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the markets today. take a look. you see the dow jones right now, it's down almost eight points, 16,935. yesterday ninth record close of the year. that's it for me. thanks very much for watching. i'll be back 5:00 p.m. eastern in "the situation room." newsroom with pamela brown newsroom with pamela brown starts right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com hello, i'm pamela brown. we come to you this hour with breaking news. a deadly shooting in a high school in suburban portland, oregon. there is at least one victim, a student killed by a gunman. the lone shooter is also dead, we're told by authorities. although we don't know how he died. >> a gunman entered the high school this morning, shot one student, unfortunately that student has died. the gunman was located and the gunman is also deceased. >> this is a very tragic day.
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one that i had hoped would never, ever be part of my experien experience. and as we are able to get more information, the district will provide that to the public. we feel very sorry for our parents, our kids. they were absolutely wonderful today exiting the building. >> still very active scene there. it's still unclear whether any other students were hurt. here's what we do know. 8:07 pacific time, shots were fired at reynolds high school in troutdale, about 12 miles east of portland. the shooting happened as classes began for the day. police and tactical teams evacuated students from the school, as you see right here in this video. they were led off campus in droves with hands over their heads. surrounding the school, a huge police presence, armored vehicles, s.w.a.t. teams and dozens of officers from multiple
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agencies, from several different cities in that area. also, outside the school, parents waiting apgsly to hear that their kids are safe. relief as the buses pull up. reuniting parents and students. and one extraordinary moment caught live on tv with one of our affiliates. take a look here. >> we're sure he's okay. but, you know, until you hear that -- until you hear the vital word, you always have the thought. we're just waiting. hello? good. that's what we were waiting for. that's okay. yeah. yeah, i know. that's what they were saying. i am glad to hear from you. all right. are you almost ready to get on the bus to come down here? or what's the deal? >> i can breathe. >> that says it all, just the
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emotion those parents are feeling when they heard their child's voice. adam perez joins me now to talk about this. evan, we're still waiting for a lot of details. they haven't cleared the building yet, we're told. do we have any update on possible injuries? and whether this student that was killed, whether that student was targeted by the gunman? >> well, pamela, this is a very scanty detailed situation at this point. the police are still trying to work through the scene, going classroom by classroom, room by room, to try to clear the building to make sure there's no further danger, or no further injured students perhaps that have been hiding in place. we do know that they believe the shooter is dead. and they don't know whether he took his own life or whether there was a first responder who was able to kill him. but we do know that the shooter first killed a student. and based on the fact that they believe he had a semiautomatic weapon, we know that he could have done a lot more damage than
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what he did. so at this point, it appears, the indications are that he was probably targeting this person. again, this is something that the police are going to have to give us more information about, when they have their press conference in the next hour, pamela. >> as we await the details, evan, i know you've covered a lot of these types of shootings. if you would, walk us through how the investigation will unfold from here. what authorities will be doing to try to figure out the motive, why this gunman did this. >> sad to say, there's been dozens in the last few months. so these scenes where the police come in and they try to figure out whether or not the shooter had any motivation perhaps that they've expressed to other friends and family members, they'll go through their computer, they'll do a search warrant, i'm sure at this moment the police are doing search warrants to try to recover any social media, any things on computers, anything written that the shooter might have left behind.
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now, they obviously know who it is. they haven't released that information yet. we don't even know whether this is a student or not. but again, that's where they're going. the atf is on the scene, the fbi is on the scene. as you well know, pamela, they have done too many of these scenes in the last few years. they can lend assistance. the atf will help trace the firearm to see where it came from. the fbi is going to help bring the behavioral specialist to determine whether or not there was anything that might have been missed here, that could maybe tell us for the next time this happens, pamela. >> certainly all hands on deck from law enforcement there in troutdale, oregon. thank you so much, evan. we'll talk to you again soon. we want to go straight to john ma reno, a student there, he's here to tell us what it was like, the chaos as the scene unfolded when that gunman opened fire this morning. describe the scene for me, please, if you could. >> it was scary. it was like -- it was like -- it
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was shocking, i would say. >> if you would, john, paint a picture for me. walk us through what happened, what you heard, what you saw, what was going on around you. >> okay. just imagine walking through a big hall. and imagine hearing the bell that says we're on lockdown, everybody get in your classrooms. you never really expected -- we never really have those. after that bell rung, like you could see everybody -- all the kids running through the hallways, teachers yelling, get in your class, get in your class. it's like, what's going on. because they don't give you further information until further notice. >> at that point, john, what was going through your mind? >> well, at first i thought it was a tardy sweep. but then i realized that it's not. because it was more serious than
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what it had to be. i don't know. i was just kind of out of it. it was crazy. >> you know, a lot of schools have drills to prepare for these types of situations. is this something that you all have trained for to deal with an active shooter situation? >> we've never actually been trained to go through a situation where a shooter can come into your school and actually, like, shoot up the school. >> john, you know, myself included, a lot of people are going to social media to see what was unfolding. how did that play a role for you? i know a lot of students were on social media tweeting about what was unfolding. >> well, that was pretty much the way everybody found out about what was going on through twitter. everybody at school saw was going on. everybody from other schools saw what was going on. that's how we were informed. >> john, earlier on the show, we showed a phone call where one of
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the students called his parents, and obviously there was a great sense of relief from the parents, understandably. how about you, have you talked to your family yet? if so, what was their reaction when they heard your voice? >> i didn't get to speak to them until i got to the fred meyer store. when they saw me, they were really happy, actually. >> i can imagine. that's an understatement. john, thank you very much for talking with us. we appreciate it. and just hope that you and the rest of the students there and staff at the school will be able to recover from this horrific incident there. just one day left in the school year. now i want to go to andrew, former sergeant with the los angeles police s.w.a.t. team to walk us through what happens, when officers arrive at a scene like this. nice to have you here with us, andrew. as we've seen in the video, there's a lot of different agencies that sort of converged at the school. we've seen dogs there on the scene. can you just walk us through what's going on right now in the investigation, most likely?
