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declining health and may indicate he was drugged. newly uncovered information about the disappearance. most notably that his commanders to be a good soldier which is odd from what we've heard from others who serve the with him. we're able to watch the tense moments as taliban hand their captive back. the video was shot and narrated by the taliban who are now using it as propaganda in the region. [ speaking foreign language ]
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[ speaking foreign language ] >> as you said, that's being used as propaganda throughout the entire region in pakistan. it runs considerably longer. it's also the only window we have into bowe bergdahl's first minute of freedom. take a look. >> the riveting eight-minute taliban propaganda video contains intriguing includes about sergeant bowe bergdahl, his taliban captors and his american rescuers. he blinks repeatedly while
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sitting in the pickup truck. signs his eyes were unused to natural light or signs of e meetings. he manages a brief awkward smile. evidence of happiness or nervousness. one captor taps him on l soldier and says, don't come back to afghanistan, next time you won't make it out alive. a taliban narrator sets the scene. we waited in the area for around ten minutes before the helicopters arrived and there were 18 fighters with me in the area and we had armed men on the peaks of the hills. >> and he's carrying a white plastic bag. the contents unknown. then the unprecedented face to face meeting between u.s. special forces and the taliban fighters.
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handshakes. an american places his left arm across his chest, an afghan sign of respect. another quickly frisks bergdahl. the taliban narrators recounts a what he claims they said to each other. >> translator: they first asked us to told us to tell them the truth if he was not well. but we saw he was fine and told them that. >> the soldiers keeping his kbries locked on the taliban even as he walks backwards. bergdahl is stumbling. a nervous walk across rocky terrain. he is patted down once again, this time much for thoroughly. a precaution against a bomb or trap. the black hawk helicopter disappears into the sky. >> into the hills of the video are the unusual circumstances coming out. >> we're getting details on an
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investigation that the military did when he first disappeared and it corroborates some of the stories out there and knocks down others. it corroborates instant allegations from fellow soldiers that he had wandered out of that post more than once before. it knocks down another story that he left a note talking about leaving. as you referenced earlier on, painting something of a conflicting picture of him. his commanding officer said he was a good soldier, but his fellow soldiers said he had talked many times about leaving, perhaps walking across the mountains. he was planning to leave. >> and there's also word the defense secretary hagel called bergdahl's family today. do we know details of that.
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>> we do. i think we know this is a gesture to the family. he reaches out to the family and the message to them was adord according to a senior administration official, hour focus is on bergdahl's well being and health and reintegration. we're told the secretary encouraged the family to do the same and reassured them that they would continue and he would don't to have the support of the military as he recovers from five years in captivity. so i think a gesture of reachurns to a family that's -- it's already gone through a lot over the next five years, but going through a lot more in the last several days. >> between the video details about the time in captivity. certainly a lot of talk about. we a former navy s.e.a.l. commander. and invest dwative reporter
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taken in afghanistan. he escaped after seven months in captivity. he was rescued four days later, but his times colleague and a british soldier were killed during the police station. steven, let me start with you. when you take a look at this video, it's a very different situation than you actually rescued in a fire fight. what do you see from this video? >> it's clear to me and everyone that the taliban know what they're doing certainly with cameras. they bundled us into a car and took us around the villages showing us vehicles they said they'd blown up, driving us close to u.s. military bases saying this is the area we control. you didn't know if it was true. propaganda is what they do. >> it's also fascinating for a group which, when they were in power, said you shouldn't photograph them, images
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shouldn't be taken of people, the fact that they have such an online presence, it's kind of a big change for them. >> an event like this happens and you see the spin coming in from all sides. they know what their intended audience is looking for and they know the signals to put in. they always try to portray the americans as cowards or insulting. clearly the image here of the man standing over bergdahl in the car, that tallies with everything we've seen before. >> david, it's easy in all the drama around this and the questions about how he disappeared, whether he was ady certificate error not. just to lose sight of what this young man much gone through over the last five years. you've been quick to point out you were taken for seven months, which to me sounds like a lifetime as well. but it's important that people not lose sight of the reality of what his life has been for five
