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all right, everybody, thank you for joining us, have a great weekend and monday, anderson cooper starts right now. good evening, the head of the v.a. steps down, what will it take to get the veterans the medical attention they deserve? we'll ask the whistle-blower and congress's top lawmaker on veterans affairs. also, breaking news on the donald sterling affair after a day after the sell of the clippers. >> plus, her account of being sold into sexual slavery, made her a cnn hero, tonight, how that remarkable story has unrav unravelled. we begin tonight with keeping them honest in a clear account of the v.a. scandal. a welcome one, thousands have been waiting for months for medical care while v.a.
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hospitals conceal the problem. today, amid bipartisan calls to step down secretary shinseki went to the white house, spoke to president obama and then did just that. >> he does not want to be a distraction because his priority is to fix the problem and make sure the vets are getting the care they need. that was rick's judgment on behalf of his fellow veterans. and i agree. we don't have time for distractions. we need to fix the problem. >> well, according to the inspector general's recent report that problem may be nationwide. something this program, especially drew griffin's investigative team have been reporting on right from the beginning. take a look. >> reporter: it was last summer when cnn first learned of waiting lists, delayed care and deaths at the v.a. at first, just two hospitals and this story airing november 19th of last fall. to understand the problems with the v.a., a good place to start is the williams-jennings center
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in south carolina, where veterans waiting for simple gastrointestinal procedures like colonoscopies have been dying. and sources telling cnn that vets dead or dying of cancer because they had to wait for treatment. could be more than 20. in january, two months later, cnn's investigation expanded. this internal v.a. document obtained exclusively by cnn says that at least 19 veterans have died because of simple delays in medical screenings like colonoscopies. >> i just try to live every day as my last day. >> barry coach, a war vet, waited a year to get a col colonoscopy.
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they found a baseball size tumor that had spread later. and then, sam foote came forward, appearing for the first time on cnn he told us for the first time, vets are not only dying they are dying on a secret waiting list. >> we have heard of as many as 40 vets in the phoenix area could have died waiting for care. >> that is collect. >> there were startle iing deta of how the secret list was being used to hide veterans waiting for care and hide just how long they had been waiting. after cnn's report on the phoenix v.a. aired, the drum beat for change at the v.a. began. the american legion, one of the nation's most prominent veteran's organization called for the v.a. secretary to resign. >> we are again requesting an interview with general shinseki. >> all of our reporting and six months of asking, general shinseki refused to talk with cnn and instead earlier this
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month told the senate veteran's affairs committee the problems were not widespread. >> are people quote unquote cooking the books? is that in fact a problem within the health care system? >> i'm not aware, other than a number of isolated cases where there is evidence of that. but the fact that there is evidence in a couple of cases behooves us to go and take a thorough look. >> and the president stood by him. >> he has been a great public servant and great warrior on behalf of the united states of america. we're going to work with him to solve the problem. >> then more whistle-blowers. clerks who told us in texas, in colorado, they, too, had been directed to manipulate wait times and delay care. and more grieving people like priscilla valdez who told us people like her dad, who fought in vietnam, suffered from shortness of breath for months
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was unable to get an appointment at the v.a. until it was too late. >> i told him, dad, i love you. i love you very much. you're going to come out of this. they're going to let your lungs rest for a little bit. you will be okay. his mind was there. his mind was there and he said don't worry i'll be back. i'm stronger than what the doctors are saying might be wrong with me. i'll be back. those are the last words he ever said. >> and drew joins me right now. drew, the families you reported on sadly they know now that everything they feared was true is true. >> yes, from the inspector general's interim report from the report of general shinseki today, anderson, it was all true. v.a. hospitals throughout the country, the administrators were cooking the books and hiding the terrible truth on just how long the veterans were waiting for care. and it may have been done delibera deliberately to meet performance standards so that v.a. employees could get bonuses while veterans
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died. >> and i mean it took six months of your reporting, our reporting to finally get the administration's attention. and now the secretary of veterans affairs. >> and now they couldn't trust that shinseki, who was not able to recognize the problem right under his own nose. he is just not the person to lead the v.a. out of the debacle that it is in. general shinseki trusted the people that were lying to him. and ignored the many, many voices that were trying to tell him the truth. >> i want to mention sam foote, who you mentioned, and mr. chairman, let me start with you. earlier today you said while the person at the top may be changing the fact that there are serious systemic problems within the agency that has not changed. will shinseki's resignation, or the next person be able to address the problems in the v.a.? >> well, i think it is an appropriate step, whether it is the appropriate next step is up for anybody's debate.
