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really do pertain to us as a species. >> fabien says he's living in the most fantastic place in the world, with one issue, and that is the lack of red wine and the fact he can't surface because he's actually saturated. so that's that. he's down for the count. thanks, everyone, for watching. wolf starts now. right now, bowe bergdahl is recovering in germany. back in the united states, new questions are being raised about how bergdahl went missing. one member of his own platoon calls bergdahl a deserter, not a hero. right now, president obama takes his strongest action yet on climate change. republicans say it will kill jobs, lots of them. democratic candidates may be getting ready to pay the price come november. right now, more drama for the woman whose taped conversation
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led to donald sterling's downfall. over the weekend, v. stiviano allegedly assaulted in new york city. we'll have the details. hello, i'm whoolf blitzer reporting from washington. we start with the release of u.s. army sergeant bowe bergdahl after five years in the hands of the taliban. he was trade for five guantanamo detainees. this is video of those five arriving in qatar today. we'll have more on who they are in a few moments. first, let's turn to our senior international correspondent nic robertson joining us from landstuhl in germany where bergdahl is recovering. the administration says his health was a major concern. do we have an idea what his condition is right now? >> sure, we've been given a few details in the last hour or so. he'ses in stable condition. he's being treated for medical conditions that require hospitalization. we're being told that includes special attention to nutrition and his diet. because he's been held captive
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for five years. a clear implication is that he is suffering because of the food that he's been given over the past five years. unclear how unwell he is, but the treatment here, physical, psychological, to try to get him ready for normal life again. also, a military debriefing, wolf. >> how long do they expect him to be in germany before he's flown back to the united states? >> sure, what the doctors here are saying is look, we're sensitive to the fact of everything he's been through in afghanistan and the reality with that is they are only now beginning to find out about that, how much has he been stressed, how many times was he given mock executions, how damaging has that been. the doctors say he's sensitive to all of that. another pace of his reintegration, which is what this process is called should go at a pace he is comfortable at. so they're saying there really isn't a definite period for how
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long all this takes. it really seems to be a matter of how far sergeant bergdahl really responds to this treatment he's been given for his diet, for his psychological welfare and of course if there's information that he has, operationally -- information that's useful operationally, time sensitive intelligence-type information he might have gleaned while he was captured. because of course today the taliban are in afghanistan, today killing another service member inside that country, wolf. >> has he spoken with his parents yet? >> wolf, we're being told so far he has not. he's been given the opportunity or he may get that other the time while he's here to do that. but the best indication we have so far, measure not being given blow by blow details of what's going on. we're getting very occasional update. so of course something may happen that we're not fully
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aware yet. yes, there is the capability for phone calls, for teleconferencing, all those sorts of things. but that's not something that we're privy to. the best information we have, wolf, so far, not. >> nic robertson on the scene for us at landstuhl in germany. defense secretary chuck hagel was adamant when asked about the bergdahl swap. he said, i'm quoting him, we did not negotiate with terrorists. that explanation is being challenged by some republicans here in washington who said the president bypassed congress and set a very dangerous precedent. >> is the methodology in what we used is very troublesome. remember, al qaeda in -- >> by methodology, you mean? >> negotiating with terrorists. held by a tir rift group in another country, pakistan. we know that to be true. across northern africa, the number one way that al qaeda raises money is by ransom, kidnapping and ransom. we have now set a price.
