the release will allow for independent analysis of what has become the biggest mystery in the history of aviation. cnn's richard quest joins us with more from los angeles. i have it in my hands, sir quest, some 50 pages of data. and when i look through it, do you know what i get? nothing. i don't understand anything in this, richard. is that is going to be a common frustration? >> it will be. and i can tell you, this is the processed version. if you had received the original version, as i saw it inmarsat last week, that was a full-page tightly printed number, number, number. at least they have extracted the numbers, chris. they've made sense of it. but they have not made sense of it for the likes of you and me. this isn't designed for us to understand it. this is designed for people who understand satellites,

communications, those sort of things, to realize what inmarsat has done. inmarsat is doing this for reasons of transparency. when i got exclusive access to the inmarsat control room, to the scientists, to the engineers last week i met the man who was responsible for leading the team and coming up with the whole concept of the plane flying south. i asked mark dickinson, at the end of the day why was he so con kri vinced, what did this show? would it be possible to say where the plane went? >> to be clear, you're letting people make judgments on your work. you're not inviting them to redo your work. >> no. as i say, redo the work require experts in many different fields. we gathered those victims within the investigation team to allow that to happen. but this is providing some

transparency in what data came back and forth between the plane and ground station and how that data has been subsequently used. it allows people to see what techniques, what things have been accounted for. but certainly provides i'm hope aggregate deal of transparency in ters of the analysis that's been done by inmarsat and almost by the other teams in the investigation. >> chris, the important point there is that they have done the testing with their model and other organizations have done the same testing with their own model on many different planes, including the same aircraft over dozens of flights and it all proves the numbers work. >> here's the problem. disclosure is confidence. if you don't release your analysis and your process of how you reached your conclusion, you're fueling more questions than answers. have they set themselves up for disappointment here? >> they are -- but happens.

but they can't release all the analysis for the simple reason that you've got to know information about the satellite modem on the aircraft. you need the know more information about the satellite itself. it goes up and down 1,000 kilometers in a range a day. the ground station, they brought all these engineers together. you see, what they haven't done in all of this is compile it into one book, if you like, one report. it's all in bits around bobs on different spreadsheets from different people that has come together for a conclusion. yes, i suppose they could write a book or a thesis on the subject but they were more concerned with getting the information and working it. and so far, as dickinson said to me, nobody has proven it to be incorrect. >> but how can they pro prove it incorrect if they don't know how it was reached in the first place? it's a little bit of a circular argument. i think if an investigative accident was asking this company

to explain how you came to the conclusion of where this plane is they would have given a different set of information, not data, but a different set of information to them to help clarify their position that near not doing here and the question is why. >> right. but what they did do is once they have come up with their model on the frequency and the speed and all these things, other organizations took this same data and this data is trath from the plane. this is not processed in that sense. and they worked with their own models. now, where i think everybody -- where they're falling down is not saying which other organizations verified the data because i think if we knew, for example, was it boeing, rolls royce, the ntsb, the aaib. if those organizations put their head together and said, yes, we did take the inmarsat data and we have verified it to be true. what we're left with is mark

dickinson saying hey, guys, this isn't a frolic of inmarsat. others have verified what we've done. we now need to perhaps hear from those other to confirm it. >> disclosure is confidence when it comes to a mystery. that is for sure. richard quest, thank you for helping us get through the weeds on this this morning. appreciate it. let's turn to call where a memorialer service is planned the for the six victims in the killing spree of isla vista. friends say rod jer recently found -- fought with his roommates over noise in this apartments. those were three of his victims found stabbed today. we are live in santa barbara are much more. good morning, sarah. >> good morning. here now hearing more from the familys of victims of of the students stabbed or gunned down

here their pain is searing. they are trying to understand what happened. and they know they're going to inevitably have to bury their children. >> reporter: vigils held across california honoring all six uc santa barbara students killed in the stabbing and shooting rampage by 22-year-old elliott rod g rodger before apparently taking his own life. parents inconsolable, including the mother of 20-year-old wang, one of three men deputies say rodgers stabbed repeatedly in his apartment. classmates of 20-year-old cheng yuan hong. the sheriff says the gunman was apparently mentally disturbed and for at least a year he had been planning to attack women

and those he saw as a popular kids. taping this youtube video titled "retributi "retribution." >> love, affection, adoration, you think i'm unworthy of it. that's a crime that can never be forgiven. >> reporter: rodger outlined his grievances in a diatribe more than 100 pages long. one of rodgers childhood classmates mentioned in the document describing him as quiet. >> he didn't say much. i don't remember him saying anything. he only spoke when he was spoken to. >> reporter: a family friend says rodger's parents was missed last month when six deputies conducted a well-being check on rodger after his mother discovered other chilling videos posted online, documenting his, quote, loan aniness and misery. but they say they found nothing alarming during their check. >> we would like to believe we would like to collect all the data and evidence and be able to

identify mass murderers before they act but we simply cannot do it. >> now, the victims were all uc an stay barbara students. as far as what's happening on the campus they have decided to close the school for today and there will be a memorial. we have seen one or two memorials before. massive, hundreds of students and people from the area, just from isla vista showed upholding candles on this campus. we expect it to be a large memorial today. this campus is suffering through it. overnight, ramped up fig fighting between ukrainian troops. reports of 40 deaths so far. clashes began monday when separatists stormed an airport. ukraine air and ground force counter attacked.

now the new government there is vowing to take up the stakes and take the fights to insurgents. jim schuitto is in kiev with more. this has become a new flash point, true? >> no question. a bigger one now, particularly after the election, chris. i spoke to a senior ukraine kran official this morning who said in his words, it is now or never for ukraine to fight this mill tansy. in his words, we have been patient for far too long. what you're seeing here is that after this election, this new government, the new president, poroshenko feels they have a terrorist and go after them hard. a major assault on a major pa airport here in the east. attack helicopters, steps you would not have seen in the run-up to the election. jeffrey pilot telling me this morning that we are now entering

the most kinetic phase of this operation. >> kinetic phase, we'll see what that means on the ground. what do we know about the militants? can the ukrainian military take them on successfully? >> it's going to be a big challenge, chris. i tell you, i spoke to a senior ukrainian military official this morning who put the estimate of the number of militants in the east at 15 to 20,000. this includes pro-russian separatists of ukrainian nationality and russians of ukrainian officials believe who have come across the border including chechens. just by comparisons at the peak of the iraq war u.s. military officials put hard core militants there at 8 to 12,000. 15 to 20,000 here well supplied. it's believed supported by the russian government. that signals a long anti. insurgency fight. we were out there the last several days in the east. they were able to shut down the election in the east, these milita militants. shut down a major airport

yesterday. they are very powerful. looks like you've got to brace yourself for a long fight here. >> that gives you perspective when you say the number is twice what the u.s. and allies were dealing with in iraq. jim schuitto, thank you. let's look at your headlines. still to comment from the white house or the cia after the administration accidentally released the identity of the agency's top spy in afghanistan. the agent's name was included on a list of attendeeses at a military briefing for president obama during his surprise visit to bagram airfield. the white house quickly recognized the mistake but not before some 6,000 journalists got that list. we'll have much more later in this hour. american doctor killed after two gunmen opened fire in pakistan. medi ali kamar,a cardiologist from ohio was with his wife and toddler, shot ten times at close range. police say the family was leaving a cemetery of visiting

relatives' graves. he had recently take a sabbatical and was planning to voluntarily treat patients at a nearby heart institute. six chemical weapons inspectors kidnapped in syria according to the syrian foreign ministry. the inspectors are with the organization for prohibition of chemical weapons looking into claims the assad regime used gas on avil village. five syrian drivers were kidnapped. we will keep following this story for you. back here rat home, a twister touched down in north a dakota injuring some nine workers at an oil patch. one woman was able to capture it on video. you can hear her fearing for her life. >> jesus, jesus, jesus. father, god in heaven, lord, jesus, lord gjesus, help us god. oh, my jesus. we got nowhere to go.

>> that's the frightening thing. bring in meteorologist indra petersons not knowing where to go when you see something like that bearing down on you. >> this is the good news, they got the warning they needed yesterday. they were not in a risk area for severe weather yesterday. of course, where you always want to go is the lowest level of your house, the most interior room that you have. it was just this one cell that popped up right before 8:00 p.m. last night. they did get the warning that they needed. today more severe weather expected out there. eastern portions of texas, waco down through kor pcorpus christ. only one side of the equation. heavy rain is also going to be the storm. three to six inches of rain in addition to the rain they've seen. you know the concern for flooding will be out there and high and we go through the next several days. look at the moisture funneling in from the gulf. that is affecting the entire eastern half of the country. heaviest where the low is. no matter where you are today, east of the mississippi, you are still talking about a threat for

scattered showers. yes, it was a beautiful weekend in the northeast. temperatures were warm, dry. now you've added the rain. the temperatures are going down, too. boston, high is 5 5. new york city, still nice, 88 for one day, guys. by tomorrow, dropping down as well. down to 62 degrees. the good news, it changes by the end of the week. flip-flop and we warm up. not too bad. rainy. feels like monday, it's tuesday. feels like monday today. coming up next on "new day," nigerian officials say they know where the hundreds of kidnapped girls are. why are they not going in to get them and what the can u.s. do about it? frightening new details about the california killer but figg ege ege eger -- changes ne made and we have experts ahead with ideas. [ laughter ]

