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spelled out his rage in a manifesto, women. he says troubles with girls sent his life into a tail spin that e ended with the shootings. 13 people were injured before rogers took his own life. we're learning more about those victims. we have the story covered for you from all angles. let's start with sara. >> reporter: this community wants the world to concentrate on the victims and not the shooter. and the sheriff released the names of the three victims. there were six in moment, three more victims. he released the names of all of those victims were stabbed to death in the suspect's apartment. >> shots fired, shots fired. >> reporter: all six victims have not but identified. rogers roommates a 20-year-old
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and a 19-year-old found dead with multiple stab wounds inside the gunman's apartment along with another man. the three men students at the university of california santa barbara were rogers' first victims before taking off in his black bmw to this sorority house. >> i saw a gunshot wound to her abdomen and her side and one through her head. >> reporter: this is where police shot katherine cooper, killed right in the front yard. less than two blocks away, roger opens fire again at the deli mart, according to officials, killing a 20-year-old student. video captured customers diving and scrambling for cover. >> i'll never have another child. he's gone. >> reporter: cnn spoke to
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chris's father who blames the government for a lack of gun control. >> i can't tell you how angry i am. it's just awful. no parent should have to go through this. no parent, to have a kid die, my kid died because nobody respo responded to what happened at sanny hook. those parents lost little kids. it's bad enough i lost my 20-year-old, but i had 20 years with my son. >> reporter: the shooting spree injuring over a dozen more before the 22-year-old took his own life. and you can hear the devastation in that parent's voice. other parents also talking about how much this hurts them and the community itself has been looking at all of these different victims, six in total, all students who were trying to
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find their way in the world. their lives cut short too soon. >> we have to honor and remember those lives as much as we possibly can. sara, our thanks to you. when you see something this awful and tragic, it does beg the e question, were warning signs missed. there were actions taken along the way. police paid elliot roger a visit after his mother expressed concern about videos on his youtube page. this was the same page where roger posted his chilling final video sending his parents on the desperate race to find him. pamela brown has that part of the story. >> good morning to you, jon. as elliot roger was on his rampage, his parents were in a mad scramble to find him after receiving his chilling manifesto in an e-mail and seeing a video on youtube. as they were on their way to
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santa barbara, their worst nightmare came true after they heard what their son did. >> tomorrow is the day of retribution. a day in which i will have my revenge against humanity, against all of you. >> reporter: this chilling video shows the 22-year-old college student who police say killed 6 and injured 13 in the shooting and stabbing spree. this day of retribution a plan he outlined in a 137-page manifesto obtained by a cnn affiliate. roger wrote all those beautiful girls i desired but can never have because they despise and loathe me, i will destroy. a family friend says roger sent it called "my twisted world" before terrorizing the campus. he wrote, i will kill them all
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and make them suffer just as they have made me suffer. it is only fair. rogers' mother discovered the threat in her e-mail at 9:17 that evening. she discovered her son's last youtube video. >> i will slaughter every single spoiled stuck up blond [ bleep ] i see in there. >> reporter: she called 911, the parents frantically racing to santa barbara. both parents enroute when they heard the news they were too la late. >> there was a black colored bmw. >> reporter: on sunday the atf and county sheriffs office searched the mother's home. rogers parents feel a a pivotal moment was missed last month. six police officers conducted a
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well being check after his mother discovered other videos he posted online documenting his loneliness and misery. but officers found nothing alarming during their check. roger expresses his def stating fear that police discovered his plan. i would have been thrown in jail, denied of the chance to exact revenge on my enemies. i can't imagine a hell darker han that, he wrote. he was visiting therapists on and off since he was 8 and in high school practically daily. right before the killing spree, he was seeing two therapists describing him as reserved to a daunting degree, but the 22-year-old didn't appear to have violent tendencies and never expressed any fascination in guns. and on his blog, he portrayed himself as an affluent young man, a son of an assistant direct for the "the hunger ga s
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games" series. he said he had a hard time fitting in. a deeply disturbed individual. >> thank you so much. joining us to discuss this is ryan booth, he's the manager of the iv e deli who was working at the time of the shooting. that's where one of the victims was killed. ryan, thank you so much for joining us this morning. first off, let me ask you, are you doing okay this morning? >> as well as can be expected. >> you were in the deli friday night. the shooter kbets out of his car and opens fire. >> no, the shooter never got out of his car. >> tell me what happened then. >> myself, it was a typical three-day weekend. a lot of people go home, which honestly very thankful because
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it could have been far worse because that time of night we normally have 40 to 50 customers in the store waiting on food, coming in to get drinks before they go out to enjoy their evening. i was at the front counter with my cashiers, they were helping some customers. i was prepping some deliveries. and a group came in. and we heard a pop. and we have fire crackers and bike tires that go off. the second shot went off and we all realized what it was and we all got down. a third one went off and then four more in quick su session came. i look ed out and see the black car outside. and the last four shots were aimed in the direction of the
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cashiers and myself. because i happen to look outside. you can see in the video that you guys have shown where the glass breaks. our coolers, that is in direct correlation to our counters. i know the counters have been shown as well. those holes were the last shots. then he drove off. but he never got out of the car and came in and shot. that is a misconception. that never happened. >> ryan, no one should have to live through something like this. such a terrible moment. what did it feel like as it was happeni happening? what was going through your head as you saw this and felt this unfold all around you? >> my first reaction was once everything triggered just like everyone else, get down. myself and multiple people yelled get down now. and as we got down after
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basically the second round when everyone realized what was going on, everyone got down and then the other shots. my next concern was my people. my cashier, my cooks, my delivery guys who were thankfully not there, that everyone was okay. and then calling 911. making sure everything, calling the owner, letting him know what was going on with the situation. letting him know there was a situation because this is something you just don't expect. you can never expect this to happen, not here. >> it should never happen, not there. not everywhere. ryan, let many ask. i don't know if you have had a chance to see this manifesto that this man wrote, i don't know if you have had a chance to see any of the horrible videos posted online before the shooting. do you feel that you need an
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explanation for why this happened? what do you need here? >> no, i don't need an explanation. it's unfortunately a very sad situation that no explanation can ever justify. it doesn't matter. i will never look at the manifesto, i can't -- all that does is justify his means. and this is something that has no justification. you can't glorify it in any way. that's why we have to as a community we have to stand up and be strong and try to move on. that's why we opened up again to let people know that we're stronger than this. we can be better and move on. >> ryan, you are strong. ryan booth, thank you so much for being with us this morning.
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we do wish you all the best going forward. appreciate you being here. right now, we want to talk about president obama heading back to washington for memorial day after a surprise visit with u.s. troops in afghanistan. he will speak at arlington national cemetery as he prepares for a speech at west point later this week. >> reporter: in the midst of the v.a. hospital scandal, the president appears in afghanistan before the troops. this was a few hours long trip. he was briefed on operations there. his adviser says the real purpose of this was to be able to thank the troops for their service in person and just before he makes some big decisions on what america's continued role in afghanistan will look like. so he got some big cheers when he told the soldiers that will
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likely be their last tour of duty, but bigger cheers when he said this. >> the transition will be complete and afghans will take full responsibility for their security and our combat mission will be over. america's war in afghanistan will come to a responsible end. >> the president didn't mention the v.a. scandal by name, huh bu he seemed to allude to it when he talked about america's sacred obligation to take care of its wounded wariers. >> the significance of today and that growing and widening scandal with the v.a., michelle, thank you for looking at that with us. we want to talk weather because people will be thinking about grilling today. hopefully doing it. jennifer gray is here keeping track of the forecasts across the nation. how are things looking? >> things are looking pretty quiet. the only trouble spot is going to be in texas. that's going to be in wichita
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fa falls and lubbock, you're included in that. even the possibility of an isolated tornado. keep your eye on the sky if you're in texas. we're seeing rain in southwest texas through san antonio heading to the east. isolated amounts of five inches of rain in central texas. so a lot of it is coming down. luckily it should be clearing out in the next day or so. the place to be, the northeast, where you are 87 degrees today in new york city. it is going to be hot, but it is going to be sunny. i think after the winter that we have had, a lot of folks are excited about a good holiday forecast. los angeles also looking good. unfortunately still staying dry, but folks that do have plans outdoors, it's going to stay that way. 73 degrees the temperature perfect. >> looking pretty good with the
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exception of the hailstorms. after memorial day, you're not allowed to have hailstorms. we'll talk to you later. coming up next on "new day," results are in from ukraine's presidential election. voters came out in droves. one candidate already claiming victory, but will the results be respected? this was unbelievable. it came down to the final few laps in the indy 500. one of the closest in history. who came away with the check rerred flag? we'll tell you, right after the break. ♪ norfolk southern what's your function? ♪
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welcome back. to ukraine now where violence has emerged z a day after the country elected a new president. officials suspending flights after a gunman stormed the terminal building. this as one candidate is cla claiming victory. they say he won by more than half the vote, but the vote is not free of controversy.