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>> sure. as best i can. obviously my agency operates differently than other agencies throughout the united states. not to say one is right and one is wrong. but since the increase in school shootings has occurred, most police agencies have developed what we call a rapid deployment situation. and it used to be that the s.w.a.t. teams, or special operations units would respond, and they would deploy rapidly without even forming a game plan. immediately upon arrival, the first arriving s.w.a.t. team officer or two that enter the structure on the school, try to handle the situation. however, we found that oftentimes the first people on scene in law enforcement capacity are police officers, patrol officers, traffic officers who now need to assume that responsibility. we're well past the days when we could afford to sit around and form a game plan, and then
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deploy on the school. and so now patrol officers often find themselves in the situation of having to immediately deploy upon their arrival at the scene of the shooting. and hopefully engage the shooter and neutralize him or her. >> let's talk about that. go ahead. >> i was going to say, i'm not sure if that's what took place in this situation or not. >> well, we have learned from authorities there, andrew, that the shooter was neutralized. we don't know whether the shooter committed suicide or if authorities were the ones to shoot him. we're still waiting for the details to come out in a press conference soon. but tell us, once you determine a shooter is in fact neutralized, where does the investigation go from there? >> once the encounter is made with the shooter, then, of course, deadly force is going to be used to cease his behavior. and hopefully put him down and
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render him helpless, or her. most of these, not all of these shooters are males. then the officers will close on the shooter, quickly take control of them, put them in handcuffs. and then at that point, it may be still an active shooting site where if there's more than one shooter, other officers are going to have to continue to search the school structures, go throughout the classrooms, administrative facilities. and render the school safe. and make sure that there's not an additional shooter, or shooters. >> i'm curious to know what your thoughts are on this. if you look at the shootings, not just school shootings, but across the board in the past few years, it seems like in most of these shootings, it's a single male, a male acting alone. what are your thoughts on that? from your experience, is there a
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common thread that you see with these shooters? >> well, most of these shooters, if not all of them, i would just say it's safe to say all of them have mental issues. we engage the services of forensic psychologists. i think probably most law enforcement agencies do. we have full-time staff of forensic psychologists here in los angeles who will respond to scenes where the suspects are to assist in analyzing what their intentions might be. particularly if there's negotiations under way. but the human mind is very fragile. each one of these people have their own individual issues. and it's almost impossible to know ahead of time what their behavior's going to be, short of having an armed encampment surrounding the school with law enforcement personnel, to prevent these issues, which is not going to happen. we're simply at the mercy of all the mental health communities to assist and identify those
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individuals who may present a risk somewhere down the line. and hopefully treat them. but short of that, it's a very challenging situation to try to prevent these situations from happening. >> yeah, really, a sad reality re live in. andrew, thank you very much. we're going to have much more on this breaking news coming up as we await a news conference. but first, just ahead, they thought the government was out to get them and use their anger against innocent people, including police officers. we're now hearing from the woman who let this couple stay with her and she's revealing what she saw before their shooting rampage. that, and more, when we return. okay, movie night.everyone wins. how do i win? because we're streaming the movie that you love. well, how do i win? because we ordered that weird thing that you love from the pizza place. how do you win, dad? because i used the citi thankyou card and got two times the points on alllllll of this. well, and spending time with you guys of course. that was a better answer.
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enemy. then a las vegas couple turned their extremist views into violence. jared and amanda miller carried out a horrific ambush taking the lives of two police officers at a pizzeria, and a bystander at walmart. today we're learning the warping signs were there. the couple had been staying with kelly fielder, who called the millers her friends. fielder talked to cnn's kim law. >> did you see anything, like a yellow flag or swastikas or anything like that? >> he's got the "no tread on me" flags. and swastika pins. he said, his exact words, he claims he's going to put a swastika on him. i didn't know about the no tread on me. i didn't know about that until later. i can't even sleep in my own home.
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nightmares? i've got five deaths on my shoulders. i should have called the cops. two cops got families that are dead. my best friend is dead. all because of the fact that he was the one. i didn't realize he was going to be that serious. didn't realize it. and i am so, so, so, so sorry. >> among the clues, a don't tread on me flag and swastikas. amanda best's friend in indiana is shocked by the killing spree. >> the only thing i can think of is she kept saying that something about the government, like watching their every move. i was a little skeptical of jared when i first met him.
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but i was there for her because i knew she loved him. i tried to see through everything. >> friends of the fallen officers held a vigil monday night, and we're hearing from jared miller's mother today, we wish to express our greatest sympathies. thoughts and prayers to those who lost loved ones. we're confused and shocked over the senseless actions of our son and his wife. let me bring in now stephanie elam to discuss this. stephanie, you talked to the family of one of the victims. what did they tell you? >> right. pamela, i also spoke to the man that was actually with joseph wilcox, the man who was inside that walmart, and instead of running out the store, ran to try to intervene to stop these two killers. what i learned was that these two men had been longtime friends, that they wanted to return something and then they were going to go out and do some
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swimming. it was supposed to be a nice sunday afternoon. instead they saw these two people come in with sort of fatigue type gear. at that point they said everything, or talking to jeremy they said everything started to happen very fast. take a listen to what he had to say. >> i turned back around to grab -- you know, to see what joe's attitude is. he started to head towards the store. reaching for his gun. because he does carry a concealed weapon. he has a conceal to carry. he carries a gun. and joseph had the option to go left and exit the store, to safety, but he instead, he went into the store and chased after the gunman. >> reporter: now, the problem was, that allegedly what we are now learning is that joseph did not realize that amanda miller was also with jared. so she is the one that shot and killed him. at this point, jeremy runs out of the store. he's waiting for his friend to emerge, even calling 911 to let
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them know there's a civilian in there with a gun trying to help. it was hours before he found out what happened to his friend. we also had the chance to speak to joseph wilcox's younger sister, and she was telling us a bit about the kind of man her brother was. she said he always put family first and he was an adventurous type, and the reason he believed in carrying a gun is for reasons just like he encountered on sunday morning. listen to what she said. >> my brother's gone and he's not coming back. i keep waiting for him to walk through the door and say he's tired and exhausted from everyone questioning him. it's not going to happen. i go into his room and he's just not there. it hurts. >> reporter: the emotion there, just extremely raw. this family is still grappling with it. they do believe their loved one is a hero and that's how they're remembering him, pamela. >> certainly had so much courage to do that. so hard to hear her speak about her brother.
