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will enjoy characters in the film, including mace windu -- actually, that's it. so thank you, lupita, for giving fans one more reason to hope that the new sequel won't suck. that's it for "the lead." i'm jake tapper. i now turn you over to wolf blitzer in "the situation room." secret mission revealed. we have dramatic new details about sergeant bowe bergdahl's condition and the mission to set him free as president obama faces tough new questions about the deal he brokered to bring him home. armed and dangerous. the fbi now on a nationwide manhunt for a san francisco political operative accused of having explosive materials in his home. and praying for forgiveness, donald sterling visits a predominantly african-american church, the pastor hoping to help him through this controversy. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room."
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we begin with dramatic new details about former p.o.w. bowe bergdahl's condition and the treatment cease receiving right now at landstuhl hospital in germany. this is 48 hours after being recovered from special operation forces in a highly controversial diplomatic swap that set five taliban detainees free. the exchange authorized by president obama is getting heavy praise from some but growing criticism from others claiming that it put the united states at risk and even potentially breaking the law. our guests are all standing by. first, let's bring in our pentagon correspondent barbara starr. she's joining us now with new information. wolf? >> barbara, at this hour, bergdahl is working with psychologists at the army hospital. they want to restore his trust. he hasn't been able to speak to
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anyone in five years that he can actually trust. that may be job one. they are also treating him formal nutrition and other medical needs but at this hour, perhaps the prereal issue is ho did the mission unfold. new details about how it all came together and how risky it was. after five years, a taliban captive -- >> release me, please. i'm begging you. bring me home. >> sergeant bowe bergdahl is finally heading home. cnn has learned details of the secret choreography for the u.s. commando operation to get bergdahl that had been quickly worked out between the u.s. and the taliban. in the final hours, an extraordinary move. a u.s. official tells cnn the taliban communicated directly with the american special operations forces team, the
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coordinates where they could pick bergdahl up. they would release him after being assured five taliban at guantanamo bay were being turned over to qatari custody there. the u.s. team worried, until the last minute, that something would go wrong. in the end, with helicopter gun ships flying nearby, one u.s. helicopter landed. the armed americans faced 18 armed taliban and bergdahl. he walked to him. they quickly got him on the chopper. once on the noisy bergdahl, he wrote down the words "sf" and a question mark on the paper plate asking the men if they were special forces. over the noise of the rotors, they wrote back, yes, we've been looking for you for a long time. at that point, bergdahl broke down crying. now, as he recovers at a hospital in germany, the questions. if bergdahl indeed left his outpost of his own free will, is he a desserter as many on social
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media say. should he be charged? >> i don't think right now that we know exactly what was in his mind when he left that post. but let's not forget, he was held captive as a prisoner for five years. five years by himself. that's a pretty high price to pay for whatever impelled him to walk off that base. >> now u.s. military officials say now they must hear from bergdahl directly, when he is able, about what really happened, what caused him to leave the base and then once they hear his side of the story, they will make decisions about whether to proceed with discipline against him. wolf? >> barbara, thank you. joe yons johns is over at the w house today. the white house administration is taking heat over this. what is the story? >> reporter: the truth is, this is welcome news for the bergdahl family but, wolf, it has not
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been the big public relations victory for the administration. instead of taking a victory lap for bringing bowe bergdahl home, the white house deflected tough questions, not just for failing to notify congress of the plan but for the decision to release the taliban prisoners at all. >> has the president put a price on the heads of other americans because of the way this deal went down? >> i think this goes back to the general proposition that has been truth throughout our history of the nation. there is a long history of a prisoner exchange and previous armed conflicts and this action that was taken to recover sergeant bergdahl is entirely consistent with this past practice. >> reporter: but tonight, south carolina senator lindsey graham is calling the former detainees the, quote, taliban dream team. though the white house says measures were taken to try to neutralize the danger.