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there was clearly no leadership from the secretary to the point that people felt comfortable or thought that they had to report to him the bad news. they would only give him the good news. and i had told him this for years. and he trusted his people. and unfortunately, the trust that he put in them took him down. >> and he was there -- in six years he had time on this. today, mr. chairman, you said there would be no honeymoon period after shinseki's resignation. do you believe the interim secretary, sloane gibson, is the person to be in that spot? >> absolutely, i told him i wanted him to come to the central office. i wanted to visit with him. i told him what the committee was most concerned about and then he explained to me where he wanted to go. you could tell there was an anger in his voice as to how the secretary had been misled and lied to by his employees. and if they would lie to the
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secretary. if they would lie to congress you can only imagine what they would say to a veteran. >> well, mr. chairman, if the president was to nominate mr. gibson for the v.a. secretary position, would you support that nomination? >> i would, i would think that sloane has the skills necessary. he has the demeanor necessary, i don't know if he will be the permanent replacement. i think this may have been a thought at one time when the secretary stepped down, but again, i'll work with the acting secretary now. and i have gotten assurances from him that his agency will work with our committee which has been sorely lacking over the years. >> dr. foote, you have experience on the ground, you saw it firsthand, you blew the whistle on this. what needs to change?
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the core problems that are causing all of these cooking of the books? >> well, the first thing is we need a change in the supply and demand. right now we have more demand than we have supplies. so that needs to be immediately addressed -- >> when you talk about supply -- sorry, when you talk about supply, what do you mean? >> well, enough physicians and nurses and personnel and space, enough money to meet the demand. and if we can't meet the demand within the veteran's organization, within the v.a., then we may have to contract it out through something like that a vet care card. >> doctor, there has been complains about sort of bloated centralized bureaucracy for the v.a. do you think that is the problem? >> well, i think it is the attitude of the administrators. and they're forgetting we're here to take care of the veterans, not to further our careers and line our pockets. and this focus on numbers
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patients really needs to change. whoever takes on this position needs to look into the matter where it is run like a sorority. it is not like the military where you have to prove you're better than the next guy and rise up. and i think that was the world that shinseki knew, of duty, honor and country, and not me, me, me, and what can i do to further my career. >> mr. chairman, it is pretty scary to hear it was run like a sorority or fraternity. >> and he was there, he saw it happening. and thank goodness he felt comfortable enough to reach out and say there was a serious problem and somebody has to look into what is going on. if you can go back to augusta and columbia in south carolina, at this point there has been nobody accountable for those deaths that they have already
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admitted have taken place. >> drew you have been covering these right now. >> these guys were trying to blow the whistle on this long before i came along, this show came along and we started to do our reports. the congressman with his bipartisan committee has been at this for a long time. the v.a. wouldn't listen to him. dr. foote he went internally to report this to the v.a. back in october. they would not listen to him. and when dr. foote came on this program there was a whisper campaign to try to destroy his credibility instead of looking at what he was saying and critiquing the information coming forward. now it has just been a political crisis. it has been a shame that over at the v.a. they have been so close-minded that they can't understand there are people critical of them who are trying to fix the v.a. not just take away their bonuses. >> yeah, and they're ducking and hiding still.
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chairman miller, good to have you on, as well. dr. foote, and drew griffin. set your dvrs, you can watch "ac360." and coming up next, what looks like a fight within the sterling family, over the selling of the clippers. we'll try to sort it out. also the billionaire trying to buy the team makes mark cuban look sort of mellow. up next. ♪ abe! get in! punch it! let quicken loans help you save your money. with a mortgage that's engineered to amaze! thanks, g.
