were broadcast to those law enforcement personnel who were in the area. at 9:33 p.m., six minutes after the initial call was received, the suspect engaged a group of responding deputies with gunf e gunfire. the deputies returned fire, and the suspect fled in his vehicle. seconds later, the suspect was again spotted by another deputy. another exchange of gunfire occurred at that time. the suspect fled down del playa

and eventually crashed into a parked vehicle. the deputies approached the crashed vehicle and determined that the suspect within that vehicle was dead from an apparent gunshot wound to the head. a handgun was recovered from within that vehicle. although we have preliminarily identified the suspect, we are not release the suspect's name until a positive identification can be made. currently, the sheriff's office is not looking for any additional suspects. we believe the suspect acted alone. this is still a very active investigation, and as you can imagine, a very chaotic series of crime scenes. it is still in the very early phases of the investigation. we've identified nine separate crime scenes within the area and

multiple victims who were either shot or injured as a result of -- apparently, as a result of the suspect's actions. seven victims are in area hospitals being treated for gunshot wounds or for traumatic injuries. at least one of those victims has undergone surgery for life-threatening injuries. we currently have seven confirmed dead. that includes the suspect. and six victims. we are in the process of identifying those victims and notifying their next of kin. we have obtained and we are currently analyzing both written and videotaped evidence that suggests that this atrocity was a premeditated mass murder. the sheriff's office is

currently interviewing multiple witnesses to these crimes, and we are asking for the public's assistance. if there's anyone who has not yet been spoken to by law enforcement authorities, we would ask if you have information about this crime, or series of crimes, if you would contact the santa barbara county sheriff's office tip line at 805-681-4171. and i would like to acknowledge and thank those allied agencies who are currently assisting us in this investigation, in addition to patrol and investigative personnel from the santa barbara county sheriff's office. we are being assisted by the uc-santa barbara police department, by the california highway patrol, by the santa barbara police department, by the district attorney investigators, by the california

state parks law enforcement personnel, and by criminalists from the department of justice crime lab. i know that this information that i'm giving you at this point is somewhat preliminary. we are going to work diligently to get you more information in detail, including the identity of the suspect and victims. the next press conference is going to be scheduled for 4:00 p.m. today at a location to be determined. we will notify you through our regular processes of where that press conference will be held. two things that i just want to say in closing. the first is, i want to commend the deputy sheriffs who engage ed very resolutely who engaged

in this accident. there's no question in my mind that their resolute actions and valor in doing so may have prevented further loss of life and injury. i also want to let the families of the victims know that our hearts go out to them at this tragic time, and we will be doing all that we can in the near future to try to identify the actual circumstances, the complete background information, and so forth about this horrific series of events that occurred this evening. >> all right, again, that press conference taking place earlier. you heard the sheriff say another one is scheduled for later on, at 4:00 today. and you also heard the sheriff there call it a premeditated mass murder. it's an investigation now involving local and federal authorities. could any critical warning signs have been missed? our legal guys weigh in, next. [male vo] inside this bag exists

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i'm joined now by our legal guys, avery friedman, civil rights attorney in cleveland. good to see you, gentlemen. so, avery, you know, you first. the sheriff is calling this a premeditated mass shooting. so so many things are being examined like when and where the suspect may have gotten this gun. what is in these writings he left, and possibly this video? this is now more of a search for motive. that's the concentrated effort? >> exactly right. if i'm the district attorney, fredricka, i'm working with my officers. i'm working with the allied agencies. i'm looking at video. i'm looking at audio. i'm looking at notes. i'm talking to witnesses. and i think there's a fairly clear sense of who the suspect is. so you need to connect what he has said, or what she has said, what he did, his behavior, and some sign that this was indeed premeditated, it was intentional. and the whole idea was to do

exactly what happened in this extraordinary college town. fredricka, there are 20,000 kids there. it was a friday night after graduation. so for those disturbed people, this is exactly where they want to be, to create the most damage they possibly can. >> and, richard, the sheriff says it does appear as though he acted alone. it's not that, you know, there's a concentrated effort to find anyone else that may have been complicit. but investigators do want to know if there were any missed signs. what will they be looking for in order to determine whether there were some red flags earlier? >> that's a great question, fred. you know, in this day and age of social media and the different attempts to get online and publish your life history and what's going on with your life, they're going to examine all of his accounts he may have had in the various different forms of social media. they're going to pull down his cell phone records, his text messages, his e-mails -- >> sure. >> -- to see if he's given any hints or signs to anyone that he's on the verge of going on

this kind of crime spree. that's what they're going to be investigating right now, to see if there's anything they could have done to prevent something like this. and sadly -- >> right. >> -- the answer in the end will probably be no, fred. >> and so, avery, this is not an issue or a case in which evidence is collected because they're preparing for what may unfold in the courtroom. >> right. >> so the energy, you know, might be a little bit different. we heard mike brooks say earlier there is less urgency or concentrated effort to hurry up, because they're not looking for a suspect. they can take their time in this kind of investigation now, because they believe the suspect -- the only suspect, you know, here, is dead. how does all of this change the investigation? >> well, there's no -- there's no duty at this point to expedite. if we looked at crimes where there were people still out there, you could lose witnesses. here, we think we know who the suspect is. there's -- and i think what the evidence is going to be,

fredricka, is you're going to see substantial disaffectation here. we're going to see an individual in isolation, in this college environment, being rejected perhaps by others, and i think that's what we're going to see. we've seen it in colorado. we've seen it in connecticut. we've seen it here in ohio. the sorrow that's been created is unspeakable, incomprehensible. that's exactly what the suspect wanted to do here. >> and then, richard, you see this as potentially reopening up dialogue, about gun responsibility or -- >> yeah. >> -- or one's emotions and how that might, you know, provoke something like this? >> it's the public discussion. you know, gun control against mental health treatment. it's going to rise again. we'll be talking about it. i don't believe, fred, this guy had a licensed handgun. i think he had multiple handguns with him to fire off that many shots with a semiautomatic gun that, you know, you don't pull the trigger and it shoots a

stream of bullets. you have to continue to pull it -- one, two, three, four. he had nine crime scenes. he had multiple shoot-outs with law enforcement. >> right. >> he had to change the clips on this. i think they may end up finding more than one handgun, and it's just an unbelievable tragedy to wake up on a saturday morning and see this. it's unbelievable. >> right. >> it is unbelievable. and we are, of course, talking about a, you know, a college community and on a holiday weekend. we heard jeff gardere talking earlier about when someone carries out something like this, in his evaluation, it is someone who wants to make, you know, an imprint, wants to leave behind almost like a legacy, to go to a very populated area -- >> yeah. >> -- to be disruptive in what you call it kind of a scene, and make a name for one self. avery, you agree with that kind of assessment? >> i do. and i think what is so disheartening here, it would be a physical impossibility, fredricka, for someone not to

know about that disaffectation, not to know about the isolation and the anger. will the evidence establish that video or audio, or whatever else is out there, has been out there for sometime? if i'm overseeing the investigation, i want to make sure that my officers are looking at those things, talking to witnesses, to make sure we understand how long the suspect has been acting like this, and whether or not this was likely to crescendo in exactly what we saw on friday night. >> all right. >> fred, that's the problem. >> go ahead, richard. >> yeah, it's very hard to make that leap, to know that this person would take off on this crime spree, on this day. they may be depressed. >> that's true. >> they may be suffering. but to know someone is depressed and suffering, and then predict they would open fire in nine different crime scenes -- >> it depends on the evidence. right. >> richard, avery, thank you so much. always appreciate your insight. appreciate it. >> all right. the investigation into the deadly shootings is just the