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>> it was taken in consultation with the team that there were sufficient mitigation steps taken by qatar and assurances received by the united states that these detainees do not pose a threat to u.s. national security. >> reporter: federal law requires congress to be notified 30 days before prisoners from guantanamo bay can be released to another country. today, the white house admitted that didn't happen, saying it had to move so quickly to secure the release, there was only time to tell congress after the deal was done. >> it was the judgment of the team and the president that there was enough you are general see that sergeant bergdahl safely recovered, that a 30-day window of hoping that that opportunity remained open was not an option. >> reporter: today the white house chief of staff pushed back, too, saying congress had been kept in the loop about the bergdahl case for years. >> we've been consulting members
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of congress about this effort, including the potential transfer of five gitmo detainees for years. >> reporter: in the meantime tonight, some are also asking if the administration oversold bergdahl's standing with the army. some in his unit complain that he was captured after he left his base alone and he was attempting to dessert the army. >> he served the united states with honor and distinction. >> but when asked today, jay car knee sidestepped the opportunity to bolster that characterization. the big question is how bergdahl ended up in the hands of the taliban in the first place. carney says it will be up to the defense department to try to figure that one out. wo wolf? >> much more on that later. we're learning much more about the five senior taliban detainees that are now freed as a result. pamela brown is joining us. >> james clapper said it was too
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dangerous to release from guantanamo bay. now they are free as part of the prisoner swap and the taliban is claiming victory. the men seen here in video were greeted as heroes when they landed in qatar. for years they have been considered extremely dangerous by the u.s. government. >> i don't think anyone harbors any illusions about these five taliban members and what they might do if they were transferred. >> reporter: that changed saturday when the men were allowed to leave guantanamo bay. among the detainees released are khair ulla said and mullmulla
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mullah mohammad fazi and mullah norullah noori. he was characterized as high risk and having high intelligence value. u.s. intelligent sources once said abdul haq wasiq was second in command with links to al qaeda. finally, mohammed nabi om mohammed nabi omari reportedly helped troops escape from afghanistan to pakistan. they are being watched by foreign intelligent services. >> officials will not elaborate on what those assurances were and qatar officials helped secure this exchange. wolf, as part of this deal there is a one-year ban on travel for
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this. apparently that was a big sticking point. >> after a year, presumably, they could get on a plane, go out to qatar and go back to pakistan and do whatever they want. we're going to have much more on this. coming up, much more coverage of the dramatic story. i'll speak live with mike rogers. he's very unhappy about this deal. i'll explain why. weeks after the racist rant, donald sterling pays a visit to a predominantly african-american church. we'll have details.
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let's get back to our developing story. the return of sergeant bowe bergdahl. joining us now is republican congressman mike rogers of michigan. mr. chairman, thanks very much for coming in. >> thanks for having me, wolf. >> we heard today from the white house chief of staff, denis mcdonough and jay carney saying that they've been briefing you and other intelligence committee in the senate, for example, about various negotiations going back years involving the freedom of bowe bergdahl so you shouldn't have been surprised by this weekend's development. is that good enough for you? >> oh, absolutely not. as a matter of fact, that last meeting where he talked about the house and senate where they had all of the national security chairs in the room, there was bipartisan opposition to release prisoners in an exchange and that was back in 2011. by the way, they pitched that at the time of a confidence builder into negotiating a peace agreement. so clearly that doesn't jive with what they've just been
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saying and to come out that forcefully and we have pretty good records in both the senate and the house, it makes no sense to me whatsoever. i don't know why they want to get into a public match of some sort with the house and the senate intelligence committee whose job and responsibility it is by both statute and constitution is oversee these very sensitive operations. so, again, it baffles me, other than when they did try this pitch in 2011, bipartisan opposition thinking this is a really bad idea even for its stated intent then and now the intent is completely different. >> well, the argument that they make is back in 2011 when they spoke to you about this. bowe bergdahl's health was apparently better and deteriorated, they say. they didn't really have time to go through formal consultations with you guys on the hill. is that good enough? >> well, again, unfortunately, we're going through the records now and that does not reflect the records and information that we have available to us as even this afternoon.
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so this thing was going on for weeks. as a matter of fact, maybe as early as last december when this thing re-engaged to any meaningful way. so that is wrong and it's misleading and, again, i don't understand that. i have to tell you, a, i don't like the deal. i think it's a bad deal and a doing rouse precedent but why would they go through this trying to say they don't know what they are talking about when in a bipartisan way we understand that just didn't happen? they'd be better off saying something different. i won't say what they ought to say but they sure should come up and get this story straight amongst themselves. this health issue, again, we learned today, is simply not the case. it wasn't this -- they had no information that he had an acute health issue as of last weekend. they just didn't have it. now, these are the people who make the assessments. why would you say that to the american people and it just not be accurate? this is maddening to me and this
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is the second round of secret negotiations. if you remember, when they did with the iranians, we argued that they probably violated the rule and the law that says you have to keep congress currently informed and there's a reason for that. there's a lot of experience in that room. you think of how many people offer advice and consent the way that the founding fathers envisioned because you say, hey, have you thought about these five things? apparently you have not. in the iranian deal, we have honked off for our allies. we did it again for the pri prisoners and we have all of these people up in arms. they need to get out of this trap and they've set a horrible transfer. >> there could potentially be released on the secret iranian negotiations as well as the release of sergeant bowe bergdahl. but do you believe the president of the united states broke the