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lot to talk about in addition to his reportedly estranged wife, shelly, saying that she sold the clippers to billionaire steve ballmer. also in addition to her saying that donald sterling was incapacitated, giving her full trust. but sterling's lawyer says he is not incapacitated. now, word comes that he is suing the nba. more coming up, brian todd, what is the latest, talking shelly sterling and the nba. >> this is really symbolic that there is a real divide between the two sterlings and how they deal with the nba. the league has revealed it dissolved their dispute with shelly. they are going to cancel the june 3rd meeting and vote that the owners were going to have, you know to vote whether or not
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to kick donald sterling out of the league. now in the exchange, according to the nba, mrs. sterling and the sterling family trust have agreed not to sue the nba. and according to the league they have agreed to indemnify them. donald sterling has now sued the nba, according to his attorney, max bleacher. >> and you received a copy of the lawsuit. what do we know about it? >> well, they're seeing them for breach of contract, for violation of its constitutional rights with the nba. it is for a billion in damages, anderson, calls for donald sterling's lifetime ban and for the $2.5 million fine that he was levied to be lifted. and here is the quote, quote, defendants rely almost entirely on an inadmissible transcript of the illegally recorded conversation. that is of course the conversation that started all of
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this between donald sterling and his girlfriend, v. stiviano. donald sterling claiming that that was illegal and basically just nullifies everything. so we'll see what happens in court. >> you also have alleged information about his mental state, what do you know about that? >> absolutely, anderson, two sources with detailed knowledge tell us that donald sterling was found mentally incapacitated by two independent physicians who were neurologists, according to our sources. and that these tests were conducted sometime within the past month and that there is a clause within the sterling family trust according to our sources that says if one or more sterling was found mentally unfit then the other sterling will have the capacity to make deals. that is why shelly sterling was completely legal in her dealings with the attorney. now, max bleacher is fighting
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back hard on that characterization of mental incapacity, telling me that that is a vast overstatement. his quote was of a modest mental impairment. what he equated to as a kind of slowing down. and he said that donald sterling is far from being incapacitated. the attorney for donald sterling firing back hard on that characterization, anderson. >> all right, brian todd, appreciate the update. let's dig deeper now with in-house attorney drew rosenhouse. and first, the allegation that he is mentally incapacitated. his lawyer saying that is a vast overstatement. that he is suing, what is going on. >> this is all kabuki theater. what ultimately is going to happen, she has negotiated a sale. she already had a written agreement. and him authorizing the fact that they could sell it. his lawyer is suing right now only because he wants to not pay
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the $2.5 million. and he wants them to rescind the ban. that is exactly why the nba is already calling off the june 3rd meeting. all of this is orchestrated, i hate to tell you. this is not unfolding like some kind of set of dominos -- >> you think this is negotiated between shelly sterling and donald sterling. >> it is orchestrated by not only shelly sterling, donald sterling, but by shelly sterling, donald sterling and the nba and the management. so all of this is a fait accompli. that is why they called off the meeting. you saw the rapid fire sell of the team. they are suing right now because they want to orchestrate to sell the team they want to rescind
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the 2.5 milli$2.5 million therar life. >> this is really stunning, it added immense value. >> i can't help but smile, anderson. it is a stunning amount. shocking, this time last week when i was on your program i talked about a billion dollars would be a good deal for the clippers. this is a stunning amount. $2 billion is almost incredible. what a steal -- >> what impact does that have on other teams? >> well it is tremendous for all sports franchises. particularly the nba who previously had a record amount of a sale of $550 million, the milwaukee bucks, now increases the value to all the other franchises not just in the nba, anderson, but across professional sports. >> and remember, the milwaukee bucks sale was within the last four weeks. this is stunning. >> how about the dallas cowboys? or the new york yankees? or the boston red sox?
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how about the marquise franchises. >> how about the l.a. laker whose share the same -- >> hey, the lakers were the number one show in town. still are the marquis franchise. and for the clippers this says a lot about steve ballmer, he is a ba baller, for sure. the guy has big money. he must have won a bidding war. >> a lot of this -- >> go ahead. >> a lot of this has to do with the tv rights. and the broadcast rights. because what this is -- is content. and this is the ability of people to put out content and to sign these very lucrative deals. so -- >> you say it is just a game. anderson, this changes the game. i mean, when you're paying $2 billion for a franchise? now everybody is going to have to be a steve ballmer to own a new professional sports franchise. this is not even the nfl. you know, this is the nba. so i mean, this is a stunning
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number and i think a lot of it has to do with the fact that steve ballmer is paying. he is a celebrity. he is a superstar now. he got rid of a pariah. and donald sterling is a hero. throughout the nation this is a big, big story. larger than sports and he has made the largest sports acquisition of all time. and he could have gotten this team, i believe, for hundreds of millions less. >> hundreds of millions less. most people thought it would have gone for a billion at the most, or o-- >> that is a great deal, sterling bought it for $12 million, guys. >> mark, let me just ask you about the incapacitation thing. what is the reason -- i get why shelly sterling would have him declared that because that allows her to take over control and make a deal. why, though, would the lawyer -- his lawyer contest it and how hard is it to get two doctors to
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say somebody is incapacitated. i'm not a doctor, but when i sat down with him he was able to complete sentences, form thoughts, he certainly didn't have a filter for his thoughts. but he wasn't drooling. >> when the police went to elliot rodgers to talk to him, the guy who was clearly incapacitated he could keep it together for a short amount of time. that in itself, you can get a doctor to say anything if you pay them enough. i think it has more to do with the rescinding and the 2.5 -- >> they have to be so happy with this deal. they're going to work with donald sterling to get him out and see this deal go through because it is so good for business on both accounts. >> a lot of agents are very excited. drew rosenhouse, mark geragos.