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years, no matter what the circumstances he left. can you describe a little bit about just the -- the impact of being held? >> it's -- it's -- as the time goes by, you feel more and more isolated. you're going things they tell you to do. there's these videotapes he made in dap activity. people have criticized that. there's this question about the tape that comes out that apparently there's concern about his health. i made a video tape where i went under orders. >> they told you -- >> they made me weep. i was play acting, but i was concerned they were going to kill the two afghans abducted with me. i came home, and my family said, you looked broken in that video. we were all so up et. i said, are you kidding me? i was doing what i was told to try to keep all three of us alive. >> and for you, your captivity was a number of days, but just
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psychologically, what is that like? >> doesn't compare to years. but the one thing you do notice, they moved me around a lot. they moved us around a lot. four or five times in a day we'd be moved from house to houston. but others would come and go. as you try if build up a relationship, somebody else would walk in the room and completely change that dynamic and it would start all over again. that was exhausting over four days. i can't imagine what it was like after years. >> dan, for you in baghdad, you over saw and dealt with a lot of hostage situations. what have you learned about that process that shanpes the way yo look at the situation? >> as david just eluded to and steve about the propaganda value. in every instance, take for example roy helms, the videotapes he made, he was
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beaten beforehand, they roughed up his hair and they told him to cry. they said, we want you to cry on camera. so that's part of the message. we would be looking at these trying to ascertain health situations. they go out of their way to make the situation look dire so that they raise the stakes of the game. >> you know, i think it's also -- i mean, i just want to repeat what you said about roy held in a hole in the ground for more than 300 days. i remember hearing that at the time. that is -- i just cannot imagine surviving something like that, the impact of that, being in a hole in the ground for that long. >> well, i went out within about four hours, five hours of the rescue, i went out with the fbi team that tried to collect information. i was literally in the hole in the ground. it was basically an underground
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cellar. at one point, there was nine hostages held inside this space with roy. when we debriefed an iraqi held with roy, probably about 10, 20 years old. this kid weighed about 80 pounds and he could not walk without the help, much like bergdahl was having trouble walking. so that's pretty common for these guys and the fact thatburg call was blinking. he had probably not been out in the sun his entire captivity. this will explain a lot of the condition that he had that obviously stooe and certainly david could elude to. >> it's just incredible. david, i appreciate you being with us. and steven thanks for talking to us. i want to turn now to another video that's being used
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as propaganda. the five guantanamo detainees arriving. that said, serious questions remain where these five men are concerned. joining us tonight, cnn international correspondent ivan watson. so little is known about how they're going to live there. what have you learned? >> we're still trying to piece that to together. it's clear that they're not going to be detained. they're going to be free citizens, able to live in this city, the capitol here, presumably they would be on some kind of compound. reportedly, their families will be able to join them. they will not be able -- allowed to leave the country for a period of at least a year, anderson. that seems to be one restriction on them. and then a question for after that is where would they go. they don't seem to have passports right now. so would qatar give them
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passports, we don't think so based on its past history are other immigrants here. the afghan government are not big fans of these former high-ranking officials in the former taliban regime. pakistan maybe is a possibility, but it's fighting its own taliban insurgency. so it's a question of where these guys could go after their year here is up. for now, the question, just where they going to live, are they going to be able to get jobs, will they will funded, supplied by the taliban. >> it is pretty much a police state there. do we know -- will their movement will limited? are they free to go to the mall and hang out? >> you know, from the indications we've gotten, they are not going to be terribly restricted. i would be surprised and i'm speculating a bit here, if they're allowed to start giving press conferences. based on what i've been told from people who know this
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country well, qatar has accepted other people like this. they're under close scrutiny when they come over to here by the officials. by the qatar state. i doubt they would be able to start giving press conferences left and right, but we're told they will be free citizens. that seems to have been part of the deal. they're just restricted. they can't leave for at least a year. >> thanks very much. quick reminder, make sure to set your dvr soy can watch 360 whenever you like like. up next, other troops lost their lives because of him. also tonight, other americans being held captive tonight. we're going to tell their stories just ahead. get in betwen my dentures and my gum and it was uncomfortable. even well-fitting dentures let in food particles. super poligrip is zinc free.