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town near uc santa barbara, shooting and killing six people. john palminteri is a reporter with keyt, and he is following the story in isla vista. joining us by phone right now. john, how are investigators going about identifying the gunman who is dead? >> reporter: fredricka whitfield, they said in the press conference at 2:00 this morning when they gathered us together they had video and written evidence that was going to be directly linked to this mass fatality shooting in the isla vista community here in santa barbara, california, and what they're going to do now is be very careful about analyzing this and identifying who the shooter is and of course as we know, he was found dead in his car, either by a self inflicted wound or by this running gunbattle with sheriff's deputies from santa barbara county who engaged him in gunfire as he drove through the streets of isla vista. as they verify his

identification and do the background check they need to do, sometimes they hold back just a little longer while they get to the search warrant they need, electronically, search warrants for his residency and other residences, get computer documentation and anything that would connect them to the story line to find out what was in his head, what mental state he was in that he would do such a tragic horrific thing to this college community and everyone that was wounded or killed last night. >> there was clear familiarity with this enabled, and it seems like the location in which the unloading of the weapon was very deliberate, are we able to discern whether he was a student, with university of california santa barbara, or once a student? are investigators willing to say

anything about his relationship to this neighborhood or the people in this neighborhood? >> reporter: referencing that they are fairly certain they know who this is and there are many people in the college community there who have released a video, a youtube video that seemed to speak to this, and the sheriff, bill brown, said yes, that is clearly something we're looking at, indicated that's the highest priority person they're looking at. taking that without revealing, using caution as they're trying to do carefully on the front end, but that person looking deeper into that name, it appears he may have had some time spent in school here, that he may have had some issues that were unresolved to the point where he wanted to settle this his way last night and this is the way he did it. >> all right, john palminteri, thank you so much. again, infancy of the investigation. we understand the caution behind what is being revealed at this point about this gunman and the

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student newspaper at the university of california santa barbara talked with us. he is still very shaken. of course, he is happy to be alive after this gunman's car narrowly passed him moments before shots rang out. >> i was standing on a street corner. i had heard i guess what sounded -- i now know to be i street corner, and this black bmw turns through the intersection and goes down away from me, and maybe two seconds later i heard a pop. at first i remember looking at the car, thinking it backfired, which i thought was strange because it was such a new car, and it happened again. by this time it reached outside

of a restaurant convenience store, and there were maybe a group of six, seven, eight people eating in front of it, and it stopped in front of it and fired. >> robert, did it seem to be targeting anybody or did it just seem very random, the shooting? >> it all happened very quickly, but i think that this happened to be the largest group on the street. i saw the people that were fired upon immediately, they all jumped up. many tried to run into the building. i don't recall hearing any screaming. then it was at that point i turned and ran the opposite direction. >> you can hear in his voice very shaken up. robert johnson, with the daily nexus, the student newspaper at santa barbara talking to cnn

earlier today. we have more coming up on the shooting, it all starts now. hello again, i am fredricka whitfield. premeditated mass murder. that's what the sheriff is calling a deadly shooting spree in southern california. we have the latest on the horrifying scene as a gunman drove through a college town, opening fire. we are taking you to isla vista, california, the college town west of santa barbara where police say a gunman opened fire as he drove slowly through several neighborhoods last night. six people were killed, and seven others wounded. authorities say deputies exchanged fire with the suspect when they heard the shooting was taking place. before the gunman fled and

crashed into a parked car. investigators found the gunman dead with a gunshot wound to the head. it is unclear if he killed himself or was shot by deputies in that exchange of fire. one witness described a terrifying scene as the gunman opened fire. >> then he like lifted up like a little black pistol and i just saw it, and i was like hey, and i turned around, started walking the other way. he shot and i felt a wind pass right by my face. >> right now, it is just past 9:00 a.m. in the morning there in california. some people are still in shock trying to figure out what happened last night and how all the pieces are going to be put

together. what more is being said at this stage of the investigation. earlier you said there are still bullet casings all over the place? >> reporter: and still very much an active crime scene. this is the first scene. you can see there's a police vehicle here. what we have seen are a number of bullet casings, about 12 that we came up and saw. officers picking them up. i want you to take a look over there. this is the first floor of an apartment building, a commercial building. you see that window has been shot up. if you scan down the apartment building, this is the path the bmw took, driving straight down this road, then circling this college campus area. this is an area not officially with the college campus, it is an area where a lot of students live. we can see them opening their

windows, looking out here, just starting to wake up. what they're describing to us, people that have come out and talked to us, are describing many people on the street, not as packed as a normal friday night because of memorial weekend, but a frightening scene where many of them saw the bullets and saw this driver. here is what one witness told us. >> i was walking right down here, walked down the street. i was walking over to chase bank. then the car passed right by me and my friend, barely nipped her and hit the guy right behind us, literally from the street to the sidewalk. looked to see if he was okay, after that, saw the car run-down here, he was just firing up shots. we just ran inside the nearest restaurant and waited until it calmed down. it was really hectic. a lot of people were just running. i've never seen that before ever. we were walking down the street and heard sounded like

fireworks, didn't sound like a gunshot honestly, that's why i was just like what are people doing. people get stupid out here sometimes. i thought it was fireworks or something. by the time we got across the street, the actual gunshots, we heard him come right down here. >> reporter: back live in isla vista, that's just one witness. we heard the story multiple times from various people here. this is a sleepy part of town where they're just waking up. they had a terrifying night, fred reek a there are nine crime skiens. this is just one. we were able to walk up and down the street. >> is there any way of calculating the distance of the nine shooting locations? is it all in a matter of, you know, a half mile or a mile distance? just trying to kind of paint the picture of how the vehicle traversed and unloaded along the

way. >> reporter: let's walk this way. we're going to step down onto the street. this is one. look over that way. that's crime scene number two, where you see the officer there, then you can turn left, there's another crime scene, beyond him, another crime scene. so it is every single block they cordoned off the area where they found bullet casings or where people were hit. the area where you see the officer, there was someone who was shot there. we understand from law enforcement they're in the process of putting all of this together. a very large area, even though this is a dense, small area, a large area that they have to comb over because the shooter was going up and down the street. >> quickly, one after the next. then we reported that seven people were in the hospital, we heard that from the sheriff. is that still the case? what do we know about how they are doing? >> reporter: we have not gotten any sort of identification, the

people inside the hospital. they're in the process now of trying to reach some of the family members. we also haven't been told the names or identities of the seven killed. we understand there are seven still in the hospital in varying conditions. we're hoping to learn more as the day progresses. >> kyung lah, thanks so much. we are following every angle of this story. again, the investigation in its early stages now. justice correspondent evan perez has details from washington, checking with his sources there. evan, what are authorities telling you and what is the explanation as to why federal authorities are involved in this very local investigation? >> well, fred, you know sadly the federal law enforcement has a lot of experience with these types of scenes all over the country. this is a relatively small police department in santa barbara and this is the