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law by engaging in this exchange? >> i think it certainly merits further review and that's what i'm going to do to make that determination. it certainly doesn't smell right to me and i want to back up for a minute. the covert action that we do in both the house and senate is so more sensitive than what you see with this prisoner exchange. it's sensitive and causes international concerns and other concerns and forced protection concerns for our troops and forced protection for our diplomats around the world. again, another reason you want another set of eyes and ears on this. but the sensitive information that flies through that commission, that is nonsense and an excuse to try to violate or circumvent a law of the united states. you cannot continue to do -- this is a dangerous precedent that is being set here when you have those secret negotiations and everybody said, bad idea, don't do it again. i'm worried, are there other
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secret negotiations that congress has not informed and they need to be informed by the law, by the way. there are triggers and mechanisms we have to go through, including mitigation of the damage after this happens which, by the way, we'll have to go through now because of the new dangers presented to our troops in the world and our diplomats around the world. those are the two largest complaints i'm getting from diplomats, diplomats' family's. >> the law is that states cannot release anyone from gitmo without 30 days notification to congress except the signing agreement when the president signed hr-3304 into law, there's one clause that says the executive branch must have the flexibility, among other things, to act swiftly in conducting negotiations with foreign countries regarding the circumstance of detainee transfers. so they are saying that when the
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president signed this into law, he had a waiver. he, being the commander in chief, can waive the 30-day permission. do you accept that? >> no, i do not and i think it's wrong for a number of reasons. one, we knew there was information that started last december when there was the kickoff of these negotiations. then january and february. it's june. some notion that they didn't have time to come up and fully brief the congress, it was wrong. they didn't wake up three, four, five days ago and say, hey, we're going to have this prisoner transferred. it's an emergency. that's not what happened. they are basically arguing that they don't have to follow the law because they just don't have to follow the law. so the obama administration is going to assault with the obama administration. if the obama administration should have to follow the law and, guess what, the obama administration decided they don't have to follow the law. that is unacceptable. and what i worry about is not
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from a republican or a democrat position. candidly, that doesn't really matter. there's bipartisan opposition to this. it's about the institution. we're the last guard to make sure that our intelligence services are doing it right, that our defense department is doing it right. that's why you have the founding fathers built into this checks and balance of the system so somebody can say, that's a really dumb idea, let me tell you why, even if you have to do it in a classified way, they didn't use any of that and candidly, i think it puts a price on the heads of our shoulders in afghanistan and clearly they know what the price is. here's the other thing that gets me going on this, wolf. we have information that these groups tried to kidnap other americans in the past and had trading arrangements in the past for one of the members that they've released. so they knew or, at least in their mind believed that they could take tris nprisoners that they can release. they get five very seasoned
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taliban folks when they desperately need them coming on to the battlefield in about 12 months from now and they twoept a place that had a violation, meaning a detainee was sent to qatar before and did not live up to the ban. they ended up arresting him from great britain. that's why you pause to make sure it's important that the family get their loved one home. absolutely. we're all for that. but at what expense for other soldiers and their lives. >> one quick final question if you have the answer. some of the fellow soldiers from afghanistan have accused him of actually being a deserter. what do you know about that? >> this was a topic back in 2011. i think the department of defense needs to do a thorough review and find out and
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determine what caused him to fall into taliban hands and i would think be remiss if i conjectured in on that event. it's pretty serious. we need to find out and they need to go through that review. it's important that people know. i know that certainly soldiers that serve with them are pretty upset right now. >> mike rogers, congressman, thank you very much. >> thanks, wolf. let me bring in jeffrey toobin, our senior legal analyst. you've looked at the law and the signing statement. you've gone through it. did the president break the law? >> i think he clearly broke the law. the law says 30-days' notice. it's true he issued a signing statement but signing statements are not law. it's the president's opinion about what the law should mean. now, it may be that the law is unconstitutional, a violation of his power as commander in chief but no court has held that. the law is on the books and he
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didn't follow it. >> president bush used to do these signing statements that there would be a violation of what he signed into law saying that if he determines, as commander in chief, he could go ahead and do it, it's okay, even though thatting negates the la the land. >> presidents since president roosevelt have issued timing statements but liberals were outraged by george w. bush's signing statements. they think that he was deciding which laws he was going to follow and which ones he wasn't. >> was president bush break the laws, too? >> certainly this is an example of a signing statement where the president is taking power for himself that the law didn't give him. he's specifically contradicting it. that may be constitutional but it's still a violation of what the law says. >> you realize, of course, you're accusing the president of
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the united states about breaking the law. >> well, i don't think the president is worried about what i think about this but i do think that his critics have a very good point here, that you have a law on the books and you have a direct contradiction. the courts generally stay out of it. they say this is to be worked out between the legislative branch and executive branch. they can impeach the president. i don't think that's going to happen here. >> you don't want the president of the united states breaking the law. we'll have much more at the top of the hour. the return of sergeant bergdahl, including a live interview with the deputy national security adviser to the president. guess what, tony blinken has very different views on all of this. plus, police shut down an entire block in san francisco as the fbi searches for a man having a house full of bombs.
