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race for who becomes the next speaker. >> quickly, does this change the path at all? >> no, this seat will stay in republican hands. it is a conservative district. the numbers will stay the same, republicans very likely to hold onto the house. >> just an incredible development right now, mark is going to stay with us, because anderson is covering this incredible story. all right, thank you very much, welcome to the top of the hour right now, mark is what is going on down there? >> do you want to give me a second on the phone -- >> what is going on, mark, what is the latest? >> well, hey, anderson, at this point it is interesting, i'm starting to get e-mails and phone calls, right now the house majority leader eric cantor appears to be heading for defeat. what it means at this point is we could see a wide open race for the number two republican slot in the house of representatives. eric cantor, the only jush
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republican in congress, eric cantor was in line when john boehner stepped down as speaker of the house. eric cantor expected to win re-election, looks like he will go down as losing from the right. >> this was a challenger from the right? >> it was a challenger from the right. his opponent accused him of not being strong enough on immigration, we're seeing it become front and center. >> so the question is what does it mean for those who want a sort of compromise down the road? there are some i would imagine that say this makes the idea of compromise in the next year or two even unlikely. it certainly sends that message. >> it certainly emboldens the tea party. we'll see what happens in the next couple of weeks, where we see a tea party member, in congress since 1973. but with cantor we see something
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very unexpected. certainly in the house of representatives this will make the tea party movement bolder which has really been frustrated by their lack of wins so far this year. this will be a big win. in fact, the biggest upset of the year, anderson if it were to happen. >> did the polls show this coming? i think i read something in "the washington post" that seemed to think eric cantor would win this? >> it looked like he was going to win, his internal polling even showed that. even the richmond stories were covering it in the way to show that he would win election, successful in beating back the challenge from his right. right now it appears he had done so. i just got off the phone with somebody who is pretty familiar. their takeaway is there were more brat signs around. that eric cantor's political operation was a little rusty. he came too late to the game. this is a perfect example of
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somebody here in washington who has gotten a little bit lazy and didn't act quick enough to win their primary. >> joining us on the phone, senior political analyst gloria borger, what do you make of this? >> well, i think that eric cantor got into the race very late. realized he had a candidate on the right. last saturday he was booed at a gathering of republican activists. and that was a clear sign he had some problems. here in washington, d.c., he is somebody who had real ambition to become the speaker of the house. should john boehner leave. now he has this really serious and successful challenge from an economic professor in richmond. and it seems that he came out in the end sort of swinging at his opponent, brat, for portraying him inaccurately. but there were lots of conservatives who kind of decided to go with brat.
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and to have a real impact. and what often happens to politicians in washington when they get challenged is they realize a little too late they're in a lot of trouble. this is what cantor's campaign team tells every republican don't do. have your people on the ground with your ears to the ground and understand when you're in trouble. and it seems like that advice was not followed. >> what does it mean for politics on capitol hill over the next year or two if in fact this holds up? >> well, i think it scares everybody. i think it scares everybody who was actually thinking of -- for example, voting with the president on things like immigration reform. eric cantor is a conservative. eric cantor is not a liberal or moderate republican. but he has been a leader so there have been times when he has been with john boehner, for example, trying to end the government shutdown.
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et cetera. so if you're in a district that has a conservative base you have to stay there. and you cannot sway. and this is the problem that republicans have when they try in the leadership to cut deals. and so i think this is going to scare an awful lot of republicans who were afraid of either a, being primaried, or b, just losing in a really conservative district. there is no reason for them to run to the center ever. >> i want to put the poll numbers up again. because at this point it would be -- you know, better than anyone, it is very hard to see how he could possibly overcome the numbers at this point. 56% to 44%. >> yeah, anderson, absolutely. and look, we're looking at this as one man losing but it really does have greater implications. he was in line to become the next house speaker when john boehner were to step aside. right now republicans are very
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well entrenched there, expected to hold on by a margin. eric cantor waiting in the wings to lead the republican party. certainly, the house has to be looking at it. the greater implications is, what is the future of the republican party. will we see the tea party emboldened in the house of representatives? will we see an internal fight right now over who is going to be the majority leader of the house of representatives? what is john boehner going to do. he has easily won his primary earlier this year. but after this election will he decide to retire? so there are greater implications on the direction with the republican party in the house. we're seeing a big surprise that will really trigger a lot of things certainly in the coming months. >> gloria, do you agree with mark? >> i do, one of the dangers of becoming a leader in washington is that it always comes around and bites you.
