. this is cnn breaking news. >> breaking news is political. this is cnn tonight. i'm don lemon breaking news. this something a lot of people never saw coming np in a stunning upsetteric cantor left to his tea party in the primary. the number two republican in the house. the man much of the gop records as most conservative remember of a house leadership. the man thought to be the next in line to be speaker. defeated by someone named dave brad, economic professor outside side of richmond. tonight's cnn's best political mind are here to tell us about

it and what it means to the political party and what it says about mid terms that are upcoming. tonight we want to know what you think as well. make sure to tweet us, be a part of this conversation. so let's get right to breaking news. eric cantor's stunning defeat. number one republican in the house losing to dave brat. dana brash our correspondent. brian stalter, senior media correspondent and host of reliable sources. and gloria boringer. and also dana bash. dana, oh, my gosh. can we say hello you-know-what on television. >> i asked that you before we went on. you said no. >> you can. >> i think our viewers get the point. you can see i'm speechless. it's not often that i'm speechless. and i am not alone in this town. the e-mails, tweets, texts, people at the highest levels.

people close to eric cantor. people on the rank and file of the republican party in the house, completely shocked. just to give you a sense of how little anybody expected this. eric cantor's own staff was very sure that they were going to be fine. saying, that this is just a press story. that this is just ginned up by people that want to make the tea party still have a life. guess what, they still have a life. a big life. and all of those stories we have done through the primary season so far, talking about the fact that tea party may be losing life because they haven't been able to beat an incumbent, that's over. it's a wrap for that. they have gotten the biggest head that they could possibly get at this point. that is the number two republican in the house. >> listen to this, isn't it the first rule of politics when you're running, never to underestimate your opponent, mike preston. and he pretty much had it locked

up. sharing with the washington post that cantor had 62% to 28%. how could that poll have been so wrong, mark preston? >> i've been on the phone all night talking to washington and virginia. they are laying the blame not only at eric cantor but at his political consultants. to your point, eric cantor wasn't tending to business back home. as one operative said to me a short time ago be it is difficult to be in the leadership at the same time representing your district. i think that's where we saw with eric cantor. he was trying to have it both ways. only a couple years ago, cantor was seen as the voice, so to speak, for the tea party within the leadership. the last couple years he seemed to be moderating his views a little bit. as someone said tonight, you can't have it both ways. live by the swortd, die by the sword. tonight eric cantor died by the sword. >> i want you to hear what eric

cantor had to say tonight about his loss, then we will talk. >> i believe in this country. i believe there's opportunity around the next corner for all of us. so i look forward to continuing to fight with all of you for the things that we believe in, for the conservative cause, because those solutions of ours are the answer to the problems that so many people are facing today. thank you all very, very much. >> gloria, what's your reaction? what did he do wrong? >> under are lots of things he did wrong. first, in talking to republicans tonight, who say to me, to a person, that this was a reputation of eric cantor personally, that he failed politics 101, which is to take in touch with your district. they point out that lindsay graham in south carolina won a primary tonight with 60% of the vote. one republican said to me, i'm going quote it here, measuring the drapes is never a good

strategy. which means he was next in line to become speaker. very ambitious. someone who spent a lot of time fund-raising fot republican party. one of the perils of leadership, especially since republican leadership sun popular with the base of the republican party. >> brian, conservative media. can the opponent, can dave brat, thank them for this victory? >> i think that has something to do with it. it was under the radar. that's why so many reporters,some of us were shocked tonight. but laura ingraham, for example, to name one talk radio host, was very supportive of brat. even held a rally for him in virginia. the top of her website said vote dave brat today. other radio hosts also supported him. i think they are going to be getting credit in days to come. tonight on fox news, megan kelly called ingraham instrumental in this victory. >> did they underestimate the power of supporters here?