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this morning nigerian military says it knows where the 300 abducted schoolgirls are being held but the country's defense chief says they won't go in with force to free them because they're concerned the girls could be killed in the process. those girls, you will remember,

were kidnapped six weeks ago. aside from this video we are showing you they have not been seen sense. wetsz lets bring in retired major general james "spider" marks to discuss. spider, it's great to see you as always. it's a little bit confusing for anyone -- for anyone reading into it. the country's defense chief in nigeria says they know where the girls are. the u.s. is not confirming that at all. at least to this point. first off, do you believe that? >> not really. no, not at all. i would tell you that if they know where the girls are located the last thing you want to do is announce it to the world. what you want to do is go retrieve them if you have the capability. if you don't then you keep your mouth shut until you can do something about it. you don't want to tell your population or your world that you know where they are but there's nothing we can do about it. it's a bad combination. >> the defense chief says, we know where we are but we're not going to go uses for to get them out because there's a concern

the girls will be killed in the process. if not going in with force when dealing with boko haram militants, what's the option, negotiation? >> no, negotiation is truly not an option with boko haram, and they've indicated that. the nigerian government said they're not going to negotiate in terms of release of some possible prisoners they already have in exchange for the girls. when you have intelligence and you can do something about it you go about the business of doing it. clearly what you have is a very large concern for collateral damage. that means the girls -- many girls are probably going to be killed if there was a rescue operation and if the girls are separated in a bunch of different locations, that doubles and triples the effort that needs to take place because you have to conditiuct simultans operations and all have to be led by very well trained folks and they have to be preceded by precise and targetable

intelligence. i don't think they're there. >> arwa damon said that boko haram is a decentralized group. so if you would go about negotiating with one group for the release of some girls when they've been split up, that negotiation may not have any bearing with another group that they would need to get other girls released from. how do you account for that? >> kate, very, very true. the difficulty is when you're really dealing with an ideology galvanized into these various little pockets. so you don't deal with that very effectively. the real challenge for the government, the real challenge of the united states in its on-going effortses to help, we had some special forces individuals in country and we're also conducting some drone operations to try to find and really precisely locate these young ladies is what can you do about it? if they are in different locations this becomes a very, very -- very, very precise mission that needs to be undertaken. only the united states has the capability and some of our allies have the capability to

conduct an operation like this. but it would really take the cooperation of the nigerian government and they've demonstrated that they really -- i mean, with this latest proclamation they demonstrated a level of incompetence that is quite alarming. >> when you take a step back, you could see it as a source of optimism if they really do know where the girls are but then it's almost canceled right out when they say we're not going to go in because we're afraid we might kill them in the process. what do you think is going on? what would motivate the defense chief to come out and say something? >> i think, let's look at it from this perspective. there might be an effort on the part of the nigerians to try to declare something that may or may not be true. we can put that off to the side for a second. but if you're looking to get boko haram to move these young ladies, there's an advantage potentially in that, if that any time you move a group like this you start kicking up dust, as we say, which means your intelligence is alerted in advance and it can start to pick

up the indicators of what might be going on with an announcement like this. but this is very high risk for the government to indicate this if they're trying to illicit that type of a response because the only outcome generally would be a bad one and the ones that would be put at risk would be these young ladies. >> it will be interesting to see what if we do get more response from u.s. official, especially to hear what the pentagon has to say about this throughout the day. six weeks on, still those girls are missing. tomorrow we are going to bring you an interview, very important interview, i would say. my interview with a young girl who survived a horrible attack by boko haram herself. her name is debra peter. that is tomorrow on "new day." chris? coming up on "new day," shocking details about the california shooter. there were red flags. the family said they tried. others, too. the cops even came. why are we powerless to stop someone like this? and the raw data from flight 370 finally released.

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welcome back to "new day." here's a look at your headlines. families of malaysia airline flight 370, passengers seeing one of their demands met. inmarsat releasing a satellite data used in the search for the missing jet including tig signals used in r and plotting the possible flight path in the indian ocean. it will allow for independent analysis of what happened when that plane vanished nearly three months ago.

rescue workers continue looking for three people that are missing after major mudslide in western colorado. that slide happened a day -- after a day of rain on sunday. it impacted irrigation for farmers in mesa county. the three missing men went to investigate the slide when authorities believe a second mudslide swept them away. that region remains unstable. officials are concerned about the risk of another mudslide coming through. pope francis announced plans to meet with victims of sexual abuse next month. he will have zero tolerance for anyone in the catholic church who abuses children. the pope plans to meet with eight victims p u.s.-based survivors group though said the statement does not go far enough. the pope's announcement comes after a three-day mideast tour where he invited them to the vatican for prayer. 28 minutes -- i almost missed the clock there, chris. >> don't cut me short. we're learning more about

the man who took six lives in isla vista. if so many knew including the cops, why wasn't he stopped? seems to be a simple question with a very difficult answer. joining us now is dr. jody gold and mary ellen o'toole, retired senior fbi profiler and forensic behavioral consultant. thank you to both of you for being with us. looking at the videos, hearing the evidence, seeing the manifesto, it doesn't seem to me you need to be a forensic expert to see the red flags here. but what jumps out at you as to what needed attention? >> well, what jumped out was what he said in that video in particular, and of course in the manifesto. there were indications that he had both homicidal and suicidal

thing. he was tempered in how he presented in that video which to me told me that he was not out of touch with reality. so that made his threats even more likely to occur. it was really the totality of everything he said that jumped out to me with a red flag. >> i'm less impressed with the details of this individual's life. the iron any here is they drive the interest of you at home and yet the frustration of why do we keep seeing these cases. the families tried to get him treechlt. he rejected it. friends said something and saw something, neighbors as well. the cops were called for a wellness check and yet this still happens. does this speak to a system that does not work? >> it speaks to a system that's challenged, no question about it. there were red plagues. everybody sort of did the right thing. but it obviously failed. in my opinion, when the police -- after the police were called it should have triggered psychiatric intervention. not necessarily a legal

intervention but psychiatric intervention. i felt there was potentially a breakdown in communication. >> how do you have a psychiatric intervention without a legal one, and that's the conclusion question. >> right. >> cops, they're not set up to do this kind of analysis that you can. doesn't that speak to how the system doesn't work? you're going to send cops to me to ask me whether or not i'm mentally stable? >> it was appropriate to call the cops and it was appropriate for the cops to assess the risk. at that point you needed a mental health official. >> the guy says, i have no risk, they leave, would that have worked for you? >> no, not at all. >> do you know where i'm coming from, mary ellen? six of them, they talk to him. i'm good. i have some problems. who doesn't. they say he's polite. that's all cops care about, your demeanor, are you aggressive. do we have to change who goes into a situation like that in your opinion, mary ellen? >> well, police officers offer times do what you're calling a

welfare check. but here's what happens now. we have behavioral intervention teams, threat assessment teams, and they are made up of law enforcement and mental health experts. and they don't just take self-reported information. so you can't just say, hey, i'm fine, why don't you guys just go ahead and have a good day. we want to know, wait a minute, we're aware of this video, we're aware of other information that tells us we're more concerned about you than just simply you sending us on our way. so there should have been really more in-depth look at this individual and not reliant on his self-reported information. >> why wasn't there? >> i don't know. >> you know? what else do you need? they didn't even search the room. how do not look at the room when they're a shut-in? >> i know. this is where i would like to see point people to gather information. you talk to family members, look

at youtube reports, see if they're registered gun holders. you put all the pieces together. that's what these teams do. >> fair criticism of the family in this situation? you don't want to see any family put in this obviously. they were divorced, so what, who isn't these days. there was a lot of indulgence in this kid. do you have to cut him off and treat him as an addict and not fund his mania? >> i think the parents probably had an opportunity to intervene. when i work with adults one of the challenges is keeping the family involved because with kids we can intervene at a young age and the parents have a lot of power. >> he's 22. how do you intervene with me, i don't to see a doctor, i'm fine, then i putting out crazy videos and writing this crazy manifesto, what do you do? >> in some cases a lot of young adults don't live on their own. parents support them emotionally and financially. i do feel that parents can be involved in adults. you sort of have to be. you can't just take a report of

a young adult. >> quick yes or no. are we seeing enough of these stories that are so repettive that we need to have a change and we have figure out what it is? yes or no. >> yes. >> mary ellen? >> it starts at 7 or 8 years of age, not 22, yes. >> each story just makes it a more painful truth than the last. thank you, jodi, mary ellen. kate? coming up next on "new day," the long awaited satellite data from flight 370 finally made public. but experts looking at the raw data say it's incomplete. what does the data show and what appears to have been held back? also ahead, reminder, thursday cnn's premiering "the 60s," a newer isries from tom hanks and gary. it explores the decade that

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welcome back to "new day." overnight, the malaysian government released the inmarsat data used to calculate where missing flight 370 most likely ended in the southern indian ogog ocean. families had been pleaded for weeks for the information. what are we learning? let's discuss this and latest in the search. joined now by mary schiavo and david soucie. david is a cnn safety analyst and author of "why planes crash." good morning to both of you. mary, let me start with you. we have the data. it's panges and pages president to the untrained eye or even to a sophisticated person, it's hard to look through. what does it mean to you? >> well, yeah, glass is half full here. they did get the raw data. what they asked for was the raw

data, the satellite transmission data and what inmarsat used to calculate or come up with a hypothesis that it was in the southern indian ocean. that much they got. what they didn't get was detailed information at how they did the analysis, what inmarsat relied upon. i would have thought they would have put that in the information because the report was being aimed for the families. but still, they got the data and they will be able to do an independent analysis. >> what do you think we have here, david? >> well, you know, i used to teach math at red stone college in colorado. i'm not giving this a very good grade, to be honest with you. the math is there. the information is there. but they didn't show their work. let's put it that way. they didn't put their work. there's no real way to determine what formulas they used, how they got there. you have to consider it's not just inmarsat. i think inmarsat gets an a-plus for putting that information out there. they didn't put out the formulas

and how they arrived at the data that is information that other people have like honeywell and the other manufacturers that mafr the come flex system. >> one of the basic reasons that anyone wanted the information release sd to figure out how, if we don't have better information, how did you determine the plane ended in this place in the southern indian ocean since it's so far off where it had intended to be. mary, do we get any further to be able to answer that question? >> well, they didn't provide it in the report. they didn't make it easy on the families. they really should have at this point. we are at two plus, 2 1/2 months out. and it would have been -- behoove them to do that. no, if they took that data -- they don't have the algorithms as david mentioned. they didn't show their work at all. they didn't know what they did but they have the raw data. with expert minds they can re-examine for their own but they did not justify their

findings at all here. >> who are the other agencies? one thing we heard from richard guest, david, one of the things that i find interesting, you have inmarsat who has the data and inmarsat says it's not just us that you should believe. there are other agencies and there are other maybe even companies that looked at the data and verified our calculation saying yes, we agree with you, this is where it ended up. why don't we know where those groups are? >> they haven't stepped forward. inmarsat is the forerunner because it is their system. it's a very complex and interoperable system. you have satellite companies which may involve several different satellite companies that manufacture them. you have, as i mentioned, honeywell, who manufacturers components onboard the aircraft that automatically adjust for these base frequency offsets and the movement of the satellite and that sort of thing. so when they did this analysis

you have to know there were several ph.d.s sitting in the room doing this from each of these companies including boeing, the installation, the antenna manufacturers, all of these people were in the room together. so to try to reassemble it after the fact would be literally a book ten times this big as this piece of paper. so, you know, i wasn't ever very optimistic that we would be able to sit here and say, yes, that's definitely it. but we're getting closer. i think to me gives me better confidence, there are some key pieces in here that they are in the right place. >> you work with a lot of families after accidents and crashes like this, mary. do you think this should provide any -- not satisfaction but any confidence or provide any kind of comfort to the families? they've been requesting it. the information sought there. what do you make of it? >> well, satisfied that they finally got something. their families are missing.