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chief correspondent jim shociut is live from kiev. >> reporter: we flew out of that airport yesterday so literally getting out to the capital under the gun. we saw a lot of the violence in the east and the the effect it had on the voting. we went to a number of polling stations a that had been forcibly shut down, shut down at gunpoint, people threatened and that violence was enough to keep most people away from the polls, but not everyone. 15% turnout neighboring the eastern province that's had most of the violence. when you look at the rest of the country, turn out much higher in the capital and in the west. you can see that there were with reduced managed expectations that against the odds, ukraine managed in very difficult circumstances to pull off something of a successful election and you're seeing now
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people already euniting around man who made his money making candida candy. saying his first priority is integration with europe. >> speaking of europe, i know all eyes on the west are watching what's going on there. what's the response pr the u.s. been about the election results and do we have an idea of what is next in terms of american involvement in the conflict? >> reporter: well, it's a good question. a lot is riding on these elections for the u.s. as well. they have been sort of saying if this election is successful we can move forward and the next round of sanctions was predicated on disrupting the election. if they judge that russia had impeded the election, they were going to bring sectorial sanctions. but when we have been speaking to lots m of ukrainians, they have been disappointed so far by
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support from the west including the u.s. saying they have heard words but not seen much action. i spoke with the u.s. ambassador to ukraine and here's how he answered those concerns. >> how do you answer those doubts from ukrainians who say they have heard a lot of words from washington but haven't seen a lot of action? >> have to work with the europeans. nothing will help build stability better than signing this association agreement, moving towards a closer institutional relationship with europe and we have to work closely,brussels, the united states, paris, london to keep pressure on russia. >> pressure on russia, but the new leader of ukraine saying cooperating with russia will be a priority for his government going forward, but he wants russia to respect the results of the election. >> jim sciutto traveling there in ukraine, thank you pr joining
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us and bringing us the latest. a big sports story. oklahoma city surge ibaka returned from injury. joe carter has more. this was like a willis reid type of thing. >> i like that. he's key here, john. surge ibaka is key getting them back in the series. originally he was said to miss the rest of the playoffs because of a nagging calf injury, but friday they suddenly activated him. some are saying this was a mind game on the part of the thunder. but he made a huge impact offensively. he scored 15 points on the night. but more importantly, it was his defense that completely discombobulated the spurs offense. he had four blocked shots and an endless amount of energy. the spurs now lead the series 2-1.
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game four is tomorrow night on tnt. let's talk a little baseball. josh beckett through the first no-hitter of the 2014 season. his pitch count was adding up fastly. chase utley thought it was a ball and he walked. e struck him out looking and that's where the game would end. the 34-year-old earns his first career no-hitter. and a wild finish at the indianapolis 500 o. that's trending this morning. ryan hunter-reay beats out helio castroneves. hunter-reay is the first american to win since 2006. kurt busch did the double. he ran at the indianapolis 500 in the afternoon. . he placed sixth. and then at night he ran in the coca-cola 600 in nascar.
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he finished 40th. >> an average finish of 26th if you combine the two race there is. easy math. if you're looking for the positive. up ahead, could more have been done to prevent this latest killing spree. the gunman points to problems over time. we're going to talk to an expert on whether signs were missed along the way. and the pope in the world east toughest conflict trying to bring israelis and palestinians together in prayer at the vatican. could his efforts be a key step towards peace. wondering what that is? that, my friends, is everything. and with the quicksilver card from capital one, you earn unlimited 1.5% cash back on everything you purchase. not just "everything at the hardware store." not "everything, until you hit your cash back limit."
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us. the 22-year-old who went on a deadly rampage in california blamed women for his rage. in a detailed manifesto elliot rodger said he was bitter with envy and tried desperately to win the lottery. the manifesto sent to his parents, on a desperate search to find him but he had already started his assault. he killed 6, wounded 13 more before he took his own life. the question so many are asking, could this have been avoided?
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joining us is dr. jodi gould. good to have you. i'm sorry this is the topic we're discussing. somebody made the point we really want to focus on the victims, but so many of us are struggling to make sense of this. but we're looking for answers. let's talk to you about this first of all. we know there were signs. there were videos on youtube, we know there was this 137-page manifesto. we know that the parents were concerned, there was therapy. offic officers showed up and did a wellness check. something was missing. in your estimation as a professional, what was missing? >> there were clearly red flags and clearly a supportive family and a psychiatric team that tried to intervene, but it wasn't enough. to me there was some kind of breakdown of communication. when the family and therapist reached out for help and called 911, the police came, what was
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the right thing to do. the next step should have been to trigger some kind of broader evaluation that could have brought everything together. what happens a lot is care gets fragmented and it's not clear to me that an urgent psych evaluation happened. >> this young man was under the care of therapists from a very young age. again, check, that was good, that was the right thing. when would that kind of evaluation been made? >> when the therapist and family called 911 and saw the videos and the police came, there was a degree of evaluation came because the police came to his home. the next step would have been gone beyond the police interviewing him. it needed trained professionals interviewing him. >> let's talk about the wellness check. are they the right team to go into a wellness check or is this something that needs to be reevaluated? >> they are the right team to do
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a risk assessment. >> if somebody is in danger of hurting themselves or others, obviously. >> it's reasonable to send the police out to be sure it's safe. what happened next is there should have been a mobile crisis team is when a team comes to the home or he was brought into an emergency room. >> i want to pick that up in a second. when the police went in, they said he presented as polite and reasonable and no red flags to them. if there's no red flags, should there still be a follow-up? >> there should be a psychiatric follow-up. there probably should have been a case manager assigned. with younger people we would have been assigned a case manager to try to see if we could have intervened. >> the other aspect is the parents. you're in a desperate situation. this is your child, someone you love, but they realize this child of theirs was a concern and potentially a danger. what else can a parent do? >> this is a really hard one.
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i think when you're a minor, there's a lot more you can do. had this person been 17 years old, they could have done a great deal. >> this is a 22-year-old college sunt. >> it sounds like he started to plan this when he left home. they did everything they could. i'm sure they are wishing they could have done more, but he had treatment. they expressed concern. the mom was in communication with the therapist. it's hard to say what more they should have done. >> we don't know what went on in the therapy sessions. it sounds like he has multiple therapists. >> it's not uncommon for psychiatrists who prescribe medication and another therapist. but we don't know how coordinated the treatment team was. >> what do you do if you have a patient that's sitting there with you as their medical professional who says, i don't
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have a problem, i'm managing it. how do you see they have a problem and step in? >> there's a a whole bunch of things you do. if you think that someone is homicidal or suicidal in any way, you report it. the next step is you assess for firearms. if someone is in my office or in the emergency room and i'm concerned for any reason about suicide or homicide, my next question is do you have access -- are there kbuns in your home? the next piece is the digital footprint. if you have concerns about a family member or a friend and they don't want help, the digital footprint can be ka real window into their psyche. >> which it was, but it was too late. jodi gold, thank you so much pr helping us try and see what went wrong here. >> thank you so much for having me. >> our pleasure. let's get to christine roman, who has a look at our
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president to attend a prayer summit. we want to break this down. peter, let me start with you. the peace process in the middle east is kaput, is nowhere right now. can this gesture from the pope, while highly symbolic, can it do anything? does this represent the pope being naive? >> it's a powerful move. it reminds the world this is an issue that's of tremendous concern because of the holy land's importance to three faiths, but he did not invite the prime minister. he invited the israeli president, so that's a ceremonial role. >> it's interesting, we saw the pope visited west bank, met with
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palestinian leaders before he crossed into israel. the first pope to visit palestine before israel. powerful, what does it say to you? what are your thoughts it's this pope doing this? >> e we know this pope is really concerned about justice and oppression of people who don't have a voice. that powerful image of him going to that wall, that separation wall, which some have called a wall of oppression, he just stood there and put his head against it. what he was praying about was clear. i think what he's say iing is w need to focus on this as a human rights justice issue. there has to be a two-state solution. the vatican has said this for a long time. this pope wants to be part of the people who break that. >> i'm wondering how you think this is being received there. so many times when people visit that region, there's a sense of equivalen
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equivalence. going to that wall, that separating wall and kissing it, there almost can be no equivalence inside israel itself. how is this being viewed? >> there will be some in israel who will be unhappy about. it compares to the jews. but i think the pope balanced that quite effectively today not only going to israel's holocaust museum but also going to lay a wreath at the founder of zionism. and laying a wreath at a memorial for jewish victims of terrorism. so the pope managed to affirm the dignity and suffering of both sides. >> the gestures o of this pope are so scrutinized as something r very simple, not even a word spoken about would he make
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progress in the middle east peace process. that's what's so remarkable about this pope. >> we didn't expect him to enter into the syria conflict like he did. he said no military intervention. dial this down. then he not only did that, but he said to the people, you cannot have military intervention and continue to kill people in the name of any kind of justice. then he had a day of prayer and fast i fasting for an end to the conflict in syria. that's when everything began to be dialled down. so some said the prayer help ed. the pope was instrumental in syria laying down those arms for awhile. >> i think what sticks to me is both these leaders have agreed to come to this prayer summit. they have agreed to as well, to me that seems a positive step that all three men, even though it may be seen to some as widely symbolic, that's significant.
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>> the opinion of christians worldwide, there's obviously no more powerful christian around the world than the pope, is very significant. it will be defined by how christians perceive the balance of claims here. so it is in both sides' interest to seem to be making the maximum effort. >> 77 years old seems to be no barrier he's not willing to at least address or stand right up against. it will be interesting to see what happens here and elsewhere as this pope travels the world. great to have you here with us. ahead on "new day," he lost his only son in the santa barbara killing spree. he's calling on lawmakers to make sure no other parent goes through such agony. we have the interview with christopher martinez's father comie ining up.
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california including his aggressive attitude towards women. he says you girls have never been attracted to me. i don't know why you girls aren't attracted to me, but i will punish you all for it. i don't know what you don't see in me. the killings have sparked quite an online conversation generating the #yesallwomen. tweets criticizing society for letting men feel entitled and citing examples of women being harassed or even worse. joining us, a psychotherapist. thank you so much for joining us to have this conversation. it seems to be one that is really generating a lot of energy online. i want to read a couple tweets from both of you and get your reaction. because every single woman i know about a story about a man feeling entitled to access to her body every single one.