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because your constituents will then say you know what? you're paying a little too much attention to your larger political ambition than you are to the folks back home. that is why mitch mcconnell is saying i'm delivering everything i can for the state of kentucky because i'm a leader, right? the people in his district are saying you know what? you didn't deliver for us and you had to tow the line with the republican leadership which by the way, as conservative as it may be is not popular. you know, congress has a what? 9 or 10% approval rating? so if you're a leader of a very unpopular congress even if you are a republican who is fighting the president it is dangerous terrain. it is dangerous terrain to be a leader. >> and if you are president obama and the administration and the white house and you're watching this what do you think, mark preston, is the message to
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them on this as to looking at negotiations and things down the road? >> certainly they have to be looking at this and saying what little hope we had of a working relationship with congress is slowly slipping away. at this point the obama relationship with the house republicans was terrible. it is now just going to get worse. and if you look at what is happening in the senate there is a very good chance, anderson, that you will see republicans take back control of the senate. so while president obama is trying to get a few more initiatives through a big signature item with the immigration reform he has to be looking at congress saying we're not going to get it right now. the only way we're going to get it is perhaps by executive order trying to muscle things through. quite frankly, anderson, we haven't even talked about the democrat democrats at this point. but republicans have to be concerned about certainly what is happening within their party. you have to be wondering what some democrats in the red states are thinking right now. certainly in the senate, and
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louisiana, and carolina and alaska, are they now trying to attack a little more to the right after seeing what happened in virginia? that is a plausible thing that is going to happen. it will be interesting if they start attacking even more -- >> you know the issue of immigration, it became a very big issue in this district because eric cantor came out in support you know of the dreamers, allowing you know, the children of those who enter the country illegally to obtain some kind of legal status here. and that became an issue in the campaign with brat saying that he supported amnesty. so if you're the white house and looking at some type of compromise maybe even on some of the smaller issues on immigration i think this is -- this is not good news. >> and mark preston, i mean wharks do we know about dave brat? who is he? >> well, that is a great question, we don't know a lot about him. as gloria said he is an economic
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professor, a member of the local republican party down there. but really beyond that we don't know much about him on the national stage. but what i can tell you is that assuming he wins tonight, it looks like he is going to. he is now going to be one of those national hero. he is going to be somebody for the tea party to look for some leadership. so imagine taking somebody out of obscurity and thrusting them on the national stage. i think that is what is going to happen. >> and dana bash is joining us, what do you feel about these developments? there are a lot of people saying has the tea party run its course? clearly tonight in this race this would be a victory. >> every single loss that they have had this year will be completely wiped off the map with this kind of win if in fact they can topple eric cantor, the number two republican in the house. just as an anecdote, i am late
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to the conversation because i went home. i checked with pretty good source news cantorland, they are telling me they feel completely confident that this is a media story and not real. >> even though he hoday, in the couple of hours. >> absolutely, this afternoon, i just talked to a source that -- i would say a cantor source who admitted it is not looking good. i mean, that is obvious, the numbers speak for themselves, they're not looking good. we do expect to hear from eric cantor tonight down in his richmond district to talk about what this all means. the obvious question that i had was if he does in fact lose what will happen? will he serve out his term? will he run as a write-in candidate, which the republicans in the last like lisa murckowski, the senator from alaska did, when she lost to the republican challenger, the answer was those discussions haven't even happened. they're in a state of shock. i think it is hard to overstate how much of a political earthquake this is if this does
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in fact happen. >> let's just look at the numbers, cnn now projecting that dave brat is the winner of this race, 86% of the votes counted. 56 to 44% with 86% of the votes counted. as you were saying the ripple effects of this, dana, a seismic shift kn shift. >> there are so many different kinds of shifts, one is just the different personalities. and gloria, i know you were asking the question when it came to issues. our diedra walsh did a nice story on cnn.com on the race. and david brat is not a well known guy, an economics professor down in this virginia district. he ran primarily on the idea that eric cantor is too liberal
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on immigration because he has supported the idea of allowing children of illegal immigrants who came here illegally as well ultimately to have legal status. that was a non-starter for him and for many of his supporters. he had some big name republican commentators come down. laura ingraham, if you watch her twitter feed she has made this one of her big causes trying to get rid of cantor for a lot of reasons. and immigration is one of the reasons. as you have been talking about it, it is ironic, eric cantor is one of the most conservative. >> and gloria as you said for a lot of the issues, the democrats are seeing some sort of negotiation, a deal-making on the likelihood of that. it certainly raises a lot of questions. >> yeah, i mean, i think republicans who were not running scared may now start running scared. i mean, look, eric cantor had a
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sizeable war chest. millions of dollars to brat's few $100,000. primaries bring out face voters. they don't like congress, or the republican leadership in congress. cantor, as dana points out he is the conservative member of the republican leadership. quite conservative. but he is tarred with the same brush. so it is dangerous to be a republican leader. it is dangerous to cut any deals with president obama if you're a republican. and i, you know, i think eric cantor as a symbol is somebody who lots of people saw as potentially somebody who could become the next speaker of the house. and you can't sort of understate the ripple effect of this throughout the rank and file in the republican party. >> dana, at what point do you think we anticipate eric cantor actually speaking tonight?