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we are just learning brand-new details about the deal shelly sterling reached with the nba as donald sterling makes a bizarre appearance at a predominantly black church in los angeles. our brian todd has been joining us. >> we have new information about shelly sterling's role with the l.a. clippers once the sale goes through. to the surprise of almost no one, she's not going to go away quietly. even while negotiating the sale of the clippers for $2 billion, donald sterling's estranged wife was also working out a position for the team for herself. while she won't take part in unaring the clippers from day-to-day after selling it to ceo of microsoft steve ballmer, she would allow to attend games in the arena, something that the
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nba's lifetime ban doesn't allow for her husband. a deal that some say may not sit well with players and fans. >> i think ideally, you'd want a clean break. ideally, anybody with the last name sterling is part of the backdrop and it adds another cycle to the news. >> reporter: our source says once people understand what role shelly will have with the team, they won't have a problem with it. as part of the deal to sell the clippers, shelly sterling also made a separate agreement with the league, promising to protect it from lawsuits from donald. >> if it's an air-tight indemnification, which is sounds like it is, the nba cannot be on the hook for damages. miss sterling is required to pay the damages. >> reporter: but that agreement did not stop her estranged husband from going to court. last friday he called for the nba to lift the lifetime ban and $2 million fine imposed on it.
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while all of this was going on, donald sterling has damage control. he attended a church service in south central los angeles of a predominantly african-american. this was at the invitation of the pastor. most people who we talked to, strategic communication strategists, said that it's probably too little, too late and probably didn't help his view from the public. they believe donald and shelly sterling were working together in this whole thing, almost colluting because the sale of the team moved too fast and moved too easily for it not to be max blecher has said that they are not polluting. >> v. stiviano, the other woman who was apparently recording all of those recordings, she is making the news.
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>> two men followed her as she left a restaurant yelling racial slurs at her and then punched her several times leaving her face swollen and red. she's expected to file a police report at some point. let's go to jeffrey toobin who is with us and don lemon joining us from new york. what do you make of shelly making an appearance? >> she's been going to games anyway since the crisis hit. the nba owes her a certain debt of gratitude because she got them out of this whole dilemma because she engineered the sale of the team to steve ballmer. so if she can go to games and give herself a fancy title named owner emiritus, i don't think anybody is going to give her a hard time. >> hshe was allowed to go to th
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playoff games even after he was banned for life. >> i think the coach at that time had enough on his plate. he said this is one last thing i don't want to deal with. i think he probably let her go to the games. i don't really know how the team and how the fans are going to react to her having any sort of role because last i checked and last just taking the temperature of the people who were the fans and the team, they wanted shelly sterling to having in to do with the team, even if it is an owner ameritus position. i don't know if it will cause a glitch. i don't know but i don't think it's a good idea. >> what about this notion that donald sterling through his attorneys is filing a $1 billion lawsuit? you're smiling. >> i just don't think that this lawsuit is going to go anywhere and the nba achieved a remarkable indemnification agreement from the nba. >> she would have to pay it from that trust.
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>> i have given this pace in which the california justice system operates, this is going to be a slow boat if not for a few months but for a few years. >> don, what do you make of the decision by donald sterling to go to this predominantly african-american church and show his solidarity with the african-american community? >> i would just say this. as a member of the baptist church in louisiana still where i went to church, he went to the praises of zion missionary bapti baptist church, we believe in forgiveness. we don't forget. he went to the right place if he wants forgiveness but people are not going to forget what he did. i would like to think that it was an earnest attempt to vindicate himself and to find the lord but i think it's obvious what it is. he's trying to save face and i
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just think that people see that and you know donald sterling, go to a church where you normally go, if you go and i wouldn't be going to a black baptist church on sunday. i just think it embarrasses him. >> it looks like he was pretty well-received at that church? >> as i said, we believe in forgiveness but we don't forget. if you go into a house of worship, no one is going to call at you or yell at you. that's what the lord is about, it's about forgiveness. that doesn't mean that we want you to own the team, the church would say. we'll forgive you, scream and shot with you, get the holy ghost and people will fan you and whatever, we will do all of those things but on the team, no, not at all. >> v. stiviano, jeffrey, she was apparently roughed up in new york city. where does she fit into the final chapter in this deal to sell the clippers, ban donald
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sterling for life? >> i think there is going to be a where are they now column from every year now on into the future. that's about it. i don't see much other else as a public figure for v. >> what about you, don? >> well, here's the thing. when i heard about this v. stiviano thing because earlier saturday night and then all last night i was in the same area where she was, right down by soho house, by the standard hotel and usually that place is -- it's not a busy place. it's very kardashianized now. it's a very small place and people would have been talking about it. no one mentioned v. stiviano. i hope that she's telling the true and it's odd that something like that would happen to her as high-profile as her and have no one in the area that heard about it and she didn't even file a
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police report. i want to see what the outcome is going to be. to me, it's odd that no one talked about it. >> can we hear more about don saturday night? >> well, if you really want to. >> we'll hear more about it tonight at 10:00, "cnn tonight" with don lemon. he'll have more on the donald sterling affair as well. just ahead, a situation room special report. the return of sergeant bergdahl with new questions about the deal that brought him home and whether he's a hero, whether he's a deserter. and next, what could be the most important act potentially of president obama's term that could be felt not only in the united states but around the world. (vo) after 50 years of designing cars for crash survival, subaru has developed our most revolutionary feature yet.