university community, so it is something that the federal authorities could probably help a lot with. we're told the atf is on the scene to help trace the handgun that was found and recovered at the scene. they'll be trying to figure out where the gun was purchased, when it was purchased, and perhaps you know that might perhaps give a little explanation of how long this gunman was considering this rampage. we do know that the california state crime lab is going to be helping, going through some of the evidence, the scene that kyung lah showed us is very big, a lot of shell casings that the police are going to have to go through. there's at least two scenes in which the gunman was exchanging gunfire with the sheriff's office and police officers who were responding to the scene. so what they're going to have to do is catalog every single one of those shell casings to see

whether it was the gunman or whether it was the police that was responding to the scene, fred. >> okay. all right. still lots to sort through. then, evan, are federal authorities also involved in going through the writings as well as the video that may have been produced by this gunman? >> well, that's probably another thing that the federal law enforcement can help with. they have a lot of experience going through obviously the computer, the computers of the suspect. we do know that the sheriff's office says he left behind some writings and there's a video in particular that they're interested in that may explain premeditation of this, what exactly the intent was of the suspect, and the sheriff's office described a little of that overnight in this press conference. we're going to hear a lot more of that later today, fred. >> thanks so much, evan perez

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very concentrated, tight knit area, not like he traveled miles, he traveled just a few feet from the next location, when he opened up. that explains this incredibly quick police response time, right? >> right. put it in perspective now. imagine these streets at 9:27 on a friday night, a holiday weekend night, filled with pedestrians, filled with people out getting pizza. you see some of the bicycles there, one bicyclist was struck and seriously injured. but think about it. nine crime scenes. you see santa barbara sheriff's investigators out there now that the sun is up, going around, finding different shell casings, because you have nine crime scenes, at least two of them involved an officer involved shooting where officers exchanged gunfire with the gunman. one of them was about six minutes after the initial call to 911 came in. >> in terms of response. >> right. >> so people heard the shooting, heard the gunfire, called

police, maybe even some of the foot patrol heard it. >> they heard it, yeah. >> and then engaged right away. >> exactly. six minutes from the time they called it in, 9:27, some officers, sheriff's deputies on foot heard shots, ran toward the sound of gunfire, they found some victims, started to give them aid, then heard other shots, and some deputies that were in cars engaged the suspect, six minutes after the first initial call came in. but think about it. he is driving around, he is mobile. so they engage him there. he sped away. and about three minutes later, some more deputies engaged him, got into another gunbattle. that's when they found him dead, when they approached the car, found him dead. we don't know if it was self inflicted to the head or from sheriff's deputies. >> okay. and of course we know investigators are looking at this video, looking at writings that may have been left behind by this gunman, but as they try to discern the motive, what you can try and, you know, figure

out here is that even if he was targeting a specific person or persons. >> right. >> one of the objectives may have been to take out a number of people because this is a concentrated, dense area. is that something which investigators would extrapolate here? >> absolutely. from this video evidence they're talking about, a video called retribution, by this young man, and if you listen to it and you see exactly what he's talking about, investigators are now going to go back, if in fact that is him, which they believe i think it is, they're going to go back. okay. how long was he thinking about doing this? how did he get that gun? did he show any signs or symptoms that this was going to happen with his friends, relatives, these kind of things. it is going to help investigators piece together what was going on inside his head leading up to the shooting. >> why this location. mike brooks, thank you very much. again this investigation in its infancy, even though we're

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welcome back. we are following breaking news out of southern california. police say a gunman went on a shooting spree near the campus of uc santa barbara, killing six people, and wounding seven others. one of the students in that area is robert johnson. he was there, he was an eyewitness to the shooting, he also happens to work for the university of california santa barbara student newspaper, the daily nexus. so robert, tell me where you were in relation to all of this activity last night? >> i was standing on the corner of two of the streets in the area. then first i heard some popping sounds in the distance and i

originally thought it was justifier works or firecrackers. soon after, a bmw passed the intersection where i was, and continued down the street, heading away from me. then i heard a popping sound that sounded like came from the car. i remember thinking it sounded like it backfired, and i remember thinking that was strange, it was a brand new car. then there was a second popping sound. by that point it had reached -- it was right outside of a convenience store, deli, looked like there were 8 to 10 people outside in front of it. then at that point someone inside the car started firing on that crowd there. >> and so robert, when you saw this vehicle, you described the black bmw going by and figured out this is where the sound was coming from, was it traveling

fast, was it going slow? do you recall? >> it seemed to be going slower than you normally would go on these streets here. i mean, they are traffic with bikers and pedestrians. most people don't drive fast around here, but seemed to be going markedly slower. >> were people scattering, once there was a realization this is gunfire and not what could be usual fireworks in the neighborhood, was there panic? >> i saw him fire upon that group in front of the store, and then they all after being fired upon jumped up, tried to get inside the store, at which point i turned around, started running the other way. >> this is a holiday weekend, and i understand some students are still at the school, you know, in session, haven't gone away for the weekend or even home. was it particularly less crowded

in this area compared to most other weekends or quite the opposite? >> it seems like it was less busy than it normally is on friday night, yes. >> and then once people realized this is a shooting, you described how some people responded, was it an issue of even some people, some students, some pedestrians trying to help or come to the aid of those who have been hit? >> i can't answer that question because as i said earlier, as soon as i realized what was going on, i was with my friend at the time, and we went into his apartment and from there we couldn't really get a good view of the street. >> robert, now this morning, many hours after what took place last night, what are you feeling like this morning? >> i've actually been awake for the last 25 or so hours, i'm

just really tired now. i guess i was actually at the press conference that the sheriff's office held, and there's still lots much questions to be answered. they haven't released any names yet. so i think everyone is just confused about what happened and everyone just wants answers. >> the confusion, very understandable. robert johnson, thank you so much. glad you're on the rebound this morning, but of course i know a lot of people are very much shaken up. appreciate your time. >> thank you. the investigation into this tragedy in isla vista is really just at the beginning stages, and in just a minute, a former atf agent that headed up the scene at the columbine investigation talks to us about what's next after a shooting spree of this magnitude.