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>> unclear, as i said i just spoke to a cantor aide who said we do expect to hear from him. this is not a speech that he had prepared i'll tell you that much. so they're trying to figure out exactly how to frame this, how to discuss it, where to go from here. there is no question about that. i can also tell you our diedra walsh, our congressional reporter has been reporting on this race just saying that she spoke to a source close to cantor's challenger, david brat, who is as shocked as everybody else is, who seems to be successful here. he was joking with her yesterday, when the two of them spoke that the fact he knows he will pull off an upset and there will be a cnn truck pulling into his driveway tonight or tomorrow morning. even he thought it was a joke. but now it is not a joke. it looks like he has pulled off the upset of the political year. upset in years, absolute years when you think about all of the drama that we are looking at
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right now. given the fact that as gloria has been saying, eric cantor is somebody, and his team has been working hard with his rank and file incumbent republicans to make sure this very thing didn't happen to them. and it happened. >> and our diedra walsh is heading to an event right now with supporters in virginia and will address the results there. but again, the idea, he is as shocked as anybody really gives you a sense of just how kind of down to the wire this was and how unexpected this was for both sides. gloria borger, dana bash, mark preston. we'll check in with you. and again, there is a shooting in portland, oregon, police just released information on the shooting. we'll have the latest next. ♪ norfolk southern what's your function? ♪
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welcome back, we're going to continue to follow the biggest upset of the year, the political incident with eric cantor. and for the second time this week, we've seen two schools evacuated, the drillings, the shooter, almost always male is back in the building. for the second time in week the parents waited for the word, for the worst. some were on national tv when the call came. >> is that correct? oh, thank god. >> hello. that is what we were waiting for. that is okay. i'm -- yeah, i know. that is what they're saying.
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so i am glad to hear from you. all right. so are you almost ready to get on the bus and come down here or what is the deal? >> i can breathe. >> well, a lot of parents couldn't breathe. and the gunman at reynolds high school who we will not be naming, shot another student and then himself. the fact that it doesn't take away from the rage that it happened again and again. the group, every town for gun safety put the information together. you're looking at 74 school shootings since the massacre at sandy hook elementary school. and in trotdale, oregon, today, 74. president obama spoke about it today and did not mince words. >> we're the only developed country on earth where this happens. and it happens now once a week.