people overlook how -- they won't give up. they won't go away by saying we won't have to give you the data. it's absurd. they're not going to go away. at least they got the data but they got the data in the rawest form. malaysia took a week or several weeks to put this together because they said they were going to put it in a format usable for the families. the data is there but none of the reasoning behind the data so the families can't have that good feeling like, yes, we have the data. yes, we now see why they're so sure. that second part isn't there. they really deserve that second part. >> thank you so much. and, of course, the search continues. they're now going to start mapping the ocean floor which could take a very long time and then bring in new equipment to begin the search on the ocean floor. once again, they're talking about months looking at even a year to get all of this going and under way. chris? the families are not grading as generously as david soucie. and they want answers. and in a moment we're going to talk to the man who can give

them to them. we're going to auk with the ceo of inmarsat about the data release. you will want to see it coming up. also, the government is shlly at fault for keeping secr secrets, right? now the white house is in hot water for revealing one, blowing a top cia agent's cover. how this happened and can they fix their mistake in time? ahead. ♪ ♪fame, makes a man take things over♪

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. welcome back to "new day." the white house accidentally revealed the identity of the top cia official in afghanistan to 6,000 journalists this week. the agent, the agent's name was inadvertently on a list of people taking part in president obama's surprise visit to afghanistan. the potentially dangerous leak comes just ahead of the president's commencement speech he will be delivering and talking about u.s. foreign policy and delivering that at west point. let's bring in white house correspondent michelle kosinski to discuss how this happened and let's bring in cnn national security correspondent from "the daily beast" josh roggin to continue to discuss. everyone is going to be wondering the same thing and there probably isn't a good answer for it quite yet. how did this happen? >> the pool reporter for this trip asked a white house staffer for a list of the names of people who would be briefing the president there on the ground. that white house staffer asked the military, gave the list to

the reporter, who then distributed it to other members of the press. realize, wait a minute, there is the name and title of the top cia officer in afghanistan. the reporter says he asked the white house staffer and the staffer said, well, it came from the military. it should be fine. realizing only later it was not fine. and this person's cover essentially was blown by his own government. kate? >> josh, how serious is this? >> well, this is catastrophic event for this man's career and potentially for his future as a covert operator both in afghanistan or anywhere else. it could have a catastrophic affect on his family. imagine his friends, coworkers if he has a cover. all of the people in his life who didn't know that he was in the cia now know. not only that, he was in the middle of a very dangerous mission which was to govern the transition of cia forces in afghanistan. if he has to leave afghanistan we don't know yet if he will be pulled but if he comes under danger because he's been exposed

and have to make him leave the country that could hurt the mission there and then hurt our security. >> that was going to be my question to you, josh. what is the mediate fallout? has he begun to receive threats? >> they're debating that right now internally. it's too early to say that he will or will not be pulled. in the past we've seen this happen three times in pakistan, for example. in one of those cases the station chief who was exposed had to be removed from the country and that was the goal of him being exposed. in this case there wasn't any malicious intent. he was just accidentally exposed by his own government. if there's not other things they have to worry about they are to worry about their secrecy kept secret. it's shocking. >> michelle, what is the damage control, i guess, we could say going forward? clearly there is protocol for not including any undercover operative on a list like this and having it be made public.

protocol was broken. what's the damage control now? >> yeah, what it seems to be is just an unfortunate mistake made at the same time essentially by a number of people. cnn talked to the reporter who first got this list and he sort of described it as seeming to be a mistake made by a bunch of people who were kind of junior ranking and did not get enough sleep. first it came from the military, but the white house staffer had made it clear that this was for the press, so the military made a mistake. the white house staffer then didn't notice that that name was on the list. it was the reporter who noticed it. and then it just kind of went back and forth until everybody realized, wait a second, this is a big problem. at this point though the white house isn't commenting, only to say initially please, everyone, do not publish that name. but in a sense, the damage has been done. as josh was saying to this person's career and to the position there in afghanistan. which is a key security concern

for the u.s. >> absolutely. and we are not reporting the name of this top cia official. josh, going back to -- you were talking about it just a second ago. we are at a critical point, the united states, in afghanistan. not only does this do something very -- potentially very bad to this station chief and his family, what's the impact, do you think this will have on operations in afghanistan if he has to be pulled? >> that's a great question because there's important context here. the cia, and we've reported this in "the daily beast" is in the process of transitioning to a post 2014 presence in afghanistan. what that means is they've been running networks of spies all over afghanistan for years. and they're rolling up those networks and trying to change and they are realizing they're going to have to fight this war, this intelligence collection war with a lot less resources and a lot less people and a lot less money than they had been. he was in charge of that. so if he had to leave and someone else is going to have to be in charge of that.

presumably someone else who is not as qualified. that can have a real affect on how that mission goes. around if the transition isn't struck correctly, vital pieces of intelligence could be lost in the muddle and that could have an affect on our ability to anticipate and prepare for threats emanating from afghanistan and even against the homeland. i don't want to paint a too dire scenario here because its hasn't played out yet but we can't afford to take any risks and give away any freebies in the this war on the terrorists who want to attack us from afghanistan. this is an unforced error. it's really the last thing that the intelligence community and military need as they're already fighting a bat with less resources that are going down hopefully some of those details will learn from president billion when he speaks at west point on wednesday. >> on that point, my zeichelmic said the white house is to this point not commenting. do you think president obama will need to address this during the commencement speech when he speaks at west point? >> i don't think it's really a

need to address type situation. he may make mention of it and afghanistan is going to be part of what he's going to be discussing there and key decisions moving forward as to how we define exactly what the u.s. role will be in afghanistan moving forward. but i don't think he's going to get into this gaffe concerning this cia operative. >> a gaffe that could become much more than that. we'll see and have to see this, as josh pointed out, horrible unforced error on the part of the white house. michell michelle, josh, great to see you, thanks. here are some of the big stories starting your "new day." another shooting rampage, another set of warning signs missed. it is time to change the system. but how? we're going to take it on. the flight 370 data finally released but it's raising more questions. we're going to put the criticisms to the ceo of inmarsat. and is diet soda good for dieting?

should be, right? maybe not. a controversial new study to talk about. let's get after all of it. has inmarsat got this right? >> at the moment there's no reason to doubt. top official says they now think they know where hundreds of kidnapped girls are being held. veronica wise is one of the six students whose life was taken in a diabolical killing rampage. >> we got on her icon and located in the middle of a crime scene. we were actually looking a the phone while they were moving her body. good morning. welcome back to "new day." it is tuesday, may 27th. 7:00 in the east. breaking overnight, inmarsat and the malaysian government have released the satellite data used in this search for flight 370. the information includes those handshakes signals used to plot the possible flight path to the

southern indian ocean. so let's bring in cnn aviation correspondent richard quest joining us with more from los angeles. richard, there is good news and bad news this this release. tell us. >> the good news is we have the raw data and we have it in detail. in great laborious detail so we know exactly the information that mh-370 was transmitting not only in the hours beforehand but also those 6 1/2 handshakes. the bad news, we haven't got the surrounding work that will let other people do the -- make their own calculations. inmarsat has given this information to show transparency and to show that they've nothing to hide. but they haven't provided the formulas. for good reason, in many ways, because so many experts were brought to the to do this. you can't necessarily replicate this.

i was given exclusive access to inmarsat and to the man who led the team mark dickinson. and i asked him, when all was said and done, the goal here was transparency, it wasn't to let other people redo the work. >> to be clear, you're letting people make judgments on your work. you're not inviting them to redo your work. >> no. as i say, to redo the work requires experts in many different fields and we gathered those victims within the investigation team to allow that to happen. but this is providing some transparency in terms of what actually data came back and forth between the plane and the ground station and how that data has been subsequently used and our people to see what techniques, what things have been accounted for. so certainly provides i'm hope aggregate deal of transparency in terms of the analysis that's been done by inmarsat and by other teams in the investigation. >> and really what now needs to

happen, chris, is because it's perhaps not entirely reasonable to expect inmarsat to shovel out vast amounts of data from the satelli satellite, from the modem. data they may not even have. other companies may have. what now needs to happen is one or two of those other groups that verified the inmarsat, that were in the room, they're the ones that now need to come out and say, yes, we are the ones who looked at it and we gave it the stamp of approval. >> look, i a very complex situation. we know it involves a lot of high-functioning analysis. but, richard, bottom line, when you want to give confidence to an investigation you come out with the analysis because that's what people want to know. so we're going to talk to the ceo of inmarsat. richard, thank you for chewing on it this morning. let's go to california now. a very sad day ahead. memorial service is planned today for the six victims who

lost their lives in friday's rampage. investigators are trying to learn more about the man behind the violence and learn more about the events leading up to his killing spree. the father of one victim is speaking out about his unmanageable anguish and speaking to cnn. cnn sarah spoke with him in santa barbara this morning. >> we sat down with the father of veronica wise and he simply wanted to talk about his daughter so the world knew who she really was. >> bob weiss had a special bond with his daughter veronica. she was his first born child and he was a stay at home dad until she was 12. >> so i changed her diapers, took her to preschool, taught her how to throw a ball were the two were almost inseparable. veronica, headed off to university less than a year ago, and now her father is having to

do something he cannot bear to do with her, bury her. veronica weiss is one of the six students whose lives were taken in a diabolical killing rampage just days ago. bob and his wife and sons ra s up to the university when they didn't get a phone call from his normally con shens shus daughter. they tracked veronica's cellphone. it was still on. it even began to move but she wasn't answering. how did you know? how were you sure that she was gone? >> we got on her iphone and located it in the middle of the crime scene. and then we actually were looking at the phone while they were moving her body away from the -- probably to take her to the morgue. >> reporter: they knew then that she was one of the girls who died here on the front lawn of the sorority.