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back now to our breaking news. a deadly shooting spree in california. the sheriff says a gunman drove through a college town near the university of california santa barbara, shooting and killing six people. the suspect was also killed but it is not clear if it was a self inflicted wound. earlier one eyewitness, daniel slovinsky talked about what he saw. >> i thought it was fireworks, like other people. contrary to what you expect, there wasn't a lot of chaos immediately. didn't hear screaming. a few people were running, most people didn't know why. it wasn't really until police started yelling at people to get inside that we realized something big went down. even then, people didn't really know what. i think robert is really right when he says there's a lot of confusion rather than panic.

i didn't even -- sorry, go ahead. >> no, go ahead. >> i didn't really figure out exactly what happened until i started talking with some of the eyewitnesses myself, such as robert. >> so you were talking to robert. what were you saying and what did you see i guess once things started to clear up and you were getting a picture of maybe how many people had been shot or how expansive the crime scene is? >> well, yeah, the first thing we were trying to figure out is how many people were injured and, you know, what exactly was going on with this suspect. and it seemed at the time that there were only maybe four at max possible deaths, so it was a huge shock to us when the police announced there were seven. >> and that seven, including the gunman. again, unclear if it was a self

inflicted gunshot wound to the head. so the investigation is in the beginning stages. authorities are examining nine crime scenes, which extends a matter of blocks in that little college town. want to talk about where things go from here. bring in rich mariano, retired assistant director with the atf, served as on scene commander for the deadly massacre at columbine high school years ago in colorado. rich, give us an idea of the steps and how this is all broken up in this investigation because you've got these nine crime scenes, likely you also have investigators going to the residence or last place of residence of this gunman, reaching out to the parents as we understand that he is a young man. give us an idea how that prioritizes the investigation. >> right now, daylight tells a whole new story. in the several hours that have taken place, gives investigators

opportunity to slow down the pace, to examine the ballistic evidence and to also conduct a thorough, very comprehensive investigation to everything this offender was involved in. specifically looking at like i said, the ballistic evidence where shots were fired from. how many magazines did he carry with the semi automatic weapon. to discuss and have conversations with his friends, relatives, interview witnesses, they all tell a story. the social network, search of the car, belongings. local video from atm machines, convenience stores, restaurants, bars. it is almost a story within itself that each one of these pieces contains a different frame to tell the story from the perspective of what actually happened. >> and in large part, sorry, to figure out the motive primarily or is it also to try to confirm or make sure that there aren't other people that may have been

complicit involved with him? >> yeah, absolutely. want to look at the social media aspect and look at the video to see if there's anybody with him on the street, anybody in the car, some witnesses said two people were in there, others can't confirm if it was one or two. it is also to corroborate whatever they have. there's some mention by the sheriff's office they have some admissions from the individual. this will corroborate, put together a good investigation. i think they're on the right path bringing in the government and subject matter experts to the taken. >> is the collective evidence different when you have a suspect alive versus one that is dead? >> not much, a standard procedure we follow as good investigators is to get to the truth. we're not looking to get anywhere but to the truth of what happened and tell the story, whether to the jury or to the american public. >> and then you mentioned reaching out to friends, family members, et cetera, returning to

the place of residence. what would investigators be looking for when returning to the place of residence? >> well, specifically in columbine, we looked at a manifesto written by the two offenders. what tells the bigger picture is where i'm going with this. who else knew about this individual. who else was part of this planning. who else may have assisted getting him the gun, getting him the ammunition. who else took part in this terrible deadly act. it's going to give us more information how long the plot has been brewing, whether in the last 12 to 14 hours, a week and a half or more time. >> there could potentially be prosecution if there were people or persons who knew something, right? >> absolutely. if someone straw purchased this gun for him with the knowledge and intent he was going to use it for a shooting, they will be prosecuted. any individual that knew this was going to take place, that aided, abetted, assists should be prosecuted or charged.

may be several people that took part in this thing. he was kidding, he was joking, didn't bring it to the attention of authorities can go to jail a long, long time. >> rich, thank you for your time. thank you so much. every detail is critical now in the investigation. but the big question remains, why did this gunman do this? our legal guys will be weighing in on the latest after this. we know we're not the center of your life, but we'll do our best to help you connect to what is.

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california is in shock this morning, some 12 hours now after a gunman opened fire killing six people. the attack was premeditated. they're looking at video and evidence to determine the motive. our legal guys are back, avery freedman, civil rights attorney, law professor in cleveland, richard herman, law professor and criminal attorney joining us from las vegas. richard, you first, we spoke with a former atf former assistant director and he was talking about even though this suspect is dead, investigators really have to figure out who knew what, when, if anything, and along the lines of that, there could possibly be proksz if it turns out there were people that were complicit, even though authorities are authorities are saying it looks like the gunman acted alone.

how much energy is being put into that at this stage of the investigation in your view? >> i think a lot of energy is put into how this individual obtained the weapon or weapons that he used in this crime spree. that's the critical inquiry. did someone provide him with that gun, or as the caller said, was there a straw purchase to get the gun. how deattain a high caliber semi automatic handgun like this. he either had a massive extended clip on it, i don't know how he changed that and got that many shots off. there may be multiple handguns here used. again, the emphasis is how did he get this handgun. that's the inquiry now. >> because, avery, we learned from our reporter on the ground kyung lah and sources like evan perez, nine crime scenes within

blocks of each other. >> within four blocks. >> right. the changing of the magazine, having more than one handgun, something to that degree, all of that being looked at thoroughly, avery? >> you know, honestly, if people want to get guns, they're going to get guns. and in california they've got tough gun laws. i think it is a very legitimate issue to explore. frankly, this is the same story again, on the assumption we know who the suspect is, fredricka, we're dealing with testosterone fueled rage based on irrash naelt, as if society owes this individual something. the question is i'm mad, i'm going to make everybody pay for it. how he got that gun, because there's not a prosecution of the suspect, he's gone. for those people involved in seeing his condition and facilitating it, helping him along, aiding and abetting, i think this is a serious legal

issue. obviously everybody in law enforcement wants to get their hands on that evidence. >> it will be fascinating to piece those things together, the time line of the planning, who may or may not have been involved, looking at videotape, not just videotape that investigators are examining now, which may be a manifesto or perhaps not, but it may be looking at surveillance video in the community in stores, atms, all of that, richard, to try to piece this together. this is still very complicated, even though you have this gunman dead, and even though police on the surface believe he acted alone in terms of carrying out this act. but so much happened prior. >> that will be critical, fred. people even where i'm sitting now are discussing the fact that there are surveillance cameras all over the area, probably street cameras set up. all those video and all those recordings are being attempted to be obtained by law enforcement, reviewed by law enforcement to piece this time line together and to see as much

as they can from that video surveillance. >> all right. avery, richard, thanks so much, gentlemen, appreciate it. always love seeing you. >> have a great day, fred. all right. coming up in ten minutes, that's how long many eyewitnesses say it all happened, just all within ten minutes. and it ended with deputies exchanging fire with that gunman. what the sheriff is saying about all that took place in just ten minutes. when folks think about what they get from alaska, they think salmon and energy.