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and it is a one-day story. there is no place else like this. the united states does not have a monopoly on crazy people. it is -- not the only country that has psychosis. and yet, we kill each other in these -- in these mass shootings at rates that are exponential higher than any place else. well, what is the difference? the difference is these guys can stack up a bunch of ammunition in their houses and that sort of par for the course. so the country has to do some soul searching about this. >> again, local authorities in trotdale in oregon just wrapping up a news conference. what is the latest that you're
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hearing? >> reporter: we have just heard a confirmation of the victim in this case. emilio hoffman, 14 years old, a freshman. and we happened to talk to students who knew him. they say he was an amazing kid that anyone would have been lucky to know. that is how they put it when they talked about emilio hoffman, just a young guy in his first year of high school. we learned that the sheriff's office is not releasing the name of the shooter although we do know his body was found in a bathroom. we know the shooting now took place inside of the gym in the locker room to be very particular. this is a community that had all shown up here, all the families came to this parking lot waiting to hear word of their students, shaken, scared, worried. at least one of those family's student is not going to come home alive. >> i understand you spoke to an eyewitness, what did he tell
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you? >> yeah, brandon block, he was a kid that loved his school. he was sitting right outside the gym and this is what he heard. >> we heard a lot of loud bangs and we didn't even jump. we thought it was like fireworks or something. and we see one of the teachers run out of the building with more shots, like the sound going off. he kept running right by us. and then right after that another teacher came out asking if we heard fireworks, and we said it was just a whisper. and then i went in to look at where he was running from and there were just other students standing around asking what happened. >> now, you heard him mention mr. rispler, he is a coach and teacher and was grazed by a bullet. he was certainly shaken, but there are a lot of questions asked about yet another school shooting. >> sarah, i want to go back to
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the upset in virginia, the house majority leader going down in defeat to tea party challenger dave brat, let's go back to dana bash and senior political analyst david gergen joins us. david, i just wanted to read a tweet. it said earthquake, the house minority leader eric cantor has seen defeat. >> it is the most upset we've seen. this will be an earthquake in the republican party. he was the number two house leader for the republicans. frankly he is one of the most innovative thinkers that a republican party has. and to be knocked off by a conservative over his efforts to push for immigration reform and his earlier efforts to lift the debt ceiling i think is going to send shock waves through the republican ranks. the great majority of americans
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support the things he is doing. >> it is fascinating, gloria borger, i'm just looking at the "the washington post" article, where they say that cantor claims 34-point lead over opponent brat. how did they get it so wrong? >> it is hard for these publicists in any race, to get it accurate. but one would think they are spending serious money on polling. but as we discussed earlier if you're not there and don't have a grass roots organization and you're not on the ground to see these things percolate then you have a problem. and this is the advice they give all of their candidates, which is keep in touch with the districts. that one of the down sides of being a leader is that there are a lot of other things going on in your life. and even though he is only a
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couple of hours away, or less than that this was clearly a problem. and as dana and i were talking about earlier, immigration is a huge issue. if i were in the white house right now i would take a look at the results of this because eric cantor had had expressed some interest in the dream act. and i think i would see the white house saying you know what? there is no way we're going to get republicans to go along with this. so i do think it sends shocks to so many different directions it is hard to count at this point. >> you know, david gergen you talked about the impact in the republican party for others, even democrats in close races in red states for the white house looking to make deals moving forward on immigration and other issues. what do you see the impact? >> anderson, the democrats running in red states have to be
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worried. the stress and the anger that you see in the populace upsets, like in new york, with -- de blasio as mayor, i do think it is worth pointing out anderson, that the establishment candidates have done well in the primaries. and there is a sigh of relief in the republican establishment, if there is such a thing, that the -- it seems to be dying down. this sends a message, the tea party is in force and if you're not careful you can get knocked off. >> that is another one that is a surprise. by and large, like mcconnell and others, the establishment figures have done better than