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another, because we tell girls to keep an eye on their drinks at a party instead of telling guys to not put drugs in them. this hash tag has got an lot of energy online. what do you make of the conversation that's sparking? >> there's a lot of blaming. it's never all women. had seems like he's constantly saying why don't you trust me, why don't you like me, and you're bad because you don't. instead of having insight to his own behavior. there's a social disconnect. even though he's intelligent enough to make some interesting enough observations, the problem with him is an inner personal one, his inability to understand interactions with others that really produces this gross failure. >> talking about the mentality of the shooter, do you think the
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conversation that's being sparked from this tragedy is a productive one? a step in the right direction? >> i think some of it is. everybody has been a part of a conversation in which you're talking about an instance of ma sagny and sexism. but not all men are like this. this is women's response to say, that's right, not all men are sexist, but all women have experienced sexism at some point this their lives. all women have been objectified at some point in their lives and there's a problem with our culture where men feel entitled to women's bodies and we need to have a conversation about that. that's what's starting to happen right now. >> do you see this as a psychosis that has nothing to do with that? it's another side of what's what happened? >> one of the reasons why elliot hates women is e he can't figure out how to be with one or he's
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hating them because he's feeling rejected. but he's not talking about misogyny. he cared about himself and yet didn't have the insight to figure out how to make his life work pause he was an ill man. >> he may not have known that. often times women have felt that whether it's mistreatment, ill treatment, being not considered sometimes the person that's v k victimizing them may not be aware of the experience the woman is having. >> i don't think he came in believing he was a month knowled soj nis. you can examine his language. he went to college feeling like he was entitled to sex. he said this is what happens in college. you have sex and have fun and women are denying me this.
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therefore, i will punish them. he said going into the sorority house and slaughtering the women in there will be the ultimate alpha male. he wants to be o dominant over women and if i can't have their bodies, this is how i'm going to show them i'm dominant over them. that's the ultimate month sojny. >> they feel powerless in relation to women. and that's why they hate them and have to put them down because they do understand a woman's power. it's very disruptive to them to feel that they are not in control and powerful. so that's what we saw with elliot. >> this hash tag, there's a bunch of them. very powerful. here's another one. somebody quoting the canadian poet. men are afraid that women will laugh at them, women are afraid that men will kill them.
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this is from may 25th. but that's widely being quoted online. it's a frustrating notion to think women are feeling this. how do we get men involved in the conversation? how do we have constructive conversations so that in o 2014 women are not feeling this way? >> i don't think all women feel this way, but if it a woman does feel this way, then to put those feelings into words and let's start the conversation and figure out how women who do feel this way can feel more equal in terms of their power or confront a man who does make them feel inferior. just talking about it is very helpful. >> last thought? >> i just think we need to change the culture. women are talking to their
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daughters about how to avoid being raped and not talking to their sons about not raping. >> thank you very having this conversation here on "new day." we certainly have a lot going on on this story. plus a lot of other news on this memorial day so let's get to it. >> he looked directly at me and talked to me and shot at me. >> white occupant, a male wearing a white shirt. >> she got on the phone with her mother and was telling her mother about how much she loved her and she wasn't sure she was going to make it. >> tomorrow is the day of retribution. >> shots fired, shots fired. >> it's very apparent he was mentally disturbed. >> i can't tell you how angry i am. no parent should have to go through this. good morning, everyone. welcome back to "new day." chris and kate are off today.
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another search for answers after another killing spree here in the u.s. friday night, 22-year-old elliot rodger stabbed three roommates before getting in his car and firing at targets around santa barbara leaving six college students dead before turning the gun on himself. now 137-page manifesto has emerged sent out moments before the rampage. in it he blames women for his troubles. pamela brown is in los angeles with the details. good morning, pamela. >> reporter: good morning to you, john. apparently elliot rodger sent that chilling manifesto to a couple dozen people including his parents and his therapist right before he went on his rampage. this is according to a family friend of the family. the mother first saw the manifesto and knew something was wrong immediately. she went on his youtube page and
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saw the retribution video where he talked about slaughtering women at the local sorority house and there was a desperate search for elliot rodger by his parents and therapist. their worst nightmare came true when they learned there was a shooting and their 22-year-old son was behind it. of course, elliot rodger had a long history of mental health issues according to a family friend and had been seening a therapist on and off since he was 8 years old. they talk about a pivotal moment back in april when police checked on him. the mother was concerned because she had found some youtube videos where he talked about being lonely. police didn't pounding in too alarming. he didn't seem like he was a dangerous to himself or to others. the case was closed. his parents tell the family friend that that was a missed opportunity it, but they are asking themselves, what more
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they could have done to prevent this. john? >> i'll take it here, pamela. thank you for that. one of the six people killed friday, 20-year-old christopher martinez. he was in the deli when bullets came flying in. his father richard has been outspoken and very emotional about the gun laws and politicians who are responsible for repeat the violence. we had an opportunity to sit down with mr. martinez who was incredibly emotional. >> he's our only child. he died on friday. i'm 61 years old now. i'll never have another child. he's gone. so the reason i'm doing this right now is to try u to see if we can do anything to make my son's death mean something. because that's all we've got. >> he's not going to grow up to
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be a man to work in the world. what did we lose? >> he was articulate, determined, nice, and tough. if there's all these things in the media about the shooter and there's nothing about the victims, then it sends the wrong message. and people need to understand that real people died here and they need to put faces and names and histories to the people who died to make it real for them. >> the politicians after sandy hook swore they would do something. >> we're all proud to be americ americans, but what kind of message does it send to the world when we have such -- such rutterless bunch of idiots in government. i can't tell you how angry i am.
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it's just awful. and no parent should have to go through this. no parent, to have a kid die because in this kind of a situation, what has changed? have we learned nothing? these things are going to continue until somebody does something. so where the hell is the leadership? they don't take care of our kids. my kid died because nobody respond responded, but i got 20 years with my son. that's all i had, but those people lost their children at 6 and 7 years old. how do you think they feel and trying to figure out who is
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doing anything for them now? who is standing up for those kids who died back then in an elementary school and why wasn't something done? it's outrageous. >> powerful, powerful emotions there. joinings us now to discuss what went on is the manager of silver greens restaurant. tell me how this all unfolded before you and what it was like to be there during these horrific moments. >> yeah, sure, hi. well, at the time, i was in the back office area of my work and that's when we heard the gunshots. we didn't register them as gunshots. not until one of my co-workers came up running and she started
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saying those were gunshots, those were gunshots. so i went to the side of the restaurant where we have a lot of windows. i saw a lot of officers with their guns pointing out just spreading from business to business it seems like and pointing their guns towards the deli. that's when i figured something bad happened. i didn't know what specifically yet and i started assuring customers away from the windos,s away from the doors because we have a lot of glass. the last thing ucht is for anybody to get hurt. and it was just a very tense moment. just trying to usher people away and people were coming in from all over inside the restaurant trying to find shelter.
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we have a kitchen door that leads to the outside. we had a group of 10 or 15 students, we had a father with children trying to come inside so we opened the door for them and we were trying to find shelter within our vicinity. and i went outside to check what we can do, ask law enforcement what we can do and i saw the firemen trying to resuscitate the victim and right there i figged it's not my place to be there. it was a very tense situation because we had a lot of people who were skrared. i was certainly scared and confused. we were just trying to keep the peace and the calm as much as anybody for the sake of the kids that were inside the restaurant who were visibly shaken. >> tough, tough thing to kbo
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through something like this a violent moment like this. you doing okay this morning? >> yeah, thank you. i'm doing fine. it's been a difficult weekend for many of us who work or live here, especially for the victims' families. i'm doing fine for now, thank you. it's a tough situation. >> when did it sink in? >> i guess the day after, the next morning. i left home shocked. i couldn't sleep. and i think not until the next day when i went to the vigil that it sunk in. the tragedy that really occurred and how students passed away or gunned down. >> students were killed. >> that's when it hit me. >> students were killed there in front of you. that's a horrible, horrible
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thing. there's so many people in your community this morning asking questions and looking for answers, trying to wonder. something could have been done days ago, weeks ago, months ago. have you had any time to think about that? >> to some degree, i have thought about that, but it's one of those things where it happened. what can i do now? the most i can do is just try to be a better person and try to -- at the vigil they were talking about being loving to everybody, being there for everybody. we're not just students, we're a whole community of families and students alike. so if anything in order maybe just being more loving, caring towards others. especially those who might be suffering. might help out to prevent
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further tragedies like the ones that happened this friday. >> daniel, stay strong, my friend. the people there need you, your friends and co-workers need you. we appreciate you being with us. >> thank you. >> let's go to christine now for the day's other headlines. breaking overnight, three people missing after a mud slide hits colorado. it's four miles long, two miles wide, 250 feet deep many places. the area is considered so unstable it's been blocked off. people aren't being allowed in. emergency crews believe the whole ridge has been sliding for most of sunday after heavy rains. moments ago president obama returned to the u.s. after a surprise visit to afghanistan. the president telling troops the u.s. has a sacred obligation to take care of wounded veterans. he thanked the troops for their presence as the u.s. prepares for withdrawal at the end of the year.
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president obama plans to lay a wreath at the tomb of the unknowns to mark e memorial day. it's among many ceremonies honoring our nation's fallen hero heroes. hundreds will join service members to visit the air and space museum. >> thank you so much. up next on "new day," we are learning more about the killer in california from his hate-filled manifesto. the questions are, could action have been taken sooner? we're going to talk with an expert, coming up.