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president obama is taking his boldest executive action yet to combat climate change but republican and some democratic critics are arguing that the changes could cost lots of american jobs. cnn's government regulation correspondent rene marsh has been investigating all of this for us. what are you finding out? >> critics say it could be a hit to the economy in the billions, a sucker punch to low and middle income families. but the administration paints a different picture. both sides battle it out and democrats in red states and cold states deal with a battle of their own. one of the strongest actions by any president to tackle climate change, president obama is bypassing congress and mandating
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by 2030 the nation's power plants must cut emissions 30% from where they were in 2005. epa administrator gina mccarthy delivered the message. >> this is not just about disappearing polar biz and melting ice caps. this is about protecting our health and it is about protecting our homes. >> reporter: inaction means dire consequences, according to a white house climate report. rising sea levels will threaten millions of people in coastal areas. heavy drought, heatwaves, and wildfires will scorch communities and agriculture, sending food prices higher. the epa predicts the cut in carbon emissions will cause 6,000 premature deaths and 150,000 asthma attacks in children. >> states have to design plans now and they have to stop reducing so they can be on a trajectory to meet their final
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goals in 2030. >> reporter: the plan, a political lightning rod. cold state republicans and even some republicans say it will kill jobs and heighten consumer electric bills. house speaker john boehner calling the plan nuts. the leading senate leader calling it nuts. >> this is the single biggest blow to the economy. >> when america has taken steps to protect pollution, opponents of those steps have made dire predictions of destroying jobs and harming the economy and throughout our history they have been wrong. >> reporter: who is right? >> i think the proof will be in the pudding. will electric rates go up? will consumers feel a pinch? will businesses layoff employees? and we'll have a better idea in six months or a year or two years. >> reporter: obama's move could be a problem for coal state
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democrats running for re-election in 2014. >> he's not looking to the midterm so much. it's now about his legacy and accomplishing what he can given that he knows he can't get anything through the republican house. >> so if you're a coal state democrat, what do you do? as he put it, you make lemonade out of the lemon that the president just handed you today. democrats in red and blue coal states say we don't stand with the president on this. the states have a deadline of june 30th, 2016, to submit their plans but we already know we should expect legal challenges to this. >> i'm sure there will be. rene marsh, thank you for reporting on this. the return of sergeant bergdahl amid the celebrations, there are lingering questions about the day bergdahl disappeared. did he desert the u.s. army? >> and we're going live to the
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happening now, hero or de deserter? former soldiers bristling at bowe bergdahl. emotional celebration. bergdahl's hometown is overjoyed at nice of his release. what are his friends and neighbors saying about the controversy that's overshadowing his freedom? five taliban detainees freed from guantanamo bay in exchange for bergdahl. was the deal illegal? i'm wolf blitzer. this is a "situation room" special report. the return of sergeant bergdahl. bitter controversy is
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casting a shadow over the release of a prisoner of war, sergeant bowe bergdahl. he was held captive five years and freed over the weekend in exchange for five detainees held at guantanamo bay. bergdahl is under the care of u.s. military doctors and specialists in germany. there are questions about the prisoner swap that freed him and whether bergdahl is a hero or deserter. our correspondents and guests are covering all angles of the story. our chief washington correspondent jake tapper, anchor of "the lead" begins our coverage. jake, there are several soldiers, you've spoken with some of them, who are highly critical of bergdahl. >> our impulse when a p.o.w. is freed is to rejoice, celebration, we're happy an american is back with his family, but the truth is after this story broke, i spent the weekend talking to more than a dozen people, soldiers who served with bergdahl in his squad, in his platoon, in his company and they are very distressed at the hero's welcome
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he is receiving. >> good day. >> yes, good day. >> reporter: welcome news for bowe bergdahl's parents. their son, america's only known prisoner of war was released by his taliban captors and coming home to idaho. >> five years is a seemingly endless long time, but you've made it. >> reporter: but new details coming to light about how bergdahl's freedom was both lost and regained complicate any planned ticker tape parades. these are the faces of five mid to high level taliban prisoners smiling as they're released from guantanamo bay to qatar in exchange for bergdahl. trading for hostages or prisoners of war not unprecedented in american history, this latest swap has opponents. >> you've sent a message to every al qaeda group in the world that says that there is some value now in that hostage in a way that they didn't have before. >> reporter: the obama administration defends the deal.