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stephanie elam, thank you for bringing that to us. the crime scene and their apartment showed scary revelations from the pair of las vegas shooters. police say the violent young married couple held anti-government hatred. they were asked to leave a ranch belonging to clive bundy, while he was in a standoff with federal authorities over land use. jared miller talked about law enforcement while he was there. take a listen. >> i feel sorry for any federal agents that want to come in here and try to push us around, or anything like that. i really don't want violence toward them. but if they're going to bring violence to us, if that's the language they want to speak, we'll learn it. >> so, does this confirm domestic extremists on the fringes, remaining a threat in america? a law center said there are more than 1,000 such groups in america. let me bring in cnn political analyst and editor in chief of "the daily beast," john, great to have you here. i've been reading your article. you make some pretty bold claims in this article. i want to read one paragraph
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here. you say, these are the wages of hate. two dead police officers and one innocent civilian, all with young children, sacrificed to fulfill a twisted vision sold by online snake oil salesmen and professional polarizers. who's to blame here, john? >> the deal is that this is not happening in a vacuum. this online radicalization of the millers occurred over time. and going through their facebook posts as i did to research that column, it's very clear that they internalized the rhetoric of hate and polarization, of buying into the narrative that america was facing a choice between freedom and tyranny, identifying a federal government with fascists, and nazis, which is why they placed the swastikas presumably on the bodies of the two officers. this is a political act driven by instability on the part of the two folks. when we have these sorts of overheated debates in our culture, eventually it can attach itself to an unhinged
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individual and result in a real tragedy. >> the article that you wrote, john, you placed the blame squarely on right-wing radio, op the nra leaders as well. tell us, how so? >> well, what i do is look at who this fellow was parroting. he had liked organizations like the nra. i don't believe the nra is culpable for this. we can have a larger conversation about gun culture. he identified himself as a strong ron paul supporter. this has nothing to do with ron paul. but the rhetoric he is parroting echoes what we hear on far right-wing talk radio, like a flag operation. it's idiocy. the rhetoric of these folks who traffic in anger to get the listeners to listen to their message, they latched on to it and ultimately acted on it. when people use a language like,
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oh, 1776, the message there is one of revolution. that is explicitly one these folks tried to act on. this is very much a case of the echo chamber taken to heart and these acts did not happen in a vacuum. >> you've got to look at personal responsibility here. because that rhetoric isn't going away. look at the historical context here, the 1960s and 1970s, the threats came from the revolutionary left as you alluded to. how are today's extremist groups different, do you think? >> well, you make a really important point. in the early '60s and 70s, the anti-government violence was primarily on the left, with the black panthers. in the recent decades we see it more on the right, that ultimately really were expressed in the oklahoma city bombing. a falloff until the obama years, when we've seen an explosive growth of the militia groups.
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we've seen isolated incidents before. some explicitly reflecting this right-wing politics. this definitely falls under this camp. this is not simply an issue of mental illness and access to guns. it's the kind of hyper partisan agitated talk that resonates that serves as a dark inspiration for this couple. >> bottom line, regardless of all of this, john, you can't explain crazy. when people do things like this, you want to apply reason to it, but often there's no reasonable explanation for a crazy act like this. john avalon, thank you so much. >> here's the point. words matter. ideas matter. and when people act on ideas they've incubated, there's a connection and it needs to be analyzed, discussed openly and directly. >> all right. it is discussed in your article on dailybeast.com.
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it's finally out that, of course, hillary clinton's latest book "hard choices." for many folks in new york, it didn't seem to be a tough decision to get in line for a chance to get a fresh copy and have it signed by the author herself. of course, the very fact that hillary clinton is the author will no doubt push book sales. but the media is playing a big part in both her book promotion and her potential campaign. >> we'll see. she's got a free ride so far from the media. the biggest ones promoting her campaign, so it better happen. >> there you heard it from chris cuomo. friend, also foe to the clintons. let's break this down with two media and political experts, gloria borger, and senior media correspondent brian stelter. brian, i'll start with you to talk about what we just heard from chris. it seems like he has a point here. this is free publicity. >> i think there's a tale of two
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medias here. he's absolutely right, that if you put the word clinton into a search of all the closed captioning transcripts, you'll see thousands and thousands and thousands of mentions of her, many in a positive light. on the other hand, she's getting tough questions on this book tour. there's incredible criticism of her not just from conservative media, but from the conservative media and the interviewers like diane sawyer posing questions to her. i think there's a lot of free publicity for her and her book. but she is facing some serious questioning. and she will continue to as this book tour goes on. >> let's talk about this, gloria borger. we were discussing this earlier today. republican strategist anna novarro called this 50 shades of boring. you compare the book to, say, robert gates' book, which has pretty big bombshells in it. this book is different. >> very different. >> to you, does it look like someone with skin in the game? >> it does.
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it looks like somebody who is being careful, who is being safe, who might just have a presidential run in front of her. and she gives out tantalizing tidbits about how the obama campaign and the clinton campaign had a lot of bad blood between them and how she had to have a sip of chardonnay with president-elect obama in order to get through the differences. but we're not quite sure what they all were. so unlike bob gates' book where he actually takes you inside the west wing, and says, this is what it was like when we had that fight over x, she said, i disagreed with the president. i was for arming the rebels in libya. but leaves it at that, right? so she kind of walks a fine line here because she is a soon-to-be, or at some point-to-be presidential candidate. >> time magazine michael sheerer
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just published a review of "hard choices," and he said it was like she walked up to the bar, handed her credit card to the bartender, and said, i'm not sure if i'm going to order a drink or not. the fact that she's at the bar speaks volumes. >> the only way it's different, and this is so interesting to me, both as a woman and somebody who covered her campaign in 2007-2008. not every day. but she's sort of a different person now in a funny way. and she's letting us know that, both in the book and in these interviews. she's sort of like, i'm done with caring what people think about the way i look. i'm older, i'm wiser, and i'm celebrating the fact that i'm a woman so now i can talk about sexism. whereas now in 2007-2008, that wasn't a part of her campaign. she was talking more about her experience and kind of not celebrating her femininity. this time she's saying, i'm a woman and i am different.