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some among the ranks in his unit do not consider him that, they consider him a deserter. some going so far as to say his appearance cost american lives. >> some of those who served alongside bowe bergdahl tell cnn they want him brought to justice, calling him a deserter, and claiming his disappearance led to the deaths of his fellow soldiers. >> it ripped through the area and those effects harmed people. >> soldiers say when bergdahl a disappeared, their primary mission immediately changed. they were ordered to find him. >> we were going to certain villages based on certain intelligence we received. to talk to the locals to see if they knew anything and do a presence patrol. >> over the next three months, at least six soldiers were killed in that same province. whether bergdahl had anything to
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do with that is murky. these military releases on the soldiers' deaths have few details. matthew farwell believes there's no way to link those deaths directly. >> they died because they were out there doing their jobs as soldiers, right? which is running patrols, looking for the enemy, doing movements to contact and doing their jobs as soldiers. >> former military officials tell cnn there were number rous operations going on in that province, not all related to the search for bergdahl. the taliban was gaining strength there. attacks were on the rise according to the confidential military logs released to wiki leaks. they realized the situation in afghanistan was worst than first thought. >> it's a very dangerous area and any time you flood the zone
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with a bunch of is soldiers, that's going to wind up getting people killed. >> if the casualties can't be directly traced to the search, the soldiers say it diverted resources and create add more dangerous environment. ultimately, the military will decide whether bergdahl should be prosecuted for those deaths. >> the government would have to prove the intent that he was not going to return. when he left, he had no intention of returning back to that post. any service members who died were dying trying to rescue sergeant bergdahl. >> pamela brown, cnn washington. >> i want to get additional perspective now from someone with ex-tentive experience on the ground. dan, those saying bergdahl is responsible for the deaths that may have happened because of the search for him, do you think that's fair criticism? >> well, you know, indirectly, these soldiers would not have
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been out on search mission for bergdahl that died. there's up to six soldiers from his battalion that were specifically going on mission for him. indirectly, yeah, you have to hold bergdahl and his actions responsible for wounds and ultimately killed in action for troops from that battalion. >> some are claiming he is responsible for every death in the province in the months after he disappeared. do you think that's fair or is that a stretch in. >> no, that is a stretch. listen, regional command east is one of the most dangerous regions. my last months as an advisor was in rc east. that is a place where every patrol is frougt with danger. it was the most hot environment. and so you can't blame every
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death on bergdahl that happened over that time frame. but without question, i'm getting comments from a lot of my peers that talk about guys in their units that went on specific mission to look for bergdahl and guys were wounded and shot. there's a lot of resentment, especially from the members of his unit. >> will that factor, you think, into whatever course the military decides to take regarding bergdahl in terms of how he leaves the army? >> no, the bottom line is bergdahl is going to be held accountable for what he did that night. did he abandon his post. did he desert or did he collaborate with the enemy. those need to be addressed. everything else, that's military. that's what we all sign up for. you have to accept that. those should not come into play in terms of charges against bergdahl. the public perception is
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reality. he's already been convicted in a large swath of the military population and a lot of americans today. but the reality is he will be examined upon his conduct and his conduct alone. and then you decide if you're going to put him up on ucmj and potentially court martial bergdahl. >> a lot of people want to hear about the circumstances leading up to his disappearance. thanks for being on again. for more on the story, you can go to cnn.com. up next tonight, what the bergdahl case means for other americans. i'll speak with the daughter of a man kidnapped in pakistan. that's warren there in 2011 still being held. also ahead, bowe bergdahl's child shood. what we know about how he grew up in idaho.