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>> the united states of america does not leave our men and women in uniform behind ever. >> reporter: bergdahl is currently in germany where his physical and mental health are the priorities. one of his first tasks is relearning english. >> i hope your english is coming back and i want you to know that i love you. i'm proud of you. i'm so proud of your character. >> reporter: his parents' joy notwithstanding, more than a dozen soldiers who served with bergdahl call him a deserter, tell cnn he purposely left the post. an afghan child told some of them he saw an american soldier that morning walking by himself. on nbc's "meet the press" sunday, chuck hagel deferred questions about how bergdahl came to be in enemy hands. >> i'm not surprised that there are still questions and until we get the facts exactly what the condition of sergeant bergdahl is. we can't go much further in speculating. >> reporter: soldiers on the ground at the time told cnn
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insurgents were able to take advantage of the massive military undertaking to try to rescue bergdahl with ieds placed more effectively and ambushes calcula calculated. six americans were killed in that effort, troops on the ground tell cnn. private first class morris walker, kirk curtis, darren andrews, matthew martinek. for their parents this moment will never come. >> today families across america share in the joy that i know you feel. >> reporter: many soldiers are furious. the facebook page, bowe bergdahl is not a hero was started by one of bergdahl's former squad leaders and has nearly 6,000 members. a petition to punish bergdahl for going a-wol was started hours after his release. people who served with bergdahl want answers if not a court-martial for desertion. defense officials tell cnn the
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sergeant will likely not face punishment, indestead he may be promoted to staff sergeant later this month. officials tell cnn that president obama was aware about the complicated details surrounding bergbergdahl's disappearance and the hunt for him, wolf, but argue leave no man behind does not come with any caveats. wolf? >> he's now, eventually after germa germany, he'll be back in the united states. thanks very much for that report. the controversy isn't dimming the celebration of bergdahl's hometown where he is considered a hero. cnn is in haley, idaho, watching what's going on. what is going on, george? >> reporter: wolf, people here know full well about the controversy. they know that there are people who question the nature of his capture and nature of his release. also there are people they know that they say bergdahl is not a hero still, people here, the steadfast, the support, i should say, is steadfast for this
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soldier. when you drive into hailey, idaho, and see the yellow ribbons, the flags and balloons that have lined these streets for years, residents here say it's all very simple. >> it's about bringing a soldier home. and doing the right thing. >> reporter: it's a spirit of homecoming for sergeant bowe bergdahl. his family, friends, and even a former employer are all anxious to see him safely home after so much uncertainty. >> we're not holding our breath anymore hoping and waiting and just waiting for bowe to have his freedom. >> reporter: a close friend of bergdahl's family, sue martin, transformed her coffee shop for a hometown hero, but on some social media and statements made by some of bergdahl's former platoon members, his service is viewed in a much more critical manner. some call him a deserter. there are claims he was critical of the war effort and when he disappeared from his post, the search to find him cost other soldiers their lives.
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martin says people are too quick to make judgment. >> we're going to learn about what happened through bowe and i don't think anybody else can tell that story. i think that's his story as to what happened and why and all the circumstances surrounding his capture. >> reporter: for the years bowe bergdahl couldn't talk, his father, bob, has been outspoken online like in this video recently made with "the guard n guardian" before his son's release. >> i know that was bowe's motivation, to help these people. it's how the war is shaped in the minds of a lot of americans. is that we are there as some kind of peace corps with guns. and that is just an impossible mission. it's a mission that we're not very good at, i don't believe. i think the last decade proves that. >> reporter: bob bergdahl even learned the language of pashto
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in hopes of communicating with his son's captors. he also grew out a beard as a symbolic gesture. >> to just have relativity and show we do have things in common. that i'm a father of my son, and you are a father of your sons. and that's where he started his platform of trying to learn their culture and to relate to them as he hoped they could relate to he and his family. >> reporter: so here's the thing. there are many polar opinions about what's happening here. we got a news release from the city of hailey basically saying the city is being inundated, wolf, inundated with phone calls, people voicing their many opinions. in this news release they ask people simply not to prejudge. they ask that due process play out here to determine all the facts in this case and hope that happens here in the next couple of days, weeks and months. wolf? >> sure we'll learn a lot more as these days, weeks and months go on. george, thanks very much. lots of questions swirling
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around bergdahl's release. did president obama break the law, has he set a dangerous precedent? i'll ask his deputy national security adviser who's standing by live at the white house. plus those taliban detainees traded for bergdahl, some were linked to osama bin laden. how dangerous are those five men? she keeps you on your toes.
