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these suspects had with police, the most alarming one was in february 2014 when count are terrorism officer rz actually interviewed the suspects at their apartment. but at that point they said that when they spoke to them, no red flags were raised to officers. >> i just can't believe we're having this conversation again, that this couple actually had an encounter with counter terror law enforcement prior to this incident. that news conference, the headline being that ultimately that female shooter did not shoot her husband. she shot herself. the police were able to finally take down the husband after they took down two fellow officers and another innocent bystander. thanks for watching. i'm ashleigh banfield. wolf blitzer takes over right now. defense secretary chuck hagel in the hot seat.
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lawmakers are grilling him on the deal to get bergdahl back and whether that puts american lives at risk. the republican party is reeling from eric cantor's surprise primary loss. why did he lose? what does it mean for the future of the gop? california scrapping tenure laws that protect grossly ineffective teachers. they say it's good for the kids and education. critics say it turns teachers into scapegoats. we will hear from both sides this hour. i'm wolf blitzer reporting from washington. on capitol hill, defense secretary chuck hagel is explaining the prisoner swap that frees army sergeant bowe bergdahl from the taliban in exchange for five terrorists. did the u.s. give up too much? hagel stood firm before the house armed services committee.
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he called the deal legal, the right thing to do. hagel phased a tough exchange over the release of the five and the risks of having to capture them again. >> the intelligence community has said clearly that these five are not a threat to the homeland. >> mr. secretary, you have said it here that if they rejoined the fight, they do it at their own peril. >> in afghanistan. >> my question is a simple one. would we put american lives at risk to go after them? yes or no? >> we have american lives put at risk -- >> i understand that, mr. secretary. my question is, will we put american lives at risk to go after these individuals if they rejoin the fight? >> yes. >> okay. if that's the case -- let me ask two other questions. >> you could use the same argument -- >> i could do that, but not because of individuals we released. >> let's bring in our national
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security correspondent and barbara star. did the secretary of defense make the case effectively for justifying the swap? >> i think you can come to the judgment, as we often do, that probably in congress no minds were changed. everybody who went into that room was for or against and probably comes out of that room for or against. it did, by every measure, get quite testy on several points. one on, was not telling congress about it legal? hakle went on to say, in hindsight, maybe the government could have informed congress. that point got very testy. but i want to play an exchange here. extraordinary, one of the most extraordinary moments was with congressman jeff miller, a republican of florida, who chairs the house veterans committee, actually questioning whether bowe bergdahl should still be in the hospital in germany. have a listen.
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>> what we are doing is we are allowing -- >> wait a minute. wait a minute. why hasn't he been returned to the united states? we have seriously wounded soldiers that are returned to the united states almost immediately after they are stabilized. how long did jessica lynch wait before she was returned to the united states? you are trying to tell me that he's being held in germany because of his medical condition? >> congressman, i hope you're not implying anything other than that. >> i'm just asking the question. >> i'm going to give you an answer. i don't like the implication. >> answer it. >> he's being held there because our medical professionals don't believe he is ready until they believe he is ready to take the next step. >> you have ever seen a traumatically injured service member brought to the united states immediately upon being
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stabilized? we do it all the time. >> i'm not sure in 13 years of covering the war i have ever heard such an exchange between congress and any secretary of defense about whether the military is holding an injured service member at a hospital. of course, the answer to this is that bowe bergdahl is under going a repatriation process, a medical and psychological series of events that will take some time. u.s. officials say for him to recover for this is a very set procedure for the return of hostages and captives to open society. i exchanged communication a little while ago with a top hakle aide who said the secretary is very unhappy about this line of questioning. it is worth remembering, politics aside, chuck hagel himself is a wounded veteran of vietnam. he is very unhappy at anyone
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questioning the veracity of u.s. military medical care. >> because -- i want to pick up the thought with jim. the implication being that for some political reason they don't want bergdahl to speak to anyone, so they're keeping him in germany. >> it's a remarkable charge to make. i will echo barbara's thoughts, i got similar communication with the pentagon about that particular exchange. i think you see him here in an unyielding, sometimes impassioned defense, of this decision by the administration. he makes a legal case. he have calls bergdahl a p.o.w. he said this was a negotiation between caring sides at war. we did not negotiate with terrorists. one of the other exchanges was one someone challenged him to say, did you negotiate with the haqqani organization? he said, no, we let the qataries play intermediary. he wants this to be a negotiation between warring