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so that's very interesting. >> i think a lot of people were struck by that, gloria. i want to actually take a listen to that moment where she addressed the issue of sexism with diane sawyer. let's listen in. >> when you're in the spotlight as a woman, you know you're being judged constantly. i mean, it is just never-ending. and you get a little worried about, okay, people over on this side are loving what i'm wearing, looking like -- other people on this side aren't. your natural tendency is how do you bring people together so you can better communicate. i'm done with that. i mean, i'm just done. >> to your point there, gloria, she's really -- seems very relaxed, trying to get in front of it. because gender, age, those are both factors that play into any potential presidential campaign. what do you think? how does she pivot? >> i think she's also inoculating herself to a certain
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degree. people will criticize what we as women wear. it happened to her. by the way, you look fabulous today, pam, i should tell you. >> thank you. so do you. >> people are going to criticize what we wear and what our hair looks like. she got it on the campaign trail. john edwards said, i'm not sure about that jacket you're wearing during a presidential debate. she's sort of inoculating herself against that and saying to people, okay, in advance, cut it out. >> right. >> gosh, it's hard to imagine that happening two years from now. i was shocked when we saw the abc primetime special last night. they played those clips of how hillary's wardrobe was, you know, a point of commentary in the debates. it was such a wild reminder, just a few years ago it was being talked about that way. >> but to those of us who were there, or watching it, or covering it, it was sort of, you know, it was actually shocking. what was more interesting to me was that at the time, and you're right, brian, at that time,
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hillary clinton just kind of laughed it off. now she would say something else, i think. >> yeah. >> and she might have a more cutting response to it. but back then, what she did, when barack obama said, you're likable enough, hillary, she kind of let it go. >> yeah. certainly a different hillary this time around it seems. gloria borger, brian stelter, thank you very much. hillary clinton will join us next week for a very important town hall meeting. live on tuesday, june 17th, at 5:00 p.m. eastern time. hopefully you'll tune in then. coming up, right here in newsroom, we'll have more on the breaking news this afternoon. new details on the shooting, the school shooting at a portland area high school. one student is dead and so is the shooter. right now we are expecting a police news conference at the top of the hour. of course, we'll bring that to you live as soon as it happens. stay with us.
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right now, at this hour, we're waiting on the pentagon briefing any moment now. we're expecting to hear from rear admiral john kirby. he's expected to answer questions on the so-called friendly fire situation in afghanistan that left five american soldiers dead. we understand that yesterday they were in a very violent part of afghanistan doing a security procedure ahead of the elections there. they called in for help. that triggered strikes. and we understand, according to an allied statement, that five service members were killed in friendly fire deaths. again, we're waiting to hear more from rear admiral john kirby. let's listen in. >> our thoughts and prayers go out to the families of the fallen. i can confirm five american troops were killed yesterday in an incident in southern
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afghanistan. i'm not going to get into too much detail about the qualifying who they were, the specifics of the mission. we do have reason to suspect that friendly fire was the cause here. specifically friendly fire from the air. but the issue's under investigation, and i really don't want to get too much more into detail in that until we've had a chance to -- i'll leave it right there, bob. we need to let the investigators do their work. a tragic incident all the way around. our thoughts and prayers go out to the families. i don't have any reports of other wounded. there's some reporting out there that suggests perhaps an afghan soldier was killed. i can't confirm that right now. obviously, we're -- >> there you heard it. rear admiral john kirby saying five u.s. service members killed yesterday in a violent province in afghanistan, due to friendly fire. we're waiting to learn more about this situation. of course, we'll bring that to
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a deadly shooting at a high school in burn portland, oregon. there is at least one victim, a student killed by a gunman there. the lone shooter is also dead. although we don't know how he died at this point. we're expecting a news conference in minutes from now. there was a massive police presence there. some parents were very, as you can imagine, panicked about the well-being of their children as this one mother describes. >> panic, flying down the street. i was shaking. just needed to get out here. >> describe the scene this morning as you have seen it all morning long. more parents starting to show up here. what has the mood been like for you and the other parents? >> just still a lot of panic and worry, people trying to get ahold of their kids. there's some aunties that brought their nieces and nephews to school so trying to get ahold
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of their parents. i was very surprised at all the different municipalities that came out. camas, and clark county, and clackamas county. i'm thankful for the large response. just because you never know if there is more than one shooter, or what's going on. >> this is really any parent's worst nightmare. another mother describing seeing the terror on the students' faces as she yelled for kids to get inside and take cover. >> i was dropping off my daughter, and she was headed toward the gymnasium. and the school staff said come in, come in. and they swept them into the front office. then the cops all showed up. suddenly there's like seven or eight police cars all around me. and they were wedging me in, telling me, get out, get out, there's a shooter. there's a rifleman, get out, get out. so i could not back out. i could not turn around. i ended up going up on the curb to back my car around as well as three other vehicles.
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so as the cars were starting to come in to drop their kids off, everybody was, where do i go? and there was even another little child, she was walking across the parking lot, and i said, get inside! go! there's a shooter! the look of terror on that young girl's face -- anyway, i left the scene finally. and i just fell apart. >> imagine the parents, students, staff at the school, still shaken up at this hour. the news conference begins minutes from now. coming up next, the white house didn't tell congress about the bowe bergdahl trade before it happened. but lawmakers did know about the bin laden raid. so what's the difference here? did the white house not think congress could keep a secret? we're going to explore that up next. hi, credit report site andour i have a problem. i need to speak with your fraud resolution department. ugh, we don't have that. what should i tell him? just make that super annoying modem noise... (shuuuuuuuh....zzzzzzzz...de ee...dong...shuuuhh...)
