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justice is for the state to have proof that there really is a set fire, and they didn't have that here. >> it wasn't a case of charging the wrong person with a crime, there was no crime at all. it was an accident. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com peck pictures of a cand candlelight vigil and scenes from a horrible incident yesterday. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. 6:00 on the east coast. this is "new day" sunday. we're starting this hour of
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course with the devastating news from that sleepy college town in california, a town now in mourning after a madman went on a rampage killing six members of the community before taking his own life. >> we know the shooter's identity, it's 22-year-old elliot rodger, he described a lifetime of rejection by women and sexual frustration. in a 140-page manifesto and left behind a youtube video detailing his plan to attack. >> tomorrow is the day of retribution, the day in which i will have my revenge against humanity. >> meanwhile, the santa barbara community is united in anguish. last night thousands of students and residents staged a candlelight vigil, singing "amazing grace" also walk through the streets of isla vista. >> some of the deepest pain is being sought by those who lost
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the people they love friday night including the father of 21-year-old christopher martinez. he lashed out his anger at his son's death. >> why did chris die? chris died because of craven, irresponsible politicians and the nra. they talk about gun rights. what about chris' right to live? >> let's go back to friday night, because we now have a better understanding of the killing spree that took so many lives. the rampage started at rodger's apartment where he believed to have stabbed three men to death. from there he drove to the alpha v sorority house, he shot three women outside, two were killed. >> he continued to a local deli where he shot and killed his sixth victim and then drove
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firing multiple people on the sidewalk, hitting pedestrians, crashing into bicycles. several points exchanged fire with police as well. >> and that attack finally came to an end when rodger crashed his bmw into several parked cars when he was dragged out of the vehicle and handcuffed, he was already dead from an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound to the sat. >> issa sidnor has been followi the story. >> reporter: police say this is where the sinister plan of a student began to unfold. three people all stabbed to death are taken from the apartment of elliot rodger and then police say rodger turned his rage on strangers, carrying out a chilling plan he detailed on youtube. >> on the day of retribution, i am going to enter the hottest sorority house of ucsd and i
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will slaughter every single spoiled stuck-up blond [ bleep ] i see inside there. >> reporter: police say rodger pounded on the door but never made it inside the sorority. instead, he began gunning people down outside. when we arrived, blood and flowers marked the spot where three young women were shot, two killed. so you're there at the fraternity. >> yes. >> reporter: you're just down the street and you come around the corner after hearing gb sho gunshots and what'd you see? >> i came up and basically there was a young girl laying right here, and she was, i could just tell immediately that she was gone. i saw a dpash on her side and also one through her head. so you could tell she wasn't bleeding anymore, so that she was gone. there was another girl right here. >> reporter: my god, there were
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more than one. >> there was three girls, yes, a dwirl right here and she was really, really struggling. you could tell she was barely able to move her eyes and just moving her arms slightly, and then there was another girl right here, and she was kind of laying down crouched. she was still conscious. she was talking. she immediately got on the phone with her mother, and was tell her mother with how much she loved her and she wasn't sure that she was going to make it. and then it probably took about a minute or two and the one right here passed away. >> reporter: the third victim there survived, but the drive-by shooting spree continued, snatching away life with reckless abandon, leading families in searing emotional pain. >> he was the most warm, loving, kind-heart kind-hearted kid you could ask for. i mean, it's just -- you talk to
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people that knew him, they would tell you, just a great kid. he had a beautiful soul. he was kind and thoughtful. >> his son, 20-year-old student christopher ross-martinez, just wanted to grab a bite to eat at this market. he lost his life instead. he, along with five other innocents, are dead. police say all victims of a young man with a deadly plan -- guns, a fast car, and plenty of ammunition. >> sara sidnor joins us live from isla vista. in addition to the six people rodger killed what, do we know about the 13 others injured in this attack? >> reporter: we know eight of them were shot and three of them were hit by his car. there's one person who sustained minor injuries and the police
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aren't quite clear what happened to that person. there are still people in the hospital dealing with gunshot wounds and broken bones. this case has so many disturbing details to it. 10 different crime scenes, seven people killed, the shooter ending up according to authorities killing himself, likely shot himself in the head and then you see these growing memorials and we just talked to you about christopher martinez. this is the memorial to christopher martinez, he was killed here at the ivy deli mart, with one girl, at least one person trying to save him, and throughout the evening, there have been more candles and more flowers brought to this particular site. also at the site where the girls were walking by the sorority, where two girls died, one of the girls ended up surviving. there is a growing memorial there. you can hear from the voices of students that they are extremely disturbed by what happened here,
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but also fearful. they said when they were walking down the street, right after this happened and subsequently throughout the day, they would be nervous, jumpy, as cars drove by, after witnessing such horror here in isla vista. >> you can imagine. you know, sara, i want to ask you quickly about the girls in the sorority house. when you hear he pounded on door for two minutes and nobody answered i'm wondering if there's counseling made available to them because they are thinking my gosh, had we opened that door, who knows what he would have done and that's got to be sobering to them. >> reporter: yes, we know there was a sign on the door saying "we're not commenting on what's happening, please respect our privacy." we are hearing they are being given some kind of counseling assistance. all the students here so shaken by this, so concerned, and also many of them going online, trying to understand the person behind this, the suspect, elliot rodger, watching those videos he
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posted online. there are several but the most disturbing one is the one where he describes and details what it is he is going to do. he tried to carry that out. wasn't able to get inside the sorority but starting his shooting spree and ramming people with his car outside. it went on for about ten minutes. had gun battles with sheriff's deputies as well and in the end, it appeared he shot and killed himself. this has just been a terrible time for students. there was also a vigil last night where hundreds of students showed up, some in tears, holding candles, trying to remember the victims. >> we'll have more from the students understandably very difficult time for isla vista. sara sidner live for us this morning, thank you. >> as she mentioned we are hearing and learning new details about theer er iterrifying mom when rodger opened fire. >> listen to this witness.