>> it's crazy that a kid in that bad of shape could go to three different gun stores and buy an arsenal but it happens all the time. >> she was kind. she was -- she was the person who would reach out to the kids who weren't the popular kids, some of the nerdy kids, some of the kids that were a little bit like this rodger kid described himself as, as being a little bit of an out cast. >> reporter: now the weisses and the other victims' families are left with memories to turn to to remind them of who their children really were. >> the out pouring of support and love. i can say this, when somebody close to you dies, reach out to survivors because even though it feels awkward and you don't have anything to say, every little

word, every little sentence on facebook, it all means something. it means that you're not alone. >> you can hear the pain in his voice and he really is still in shock. he's still trying to understand what has happened and hasn't quite realized that he will never be able to have a conversation with a daughter he said loved her life, ever again. kate? >> i'll take it here, sara. it's important for them all to know that they're not alone. the nation mourns with them. let's get a look at more of your headlines. new this morning, american doctor has been killed after two gunmen opened fire in pakistan. medi ali kumar, cardiologist from ohio, was visiting a graveyard with his wife and toddler when he was shot ten times at close range. officials say he had traveled to the country last week to volunteer at a local heart clinic and to visit relatives.

a stunning claim from top nigerian military official. he says he knows the location of more than 200 schoolgirls kidnapped by radical islamists last month, but the official says using military force to rescue the girls would put them in too much danger. he is refusing to reveal where the schoolgirls are. the pentagon has not confirmed this report. heavy fighting between ukrainian troops and pro-russian separatists in one of the country's volatile eastern cities. there are reports that at least 40 people have been killed in the violence. clashes began monday when separatists stormed the airport at d at. ukrainians's new president is vowing to bring back order to the country's east. memorial day pledge from vice president biden vowing to restore america's sacred obligation to care for our veterans. the vice president spoke at a memorial day event saying the u.s. needs to get to the bottom

of the growing scandal at the department of veterans affairs. cnn has been reporting on allegations of doctored wait times leading to the investigation of 26 va facilities. four minutes after the hour. chris, over to you. >> thank you for that. what do we know about the situation in california? we know there were red flags all over this young man's life. disturbing youtube videos, bizarre behavior, six deputies to assess him. despite all of it, six uc santa barbara students killed, others injured during friday's rampage. when is enough is enough and what is the fix for the system so this doesn't happen again? the questions are obvious. the answers are elusive. let's bring in dr. michael wellner, he will be on capitol hill thursday testifying about representative tim murphy's mental health bill. we've talked about this before.

doctor, to be honest, you've been mentoring me on this issue for over a decade now. we see these cases. am i wrong in judging them as frighteningly familiar, someone who is mentally ill, people knew or didn't know, treatment, avoided treatment, got further isolated, ignored. then when the system gets involved it's not enough, then this happens. do we keep seeing it and why? >> they are frighteningly familiar for a simple reason, they're copycat crimes. there are plenty of people who are socially incompetent and rejected. there are plenty of people who are shy. there are plenty of people who can't get girls. there are plenty of people who are bad at sports. there are plenty of people who are short. they don't embark on a mass killing. and there are plenty of people who are bullied and they don't embark on mass killing. and this has been going on since the beginning of time. and yet we've seen a proliferation of this in recent

years, and we've got to recognize that a person who packages himself in a youtube video and with a long misive, that's not how other people see him. that's how he wants to be seen in a way he thinks is powerful. he makes eye contact with the camera. anybody who knew him said he never made eye contact. they say this is more than they've ever heard of him. and for all the times we say, gee, if they only they got help, he was getting help. he was in therapy. and with that underscores which we've spoken about before is how when a person who is a failure taps into the idea of saying, hey, if i'm destructive on a large scale, the holmes, the lanzs, the others, people will talk about me. they will want to know what it was that made me upset, they will give me legitimacy, everybody will want to know who i am. they package themselves, they

prepare themselves, but that someone who is a false person. it's a made -- it's a made-up pers persona that doesn't represent them but incentivizes the next person who is now watching the youtube video. it's still up there. it's still up there. it's essentially pornography to inspire other people to copycat. mass killing is a copycat crime. >> that's an easy fix. get rid of the youtube videos. get it down. try not to emphasize the personalty of these different killers. try not to glorify them. that's a media responsibility. that can be done. >> yes. >> but there seems to be something more insidious in the process. you've got deputies show up, six of them. they don't know how to talk to someone like this. that's not what they trained to do. they didn't even search his room. they would have found an arsenal and his manifest in intent if they had. he's getting treatment. family knows it, friends know it. nobody can put him away and judge him and assess him.

the system doesn't allow it. how can we allow the system to continue that way? >> we have to appreciate that when people are in crisis, people can be in crisis without having killed yet. people can be in crisis without having suicided yet. >> the mother calls the cops on him. >> that's right. >> says, look at these videos. he's not right. he's deranged. >> we have a system in which families who may have financial responsibility for someone, who may have a custodial responsibility for someone who is a danger don't have the ability to say, look, we see our son. we appreciate that he pulled it together for you, that he was polite, that he was compose and social skills and he does it for his therapist. we see him falling apart. he needs to be in a protected environment. the system has got to change to enable people who are in crisis to receive treatment, to be placed in a safe environment so that they don't endanger themselves or others, and families know, families have to

be involved. >> if they're involved they usually know. so then representative tim murphy works with minds like your own, fashions a bill, goes up there and gets 100 shots in it from different advocacy groups saying you are villainizing the mentally ill. this isn't going to help them. this is going to make it worse. i don't even understand it anymore and i consider myself an advocate on the issue. >> why don't we talk about stigma. people say this stigmatizes the mentally ill. no, what stigmatizes the mentally ill is when someone makes a life choice to be destructive, i did it because i hads aspergers, i did it becaus i had schizophrenia. what happens as a clinician. my patients who have schizophrenia come to me and said i heard someone who had schizophrenia did this am i capable of this? they start to question themselves even in their own virgility and it's up to a doctor to assure them, no, no. who is out there to ensure the employer, gee, if you have

somebody who has aspergers, this isn't aspergers. this is a selfish life choice of someone who wants attention who may or may not have a condition andrpetuates. people who need help who have to have treatment mandated either through commitment or through assertive outpatient care -- >> how do you mandate treatment if someone doesn't want it? >> the law doesn't allow it but the murphy bill enables standards to be revised to gravely mentally ill so that people who deny illness, who don't have tin sight to get treatment but who really represent a great risk to themselves and to these because their condition is deteriorating, that treatment can be provided for them, that commitment can be under those circumstances. >> right now the law, you probably know this, i hope you don't if you had to experience it but you can only hold someone

72 hours involuntarily and then they get a court date. usually, you know, if they're sneaky in hiding their instability they get out. and that's very frustrating for so many people. does the bill address it? >> the bill begins to address it. once it gets out of exit tee and people talk about the 72 hour hold and parameters of commitment. right now what we don't have is a situation where families are involved in communicating with doctors when they see a crisis is causing sunday someone to fall down, fall apart. and the commitment laws are so tight that law enforcement, whatever their training, whatever their training, and mental health professionals could see someone like that in a emergency room and say, you know something, even if i have a funny feeling about this person i cannot commit the person and i can't hold them. the murphy bill will address and change that and it's essential for all of us who are saying we have to do something. there are many areas we can fix. we can make fixes to gun laws. we can make fixes to the media,

as you say. the mental health fix, the murphy bill is a mental health fix because it involves family. it enhances communication between doctors and family at times of crisis. it deals with crisis in such a way that people who are in crisis and don't get it and don't want to get it because he was invested in being destructive, that we can protect the general public rather than let the illness or the condition or the selfish choice run the situation because sometimes people who are in crisis aren't psychotic. but they're about to do something catastrophic. we we've got to get away from the ideas of equating mental health crisis with psychosis. the two are not interchangeable. it's about people willing to make desperate choices. in this case because they'll get attention, but sometimes it's about a person who may be about to kill their children. >> thursday, you go down to the capitol. i know, i've heard your

frustration in the past, as the story fades, so does the urgency to fix it. not this time. do your testimony. let us know how it goes. come back on the show on friday. >> thank you. but my testimony is not the only thing. the american people, if they are outraged, the families of the victims, if they are outraged, the people who need help whose parents and families cannot close that gap have to be involved and tell their congressmen, forget the parties, forget the parties, you have solutions in front of you. listen to the man whose son died and said we put you there to make solutions. call your congressman now. tell them, house bill 3717, you must supposrt it, you must tell your colleagues to support it and pass it now because the fixes are in front of us. people have been working at this for a while. we don't want it to happen again. it will happen again if we don't make these kinds of choices and it will get worse because copycats always try to outdo one another.

and that's a terrible lesson to learn. >> harsh but true. dr. welner, thank you. we will stay on it with you. i promise you that. coming up next on "new day," the satellite data used in the search for flight 370 has been released but is there information missing? so what is missing? we're going to talk with sarah bajc, her partner was on the flight and she was one of the people leading the charge to get this information released. we'll get her take. also ahead, michelle obama is taking on congress over school lunch. that and more on "inside politics." [female announcer] we grow big celebrations,o. and personal victories. we grow new beginnings, and better endings. grand gestures, happier happy hours.

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after months of pleading coming from the families of the flight's passengers is it enough? joining us now, sarah bajc, one of the people who sleed tefg for the calling for the release of this data. her partner philip wood was an american passenger on that flight. sarah, it's great to see you. thanks smouch for tao much for time. >> you're welcome. >> of course. the data is released. what is your initial reaction. are you satisfied? >> my initial reaction is that we're a little disappointed yet again that the malaysian government has chosen to manipulate information before it's been released. you know, i'd like to do a little reset on this conversation. it isn't about data this and data that. it's about transparency and third-party validation of analogies that drive where's we look for the plane. right? the entire focus of the family initiative is to find the airplane. and that should be the focus of

the entire world because every time somebody gets on an airplane they should be very worried that it could go missing again. so, you know, what they asked for more than eight weeks ago is that the raw information, so all of the information that was used to determine where the airplane went, was released for third-party review. we also asked for the data from that exact same airplane, so the same flight but from the days prior so that you could have some validation of, you know, its exact timings and locations and ping data from that exact same flight to create some modeling but they didn't release that either. so the game is just continuing. i don't understand. it's almost intentional that they don't want to find the plane. so they keep playing games with us hoping that we're going to get tired and go away. it's just making people more and more angry. >> the data that was released really requires even if it was

modified, you believe manipulated. it requires expert knowledge in understanding what they're trying to give you. what are you going to do with the data to better understand what they've offered? >> well, within a few minutes of so receiving it it was pushed out to a dozen people who were experts in the industry. it was not marked as confidential. it was an open document that could be sent out and clearly they published it publicly as well. some of those people worked together and some of them are independent analysis groups in different countries around the world. they had all been prepared with mathematical models that they had been using with guesses at information. so now they have real information to go through. of that 47 pages there's really only about 18 data sets that are relevant to conducting analysis. that's information we didn't have before. so the question now is just whether or not running this set of -- this 18 data points

through the mathematical models that have been created by other people will arrive at the same or a different result approximately when we first asked for this data ten weeks ago it was meant to be helpful, right? we didn't expect it to turn into a circus of back and forth. we thought that the malaysian government wanted to cooperate in finding the airplane. so as a family group we reached out to the community and asked for help and people were volunteering help, to do peer review of something that we thought was a pretty factual thing. >> so now the data is going to experts. they will bring back what they have. do you believe in your heart that it's going to lead you to a different conclusion than what inmarsat and those who have analyzed it to this point, where they've ended up? >> i do believe it will leave us -- lead us to a different point because the point that has been looked at so far is clearly

wrong. we've looked at it and there's nothing there. whether that's 100 kilometer shift in one direction or it's completely the opposite arc, it's northern arc instead of the southern arc, i have no idea. honestly, the numbers on that page make no sense to me at all. but the analysis that is given to me by the experts that we've given it to does make sense and they are all going to do their very best to try to validate or refute the findings of inmarsat. >> and sarah, at this point, the search area where they are right now, that search area -- that search effort is going to be ending. they will be pickinging ba up the search when they have new specialized -- other specialized equipment to use and also after they map the ocean floor in this very wide area that they want to cover. what do you do until then? >> i think until they have

determined with fair certainty that the plane went down in a particular part of the ocean, i think they should put the ocean searching on hold. i mean, honestly, as much as i want to find that plane, i don't believe we should be wasting the resources of australia and the other countries that are involved hunting someplace that we have no idea if it's correct. right? i mean, they've already done a lot of searching in that area and there's been nothing that's come up including to this day, zero wreckage, none, nothing floating in the ocean anywhere in that zone. not on beaches. not in fishing nets. that is a highly suspicious gap right there. so we really need to rethink things and reserve those resources until we have a little more certainty that we're looking in the right spot. >> that is quite a statement coming from you who along with all the other family members of flight 370 want nothing more than finally some evidence one way or the other of where philip and the other passengers are.