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but apparently it's easy to keep a secret from congress. that's according to one republican congressman. 80 to 90 obama administration officials knew about the plan to swap five taliban members who were being held at guantanamo bay for captured u.s. soldier bowe bergdahl. earlier today the white house says discretion was imperative. >> and the reason for that is simple. this is a secret military mission. in which disclosure of the mission could put into jeopardy, not just the life of sergeant bergdahl, but also the lives of the american service men who were involved in the mission. so discretion of a -- discretion on this matter was important. and that's why the number of people who were aware of this military operation in advance was even smaller. >> last night after members of the full house were briefed, many of them emerged more angry over the white house's secret
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deal. and it appears many americans also have doubts. according to a cbs news poll, 66% of americans say the price was too high. and in that same poll, nearly three in four americans say president obama should have notified congress before the deal was made. joining me now to discuss this, dana bash, chief congressional correspondent. great to have you here with us. >> thank you. >> one of the most sensitive operations ever undertaken, we're talking about taking down osama bin laden, congress was told about it. in secret. in the leadup. so what's the difference now? has congress become less trustworthy? >> well, if you ask house speaker john boehner, who revealed today that he knew about the possibility of the bin laden raid six months beforehand, there's not much of a difference, in that the bottom line is, congress, if it's top-secret, can keep a secret. the white house argues that they gave the congress similar
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heads-up about these raids in general. on the one hand, yes, they gave congress information about what was going to go on with bin laden, but didn't tell them, you know, in the days before that it was going to happen right away. same thing with bergdahl. there are major differences, though, as you know, pam. primarily when you're talking about the bin laden raid, that was a military operation and that was the end of it. you're talking about what happened with bergdahl, it was a political decision, and a political deal that they made. military operation, plus controversial decision to release the prisoners. so in talking to many sources, that is why they think on capitol hill congress was not informed right beforehand. not so much because of a trust issue, but because when they had told them about the idea of this back in the end of 2011, in a bipartisan way many people in congress thought it was a bad idea. so the suspicion, very strong suspicion in a bipartisan way is that's the reason they didn't come to congress in the days
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before this actually happened. >> dana, house speaker john boehner had something else to say today. let's take a listen to what he said. >> we're glad that bergdahl is back. but the biggest issue here is the violation of a policy that the united states has had for many, many years, that we don't negotiate with terrorists. and the fact is that we have violated that policy, and as a result, we've made americans less safe here and all around the world. and we're going to pay for this. there is not any doubt in my mind, there are going to be costs of lives associated -- lost lives associated with what came out of this. >> pam, just as i was saying before you played that sound byte, if you want to know what kind of resistance you had on capitol hill, that really speaks to it. people thought it was a terrible
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idea in private, and classified settings beforehand, now you're hearing the house speaker do it. it should be underscored we hear a lot of partisan rhetoric, a lot of it, and you might sort of -- it might go over people's heads. just to hear the house speaker effectively say the president put americans in harm's way with this swap is pretty chilling. >> yeah, a strong statement. that's for sure. dana bash, thank you very much for breaking it down for us. up next on "newsroom," police scheduled to hold a news conference any moment now on the shooting in a high school in oregon we've been telling you about. one student has died. what happened inside. we're going to bring it to you live right after this break. we're moving our company to new york state.
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>> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. hello, everyone. i'm randi kaye. we're waiting to hear the latest details on a rapidly evolving story. a police news conference on a deadly shooting at a school just outside portland, oregon. we've just learned a teacher was wounded in the shooting that killed a student, and left the gunman dead. as students piled into classrooms, a lone shooter
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entered the school, gunning down one student with a semiautomatic weapon. >> a gunman entered the high school this morning, shot one student. unfortunately, that student has died. the gunman was located, and the gunman is also deceased. >> this is a very tragic day, one that i had hoped would never, ever be part of my experience. and as we are able to get more information, the district will provide that to the public. we feel very sorry for our parents, our kids were absolutely wonder if will day exiting the building. >> now, it is still unclear if any other students were hurt, or how the gunman died. but here is what we know right now. at 8:07 this morning, that's pacific time, shots were fired at reynolds high school in
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troutdale, about 12 miles east of portland. police and tactical teams responded. evacuating students from the school, as you see it right here. they were led off campus in droves with their hands over their heads. parents were waiting anxiously to hear that their kids are safe. relief as the buses pull up, reuniting parents and students. what an emotional moment there. one extraordinary moment caught live on television with one of our affiliates. watch this. >> we're sure he's okay. but until you hear that -- until you hear the final word, you always have the thought. we're just waiting. hello? good. >> oh! >> that's what we were waiting for. that's okay. yeah. yeah, i know. that's what they were saying. so i am glad to hear from you.
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all right. are you almost ready to get on the bus to come down here, or what's the deal? >> i can breathe. >> really, an incredible moment there. evan perez, cnn justice reporter, and kenneth trump on national safety and security services. evan, there were still questions about injuries to other students. at this point what do we know about that? >> we don't know if there were any other students injured. they're still clearing the school to make sure there is nobody else who is hiding and injured and gone somewhere and wasn't found by police in the initial search. one of the things that we know the police are doing at this hour is they're trying to figure out where the gunman obtained this firearm. we also know they are doing searches to figure out any history they can find on him. obviously, the social media, computer, anything written that may have indicated or may have given any signs that this gunman was looking to do something like
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this, randi. this happened obviously at the beginning of the school day. school year is wrapping up at that high school. the kids were looking forward to getting away for their summer holiday. and then this happened. right now the authorities are getting help from the atf and fbi at the scene to try to put together what exactly happened, randi. >> as you said, they're trying to figure out what they can about this shooter. we don't even know if he was a student, right? >> they haven't said. what happens often in this -- in situations like this is, there's a lot of initial reports from the scene. we have heard reports from the scene of -- law enforcement has seen reports that they believe it was a student. but again, this is not confirmed, and not something they're willing yet to talk about. we expect we're going to get a little more information from the police at this press conference that will come up shortly. one of the things -- one of the reasons why they don't tell us that information right now is they want to try to do a search of the home, perhaps, without the media being present.
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so they can try to get to the bottom of this before we do, randi. >> and they also have not released yet how this shooter died, is that correct? >> no, that's right. that's right. we just know that the shooter is dead. and very quickly, within an hour, they were already letting students out. they knew the situation was contained fairly, fairly quickly, which is unusual in these situations, randi. >> all right. evan perez, thank you so much for that. let me bring in kenneth trump here. kenneth, each time this happens, we turn to school safety. this shooter walked straight in, shot a student. could anything have been done on the campus to stop this from happening yet again? >> randi, the initial gut feeling is, we need to look at physical security. how do we put equipment and technology and hardware to keep this shooter out. but what we haven't done since newtown, since the sandy hook shootings, is look at the people side. typically when we have incidents, school shootings, and
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they're found that there are gaps and failures, it's a failure in people, not equipment or technology. in the last couple years, we've seen a lot of rushes to put in hardware and hardening the front doors, bulletproof, ballistic, shatterproof film, and more cameras and cameras. we're dealing with people safety at multiple levels. number one is the issue of mental health. kids have undiagnosed and/or untreated mental health. we don't know at this time, but my prediction is we'll hear something there. and secondly, they need to invest in our people in the school end. we need to invest in support services for students, with the counseling and psychological services. coordination with the community on mental health. we also need to go back and invest in our people and the training, recognizing warning signs, what to do to intervene,
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security procedures, what to do in emergency preparedness and response, and we're not doing that. we're looking for quick fixes. cameras, put in a few dollars as possible and time hit and throw up equipment, make people feel safer but they may not be safer. >> let's talk about the training inside the school. students were told to stay in the classrooms. the school goes on lockdown. they train for this. some people say, maybe they shouldn't go on lockdown, maybe the kids should evacuate right away. are we teaching the right thing or the wrong thing? >> well, the majority of schools are teaching the right things, focusing on lockdowns. getting students away from harm's way. since sandy hook we've seen some emotional responses that may sound good and feel like they empower people, but they can make the kids and the staff less safe. when you have hundreds of kids who leave secure areas and run through the hallways, we saw
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this in pennsylvania with the slashing and stabbing incident a few months ago, people are running out, they're running into the police, the fire, the first responders coming in, and those first responders don't know who the good guys from the bad guys are. and it delays and impedes to get in to neutralize the shooter and help those who have medical injuries. we've heard ridiculous things in the last years since columbine, one school in one state where a deputy said his teachers had been taught in his school to throw -- to bring cans of soup. the kids bring cans of soup to throw at the heavily armed gunmen. use some common sense and invest in people. >> kenneth trump, appreciate your time. thank you. >> thanks, randi. a massive police response which comforted some parents who were very panicked about the well-being of their children, as this one mother describes. >> panicked.