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the families of other americans being held captive in the middle east have been watching the fall out from the bergdahl case probably with more interest than anyone. they want for their loves ones to be able to come home. in a moment, i'll speak with the daughter of one american held captive since 2011. >> it was sent to his family and
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appears to have been recorded in november 2010, by then, american bob levinson had been held for three and a half years. >> i am running very quickly out of diabetes medicine. 33 years of service to the united states deserves something. please help me. >> he is a retired fbi agent last seen off iran's kish island. his family says he was working as a private investigator, but later revealed he was working for the cia. they are desperate to find him. >> we love you and we miss you and we're doing everything we can to get you back. >> iran's president told larry king that iran has no idea what happened to him. >> you have no idea where he is? >> no. >> in april 2011, his family
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received these photos. it's believed to be the last they've heard of him. a thick beard, chains on his wrists, the message is clear. he needs help. he marked a terrible anniversary in november 2013 becoming the longest held american in history. >> katelyn and her husband joshua boyle disappeared nearly a year and a half ago while traveling in the mountains of afghanistan. the ap says she's american and was pregnant at the time. he's canadian. u.s. law enforcement believe the videos released are authentic, but it's unclear when they were made. >> coleman refers to her child in one video but a child is not shown on screen. their family say they are innocent tourists. the motive for their abduction
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remains unclear. neither family has received ran some demands. >> i was working in pakistan when i was captured. >> aid worker warren wine steen was kidnapped at gunpoint from his home in pakistan in 2011. >> i appeal to the united states and american government to intervene on my behalf. >> a year later, another proof of life video. >> i'm not in good health. i have a heart condition. >> al qaeda leader released a recording claiming the terror group is holding him and demanding among other things, an end to air strikes by the u.s. he gave thanks to god for the capture of an american jew. the state department has said they continue to work with the pakistanis who are cooperating, but still no sign of warren.
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cnn, new york. >> warren's daughter is campaigning for the release of her father. she joins me now. when you first heart about bergdahl's release, what went through your mind? >> of course, i was thrilled for the bergdahl family. we all were. we dream of that same news coming to us. but the -- you know, the next thought in my mind was, what does this mean for us and my father. and some real disappointment that my dad wasn't included in the exchange. >> you also, i know, are concerned about the negative response that bergdahl's release has gotten. can you explain that? >> we started to realize that the administration is going to be a lot less likely to do this again if it causes some political problems for them. so does that mean that the door is closed for us for that kind of thing happens to bring my father home. it's really something that scares us a lot.
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>> when the state department was asked this week about other americans being held hostage, they noted that bergdahl was a part of the mill stair that made it a unique circumstance. that's got to be painful to hear. >> it's incredibly painful to hear. we were reading and following the media, ochk, as i said earlier, we were wondering what this would mean for us. and to read things like that that one hostage is more worthy of freedom than another or deserves to be brought home more than another hostage is just insulting. it's -- you know, it's true that bergdahl is a soldier and deserves the respect of anyone that serves in the thil tear, but my father is just as deserving of freedom as are all of the americans being held abroad. you cannot distinguish between those hostages. it's just -- you know, it isn't
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something that the families of those people want to hear. >> according to the administration, part of the reason they arranged for bergdahl's release was because of health concerns. you also have very serious concerns about your dad's health. >> absolutely. i mean, my father is 73 years old. well, he'll be 73 years old in july. and he has a heart condition. he has severe asthma. you know, when the video came out of my father in december, it was clear from that video that he is not in good physical condition. he was incredibly pale. he was gaunt. his voice was weak. and you know, it's -- if health concerns are the thing that the administration is saying was the reason they brought out sergeant bergdahl, my father certainly is not in good health and that is something that is very clear and visible. >> what is your message to the u.s. government, to the administration regarding what
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they are or aren't doing right now to bring your dad home? is there something you want them to know? >> yeah, i want the administration to tell us what they're doing to bring my father home, to bring home the other american hostages. they've shown with this exchange that they can -- they can get this done. if they want to, they can do this. so i know that they can do it for us and do it for others as well and to me, they can't just pick and choose. they can't decide that it works to get one person out and then leave everybody else there. ambassador rice said that the american people would never have forgiven the administration if they had left sergeant bergdahl in pakistan where he was being held. and i don't think the american people would forgive them if they left anyone there. i don't think it's just about sergeant bergdahl. it's everyone. they need to bring these people home. >> and you're hopeing to get people to bear yellow ribbons or
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tie them up around their communities to keep people remembered. >> yeah, exactly and i have one on myself. we're asking to people to tie a ribbon to a lamp post, a tree, put one on your wrist. tweet to the administration, to president obama, let them know that we are thinking of these other hostages, that there are still people out there who deserve to come home. >> i know it's not easy to talk about, and i appreciate you coming on. and i hope this helps. >> thank you so much. just ahead, what shaped bowe bergdahl, the soldier. plus, when president obama hit the hotel gym in poland, a video camera was lurking. was it a security breach or just a lapse in et kit by the person who shot the video? more ahead. hey you know what man, these guys aint no dragons. they're cool. these deals are legit. yeah, we're cool. she's cool. we're cool.