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parties to secure the release of a soldier. he makes a political case, apologizing, off script, saying we broke trust by not keeping congress better informed and admitting they could have done a better job. but making an emotional case in defending bergdahl, not just in the exchange with jeff miller but also clearly bristling at the criticism that the bergdahl family has faced, saying he is shocked and disappointed at that. also for bergdahl himself saying, he has not been accused of anything. he has never been charged with anything. we will go through that process. at this point, we have a wounded soldier that we have to take care of. real passion there. as barbara says, from a fellow soldier, a fellow wounded soldier. >> very passionate indeed. another huge story we are following right now, shock weavs after the stunning defeat of
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eric cantor. will it reinvigorate the tea party? will it be the final blow for immigration reform this year? brat says his win is about returning power to the people. . >> the race is simply, when i go to d.c., every vote will move the pendulum in the direction of the people away from washington, d.c. back to the states, back to the low kalts and back to you. >> cantor is looking ahead, even though his political future is murky. >> forward to continuing to fight with all of you for the things that we believe in, for the conservative cause, because those solutions are the answer to the problems that so many people are phasie in facing tod. thank you very much. >> let's bring in our panel.
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dana, you have breaking news for us. what you have learned? >> that's right. this has first been reported by "the washington post." a house republican source confirmed that house majority leader eric cantor plans to step down from his post as majority leader at the end of july. that means he is going to allow a race to replace him to happen before next year. that is something that has been debated all morning long. actually, since last night, whether or not it is best for the majority leader to stay in his position and do so through the end of the year or whether to step back now and whether that is the message -- those are the messages from the election results tonight. it seems as though he has made the decision to step aside sooner than his -- never mind his term in the house seat but his term as majority leader would allow him to. >> he is not going to run as a
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third party candidate as a write in either. he will no longer be the majority leader at the end of july. gloria you have a piece you have written. what happened here? this was a huge, huge upset. >> wolf, this is one of the perils of becoming a leader, which is that you very often lose touch with the people back home. i think what happened to eric cantor is that he didn't see this coming for whatever reason. he is somebody with a lot of ambition who was seen as a potential next speaker of the house. i was talking to a republican strategist who said measuring the drapes is never a good strategy. it certainly didn't work for him this time. the charge was, as always is with leaders, that you are oust touch. the irony here, of course, is that eric cantor was the most conservative member of the
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republican leadership. he was a real thorn in the white house's side during the 2011 budget negotiations. but as a leader he wanted to find a way to end the government shutdown, and that caused him a lot of problems within the tea party, as did his leadership position on trying to enact one part of immigration reform. so you put it all together, it was a perfect storm for an insurgent. >> on that issue of immigration reform, he was willing to come up with some sort of compromise as far as the so-called dreamers are concerned, the young kids who came here illegally brought by their parents, they have grown up. this is the only country they have known. he was open to finding a path way to legal residency and eventual citizenship for these dreamers, if you will. does this mean his loss right now that any notion of comprehensive immigration reform for all practical purposes is
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dead? >> wolf, i think this is the fifth or sixth time this year that i have heard the announcement of the death of immigration reform only toe see it peter back to life. i think we are misreading the immigration issue. the problem with eric cantor was not his position. it was that he ran away from his position. i can tell you that for the last three or four months, i have been getting nothing but complaint calls from immigration advocates who were frustrated and angry with eric cantor. this idea of him being a champion and a leader on immigration is news to many of us who want immigration reform. he had been waffling. he had been sitting on the fence. what voters want is leadership. look at what happened in south carolina with lindsay graham. he owned his position. he defended it. he explained it to the voters of south carolina.