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come out, flying down the street. i was shaking. just needed to get out here. >> describe the scene this morning as you have seen it, all morning long. more parents starting to show up here. what has the mood been like for you and the other parents? >> just still a lot of panic and worry, people trying to get ahold of their kids. there's some aunties that brought their nieces and nephews to school, so trying to get ahold of their parents. just waiting to hear, hoping the kids are okay. i was very surprised at all the different municipalities that came out. camas, and clark county, and clackamas county. so i'm thankful for the large response. just because you never know if there is more than one shooter, or what's going on. >> another mother describes seeing the terror on the students' faces as she yelled for kids to get inside and take cover. >> i was dropping off my
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daughter. and she was headed toward the gymnasium. and the school staff said, come in, come in. and they swept them into the front office. then the cops all showed up. and suddenly there's seven or eight police cars all around me. and they were wedging me in, telling me, get out, get out, there's a shooter, there's a shooter, there's a rifleman, get out, get out. so i could not back out. i could not turn around. i ended up going up on the curb to back my car around, as well as three other vehicles. so as the cars were starting to come in to drop their kids off, everybody was, where do i go? and there was even another little child, she was walking across the parking lot and i said, get inside! go! there's a shooter. the look of terror on that young girl's face -- anyway, i left the scene finally. and i just fell apart. >> now, again, i want to remind you, we're waiting on the news conference out of troutdale, oregon, expected any moment new. we'll bring it to you live here
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troutdale, oregon, is expected to start here at any moment now. it looks like it is under way. we're hoping to get the latest on this school shooting that occurred much earlier this morning. let's listen in. >> and then the mayor will speak after that. >> unfortunately we had a very tragic incident this morning at reynolds high school. one student is deceased as a result of a lone gunman who entered the school. the lone gunman was also deceased at the scene. we are in the process of notifying the next of kin for both. we have tentatively identified the shooter, but we're not confident enough at this point to reveal the details. i can tell you that the weapon
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that was used is a rifle. in addition, one teacher was injured with non-life-threatening injuries. the teacher was treated at the scene. not related to this incident, and during the evacuation process, a gun was found on one person. this is not believed to be a part of the incident. that person was taken into custody. the investigation will take some time, as you can imagine, and we have several tactical teams working through this investigation at this time. for reunification for the families, we have located a spot at wood village fred meyer for parents to respond to pick up their kids. i want to thank all the law enforcement agencies that came to april cyst us, as well as the
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non-governmental agencies. there will be several days of healing, and ongoing attention given to the students and the staff and anybody impacted by this tragedy. i also want to thank superintendent florence. we have two school resource officers at reynolds high school. they were the first responders. and they responded immediately. they, and another tactical team, brought this to conclusion. and i can't thank them enough. now i'd like to introduce the superintendent, linda florence. >> this is such a tragedy. my heart goes out to the individuals involved, and to their parents. i, too, want to especially thank our first responders.
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those are our school resource officers. and for our students and staff who did some real quick thinking and went into lockdown within seconds of hearing about the active shooter. i also want to thank our students and staff and teachers who did an excellent job, a calm job of evacuating the school today. and for implementing all of our safety procedures that we have at the school. parents are meeting their students at our fred meyer wood village parking lot. and being checked out. with our school staff. students who need mental help, someone to talk to, we have lots of counselors available. and for students who are already at home, and need some additional help, i have a phone
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number for them to call. multnomah county mental health at 503-988-4888. later today we'll also be notifying our parents and students of school closure. there are some things that we will have to do, some work that has to be involved. and so later on today, we will be notifying them of that. so thank you. >> i'm doug dows, the mayor of troutdale. this has been a very unsettling day for our precious city. i've been on the cell phone all morning long with the national news media. as you can imagine, they've shown quite a bit of interest in what's going on in this small city, suburb of portland. i've been on the phone
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constantly. with media back east. i really want to say, though, that -- and i shared with them that i'm very impressed with how the police handled this whole operation. i think going through a dry run a few months ago helped. and the school police officers helped a lot. but i am very impressed with the cooperation amongst all the police departments that showed up. and there were a lot of them. i was watching on the news to see how many police departments showed up, along with the sheriff's department. so my heart goes out to all the families. and that's all i have to say. thank you. >> all right. thank you. we'll have another media briefing tentatively set for 4:00 p.m. this afternoon, same location. we'll let you know once we confirm that. i do have a few things. we're unifying students with parents at the wood village fred
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meyer parking lot. the parents, if you're looking for more information about your students or have not been able to contact your student, contact the reynolds school district. 503-661-7200. that's where we're taking the students to reunify with parents. we'll be at that location until we make sure everybody has connected. the troutdale police department has set up a tip line for witnesses or anyone at the scene who saw part of the incident or knows information about the incident. that number is 503-250-7943. witnesses can call that line. it is staffed so there will be somebody there. the multnomah county -- >> you've been listening there to the latest that we know at this hour from that school shooting there in troutdale, oregon. we are hearing from officials there, they are not i.d.'ing the shooter, who is dead, or the student who was killed in that. but we do know one teacher as well was injured, but that is not a life-threatening injury. that is good news there.