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>> i was inside my apartment. i heard some what sounded like gunshots in the distance, but we couldn't tell because it was faint, it was in the distance and about a minute later, the scene showed up to the place right in front of my apartment, and we heard a loud crash and about close to 30 rounds of gunfire, and i looked outside and i saw the bmw had crashed into the parked cars on the street and made its way up to the sidewalk and you know, the car has a huge hole in the windshield, with a huge dent on the roof as well. there was a, but cycle in the street, there was a bicyclist involved that may have been hit. and then when i looked outside, i saw one cop rush to the car and the policeman cleared out the car, and then very soon after, more squad cars showed
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up, policemen showed up with their rifles, they cleared the scene. i saw the driver get pulled out. i think there may have been another person in the car, i'm not sure, or maybe that other person was a bicyclist, but they were kind of in the same area, and the ambulances showed up, policemen were telling us to stay inside because there were weapons involved, maybe not all the weapons were recovered at that point, and just a very chaotic, shocking scene. it's really a shock, because this is such a beautiful place, and we're here to go to college in uc santa barbara, it's a beautiful campus and here we are living on the beach, we're supposed to be enjoying a certain type of lifestyle, where everyone's like you know, not completely care-free but that's kind of like the lifestyle that we have, and we're supposed to feel safe and be able to go out and do our own thing.
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and i never thought that i would witness gun violence, and i would never imagine it would be here out of all places so it's a huge shock. it's very sad. and i never expected anything like this to are take place. >> you know, another jolting fact here, police say three handguns and more than 400 rounds of unused ammunition were recovered from rodger's vehicle. >> there's more video that we want to you see, surveillance video, and it catches the moment that elliot rodger started shooting inside the deli. you'll see more of this. you'll see the stunning bravery that happened inside this deli. new car!
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okay, we need a second ambulance nor another gunshot wounded, ivy deli mart, code three. >> another xgunshot to the ches. >> those were the calls after a 22-year-old man shot a man outside a tellie. >> the moment bullets came flying into that deli, our kyung lah has the story. >> reporter: a normal friday night at the ivy mart when suddenly -- >> i was like holy -- oh, my god. >> reporter: mike hassan's surveillance cameras capturing the moment at his store. customers ducking, a glass door
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shattering, while people run, one come tries to reach out to a victim, and calls 911 as bullets fly overhead. the gunman is just outside, mere feet away, intent on killing. >> there's two bullets came in through the counter, the counter down here. you can see through. >> reporter: holes puncture the wall, riddle the glass. chunks of counter missing. that's a bullet fragment. >> yes. >> reporter: where did it come from? >> in the back. >> reporter: the worst is too gruesome to show. christopher ross martinez was headed to the deli to get something to eat. surveillance show him running inside, bullets hit him twice. the ucs student bleeds to death on the floor as his friends try to keep him alive using cpr. >> it was very horrible, it was very, very, like i saw some of it and i couldn't finish, like you can't imagine the horrible.
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>> reporter: from the deli the gunman drove to this apartment complex where ellen cotton recorded the barrage of bullets on her iphone. >> can't find the words, horrible, sad, i'm still like in shock that like this happened here, and it was just so random. >> reporter: in the angle that we can't show you, you see the victim's friends trying to comfort him, trying to resuscitate him. there's the woman who dials 911 who refuses to leave even as bullets are flying over her head. this deli, a microcosm of bravery and humanity, even in the face of such horror. victor, christi? >> kyung lah in isla vista for us thank you. switching gears because there is other news we need to talk about, in the ukraine prime minister says violent crashes are not going to keep ukrainians from the polls. the country is picking a new president today.