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welcome back to "new day." new information on what led a 22-year-old to go on a deadly rampage. we're learning more about his long hate-filled manifesto that he posted right before the shooting. the video and text were so disturbing that his parents when they view ed it, they immediatey set out to find him. sadly failing in their efforts. joining us is one of the top forensic psychologists in the nation contributing to propose legislation to make it easier for parents to get help for their mentally-ill children. that was an issue at play here. give us an idea what help exists now. what assistance can they get now? >> the big disconnect that we have about mass killing is that we continue to look at it as a crime of person who snaps and who is obviously deteriorating.
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what he has laid out for us and what he's written and we have already seen had in other instances where people have an opportunity to talk about what they have done and survived. in my experience is that folks don't snap. this is the end of a fuse that's lit a long time earlier and the significance of it is you have someone who is a social failure, let's put mental illness aside, who decides this is my moment where everyone on cnn is going to be talking about me. people are going to see me as relevant. so here's someone who couldn't even pass a class and he puts together a 140-page manifesto. it's the idea that a person mobilizes so well to carry out a mass killing that he protects it and keeps it together for law enforcement. >> you said he couldn't pass a class, but he passed a screening by cops. what's so frustrating about this
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case and what differentuates? there were a lot of intervent n interventions from the parents, police, so when you have all those, shall we say, right things that happened, how can something still go terribly wrong and what can we do additionally then to stop it? how can we make this process even better? >> the disconnect is we have to understand that the aspiring mass killer is doing everything he can to protect the secrecy of his plan. so he will pull it together so if you interview him even as a seasoned law enforcement and he had a bunch of therapists, he was getting help. he can pull it together to protect the plan. he wasn't giving this fantasy to his therapists. he was keeping it close to the vest. so if we appreciate that someone is invested in protecting his plan of destructiveness as a life choice and ambition, then
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at the first sign that a disaster is brewing, parents know this is why the murphy legislation is significant. it gives parents additional say that if a commitment decision has to be made, a a parent can say i know my son. something terrible is about to happen. >> right now that's not what it is. right now if these parents, which sounds like they did, something is not right. these videos are concerning to me. a wellness check was done by police and that's where the disconnect seems to be. >> i know what it is to be a psychiatrist where making a decision where somebody can be composed as you, people are overreacting, i could have made the same call and parents know people who have an opportunity to see someone and watch their decline and we have to have legislation that makes it it easier for parents to have a direct say because when someone gets discharged, where do they
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go back? into the responsible and the domain of the parents. and families know. >> you're talking about e lowering the bar in some cases to get committed because that's the word we use here. lowering the bar to get committed to a psychiatric institution or at least to get som kind of care. widening the bar to include parents? >> i don't think lowering the bar, but expanding insight. the idea of danger to self, it's the idea of defining a notion. it's appreciating that there are all kinds of aspects of what defines dangerousness. a person who is falling apart, who is homeless, who is rapidly deteriorating and at risk to themselves. that doesn't necessarily represent lowering a bar. it's appreciating the broader parameters of when a person is truly falling apart. and as mr. martinez said, it shouldn't have to happen that we lose so many lives because
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someone can pull it together because he has good social skills. >> here's a good point, 22 years old living away from home. how much legal standing to people have if this is an adult refusing care. you can't force someone into getting help. >> people were committed into the hospitals all the time. and you're touching on something that the person who is invested in carrying out the mass killing doesn't want help. this is not what he's conveying to his therapist. hs a life ambition. it's i am a nobody. girls aren't. interested in me. i'm a social reject. this is going to make me larger than life. this is going to make me an l fa male. this is the thinking. you talk about the hash tag and the monpeople see the attention
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we're giving him and i don't like these people and this country or my boss. everybody has made him relevant. and so for folks who can't pass a class, can't get his career together this is what i'm going to do. he mobilizing, he plans it like nothing before. and if we come to appreciate that these people draw an incentive from things that make them larger than life, then we come to recognize that, okay, fine, they are not necessarily going to accept help. they don't want help. >> what's constructive about his writings and frustration and anger? >> it could be women. it could be blacks. it could be minorities. there's a common thread of a mass killer of blaming everyone else and what he lays out is that it starts early. parents, teach your children to accept personal responsibility.
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teach resilience, teach creativity. if those three parts are a part of every child's upbringing in america, a child never gets to a place where they blame others and that graduates into being glad that they suffer and throwing coffee on. them because of the level of resentment and fantasy of violence. it starts with a posture of blaming others and then latching on to people that one feels are the source of one's lack of ability to advance. so by the time a person gets to a place where they are blaming others and identifying with destruction, it's a matter of keeping the community safe. and others saw him as scary and that's why he was losing friends even among other social rejects. >> that's the other part of the conversation that does need to continue. we're not trying to glorify this man. we want to focus on the victims, want to get context to their
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lives and understand that we want to prevent this from happening again. thank you for being with you today. passionate words. next up on "new day," chuck hagel makes his feelings about the v.a. scandal known. it makes it sick to his stomach. we'll have that and much, much more when we go inside politics. we work with leading employers to learn what you need to learn so classes impact your career. while helping ensure credits you've already earned pay off. and we have career planning tools to keep you on track every step of the way. plus the freshman fifteen, isn't really a thing here. and graduation, it's just the beginning. because we build education around where you want to go. so, you know, you can get the job you want. ready, let's get to work.
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elliot rodger said he was bitter with envy and tried desperately to win the lottery. when he reached his breaking point, he sent his parents his manifesto. he killed 6, wounded 13 people before killing himself. billionaire petro poroshenko says european integration will be his first priority as ukraine's next president. he's leading all candidates with 54% of the ballots counted. officials suspended flights at the airport after separatist gunmen stormed the terminal building overnight. black smoke currently billowing from that airport. the first round of a two-day presidential election for egyptians. with the muslim brotherhood party band, critics are calling
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the vote legitimate. crews gaining an upper hand in a pair of wildfires. a blaze in northern arizona is 20% contained. folks in alaska are being urged to evacuate. crews say the fire there 20% contained. they have a lot of work to do to completely put out those flames. >> early fire season. >> it's so early. it's been so dry. you know that crews are taxed. budgets are taxed. it's not even june. >> it's a long weekend for most people. a vacation day for many. but politics never takes a vacation. let's go inside politics with john king. >> good morning to you. inside politics does not take a vacation. it begins on a sad note because of the shooting in california and the conversation about gun control that will follow. with me this morning to share insights, let's begin. we heard the father who lost his
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20-year-old son. he blames politicians and the nra for this. i want you to listen to senator blumenthal. it was in his state that newtown happened. he tried to get expanded background checks. senator blumenthal says in the wake of this massacre, it's time to try again. >> where the hell is the leadership? where the hell is these people we elect to congress that we spend so much money on? people are getting rich sitting in congress and they don't take care of our kids. my kid died because nobody responded to what occurred at sandy hook. those parents lost little kids. it's bad enough that i lost my 20-year-old, but i had 20 years with my son. >> that's richard martinez, you can see the father's emotion. if congress can't do this, congress will be complicit if we fail to act. we have seen this in the past where in the days and weeks
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after a tragedy, there's a lot of focus in washington and lawmakers say let's try to break the log jam. in an election year, do you see any possibility they could come up with a modest bill that expanded mel tan health funding or background checks or a trigger for somebody who has psychological problems? >> i wouldn't be optimistic on th that. because of the larger context on guns, rights advocates will put it many that context and will be hard to keep those democratic senators running in red states on board. you can see after sandy hook where the democratic establishment went all in and got nothing for it. >> you have this tragedy now. he's saying moderate republican from long island. but pete king says his party needs to kbet the message. even though the message may not be popular, we ought to be
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looking closely at it. could republicans lead this? or just be quiet and in the few weeks they hope this is forgotten. >> it's a frustrating situation because no one wants to see another situation happen like this. and frankly there's enough political will in washington to make that happen. even if you have pete king go to his leadership. i think we'll see another conversation on gun control on that funding for mental health that alex mentioned, but i'm not sure this year. >> wait, wait, wait. could the president help here if he came forward and said let's forget everything but mental health for you? could thaw get a narrow bill? a lot of democrats are running against republicans. mitch mcconnell's opponent is saying senator gridlock. wouldn't there be an opening to prove washington can work? >> i don't think anyone would
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believe him. gun rights advocates. there was some precedent for this. there was some emphasis around mental health. but i just don't see obama having enough credibility. >> let's move on to the president's secret trip over the weeke weekend. it takes a long trip to go to afghanistan. the president surprised us with a secret trip to visit the troops heading into this memorial day weekend. he was applauding the troops for their service. barack obama campaigned to end the iraq war and wind down the war in afghanistan. that's about to happen. listen. >> for many of you this will be your last tour in afghanistan. [ cheers ] and by the end of this year, the transition will be complete and afghans will take full responsibility for their security and our combat mission will be over. america's war in afghanistan will come to a responsible end.
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>> again, props to the president for taking that trip to give morale to the troops there. he talks about the war in afghanistan coming to a responsible end. there's still some giant question marks. because of the dysfunctional relationship with hamid karzai, america would like to leave a modest amount of troops, but that's still up in the air. they may have to negotiate with karzai's suck scessor? that worries a lot here in the community in washington who are saying the pentagon needs time to plan and put movements in place for what's going to be left behind after most troops are brought out of the country. they haven't been able to do that so there's concern how disconcerted that effort will be. >> then this it trip and that focus sets up the president's speech at west point on wednesday. his foreign policy has come under a lot of criticism.