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all right. back now to our breaking news. a deadly shooting spree in california. police say a gunman drove through a college town near university of california, santa barbara, shooting and killing six people. the gunman was also killed. it is not clear if his wound was self inflicted. earlier, the sheriff's office held a news conference to answer reporters' questions. >> i am here to give you information on the incident that occurred in isla vista, at approximately 9:27 p.m. last night, this incident appears to be a mass murder situation. the time line as we've been able to put it together thus far is

as follows. at 9:27 p.m., the sheriff dispatch center received calls of multiple gunshots being fired in the isla vista area. we had deputies in the area on foot. who also heard a number of shots being fired. the deputies began responding in the direction of the gunshots and immediately found several victims who were suffering from gunshot wounds. as they were performing first aid on those victims, they were also receiving suspect information and a vehicle description. as this was occurring, additional shots were fired and calls were received by sheriff's dispatch in several areas of isla vista. during this initial stage, both the suspect and suspect vehicle descriptions were broadcast to law enforcement personnel who were in the area.

at 9:33:00 p.m., six minutes after the initial call was received, the suspect engaged a group of responding deputies with gunfire. the deputies returned fire and the suspect fled in his vehicle. seconds later, the suspect was again spotted by another deputy. another exchange of gunfire occurred at that time. the suspect fled down del playa, and eventually crashed into a parked vehicle. the deputies approached the crashed vehicle and determined that the suspect within that vehicle was dead from an apparent gunshot wound to the head. a handgun was recovered from within that vehicle. although we have preliminarily identified the suspect, we are not releasing the suspect's name

until a positive identification can be made. >> and there's another scheduled briefing from the sheriff's office at 4:00 pacific time, 7:00 p.m. eastern time. of course we'll take that live. other headlines now. violence in belgium. three people there were killed, another wounded in a shooting at the jewish museum of belgium in brussels. authorities say someone pulled up in a car, walked inside, and started shooting. the gunman left. police are now looking for that suspect. belgium's interior minister says the circumstances could suggest an anti-semitic attack. and the timing back in this country for an e. coli scare couldn't be much worse as millions of americans are getting ready to enjoy their memorial day cookout. e. coli scare hits two staples, water and ground beef. in oregon, they cleared out shelves of bottled water after it showed up on the portland

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right now, the investigators are looking for a motive. for many, many people that live in that area, they're trying to figure out how to cope with what they witnessed. jeff gardier is with us, clinical and forensic psychologist. many people witnessed their friends getting shot or dying there, six people killed thin shooting spree. what kind of advice do you have for these young people who are in shock, still trying to put together the loss? >> i would think that the police that are involved in the different crime scenes are debriefing many people in that particular community in those areas. that in itself is therapeutic. it gives information on the crime but allows people to have

that moment to talk about what they're experiencing. this is a smaller community, they're not used to this kind of tragedy as far as i know. so this is new territory for them. so it is going to be about getting as much information as possible, fredricka, knowing exactly what happened. and i know this is going to take days, but if nothing else, being able to communicate with one another and getting as much information as possible to process this. >> interesting. you say that really for some of the people, talking to investigators, it may feel cathartic, whereas a lot of us would automatically think for many folks to rearticulate what took place would almost be like reliving it all over again. some folks would be i don't want to talk about it, i don't want to acknowledge what happened, i just kind of want to be alone. you're saying that's probably not the best thing? >> what we find is when the debriefing happens, those people who are still in shock, they

need to be stabilized first, and the police are smart enough to be able to leave those people alone until they're able to give the information. but for others, they need to talk about what happened, they need to let it out. they can't sit on those emotions, so they continue to give information. they continue to communicate, even after the police have what they need. the important thing here psychologically is not to internalize the feelings because studies have shown that when you do that, it does cause all sorts of emotional and physical reactions that are quite negative and counter productive to the human condition. >> of course after something like this, naturally people always ask how could somebody do this, why would someone want to do this. all we know now publicly from the sheriff, the sheriff says he believes this person was mentally disturbed and believed this was premeditated. what kind of conclusion should

any of us have at this juncture, not knowing enough about the suspect as to why and what would lead someone to do something like that? >> earlier on i believe cnn talked about they had gotten information from law enforcement. this person was classified as, quote, a madman. i think when you look at that in itself, the explanation is there. someone of course who has a lot of rage, someone who has been building up resentment for quite some time. may see themselves as an outsider, very isolated. they blame everyone else for their being by themselves and not having the appropriate social skills, and if it is as we suspect someone who has planned this, and i really do believe that's what happened here, and what we've seen in previous cases, this is someone who is pathological, who is not a schizophrenic, but someone with a severe personality

disorder who would act out in this way so publicly because they want to leave a footprint of infamy, but revenge more than anything else. >> and hopefully, if anything, we can learn from something like this, if all those things are indeed the case, how to identify those things before a person snaps and does something like this. jeff gardere, thank you so much from new york. >> thank you. we have more ahead from the cnn newsroom. it all begins now. all right. hello again, everyone, i am fredricka whitfield. here are the top stories we are following in the cnn newsroom. this breaking story, some 12 hours after the fact. isla vista, a small college town in southern california, remains in shock this morning there after a gunman opened fire from his car, shooting people in nine different areas over a matter of blocks. six people were killed, seven others wounded. authorities say deputies

exchanged gunfire with the suspect after arriving on the scene there. the suspect fled in his vehicle, but police caught up with him, exchanging fire again for the second time. the suspect again driving off and crashing into a parked car. the gunman was found dead inside that vehicle with a gunshot wound to the head. still unclear whether he killed himself or was shot in that exchange of gunfire with the deputies. so we're following every angle of this investigation in the early stages now. justice correspondent evan perez is digging into details from washington, checking with his sources. evan, what's the latest that you've learned on this investigation? >> reporter: well, fred, you know, as federal officials get involved here, they're really going to be doing some of the work to first of all trace the handgun found on the scene. they're also taking a look at this video that the sheriff's office at the press conference at 2:00 a.m. mentioned something that they believed was related to this crime.

now the video that we're talking about, we're not showing it on air, we're waiting to hear more from the police, until they establish it indeed is the suspect, but in the video we can describe a little about it. he discusses that he is looking for some retribution, that he has been rebuffed by women, and that he is lonely. this may or may not be why he did this, but this is obviously something that the authorities are now focused on because it might provide some kind of explanation. it also to the police, it basically establishes that he had some premeditation, that he planned this out before he went on this rampage over four or five blocks in isla vista, fred. >> okay. and then, evan, because there are multiple crime scene locations, nine shootings, that's why federal authorities would be involved with local authorities there because simply

it is very intense, a large investigation? >> reporter: well, yes. this is a community that probably doesn't see anything like this very often. santa barbara is not a big police department, and isla vista certainly isn't, so the sheriff's office there is probably going to be looking for some help. they mentioned that the state crime lab, the california department of justice crime lab was going to be involved in helping them do this. this is obviously somewhere there's a lot of experience sadly to say from the law enforcement, federal law enforcement. they can do a lot of the help here, too, fred. >> evan perez, thank you so much. we'll talk more about the investigation being carried out on the local level. thanks so much. police are investigating written and video evidence indicating that the killings were premeditated. kyung lah joins us from isla vista where it is just past 10:00 in the morning there.