>> i think maybe they overestimated the power of the kind of republican that would go out and vote for eric cantor. in a primary that people aren't used to being a part of in his district. primaries aren't common in his district. i know it sounds like we are getting into the weeds here but weeds matter in grass roots politics. particularly on this story. i described a little bit perhaps how overconfident the cantor people were. that clearly translated into what you got to do on election day. which is get your voters out. and they clearly didn't do that enough. and that is absolutely critical. another just anecdote i will tell you is that i'm told that the chamber of commerce, which is a big establishment group so to speak, that has gone in to help incumbents, they went to the cantor people and said, do you need us, and they were waved off by the cantor people.

they didn't see this coming. >> that's because the cantor people had $5 million and brat had what, 2 or $300,000. >> 300,000. >> right. one of the other mistakes they made is that they ran negative ads against someone that lots of people had never heard of. >> by putting his name in the negative ads, they made him popular. >> until those ads appeared. so there were issues. issues like immigration. under were issues like the government shut down. cantor was a member of the leadership who wanted to end the government shutdown, which was popular with the conservative base of the republican party. so there were issues and then there was, you know, political malpractice perhaps going. >> that's one of the norton story lines tonight about money. usually it wins races. 91% of the time the better finance committee wins. but then there is the other 9%.

>> what do we know about brat and the challenger he will face? >> here is the situation, we don't know much about him. i think at the top was the longest biography you could give on a candidate we know nothing about, necessarily. he is a college professor. he is going to win in november. democrats were hoping that eric cantor would run as write-in candidate, split the vote and they could pick up the seat. that's not going to happen. this is a very republican seat. let's take a step back and look at the national implications of this. er with talking about the majority of leader of the house of representatives taken out. which means have you an em boldened tea party. will we see a tea party candidate within the republican conference try to run. what does that mean for any kind of cooperation moving forward in the final two years of president obama's term. so there is lot of national implication. quite frankly, don, we talk about implication for republicans and how they are to the right.

there are democrats in a lot of red states right now. they have to be concerned that there is potentially a conservative base that will be energized by this and they could potentially help defeat the democrats. >> all right, everyone, hold on. the big position that might be behind eric cantor's stunning defeat could be about immigration. make sure you tweet us. s ] [ chuckles ] i'd do anything to keep this guy happy and healthy. that's why i'm so excited about these new milk-bone brushing chews. whoa, i'm not the only one. it's a brilliant new way to take care of his teeth. clinically proven as effective as brushing. ok, here you go. have you ever seen a dog brush his own teeth? the twist and nub design cleans all the way down to the gum line, even reaching the back teeth. they taste like a treat, but they clean like a toothbrush. nothing says you care like a milk-bone brushing chew. [ barks ]

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eric cantor lost in the primary. . the big question is, how did this all happen? could it all have come down to immigration? joining me now is director of the center for politics at university of virginia. also ben furgason, cnn's commentator. russell burrman, congressional reporter for the hill.com and jeffrey toobin. and leslie sanchez, author of "why hispanics and need each other." first, ben, did anyone predict this loss? >> i don't think anyone predicted it. but there were indications that this was possible over the last several weeks. when you saw the oldest sitting member of congress, he didn't

have a bad vote that people would reprimand him on. they just didn't think he was leading enough in congress. and he lost to, a lot of people say, a no-name. that's when people were like, holy cow. if that guy can lose after 30 plus years in congress, eric cantor can be a possibility after loss. and i think he took his seat for granted. he did not do what he needed to do in his district. he cared too much about being a gop established republican. and it lost him his job. he they said he's had a couple of bad races. not in this one. >> ann koultier had to say about republicans going forward. take a listen. >> caller: i wish it would have the effect of republicans coming forward and see it is a winning issue for the republicans. and not just with the republican base. we're talking about african-americans host the most by illegal immigration.