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they would have done in previous cycles. but this is an outlyer and will cause people to consider. i think to go back to the earlier point, the immigration reform makes it even harder, it is really difficult to get the republicans to come along and put together a bipartisan bill. >> 90% of the vote now counted. you saw the other percentages there, about a 10,000 vote difference. 6,655 vote different, 55% to 45%, 10%. dana bash for those on capitol hill who are watching, i'm wondering if you're already hearing feedback, even for speaker john boehner, what is the impact? >> i haven't heard yet from anyone from the speaker's house but i just got a text from a republican lawmaker who said none of us on our side saw this coming. lots of ramifications for the gop. none of them good. this as you can imagine from not a conservative republican but
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one of the few remaining moderates. one thing i can share with you, i got an e-mail from somebody who is a movement conservative who says he is at a dinner with other, he calls it the who's who of conservative and tea party leaders who said that they are as you can imagine cheering, in fact, one, brent bozell, said that eric cantor's loss tonight is an apocalypse for the movement. certainly, any kind of fence that they got from all the losses, real big losses except for texas that they have had this year as i said wiped off. completely wiped off. because nobody expected to get the number two republican in the house to be knocked off by his own party. i was just trying to think when the last time anything like this has happened if it happened. obviously we've seen leaders in each party in congress get
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defeated by somebody in the opposite party. tom daschle was a democracy majority leader. tom foley was the house speaker. but i don't remember somebody getting beat by his or her own party this high up in the lis n leadership. it is stunning, everybody is shocked. that is why we're getting so few statements, because nobody thought it would happen. >> well, what does the apocalypse look like, what does it actually boil down to? >> i think in the short term it will send the republican party which i think in the past couple of months as we've seen the primary results for the most part go for the establishment figure or the incumbent. it looked like the civil war in the party was starting to perhaps die down a little bit. this throws this right back into play. completely, and i think into chaos. people in congress, republicans who were maybe trying -- starting to inch back towards
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compromised positions on things like immigration will be scared to do so. because they will be worried about getting beaten by somebody from the right. if eric cantor can get beaten by somebody from the right why can't a rank and file republican without the resources, if that happened to them, it is going to throw all of the ideas of any kind of reaching out across the aisle over the next -- certainly over the next few months, but maybe even at the end of the obama term it will throw it all up in the air. >> we're told that brat will be speaking soon, we'll bring it to you live. that should be interesting to say the least. we'll be right back after a quick break with continuing political coverage ahead. es. you make commitments. and when you can't live up to them, you own up, and make it right. some people think the kind of accountability that thrives on so many streets in this country has gone missing in the places where it's needed most.
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presidential candidate newt gingrich. what do you think? >> i think this is about a scale heat earthquake. i think it will shock the washington establishment and will shock the house republicans. it certainly upsets all of the balance of power inside the republican conference. and combined with the results recently in mississippi it sends a pretty strong signal that well, money matters. voters may matter more. and people need to have a little bit of respect for the right of the voter to have attention paid to them and the right of the voter to throw people out if they're not happy with them. and eric cantor is a very smart man, this is not an anti-cantor statement. he is hard working, but it appears that a very large part of his constituents were not happy and he was not paying attention to them. that is the message, members who pay attention, members who
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listen to the folks are able to ultimately do very well. that people who think somehow that money and consultants are a substitute for grass roots paying attention i think always run a risk. >> to echo that, mr. speaker, they say cantor spent $5.4 million on this race, dave brat spent thousands. >> sure, and this is a classic mistake of the washington consulting class which i frankly am deeply hostile to, they managed to convince eric to run negative ads against a man who was totally unknown. i have not seen the analysis yet, but i will bet you more of the name identification came from eric cantor's ads than came from his own activities. and that is just plain malpractice on the part of the consultants.
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>> they were saying that cantor was maligning him, and calling him a liberal even saying a lot of things that eric cantor were saying in ads were flat out wrong. >> i just think in the country at large there is a growing exhaustion with negative politics and negative attacks. again, eric cantor had a great record and was an extraordinarily successful member of congress. he had a ton of things to campaign on. and i admire greatly what he has done over the years and i don't think people should react that this is a right versus left. this is an out of touch, not paying attention and then having your consultants do two or three really stupid things. any time you can out-spend two to three times, you have to assume there was something flawed about your campaign. >> and there are some that suggest he could be a write-in candidate for murckowski. do you think that could happen?