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journalist? >> reporter: we don't know much. we know it took place in slovyansk. close to the russian border where most of the voice has been so far. this is one of the regions you have pro-russian separatists operating, armed men, we saw many intimidating pollers, shutting down polling stations and crashing with ukrainian forces and a lot of journalists there as well covering these clashes and it's believed this is where the italian journalist was killed. it's a dangerous place as you both know well, christi and victor this violence is difficult to identify who is targeting whom and when, but to be in the middle of it can be dangerous. we know his family is going to come here to identify the body and a russian journalist was killed nearby as well. >> jim, i read that there are more than 2,400 polling sites open and at one point yesterday
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only 426 of them actually were open. do we know now that we're five hours into the polling and the voting, how it's going, what the scene is, how many are open? >> well what we know is that it's very different depending on what part of the country you're in. here in kiev, the capital, the western part of the country in some parts of the east things are going pretty well. we've spoken to observers from the oscu, the international organization, in fact it has a lot of americans taking part as well, madeleine albright, former congressman jane harmon and others taking part in observing the election. in the parts of the west, the capital, things proceeding as normal. in the east where we spent the last couple of days it will be very difficult. we visited a number of polling stations in donetsk and lugansk. they've been forcibly shut down by armed pro-russian
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separatists. they would take all the election materials, ballots, manuals, and burn them, smash ballot boxes et cetera and more importantly they would threaten residents telling them you'll be in danger if you vote, and that's really part of their goal here is to keep people from voting in that part of the country and they're having some success. >> we'll talk more about the validity of the vote, considering ballots are being burned throughout the morning. jim sciutto in kiev for us, thank you. pope francis is on a visit to the holy land and he met p palestinian leader mahmoud abbas. earlier the pontiff celebrated mass in jordan promoting a message of up itty. this is his first trip to the holy land as leader of the roman catholic church belgium's terror alert has been raised after a deadly shooting in brussels.
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right now. we're so glad that we have your company here today. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell, and there's new details this morning about the beginning of this killing spree, this tragic event
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that happened in isla vista, started friday night. sheriff's officials say this massacre started at the apartment of elliot rodger, where he stabbed three men to death before killing three more in a drive-by shooting and injuring 13 others on the streets of isla vista. >> police say 22-year-old rodger left behind a 140-page manifesto detailing what he felt was a life of rejection by women and sexual frustration, along with a chilling youtube video detailing his plan of attack. >> at a press conference the santa barbara sheriff did not mince words, calling rodger severely disturbed. >> in reading this 141-page, rambling autobiographical almost a combination of an autobiography and a diary, it's very apparent of the severe extent of how disturbed mr.
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rodger was, and the fact that he had been and was continuing to be seen by a variety of different health care professionals, but it's very, very apparent that he was severely mentally disturbed. >> and we have a copy of it here, and the sheriff there calls it rambling but it is organized here. >> oh, my gosh. >> he starts with an introduction and part one, age zero through 5 and complains about height and women and video games, so that manifesto people are looking through that now, trying to answer the question of why, but you know, we know that last month a member of elliot rodger's family asked law enforcement officers to check on his welfare. >> they knew, obviously. police did go to his home. this is the thing, and they say they found elliot rodger "polite and courteous." they didn't search his apartment but listen to his family's
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statement, this coming after the killing. >> the rodger family offers their deepest compassion and sympathy to the families involved in this terrible tragedy. we are experiencing the most inconceivable pain and our hearts go out to everybody involved. >> cnn's sara sidner joins us live from isla vista. we're learning more about what happened there and what happened before those initial stabbings with this elliot rodger. what's happening there this morning? >> reporter: i want to show you what's happening here, because the students here and the people of isla vista have been so struck by this, so affected by this, and what we're seeing now as you know, there are ten crime scenes, what we're seeing now is in the places where the victims were killed, there are growing memorials. you can see the one that's grown here at the ivy deli mart. this is where christopher martinez died, lost his life.