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united states, we make a commitcommi commitment to bring you home. we'll do everything we can to get that done and that's what we did in the case of sergeant bergdahl. second, with regard to the law, here are the facts. we had an urgent situation. we had deep concerns about sergeant bergdahl's health, it was deteriorating, an opportunity that was fast moving to close this deal and bring him back. based on the law we have the flexibility do that. president has made clear when the legislation were put forward to try to restrict his ability to use his authority to move quickly that he disagreed with that. congress has been generally aware of these efforts. this is something that's been discussed for a couple, for several years but we had an urgent matter and had an opportunity and we seized it. >> you know, the chairman, representative chairman, not only the republican chairman of the house intelligence committee, mike rogers but the chairman of the senate intelligence committee dianne feinstein put out a statement.
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she told one of our producers up on capitol hill that the president should have informed the respective chairs of these two committees. you've been talking to these through qatar, been talking to the taliban for several weeks. what are you afraid of? why couldn't you have brought them into this inner circle, let them know what was going on? >> wolf, the deal, itself, came together very, very quickly. beyond that, there was a real risk that if we had gone with the 30 day notification period that, one, the taliban might have reneged on the agreement during that period and, two, there was a real risk of a leak. and so when this came together as quickly as it did, we made a decision to go forward. the department of defense consulted with the justice department to make sure they had an assessment that what we were doing met the letter of the law. that was the assessment that came back. and we decided that we had to act in order to make sure that we took the opportunity and given that this was an urgent matter that the health of
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sergeant bergdahl was in question, we thought it was important to act. i mean, had we not done that, imagine what would have happened if the deal had fallen apart in the interim? what that would have meant. >> but you know what you're suggesting, tony, and mike rogers says a lot more sensitive secret information is shared with the respective chairs of the two intelligence committees than this. what you're suggesting is, as far as a leak is concerned, you really don't trust the intelligence committee chairs to keep a secret? >> no, it's not -- wolf, it's not a matter of trust. this was very, very tightly held within the administration. very few people knew about it because we put a premium on trying to get this done, to get it done quickly, to avoid the possibility of leaks. but in particular, this came together quickly and we decided that we had to act quickly to do it and to try to bring sergeant bergdahl home. that's the commitment we make to all of our soldiers. that's the commitment we made here. >> the other argument they make, we heard it from mike rogers,
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we'll hear it from others who are angry about this and akiz g i kuzing the president of breaking the law. in 2011 when you discussed it with committee members, there was bipartisan opposition to any deal to free these detainees from gitmo, these five detainees and you didn't want to hear that opposition in this particular case. what do you say to that charge that you didn't want to consult because you were afraid of what the democrats and the republicans would say on the hill? >> two things. back in 2011, the agreement that was under discussion then is different than the one that was finally agreed to now. we'll have an opportunity to fully brief congress on that in the days ahead. the taliban made commitments now that it wouldn't make then that i think give us the assurances, and i think will give congress the assurances that we can go forward and make sure that our national security was protected as we did that. in the days ahead, there will be full briefings of the relevant committees in congress and indeed of every member who wants it. >> can you share with us what
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kind of life these five suspected terrorists, they've been held for 12 or 13 years at gitmo. what kind of life are they going to do in doha, qatar, over the next year before they're allowed to fly back to afghanistan and do whatever they want? >> what i can tell you is this, wolf. there's an agreement with the government of qatar as well as personal commitments from the emir of qatar to the president of the united states on the phone that these five will be very carefully monitored. there will be restrictions on their travel, on their activities and as a result of that, we believe that any threat they would pose to the united states, to americans, has been sufficiently mitigated. that was the conclusion of the secretary of defense in consultation with the entire national security team. >> do these five suspected terrorists who were held for so many years at gitmo have american blood on their hands? >> these five are in some cases were senior government officials of the taliban. in one case, the military commander. in another case, an intelligence
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commander and another case a very low-level operative they were apprehended very, very early on after the taliban fell. they've been in gitmo now for, had been in gitmo for about 13 years. >> listen to what james clapper said. this is back in 2012. the director of national intelligence about these five now-freed detainees. >> i don't think any harbors any illusions about these five taliban members and what they might do if they were transf transferred. >> what do you say to that? that's a pretty serious allegation. >> i say to that that as a result of the agreement we reached with the government of qatar, with the personal assurances of the emir of qatar, we have the assurances that they will not pose a threat to the united states or to americans. >> but that's only the next year. what about in the years that follow? >> wolf, you know, going forward, this war is ending in