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>> look, eric is a very smart guy and a very competent guy. he has to decide what is his future? and if he wants to take a gamble in a write-in campaign that is certainly possible. but he has to be careful not to look like a spoiled sport. you know, i lost twice on the way to becoming speaker of the house. bill clinton lost the governs p governorship on the way to the white house. you know, sometimes you have to take time off and say to the voters i hear you, i respect you. this is a fairly substantial margin. and sometimes you're better off to take a deep breath, saying maybe i need to take a year off, come home, do some teaching. and then he would be a candidate for either governor or senator in the future. and nobody should estimate that eric cantor has a great future in politics, but maybe it is not
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the last-minute desperation of becoming the write-in candidate. i would be a little skeptical given the size of the margin and given the fact that every tea party member in the country would pile on. it would be very, very challenging for eric. >> mr. speaker, what does this mean for speaker john boehner? >> well, first of all boehner did the right thing. he went back home. and took seriously his opponent just as mitch mcconnell did his. he spent time at the early. and ran a very steady, constant low-key campaign. and the folks at home said you know, i respect you. my experience in congress, i had very close races and as you know i was always willing to take risks and stand out in public and do things that were right and take the consequences. my experience is if you went home and had town hall meetings, over time people came to respect you even if they disagreed on
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one or two issues. i predict that lindsey graham will be proof of this in south carolina. he has done exactly the right things and worked himself into a position in the last couple years. i may not agree with him all the time but i agree with him enough. that is a very important part of this process and frankly i'll always be reminded. talking about secretary clinton's new book today and the fact that she lost in 2008. and she also experienced this feeling. in the end the voters get to decide. it is not the money or the pacs or the consultants. it is one of the healthiest things about this process. i talked to john boehner who has been at this for a long time as a state legislator and congressman. i suspect he is saying he will do everything to help eric cantor, and will get a good launch if he decides to go
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somewhere else. but that is the american process. we are subordinate to the american people. and life will go on. they will find a new majority leader and things will turn out to be all right a year from now. >> and for those who want compromise on things like immigration reform does this make that harder to come by? >> well, it makes it more complicated but it means you also have to go home and explain it. i get frankly pretty sick of the washington elites telling us what we should tell people, if you can't explain what you're doing you should go home and quit your job. i believe you -- i ran as you know, for president by taking a very strong position and i got no backlash on the right because i was able to explain it in a common sense way that they were comfortable with. but it does mean any time you want to take a position which is at the margin of your constituency you had better
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quadruple the time you spent in town hall meetings. so people relax and get comfortable have a chance to really push you and challenge you. if you're comfortable, the two key rules, cheerful, persistence and lead, and if you will do those you can carry your district a long way. >> and for those watching and listening particularly those in the obama administration have things just gotten harder for them? >> well, it may be harder in a way people may not appreciate yet. this country is angry about terrorists, obamacare, angry about the economy. and if anything, republicans are under pressure because they're not seen as tough enough. not because they're too soft. and the democrats need to understand. they're going to be running this fall against an enormous
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headwind. and the president has only increased the likelihood of a republican tsunami. and this is a reminder these tsunamis can emerge. they almost always don't emerge before september 15th. and when they emerge you're just riding a wild wave. and i think the odds are even money now you're going to see a tsunami this fall. >> wow, speaker newt gingrich, thank you for your time. also joining us is chief national correspondent john king. and jake, let me start with you. you're there. what is the mood there? what has it been like? >> well, immigration reform protesters just stormed the room which has little effect because cantor has already left and he has lost the race. but this was stunning to cantor supporters who had been telling me, i heard the story a couple of months ago they were laughing me off when i started to write about it as a serious challenge. and cantor was staying about 60%, but using those metrics he
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got somewhat lahallacked. and he had asked a reform bill to stop insider trading that didn't have sharp enough teeth. and was accused of supporting so-called amnesty. but this regards politics not only in virginia but house republican leadership that will now be in a complete state of flux in an election year. >> john king, i read a tweet from you earlier where you said you talked to one about a money -- how do you see the ripple effects? >> because it is such a surprise, the establishment gets on its heels, eric cantor thought he would win, his challenger thought he didn't have the prayer. he thought he would get 40%. and tonight he just beat him in the primary.
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and so from jake's point, in the last couple of weeks maybe it made the voters extra mad at cantor. more importantly, what made his voters, more traditional establishment republicans complace complacent? they decided not to turn out tonight, that is what happened. he spent money on television and a lot of money on direct mail and radio. and yet he could not turn his voters out today. so there is a flip side you have to study, too. why didn't his folks come out. >> they will study that. they are studying it saying the tea party is taking full control of the republican party. again, i would agree with speaker newt gingrich to a degree. if this is proof and we'll get another test from mississippi in the runoff down there. and the conservative base as we get closer to november is getting more active and agitated. this will shock the house republicans first. and everybody with stakes in november will spend time scratching their heads and
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studying it. >> john, have you been able to kind of bear down and look at turnout results and where areas turned out, which is always your specialty on these kind of nights? have you been able to do that to get a sense of where cantor's supporters, whether they did turn out and why they stayed hom home? >> i have not been able to do that with the level of detail that i'll be able the do by tomorrow night just because of how the results came in. and the technology available to me tonight. but at first glance i'm getting from folks as i reach out to republicans asking them what happened is that you have more of what i'll call the more suburban traditional establishment republican voter not turning out. and more of the -- the non-conventional republicans coming out. again, if you look at the numbers this is a very low turnout, and eric cantor simply got caught by surprise. not just eric cantor, if we watch the other races again we'll watch the mississippi race as an example. we see a number of races, other republicans targeted by the tea
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party. the chamber of commerce, that didn't happen in virginia because they thought it was locked up. the surprise of this is what makes it interesting and what takes you back to 2010. when some of these tea party victories literally came out of the blue. the tea party is on our map now, so we're studying. mr. brat was written off as okay, nice try, give it your best run but it's not going to happen. yet he shocked everybody tonight. speaker cantor and boehner, and will shock democrats as well as they try to study what are we missing? you ask any smart democrat this morning if they talked about eric cantor losing, they would have laughed at the republicans would have done. they will try to figure out is this isolated. or is it the beginning of something you need to track from now until november. >> and again, eric cantor spent $5.4 million on this race. brat spending $200,000. everyone stick around, we'll be right back, more ahead.