again, investigators still on the scene. it has been many hours but still an active crime scene, right? >> reporter: and we should say active crime scenes because they have nine places they're looking at. this is one of them. you can see the vehicle here. a lot of police tape throughout the entire community. what they're looking at is trying to pick up all of the bullets sprayed through the streets in isla vista. you can see -- it is a little hard to see, it is the orange markings, those are bullet casings, 12 were picked up here. there's a broken window. witnesses here tell us the black bmw struck people and then the driver was shooting at people as he was moving through the street. so this is one scene. as you scan this area, there are other scenes that are all taped off. a total of nine. we walked up and down through

parts of them, the areas we could get to. what we see at every single one of them is similar to this. officers trying to collect all of the evidence, trying to put all of the pieces together. this is a very large area they're looking at, even though this is a condensed geographical area, they have a large number of bullets, a lot of street to go over, a lot of people to interview. they're still in the process, fredricka, of interviewing witnesses. >> so we're talking about the distance, you gave a perspective, talking about roughly a four block area, is that the right number? >> reporter: it is a little hard to tell because we had to maneuver our way through several different streets. it seems to me to be about a six block area square. so it is a little difficult to tell, but there are a lot of people involved. everywhere you go, like this, you can see students that are just starting to wake up, trying to talk to some of their friends. you see a lot of groups like this, trying to figure out

exactly what motivated someone who was their age, someone who presumably some of them knew, trying to figure out why he would do this on a friday night when he knew so many people would be out here on the street. >> we know many of the people in the hospital are university of california santa barbara students. do we know that he, this gunman, attended that same university and know the number of the people? >> reporter: we don't know. we don't know. we have spoken to a couple of the people here. we should point out that there is a community college here as well as the ucsc. we talked to a lot of college kids that are living here as well. but it is a mixed population. >> interesting. kyung lah, get back to us as you learn more about the gunman and the investigation. appreciate it.

so nine crime shooting locations, and the suspect is now dead. how will investigators piece together exactly what happened in this small town and what happened prior to? i'll ask a former police detective next. >> all of a sudden we heard five large gunshots. originally i thought it was fireworks because it was so loud, we're used to loud noises. all of a sudden, a bunch of people outside started running into the store. >> people were running in, getting down, huddling in corners. that's when i was like this is real. >> didn't see it in front of me, but i don't believe it.

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i was walking right down here down the street, i was walking over to chase bank, then the car passed right by me and my friend, barely missed her, then hit the guy right behind

us, like literally from the street to the sidewalk. went to see if he was okay, right after that, saw the car run-down here, he was firing out shots. we just ran inside the nearest restaurant, waited until it calmed down. it was really hectic. a lot of people were just running. i've never seen it before ever. we were walking down the street, heard like sounded like fireworks, didn't sound like a gunshot honestly. that's why i was like what are people doing. people get really stupid out here sometimes, i thought it was fireworks or something. by the time we got across the street, it was actual gunshots. we heard him come right down here. >> wow. moments of terror being described there from a student living in the isla vista, california neighborhood. all seven people, included the suspected gunman, are dead. another seven injured in what police say was a premeditated mass killing. they say the gunman opened fire as he drove through town as you heard the eyewitness describing. there's now active investigation

at nine separate crime scenes, covering a number of blocks there in isla vista. let's bring in hln law enforcement analyst and former d.c. police detective mike brooks. all right. so this investigation is still very intense, active crime scene. we're hearing many investigators say the difference is it is daylight now, you can see things you couldn't necessarily see last night moments after the shooting took place. >> especially shell casings, these kind of things, and as kyung lah says, it is maybe a six square block area crime scene with nine separate and distinct crime scenes. so you've got a number of different departments working together there, including university of california police. university of california, santa barbara, about an hour ago put out a statement. the university is closely monitoring the details that are emerging about the shootings friday night in the neighboring community of isla vista. the uc police department is

working closely with santa barbara sheriff's office in support of the on-going investigation. we have been notified that several of our students were taken to local hospitals last night, but we do not have any additional information at this time. our hearts and prayers go out to the family and friends of those effected. the university has been making counseling services available for students through the night, set up emergency housing for displaced students. the university has a call center for parents and students with questions. we will be updating throughout the day. we heard part of the crime scene was an apartment area, so there probably are students as the statement says that have been displaced and cannot go back to their apartment. so such a big scene. but that's why you have all of the different law enforcement agencies that are working together to put together this, because we know that there was an officer involved shooting, that's also almost like a separate investigation that kind of winds throughout this investigation because he did confront the police and sheriff's deputies confronted him at least two times.

one time about six minutes after the initial call to the 911 center. then about three minutes after that. that's when the exchange of gunfire, the deputies approach, they found him dead of a gunshot wound to the head, we don't know again if it was self inflicted or if it was from rounds the deputies fired at him. >> and it is interesting, this is just miles away from university of california santa barbara campus. we heard kyung lah say there's a community college there, too, a number of people are impacted, whether students from uc santa barbara or otherwise, and still being investigated, whether the gunman was a college student himself or had interacted with any of these college students on a regular basis, could explain why this area, why this corner, why would this take place. >> and i think the investigators probably know that now through some of the writings they were talking about that the sheriff was talking about in his press

briefing, and this video statement, this video evidence that they have. >> continuing to still examine. >> continuing to still examine, but the sheriff sounds to me he believes this could be the gunman. they know his name, they're not putting his name out there, but apparently the video was titled retribution. >> and of course investigators will reach out to family members, friends, anyone that may have had interaction with this person, looking at, reexamining any surveillance video to see if there's anything to indicate how the plan was going to be acted out. >> exactly. and how long was this person planning on doing this. and i can guarantee you, no matter where this person lives, they are there right now with a search warrant going through everything that he has in that house and also the big question is how did he get that gun. was it purchased by somebody else, did a relative, a friend give it to him. did he purchase it legally possibly there in california. these are all questions that

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welcome back. we are following breaking news out of southern california. the sheriff in santa barbara county says a gunman went on a shooting spree near the campus of uc santa barbara, killing six people, and wounding seven others. robert johnson was at one of the scenes. he talked with cnn earlier about what he saw and heard. >> i was standing on the corner i heard i guess what sounded like i now know to be gunshots, but at that time i thought maybe they were fireworks or firecrackers going off which isn't uncommon occurrence here. then i was standing on the street corner and this black bmw turned through the intersection and goes down away from me, and about maybe two seconds later i heard a pop, and at first i remember looking at the car and thinking it had backfired, which

i remember thinking was strange because it was such a new car, and then it happened again. and by this time it had reached, it was right outside of a restaurant convenience store, and there were maybe a group of 6, 7, 8 people eating out in front of it, and i just saw him drive in front of it and open fire on the group. >> robert, did it seem to be targeting anybody or did it seem very random, the shooting? >> it all happened quickly, i think this happened to be the largest group on the street. >> you think he was aiming for the group there? >> yes, i think it was a target because it was the largest group in the area. >> what was the response from the crowds, was there screaming, did they start running, what did you see and hear from people standing on the corner? >> i saw the people that were fired upon immediately they all

jumped up. many tried to run into the building. i don't recall hearing any screaming. then it was at that point where i turned and ran the opposite direction. >> so can you help us understand what it's like there right now as you all -- i don't know if people have gone to bed after a situation like that, so glad that you're safe, but how are you feeling, how are people around you? >> i think there's just a lot of confusion going on. i think even shortly after this whole ordeal had ended, i think a lot of people still didn't realize the magnitude of the situation, because it hadn't been as much contained, it had only been around a quarter of the isla vista area. >> robert, you said that you saw this suspect shoot into a crowd. were any of those people shot on that corner or did he miss all of them? >> i can't say.