sarah, thank you very much for your time. we will speak with you soon. chris? all right, kate. complaints that malaysia didn't release enough information and now complaints that the white house released too much. coming up on "new day," how did the government accidentally blow the cover of a top cia agent? now what can they do? we'll tell you on "inside politics." ups is a global company, but most of our employees live in the same communities that we serve. people here know that our operations have an impact locally. we're using more natural gas vehicles than ever before. the trucks are reliable, that's good for business. but they also reduce emissions, and that's good for everyone. it makes me feel very good about the future of our company. ♪

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memory filled. >> i was here yesterday. i missed you guys but i'm glad you are back in the saddle on tuesday. there's a lot to talk about. with me this morning to share their reporting ask margaret of bloomberg news, jonathan martin of the "new york times." let's start it with michelle obama, she will be out today doing an event on healthy school lunches. most of you are probably saying so what, she talks about that a lot. but house republican are trying to undermine the nutrition standards she had to get passed a few years back. if the school district thinks it's too costly they can opt out. it's not often she directly pushes policy. >> on two levels. we're watching to find out who prevails in this. but two, of course we're watching to find out how publicly she will put herself out there and take on congress. the minute you start putting waivers into legislation, it's the undermining of the bill and the slippery slope. they're going after something maybe the only thing that's

really near and dear to her. >> does this have to be a fight you get from some of the critics? this is big brother, why is washington telling kids what they can and cannot eat. her argument is look at the obesity statistics, look at type ii diabetes statistics. 97,000 public schools in this country this is a way to directly impact health. >> she has chosen this issue to be her legacy issue. that's why she is so passionate about it. there are some folks in obama's orbit who say perhaps half seriously that perhaps she could run herself one day for something. she obviously denies that, laughs at it. this is the kind of thing you can see her passion, when it does come to a policy side. >> at 2:00 this afternoon we'll see when she makes that statement. you mentioned somebody who might be first lady and might run for something else, there's a book coming out from the former secretary of state and the former first lady and hillary

clinton, reported in politico's plate book this morning. she says this in the author's note, talk of america's decline has become commonplace but my faith in our future has never been greater. she says, if you're a washington insider expecting a lot of dirt that's not what this book is about. it's about her vision at the state department. were bewuk about it we talked last week about karl rove who was suggesting perhaps she had a brain injury. now he says that's not what he meant. he does say that hillary clinton is going back to the future. >> in american politics, there's a sense that you want to be new, that you don't want to be too familiar, you want to be something flesh, you don't want to be something that's old and stale. >> very vague there but old and stale? >> yeah. >> ouch. >> i mean, gee, do you see a theme here possibly? i mean, really. i think that women's groups are going to be paying increasingly more attention to the way he tries to frame her because when you say old and stale right

after you accuse somebody of having permanently injured their intellectual capacity when they fall down you're trying to paint a picture and see if it sticks. he's doing it carefully where they're supposedly off the record or friendly audiences. this is not by accident. >> no. in fact, i talked to him last june, almost a year ago exactly, for a story i did about how the republicans are going to try to frame her as yesterday's news. he was saying some of the same things then. this had been a longstanding plan of the republican party for over a year now to try and frame her as yesterday and whoever their nominee is tomorrow, assuming it's going to be someone who is in her his or her 40s. >> what if their nominee is a guy named bush. sibling rivalry from time to time from george w. and jeb bush. can't you make the same argument then if jeb bush were to run? going back in time to the of other dynasty?

>> that's going to challenge they have. and i think a lot of the strategy is predicated on nominating someone from the next generation. but you're right, if jeb does get in the ring it does nullify the whole legacy, you know, line of attack. part of the -- i think the strategists have recognized it does take away an important weapon. >> completely switch gears and pretend that never happened. for now rove is betting that it's not. >> in politics, not so dirty little secret, team w. and team jeb, tension from time to time. let's move on to another dirty little secret that is not so secret. you were in the troop that went over to see the troops in afghanistan memorial day. scott wilson asked the white house for a list of people who would be briefing the president. the military grave the press aide the list and it hads the name of the cia station chief in

afghanistan on it which is a major faux pas. could completely undermine if not significantly undermine this gentleman's career. what happened? >> that's right. it was indeed the mistake of the military on the first part for providing a list they had been told was going to be released publicly and white house's mistake for furthering it. to scott's credit he did see what happened but only after he forwarded the list for the first pool list. the press pool that covered this was brought into an actual spread where the president was given a briefing where everyone had name tags in front of them. i'm not sure if he had a name tag with the cameras on. these things move so quickly most of us who was there was not aware of what happened until it already happened. >> valerie tweeted yesterday, astonishly, the white house mistakenly identifies cia chief in afghanistan. is this a second term mistake,

tired military person in afghanistan? >> it does strike me as when it rains it pours. this guys are going through a rough patch and feel good event to go in and support the troops, they can't even do that without something going wrong. >> among the memorial day festivities one included the vice president surrounded by bicycle guys. when he says he's keeping an eye on something in the government, guess what, he usually does. >> that is a si kracred obligat. and we're behind right now. the va is having problems and we've got to get to the bottom of it. >> candid statement there, low key in his tone. he has ambitions me might run for president. if he's worried about the federal government he will pick up the secretary and say, what are you doing? >> he will express the sort of personal regret that anybody has

when you're in the government and this is going on. i think that's to the administration's credit. >> he served, too, abroad, so he's personally familiar with the war. >> it's good for him to talk about it publicly. on that, let's watch this funny moment. watch joe biden closely here. he's a devout catholic here. one of the speakers introducing him suggests he might have further ambitions. keep your eye on the vice president. >> at some point in the future joe is going to run for president again. and so we -- >> you got to love him. >> he always says always assume the microphone is on. >> yeah. who is the guy in the bike -- >> joe's running mate. biden and that guy 2016. >>off got to love that. >> the cross is great. >> margaret, jonathan, thanks for getting up. we have another funny. do the cuomo brothers have a boy band because martin o'malley, thinking about run for

president. look at him here. standing on the street in annapolis just in case this presidential ambitious things works out, trying out for another job there. kate, can you play the banjo? >> no, my brother-in-law can. can you, chris? >> hell, no, i can't play the banjo. >> i can see a cuomo brother. >> cuomos don't banjo. we're italians. >> albany kids on the block. >> i love that. i'm going tell the governor when i see him today, john. great idea. >> i like it. i like it. what would you play in your boy band? >> tambourine, triangle. >> and you're trashing this banjo? >> i could play the drums. >> what would andrew play? >> andrew would play security. >> you're head of the drums. >> he would be security. >> love it. all right. see you later, john. thank you. coming up next on "new day," satellite data from flight 370's final moments, it has finally be made public but is there something missing? we're going to talk to the ceo

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so one of the big stories this morning is that the malaysians and inmarsat have finally released the raw data from flight 370. many are not satisfied, saying crucial information like the formula used to plot 370's flight path is still midsing. so let's discuss this with someone who can certainly answer the questions, mr. rupert pierce, the ceo of inmarsat. thank you for joining us. the main proposition is you put out this data. what do you believe you put out and why do you think it should be satisfying? >> well, i think the first thing that needs to be said, chris, is decisions to put out information from the air accident investigation is a decision made by the malaysian government as a leading country in the investigation. we're very, very happy to support the publication of the information overnight. and we hope that that malays a lot of fears from the families of loved ones on the flight in

terms of the investigation activities. what's gone out today are the raw data communication logs over our network. so it's all of the information that we have that passed between our network and the plane during the fateful hours when the flight was lost, so it's everything. we put everything out there that -- in terms of the communications between our network and plane itself or, more specifically, our antenna on the plane that was communicating with the network at regular intervals ready to do business to move data even though in terms of the cockpit we believe that the data communication system is switched off. so there's nothing else we can provide in terms of those data communications logs. >> okay. so let's take on the two major points of pushback. you referred to timing and saying that this was the malaysian government that needed to say they wanted to release it. they, as you know, had put it on you and said if you want the data, go to inmarsat.

so was the malaysian government essentially throwing you under the bus or was there some confusion between you and this country as to who was in control of releasing the data? >> well, it's very clear that inmarsat is a contributor and a participant in the investigation and subject to confidentiality to the investigation, to the authorities running the investigation. and the only person who can make a decision to release data that is the subject of that investigation is the leading country. so there's always been malaysia's decision to do that. i would stress that we have always been extremely happy to put out all of our work, all of our materials to be made public so they can look at it and form their own judgment. >> the second point of pushback is is that without understanding how you dwlused the data to arr at your conclusions it is more difficult for third parties to come in and assess a different

or more effective way to use the data. why did you not provide your analysis for a point of transparency if not completeness for the request? >> well, what we provided is all the data that we have availability from which we could derive a model an an analysis. in fact, what's going on within the investigation is they've looked at the composite materials, all sorts of information from different sources having nothing to do with inmarsat, for example, radar data. it's also been subject to a number of different models that are constructed from the ground up by different experts working within the investigation process, which, as we said on numerous occasions, broadly agree with our conclusions and our own model. there's nothing particularly proprietarily unique with our model and the data. they can put their own models together and provide their own conclusions. >> but that's not what is

wanted, what they want is your model, your analysis, so they can understand how you arrived at the conclusion. i don't understand why you wouldn't want to put that out there from a point of confidence in your own conclusions and transparency. >> we have absolutely no problem putting our model in the public domain and that is a decision for the leading country to put out there. it's clearly information, materials, and workings that we've contributed into the investigation so the proper decision making around that lies with the malaysian government. >> have they told you not to put it out and have you asked to put it out? >> i don't know the answer to that question. we're happy with full disclosure. we're happy putting everything -- all of our workings and material out there for people to have a good look at and contribute to. >> you know the answer to the second question, which is have you asked the malaysian authorities to allow you to put it out because you say you want

transparency and certainly this is what people want to see. >> well, we would be perfectly happy to put that model out. what we've been asked to put out, to agree to so far has been dissemination of the raw data, log of communication data across the network which is what came out today. there's obviously a lot more information inside the investigation team, dirfferent models, different working, variety of different information that go to create a three-dimensional picture of what may have gone on. so it's clearly possible to make further disclosures. what we got together is all of the data communications that inmarsat has. >> trust the suggestion that if you were to put out your model it would go a long way with the families and interested third parties in assessing the conclusions arrived atlanta potential other avenues of analys analysis. please let us know when you've made that request to the

malaysian government so that we can follow up with them and see how they won't allow you to if that's their response. >> well, obviously our hearts go out to the -- those of the 239 people who loved ones and the families and friends of those who appear to have been lost on this aircraft. it's not lost on us that these people need to find closure and any information they can get hold of is is valuable to them. and we continue to work with a large team support the investigation team in moving things forward. >> thank you very much from mr. pearce for coming on. please, let us know when that request is made so we can push this forward. thank you. kate? coming up next on "new day," a new study suggests drinking diet soda may be better for losing weight than drinking water. is it too good to be true? medical experts are weighing in next. [ laughter ] smoke? nah, i'm good. [ male announcer ] celebrate every win with nicoderm cq, the unique patch with time release smartcontrol technology