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people leaving candles, bringing flowers. people are coming by. the city never sleeps. it's a student town, lots of students still out here, 24-hour cafes. they're walking back and forth. it is just remarkable how people have reacted to this, but certainly disturbing. all the students rattled by all of this, all the people of this town wondering if something could have been done. you mentioned the fact that he, the suspect, elliot rodger, had serl contacts with police this year, three, in fact, and it's interesting to note the details of those. one of them he called police huff and was in the hospital saying that he was attacked. police looked into that, and investigated it, but all of those charges or anything was dropped did not go forward with that case because they believed he was an aggressor in that situation. there was another contact where he made a citizens arest. you don't hear about that every
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day. he made a citizens arest on a roommate, according to the sheriff, because the roommate, he said, had stolen $22 worth of candles. his roommate was actually booked into the jail, and then there was one more contact, where police said that family members of elliot rodger, the suspect, called ul and were concerned about him and wanted someone to check on him. police went to check on hum and they said he was very polite and they left. nothing further until we heard what happened here in isla vista. >> well we all know the cliche that hindsight is 20/20, but those three elements, those three incidents didn't stop what happened on friday night in isla vista. sara sidner, thank you. those first shots rang out at 9:27 p.m. pacific time in isla vista, again that was friday night. >> the next ten minutes, though, that's what had to have seemed like an eternity for these people as the gunman weaves down
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the street to shooting at victims until his car finally crashed. in fact, listen to some people who were there. >> shots fired, shots fired. >> like lifted up his glock. >> i thought it was an airsoft gun or something, so i was like, hey, like and turned around and started walking the other way. he shot and i felt, you just felt the wind pass right by my face. >> multiple gunshot victims in front of ivy deli. >> he was outside of a restaurant convenience store called ivy deli mart and there were maybe a group of six, seven, eight people eating out in front of it, and he stopped in front of it and fired upon the group. >> second ambulance another gunshot wound, ivy deli mart. >> she was really struggling. you could tell she was just barely cable to move her eyes
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and then there was another girl here and she was kind of like laying down crouched. she immediately got on the phone with her mother and was telling her mother about how much she loved her and wasn't sure that he was going to make it. >> witness of a dark colored bmw, one occupant, a male, wearing a white shirt. >> we heard a loud crash and about, you know, close to 30 pounds of gunfire, and i looked outsued and i saw the bmw had crashed into the parked cars on the street. >> the car passed by me and my friend, barely missed her and hit the guy right behind us, literally flipped him from the street to the sidewalk. >> i saw one cop rush to the car. the policeman cleared out the car. i saw the driver get pulled out. he looked very hurt. i mean, to me he was either unconscious or already dead. >> currently the sheriff's office is not looking for any additional suspects. we believe this suspect acted alone. this incident appears to be a
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back now to our continuing coverage of the deadly california rampage. police have identified nnow now 22-year-old elliot rodger as the shooter. >> we're combing through the evidence including a chilling youtube video. >> tomorrow is the day of retribution, a day in which i will have my revenge against humanity. >> for nearly seven minutes, rodger talks about feeling rejected and talks about his
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plan to kill. he gives details. these pictures are from rodger's facebook page. >> cnn obtained a 141-page manifesto written by ronl rodge titled "my twisted world." dr. jeff gardere, this is crazy thick and organized into the parameters of his world from the time he was born until really the time that he died and dr. gardere, i'm wondering, when we look back, say at sandy hook and adam lanza who tried to destroy evidence in that case, here we have a shooter who almost wants us to know everything. what does this tell you about his psyche and would this have been treatable i want to say, because it goes all the way back to his birth. he was holding onto hatred that was obviously very deep. >> so with adam lanza was, this
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was a person who had multiple mental health issues, and certainly pervasive developmental issues and so on and therefore shied away completely from society. didn't want to be part, could not be part of it. but with elliot rodger we see an individual who desired to be with other people, who desired to be in society but always felt like he was being rejected. he had a sense of grandeur and overwhel miming sense that he w better than everyone else but no one could recognize it. when he goes on his rant as to how much he hates women, he really wanted to be with women and therefore wanted the world to know his pain, and that his revenge was part of the pain that he was going to have other people experience that he always had. >> true hatred of women. i want to read a part of that reference to that. "future generations of men would be oblivious to these remaining
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women's existence and that is for the best. if a man grows up without knowing of the existence of women, there will be no desire for sex. sexuality will completely cease to exist. love will cease to exist. there will no longer be any imprint of such concepts in the human psyche. it is the only way to purify the world." another thing that he did not write that humankind would cease to exist if you get rid of all the women. i don't know if he thought that far but this doesn't develop everynight. right? there has to be some signs, some signal to someone around in 22 years that this was something that he was obsessed about. >> yes, victor, and certainly what we're seeing, unlike adam lanza, who developed a schizophrenia at some point in his life, this individual seemed to have what we call a very severe personality disorder, something that develops throughout a lifetime. you don't see the hallucinations, auditory or visual, that you'll see with someone who's psychotic or
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schizophrenic. this say person stuck in the cognition of being completely inappropriate, who is totally self-centered, where the universe must fit his view. it's his planet. we're only living in it with him. and so since he is that center of the universe, this is an individual who feels that anything that anyone does that does not fit his view, well that person becomes an enemy. he picks on women throughout this whole thing, but this was a person who was afraid of puberty, who was afraid of sex, and therefore, women became a symbol of what he hated but as you stated correctly, this is a person who hated humanity. >> the other thing that struck me was the fact there was this welfare check done on him just three and a half weeks ago by officials whom his parents had called and they had seen some suicidal messages apparently on social media by him, but they said he was polite. i mean, he fooled them. he obviously fooled a lot of