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the weapon of choice, today, was a rifle. on the phone with me right now is a reynolds high school student, jamie enfaunte. jamie, you were inside that school when the shooting occurred. tell me what happened. what did you hear? and what did you do? >> when it first happened, i didn't really know what to expect. mr. dixon, i believe, is the one who announced it saying, this is a lockdown, go in the room, turn off the lights and lock the doors. at the end, he said, this is not a drill. from then on i just went into the room there, where my original teacher, mr. larson told us to go to mr. moffit's room. from then on, we sat in there for about 40 minutes, in the dark. and it was actually in the gym building, not in the main building, so we were able to turn on one light, and have some
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communication with what was going on outside. a few minutes or later mr. moffit comes in and says, all right, i need you guys to stay calm, but there has been a few gunshots. and there was a teacher that has been shot. and then later on somebody on their phone found out from, like, twitter or something about who got shot. i thought he was legitimately shot, but later i found out that he was just grazed by the bullet. about ten minutes or so later, police officers and s.w.a.t. team and fbi came banging on the door saying, police, police! everybody stand up, put your hands behind your head. then we went out. and before then, i heard some people, like, wanting to come inside, like students who just arrived there. >> let me ask you about -- just take me back to where it all
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started. do you remember hearing the gunshots? and if so, how many? >> i don't remember hearing gunshots. i heard something that turned out to be a gunshot. i thought -- i didn't even realize it was a gunshot. i thought somebody just dropped something, you know, on the outside. and i didn't think anything of it. and later on, i found out it was a gunshot. it just sounded like somebody dropped a book. >> we've all seen these scenes play out so many times. i'm sure you have as well. how did you find the strength and your fellow students to remain calm inside this classroom? did you barricade yourselves or just remain calm? >> to be quite honest, the people that took it seriously were scared. but the majority of the people that i was with in the room did not take it seriously. there were people who just laughed about the whole thing, and kind of didn't really want
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to believe it. but also, wanted to stay calm about it. but if anything, they weren't taking it as seriously as they should. >> and jaime, tell me, in the press conference, they said there had been a dry run of sorts. is this a lockdown dry run, or what type of drill were all the students put through? >> oh, it was just a lockdown, where you -- everybody goes into a room, as far away from the windows and as far away from the doors as possible, turn off the lights and everybody has to be quiet. that's what we went through. >> and how quickly were you able to call your family and let everybody know you were okay? >> when we were still sitting in silence for about the first 20 minutes, i saw some people going on their phones, like texting. and i just decided maybe that's okay, so i started texting and started letting my mom know what was happening, where i was.
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it was short brief text messages because i didn't know what was going to happen. if anything, i was trying to hide the light from my phone, just in case. but it didn't seem like anybody around me really did all that much precaution. at least i was able to let her know what was happening. >> i'm sure she appreciated that, as did so many other parents who were so worried about their children and their students. jaimie infante, thank you for your time. >> thank you. we will, of course, have much more on this tragedy in troutdale, oregon, ahead. up next, more on a married couple's rampage in las vegas, including disturbing new videos from the killers. in pursuit of all things awesome, amazing, and that's epic, bro, we've forgotten just how good good is. good is setting a personal best before going for a world record. good is swinging to get on base before swinging for a home run.
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they saw police as the enemy. the las vegas couple who turned their extremist views into violence. jerad and amanda miller carried out a horrific ambush taking the lives of two police officers at a pizzeria and a bystander at walmart. today we're learning the warning signs were there. postings on youtube revealed the ramblings of an angry man. >> i know it feels like me and you versus the world. it kind of is. you know, a bunch of zombies out there, a bunch of sheeple.
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just ignorantly working into their deaths. i'm so glad you're like that, baby. i'm so glad i found you. >> among the clues found at the crime scene, a don't tread on me flag, and a nazi swastika that they placed on one of the police officers they killed. friends of the fallen officers held a vigil monday night. we're hearing from the gunman jerad miller's mother today. we're profoundly sad, confused and shocked over the acceptsless actions of our son and his wife. let's bring in stephanie elam. stephanie, you talked with the family and friend of one of the victims. what are they telling you? >> reporter: that's right, randi. i spoke to the family and friends of joseph wilcox. he's the man who was inside the walmart, and when other people heard gunshots and were running out of the store, he ran toward it of the he was intent on trying to help stop these two gunmen. and with that, his friend tells
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me who was actually in the store with him, exactly what happened. take a listen to what he has to say. >> when the gunman came in, they started yelling, this is a revolution, the beginning of the revolution, everybody get out. you will be shot. joseph had the option to go left, and exit the store to safety, but he instead went into the store and chased after the gunmen. >> and when they took a look at what they saw, jeremy tanner telling me that they were armed, it looked like they had gear on, guns, ammunition, and they looked like they were coming in, and very much prepared for heading into a very big battle. but he said that one look in seeing the man with the gun, he ran out, and his friend, he looked at his friend to get an idea of what he was going to do, he said he did have a conceal carry and license, and did have a gun on him, and joseph wilcox thought it was his duty to go stop him. what he did not know is jerad
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miller's wife amanda was part of the scenario. she turned the gun and shot and killed him. it took hours before they heard anything about what happened to joseph that day. i also spoke to joseph's younger sister, and she told me what it was like waiting to hear about her brother. >> we were just waiting for a call saying he's alive, he's at a pris station. we got the call that he was the one victim inside walmart. >> at this point, the family says they believe that their loved one who said he put family first was acting heroically, that he is a hero, and he died acting out something he believed in. and that was the right to carry a gun. they say he is a hero in their mind. randi? >> stephanie, i'm curious, what did jeremy tanner think or do when his friend didn't emerge from walmart right after him? >> reporter: he said he wanted
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to stop him and say, come with me. he said, i didn't have a gun, but i wanted him to come with me. but i knew this was something he cared about. these two had been friends for a long time. so when jeremy ran out of the store, he was waiting to see joseph emerge as well. when that didn't happen, he was out there for hours. he called 911 and told them, there's a civilian in there with a gun. he has a conceal to carry a weapon. it took well into the night before he found out what happened to his friend. >> terrifying moments, and a terrifying wait for sure. stephanie elam, thank you. coming next, lawsuiin afgha, five american special forces are killed. apparently in a battle gone wrong. and in iraq, a state of emergency is called after a deadly militant onslaught. government offices and tv stations taken over. a special cnn report coming up. s in the world, are the largest targets in the world, for every hacker, crook and nuisance in the world.