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all right. if you are a diet soda drinker, trying to lose weight, a new study could maybe give you hope. the study is funded by the beverage industry that showed people who drank diet soda lost more weight than those who did not including those who drank water alone. might not be that simple. here to tell us more, dr. elizabeth cohen and a physician at nyu medical center and a professor of medicine at nyu. let's get beyond the headline. scroll down. tell us the ins and outs of the study. who lost what and where? >> they did the study, michaela, because of indication if you

drink diet soda it will make you crave sugar, you'll eat more and gain more weight. let's put it to the test. they took 300 people overweight, diet soda drinkers and split them in half. half were allowed to keep drinking diet soda, half were not, no more soda for you. these people started out around 205 pounds. after three months, the diet soda drinkers lost 13 pounds, and those told not to drink diet soda lost 9 pounds. why? something magical about diet soda? that's not the answer. the answer, they think, because when they gave up the diet soda they started craving something to make them happy, basically. they liked their diet soda. so instead, they maybe drank juice or maybe ate chocolate or did something else that overcompensated. >> doctor, how they conducted the study is important, too. if any diet they were on, exercising, a lot of things we

don't know. >> right. we know for both groups they were given a program where they were educated about the exercise and portion craontrol, all of these things but we don't know what they ate and how many calories consumed. you can't have non-nutrasweet, but in sweetened beverages. >> a lot of ways to cover up -- >> even the older studies elizabeth mentioned, maybe there is a connection between diet soda and weight gain were longer term studies with more patients or subjects in it. still, i think the data is scanty, at best, for both sides of this equation. bottom line is diet soda is not the key to weight loss or weight gain. look at your overall picture of what you're eating in total and how much you're exercising. >> isn't diet soda bad for you? >> the long-term effects -- >> in the long term, it changes your metabolism and your body gets all of this sweet stuff, it's not actually sugar.

your body doesn't know what to do with it, might not be so great for you. this is scanty, we don't know. doctors disagree. be empowered and make your own decision. if you're a diet soda drinker and it works for you, keep drinking it. if it doesn't work -- >> keep everything in moderation. i don't think ten sodas a day, diet or otherwise, are good for anyone. i really don't. two or month. keeping it to two or less, probably won't make a big difference. >> the first thing they go for in the morning and -- >> two's a lot. >> two diet sodas a day -- >> i even -- >> i know a lot of people -- >> chug them down. >> should we even call it diet soda? >> it does have calories. >> but it doesn't necessarily make you lose weight. i think, their own study shows that. >> it's certainly not going to -- there's nothing in the soda that's going to cause you to lose weight but it may cause

you to not eat other more high calorie foods or drinks. >> replacing it. the thought when the sodas came out years ago. instead of drinking a regular soda you're going to drink a diet soda. >> why is it "so bad"? >> less calories. >> when they recesses, were e did it with cigarettes and different foods. can't put things on certain boxes how you describe a food, diet soda. why is it diet? well, i won't drink regular soda. that's not good enough. i think it's misleading. >> always a delight to have you both here. >> thanks. >> now i crave one. >> no, no! >> coming up on "new day" as i drink my diet coke, details emerging about the 22-year-old man responsible for the murder of six students. this story is painfully familiar. so what do we do about it? we have experts here weighing in on what the fix is, and what warning signs were missed this time. new car!

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good morning, and welcome back to "new day." released, the satellite inmarsat used to find mh-370. cnn aviation correspondent richard quest is here with more joining us from los angeles this morning. richard, lay it out. it's confusing, yes. we thought it would be. what's the good news here? >> reporter: the good news is that the raw data is now out there, and others will be able to see that, a, it exists. b, the extremity of or, c, thes forty of information they based the search. the bad news, they haven't given the full analysis, their workings, add was put so elegantly, they haven't shown the mathematics how they got to their answers, and as chris put it to the ceo of inmarsat a moment ago, it is the absence of that information that really --

it's as if you've been told where the destination is, but you haven't been told the route map by which you got to get there and inmarsat is very deliberate, i spoke with the man who actually did the work and he was quite clear. putting this information out was designed just to show people what they had. >> to be clear, you're letting people make judgments on your work. you're not inviting them to re-do your work. >> no. i say, re-do the work requires experts in many different fields, and we gathered those experts within the investigation team to allow that to happen, but this is providing transparency in terms of what actual data came back and forth between the plane and the ground station and how that data is being su subsequently used.

i'm hoping in terms of the analysis done by inmarsat and other teams in the investigation. >> reporter: so, kate, what needs to happen now, if inmarsat is going to provide the rest of their formulas so far and good, otherwise, other organizations that did do the research, whether it's boeing, the pa aib, ntsb, uncle top, whoevm, whoeve they have to say we looked at this, the numbers, we're happy with them. >> you noted the ceo saying to chris they're happy to provide more information than what was provided, but that still is up to the malaysian government. do you think that is going to happen? >> reporter: i think there's a little bit of, a bit of wiggle room there. >> uh-huh. >> reporter: in march s.a.marsa be blunt. inmarsat put out the information they wanted to put out. they could have said we'd like

to put out more, this and that. i can't see the malaysians raising an objection. the difficulty is how they would have done it, because it's not only their stuff. it's honeywell's with the satellite coordinations. it's boeing's performance indicators. there's a huge number of people that sat in the room and contributed, and they all have to be onboard, if you're going to release the formula, and i -- i'm pretty certain that was a big factor in what was released. who owns what? and who would agree? >> maybe also, then, a factor in why the delay in getting this information out? >> oh, right. oh, oh, i can tell you. i've been close to this from the get-go, as they say, and the negotiations between malaysia, inmarsat, all the other parties. the australians. everybody had to be onboard to

come together with an agreed formula, and then malaysia is the conduit for it. i think it's unfair in some sense to blame any one party here. there are so many toes to be trodden on, so many risks to be taken, and as you -- you were right to point out. out mitt ultimately it's the families saying, hang on. don't forget about us. we're the ones who need to know. >> they've been asking for this information and don't even know what they got in the end and if it's going to lead them anywhere to this point. richard, thank you so much. chris? this morning, nor maanother shooting. a man who left behind a trail of carnage and many red flags that were missed. we're live in santa barbara with

more. sarah? >> reporter: chris, this community is in mourning, and you might imagine, these families who lost these students who were just starting to blossom in their adult lives here in school, all of the victims are between the ages of 19 and 20, and we are hearing more now from some of the families who were directly affected by this rampage. vigils held across california honoring all six uc santa barbara students killed in the deadly shooting and stabbing rampage by 22-year-old elliot rodger before apparently taking his own life. >> we don't want our kids to get hurt. it shouldn't happen to any family. >> reporter: parents, incoal solable, including the mother of weihan wang. one of three repeatedly stabbed in the apartment. >> i don't understand why this happened to me. >> reporter: this 21-year-old

remember thirg studious and happy friend. >> never had any enemies, always super friendly. a really good guy. absolutely did not deserve this. >> reporter: the sheriff says the gunman was apparently severely mentally disturbed and for at least a year planning to attack and kill women, and those he saw as the popular kids. taping this youtube video titled "retribution." >> love, affection, adoration. you think i'm unworthy of it. that's a crime that can never be forgiven. >> reporter: rodger outlined his dre grievances in a diatribe. i will kill them all and make them suffer just as they have made me sufferone of his classmates mentioned in the document, describing him as quiet. >> he didn't say much. i don't remember him saying anything. he only spoke when he was spoken to. >> reporter: a family friend says rodgers family feel a pivotal moment was missed last night when a well-being check

was made on rodger after his mother discovered chilling videvideo s he posted online. documenting his loneliness and misery. authorities found nothing. >> we'd like to believe we can collect all the evidence and identify mass murderers before they act but we simply cannot do it. >> reporter: now, uc santa barbara is closing the campus today. they are focusing on the victims, focusing and trying to help the families heal. there will be a mourning ceremony here instead. michaela? >> important to remember those young lives lost. focus on that memorial today and keep those people in our hearts for sure. thank you so much. this morning, a top nigerian military official says he knows the location of nearly 300 schoolgirls kidnapped by radical islamists last month, but the official says using military force to rescue the girls would put them in too much danger. those girls were abducted from their school last month.

they've only been seen in this video since then. our arwa damon is live in abuja niger with the very latest. arwa? >> reporter: we have been trying to make a round of phone calls to various spokespeople and officials here to try to determine exactly what the defense chief meant by, we know the location of these girls. have they managed to, given that they have been running numerous aerial surveillances pinpointed the location of these girls or was this just another statement to appease the frustration anding a zioty of the parents? taking the military option off the table, understanding that, trying to launch that would prove to be challenging if not impossible even with the best of militaries. about a week ago we spoke to do boko haram informants who lived among its members telling us they have not doubt boko haram would not hesitate to use these

girls as human shields. understandable, then that no nigerian official would want to say that a military operation would be worth risking these girls' lives even further. negotiations also phenomenally difficult given boko haram is not a top-down organization. these girls are believed to have been split into various smaller groups and each cell has its own leadership. so at this stage, even if it is true that their location has been specified, bringing them home safely is going to pose an incredibly large challenge. >> and there's the question, arwa, how do we get them home otherwise? thank you so much for that update for us. over to ukraine where heavy fighting continued in one of the most intense eastern cities. about 40 people have been killed. separatists declared control of

the dondanysk. >> we saw 31 bodies, many of them militants destroyed very badly by a mixture of bullets and heavy weapons. a real sign there of the casualties sustained by the pro-russian separatists and heavy fighting at the airport. we went to many were killed. a truck hit it seemed by heavy military. we saw when they tried to bring the bodies away and bring in medical aid. some locals tried to take some bodies away from that morgue to identify them and bury them, although pro-ukrainian officials are suggesting some may include, in fact, foreigners. two other worrying things. i've just spoke ton a separatist spokeswoman who says to me she heard online the government gave them between noon and 3:00, that's now, to leave the city or face bombing. that deadline has passed and also the osce, that's a monitoring group which has been charged here by both moscow and

kiev and washington, everyone agreed, to monitoring the situation. they say they've just lost contact with four of their observers since monday evening to the east of donesk. the last ended up held prisoner by separatists. certainly concerns are high. >> really concerning as you said and an intense emerging moment mow moment. nick paton walsh, thanks. coming up on "new day," youtube videos, concerns from the family, run-ins with the cops. six deputies coming to assess his stability, yet nothing could stop the california killer. how do we prevent this kind of mass murder going forward? there are answers. there are solutions. why aren't they being put to use? "smart talk" straight ahead. also ahead, the inmarsat data for flight 370 released overnight. our experts are going through it and ready to weigh in on it. what's in the data and perhaps more importantly, what's missing?