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what they saw was the leadership that eric cantor did not demonstrate in virginia. >> i agree. this is going to get overread by republicans who are going to run away from it. >> hold on for a moment. i want all three of you to stick around. we have more to discuss. up next, we will take a closer look at the democratics of why eric cantor lot of and how brat won. public school teachers could soon feel the effect of a court ruling in california spelling out when teachers can be fired and when they can't. colace® capsules, for comfortable relief from occasional constipation, announces the $50,000 spa wellness give-away. couldn't you use a spa treatment? visit colacespa.com to win weekly! and now you get hit again.asis. this time by joint pain.
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representatives? take a closer look at dave brat's defeat of cantor. how it was won and how it was lost. >> look at this district that cantor has here. this is a hugely republican conservative area. there's no reason that he should be beaten on the right, but he was. it really could come down to three things. first of all, way too much d.c., not enough virginia. gloria made reference to this a little while ago. they felt eric was too focused on becoming the next speaker of the house, too focused on great big washington issues, too focused on being part of the washington elite and that he wasn't paying enough attention to the people back home. case in point, he spent primary day in washington largely, not in virginia. that sent a message. people did not like it. beyond that, what else was in play here? there may have been overconfidence.
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there were indications that he might be in trouble. the conservative base was furious with him. they want answers on all sorts of things. the camp did not substantially respond. they spent a ton of money on this race compared to brat. in all, when you look at the votes, cantor spend about $100 per vote. brat spent about $5 per vote. that led the cantor camp into believing ce ining he could not beaten. third, really, the influence of the tea party. all sorts of pun dants have been saying, the right conservative district this plays into the tea party's strength. they did not come in with national money for brat. what they do have though is this thing that has united tea party people and their sympathizers all over, a grass-roots movement
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which says we're standing up against washington insiders. and they said, cantor is as inside as they come. brat came out the winner. those three things are one of the reasons that cantor is reassessing everything in his political life. >> thanks. let's bring back our panel. gloria, what is cantor's loss sig any fife about the republican party right now? >> i think the republican party has been quite successful as a congressional party because districts have been so gerrymandered that this worked to their advantage in a way. if you can siphon off issues and win in a republican district, that works for them. as a national presidential party, i think it's much more of a problem. when you are a presidential party, you have to appeal to independent voters. if you want to do that, you have to find some way to come
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together on issues like immigration reform, which would attract hispanic voters, for example, younger voters. i think that the republican party has a problem that way. >> i think you are right. dana, you reported the news cantor will step down as majority leader, the number two republican in the house of representatives july 31st. there will be an election in the house, i assume. who will be the majority leader? what are you hearing? >> well, we're pretty certain that kevin mccarthy, who is the number three, the house majority whip, is going to throw his hat in the ring. another republican who is the chairman of the rules committee, pete sessions, strongly suggests he might be in. another republican, who is conservative, jeb henterling says he knows that people are talking about that people want him to put his hat in the ring.