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afghanistan. our combat operations have come to an end. we'll be out of that business. and there are prisoners in afghan prisons who have been turned over to the afghan government. many of them will inevitably be released by the afghans. what happens at the end of the war, this goes back to our start with george washington, happened with the germans, japanese, with the north koreans is prisoners get exchanged. in this case we made good on a commitment we've had since the first days of our prrepublic. when we have someone in uniform detained on the field of last and we have a chance to get them back, we get them home. >> one final question, was he a deserter? >> look, sergeant bergdahl because we're going to bring him home is going to have a chance to tell his story and right now our focus is on bringing him back home to the united states from germany. making sure he's fully recovered and he'll have a chance to tell his story. >> tony blinken, deputy national security adviser, thank you for joining us. >> thanks. just ahead, who are the five
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five taliban terror detainees traded for the release of u.s. prisoner of war sergeant bowe bergdahl. let's dig deeper now with senior international correspondent nic
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robertson. he's in germany where bergdahl right now is hospitalized. and reporter carol rosenberg of the "miami herald." she's been to guantanamo multiple times, more than any other journalist. carol, you've been tracking these five for a long time. how dangerous, potentially, are they? they've been prisoners at guantanamo bay for 12 or 13 years. >> well, you know, the three of them came on that very first flight, if you remember the picture of 20 men on their knees in orange jumpsuits who were described as the worst of the worst. they were among them. but i can tell you that from my reporting at guantanamo, they were cooperative, collaborative, communal captives. meaning they lived in, you know, medium security, were able to pray with other detainees, eat with other dean dtainees. i understood they were neither troublemakers nor hunger strikers and were not considered dangerous to the guards at
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gitmo. but as we know, you know, the president and senator mccain and the others get to see the classified files and so we know that they come from the defense and intelligence and political and military parts of the taliban which bleed over into each other and the question is, you know, when they two back to their lives, how much are they going to, i suppose, resent their detention at gitmo and continue to see us as the enemy? we held them as the enemy. the other thing is, remember three of them were brought there on that first day when we were searching for osama bin laden and mullah omar and seen as potential intelligence assets. to that degree, that war has moved on. so the question becomes, after a year in qatar, if they're released back to their country and we're still there, what will the relationship be? i suppose.
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>> that's a good question. nick, you're there where bowe bergdahl is being hospitalized. what can you tell us about his condition? what's the very latest? also, do you know if he's had a chance to speak on the phone with his parents in idaho? >> reporter: wolf, if he's had that opportunity to speak to his parents, we haven't been told about it. we're getting a few details. not a lot, but it's just enough to give us an idea of what's happening to him. we're told that he's in a stable condition. that he is getting treatment for conditions, medical conditions that require hospitalization with special focus on his diet and nutrition. this is because of the condition that he's been living in, the dire that he's had while he's been in captivity. so that's what we're learning about him for the sort of psychological help that he's getting, all the other sorts of things, we have no details about that at the moment, wolf. >> still premature to see when
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he's going to be flying from germany to texas to continue that effort to reunite with his family at some point down the road. carol, finally, just a notion about the remaining 140 or so detainees at gitmo. you covered all of them over these many years. how dangerous, potentially, are they? >> well, you know, these five men jumped the queue. they were held as indefinite detainees forever prisoners who were not eligible for release through the various parole board and review procedures that the obama administration had instituted down there. so there are 78 men among the 149 down there who this administration through its intelligence and political analysis has decided should not be there and could go back to yemen or, for example, some might be going to uruguay soon under resettlement, repate
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reizationizati deals they're tr to arrange. there are men in maximum security lockdown held for 10, 12 years and do not get along with their captors. >> carol rosenberg, thanks very much. nic robertson, of course, thanks to you as well. that's it for me. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." let's step into the "crossfire" with van jones and s.e. cupp. there are serious questions about president obama's prisoner swap with of all people the taliban. >> but the deal actually did get our last captured u.s. soldier out of afghanistan. i think some republicans want to send him back. the debate starts now. >> tonight on "crossfire," the president trades five u.s. enemies for an army sergeant. >> the united states of america does not ever leave our men and women in uniform behind. >> republicans accuse obama of breaking the law. >> the obama administration didn't notify anyone in this process. >> on the left, van jones.