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thank you guys. if this deal goes through, just who is it that the clipper is getting as a new boss? plus, everything you want to know about steve ballmer next. also next, a story that is heartbreaking, a woman sold into a brothel, she has done tremendous work but was it all a lie? details ahead. try alka seltzer reliefchews. they work just as fast and are proven to taste better than tums smoothies assorted fruit. mmm. amazing. yeah, i get that a lot. alka seltzer heartburn reliefchews. enjoy the relief. sweets become salaries. an oven heats up a community la cocina, a small kitchen that kick-starts the careers of 41 entrepreneurs. they bring the talent. we help fund the tools. it's a small way we help that's been huge for the community. little by little we can do a lot. because... small is huge.
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the man who would be king of the clipper clippers. >> reporter: he always seemed ready for courtside. former microsoft ceo steve ballmer was famous for energizing his employees. >> i got four words for you! i love this company! yeah! >> reporter: ballmer started working at microsoft in its early days. in 1980 he became the company's 24th employee. and his over-sized personality became known fast through videos like this, in 1985. >> watch as windows integrates lotus 1, 2, 3, with miami vice. >> and with the spoof of this club hit. in 1998, ballmer rose to
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president and ceo in 2000, taking the company through hits like x box and connect and flops like windows vista. >> our job is to make sure that not only is pc not dead, but we're constantly re-imagining it. >> reporter: he stepped down as the ceo of microsoft just three months ago but is a bigger shareholder than bill gates. he sits at number 35 on the magazine's annual billionaire's list. ballmer grew up near detroit where his father was a manager at ford motor company. he went to harvard and briefly attended stanford school of business. and he is no stranger to the world of sports. his name was tied to a possible deal with the sacramento kings but that deal fell through. now he is poised to make the biggest deal ever, going from high techer to sports mogul.
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>> and thank you for joining us, so what is your reaction first of all to the news that the nba and mr. sterling have agreed in principle for the sale? >> well, just like everybody else we were stunned by that number. $2 billion is a heck of a lot of money. but it is a good day, a great day for the nba family and we hope that this thing goes through. >> is it good for the players? >> it is outstanding for the players. i mean, you got a franchise in the los angeles clippers that is definitely a big market franchise. but you know the lakers are the marquis team in l.a. and there are other marquis franchises like new york and chicago so for a franchise to sell for $2 billion that is great for us as players and it means this league is in a great, great spot. >> is there any kind of opinion you heard about as far as steve ballmer, an owner? >> well, he is a guy that
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reaches out and grabs companies that he sees valuable. and obviously he saw value in this franchise. he has a world of excitement. you see that. and he is a businessman. he is somebody who is going to bring value to the league, the players, the brand. i just believe it is great for basketball and the nba. >> this idea of donald sterling being incapacitated, which has now been put out there. a, do you buy that? and do you think that -- because there are some people who see that as an attempt to kind of make people sympathetic toward him and change the way they think about his comments. have you heard that from the players? >> yeah, players wonder if that is true. you get a couple of doctors to write reports you can't contradict it. i know there were others that came out and said that is not true. i'm not sure, i'm not a judge of sickness and those types of
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things. us players, we don't really know what to think about that. >> right, and there is this issue of donald sterling suing the nba in a billion dollars for damages. are you concerned he is just kind of refusing to go away and it will be a distraction for the league? >> yeah, it seems meritless. this is not the constitution of america. this is not the court of law. the nba is a private entity and donald sterling's comments affected the brand negatively. so they have a right through its constitutions to make those types of decisions. so i'm not a lawyer. we don't know the technicalities of it. but it just seems meritless. >> the $2 billion, does it change the value of other teams? i mean suddenly it seems like anything is possible after that. >> it is a game-changer, forbes does their valuations of the teams and really when you look at the value of a franchise it is what somebody is willing to pay for it. and this seems like it was a --
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seems like it was a bit of a bidding war. it bodes well for the players and the game. look at the end of the day, live content wins and our sport has that. >> it certainly does, roger mason, jr. coming up, she is possibly the strongest anti-sex trafficking leader of the world. but has she duped them with her story. and later, the santa barbara mystery and maybe some warning signs that were just ignored. ben! well, that was close! you ain't lying! let quicken loans help you save your money. with a mortgage that's engineered to amaze!