and just legal immigration, which is dumping 1.2 million low-wage workers on the country every year, through the laws of supply and demand. democrats love to talk about economic and equality, this is the reason for it since 1970. we need to care about americans first. >> russell, i probably should have induced that better. because dave brat rain campaign ads of cantor's willingness to work across the aisle on immigration. how bad did immigration hurt him? >> eric cantor was getting it from both sides on immigration. gu teeres was near his district a week ago criticizing him for not bringing up immigration reform thp pen we have dave brat. this is the issue that people like laura ingraham and mark levin brought up and said, this is why we need to get eric cantor out of office. so i think it was an animated

issue late in the race. brat accused cantor for the kids act which would affect the children of illegal immigrants. and eric cantor was forced to go really negative on immigration. he was adopting the language late in the race, that we typically hear from steve king, with illegal aliens and saying he would not support obama's amnesty plan. >> i think it was more simple than that. eric cantor forgot his job was to go to washington and fight for conservative ideas. that's what got him in trouble. he went there and all of a sid wanted to be speaker of the house. and his base, he left them behind. he did not take care of them. when you're hanging out with john boehner and losing to barack obama, who let's be honest, not exactly political prime right now, this is what happens when you don't pay attention at home. >> can we also discuss about

what alternative universe we are in where eric cantor was not conservative enough. maybe he didn't shut it down long enough but i think what this really illustrates is just how conservative the contemporary republican party is. this is frankly the happiest person in america tonight is hillary clinton. because this is who she's going to be running against in 2016. >> i disagree. >> and this is not america. >> i totally disagree. >> i bet you do. >> the reason i disagree is simply this. you're implying that eric cantor was somehow beat by some crazy tonight. he wasn't. he was beat by a principled conservative that didn't have close to the amount of money he had from big gop establishment, which is boring and dull and uninspiring and that's why he he lost. that's not scary. that's good for republicans. >> okay. everybody stand by. i have someone i want to bring in now.

that is none other than ann colter. this is said to be one of the big issues here is a crisis along the southern border. all of these children coming in from honduras and other countries. they say it is a crisis level. they are there and not being taken care of. they are in facilities they believe is sub mar. how much of that have to could with this if at all? >> i think it has a lot to do with it but not just today's story or yesterday's story. it's been going on for a while. and a lot of these not very bright republicans seem to think they sound compassionate by acting like we can take the entire world in. you know, if you look at the people of the world living in countries, poorer than mexico, we're talking about 5 billion people. where do they draw the line? i think it just comes down to who is going to speak for the american worker. there is income equality and it

has gone through the roof since 1970 because of immigration, both legal and illegal. it's the american worker who's suffering. as i pointed out a million times since the last election, mitt romney got an astonishingly high percentage of black male voters. 20% for republican, that is amazing. and i think it's because mitt romney was the only one speaking for the american worker and saying no to amnesty. >> i think it is very interesting that you say that. for many african-americans they are very conservatives when it comes to immigration. this is a place, ann, where conservatives and african-americans typically vote democratic, where they can meet, where they agree on something. >> i totally agree. and i think republicans are fool hearty to keep listening to the chamber of commerce and their big donors on this. being against amnesty is a winning issue with legal

hispanic voters. >> wow. >> if i can. >> go ahead, quickly. but i want to get larry in. >> okay. really. we have to take a strong position. i have to disagree with ann very much so on that. if republicans walk away from this and think that pro immigration reform is a way to win a gain, then we're going to see many more defeats along the lines of eric cantor. if you just look south, if you look to the south of governor -- excuse me, senator graham, who ran very pro immigration reform, took bold leadership in the stance and defeated many tea party interest with 5 the%, the logic doesn't make since.9 the%e logic doesn't make since.the%, logic doesn't make since.he%, t logic doesn't make since.e%, th logic doesn't make since.%, the logic doesn't make since. it people are frustrated with the establishment and other things going on. i think we are fool hearty to look just as this issue. >> larry, how big is amnesty in the upcoming election. >> by the way, don, it is a

great oversimplification to say what happened tonight is because of immigration and primarily because of immigration. cantor did lose touch with his district p. this has been building for years. he has a machine with operatives that are very tough and step on toes. you know, after a while, the human beings attached to the toes often will vote against you. let me mention one other thing that no one's brought up, and i don't think many people know, there was a strong outreach from the dave brat campaign to democrats. brat spokesman came to the largest counties -- >> we lost larry there. >> can i follow up on that? >> yeah. it as set he was helped by democrats, not conservatives. >> i was at the texas republican convention last week. the hostile in washington to the republican base is astonishing.