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the u.s. military hasn't said one way or the other if they think bowe bergdahl is a deserter. he wrote to his parents about his dissolution with the military. bergdahl is the only one they can say. the past, his upbringings, the obvious place to look for includes. his childhood was certainly not conventional and his pact to the military was not direct. here's what we've found. >> to try to better understand bow berg ball, you have to start here, the rugged terrain of of the idaho back country.
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his father explains it best in a recent interview before his son was released. >> this is an aspen for us. so bowe played through here when he was growing up as a kid. he and his friends were all over these trees. it's nice to come up here and recommend innocence. i wake up each morning and my first thought is my son is still a prisoner of war in afghanistan. and i need to do something about that. >> born march 28th, 1986 in a small town here, friends say bergdahl grew up loving the outdoors. he live add simple, some might even say unconventional life. people close to the family say they had a lot of books and that bergdahl loved to read.
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>> i guess you could call him a seeker. he loved meeting people that were doing the same things. he'd go on fishing boats in alaska. he metd people in california and joined them on their sailboat. he rode his bicycle from california to here and back. >> you see him here in the green jacket. he spent three months on that boat with his hometown buddy. >> he was a good kid. strong as an ox. >> he was even interested in jo joining the french foreign le john. according to a report, he talked to a missionary friend about going to africa. bergdahl also took interest in learning ballet. sherry horton was his teacher. >> bowe was really good. he really wanted to learn about
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new and different things. like ballet, he went from martial arts and sward fighting and bali. >> he decided to enlist in the army. he was sold on the idea of going to afghanistan to help the locals rebuild their lives and communities. but later, bob bergdahl would tell the magazine, we were given a fictitious picture of what we were doing in afghanistan. it was a belief that bergdahl appeared to hold too. as reports suggest, he literally walked away from the army in a remote region of afghanistan. >> george joins us now from idaho. the down, they're cancelling his welcome home out of safety concerns? >> it's really a matter of public safety for the city officials. they're worried that they're not
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ready to handle the number of people that could converge on this town. they canceled it as a matter of public safety. still, when you talk to people here, the support is strong. you do get a sense that they are stay out of the politic sfwls appreciate it. up next, when investigators are learning about the two 12-year-old girls accused of trying to kill their 12-year-old friend. also tonight, what the secret service is telling about the video shot of president obama in a hotel gym. on my count. the one where you step up and save the day? make it happen. (crowd) oh no... introducing verizon xlte. hey guys, i got it right here! we've doubled our 4g lte bandwidth in cities coast to coast. so take on more. with xlte. for best results, use verizon.