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people. are they that good at acting? is it common for somebody who has these mental issues to be that good to fool everyone? >> well, certainly this was a narcissistic personality, and as you commented the manifesto was well-wr well-written, like a book. it is his view of his world. it is easier for them to fool medical and law enforcement officials and that's why it's difficult to treat them. there's no medication for someone with personality disorder. he came off as being totally healthy when he was checked with this welfare check pi the police. however, i do not want to point fingers here. if they were able to triage late, in other words, go back and look hatat his record, july 21st he was treated for injuries
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but seen as the instigator in 2013. january 15th, 2014, he made a citizens arrest, which was weird in itself, for stealing, his roommate stealing three candles. this was a kid who came from wealth. when they did the welfare check april 30th 2014, if they looked at previous contacts with police certainly they would have had more of an indicator that his parents or family saying check on this kid was certainly a red flag, so the dots were not connected here. again, i'm not pointing fingers but i think we all as society need to do i abetter job with these situations been. >> dr. gardere, we also want to talk about video games which he cites in the manifesto. there will be people who say why do you bring this up now? in the 141-page document he references "world of warcraft"
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120 times. we'll continue our coverage of this tragic rampage, 13 people injured, six killed and add to that elliot rodger himself, making it number seven, our coverage continues after the break. hey! [squeals] ♪ [ewh!] [baby crying] the great thing about a subaru is you don't have to put up with that new car smell for long. the versatile, 2015 subaru forester. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. i couldn't lay down it was a i couldn't sit up because it burned so much. as first lady of our church we have meetings. we have activities. and i couldn't do any of that. any time anything brushed up against this rash
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>> you know, the cleaver family was a real life family. ul the episodes of "leave it to beaver" are from real life. they weren't people going in and writing jokes. we didn't care if there were laugh s or not. they were trying to write a very, very good show that had a moral to it, and it was something that not only appealed to adults but also to kids. >> and to that end, how has scripted television changed over the last 50 years, from your perspective? >> well, from my perspective, it's much more salacious now. the more things you can get on, a lot of times the people that you're watching, you've heard about them not because of the show they've done but possibly because of the troubles they've had with the law and other things, so television was a completely different type. it was situation comedy. you sat there for a half hour. it wasn't people just going out
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and being themselves on what we call so-called reality tv, because a lot of that is very much scripted and not scripted but they create the situations to be able to create drama. "leave it to beaver" it all from real life. i'm not saying all that happened to just one kid but the kernels of each story is something that really happened to kids. >> what do you watch today? >> i hate to tell you, but i watch you guys all the time. for the most part i watch the financial networks answer my wife will tell you, i'm a news junkie. i like to know what's going on in the world, and i manage my own finances, so i do watch a rot of t lot of the financial networks. >> one of the icons of situation comedies doesn't watch sitcoms. >> you know what? most of the things that i see today, i just, i don't find them all that funny. >> cnn original series "the '60s" thursday, may 29th at 9:00
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-- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com ♪ those are some of the latest images we're getting there. we're so grateful for your company. i'm christi paul. thanks for being here. >> i'm victor blackwell. 7:00 on the east coast, 4:00 out west. this is "new day" sunday. we're starting this hour with as you saw the california college town in mourning after as he's been called a madman went on a rampage, killing six members of the community, before taking his own life. >> the shooter, 22-year-old elliot rodger. he described a lifetime of rejection by women and sexual frustration in this 141-page manifesto and left behind a lengthy youtube video detailing his plan to attack. >> meanwhile,edab abunderstandae
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santa barbara community is you nighted in anguish. last night thousands of students and came together, this is a candlelight vigil and they walked through the streets of isla vista. >> some of the deepest pain i think felt by the people who lost those they loved friday night. >> why did chris die? chris died because of craven, irresponsible politicians and the nra. they talk about gun rights. what about chris' right to live? >> that was the father of this man, christopher martinez. martinez was just 20 years old. he was shot inside that ivy deli on friday night. >> take a look here at froveron weiss, the 19-year-old shot by rodger standing outside the sorority house. her friends hremember her as
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beautiful and as you can see, always smiling. sara sidner joins us live from isla vista. sara, i cannot imagine what this community is going through this morning and how they're trying to start this process of healing. >> christi and victor, you can see what they're doing to try and deal with this and try to start that process of healing. i'm standing outside of the ivy deli mart where you just mentioned christopher ross martinez was gunned down. he was a 20-year-old student. his father says he was doing so well in school. he had just come in here to grab something to eat and was gunned down by a suspect on a shooting rampage. police say this is where the sinister plan of a disturbed student began to unfold. three people all stabbed to death are taken from the apartment of elliot rodger and then police say rodger turned his rage on strangers, carrying
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out a chilling plan he detailed on youtube. >> on the day of retribution, i am going to enter the hottest sorority house of ucsd and i will slaughter every single spoiled stuck-up blond [ bleep ] i see inside there. >> reporter: police say rodger pounded on the door but never made it inside the sorority. instead, he began gunning people down outside. when we arrived, blood and flowers marked the spot where three young women were shot, two killed. so you're there at the fraternity. >> yes. >> reporter: you're just down the street and you come around the corner after hearing gunshots and what'd you see? >> i came up and basically there was a young girl laying right here, and she was, i could just tell immediately that she was gone.