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so we have a changing foot print in afghanistan which will put our soldiers at risk for this notion if i can get one, i can get five taliban released. >> obama administration officials insist they did not wrong. it simply came down to acting on an opportunity to get an american p.o.w. back home. >> he was held in an armed conflict by the taliban. we were engaged in an armed conflict with the taliban. and we have a history in this country of making sure that our prisoners of war are returned to us. it's entirely appropriate, given the determination made by the secretary of defense, in consultation with the full national security team, that the threat potentially posed by the returned detainees was officially mitigated to allow us to move forward and get bowe bergdahl back home where he belongs. >> that's what we're hearing from political folks. what about bergdahl's fellow soldiers? what are they saying? jake tapper, host of "the lead,"
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and also the author of "untold val valor," is shehere desserter, or hero? what do they say? >> specifically in blackfoot company, in the second platoon, which is where bergdahl served. there are two big issues they have. first, they're the circumstances of his disappearance. he was supposed to be on guard at an observation post the night of june 30th, 2009. the circumstances of his leaving seem to be suggesting he left on his own volition. that's what people who served with him think. there was an anecdotal account from a young afghan child saying he had seen an american soldier walking away from the observation post that day. second, there was so much time and energy and money devoted to
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finding bergdahl. and several troops were killed in the course of that recovery and that rescue effort. so let me quote a couple of these soldiers i spoke to. i spoke to a sergeant would said bowe bergdahl deserted during a time of war and his fellow americans lost their lives searching for him. and then bergdahl's former squad lead, not at that exact time, but earlier in the rotation, told me, i'm pleased to see him returned safely from an experience i hope he receives adequate reintegration counseling. i hope an investigation takes place as soon as health care professionals deem him fit to endure one. that is very reflective, although fairly restrained, frofrom all the soldiers i've spoken with. they're angry, they don't know why he left, and they're upset about all the men who died while try to find him. >> there's an article in
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"rolling stone" magazine by michael half things who has since passed away, suggesting that bergdahl had become disenchanted with the war effort. in this e-mail, hastings writes, bowe rights to his parents, the future is too good to waste on lies and to care for the damn nation others as well as spend it helping fools with the ideas that are wrong. i'm ashamed to even be american. the horror of the self-righteous arrogance that they thrive in, it is all revolting. and then he went on to say, the horror that is america is disgusting. now, we have not authenticated that. >> hastings seemed to have gotten those e-mails from bergdahl's parents. and they are rather shocking. they are -- they do express disillusionment with the war. which is a fine emotion to have. but they reflect more than that. a disgust with what the u.s. was doing there. and it certainly adds to the
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narrative of bergdahl leaving on his own volition. he had told soldiers who i've spoken to some day if the deployment wasn't good he was going to leave and try to walk to china or try to get away. >> there's some ambiguity, some murkiness. was he at a latrine in the middle of the night and he was snatched or did he actually leave on his own volition? >> i don't know anybody who served with him who thinks he didn't leave on his own volition. i spoke with people who saw the intelligence reports at the time who say he left on his own volition. i've been hearing about this case for years. and generally a lot of people have not talked much about it publicly because he was still in the custody of -- whether it's the hakkani network or the talabani or whatever but now that he's back in american hands people are speaking candidly about it and he is thought to have left the observation post on his own. >> there's deep anger also
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because of the allegation that american soldiers died trying to find him and that has fueled further anger. hold on for a moment, jay carney, the white house press secretary, answering reporter's questions on bergdahl right now. >> -- a prisoner of war in afghanistan, and as part of those efforts, there have been ongoing discussions about how to bring that about. and that included conversations with members of congress about -- at least the possibility of transferring these five detainees. as part of getting sergeant bergdahl back to the united states and back with his family. as we've been saying, since we successfully recovered sergeant bergdahl this weekend, this was the right thing to do, because we in the united states do not leave our men and women in uniform behind during an armed conflict. and five years is a very long time to be a prisoner. we are enormously gratified that bowe bergdahl is now safely in
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u.s. hands and is getting the health care that he needs and has begun the process of reintegrating that will take some time, no doubt, given the duration of his captivity. but it is a welcome development, to be sure, when our single prisoner in the afghanistan conflict has been successfully recovered. >> what was the -- was there any bushback? was there acknowledgement on the part of these members of congress when you guys mentioned these particular five detainees? was there -- did members of congress agree with this kind of swap? did they say no, bad idea? can you tell me anything of what that kind of discussion was about? >> -- readout of conversations that date back some time.
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i think what it reflects, however, is this should not have come as a surprise to members of congress that this was possible, because we have been working to secure sergeant bergdahl's release for a long time. and prisoner exchanges in armed conflicts are hardly a new development. including in our history, in the united states. whether it's the japanese or the north koreans or others, we have engaged in prisoner exchanges in the past. we don't, the united states does not leave our men and women in uniform behind. chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, general martin dempsey, said, in a statement, quote, it is our earthos that we never lee a fallen comrade. today, we have back in our ranks, the soldier, welcome home, sergeant bowe bergdahl.