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shocking losses today for the u.s. cause in afghanistan. for the free iraq, more than 4,000 americans died for. in southern afghanistan, five americans special forces have died in what an allied statement said in an apparent reference to friendly fire. u.s. troops were held under enemy fire, triggering allied strikes. in iraq, the second largest city, mosul, has fallen to sunni insurgents. reports say iraqi troops cut and ran after militants stormed the
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city in make-shift pickups mounted with automatic guns. bodies littered the streets after days of savage fighting, including mortar attacks on civilians. the fall of mosul casts a string of rebel successes and prime minister nuri al maliki is now asking for a state of emergency. more now from cnn's nic robertson. >> reporter: randi, this isn't just a psychological coup for the islamic state of iraq and syria, this group, this al qa a qaeda splinter group calls itself. they've not only taken control of parts of the second largest city in iraq, but they have by taking control of police stations, they've got control of a large amount of weapons, of ammunition stockpiles, of military -- of armored military vehicles. they've got control of the international airport. that until just a few years ago, was controlled by the u.s.
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military. what has happened here is that the iraqi security forces trained by the united states put down their weapons and ran away when thesisie isis were approacg the city. we've heard from the prime minister of the neighboring kurdish region saying iraqi security forces didn't do enough to secure mosul. that's why it's overrun. we're hearing from the u.n. that half a million people have put to flight from mosul in the last four days. this has been something that has been coming for some time. there is sectarian warfare going on in iraq. it was the bloodiest year in five years, according to u.n., 8,800 people killed. most of them civilians. what has been happening. isis has been taking control of
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more areas in iraq, towns in the west of the country earlier this year. the government, the shia dominated government of nuri al maliki in baghdad hasn't been able to take those towns back. they've essentially lost control of large parts of the western part of the country. isis has bases in syria, is exploiting the weaknesses of the civil war there, attracting a lot of foreign fighters. that gives them extra firepower when they take their fight across the border into iraq. and the iraqi government hasn't been able to stop this, hasn't been able to stop their advance. now isis has control of significant parts of this major city. and there doesn't seem any ability this time to stop their gains in the country, randi. >> nic robertson, thank you very much. yet information american community is in shock today, after a deadly school shooting. with only days left in the school year, troutdale, oregon, is stunned. the shooter is dead, along with another victim. more on this tragedy straight ahead.
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for teenagers at reynolds high school outside portland, the school day started just like any other. that changed rapidly and violently. yet another school shooting leaving a student dead and a teacher injured. the gunman is dead. police are in the process of notifying the families. now here is the chief of police for the city of troutdale. >> unfortunately we had a very tragic incident this morning at reynolds high school. one student is deceased as a result of a lone gunman who entered the school. the lone gunman was also deceased at the scene. we are in the process of notifying the next of kin for both. we have tentatively identified
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the shooter, but we're not confident enough at this point to reveal the details. i can tell you that the weapon that was used is a rifle. in addition, one teacher was injured, with non-life-threatening injuries. the teacher was treated at the scene. not related to this incident, and during the evacuation process, a gun was found on one person. this is not believed to be a part of the incident. that person was taken into custody. >> anxious parents depended on social media to communicate with their children inside that school. some used facebook while others managed to exchange some cell phone text messages with their children. >> i just wanted to know if he was okay. he said we're inside the their
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teacher locked the room. they're just waiting there to see what's going on. >> he said that the shooting originated in the weight room, in the gym. and that one teacher and one student had been shot. and then he said he could hear police fire. and then afterwards, we were told that the shooter had been neutralized. he thought there was only one, but everyone through here said there is possibly three. all he told us was that. >> certainly a terrifying time there earlier today. it was one of washington's best-kept secrets. the plan to trade five taliban prisoners for a u.s. soldier. congress told about osama bin laden's impending takedown but kept in the dark about bowe bergdahl. and why? what does it say about the trustworthiness of congress? jake tapper joining me next.
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. members of congress are getting briefed yet again on the exchange of five taliban militants held for years at guantanamo bay for sergeant bowe bergdahl. republican senators left their briefing unconvinced. >> i think it's at least as likely, in my opinion, more likely, that the release of these prisoners and the way it will embolden the enemy and encourage them not to reconcile and, in fact, weaken our ability for the people of afghanistan to achieve what we have agreed to in a bipartisan way. >> members are also grasping at the white house before the bergdahl swap. the obama administration says it guarded the plan closely out of
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concern for bowe bergdahl's safety but several members say they were told about it in advance so why not bowe bergdahl? jake tapper is joining me. nice to see you. it sounds like the republican lawmakers are not letting up at all. >> no, not at all. and it's true that many members of congress -- not many but a few were briefed on the bin laden raid. here is a key difference between the bin laden raid and briefing congress on that and this prisoner swap, is that there are a lot of people in congress, democrats and republicans, who on its face would have opposed the prisoner swap for many reasons. and so the suspicion from the obama administration, from the white house that if they had told congress it would have leaked is not just based on the idea that congress leaks, which it does, although the white house also leaks, it is the
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suspicion that congress would have leaked it in order to prevent it from happening, in order to have stopped it from happening because there is such opposition against it. because, a, the white house is required by law to alert congress about the transfer of any gitmo prisoners with a 30-day leeway and, b, because a lot of members of congress feel like this was not a good swap and should have came together with a large reconciliation with the taliban. >> meanwhile, the white house is getting hammered over this still. i guess hindsight is 20/20 but do you think that the white house saw this coming? >> it's tough to say what they thought at the white house because not only is hindsight 20/20 but so is recidivism. they did not anticipate what the
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platoon mates of sergeant bergdahl have said about him, about the circumstances or that the opposition would be so fierce to the swap itself in addition to not notifying congress. i have to say, as somebody who has known about the bowe bergdahl case for quite some time, i am surprised that they are surprised. there's been a lot of resentiment towards bergdahl from his former platoon mates for years. it's been quiet but it has not been secret. and then cross always exerts itself when it comes to the separation of powers and they are a co-equal brampnch entitle to know by 30-day notice and thirdly, not unprecedented in american history but something that would be a controversial decision, randi. >> certainly a lot of concern there. jake tapper, thank you. "the lead" starts in just a few
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