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i saw a gush out of a wound on her abd men, one to her side, and also one to her head. so you could tell she wasn't bleeding anymore, so that she was gone. there was another girl right here. >> reporter: my god, there were more than one. >> there was three girls, yes, a girl right here and she was really, really struggling. you could tell she was barely able to move her eyes and just moving her arms slightly, and then there was another girl right here, and she was kind of laying down crouched. she was still conscious. she was talking. she immediately got on the phone with her mother, and was telling her mother with how much she loved her and she wasn't sure that she was going to make it. and then it probably took about a minute or two and the one right here passed away. >> reporter: the third victim there survived, but the drive-by shooting spree continued, snatching away life with reckless abandon, leading families in searing emotional pain. >> he was the most warm, loving,
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kind-hearted kid you could ask for. i mean, it's just -- you talk to people that knew him, they would tell you, just a great kid. he had a beautiful soul. he was kind and thoughtful. >> his son, 20-year-old student christopher ross martinez, just wanted to grab a bite to eat at this market. he lost his life instead. he, along with five other innocents, are dead. police say all victims of a young man with a deadly plan -- guns, a fast car, and plenty of ammunition. >> our thanks to sara sidner there in isla vista. we have hln law inforcement analyst mike brooks joining news studio. the three of us, we're going to have a conversation now the sheriff there, bill brown, with santa barbara sheriff's office.
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sir, thank you for spending some time with us. i know you have a lot of work to do, but very quickly, can you tell us what's the latest on the investigation here? >> well, victor, the situation is that we're wrapping up the investigation. we're finalizing the identification and notification of the next of kin of the three remaining victims who were fatally injured and as soon as that's finished we'll update the media with their identities and school affiliations and what have you and then it's really just a matter of putting it all together in terms of the investigative report and making sure that we have a complete picture of exactly what happened. so it's going to go on obviously for weeks, until we finalize it, but in terms of the heavy lifting at the beginning of the investigation, the evidence processing, the interviewing, all of that, is for the most
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part finished although we'll continue periodically for the next couple of weeks with that endeavor. >> sheriff, do you know, one of the things we haven't heard a lot about are the three men that were in that apartment. do you know how, what they were doing there, and how he was able to overpower three other men and stab them repeatedly to death? >> well, we don't know at this point completely, other than there's some indications in his manifesto he talked about killing his roommates while they slept, and also talked about luring as many people as possible into his apartment and killing them prior to going out and enacting the second and third phases of his planned rampage, which resulted in the targeting of a sorority and the ultimate driving around isla
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vista and randomly shooting people. what we've seen thus far is consistent with at least some of what he documented in this manifes manifesto. >> do you know if he knew these three men personally? >> i'm sorry, could you repeat that? >> do you know if he threw the three men found dead inside his home personally? >> yes, i really can't comment on that until we are finished with the identification of those people. >> mike? >> sheriff, the three guns that were found. do we know when and where they were purchased? >> the three guns were purchased, one of them was purchased in galida, the city adjacent to isla vista, the other in oxnard and the remaining firearm was purchased in the city of burbank, all from a federally licensed firearms dealers. >> do we know how far before this happened he bought those three weapons?