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there's going to be a race. there is going to be a race for that post. the hope, at least as you can imagine inside the republican leadership, particularly for kevin mccarthy, is that he will get it. stand by one second. mr. mccarthy, you can come and talk to us? speaking of the devil, that was kevin mccarthy. i was going to tell you that there are going to be lots of house members walking by. i'm in the corridor between the suite of leadership offices, including eric cantor's office, and the house floor. we're hoping to see eric cantor. we haven't seen him all day today. went in a door he doesn't usually go in to avoid us. i don't blame him. we're waiting for him now. that answers your question. then if kevin mccarthy does get that job, his job is going to be open. we will have a lot of the toing and froing inside leadership
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races. i was getting the vibe from lots of republican sources that this might be the tack that cantor was going to take. the feeling was he was worried if he, in fact, doesn't step down that maybe there would be a revolt in the republican conference. that would cause leadership elections across the board. that would mean boehner would potentially have to be re-elected and so forth. that's why i i this he decided to do it so it happened in an ordinarily way. >> it shows you how much politics can change literally overnight. some people were speculating eric could be the next speaker of the house. very few, if anyone, thought he didn't have a chance of getting himself re-elected this time around, a pretty conservative republican district. everyone seemed to think he was going to get that nomination. didn't work out well for him. anna, why did this tea party challenger win this election, especially given the fact that i
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don't think he got any real support from national tea party groups, certainly no financial support, did he? >> you know, wolf, i think it's funny and i think we're misreading it again, we keep calling him a tea party candidate, when he himself doesn't call himself a tea party candidate. he was speaking last night and got asked that question. he said, yes, i got a lot of tea party support. but i don't see this as a left and right issue. i got a lot of republican support. i stand on republican principals. he got no money from national tea party groups. what this guy did was he walked, he talked with people. he knocked on doors. he did a grass-roots campaign while eric cantor was in washington not lining up the votes in his district but lining up the votes to be speaker. that was the problem. you had in eric cantor a guy who was out of touch, more interested in the leadership race, who was, frankly, running
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a campaign that should be called professional negligence. they were 45 points off on their poles. their internal polls had them 34 points up. they ended up losing by 11. that tells you they were living in a parallel universe, drinking washington-laced kool-aid. >> anna helping us appreciate what's going on -- >> now you know why they call it "house of cards," right? >> that's what it is. quick question. maybe dana you know the answer to this. you spent time in that district. there's some speculation that democrats in that district could have voted, this is an open contest, in that congressional primary and they don't like eric cantor, to play a mischievous role. a lot of democrats voted against him. i keep hearing people speculate that that may have played a
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significant role. >> the answer is, we don't know. it is a possibility, because as you said, it's an open primary system in virginia. if you walk up and you say you went to vote, they say which party, which party's primary? you tell them the answer. that's the end of it. so that means that it's a little bit hard to track. it is possible -- i can tell you in talking to some cantor sources throughout the day today, they said that it is something they're going to look into. i saw a report that perhaps mr. cantor's strategists may help explain why their numbers are off. it's possible but will take a long time of forensic going through it to figure out if that's actually true. >> i suspect that there are going to be forensic political experts looking into this part of the story as well. thanks very much. what role did talk radio play in
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cantor's defeat? michael standing by to join us. we will discuss that. we will find out what his radio listeners have been saying today. (mother vo) when i was pregnant... i got more advice than i knew what to do with. what i needed was information i could trust on how to take care of me and my baby. luckily, unitedhealthcare has a simple program that helps moms stay on track with their doctors and get the right care and guidance-before and after the baby is born. simple is good right now. (anncr vo) innovations that work for you. that's health in numbers. unitedhealthcare. ugh. heartburn. did someone say burn? try alka seltzer reliefchews.
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michael, you finished your radio show. what was it, three hours i take it? what did you hear from your listeners? >> i think most interesting is what didty hear from listenering who called and purported to be from the eric cantor district? i think neglect is what i heard, much many line with what your guests were saying, they thought this was an individual whose eye had been taken off of the district, was on a national platform and maintaining his position and becoming speaker than service at home. no better than him having awakened and been at a fund-raising in washington on the day of the election instead of being in the district. >> i want to play a clip for you, michael. this is eric cantor last month. he was obviously going after his republican challenger dave brat, a university economics
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professor. listen to what he said. listen to the reaction from the crowd in virginia. >> it is easy to sit in the rarefied environments of ak dame ya, in the ivory towers of a college campus with no accountability and no consequence. [ booing ] >> he is getting boos. a little bit of applause. a lot of people weren't paying attention to that reaction. i guess with hindsight we should have been paying a lot more attention. >> you know, the play book says if you are running on the right, you are supposed to talk about the liberal members. by no one's stretch of the administration would dave brat fall in that category. >> what was the role that talk radio played, do you believe, in
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this race? some talk radio stars clearly don't like eric cantor. >> i think it played a significant role. i came of age politically and involved in an era when getting out the vote on primary day meant you went door to door with a street list under the direction of a committee person or a ward leader and you asked people to go out and cast a ballot. that function has been completely super planted by the world of talk radio and on the right by fox. that is the gop apparatus now. when you have the likes of mark levin or laura ingran who are banging the drum for the opponent of the eric cantor, it matters. especially when we are talking about 12% coming out on a p prima primary. they are the most eye delogically driven voters. how do you reach them? not with a street list?