ted cruz, i think also a big winner to flight, he is defining himself as nonwashington candidate. the one that chamber of commerce, insiders, john mccain's, they don't like. today is a message that republican party is really in the hands of the ted cruzs of the world, not john mccain's. >> stick around, everyone. including ann koultier joining us by phone. when we come back, tea party versus gop. the mid term elections are in sight. that's next. like creamy chick. plus unlimited salad and breadsticks and dessert. 2 for $25 guest favorites at olive garden. ♪

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to tonight's breaking news, stunning upset in virginia for the stepping stone by the tea party. is it panic time for the gop establishment when it come to the number two man in the house that loses to an economics professor. back now with my guests. hey, ann, let's talk about this tea party versus gop. not too long ago, everyone was touting the death of the tea party. that tea party had run its course. >> it may well have. the tea party didn't have much to do with this election p. the tea party express is in favor of this amnesty. they are just shyster h of thesn now. this is a hundred percent about amnesty. someone just said, the tea party in texas, how it was so

anti-establishment and ted cruz is the winner here. ted cruz is from washington. whatever his -- and i love him, but that is technically part of the establishment. what was his speech at the texas tea party about? a speech denouncing amnesty. that's what people don't like about the establishment. this cozy relationship with the chamber of commerce to the detrimental to the american worker. >> ann, what are you saying? you say people don't like amnesty. you cannot round up millions of people and send them back. you're not suggesting this, are you? >> no. but no one is suggesting that. in fact all these polls showing americans allegedly supporting a pathway to citizenship have written about this. they are completely phony polls. they can two things and on boj sides no one is proposing. no one is proposing rounding up 11 million people. they want employer sanctions, we didn't round up 11 million people to get them here. we won't have to round them up to get them home. but you cut off the employers

and they're the ones pushing for amnesty. big business, agri business, chamber of commerce, american worker does not want any more immigration, legal or illegal. >> who is saying amen there? >> that was me. the reason i said amen is there is a couple of things to simplify this. and that is it. what people seem to be missing is this is grass roots. when you have eric cantor lose, it is because he doesn't listen to what people want. people want job security and take care of americans first. that was an, issue. but when you have the operatives deal with the people in your district, oh, you take your phone calls, you e-mail them back, i'm too busy for that. i'm this big dog in the gop. the way eric cantor, john mccain have acted, you get your rear end eventually. john mccain got his butt kicked for the presidency. he got his brains kicked in, because he was the establishment

guy, even though it hurt him here. even though the tea party people might be dead, it is just as powerful as the group in the district with the establishment, they become the tea party, that's how they won on the local level. it is not national tea party getting this done. >> russell, what does it tell us that most republicans view cantor as most conservative in the lineup and yet he was ousted. >> this goes to a specific issue in which there are always questions about his authenticity and i this i this election speaks to thap p if you compare his support even within the house republican conference, even john boehner, who you would not consider to be conservative, john boehner is a back/slapper. he has close friends, and i think that translates into loyalty among constituents. eric cantor hasn't been that type of politician. he has been seen as calculating. you can see it when talking about immigration in the later

stages of his campaign. he totally changed his tone, if not his position, in the last few days. it spoke to larger disenchantment that voters had, as larry mentioned, probably developed over a number of years. >> larry, should we expect a radical change in the gop leadership because of this? >> well, there's going to be a different speaker after john boehner, that's for sure. >> i think you know, there's a lot of politicking going on in washington, as far as that's concerned. but look, so many things said are accurate but only part of the picture. partly immigration. partly disconnect that cantor developed with his own district. it was partly the fact that he was identified incredibly as the moderate. i think jeff mentioned that, you know, he's considered very conservative by any normal measures. but there was another is a