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>> he bought the three of them i believe over the course of about a year. >> so there was this april 30th welfare check, where an officer went to his home. were they members of your department? >> yes, they were. >> so knowing now that essentially with due respect, your officers got it wrong in saying there was nothing wrong there. what's your reaction to that? >> well, i think it shows that the unfortunate situation that mr. rodger was, although deeply disturbed, he was able to put on a front, as it were, and convuns them, and obviously convince a lot of other people that he didn't have problems that were so severe that it would require some fairly extreme intervention by mental health professionals. he obviously had been treated for quite some time by mental
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health care professionals. he'd been prescribed medication and you know, he had a severe underlying mental illness, but on the surface, he presented, unfortunately, as many of our young students do, as someone who perhaps was going through some emotional problems, but not to the extent where anyone really truly believed he would be a danger to himself or other people, and although the deputies were asked to check on him, they were actually asked to check on hum by our mental health department, subsequent to a report that had been received from a third party, and subsequent to a follow-up call with his mother. they did that, we did that, went out and checked him, but the deputies that interacted with him didn't feel as though he was a dapger to himself or other people. he was articulate. he was polite. he was timid. he told the deputies that he was having social problems here, that he was unlikely to actually
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continue in school here, but that he was fine and he was not going to hurt anyone or himself, and in fact, he, you know, was quite timid, and quite shy in his interaction with our deputies. >> sheriff, you had said earlier he was treated by a variety of health care professionals. can you give us any specifics what he was being treated for or the medication you just mentioned, do you know what medication that was? >> you know, i can't. it's mentioned in the 141-page document that he left that i'm sure that you have, but i can't tell you what that medication was off the top of my head. >> had he ever been institutionalized for his problems? >> not that we're aware of, and there was no indication in his autobiographical account of his life, and his ultimate plan to
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exact this day of retribution, as he called it. nothing to indicate that that was the case. >> early on in this, and i'll ask actually how early on, the "my twisted world" this 141-page document and that day of retribution video, how early on after the shooting did you receive those and were those dpic given to you or did your investigators seek those out? >> we actually received both of them quite soon after the incident began. he had sent a fairly large number of people copies of that manifesto, and we had seed it from an allied law enforcement agency that had, the santa barbara police department who had actually obtained a copy of it, and as this incident was essentially, right after it had unfolded we received that information, and the indication
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that there was the now quite notorious video in which he, in a chilling manner, indicated what he was going to, what he was about to do. so we actually had it fairly soon after this started. >> how long before the shooting did he send it out? >> you know, i don't know exactly, but it was very shortly before the shooting that it was actually disseminated. >> sheriff, i'm sure that you have seen an awful lot in your profession. have you ever seen something like this, and then so quickly gotten such a back grouped on the suspect, in this case, from the suspect himself? is this as bizarre to you, i guess, as it seems to us? >> no, it's pretty rare that you receive an autobiographical account that lays out not only the history of the suspect, obviously, in his terms and from
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his standpoint and viewpoint, but also a diary of sort, as well as an indication of what his homicidal plan was, and that combined with the level of carnage that took place is something that has been unique in my career and i've seen a lot of instances, including quadruple and quintuple homicides, but it was, by far, the most diabolically planned and executed mass murder that i've certainly ever been involved in, certainly that we've ever seen here in santa barbara county. >> sheriff, is there any indication in any of this material as to how early and how long he was planning this attack? >> i'm sorry, i missed that again. one more time? >> is there any indication in any of the material that he sent
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or in your investigation where you can pinpoint how long ago he may have been planning this attack? >> it appears as though he was planning it for at least a year. >> in this document, "my twisted world," he mentions by name the video game "world of war craft" 41 times. i know because i went through and counted myself. and he says i guess pretty honestly that he'd become obsessed with this game and playing it and that's all he wanted to do. when you hear that and read that, what runs through your mind? >> well, i think that these video games that focus on violence and body count and just absolutely reprehensible activities are just an absolute -- they're a plague on our society, and i tnk they
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need to be a sort of a red flag if people are taking an inordinate amount of interest in this type of so-called entertainment. >> sheriff, besides the contact that your deputies had with him on april 30th, had there been any other interaction with your department, any other calls for police service there where he lived? >> we had two other documented cases where we came into contact with him. one of them was in the fall of 2013, in which he was injured and at a hospital, and a uc police officer who was assigned to the isla vista foot patrol contacted him at the hospital. he explained he had been at a party at isla vista. he had been injured by he claimed to being pushed off of a balcony or a ledge at a location
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on del playa. he had injured his ankle. he had a number of other injuries as well, claimed we been beaten up. as the officer investigated it, it appeared as though, in fact, he may have been the aggressor in that instance and had actually tried to push some other people off of this ledge and himself was pushed off. the case was actually suspended, pending some further leads, and it neve went anywhere in terms of any kind of criminal prosecution. there was another instance in january of 2014 in which he called our agency to report that one of his roommates had stolen three candles from him, and there apaurparently was some evidence that was the case. he effected a citizens arrest. the roommate was actually arrested and booked into our jail, released on a citation, and subsequently a petty theft charge was filed against the
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roommate. those were the three instances that we know of, where we've had previous contact, where we had previous contact with suspect rodger. >> santa barbara sheriff bill brown, we so appreciate you taking time to kind of help us fill in some of these blanks that we've been wondering about, as i'm sure everybody's been wondering about, but we know you've got a job to do. we want to let you go do it but thank you so much for being with us. >> thank you very much for having me. >> thank you. >> mike brooks is going to stick around with us and we'll bring crim nalgz james allen fox in the conversation. even with the 141-pages and the seven-minute video there are so many questions. we'll try get some answers. stay right here. this is the stom sea captain: there's a storm comin narrator: that whipped through the turbine which poured... surplus energy into the plant which generously lowered its price and tipped off the house which used all that energy to stay warm through the storm.