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you reach them through the airwaves. >> let me recommend your radio show. thanks for joining us. a possible seat change in public education. california's rules for firing teachers have been struck down as unconstitutional. it could have consequences in your local school system. we will explain. this is the first power plant in the country to combine solar and natural gas at the same location. during the day, we generate as much electricity as we can using solar. at night and when it's cloudy, we use more natural gas. this ensures we can produce clean electricity whenever our customers need it. ♪
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teachers' unions are vowing to fight back after a california judge struck down the state's rules for keeping and firing teachers. the judge heard evidence that removing one ineffective teacher can take up to ten years and cost nearly $500,000. athee na jones is covering this. this could affect school systems in california but elsewhere as well. >> that's right. this was brought by nine public school students. they were backed by an education reform group. this ruling, which i have right here, it's being called a landmark decision. it could have an impact in california and far beyond california. this was framed as a civil rights issue. the judge cited another landmark decision we know about, brown versus board of education in agreeing with the plaintiffs in this case that the way california hires and fires its teacher rz is unconstitutional. it violates students' rights to equal access to an education. this affects poor and minority
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students. the supporters are calling it a victory for students. unions are saying it's scapegoating teachers. the issue is that the way california grants tenure is much shorter than many other states. it takes about two years or a little less to decide whether a teacher gets those big strong lifetime protections, job protections. also this case addresses the fact that it makes it hard to get rid of teachers in california, as you mentioned, it can take up to ten years. also the rules about last one hired first one fired when it comes to budget cuts. they put seniority ahead of teacher quality when it comes to getting rid of teachers. this has been a closely watched case. what's next? this group, i spoke to them today, they are already talking to about a dozen other states looking at bringing similar cases in states like new york, connecticut, maryland and minnesota. this is going to be a case that's closely watched. they will appeal it. unions will appeal it. this group will continue to fight it.
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this is not the end. >> nothing is more important than our kids' education. having good teachers is critical. the education secretary is among those applauding this ruling in california. he called it a mandate to fix the system. let's bring in john, the superintendent of the los angeles unified school districts. you are happy about this decision? you think it's going to help kids. give us your immediate reaction. >> i'm very pleased. i think this is a historic day for students' rights here in california. i think it is a very pro public school, very pro teacher and very pro student decision. the same rights that teachers justly deserve, those rights are now clearly being provided for the youth. particularly youth who have lived in circumstances of poverty. >> the judge's ruling was staied pending an appeal from the teacher's union.
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will this ruling stand? where do we go from here? >> i think -- i hope what happens is that we form a coalition of strong labor leaders and our legislators and immediately get to rewriting laws that are just and legal. these laws are -- have been found to be unconstitutional. it's incumbent upon us to work as quickly as possible to set a craft of laws that are able to hold the same rights that teachers justly deserve with rights for students. >> what do you say to the teachers unions -- we will hear the other side shortly -- to the teachers unions who say this is unfair to teachers, they have washged hard, they deserve to have the seniority, they deserve to have their jobs protects? >> absolutely. great teacher rz deserve to have their jobs protects. this is very pro teacher in a number of ways. one, california has a very, very short period of time, it's about 13 to 14 months to determine if we're going to award tenure,
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which i believe teachers justly deserve tenure. but it's a ridiculously short period of time. we don't finish providing the professional development to support new teacher rz before you have to make the decision to keep them. the judge on this phase of the ruling is that it's absurd to have that period of time. you need a longer period of time to take into account all of the great work that teachers do to make that decision. >> how long she they have to be a teacher before they qualify to be tenured? >> i think that we would find it very reasonable and teachers would, anywhere between three and five years. allow us to have a period of time to work and support teach bre ers before we make this important decision. >> if they have three to five years, they're tenured, they're doing a good job, they get t tenure. what if they decide to coast after that? i have tenure. i'm not going to do as good a
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job. what do you do to a teacher then? >> i don't find many teachers who behave that way. >> what if they do? >> if we find teachers who can't teach, students can't learn, then they need to be removed and be remrofed in a very fair process but one that does flot cost a district millions where we should invent that in students and in teacher raises and one that happens quicker. >> thanks very much for your perspective. good luck, as i lake to sike to nothing is more important than our kids. why teachers unions oppose this ruling in california and what they are now planning to do about it.