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it was a prominent activist working against the sex trafficking of young girls, she has spoken at the white house, drawn attention from the media and rose millions of dollars. she has been featured in countless news stories and has been featured in part because of her own story. she has resigned amid allegations she faked not only her story but other victims' stories, as well. randi kaye has more.
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>> reporter: her story is heartbreaking, raped, beaten, sold into slavery. it is a story this cambodian woman shared over and over, during her rise to become a international activist. in her book, "the road of lost innocence," it brought her and her campaign against sex trafficking plenty of attention. celebritiy ies rallying to her cause. actress susan sarandon joined her on the tyra banks show. angelina jolie wrote this glowing article about her when she was named to be on the list of the 100 most influential people. what if we told you her story was not true? that there are so many cracks in
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it she resigned from her u.s.-based charity. newsweek magazine uncovered new information that contradicts the heartbreaking story. they investigated her for news we week. even visited the village where she said the man who kidnapped her had taken her. >> they say they saw her arrive in the village with a family, she grew up in the village living a relatively normal life. i'm not previous to her time in that village. she had moved just over the river from another village on the other side of the river where she lived with the same people. >> reporter: somali mom had long shared the story of her own daughter, at 14, being kidnapped and sold into slavery. that doesn't seem to be true either. >> her former husband says it was not true. that in fact she had run away with a boyfriend. >> reporter: many in the media were fooled. "the new york times" columnist
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nick cristoff visited cambodia with her, calling her one of his heroes. she was named one of cnn's hero, and "ac360" featured her in a red light districtdistrict.. >> reporter: she met with michelle obama a year earlier. it appears somali mom was not the only one stretching the truth either. news week discovered she coached teenage girls to describe how they had been sold into slavery too. this woman confessed this year, saying she rehearsed for the cameras under somali mom's instruction. one source said while we are
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extremely saddened by the news we remain grateful. adding she has raised critical awareness of the nearly 21 million individuals who are currently enslaved today. >> that is quite a story. >> anderson, golfer phil mickelson reportedly is being investigated in a possible insider trading case. "the wall street journal" reports that federal investigators are looking into whether phil mickelson and another investor were involved. a lawyer for phil mickelson denies that he is the target of any investigation. a new arrest today in the boston marathon bombings. a 23-year-old massachusetts man is charged with destroying evidence and making false statements to investigators. prosecutors say he did not participate in the bombings but tried to hide his friendship with the tsarnaev brothers. white house press secretary jay carney stepping down from his post.
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shooting victim speaks out for the first time. bianca decoke was walking with friends as the killer smirked at her, and opened fire. >> honestly i thought is this rubber bullets, then i realize, i'm bleeding, in pain. >> bianca was hit five times, one of 13 injured that night. six others were killed. including a sorority sister. we now know that when the sheriff's deputies visited the killer's house they never actually watched the disturbing videos he posted on line. the santa barbara department said they watched them, but didn't find cause to go in his apartment and search for weapons. hindsight is 20/20, but hearing the families and their heartbreak is just another sad part of the story. >> reporter: before the horrific
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sequence of events at isla vista, the officers a worker at the hot line speaks to the gunman and the would-be gunman's mother. at some point, deputies are told about the disturbing videos he posted on line, four deputies, a police officer and dispatch arrive at the welfare check at the 22-year-old's apartment. >> the deputies contacted him directly at his residence. and they determined that he did not meet the criteria for an involuntary mental health hold. he was as i said, courteous, polite, appeared timid and shy. >> the officers said he spoke about his videos, that he was not fitting in socially in the town, and that they were just
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venting. they did not enter the apartment. they did not do a weapons check and we're now learning that they did not view the disturbing videos. ten minutes after they first arrived, deputies left. >> well, law enforcement, that is primarily a reactive component. not always, but we like to see them become more proactive. >> the forensic psychologist assesses threats at work places and universities. he says in an ideal world, mental health workers would join officers in cases like this and would have immediate access to the web. >> they would post information about a possible attack or behavior prior to the occurring. and if this information, if you're aware of this information i think it would be ideal to look at it. >> in this case, it was a missed chance. but there were others. the gunman's former roommate tells abc news he saw warning signs, had a bad feeling.