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and that's the senior most military member of our military speaking. >> as you know, there have been detainees who have returned to the battlefield. what are the guarantees, other than just a one-year ban on travel on these five detainees that they won't go back and target u.s. interests, u.s. personnel, u.s. military? >> again, i'll restipulate that prisoner exchanges are not uncommon in armed conflicts. secondly, i'll say that without getting into specific assurances, i can tell you they included a travel ban, information sharing on the deet trainees between our government, between the united states and qatar. i can also tell you the assurances were sufficient to allow the security team to determine the threat posed by the detainees to the united
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states would be sufficiently mitigated and that the transfer was in the u.s. national security interest. so this was done after the appropriate consideration and analysis and it was the judgment of the secretary of defense in coordination with the entire national security team that there was sufficient mitigation in place and assurances in place to allow the exchange. >> one quick question. on the carbon rule today. as proposed by the epa, gives states -- >> all right, we're going to continue to monitor this briefing over at the white house and get back to it when we get more information. there you heard the white house press secretary, the outgoing white house press secretary, jay carney, defending this decision, which is increasingly becoming more controversial as we learn more details and we've learned more from jake tapper. quick thought on what we just heard from jay carney. he's defending this decision.
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the u.s. doesn't negotiate with terrorists. congress should not have been surprised. all of the above. >> it is hardly unprecedented for the united states to swap. we remember the iran arms for hostages deal. it does happen. you know, i'm not going to give a policy position on prisoner exchanges. it does happen. when you make peace, you make peace with your enemies. that said, these -- i want to know more, i would like to know more, about exactly the national security constraints are on these five mid to high level taliban officials who were at gitmo who are now in qatar. there's a travel ban in place. okay. are they in some sort of club fed-type prison for a year or after a year are they going to be freed? what exactly is the situation? we're hearing a lot of reassurances without a lot of details from the pentagon or the white house when it comes to the actual swap. but jay's right, in the sense that it is not unprecedented.
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>> i know you're going to have a lot more coming up, 4:00 p.m. eastern, on "the lead." i'll have more coming up on "the situation room." jake, thanks very much. up next, power plants, pollution and politics. president obama makes a bold move on the environment. what about the political fallout? gloria borger standing by live. we will discuss. later, a cnn correspondent is harassed by police in the middle of a live report. we're going to show you what happened next. we'll get an update from our excellent reporter ivan watson, he's on the ground in turkey. [ man ] look how beautiful it is.
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the environment and climate change. the president is using his executive authority to target carbon emissions. the epa announcing today the proposed regulations. they call for power plants to cut carbon emissions 30% by the year 2030. critics say the plan amounts to a war on coal. the u.s. chamber of commerce predicts it will kill hundreds of thousands of jobs. the new regulations could also affect some key senate races. the epa administrator says the country does not have to choose between the environment and the economy. >> so time after time, when science pointed to health risks, special interests cried wolf to protect their own agenda, not the agenda of the american people. and time after time, we followed the science, we protected the american people in the doomsday predictions never came true. >> let's bring in our chief political analyst gloria borger who's here with me. how important is this rule the president's put into action? >> it's going to have, if it
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goes into effect and congress doesn't try to undo it and it doesn't get stuck in the courts, it would have a huge environmental impact, wolf, because burning coal is the largest source of greenhouse gas emissions. and the epa says -- this is not me, this is the epa, is that a 30% reduction in carbon pollution from these power plants is the equivalent of canceling all carbon pollution from two-thirds of all trucks and all cars in america. so it would have a huge impact, but there's a big if here, and that is, there's already talk in congress of trying to overturn this and there's already talk of lawsuits obviously from the coal industry. >> if the president signs it, the new president, if it's a republican, could unsign it just as quickly. once it's the law of the land, president signs it into law, then you need another piece of legislation to get rid of it. >> it could get tied up. if it stands, it will transform
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how energy is used, how energy is generated, how energy is distributed in this country. this is clearly a legacy issue for the president. as he told us months ago, that he was going to use the pen, he's been grfrustrated by congress. climate change has been a huge issue for him. it's been a huge issue for the base of his party. this is something that he's doing on top of those auto emission standards that he generated in his first term. so he's clearly try to establish his legacy. the big question i have politically is what does he then do on the keystone pipeline? does this mean since he's done this, he could let the pipeline be built or is this a signal he won't do it? >> i think he'll delay a final decision again until after the november elections. >> that we all know, absolutely. >> i'll sure alison grimes in kentucky, the challenger, not very happy with what the president has done. >> they were racing to see who could get a statement out first opposing the president and she talked about the president's
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attack, is the word she used, on the coal industry and she blamed the president specifically. this is coming from a democrat. >> all right, gloria. political fallout, environmental fallout, we have a lot to discuss. thanks very much. coming up, a cnn reporter's harassed and detained by police in turkey. our correspondent ivan watson explains what he was reporting on, what happened next. this is a shocking report. we're going live to istanbul when we come back.