i wasn't close enough to see. let me correct you. they weren't on the corner, i was on the corner, and i was looking down the street. >> okay. mike, you have a question. >> robert, could you see if the gunman was by himself or if he had anyone else with him, and did he get out of the car or stay in the car when he fired on the group? >> i could not see into the vehicle, the windows were heavily tinted. but no one exited the vehicle. >> all right. that was robert johnson, an eyewitness. we also heard from another eye witness, daniel slovinsky. he told christi paul they didn't realize what was going on in the confusion. >> i heard some pops. i just assumed it was fireworks like most other people. contrary to what you might expect, there wasn't a whole lot of chaos immediately. i didn't hear any screaming. a few people were running, most other people didn't know why. it wasn't really until police

started yelling at people to get inside that we realized that something big went down. but even then, people didn't really know what. so i think robert is really right when he said there's just a lot of confusion rather than panic. i didn't even -- sorry, go ahead. >> no, go ahead. >> i didn't really figure out exactly what happened until i started talking with some of the eye witnesses myself, such as robert. >> so you were talking to robert. what were you saying and what did you see once things started to clear up and you were getting a picture of maybe how many people had been shot or how expansive the crime scene is? >> well, yeah, the first thing we were trying to figure out is how many people were injured and, you know, what exactly was going on with this suspect. and it seemed at the time that there were only maybe four at max possible deaths, so it was a

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all right. back to our breaking news now. a deadly shooting spree in southern california. police say a gunman drove through the college town of isla vista friday night, killing six people, wounding seven others near the campus of uc santa barbara, in what the sheriff describes as a premeditated mass murder. the deadly violence lasted roughly ten minutes. during that time police say the man opened fire at nine separate locations. the gunman later crashed his car, then was found dead from a gunshot wound to the head. police say they aren't sure if the fatal gunshot came from the suspect's own gun or if it was a result of the firefight with police. kyung lah joins us live from isla vista. what more are you learning and seeing there? >> reporter: this is the second scene that we are at. the first one actually started about a half block away from where we are, and you can see that officers here are still actively trying to collect

evidence. people, mainly students, are waking up. this is what they're waking up to. there's police tape all over this neighborhood. it is up and down several different blocks. you can see that there's a whole section that's cordoned off. in this particular area, the second crime scene, there was one person who was hit by the black bmw. there was one person who was shot by the person who was inside that black bmw. we saw officers pick up at least 12 different bullet casings from the ground. you can see there are some orange spots over there, and then if you look over here to the window, that window has also been shot out. so this is just one, fredricka, of a number of crime scenes. this is something that we've seen as we walked through this area. very similar throughout this entire area. you talk to the students here, they also tell you that they're completely shell shocked. that this was a normal friday night for most of them, about 9:30. the streets weren't completely packed yet.

an hour and a half later it would have been much busier. they were all preparing for a great night out when the vehicle started driving through and randomly shooting people. fredricka? >> as we look behind you, some people are on balconies, looking out windows. you see the parked police cars, you mentioned shell casings that investigators are picking up. what other activity that you're able to see from investigators, are they interviewing people, are there any other things that they seem to be, you know, uncovering in that radius of blocks? >> reporter: they are talking to other students. the other thing that we saw at the end of all of this was the vehicle is still there, and you can see that the front of the black bmw has been smashed out, and officers are canvassing the area, especially right where the bmw landed, talking to people to see if anyone knew him. they're trying to get at what happened, but then also the big

question of why. they just don't know why yet. we talked to a number of students here, many of them did not know him, fredricka. >> all right. thank you so much, kyung lah, appreciate that from isla vista there, still an active crime scene. we understand later today, 4:00 pacific, 7:00 eastern time, another press conference involving the santa barbara sheriff's department. earlier, this is what the sheriff had to say about all that they learned in the last few hours. >> this incident appears to be a mass murder situation. the time line as we've been able to put it together thus far is as follows. at 9:27 p.m., the sheriff dispatch center received calls of multiple gunshots being fired in the isla vista area. we had deputies in the area on foot. who also heard a number of shots being fired. the deputies began responding in

the direction of the gunshots and immediately found several victims who were suffering from gunshot wounds. as they were performing first aid on those victims, they were also receiving suspect information and a vehicle description. as this was occurring, additional shots were fired and calls were received by sheriff's dispatch from several areas of isla vista. during this initial stage, both the suspect and suspect vehicle descriptions were broadcast to law enforcement personnel who were in the area. at 9:33 p.m., six minutes after the initial call was received, the suspect engaged a group of responding deputies with gunfire. the deputies returned fire and the suspect fled in his vehicle. seconds later, the suspect was again spotted by another deputy.

another exchange of gunfire occurred at that time. the suspect fled down del playa, and eventually crashed into a parked vehicle. the deputies approached the crashed vehicle and determined that the suspect within that vehicle was dead from an apparent gunshot wound to the head. a handgun was recovered from within that vehicle. although we have preliminarily identified the suspect, we are not releasing the suspect's name until a positive identification can be made. currently the sheriff's office is not looking for any additional suspects. we believe the suspect acted alone. this is still a very active investigation, and as you can imagine, a very chaotic series of crime scenes. it is still in early phases of

the investigation. we identified nine separate crime scenes within the area, and multiple victims who were either shot or injured as a result of -- apparently as a result of the suspect's actions. seven victims are in area hospitals being treated for gunshot wounds or for traumatic injuries. at least one of those victims has undergone surgery for life-threatening injuries. we currently have seven confirmed dead, that includes the suspect, and six victims. we are in the process of identifying those victims and notifying their next of kin. we have obtained and we are currently analyzing both written and videotaped evidence that suggests that this atrocity was

a premeditated mass murder. the sheriff's office is currently interviewing multiple witnesses to these crimes, and we are asking for the public's assistance if there's anyone who has not yet been spoken to by law enforcement authorities, we would ask if you have information about this crime or series of crimes, if you would contact the santa barbara county sheriff's office tip line at 805-681-4171. i would like to acknowledge and thank those allied agencies who are currently assisting us in this investigation, in addition to patrol and investigative personnel from the santa barbara county sheriff's office, we are assisted by uc santa barbara police department, by the california highway patrol, by

the santa barbara police department, by the district attorney investigators, by the california state parks law enforcement personnel, and by criminalists from the department of justice crime lab. i know that this information that i am giving you at this point is somewhat preliminary. we are going to work diligently to get you more information in detail, including the identity of the suspect and victims. the next press conference is going to be scheduled for 4:00 p.m. today, at a location to be determined. we will notify you through our regular processes of where that press conference will be held. two things that i just want to say in closing. the first is i want to commend the deputy sheriffs who engaged very resolutely this suspect

very shortly after we were notified of this incident. there's no question in my mind at this point that their resolute actions and valor in doing so very well may have prevented further loss of life and injury. i also want to let the families of victims know that our hearts go out to them at this tragic time and we will be doing all that we can in the near future to try to identify the actual circumstances, the complete background information and so forth about this horrific series of events that occurred this evening. >> all right. you're listening to santa barbara county sheriff bill brown. of course, another press conference as we mentioned, 4:00 pacific time. all right. coming up. how will students and others cope after the deadly shooting spree in this beach side california town. will you help us find a new house for you and your brother?