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new details emerge about the 22-year-old who went on a rampage near a college campus on friday killing six. relatives, friends, neighbors, all seem to know the young man was beyond disturbed. losing touch with reality. so why couldn't he be stopped? joining us now, dr. kasey jordan, criminology, attorney, professor of justice and law administration, and retired police detective steve kardian. steve, you don't need to be a detective or a big brain to understand that this guy was a threat to himself and others. yes? >> he was a threat to himself

and others. of course, we know that now, but at the time law enforcement came to his house they sent six officers, took it very serious. the bar is high for doing that 51-50, where we're going to actually grab him and put him in an institution for evaluation for 72 hours. >> why is the bar so high? >> because we have constitutional rights and don't want a slippery slope in our law where we can civilly commit our doddy aunt. you have to have imminent dangerousness. when you have somebody saying they have thoughts, that cannot be intrinsically determined to act on them. you have to act on it before you can be committed. in this particular case from the time he issued that manifesto to the time he fired the bullets as minutes. there was not time to interact. >> i would disagree with that. >> under the law. >> yes, you're totally right. but means of opportunity.

the guy had a cache of guns at his house, wrote a 140 page manifesto all he was thinking about how to pull it off. the case is right there? >> the ka case is made after th fact. >> deputies searched his home? >> we're not violating his rights unless we have reason to do so. >> looking at videos on line. he's my kid. something's wrong. that's not probable cause? >> we need more. such as had they found the guns. a lot of yellow flags but not red flags until after the fact. >> what does it mean that you are both right yet this situation is so wrong? how many times do i have to say what i just said? i've read that same tell, no offense to the writers, many times about many states and many people. is the reality this won't change, because the law makes more sense as it is? or is it time for a change that makes more sense?

>> it's absolutely time for a change. you've got to understand that mental illness is not this black and white thing. it is an ocean of gray. it's a spectrum, and interpreting that should not actually fall on officers. it should fall on mental health professionals. i would love to see every large police democrat, every police department, actually, have an on-call mental health professional. a psychiatrist, psychiatric social worker to go do the work with them and charged with making assessment whether this person is an imminent danger. not under the law but under mental health profession. >> is imminent law -- that's a lunatic standard. you go back and trace in the law, they made the bar very high, because what we used to have. used to have a rash of institutionalizations, you referred to with aunt polly. one in every 100 new yorkers at one point was institutionalized. a too expensive, weren't treated. geraldo exposed willow brook and we didn't want it and we let them out. did we go too far the other way?

>> we did, but in every one of these cases there's someone that knows something, and if they don't get it to the authorities, and in this case they did, but he was so convincing. that soesh ciopathic personalitn be persuasive and very believable. >> what does that tell us? >> it is not illegal to have legal facts, but maybe the act can be. putting the act on video. maybe the act can be writing it down in a manifesto. make it easier to take the thoughts that are now, we call it leakage, coming out and manifesting themselves in things the person is saying and doing, and low are the bar to where that action by itself can be criminalized and you can get that 72-hour examination to see whether or not this person's potentially dangerous. not imminently, potentially. >> you're using latin parts that describe the league basis for a crime.

actis reous is the bad thing. the overwhelming majority are not violent. we're not talking about that. we don't want to send a stigma. when dealing with a psychotic, near psychotic, why put them in the box with a robber or murderer? why don't we have special designations? we've seen the need. this is the same story every time. >> first of all, in our culture we stigmatize mental illness. it would be really nice not to do that. you shouldn't have to be naked and dancing in a parking lot to get yourself committed. the idea of the evil thoughts leaking out through things that people say, things that they want their families to know, the family called the police. you can't really blame the family or the police. the laws have to change and maybe it will take a supreme court decision. everyone's afraid of being sued. they're afraid if they actually violate somebody's first amendments rights or fourth amendments right, to be safe in the person, violate privacy

they're going to be sued. make it easier. make them protected and you will see change. >> are you surprised the mental health agencies are coming out against the murphy bill that addresses a lot of these things and lowers the bar, makes it easier to put someone in an involuntary state of being analyzed? >> we are afraid of returning to that place where people can be committed against their will. "one flew over the cuckoos nest." there has to be middle ground. we remove the stigma people will not resist the information that will get them the help they need. >> what are the chances, steve, if we don't make a change you and i will have this conversation? >> they have to lower the bar, remove the liability and put public sayy first and foremost. >> the sickening part for me is, i've had people, maybe not at attractive or smart, been told this for years and now you have a representative trying to change it and he's getting pushback. we're going to stay on it.

thank you for being on. >> good to be here. >> pleasure. still no sign of flight 370, but overnight a victory of sorts for family members of the missing passengers. they finally have access to satellite data they've didn't asking for, really, since the beginning. we're going to break down what is in this data release, and what is not. ke? nah, i'm good. [ male announcer ] celebrate every win with nicoderm cq, the unique patch with time release smartcontrol technology that helps prevent the urge to smoke all day long. help prevent your cravings with nicoderm cq. ♪ hooking up the country whelping business run ♪ that helps prevent the urge to smoke all day long. ♪ trains! they haul everything, safely and on time. ♪ tracks! they connect the factories built along the lines. and that means jobs, lots of people, making lots and lots of things. let's get your business rolling now, everybody sing. ♪ norfolk southern what's your function? ♪ ♪ helping this big country move ahead as one ♪ ♪ norfolk southern how's that function? ♪

good to have you back with us. overnight, the inmarsat data released to cal late when the flight most likely ended its journey. now that we have it, what do we know? we're joined from mary and david, a cnn safety analyst and former faa inspector. the right two people to crunch through this. i looked through this. a lot of numbers, mary. one has to ask, is there more needed? when you look at all of that, what is missing for you? >> well, there is more needed, and what's missing is what inmarsat did with the data. i thought chris' interview with the ceo of inmarsat was very interesting because he said they had given the information to the malaysian authorities and wanted them, didn't mind if they released it. that's the piece that's still missing but not to take away from what the families asked for

and got, they have the information to give to independent investigators, mathematicians to look at that. so they have the raw data but i think the rest of the inmarsat data should be released, but it's a good step. the next step forward. >> and in context, i heard you earlier, david, say, they haven't shown their map? we remember that from school? don't we? they haven't sthoen their map, the formula, how this data was processed. absent that, how effective will this information, this raw data, be to an independent investigator? >> well, i've spoken with several of them, especially mike exner, doing this analysis who feels there's still information missing he needs, of course, to reverse engineer this or come up with the information. for example, they just give references to channels instead of actual frequency of channel. there's a lot left that's on the table that needs to be answered for sure. >> and, mary, we know, and even the ceo in speaking with chris talked about the fact that this

was a move of transparency. that was the importance of releasing this. was is transparent enough? >> no. and i think mr. pearce talking to chris made it very clear that inmarsat wants it released, and why the malaysian officials, the investigators chose not to do that is a question, perhaps they didn't want people going off and doing independent analysis, but that's kind of contrary to an air safety and air crash investigation. you want to make this available, especially at the end of the investigation, because that's the purpose of it. an air investigation, air crash investigation, is to improve safety in the long run. it's going to be important to get that out. it will come out eventually and i think mr. pearce said it best, they want it out. >> eventually, goodness sakes, three months in? how much more eventually can the families bear? speaking with sarah bacj. she said the families are

looking for the flight data, same plane from previous flights, they didn't get that data. what insight could that provide? >> comparative data. in other words, the base frequency offset and other informations in there, able to compare to previous flights. especially if the aircraft had take's the same route, but that stuff changes day by day, and route by route. so what's more important to me is the fact that the information about the aircraft analysis they did since the accident, where they looked at the aircraft flying to the north and flying to the south and said before that the reason they know that it's in the south is because of that information it was provided but they don't have the that information. they didn't show that work either, but there might be reasons for that. the fact this is a very complex system. it involves honeywell, boeing, other manufacturers and all of those people were it issing at the take when they did this. so it's, i think, optimistic of us to expect that all of that would be released. there's a lot of legal reasons

why it can't be. there are other things going on. so as mary said it will come out eventually, but it's going to take some time. >> all of this raw data released, does it change to you the investigation? does it change to you the search? you said, and i've heard you say it, you believe it's mechanical looking at this raw data now? >> yes. and this actually supports that, in my mind, because if you look down on page 39 of this document, it actually talks about the very specific time when the acars data came off-line and there's something significant that happens at that point. that is, that the base frequency offset prior to that only 135 had jumped up to 270-something which is a significant difference, saying that the inmarsat system, the equipment, was trying to make up for a dramatic movement or change in the data, which would indicate that the acars system had lost its information, or that something else mcnickly or

electrically had affected the information bus on the aircraft, the 429 bus. so we're going to be able to get a lot of information off of that for sure. >> there's a lot of information in this data. minds far brighter than mine for sure need to look at it. thank you for helping us make sense of this. appreciate it. now we want to take you to this week's "impact your world." when british golfer justin rose moved to the u.s. in 2004 he and his wife were surprised to learn how many american families struggle just to put food on the table. so they teamed up with a national charity to help feed hungry kids. >> thank you. >> you're welcome, sweetie. >> reporter: for these kids, blessings come in the form of apples, corn, even tuna. >> that's a nice smile you have there. >> reporter: thanks to blessings in a backpack, elementary students on a federally funded school meal program can take home a bag of food for the weekend. >> it helps me, because sometimes we don't have enough

money to buy food. >> we can't expect children to turn up monday morning on school and expect them to learn, be in a good state for learning when they haven't had enough food unfortunately over the weekend. >> reporter: kate rose and her golf pro husband justin helped feed six kids in five orlando area schools. the 2013 u.s. open champ raises money through this birdies for blessings campaign. >> how we doing? >> every birdie i make i give $100, an amount to feed a child for the school year. one of my sponsors matched me birdie for birdie. every birdie a i make feeds two children for the entire school year. it gives me incentive out on the golf course to improve my game. >> reporter: and believing blessing in a backpack is feeding the future of america. like this 6-year-old. >> i would like to be a healthy singer, dancer, an artist. i'd like to be everything when i grow up.