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but didn't act. >> how do you stop something like that? you say well, you look at the signs of the people and what they're like before they do this. >> and kyung lah joins us from santa barbara, thank you for joining us. the responding officers did go by the book in this welfare check, correct? >> you are absolutely right about this, anderson, they didn't break rules or protocol. they did what they're supposed to do. but after these types of shootings happen there is a lot of -- a lot of reflection, where they say there needs to be more comprehensive approach not just by the police but family and friends and the community. >> or could mental health officers be with them as they try to assess somebody's mental health. all right, coming up. a great american journey, a woman who has been on that journey for 115 years.
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distinct title in the united states. her story is a true journey. our gary tuchman has more. >> reporter: a baby born in the 21st century, his great-great grandmother born in the 19th century. she is one of the last five known people in the world born in the 1800s. she lives with her daughter, thelma, how old are you if you don't mind me asking. >> well, in november i'll be 77 years old. >> and you are her little girl? >> i am her little girl. >> her mother was born may 23rd, 1899. this is her 115th birthday. what is the secret to living to 115? >> the lord. the father above. he got everything. i got nothing. >> i think you have a lot more, too. >> he has got it all.
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he got mine and yours. and everybody else's. >> so the answer is to have a lot of faith? >> yeah. >> taken in 1950. geraline is the matriarch of five living generations, her husband passed away in 1988. she was born in georgia, later moved to the suburbs of detroit, michigan, where she lived for almost 88 years. she says she always lived life with this outlook. >> do unto others as you desire them to do unto you. >> the golden rule. >> now through the years ♪ ♪ the lord has been good to me. >> church has always been part of geraline's life. at the road to the entrance, it is named after her. her pastor said she received many honors. >> god only blessed one pastor,
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the pastor, the oldest person in the united states and that is me. and i'm grateful for that. >> while she credits her faith for her longevity, she also says the outdoors keep her young. do you like fishing? >> i may go this year. i don't know. >> reporter: what do you catch, what kind of fish do you like? >> trout and cat fish. >> trout and cat fish? she has also won athletic awards. >> i bowled until i was 104 years old. >> you bowled until you were 104 years old? >> and i was 104, i said this is my last bowling, and i bowled a 200. >> you bowled 200 when you were 104? well if i could bowl 200 i would quit and retire, too. >> they wanted me to keep
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bowling, and i said no. >> geraline received recognition for her long life and dedication. including president obama. but this is a big one, 115 years old, the oldest living american and the second oldest person in the world. >> ♪ ♪ >> and before we say good-bye to this woman who has been alive for almost half of the existence of the united states, we give her a birthday present. this is a cnn anderson cooper "ac360" hat. >> oh, beautiful. >> you look beautiful! it is perfect. and my guess is you are the oldest person to ever wear that hat. and we're greatly honored. not too many 115-year-olds wear our baseball caps. you like it? i'm glad. thank you, thanks for talking with us, okay. gary tuchman, cnn, michigan. what a great laugh.
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we heard that geraline is watching tonight with family and friends and all of us here at "ac360." hope you had a very, very happy birthday, geraline, that does it for us "the sixties" starts right now. >> stand by, here we go. take one! >> the average time spent watching television is five to six hours per day. >> there is a reason for calling it the boob tube and idiot box. >> change the channel. >> we want to rap about our singing. >> here is the news. >> give the american viewer the kind of television that people desire and deserve. >> okay, let's try to do it again and see what happens this time. >> television has grown faster than a teenager. now it is time
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