factor i was trying to point out, no one knows about this, but a major outreach to democrat in that district. 43% of that district is demic. you had brat operatives going to democratic committees on election eve, go together polls to ask them to get rid of eric cantor. nothing to do with dave brat. there were robo cops telling democrats, come out to the polls, you can vote. which is true, we have an open primary. get rid of eric cantor. it is more complicated once you go below the surface. >> that's a key point. i was in district last week and there was talk about maybe there is this organized effort to get democrats. they did not field the candidate in this case. that's why dave brat in all likelihood will be a congressman come november. come january. >> oh, there is a democrat. there is a democrat. >> randolph makin college is

nominee. >> very quickly. >> but there's one issue here. the democrats knew they weren't going to win this district. that's the reason why we are even is there a democratic candidate or not. make no mistake about it, the democrats did not elect him tonight and beat eric cantor. the republicans on the grass roots level did this because they wanted a change and eric cantor was on the list just like boehner's on the list. >> point taken. we will get to leslie and jeffrey on the other side. i want you to hear what the democrats are saying tonight. so larry, thank you very much. everyone else make sure to stay with me. coming right back. we will talk about this as well. another deadly shooting. and an angry president obama calls out congress.

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eric cantor lost his primary race tonight in a stunning upset. my panel is back with us. okay, since everyone hogged air time last break, i'm giving jeffrey and leslie in on this

one. jeffrey to you first. here is what the head of the dnc said. the tea party has taken control of the republican party, period. then goes on to say when eric cantor when time and time again blocked common sense legislation to grow the middle class can't earn the republican nomination, it is clear the gop redefined far right. what do you make of that? >> it is a very conservative party and it is the case where immigration reform is dead for this congress. after we can argue about how much of a factor it was in cantor's defeat but clearly part of the story here. so we're going to head into the 2014 election and very likely into the 2016 election with 60 plus percent of the american people supporting immigration reform and republicans in the house and senate blocking it. that's not a good political position to be in for the republicans. for. >> leslie, what do you make of debbie wasserman's statement? >> i think that that's the democrats are trying to spin

this. the reality is that, yes, immigration reform was an issue. but the big take away is that eric cantor had two sides on this ush u and the american -- and the voters are smarter than that. he was pro immigration reform and then as we've heard from our guests, he moved against it and was saying that he is against amnesty and we're seeing many of the mailing pieces, talking about illegal aliens against amnesty. you can't talk from both sides of your mouth and expect voters to take you seriously. and it had a significant impact. republicans cannot walk -- i can just finish my point. republicans can't walk away from this and think oh we have to champion, you know, any idea that pushes, you know, prevents amnesty and that's our winning ticket when we can see consistn'tly across the country there be other races that proves to be wrong. >> jeffrey, go ahead. >> leslie, how can you -- you are support immigration reform. your party has been stopping it

for years. it'll stop it even more. how can you live like that? >> thank you for asking. what a nice question. i would say that there is tremendous frustration in republican circles. republicans are not advancing this. every major immigration reform that happened is because republicans managed to do so. there are many elements of reform that republicans and democrats, conservative democrats, latino voters, agree on, including border enforcement. including penalizing employers hiring undocumented workers. but is the issue of citizenship and once you get into the dirty details is when it all unravels. i don't think there's a lot of faith that president will move and use political capital or the democrats are. no one is talking about the 2 million people deportation, high 2 million deported under this presidency. so there is so much inconsistency on the right and left. i think people are frustrated.

>> ben furgason, how can you live with yourself? >> it's easy. i sleep well every night. this is political bs, to be blunt. you have democrats that want to bring in the new voters p. they do that by giving them amnesty. you have republicans that say, it's pointless. to do anything if we're not going to secure the border because we will have the same ush u because people keep coming across the border. we have seen that play out in arizona with all of the illegal children coming across the border without parent. they are dropped off at a bus stop. that's how bad the border is right now. and saying, go wherever you want to go. we do it everyday. so it is not that issue is that republicans are against having a deal, they're just not dumb enough to say let's give amnesty without fixing the border because we will be right back here in another decade with more people across the border and we didn't fix anything except for mick ourselves feel better about it. >> okay. stand by. more eric can'tor just coming in. let's listen.