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rocks, bottles and police cracking down with their use of force as well. so -- excuse me -- we're, i think we're being -- >> can i see your passport? >> which camera? which camera? >> cnn. >> okay, can i see your passport? >> so we're now being checked -- journalist right here. this is my press card. it allow mes me to work -- >> ivan joining us now from istanbul. this is pretty shocking stuff to our viewers. how all this unfold and what happened. >> we were doing a routine live report, as i had done kind of throughout the day, and as you can see, in the video, plainclothes police officers approached me, began asking for my identifications. they did not accept my yellow
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turkish press accreditation which is issued by the office of the prime ministry. they later said there had been many counterfeits so they asked for a second form of identification even though that press accreditation in turkey, you can actually use it to check in to domestic flights and hotels. it's accepted as a primary form of accreditation. they broke the microphone on our camera as they were shoving our camera man's camera down. i actually got kneed in the pose steerier as they were shoving me. i was held for about a half hour as they checked by identity. eventually, an officer apologized for basically another officer kicking me. but later on, they brought us a written document that they asked us to sign, in which we would have confessed to have obstructed the police in their duties. they wanted us to sign that, without the presence of a lawyer, and wouldn't even let us take photos of the document to
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send to a lawyer to get some kind of consultation first. we, in the end, did not sign that document. the only difference between what happened here, wolf, and what happens to reporters like me in a lot of different countries around the world is this was caught live on television. it's important to note that turkish protesters who came out, many of them peacefully, hoping to demonstrate, were hit with tear gas a couple hours later on the same streets behind me, sprayed with water cannons, beaten with clubs. i saw some police hurling rocks at some of the demonstrators and hundreds of people were detained around the country on saturday. so whatever i received is just a fraction of kind of the treatment that people who dare to stand up to the security forces or the turkish government face on a monthly, if not weekly, basis in this country, particularly over the course of the last year. >> it's pretty shocking,
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especially when you think that turkey, turkey is actually an ally, a nato ally of the united states. for this kind of press harassment to be taking place is very, very shocking. you deserve more than simply an apology from the officials in istanbul where -- are you okay now, are you okay, ivan? >> absolutely, wolf, and thanks for the concern. it's not -- in the grand scheme of things, i've been detained in countries like iran and russia, roughed up, my colleagues roughed up in other countries. the biggest issue is how turkish journalists are treated in this country. according to the organization reporters without borders, turkey ranks 154 out of 180 countries, behind iraq and russia. dozens of journalists over the course of the last year have been forced out of their jobs, fired, for challenging the turkish government. turkey was rated the world's
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worst jailor of journalists. in the last couple of months, more than a dozen of those journalists have been released. however, turkey has shut down youtube in this country, despite a constitutional court order, saying it is unconstitutional to shut down youtube. just about a week and a half before elections in march, the government shut down twitter and only opened it afterwards. it is those kinds of signs as well as the repeated use of force that i see in the streets of this city every month against for the most part peaceful demonstrators that have really raised alarms for a country that a few years ago was moving closer towards joining the european union and has been a long-term alley in the nato military alliance. >> it's shocking a nato ally would behave like this. ivan, thanks very much. you always do excellent courageous reporting for us. we'll take a quick break. we'll be right back. what's your function? ♪ ♪ hooking up the country helping business run ♪
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want to get the latest on the day's big story. bowe bergdahl has been freed. his liberty traded for the release of five guantanamo detainees. there you see the five arriving in qatar earlier today where they will now spend the next year. as the controversy grows, there are also serious questions about exactly who these five taliban members are. here's what a pentagon spokesman said about the threat they may pose.