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crime and punishment tonight, police in wisconsin say the 12-year-old girl stabbed 19 times and left for dead in the woods is crecovering. as we reported, all three girls are friends and go to the same school. they had a sleepover the night before the attack. they tried to impress the fictional character on the website. they have been charged as adults with this attempted murder. are their lawyers going to try to move it to juvenile court. >> it is most likely they will eventually try to do that. before that happens, we suspect there will be a competency
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hearing or they will try to test their psychological sensibility. it's man toir because they are 12 that there will be a hearing, but it's a very high bar they have because of the nature of this crime. and the state doesn't want to send the message that other kids that this sort of thing is it okay. >> the statement released today, what did that say? >> a man out of florida, it's just a photograph online that has taken off. it's turned into all sorts of strryes. he released a statement saying he's deeply saddened by the tragedy in wisconsin and his heart goes out to the families. he also says he's not talking to the media at this time. >> you also spoke, i understand, with the school superintendent. what did they say about the three girls? >> nothing in that he knew of at
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that time. nothing in their record or past indicated that they would be capable of something like that. that said, he also said that parents of some students have kept their students away from school. other students in class have asked for counselling at the school because they are concerned. they are concerned about other students that may be involved with this. parents want to know that everything is cool and copacetic at their school before they let them go back and before things in this suburban town can get back to normal. >> are police still sticking to the idea that the two girls attempted to kill their friend to impress this fictional character? >> this is everything they have said this in the complaint. it reads like two pre-teens have a tiff online. one of them saying to the officer, is it wrong that i don't feel bad right now. just shocking stuff in there.
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>> all right. thanks very much. let's get caught up on other stories we're following. >> we start with breaking news. a military jump jet has crashed in california. that's about an hour and a half east of san diego. no word yet on civilian injuries. the pilot ejected safely. the last of the original navajo code talkers has died. he was one of 29 recruited by the u.s. marine corps during world war ii. he was 93. australian authorities are accepting bids from private contractors now interested in running the next phase in the search or malaysia airlines fright 370. they'll have 300 days to search 25,000 square miles.
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tonight, another reminder that you give up a lot of privacy when you're president of the united states. check out the video of president obama working out at a hotel gym in poland. it does seem like a huge invasion of privacy. the secret service says it wasn't a security breach. he's in poland marking the 25th anniversary of the solidarity movement. this video, i just feel bad for the president of the united states that he's being videotaped in this tiny hotel gym working out and nobody seems to stop it. how -- do we know the circumstances -- who took this
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video? >> yeah, i know. i think a lot of people felt that way. one guy commented saying, i've been in hotel gyms before where security cleared the place out. it begs the question who would do such a thing. maybe we should call this gym-gate or something. the white house still will not comment about it. the hotel said they will not speak of it. at this point, it doesn't look like anything sinister. just a polish guy in the gym in a nice hotel where the p president was staying there. it stuns a lot of people to see this video of the president of the united states in obviously private moments. you see him starting out his 30-minute workout with a big yawn. doing some huffing and puffing. it's making its way around the internet set to a cheesy sound track no less. >> it gives you a sense of how he's in a complete bubble and
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watched at all times. i'm surprised that he didn't realize he was being videotaped and that there wasn't some secret service agent there who was aware he was being videotaped. do they allow people in this situation to just videotape the president work out? i've never seen this kind of video before. >> right. i know we've never seen anything like this. this is not the kind of leak we expect to see on a trip like this. doesn't look like the nsa has anything to do with it. how is this even allowed to happen? the secret service is commenting on it. they say they don't clear out the gym. the president does sometimes workout in a hotel gym. he likes to get that workout in. and they don't make people leave or put away their cameras. one secret service agent said that it was apparent that people were taking pictures. so i guess they don't mind. >> no doubt, i was on david letterman earlier, has a bunch of jokes about it tonight.
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makes me feel bad for the president to be constantly under the microscope. i've had people videotape me at the gym. i asked them, look i'll take it with you. i just feel bad for the guy. that's it for us. thanks for watching. cnn tonight starts now. this is cnn tonight. every picture tells us a story. what story do these pictures tell? a hag gared man surrounded by armed taliban fighters. the man is led to the chopper, given a quick patdown and whisked away. today, the tale of the tape and what it tells us about sergeant bowe bergdahl. was he near death? did his disappearance cost american lives? our team of experts separates fact from fiction. plus, if you were riding the ll
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