>> obviously we can't up short. there are so many people i want it thank. first of all, i want to thank my wife, diana.tit thank. first of all, i want to thank my wife, diana.oit thank. first of all, i want to thank my wife, diana.t thank. first of all, i want to thank my wife, diana. thank. first of all, i want to thank my wife, diana. who's put up with me in elected politics now for 20-something years. and in the process, raised our kids. one of whom is here tonight. the other two are off working. my mother-in-law, mother, brothers, because it all starts with family. we know that. so i want to thank them. and then to all of you, so many you've who not only today spent endless hours in the heat with your undying loyalty and effort, i want to thank you for that as well. and i tell you, absolutely.

[ applause ] it's not only the hundreds of volunteers here, it is also, you know, my team. both my team that have served the constituents of the district, here in the district office have been continuing to serve the 7th district constituents in washington and culpepper. but also my political team. they have put in so much extraordinary work to try and win this campaign but have done so for the last decade or more. so i want to thank them and. now, serving as seventh district congressman and then having the privilege to be majority leader, has been one of the highest honors of my life. and you know, what i set out to

do and what the agenda that i have always said we're about is we want to create in virginia and american that works for everybody. and we need to focus our efforts as conservatives, as republicans, on putting forth our conservative solutions so that they can help solve the problems. for so many working middle class families that may not have the opportunity that we have. we can also put our solutions to work -- >> eric cantor speaking earlier tonight. obviously the, you know, stock concession speech. but it sounded to me, and maybe i'm wrong, that hey, i'm done with this. is he done, you think, or can he run as solo candidate coming up? or do you think it's over for him? >> i think this is certainly a shock for him an he will need to take some time to digest this. as we talked about, they were very confident, at least

outwardly in chances for victory. he he is a young guy still, relatively for politics. 51 years old. and i think certainly, you know, if he wants to continue in politics, you know, there's a come back to be had at some point down the line. it is interesting to see, does he try to run a write-in campaign in this election. he didn't mention that. he didn't give any indication that he was leaning that way. but certainly, i think there will be more to say in days to come. >> don, virginia has a sore loser rule. >> quick. >> he can't run anything except a write-in candidate. and two randolph macon professors will take up the vote. >> how can you live with yourselves were fo for coming on here. thank you. i appreciate all of you. up next, more on the stunning upset in the primary season so far.

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who is coming across?te now. who is coming across?e now. who is coming across? now. who is coming across? >> don, what we're seeing is an influx of children and mothers and babies. what we've seen since memorial day, the past two weeks, when i say children coming on, i don't mean little children. i mean teenagers coming by themselves and mothers with their babies. the reason they tell us they are coming is two-fold. one because of increasing violence in central american, guatemala, honduras, el salvador. very few mothers are coming from mexico. they are trying to cross the border and the rule in the united states is if children or mothers and children come, they don't automatically get sent back to countries that are not contiguous to the united states. if they are not connected like canada and mexico, they know that, they are sick of the violence and they are coming here in big numbers. >> this is supposed to be a big, u coming up in november. it is estimated that, it had been an average of about 6,000

kids. and this year, they are estimating it will be thousands more of children coming across pause they are trying to beat the amnesty date in. >> thousands more. but the main reason, don, i mean, that's been out there a long time, that it's easy to get into the country. relatively easy if you are a child or mother with a child. what we are told by the mothers we're talking to is that things are getting so violent in el salvador and things are so violent in the south american countries, they don't want their children living there. here, there is a good clans tha they can stay. they play coyotes thousands of dollars to cross the borders and get into the united states. they are willing to take the risk for the chance to stay here the rest of their lives. >> eric cantor is coming to terms with the stunning loss tonight, the stunning defeat. some wonder what this means for the run-off in mississippi. who better to talk about all of this, bill richardson.