>> how precious is tatiana first of all? beautiful dreams. >> i wanted to hear more. >> a great example of doing well and doing good. helping improve his game, high stakes. helping people who need it. >> both can happen. imagine that? >> yes. coming up next on "new day," after the california rampage, a grieving father really slams lawmakers for what he says is failing to act on gun control legislation. what more, if anything, should the government be doing? also, a gripping murder mystery in tropical seclusion. a woman accused of killing her husband in their coast rican hideaway. she says he was suicidal. whom do you believe? the facts, ahead.

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what has changed? have we learned nothing? these things are going to continue until somebody does something. so where the hell is the leadership? where the hell are these people we elect to congress and spend so much money on? these people are getting rich sitting in congress, and what do they do? they don't take care of our kids. my kid died because nobody responded to what occurred in sandy hook. those parents lost kids! it's bad enough i lost my 20 years but i had 20 years with my son! >> that was richard march teen ez, the father of christopher martinez, a young man gunned down in the california rampage. he is one of six people killed.

his father is calling on washington to take action, as you heard there. what are the politicians, the lawmakers willing and able to do at this point? let's discuss the options and, really, the political realities of it, of gun control legislation. cnn analyst tom fuentes and washington correspondent for "the new yorker" joining us. tom, talk about the law enforcement perspective. there was a wellness check. there was a family who had this boy in therapy. he was getting the help that many say he needed. but it clearly didn't work. what do you think from the law enforcement perspective, what more could law enforcement have? what other tool could law enforcement have at their hands to help prevent something like this? does law enforcement want any additional tools? >> good morning, kate. i think the problem is, does the public want law enforcement to have more tools? what you're talking about is a situation where someone make as

complaint to law enforcement, whether it's family, a therapist, a neighbor, and says, this individual is having mental health problems, and you're talking about a situation where the police can go out, talk to the individual, and then put them in an institution against their will. so that's a big step, and that's what has not happened in the last 20 or 30 years since i was a street cop, when we could put somebody in an institution on, with a lot less information than what they had in this case. and that was the concern. that the police shouldn't have that much power on the street to be able to lock somebody up, whether a mental hospital or jail or any other system against their will without really strong information, and it usually requires the person to do the act. to do some violent act to trigger it. >> right. so the bar's clearly now too high. the pendulum swung too far in the other direction. ryan, the question becomes what

is the political sgrfix? representative tim murphy comes up with a bill, puts it out there. seems like a reasonable thing. a lot of people in the si psychiatry world like it and advocates come out against it. why and what is the state of that bill? >> well, look, it's got two problems that some of the mental health groups are opposed to. one is this, any kind of involuntary treatment as tom was talking about, used to be much more common but now is controversial and people who don't like the idea of the government involuntarily committing someone for any reason. that's controversial. the second part, a little less controversial that raised eyebrows, change to the medical privacy laws. once you turn 18 years old, even if you have a long history of mental illness, your medical records are your own business, and the law known as hipaa does not allow your parents to peek into those anymore.

so congressman murphy's law would change that and someone with a severe history of mental illness, their parents would be allowed to be updated and continue to get information about their treatments. which, you know, sounds like a reasonable provision to a lot of people. so those are the two most controversial parts of the law right now, chris, and -- but i will say this, as opposed to almost anything else in washington, that law has dozens of bipartisan backers in the house of representatives right now. compared to most legislation down here, it's got some momentum. >> talk about the political reality of it. tom points to, ryan, what does the public want? is the public ready to give law enforcement more tools? that's the same question to lawmakers. what does the public want lawmakers to do? the last big push that came right after newtown was from the

mansion-toomey proposal to make it, stricter gun checks for all commercial gun sales. that failed in the senate. why? because of politics. because of tough re-election battles for even democrats. some democrats even et voed against it, because of that. that hasn't changed, and that isn't going to change, even after this midterm. right? >> that's not going to change, and i hate to be cynical about this, or pessimistic, but gun legislation in the current political climate is just very, very unlikely. look at the conditions last year after newtown. you had one of the most disturbing gun tragedies in the history of this country, a president re-elected with a majority at the peak of his popularity. democrats controlling the senate, and the public supporting the legislation you just mentioned, kate, manchin-toomey, 60% to 70% and won a majority, 54 votes in the senate and still did not become law. so as the debate moves a little from gun control to mental health, folks down here are a little more optimistic about

something passing. >> that's the key. the gun debate has become tox phied. you're not going to get move money on the it and you don't need to. there noz gun law every requested that would have stopped this kid from buying guns. fuentes, you know it and ryan, you know it. it really becomes, let's focus on the area of fix. let's deal with the mental health environment. anybody who listens to mr. martinez, that could be your kid. we saw it in newtown. we keep seeing it again and again. we made the changes for terrorists, tom. how is this not analogous to the different breath given law enforcement when terrorist allegations are made? >> because of data bases for terrorists. ways to check, ten different ways to check whether a person should get on an airplane or not. whether a person should be picked up and arrested or not. whether that information should be shared with other governments around the world or not. right now you had shooter after shooter in these incidents already in the mental health system. already being treated, and the

police don't know about it. and/or gun shop owners don't know about it, and have no way to check whether somebody in this severe of a mental illness state can buy a gun. there's no -- there's no connection between the information regarding the person's mental health condition and the ability to go purchase a weapon. >> tom fuentes, ryan lizza, thanks for the conversation. we'll continue it, at least here. coming up next on "new day," a murder mystery like you have never heard before. a woman accused of killing her husband in costa rica. she says he committed suicide. there is so much more to this. the mystery goes deeper. if you have moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis, like me,

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the place where her husband died. is it hard for you to come in here? >> it's a little tough. >> reporter: though she still finds it hard to be in this room, anne was willing to take me step by step through the final hours she and john spent here. anne says they followed their nightly routine. john turned out the lights, and they got into bed. anne says she began to doze off. i was lying -- on my belly, face down. my head facing towards him. and i opened my eyes, because i heard him talking. >> reporter: so what was he saying? >> he referred to my suicide attempts, where i had been in bed next to him and he said something to the effect of knowing how it feels to wake up with your spouse dead.

>> reporter: though was dark, anne says she could see that john had a gun pointed at his head. anne says she took action, almost instinctively. >> i reared up on my knees, lunged towards him -- and in the process of putting my hands around his we fell towards each other, and he had the gun loaded and cocked. and i lunged, we fell towards each other and it went off. >> reporter: randy kay i kaye to tell us more. thanks for being here. >> we talked to prosecutors. the main thing that stands out to them, a single shot john b d bender died from. a single shot, right side, back

of the head. most don't go to that area. one thing. the oether thing is his body position. in bed, in a fetal position. looks like he was sleeping according to prosecutors. no way he would have shot himself during that and no gun res due found on john bender's hand. if the gun went off in his hand, why no gun residue? the motive. both mentally ill. maybe a psychotic break. maybe something that happened in that moment that drove her to kill her husband. >> you talk about the mental illness. was there any evidence or understanding that he might have been suffering from depression at that time or particularly suicidal? >> we talked to a lot of people who knew them. many said on several occasions throughout the years there were signs he was very depressed and sort of getting worse. we also talked to neighbors who know them very well, and who said that they were there about six months before john died, and that he was in a very, very dark place and she was, too. she was ill. weak, and the two of them were not in a healthy place. >> all of these things ring

true, interesting these two people would find themselves together. that house, in costa rica, it's unbelievable. what an unusual place. you got a chance to walk around. what did it feel like? >> we flew over it first. took a helicopter there, because it's in such a remote place. on 5,000 acres. 80,000 square feet. they wanted to make it a lab one day when they were both gone, ann said, they would like to make it a university that might take it over, something like that it would become a lab with a successful refuge for animals. >> randi kaye. thank you for joining us. the cnn special report "love and death in paradise" premieres toned. you have to see it. 9:00 p.m. eastern only on cnn. thanks so much, randi. back to you. >> wow. what a story. coming up on "new day," listen to this. hundreds of hundred dollar bills are popping up all over san francisco. maybe not hundreds, but a lot of them. before you run out there, though, wait until you hear why. certainly qualifies as the good stuff coming up. [ laughter ]

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hidden cash. handle popped up given cryptic clues where people could go to find envelopes loaded with cash around the san francisco area. >> they were checking twitter and said that right outside in the plaza somebody was hiding hundred dollar bills and one underneath the chair out here and i guess we were a little too late to grab it today. >> uh-huh! the anonymous donor has one request. that recipients pay it forward. it turns out, guess what? people are doing just that. >> i donated it to aids life cycles, one of my favorite charity irs. thought it was an easy way to turn something fun into something good. >> that's not all. twitter is loaded with examples of people using the money for others. our affiliate ktvu caught up to the mystery man, turns out a wealthy real estate developer who wishes to remain anonymous saying this isn't a replacement for charity. he gives money to that as well, but more for fun and encouraging people to do the right thing. he says he's going to expand

hidden cash to other cities, and in hopes people will keep paying it forward. money, they often say, is opportunity. so most of all, thank you for putting it to good use. you are "the good stuff" whoever you are mr. rich real estate dude. >> rich real estate dude! >> you think he hides out? >> i'd hide out, in disguise. >> i'm on the hunt. going out to san francisco. expand to new york. a quick programming note, everybody, thursday cnn is premiering a new series called "the sixties." it's the decade that changed the world. the space race. the cold war. free love! civil rights. much more. the 1960s reshaped americans lives in ways that still affect us today. watch or set your dvr for "the sixties" premiere, thursday night, 9:00 p.m. eastern on cnn. let's get you to the "newsroom" and ms. carol costello. you weren't around for the '60s.

born in '82, were you? >> how did you know? all i can say is, that was a good song. have a great day. "newsroom" starts now. good morning. i'm carol costello. thank you so much for joining me this morning. malaysia's government peels back the curtain on its search to missing flight 370. overnight officials released satellite data from the airliner's final hours. it's the very information that wildly diverted the search to one of the most remote areas on earth. where not a single piece of wreckage has yet been found. today's release comes after two months of angry demands and accusations from families of those aboard. and no sooner did this data go public before even more criticism that key information was being withheld. we'll talk to our own aviation experts in a minute.