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>> secretary hagel made the determination this was in the national interest. i can tell you, he be made this clear, he would never have signed that order. he would have never done that if he didn't believe we had the appropriate assurances from the government of qatar these individuals were not going to pose a direct threat to the national security of the united states. >> all of them will now spend the next year in qatar under what's being described as a travel ban. our tim lister takes us through their identities. >> these photographs posted by a taliban spokesman purportedly show the five guantanamo detainees arriving in qatar. they'd also been held by the u.s. for more than a decade after being captured in afghanistan or pakistan during the invasion that ended taliban rule. khair ulla said waali is thought to be the most important. a former interior minute there are alleged to be associated with osama bin laden. mullah mohammad fazl was accused
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of being involved in the massacre of thousands of shiites. number three is mullah norullah nori, who always claimed he was not a senior taliban official. u.s. intelligence allege that abdul haq wasiq had been number two in the group with links to al qaeda. finally, mohammed nabi omary, according to his reviews, he also had links to al qaeda. he claims he helped the u.s. track down the taliban's shadowy leader mullah omar. two years ago, the director of intelligence told congress all five had been assessed as both too dangerous to release and too difficult to put on trial. >> i don't think anyone harbors any illusions about these five taliban members and what they might -- might do if they were transferred. >> but even then, the obama
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administration was considering a halfway house in qatar for the five men, as part of a deal that might bring the taliban to peace talks. tim lister, cnn. >> lots of complaints coming out of washington that the deal for sergeant bowe bergdahl will embolden terrorists like the taliban. earlier, we heard a response to that from two former national security advisers who were speaking at a national security conference here in washington. >> the problem is if you swap or pay to get your hostages back, you invent vice hostage taking. that's the problem. >> they know the value, frankly, of being able to take an american. american soldier captive. and i don't think this -- i don't think we need any inventive to do that. i don't find any argument. we have that risk every single day in afghanistan and we deal with that risk. >> we'll have much more on this debate later in "the situation room." the house intelligence committee
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their disputes with her. we don't believe the nba has any kind of problem with it. who may have a problem with it, doc rivers and some other members of the clippers. doc rivers said if any of the sterlings were still involved with the team, not everybody would be happy with that. doc rivers said he wasn't necessarily speaking for himself but he said others might have a problem with it. we're digging into what kind of role she will have. don't have that information just yet. >> what about v.ive ya stiviano? >> according to her attorney, she was leaving with her sister and some friends when two men according to the lawyer followed her yelling racial slurs. according to her lawyer, they purged her several times. part of her face is swollen. she didn't immediately file a police report but she may do that today. the lawyer said, i believe she will file a police report today. it's very strange. trouble seems to follow this woman wherever she goes. >> i know you're working the story. a lot more later. how does the arab world view
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take a closer look now at the arab world and how it views the united states and the obama administration. it's been exactly five years since president obama gave that historic address at cairo university. during that speech, he promised a new era of u.s. and arab and muslim relations. >> so long as our relationship
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is defined by our differences, we will empower those who sow hatred rather than peace, those who promote conflict rather than the cooperation that can help all of our people achieve justice and prosperity. and this cycle of suspicion and discord must end. >> so has that cycle of suspicion and discord ended? what's going on right now? let's welcome the president of the arab-american institute, james zogby, to us right now. you just conducted, five years after the speech, an important poll, arab attitudes. give us a headline. >> i think suspicions remain, and a lack of confidence is clearly there. a sense that the u.s. cannot deliver on the promises of the cairo speech, i think, colors the whole arab attitude toward america and the president.