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eric cantor, going down in the primary, dave brat, winning. back with politicos dave sherman and eric cantor has already spoken, he has not spoken for very long. >> he spoke for about five minutes and basically thanked his family. it was a great honor and talked about his agenda. i just add from john's points earlier about the surprise. it was a huge surprise. and i think that one of the elements that played in to his district is that brat played on the fact that cantor was in leadership and spends a lot of time fundraising around the country. well, there is some of that anti-incumbent leadership that dave brat played in on. >> it is something as with
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compromise, brat was able to use against cantor. >> and what we have seen emerge among grass roots conservative, not just tea parties. but to call them tea party republicans and give them that label, you have two choices. are you a governing conservative like john boehner and eric cantor you do try to cut the best deals with president obama or with senate democrats. or are you a ted cruz, more of a rand paul opposition conservative? more of a parliamentary position, where you think you're supposed to fight almost everything. mr. brat tonight wins running pretty much the campaign know matt bevin, mitch mcconnell's challenger in kentucky ran, he couldn't do that on a statewide basis. in his own state, rand paul, remember was the tea party upstart who beat mitch mcconnell's favorite candidate a couple of years back.
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mcconnell saw that coming, you're the deal maker, you would rather negotiate with president obama than sit down with your party. mr. brat was able to head it off. mr. cantor was not. major consensus of what i'll call more establishment strategists is that the tea party is going to claim victory here. that they didn't do so much, the organizations didn't do so much. this view this more as an indigenous revolt. >> this is a really important point, this really was a grass roots effort for mr. brat. >> there was some organic support, for example as i mentioned earlier, laura ingraham who is a conservative radio talk show host. she has made this kind of her cause. on twitter she even went down there to do a rally last week. i am sure that didn't help mr.
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cantor at all. but one thing i want to just report, first of all i should tell you when it comes to john boehner, everybody wants to know what he is saying. i've been waved off the idea we're going to get any statement from john boehner any time soon. so we can not look for that. but i've been told by two sources who may be familiar with the way that job thinks, any thought that he may retire after this next term handing the baton or the gavel over to eric cantor, is likely out the door. it is unlikely he will retire because there is nobody behind him who can get the kind of support that could really help. >> yeah, dana, thank you very much. we'll have more ahead. we'll be right back after a short break. everybody knows that. did you know there is an oldest trick in the book? what?
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♪ good to the last drop 56% to 44%, earlier today. a lot of people in eric cantor's campaign seemed to be saying they felt they were in the lead. a lot of people certainly were surprised by this. an earthquake some have called it in the republican party, certainly in the leadership of the republcan party.
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dave brat the winner of the gop primary in the state of virginia. what eric cantor will do next is not clear. we'll have a lot more continuing coverage, stay with cnn for election developments throughout the night. we'll be right back at 11 p.m. eastern, another edition of "ac360." and more on o.j. simpson's ride. the following is a cnn special report. >> 911, what are you reporting? >> i have o.j. simpson in the car. >> o.j. simpson on the run. >> the los angeles police department right now is searching for mr. simpson. >> and on the edge. >> he is still alive but he has a gun to his head. >> was that gun loaded? >> oh, yeah, a real gun, real bullets. >> and real drama. >> they're going through
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