and pete hookser. good to see both of you gentlemen. pete, you first, where does this lead the republican party? >> you coming to me? >> yeah, pete. >> sorry, thank you. i think, you know, don't read too much into this election other than, you think it is every republican in washington ought to take notice. outspent 15-1, given little clans of winning, number one, i think is reputation of washington. people are frustrated and totally sick of a washington that doesn't work. so republicans and democrats ought to be concerned about that. and the second message i read into this is eric cantor probably lost with the people back home. tonight, lindsay graham won with an overwhelming margin. he stayed in touch. eric cantor did not. >> so governor, bill richardson, some are saying this is -- that

it has everything to do with immigration. other say don't overplay that. you're former governor of new mexico, where does this leave reform? >> this is a bad day for reform. the leader is traditionally in charge of scheduling legislation. if the speaker and majority leader were saying at one point they were ready to send some peace mill legislation, i would say it isn't a death mill but doesn't look good for immigration reform. it may be a victory for the pea party tonight, but i think for the republican party long-range, even then the elections this coming fall, the 2014, i think that democrats are probably going to keep the senate now because this is going to be a terrible message to hispanic voters from the republican party. and you know, these people that are talking about amnesty

caused -- first of all it is an amnesty. it takes 13 years in a path to citizenship and you have to pass a background check, learn english. that's fallacy number one. number two, border security. there are more border agents. there is less border immigration coming in. and it is happening in arizona with chrn exploited by coyotes and is because we have a broken immigration system. and the republican party there are a lot of evangelicals, business leaders that want to see immigration reform. i think what the tea party is doing is they are driving a huge wedge within the republican party that is going to cause them to lose seats this coming november. and i think certainly for a presidential election in 2016, remember, this country is a

moderate country. a middle of the road country. this is an election in rural virginia in a district that's very conservative. >> but an election that involved one of the biggest leaders of the gop. and that is eric cantor. one of the most conservative. and that's why people are paying so much attention. and people are saying, the tea party is over. when they talk about what this meant for um gracing, do you think that the republicans concerned with losing the hispanic vote for generations because of issues like this. >> i don't think so at all. i hope democrats go to bed saying this is the death nail for republicans taking back the senate. this is a reputation of washington. the symbol of who is in charge in washington today is harry reid and the united states senate. president obama in the white house. when i won in 1992, two years later we have the wave of 1994. it went a reputation of guy

vander jack. it was a reputation of washington. the same thing you are seeing that is a warning to republicans and democrats. get your stuff in order and start solving problems in washington. if you don't solve problems in washington, we will take out the lead e.r.ship and there are no stronger symbols of leadership in washington than harry reid and president obama. >> 10 seconds, governor. >> harry reid and the president were aren't the ballot. this so defeat, a local defeat, for a congressman moving to the center who probably lost touch with his district. >> that's going to be have to, it -- >> that's going to have to be the last word. governor, thank you very much. i'm up against a hard break. i appreciate both of you. thanks for joining me tonight. when we come back, we will talk more about tonight's news of cantor's primary defeat.

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breaking news, the reaction to tonight's breaking news, eric cantor estunning defeat in virginia. brian sulter joins me now with his reaction to what's going on. brian, how do you read this? >> the best three tweets of the night. the editor and chief of roll call says, it is not often you get to shred tomorrow's front page. hate to be wrong but so little is surprising in politics these

days. imagine a restaurant getting half a star on yelp. then imagine people being surprised when people get fired. that's congress. then cnn's congressional producer. predicted this was going to happen. yesterday he expected to win and he would see a cnn van in his drive way tonight. i think he is right about that. >> br >> brian, thank you. we are back with tonight's news. it is n a stunning upsetteric cantor lost to his tea party opponent in the primary. number two republican in the house. the man much of the gop regards as the most conservative in the leadership. the man thought to be next in line to be speaker defeated by dave brat, economics professor at randolph macon kol j outside richmond. tonight some of the best minds in politics are here to break it all