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we assume the economy and health care issues are driving our politics. how important is it for the president at a time people are saying what is your policy in syria, what happened in ukraine, just try to get a reset or a refocus. >> this has been his strongest point if you ask people what they think of the president. foreign policy has been where he's been strongest, killed bin laden, winded down the wars in iraq and afghanistan. he wants to stop the losses to help his party in the midterms. >> eric shinseki is under fire because of the scandal at v.a. hospitals. but jake tapper had a conversation. listen to this. >> are you appalled when you see these stories? >> it makes me sick to my stomach. because it is a clear responsibility we have as a country, as a people to take care of these men and women and
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their families who sacrificed so much. i know systems are improving. i get that. but when you've got what we do know, and we do need to get the fact, let's see what happened, why it happened, how it happened, then we have to fix them. then we have to fix them. >> do you see sufficient urgency that bureau ra si numbs people in washington. you just surrender. do they have the attention now we can deal with the political ramifications later? the federal leadership ready to take on the bureaucracy? >> there is willingness on this issue in washington. what's important for people to know is that there have been problems and concerns about mismanagement problems plaguing the v.a. for years. if you sit on any committee, you hear about those. this seems to have really reached a fever pitch. it's something seen as a crisis.
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we have to do something now for women who serve. they are able to get the attention they need. >> they talked about this in oversight hearings for years. are they willing to shake the tree until they get the bad apples out? >> this requires some money and congress isn't interested in appropriating anymore money. that will be a big question. >> thank you for coming in on a holiday. the troops were happy to see the president. i think they were also happy with the special guest. brad paisley, who likes his vehicles. he will be driving that one around. put that right behind the bus. >> that's a good-looking vehicle. president obama joked about brad saying i'm here to introduce brad paisley. thank you so much, john. next up for us on "new day," in the wake of the deadly rampage, victims' families struggling to cope.
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we're speaking with a woman whose daughter survived the massacre at virginia tech. what lessons can be learned in this killing spree? also today our nation marks the day that we remember our fallen heroes. we're taking a look live at arlington national cemetery. the president will lay a wreath at the tomb of the unknowns later this morning. narrator: that whipped through the turbine which poured... surplus energy into the plant which generously lowered its price and tipped off the house which used all that energy to stay warm through the storm. chipmunk: there's a bad storm comin! narrator: the internet of everything is changing how energy works. is your network ready?"
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welcome back to "new day." a staggering new report on americans and prescription drug use. according to the department of health, the number of emergency room visits involving nonmedical use of xanax doubled between 2005 and 2011. when it comes to painkillers, americans use 99% of the world's vicodin. that tells me the u.s. must have a prescription drug problem. that's a startling, 99% of the world's vicodin. >> that's all that needs to be said. we are 5% of the world's population. we consume 99% of this particular type of pain pill. it's a remarkable thing. >> is it cultural? overprescription issue? what's going on? >> i have been fascinated by this. we have done a lot of digging. some of it there's been a big
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push o get doctors prescribed. so why would this particular product is it so much more of a concern? one is that about 15, 20 years ago there was this push cultu l culturally to treat pain as the fifth vital sign. heart rate, blood pressure, temperature, you would also get asked about pain. >> i remember seeing the signs with the happy faces. >> so everybody got asked about pain. even if it wasn't part of the reason they were in the doctor's office and seeing the doctor in the first place. we became adept at prescribing pain pills and no one should have pain if there's any concern at all. let's give them these powerful medicatio medications. >> sometimes you could be masking the problem. i have had two knee surgeries. painkillers have a time and a place, but how do you manage that with a patient? how do you deal with that?
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>> first o of all, 99% of this type of pain pill, 80% of all of the world's pain pills are consumed in the united states. a lot of other countries don't use the pain pills. they have the same problems we do here in the united states so there's a lot of alternative therapies. there's a message in there to the medical professionals to not so quickly go to the prescription pad. for the consumer, if i tell you in your medicine cabinet is an opiate, you have a derivative similar to heroin, if i put it to you like that -- >> i might take it more seriously. >> we're so trained to know that heroin is such a problem forgetting that many of the pain pills are the same active ingredients. someone dies every 19 minutes of an accidental prescription overdose. >> we have reported here on numerous cases here that often times it is an injury that somebody has and they are not
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setting out to have an addictive personality. but it's one of those slow sliding things that can sneak up on a person. >> it's a classic history. it's a male in his 30s that go in for back pain. they get their first prescription for a pain pill they have ever received in their life. within 36 months if they are going to die, hast how quickly it takes place. one of the problems is they start to do something called stacking. you take the pain pills and over time it loses the effectiveness. you develop a tolerance to it. six months is a good metric. you layer other medications and these things all stack on top of each other and depresses your respiratory. this is a powerful pain pill. had isn't something you stick in your medicine cabinet. when you're done with it, toss it. make sure you're not dipping into it. >> call it an opiate so people will take caution. >> it's the same sort of thing.
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these people are getting rich in congress and they don't take care of our kids. nobody responded to what occurred at sandy hook. those parents lost little kids. it's bad enough i lost my 20-year-old, but i had 20 years with my son. that's all that i had. >> almost too much to bare. this was a grief-stricken richa richa richard martinez. his son was killed in the california rampage. the pain is evident. he pleaded for a change to gun legislation. there are few that can relate to it. one of those who can relate to that kind of pain is a mother whose daughter survived the virginia tech massacre. that shooting prompted her to become the virginia state director of the coalition to top gun violence. good morning to you. thank you for joining us. let me ask, how is emily doing?
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>> emily is fine, thank you. she's doing well. she and most all the survivors are doing quite well. different story for those families whose loved ones were shot and killed with someone who should not have a gun. >> that brings us to today and the events over the weekend in that beautiful, wonderful community of santa barbara. tell me what your instinct with was and what you thought when you heard the news? >> it's just such a terrible tragedy and such a waste of life and a situation that in many instances can be avoided. there are things we can do that keep firearms from dangerous individuals and we're not doing them. we have got to do a better job. there are some policies and some efforts and some procedures we can take that would prevent persons at an elevated risk of gun violence to keep firearms away from them.
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there's more we should be doing and we can do it. >> you're involved in a lot of the work being done. i want to get to that in a moment. i want to take you back. it's difficult to watch mr. martinez. you can see his anger, his pain, his anguish. you got a phone call some seven years ago. give us an idea of what that was like to know that your child was in harm's way. >> well, you know, it's just indescribable and very difficult for any parent to get any call about their child. i recall the moment that my phone rang and i answered it. emily said, hi, mommy, i've been shot. it sent my family down a path of recovery that we're still on today. it's thinking about the families whose loved ones were killed is just horrific. i recall so much pain and devastation witnessing from a front row seat that pain and devastation. i thank god every day that emily
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is okay, but it is not the same for many, many families across america every day. >> and a tremendous amount of helplessness i can imagine. that must be so infuriating as a parent. >> i would imagine mr. martinez is in a place none of us can imagine. we cannot -- we can sympathize and lend compassion and prayers and support, but we can't know his pain. no one can know his pain. and it is a sad, sad state of affairs in america when we cannot live free from gun violence. we all deserve to be free from gun violence and there's more we can do and should do. >> your daughter's survival prompted you to get involved, to take action and you have been doing a tremendous amount of work. you have been involved with the brady campaign. you have been involved with the public safety, all sorts of programs. does it infuriate you, frustrate
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you, how does it make you feel when you see another event like this happen yet all of this work is being done? >> it is beyond frustrating. i will admit it's difficult and it's just brings out an emotion of such regret and sorrow for these families that have to go through this over and over and over again when we have some tools that we can give to the treating community who treat persons with mental illness, we can give some tools to our law enforcement and to our families. when families have someone in >> we were talking about that earlier with some medical professionals about the need to have legislation in place to help the mentally ill, but also to have the support for parents because we saw how this family, they had concerns, they went to get help, but there was a
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missing link that could have prevented this from happening. we as a society need to look at this differently, do we not? >> we do. but we have some solutions on the table right now. the consortium for evidence-based firearms policy released two reports in december, one at the state level and one at the federal level, both of them suggested that the threshold for removing firearms from a person suffering from mental illness currently -- under current law, is commitment. that threshold is probably too high for persons who are suffering and for families in crisis. we know and we suggest that, if you looked at a policy to consider gun violence restraining orders, much like -- >> like a domestic restraining order. >> yes, much like protective orders that perps in crisis in a
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domestic violence situation have available to them, let's give that to families in crisis. they could petition the court, have the firearms removed temporarily, mind you, until this person is evaluated and the situation is assessed and a treatment plan is determined. hindsight is always 20/20. but let's give persons and families and physicians and mental health treatment providers tools to deal with people in crisis. let's not wait for the threshold of commitment which is high in this country. let's give them tools now so we can temporarily prohibit persons suffering from having access or possession of firearms. we can do that in this country. it is a tool that is on the table right now that we are hoping legislators and families and persons in authority will look at and consider this tool. >> lori haas, we want to thank
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you for speaking with us. we know your heart and our hearts are with the parents of the children who lost children in santa barbara. we hope those injured are strong and happy and thriving as your emily is now. thanks so much for sharing your story. keep doing good work. >> thank you for having me. >> john? next up on "new day," cnn's jake tapper sits down with defense secretary chuck hagel and asks about the va scandal. the secretary says the controversy makes him, quote, sick to his stomach, but does he think va secretary eric shinseki can be shouldering the blame. a quick programming note, next thursday we're premiering a new series from tom hanks and gary gets man "the 60s." it changed the world from the space race to the cold war, free love, sive rights and so much more. be sure to watch or set your dvr for your premier of t"the 60s."