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>> then he like lifted up a little black pistol, and, it was like an air soft gun or something. i was like hey, what up. then i turned around, i started walking the other way, and he shot and i just felt the wind pass right by my face. >> how does a community cope with such tragedy? talking about people that live in isla vista and the entire college community nearby. university of california santa barbara issued this statement today, saying, quote, our hearts and prayers go out to the family and friends of those affected. the university has been making counseling services available for students throughout the night and has set up emergency housing for displaced students. the university is also setting up a call center for parents and

students with questions, end quote. again, the shooting not taking place on the campus but this is a college community, isla vista being not far from the campus of university of california santa barbara. so clinical and forensic psychologist jeff gardere back with us. the university is providing counseling, will that be enough for students that go to school miles away? >> in the short run it will be absolutely what is needed and i hope any neighboring schools also has this kind of counseling set up, because yes, we know that the people directly involved who may have lost a friend or family member and certainly the people who witness some of these shootings will have post traumatic stress disorder. and this is where they'll have nightmares and recollections and flashbacks and anxiety and depression. it is a stressful disorder to

have. but i believe, fredricka, the whole community has been effected because this is an e idyllic setting, they're not used to it to my knowledge, everyone needs to get together and talk about what it feels like. for students seeing the crime scenes and police tape and blocks that are closed, all of this adds to the trauma that we believe they will be experiencing. >> certainly trauma being felt in the short term, and also in the long term to what degree? >> well, i think in the long term people who haven't gotten the short term counseling are going to be the ones who suffer more. p.t.s.d. is insidious, people think i can handle that. even though it was traumatic, i can get through this, but you do need the counseling. and i believe this school, university of california, as well as the neighboring schools at this point should do educational sessions also on how

to talk about what has happened and the fact that this is not a safe world any more. this is a new normal. a lot of us watch cnn and look at this and say oh, another shooting, but to actually experience it and to be in that area, that's something completely different. therefore they need to get on-going counseling and education as to the world in which they live and how they can cope with the stressors as the years roll by. >> certainly making an impact and has already to a large degree. jeff gardere, thanks so much. >> sure. more on that deadly mass shooting in a few minutes. coming up, some of the day's other top stories, including pope francis' whirlwind trip throughout the holy land.

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we're following breaking news to out of california today of a mass shooting on the streets of a college town. investigators say a gunman opened fire killing six people. we're digging into the latest details on that. first we want to bring you other stories making headlines today. gun violence in belgium, an active police investigation as well. three ill canned, another wounded in a shooting at the jewish museum of belgium.

authorities say someone pulled up in a car, walked inside and simply started shooting. the gunman left and police are now looking for that suspect. belgium's interior minister says the circumstances could suggest an anti-semitic be attack. belgium has just raised its terror alert level now. and it's one of the most highly anticipated papal trips in recent history. pope francis is on a whirlwind three-day tour throughout the holy land. over the next few days he will shake hands with religious and political leaders in three city, celebrate two catholic masses, and deliver at least 13 speeches and homilies. a short time ago, the pope visited the jordan river, where many christians believe jesus was baptized. it cooked off his trip this morning in amman jordan, meeting with king abdullah ii at the royal palace. jordan is a mostly muslim nation but thousands packed the city's international stadium to hear the pope say saturday mass.

and tomorrow, pope francis leaves jordan and heads by helicopter to bethlehem. back here in the u.s., wildfires are burning their way across parts of northern arizona. the numbers tell the story. 8,500 acres scorched already, and the fire is only 5% contained. nearly 1,000 firefighters is aren't trying to slow the spread of flames from flagstaff to sedona. hundreds of homes and businesses have already been evacuated. jennifer gray joins me now with a look at conditions out there. >> reporter: yeah, so dry, fred. >> frightening. >> reporter: 76% of the state is in severe drought. 8% in extreme, very dry conditions, and this is going to last throughout the next several days at at least. humidity very, very low. 32%, and flagstaff, it's expected to drop a little as we go through the evening hours, and then 33, by 7:00, seeing

winds remain also a problem as well. a little bit on the gusty side. 19 mile-per-hour winds right around tomorrow morning, and then could be gusting up to 20 at times. so we are going to see quite a bit of wind involved in this as well. 70 degrees currently right in sedona right now. humidity at 21%. wind speed only about 6 miles per hour. no wind gusts. like i mentioned before, that is expected to pick up just a little bit as we go through the next 24 to 48 hours. as we go through the next several days, temperatures are expected to warm up. mid-90s by tuesday. no rain in the forecast whatsoever. only a 20% today and tomorrow. most of the showers are in new mexico today, and should say well to the east of the area. unfortunately, not getting any relief anytime soon. >> goodness. people have to be really careful with conditions like that. >> yes. >> thank you so much, jennifer gray. appreciate it. all right. we'll get back to today's big

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welcome back. a college town in california is on edge today after a deadly shooting spree. investigators say a gunman opened fire from his car killing six people last night in isla vista near the santa barbara campus. the gunman is also dead. it's not clear if it was self-inflicted. the sheriff's office is trying to figure out a motive today and we're expecting more details at a news conference, 7:00 eastern

time, 4:00 pacific. earlier i spoke about where the investigation goes now with a retired assistant director with the atf, who served as on-scene commander for the deadly massacre at columbine high school in colorado, and he explained what's likely happening in california today. >> well, right now daylight tells a whole new story, and in the several hours that have taken place, it gives investigators the opportunity to slow down the pace. to examine the ballistic evidence, and to also conduct a thorough, very comprehensive investigation to everything this offender was involved in. specifically looking at, like i said, the ballistic evidence, where the shots were fired from. how many magazines did he carry? with the semiautomatic weapon. to discuss and have conversations with his friends, relatives, interview the witnesses's they all tell a story. looking at the social network. the search of the car.

all his personal belongings. the local video from atm machines, convenience store, restaurants and bars. it's almost a story within itself that each one of these pieces contains a different frame to tell the story from the perspective of what actually happened. >> and in large part -- sorry. in large part is it to figure out the motive, primarily, or is it also trying to, to try and confirm or make sure there aren't other people that may have been complicit and involved with him? >> absolutely. they want to look at the social media aspect and they want to look at the video to see if there's anybody with him on the street, in the car. some witnesses said there were two people in there. others can't confirm if it was one or two, but also to corroborate whatever they have. there's a mention by the sheriff's office they have admissions from this individual. this will corroborate all that and put together a good investigation, and i think they're an the right path bringing in the government and bringing in subject matter

experts to the table. >> thanks, rich. much more straight ahead in the "newsroom," and it all starts right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com hello again, everyone. i'm fredricka whitfield in the "cnn newsroom." chaos and confusion on the streets of a small college town after a gunman opens fire. it happened last night in isla vista, california, just west of santa barbara. police say the gunman drove slowly through several neighborhoods, shooting at people in nine different locations. six people were killed, and seven others wounded. the gunman was found dead in his car after a firefight with police. ken law is live for us in isla vista and evan perez in washington. let's begin with you, kyung, right in front of a very active crime scene. what is being learned today? >> reporter: well, we have learned this is the second crime scene. we were actually just a short