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>> do they approve of the way president obama 5 1/2 years into his administration is conducting policy in the middle east? >> well, some issues, yes. for example, public opinion tells us they did not want military action in syria. i think the president just spoke at west point saying that americans are war weary and wary of new engagement. i think after iraq and afghanistan, a rabs are wary of american military engagement too. >> there are plenty of people, in saudi arabia for example, who want the united states to get involved in syria. >> i think that's true. i think there's a late of confidence and trust. for example, majorities overwhelm little support negotiations with iran but majorities overwhelm little don't have the confidence america will accomplish something with those. same with the midwedle east pea process, they don't have confidence that we're committed to making it work. they see how our domestic
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politics plays out. i did the show with you five years ago and -- >> right after the cairo speech. >> right, and we got a taste how krzs we conservatives were going to act. unable to win his way with congress and with getting the promise of cairo delivered on. >> john kerry, the secretary of state, he's been trying his best to do it. george mitchell tries as a special middle east envoy. but so far, not much success. >> on the second anniversary of the cairo speech, i heard the president speak at the state department. another brilliant speech. three days later, i was in the middle east when netanyahu was speak and congress getting 29 standing ovation for insulting the president and for saying i will defy what he said about the '67 borders. so there's a sense he can't deliver and he's unable to break through the system and do it and we see that all throughout the numbers. his numbers are up. >> his approval numbers. >> his approval numbers are up. >> compared to bush? >> bush is the least favored. clinton was actually the
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favored. not george bush's father. >> they still admire bill clinton? >> enorm mussily, and obama's numbers are divided between those who think he's a great president -- >> there were huge expectations after that cairo speech, after the istanbul speech, when he spoke to the muslim world. have they felt -- and this survey, this new zogby poll you've got, arab attitudes throughout the arab world towards this president, have they felt disappointed that he hasn't been able to deliver? is . i think disappointment is the word. the plummet when the numbers were so high to 2011 where they sank to bush era lows. >> there are different at. >> uae numbers are very high. palestinian numbers are very high. they don't think he is going deliver. he went there and the speech in
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jerusalem, people remember the israel part. the compassionate speaking about palestine was forgotten by others. so one we say high, we're talking 30%. >> thanks for having me and continuing the conversation. >> years from now we will have another conversation. >> i hope sit better. >> we will see what happens. up next, it's been 100 years since the birth of commercial aviation. much has changed in the airline industry since then but one thing has remained constant. a delicate balance of highry risk and high reward. we will explain when we come back.
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across tampa bay, florida, in 1914. it was humble beginnings for an industry which has transformed our world. then the mayor of st. petersberg paid $400, worth $9,000 in today's money for the privilege of becoming the first paying passenger. what the wright brothers started, others continued. think about it. 8 million of us each day get on a plane and take to the skies. with those trips went the hopes and dreams. families to be reunited. ambitions soon realized.
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the entrepreneurial spirit continued as more and more airlines took to the skies. pan american world air ways blazed a trail across the atlantic with jet aircraft and trumpeting service. >> a new concept in air transportation. the trevail has been taken out of travel. the concept of risk and reward eventually went into reverse. panam couldn't survive. the ceo of the airline industries trade association tony tyler has seen them come and go. >> these names have come and gone.
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that tells us that consolidation is the way forward in this industry. it brings a new business model, that's something else that has happened over the years. every airline starts off with a new model and a new way to go. >> risk and reward is everywhere in aviation. a stroll through the engine display at the london science museum ends up at the rb 211 built by rolls royce. this more than perhaps any other engine symbolizes the contradiction in aviation. on the one hand sit is a technology marvel. ushering in a new generation of power plants.
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>> what we need in this industry to be really successful is a global mind set. the industry that makes global possible. and what that means is that everybody in it has to understand that part of it, they think globally in everything they do. an airboat that crossed tampa bay, but there is one thing that
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everyone still shares, balancing risk and reward. >> that's it for me. i will be back 5:00 p.m. in the situation room. "newsroom" with brooke baldwin starts right now. >> thank you wolf. hi there. thank you so much for being with me here on this monday. we have to begin this hour that the taliban held captive for nearly five years. a lot of questions here today. was freedom worth swapping five taliban leaders from guantanamo bay? did the president break the law in allowing the exchange to happen? and how is berdahl doing? we will get to that later. the release shows that the united states does not leave a man or woman behind on the battlefield.
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