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why wasn't something done? it's outrageous. >> breaking overnight, we now know all six victims of the santa barbara shooting were college students. one of the fathers is speaking out. his powerful message to the country. >> new details on his killer's troubled past and his parents' desperate attempt stos find him before he began his rampage? our jake tapper interviews defense secretary chuck hagel on this memorial day. does he think enough is being done to help veterans. your "new day" starts right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com r p >> th>> this is "ne cuomp cuomo, kacuomo, kald a pereira. good morning. this is nude. kate and chris are off today. this morning the santa barbara community is at a complete loss
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to explain another incident of mass violence in the united states. in a 137-page explanation or manifesto, 22-year-old killer elliot rodger said stroubls with him is what sent him over the edge. six college students are dead, 13 others wounded. we begin with sara sidner in santa barbara, california. sara? >> reporter: michaela, look, we also know that the killer basically used whatever he could to try and take revenge on society, stabbing, shooting, running people down with his car. we also know the names now of the six victims. all six of them, we now know all of them were between the ages of 19 and 20 just trying to start their lives. >> shots fired, shots fired. >> reporter: all six victims in elliot rodger's campaign have been identified.
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20-year-old cheng hong and 19-year-old george chen found dead with multiple stab wounds inside the gunman's isla vista apartment along with 20-year-old weihan wang. the three men, students at the university of california santa barbara were, police say, rodger's first victims before taking off in his black bmw to this sorority house. >> i saw a gunshot wound to her abdomen and her side and one to her head. >> reporter: this is where police say he shot 22-year-old katherine cooper and 19-year-old veronika weiss killed right in the front yard. less than two blocks away, rodger opens fire again at a deli mart killing 20-year-old student christopher martinez. surveillance shows customers diving and scrambling for cover as the bullets flew.
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cnn's kyung lah spoke with his father who blames the government for a lack of gun control. >> i can't tell you how angry i am! it's just awful and no parent should have to go through this, no parent, to have a kid die. my kid died because nobody responded to what occurred at sandy hook. those parents lost little kids! it's bad enough i lost my 20-year-old, but i had 20 years with my son. that's all i'm going to have! >> reporter: the shooting spree injuring over a dozen more before, according to police, the 22-year-old took his own life. remember that there are 13 people who have been injured, many of them having broken bones. we know at least a few of them have been shot several times. they are still trying to recover. john? >> sarah ra, our thoughts are with them. whapt stands out among many
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other things is how clear the shooter made his motive before the rampage. not only did he write that manifesto, he sent it to his therapist, his parents, who tried to find him after seeing it and seeing disturbing videos on his youtube page. this all came less than a month after police visited elliot rodger at his apartment, so it does beg the question could more have been done? should more have been noticed. pam lebron has that part of the story. good morning, pamela. >> good morning. that is the big question. we spoke with a family friend who tell us elliot rodger's parents who said that was a missed opportunity back in april. we learned from the family friend that when rodger was on his deadly rampage, his parents were on a mad scramble to find him after receiving his chilly manifesto in an e-mail and discovering his retribution video on youtube. as they were on their way to santa barbara, they learned the horrific news that their son was
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behind the shooting there. >> tomorrow is the day of retribution, the day in which i will have my revenge against humanity, against all of you. >> reporter: this chilling video shows elliot rodger, the 22-year-old santa barbara college student who police say killed six and injured 13 in friday's mass shooting and stabbing spree. this day of retribution a plan rodger outlined in a 137-page manifesto obtained by cnn affiliate keyt. rodger wrote "all of those beautiful girls i've desired so much in my life but can never have because they despise and loathe me, i will destroy." a family friend, simon as stair says he sent his diatribe to a couple people including his mother and father not long before terrorizing the uc santa barbara campus.
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he wrote "i will kill them all and make them suffer just as they have made me suffer. i it is only fair." his mother discovered the e-mail at 9:17 and then discovered his last youtube video titled "retribution." >> i will slaughter every single spoiled stuck up blond [ bleep ] i see in there. >> reporter: the parents frantically racing to santa barbara from l.a. both parents en route when they heard the news that they were too late. >> it was a dark colored bmw, one occupant, a male wearing a white shirt. >> reporter: on sunday the atf and county sheriff's office searched the mother's home. as stair says rodger's parents feel, quote, a pif vol moment was missed last month. six police officers conducted a well-being check on rodger in april after his mother discovered other videos he
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posted online documenting his, quote, loneliness and misery. the officers say they found nothing alarming during their check. in his manifesto, rodger expresses his devastating fear that police discovered his plan. "i would have been thrown in jail, denied the chance to exact revenge on my enemies. i can't imagine a hell darker than that." asstair says rodger had been seeing therapists on and off before he was 8 and in high school practically daily. describing him as a reserved to a daunting degree. asstair says the 22-year-old didn't appear to have violent tendencies and never expressed any fascination in guns. on his blog, rodger portrayed himself as an affluent young man, son of assistant director from "hunger game" series. he grew up in the l.a. suburb of woodland hills, a place where he
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said he had a hard time fitting in. john? >> thanks so much, pamela. let's talk about this case, what was seen, noticed done. joining me is former fbi assistant director tom fuentes. thanks so much for being with us this morning. one of the things that makes this case so unique is so many of the things that haven't happened in past tragedies like this did happen here. the parents, they called the therapist and said they were concerned. the therapists so concerned called the cops. the cops went to the apartment of this shooter but then they couldn't do more they say. they were fooled by him. he seemed okay and they simply left. so based on what you know, your experience here in these situations, could the cops have seen something they didn't see there. should they have been more concerned, should they have s n stayed longer and asked different questions? >> good morning, john. i think that's a really difficult question to put to the police in this situation.
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their call to go to that house was to check on his well-being, meaning is he okay. it wasn't to do interrogations into his psychiatric condition and what he's ever going to do the rest of his life. it was to see -- his parents were concerned that he might be suicidal and were requesting the police to check on that. once he makes an articulate response to the police that he's fine, he's okay, he's not going to hurt himself, that's really about all they can do at that point. unfortunately, the gaps in our mental health system are such that it's very difficult to force an adult into mental health care or into a system that really isn't built to handle those kind of situations. >> so they did everything they were called to do at that point. they were going to make sure he wasn't a threat to himself. so you're talking about these gaps. what change would have to be made now to allow the police to do more if that's even possible? maybe it's not just about the police visiting the house at this time.
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what change needs to happen in the law to make it be so the parents could have done more, the therapists could have done more? >> once an individual reaches 18 years of age, it's very difficult for a parent anymore to have responsibility or the ability i should say to have them committed or institutionized, and the police have limited. it's almost as if the person has to do something bad which then triggers the system into putting him in an institution. until that happens, just because somebody is thinking bad thoughts or writing strange memos or e-mails, there's not a lot that can be done at that point. once the youtube video is produced and the manifesto was sent to the parents and other people, that takes it to another level. but at that point it was too late. >> it was too late. we've been listening all morning to heartbreaking comments from the father of one of the victims here, condemning our lawmakers
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in washington for not doing more since sandy hook to address the issue of gun violence. is there anything that has been discussed before, after, during sandy hook that would address the issues that took place here that might have prevented this tragedy? >> not really. i think that's the lesson learned is that we never learn a lesson. if you look at sandy hook and the situation, the discussions after that concerned assault rifles. no one has ever, ever debated on the hill or anywhere else that there's going to be a limitation on the purchase of handguns. there has been some discussion about mental health issues, but it's what triggers it. what do you call a mentally ill person or how do you put that in the system. my daughter was right down the hall at virginia tech in the same dorm in the same corridor as the first two people were killed that morning seven years ago. the shooter, joe, went to a
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roanoke, virginia gun shop and bought guns after the judge ruled he was mentally ill. nothing has changed since virginia tech, since sandy hook, in our mental health system since the kid went on the rampage in the high school in pennsylvania and stabbed kids in the classroom. we talk about it. we're shocked. we're outraged. nothing changes. >> tom, you have such a close connection to it, what you went through with your family but also dealing with law enforcement for so long. let me put this to you. what is the first change you'd like to see, what is one change if they could do it right now that would make a difference? >> a complete discussion of our mental health system. what do we do with individuals especially when they reach 18 years of age and the parents have limited ability to do anything anymore to force or to do an intervention on someone that they've known obviously all
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their lives and know that that person needs severe mental health care and can't get it and can't force it. seeing therapists and seeing doctors, but just not quite. we've had a couple of these situations as, again, the virginia tech shooter, the aurora, colorado, shooter this guy. they were seeing therapists, getting mental help. it didn't trigger enough for them to be committed somewhere, in an institution where they would be really closely watched. we have to have a discussion about our mental health system especially because we're not going to have a discussion about limiting handguns. since that's not going to happen, all we can do is hope for improvements in our mental health care. >> tom fuentes, thank you for being with us this morning. michaela? >> thank you so much. also today president obama is back in washington preparing to hold memorial day events after a
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surprise trip to afghanistan sunday. the president offered his thanks to our troops as the u.s. prepares for withdraw by the end of the year. by at home, the focus remains on the growing veterans affairs scandal. cnn's michelle kosinski is live in washington with the latest. this conversation takes a different feel when you talk about what day it is today. >> reporter: while the va scandal is going on at home, suddenly the president appears in afghanistan with the troops. his advisers said it was a chance to thank them in person for their service, just as he's about to make decision about what america's role will look like in afghanistan. he didn't mention the va scandal by name. he seemed to allude to it when he talked about the obligation to care for wounded warriors. he got big cheers when he told soldiers this is likely your last tour of duty in afghanistan. and bigger cheers when he said this. >> by the end of this year the
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transition will be complete and afghans will take full responsibility for their security, and our combat mission will be over. america's war in afghanistan will come to a responsible end. >> reporter: the president said he is hoping for a bilateral security agreement with afghanistan that would leave some limited force there to preserve the gains he said made by u.s. soldiers in afghanistan. michaela? >> all right. michelle kosinski at the white house. i want to turn to christine romans for the rest of the top stories. >> breaking overnight. three people are missing and may have been swept away when an enormous mudslide hit western colorado. this mudslide, four miles long, two miles wide, 250 feet deep in many places. the area is considered so unstable it's been blocked off and people aren't being allowed in. emergency crews say they believe the whole ridge had been sliding
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for most of sunday following heavy rains. the pope today wrapping up his three-day visit to the middle east. he met with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. the move did not sit well among palestinians. it all comes after he invited israeli and palestinian members to the vatican to pray for the longstanding conflict. both sides have agreed to meet. president obama is expected to keep a memorial day tradition laying a wreath at the tomb of the unknowns at arlington national cemetery. in new york, hundreds will join active duty service members to visit the intrepid sea, air and space museum. >> i played trumpet going up. i used to play the bugle at cemeteries on veterans day. it was just a wonderful, wonderful poignant thing to do. >> today is a day, my
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grandmother, for example, will put things on the tombstones. all around the country, there are people in a subdued manner honored today. >> not all burgers and dogs. very important to remember. next up on "new day," the secretary of defense speaks to cnn about the scandal at the veterans affairs department. does chuck hagel support his colleague, embattled secretary eric shinseki or does he think they should go? are changes on the way in the wake of the california massacre. will police change their protocol? we'll explore. congratulations. thank you. the success of your small business depends on results. go vests! all organic, and there's tons of info on our website. that's why you rely on the best for your business. and verizon delivers the best devices on the best network. you're all big toes to me. so go ahead, stream and download with confidence
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as we honor those who paid the ultimate price, some called for va secretary eric shinseki to resign after reports of vets dieing while waiting for medical service and allegations of a coverup. one person not yet calling for his resignation, defense secretary chuck hagel. he spoke about the scandal one-on-one with an interview with our own jake tapper who joins us now from washington. jake, you put the question bluntly to defense secretary hagel. should shinseki stay or go? >> reporter: so far he is backing president obama saying that shinseki should stay for now, although leaving the door open. hagel comes from a slightly different perspective. take a look. >> you come at the va scandal from an interesting perspective.