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welcome. 22 minutes past the hour. i know this morning we're all sitting here and we have a lot of questions about this suspect in this case, the shooter.
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elliot rodger, 22 years old, and were there any signs that he was as disturbed as it turns out he was. let's bring in criminologist and "boston globe" columnist james allen fox. >> we're also joined by hln law enforcement analyst mike brooks sticking around throughout the show. police say a family member reached out to officials to check on rodger's welcome april 30th, weeks ago. they went to his home, they say that he was timid, he was okay, he was just fine. mike, i'm coming to you first. is this something that should have been left up, we now know to deputies with santa barbara county sheriff's office? >> they'll do the welfare check, it came from apaurntly a relative of his through the mental health people to the sheriff's office and when the deputies go out, in california there's what they call a 5150 hold, involuntary psychiatric
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hold but at the time that you go out and interview the person, you had to decide whether or not they seemed like they are a danger to themselves or others. now, he said he told the deputies he was having some problems in his social life, he probably wouldn't be coming back to school next year and the sheriff said he was timid, polite, courteous, so again he was able to fool the sheriff's deputies who went out to check on him because he at that time was not exhibiting any behavior that they would have deemed that he was a danger to himself or others. >> okay, i want to, in addition to this chilling video we've been talking about, let's read another ex-kerpt from the manifesto, it's one of those that popped out at us, "every day that i spent at my college, the more ininterior and invisible i felt. i felt like an inferior mouse whenever i saw guys walking with beautiful girls. i had already worked so hard on my two classes i couldn't quit
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just then. the only way i could gain a boost in my self-esteem was to buy better looking clothes." james, what do you make of that? >> well, this is typical of mass killers who feel that they're the victim. they feel insignificant. they feel everyone else is picking on them, getting the advantage, and they are looking for some justice. in fact, mass murderers tend to see themselves as the good guy who's prevailing over evil and if you read in his writings, and i hate calling it manifesto, it sort of elevates the importance. you read in his document, in his diary he talks about himself as being almost like a god, who is going to prevail over the animals of the world. so what he's trying to do is to compensate for his feegz lings inadequacy. at the end of the day, at the end of his life, being the victor, being the good guy who wins over everyone else to end
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in justice. >> all teenagers at some point feel this, feel rejection. he said he was a virgin until he was 22. >> we've all felt inferior, rejected. >> what is the extra variable and how can people identify that? >> well, you can't identify it. that's the problem. we want to talk about red flags, really only yellow flags that turn red only after the blood is spilled. that this fellow is really not so indistinguishable from thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands of others out there who feel the same, but will not take a gun and start shooting. there is no way that we can identify, there's no way that that we can predict. after the fact, hindsight is 20/20, we can say the police should have done something. there's no way on earth for us to identify this individual or others like him as being a danger. >> one of the things that when we talk about, mike, you were
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talking about this, the folks that went, the sheriff's deputies that went and talked to him and they said he was polite, is acting or being able to cover up what's going on, i have to think, one of the characteristics of these kinds of mental issues, and is there any way to recognize somebody's saying one thing and doing another, or to hone in on the fact that they're acting and maybe they don't really believe what they're putting out there? james? >> no. some individuals in this situation will be visibly angry. you can't necessarily arrest hem because they're angry or disrespectful to the police and others will be very skillful at presentation of self. this is obviously a bright individual. you can see that from his writing. we'd like to call him a madman, but hardly the ravings of a madman. it's the rantings of someone who
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feels angry. but not crazy, and i think we have to distinguish someone who is deranged versus someone who is disturbed. emotionally disturbed, yes. mentally deranged? i don't think so. certainly not to the point that we would see him as clearly a danger to self or others. lots of people knew him. no one anticipated that this would be the result, and that's the challenge in situations like this. >> all right yu, james alan fox and mike brooks, gentlemen, thank you both so much for being here. another big story happening today, something people have been looking forward to for months now, this big election in ukraine. people are voting right now. they're choosing a new president but in parts of the country, ballots have been burned. at university of phoenix your education is built to help move your career forward. here's how: we work with leading employers to learn what you need to learn so classes impact your career. while helping ensure credits you've already earned pay off.
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