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not only are you a veteran you were once deputy administrator of the va administration. are you appalled when you see these stories? >> i suspect i'm not unlike any american. it makes me sick to my stomach. because it is a clear responsibility we have as a country, as a people, to take care of these men and women and their families who have sacrificed so much. i know systems are imperfect. i get that. but when you've got what we do know, and you're right, we need to get the facts. let's see exactly why it happened, how it happened. then we've got to fix it. then we have to fix it. sure, everybody is upset with this. >> basically there's no daylight between he and shinseki, john, but there wasn't the kind of
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full-throated support that one might expect to hear if there's no chance that shinseki will resign. >> you mention that he comes at this from not only being a veteran but having worked in the va. how about also having been involved in something of a va scandal way back when, also? how does that inform his views on this current situation? >>. >> reporter: well, we talked about that a bit. for those who don't know, he was deputy veterans administration administrator during the reagan administration for a year or so. the administrator was a very controversial guy who had referred to vietnam veteran groups as cry babies, referred to agent orange as causing nothing more than a little teenage acne. chuck hagel resigned. he ultimately was so disgusted with the administrator that he went and told president reagan why he was resigning, left, didn't do any interviews about the subject. ultimately the administrator was forced to step down as well.
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one suspects that that experience makes hagel recognize that these problems are horrific and also that they're not new, that they have been going back for decades, the idea of the va sometimes seeming to be at odds with the very rhett rans they're charged with protecting. >> it's clear the secretary has done a lot of deep thinking on veterans issues. jake, let me say thank you to you for all the work you've done with service members and veterans. some of the people you've gotten to know over the years, they have good friends who have died in combat. the secretary served in vietnam. he had friends, he was around so much loss as well. is this something you had a chance to discuss with him? >> i did. i asked who he would be thinking about today. two names came to mind. one was a soldier in his unit, chuck hagel having served in vietnam who was killed in march 1968, the soldier.
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his name was john summers. he was killed in the same ambush where hagel and his brother were both wounded. and then also there was a good friend of hagel's, specialist tony palombo from buffalo, new york, specifically who was a very close friend of his who was killed a few months lather. we'll talk more about what memorial day means to him later when the full interview runs at 4:00 eastern. >> jake, appreciate you being here. >> thanks, john. >> you can see this interview. a terrific interview, important interview on this memorial day. jake tapper sits down with defense secretary chuck hagel. next up on "new day," we know police visited the 22-year-old behind the rampage last month and missed major clues. will the tragedy change how police handle these types of calls? also, pope francis
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elliot rodger killed six and wounded 13. president obama is back in washington for memorial day after a surprise visit to afghanistan. obama offering his thanks to troops as the u.s. prepares for with draum at the end of the year. poroshenko leads all candidates with 54% of the vote and counting in ukraine. pope francis is ending his trip to the middle east by meeting with benjamin netanyahu, it comes a day after he invited israeli and palestinian leaders to the vatican to pray for an end to the longstanding conflict. thousands are expected to make their way to the vietnam veterans memorial today, one of the many events meant to honor those who died while serving in the u.s. military. we are always updating the five things to know. go to new day.cnn.com for the latest. friday's killing spree has left many trying to understand what led 22-year-old elliot rodger to kill.
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we know police visited the shooter's apartment about a month before the shooting for a wellness check. they say they found nothing suspicious. the question is will this tragedy change how law enforcement changes these types of calls? joining us, dr. rodney ludwig and retired law enforcement agent lou palombo. lou, i want to start with you. i think some people have had a chance to see very chilling portions of this shooter's manifesto. i want to read a quote to you. "the police interrogated me outside for a few minutes asking if i had suicidal thoughts. i tactfully told them it was a misunderstanding and they finally left." why didn't law enforcement go into his apartment, into his room? >> basically, michaela, they did
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everything they were required to do. in other words, they received information or a heads up that this individual -- he sats factually responded to them. they had no legal right to force entry into his home. they had no probable cause. these are the constraints that are put on to the police. we get involved with the fourth amendment, illegal search and seizure. it isn't just black and white. the public and the media need to know there are constraints on the police as to what they may or may not do, and it is dictated to them by circumstance. if i may just say this, if he had demonstrated some type of irrational or erratic behavior or alluded to hurting himself or others, the police at that point would have been licensed to further pursue this, which would have included taking him into custody perhaps and transporting him to a hospital and then searching the premise. but based on the information at hand, they did everything they were required to do and limited
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to do. >> required and limited. lou, does that make you believe after seeing a case like this there are far too many of these cases? should the laws be changed? do you think more authority needs to be given to law enforcement? >> i think we should definitely open up discussion, especially on the heels of this case. one of the tragic components of this case is there are many tales with this young man, both the family and the therapist. everybody was on track with this. they didn't know how to follow through, so to speak. we need to open up some dialogue to explore whether or not the courts, our legal system, our laws can be changed to give police a little bit more prerogative in these instances. and i suspect that police will entertain policy changes here. on the heels of this case, this is very tragic. we're all aware of that. i think this was preventable.
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i will not hang this on police. having conduct add check of this type myself, a wellness check or a welfare check which dealt primarily with elderly people, that's -- these are just the facts surrounding this, and we have to accept them on that basis. >> robrobi, lou alluded to the t that people did see signs that something was wrong. it sounds like right measures were taken. yet? >> in situations like this, when someone is very sick and disturbed but has enough reality testing to realize they need to present as a healthy person so they're not admitted to the hospital, people can be sick but know how to present themselves. >> mask their symptoms. >> and mask their plan. but families often know when someone is ill. so in certain cases, let's say, if somebody has a history of non-comply ans with medication, has a history of hospitalization -- there's something in new york state
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called timothy's law where you can actually enforce that they have to take medication, and if they don't, then they are hospitalized. there was some rumor that eliot was not compliant with his medication. then there's also a mental health warrant that families can take to family court to involuntarily commit a family member who they feel is dangerous, even when police may not see those signs because i think we need to respect that family members and mental health professionals sometimes are the first to know that something is off. >> should mental health be working with law enforcement? is this a conjunction kind of thing? >> yes, and also we need to change our legislation so we have better laws in place so that when family member are really at a confused state or don't know what to do, the police and the family and the mental health professionals can all work collaboratively so we make sure these young boys in
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their 20s who are on the heels of potential mental illness, that they're not a danger to themself or others. >> lou, in your experience, and i know you worked in philadelphia, nassau county, the police department there. i know it varies from department to department, state to state, how well instructed, trained are law enforcement officers with mental health? you looked at a situation like this as robi was saying, he presented pretty well to most folks. if that was your first encounter with him, you may not think he was unwell. >> the reality of the situation is that police officers are not clinically backgrounded self efficiently to make spontaneous assessments of mental or emotional conditions of individuals. we rely on the behavior, the immediacy of their behavior in our presence, rambling, illogical, irrational, threats. a deviation from the norm where a reasonable person of average intelligence could say this is
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not right. based on that, we can take a person off the street. i have personally done it myself recently with a stalker with an academy award winning celebrity, but you have to be able to substantiate exactly what you've done. you just cannot arbitrarily take people off the street because you have a feeling. you've got to articulate -- >> lou palumbo, robi ludwig, thanks for having this conversation with us. next up for us on "new day." we're learning so much more about the 22-year-old man who killed six students during this rampage. what drove him to commit such horrific violence. we are going to speak with a former classmate who is also directly referenced in this manifesto. this is an exclusive interview you'll see only here on "new day." stay with us.
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gridlock. teacher layoffs. and a 60 billion dollar budget deficit. that's what john perez faced when he became speaker of the california assembly. so he partnered with governor brown to pass three balanced budgets, on time. for the first time in thirty years. today, the deficits are gone and we've invested an additional 2 billion dollars in education. now john perez is running for controller, to keep fighting for balanced budgets.
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democrat john perez for controller. this morning we're learning more about a man who killed six and injured 13. we've been talking about elliot rodger's 130-page manifesto where he blames women for his troubles. he explains what he calls the twisted world where he was always wrong. the question is what was elliot rodger actually like when he was alive? what kind of a kid was he? what kind of a young adult was he? we're joined exclusively by lucky radley, a childhood acquaintance, friend of elliot rodger and is actually named in the manifesto. thank you for being with us this morning. appreciate you being here. >> my pleasure. >> lucky, you grew up like three
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doors down from elliot rodger, correct? >> correct. >> went do fourth grade with him. the question so many people are asking, who was the elliot rodger you knew? >> the elliot rodger i knew, he was really a quiet guy. he never said any words. he was just really there, he didn't say much. i don't remember him saying anything. it was -- he only spoke when he was spoken to. >> quiet can mean so many things in retrospect when we look back and talk about things like this. when you say he was quiet, he just didn't talk much, he was reserved or there was something that you thought was odd over the years? >> no, no. i didn't see anything odd about it. he actually didn't say anything. it was on twasn't normal, how q
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he was. even when you speak to him, the words he would say -- he was really soft spoken. he would say one word answers, just answer your question. he would never start a conversation or anything. >> how well do you know him? how close were you? there's a reason i'm asking here. >> well, not -- i know him -- i went over to his house a couple times, played games with him. he was -- he sat at the same table in the classroom. i didn't know him. >> doesn't sound like you were close buddies or best friends or someone you dealt with. >> oh, no. >> which makes it very interesting, lucky, that your name came up in the manifesto. let me read you the section. lucky would later go to the same middle school where he would become an object of extreme jealousy and hatred. looking back, i can't believe i
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actually played with him as a friend in my father's neighborhood. what's it feel to see something like that now? >> when i saw that, i was shocked. i couldn't -- i literally didn't believe that was coming from him. when i heard everything, i'm still shocked. it's just a crazy feeling. i couldn't believe it. i still can't believe it. >> did you ever have any reason to expect or know that he hated you like that? >> oh, no, not at all. from what i saw, i thought we were pretty good friends. he was always nice -- not nice, but he didn't say much, but we played games together and he never got -- it was nothing -- he wouldn't say anything -- he wouldn't say anything, but he
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wouldn't give me the impression that we weren't on good terms. >> we've learned so much now about this young man because of what he posted on youtube and what he put on this manifesto that he did. i understand you sort of followed him or kept in touch on facebook over the years. was there anything ever that you saw on facebook or on social media of his that gave you any reason to be concerned? >> i haven't actually. i didn't even -- i didn't keep in touch with him on facebook. i saw him on -- my first time seeing him since middle school was on the video, when they told me about it. that's my first time hearing about -- seeing him or really hearing him talk. that's the first time hearing him talk is when i saw the video. that's the first time me hearing him say more than a one-word answer. >> finally, let me ask you this.
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i know you weren't terribly close but you knew him as a kid and you've seen what happened now. if you could say anything to elliot, if you could go back to one week ago, two weeks ago and tell him anything, what would you say? >> wow, i would just tell him -- just talk to him -- try to get him -- try to get him not to talk, but just to feel him out and see -- i really haven't -- i don't know what he was going through, so i can't just tell you what exactly i would say, but try to just talk to him. he looked like he was talking -- that's the most i've seen him talk in the video. so i would try to just talk to him and try to start a conversation and catch up on how he's been. >> lucky radley, appreciate you being here and giving us the
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insight at this young man. we'll speak to one person who sadly can relate all too well to the santa barbara tragedy. craig scott lost his sister in the columbine shooting. we'll speak with him live next. ? try alka seltzer reliefchews. they work just as fast and are proven to taste better than tums smoothies assorted fruit. mmm. amazing. yeah, i get that a lot. alka seltzer heartburn reliefchews. enjoy the relief. honestly, the off-season isn't i've got a lot to do. that's why i got my surface. it's great for watching game film and drawing up plays. it's got onenote, so i can stay on top of my to-do list, which has been absolutely absurd since the big game. with skype, it's just really easy to stay in touch with the kids i work with. alright, russell you are good to go! alright, fellas. alright, russ. back to work!
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to strike here in the united states. six college students killed, 13 others wounded by a man who says he was really just angry at the world, angry at women, all women. one person who can relate to this tragedy is craig scott. he was a student at columbine high school when two of his classmates went on a shooting spree taking 13 lives. craig's sister rachel was among those killed. craig, thanks so much for being with us. let me ask you this morning, when we see these tragedies, it affects all of us, but for you i imagine it's got to be something different. what went through your mind friday night as this was unfolding? >> as i watched the video of the shooter and i saw his eyes, saw some of the arrogance, some of the detachment that he had and kind of blaming the world for his problems, i was filled with a mixture of sadness. part of me was a little bit angry. i felt for the victims' families
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right away, thinking about the people that are lost, the innocent people that he's killed, and i think that -- i couldn't help but think that the real problems are lying within his own heart. that's where the real solutions lie. it just gave me more -- gives me more passion, spirit to continue to do what it is that i do in speaking to students. i was just filled with, like everyone, just a mixture of anger, sadness, but also with me, every time i hear about these shootings, i come to a place of resolve to keep doing -- to keep being a light and being a positive influence as best as i can. >> it's important work that you're doing on this subject. you said you saw a haughtiness in him, an arrogance in him. there's been so much focus, there always is, after a shooting like this, on the perpetrator, on what drove this
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person to do this. do you think there are answers out here? do you think we spend too much time focusing on perhaps the shooter here and not on the victims? >> i think what you place your attention on you give power to. i think the shooter is dead and gone and now we're trying to learn from how can we be a better society? how can we stop things like this from happening. the biggest way that i've met potential shooters from schools and speaking and seeing things stopped and the biggest way i see that stopped is by focusing on the right things, by focusing on positive things. how do you combat this depression, anger, this blaming the world, taking no responsibility for your own emotions, your own actions. one thing that i saw with him was that he said his problems were girls. his problem wasn't girls. his problems were within his own self.
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he thought if he appeared to be a certain way that he would attract girls, but really he drove people away with his negativity, with his selfishness, and if he had been -- i don't take away from the shooter's responsibility every time this happens, and i think sometimes it gets justified as we get to learn about them, and i want to be careful not to do that. but at the same time i do believe sometimes reaching out to people like that, stepping out like my sister wrote before she was killed, about stepping out with compassion, to show kindness, that it can start a chain reaction of kindness and compassion. i think that he did need help. i think he had to decide for himself if he was going to start to see the good in life. he grew up in an affluent place. he had a lot of blessings, a lot
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of good things. there's a lot of things that could probably have changed his life if he had chosen to see, listen, not just be so self-absorbed, but to get out of himself. if he would have gone to another country for a month and seen how much he had. if he had chosen to do some type of service. one of the things that i think can change a person is someone else stepping in to their darkness and being a light and shedding on some of these lies, these delusions that he believed in. his friend on the video, i watched a video, his friend saying that they watched a movie together, and after the movie about these kind of young people with their anger, destroying the world, that he said that he was going to dominate the world and thought -- he talks about in the video being a perfect gentlemen.
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a perfect gentlemen doesn't treat women -- he talks about them as if they're objects, animals. and i wonder in his life, i wonder if he got into a lot of pornography, if that was something that he began to really demoralize women with, demoralize himself with. he's quaets his worth to whether he had sex or not. he would have found that, you know, having -- at one point he says in the video, i think he would have found even if he had even had that sex, that he still wouldn't have been fulfilled in the way that he thought. there's a number of things. >> we know you have a lot of experience and a lot of messages to say, a lot of help to give. you work through a lot of people with rachel's challenge which helps remember the life of your sister. thanks, craig scott, for being with us.
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time for "the good stuff." a live picture here from arlington national cemetery. later this morning the president will participate in the annual wreath laying ceremony at the tomb of the unknowns. i want to bring you the story of a massachusetts man whose mission is to keep our veterans from ever being forgotten. every may since 2007 when his friend's son died in combat, robert gromazzio lines his entire line with flags for every member killed in iraq and afghanistan. >> i kind of get to know their pictures every year. i don't know. it's like i'm talking to him. >> this year he had to ask neighbors to borrow their front lawn. he wishes they could be remembered year-round, but is content with making sure that the focus is all on them today.
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>> i hope everybody doesn't forget. it's kind of sad one day a year. but at least everybody remembers one day. >> let's make it every day. >> let's make it every day. with that. that's all from us on "new day." we want to thank you for spending the day with us. let's go to the "newsroom" with carol costello. >> hi, thanks so much. "newsroom" starts now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com good morning. i'm carol costello, thanks so much for joining me. this morning in coffee shops and in college campuses this man's deadly rampage is reviving the debate over gun control. dodged by mental health issues all his life, yet was able to buy three firearms, his murder weapons. the father of one of his
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