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firing teachers is the is good news to the former chancellor of public schools. teachers unions have lost sight of what's most important in the classroom. >> the union's job is to protect the rights and pay of their members. they want their members to keep their jobs regardless. what this judge is saying is that we have to look out for the interests of children first and foremost, that we have to ensure that there's a high quality teacher in front of every child every single day. the reality is that these things should not be seen at odds with one another. we can see this as a real opportunity to create a new paradigm in which we are elevating the teaching profession but we're protecting the rights of kids. >> randy is the president of the american federation of teachers which represents about one and a half billion teachers, educators nationwide. randy, why is michelle, ernie, the courts in california wrong and the teachers unions that you
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represent right? >> because everybody wants to have great schools for our kids. everybody's impulse, i hope, is to have great schools for our kids. >> why shouldn't school districts be able to fire a bad teacher? they should be. >> but it's so difficult, ten years, half a million dollars. why does it have to be so difficult for a teacher not he educating kids? >> it shouldn't be difficult. >> how do you fix this in. >> this was what the court did was the wrong solution. >> why? >> for some of the right problems. >> why? >> because at the end of the day, with he all need great teachers. it's not the only thing we need. we need to look at other things. >> how do you fix the problem? if teachers havetenure, it's hard to fire them. >> we need a pipeline into teaching because teachers leave because they don't have the
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conditions they need. you are absolutely right, that in a teacher cannot teach, they should be fired effectively and quickly. that's why you need to have real evaluations. >> but the unions make it difficult to fire a teacher. california, you heard the testimony, ten years, half a million dollars to fire a teacher. >> and then there was also testimony -- this case is going to be appealed. there's testimony in california that said that districts that are working together like abc, laguna beach, never have these problems. look at what happened in new york. when we saw the extensive time it was taking, the union and even michael bloom berg got together and said, we're going to cut that time. >> what's the time in new york? how long does it take to fire a teacher? >> three to six months. >> do they get paid? >> unless there is terrible offense that they are accused of, they get paid. >> what about getting tenure. we heard three to five years as opposed to one and a half years. is that acceptable? >> at the end of the day, the
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laws in many states have now changed so that this case would be moot in most of those states. what john told you was basically you have lots of people in california who were concerned it was a year and a half to get due process. that's why they went through this. the problem is, what the judge did here was just narrowed the decision to presuppose that the only thing a child needs is a great teacher. a child needs art and music and high standards. >> you are going to fight this decision? >> we're going to fight the decision. what i'm concerned about about this decision is the presupposition that to help children you need to hurt teachers. where i agree with michelle is that it is an opportunity. we need to actually bolster the profession, give them the support that teachers need to do a good job. >> the only teachers they want to hurt are the bad teachers.
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>> no. if that's the case, the judge should not have thrown out the rights of every teacher. good teachers need to be creative. they need to take risks. they need to actually do things that may -- where they may stumble and fall. what this decision did is said to teachers all across the country, don't speak up anymore, don't do -- don't try new things. that's why it's the wrong solution to a problem which is, we need to have quality teachers, we need to have great conditions in schools, we need to have high standards, we need art and music and wrap around services. >> we will continue this conversation. >> of course. >> this is important stuff. >> absolutely. coming up, new information about the shootout at a walmart in las vegas. police releasing new video that reveals some final disturbing moments. live to las vegas right after this.
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las vegas. tell us about what happened. >> in this news conference, quite a few details and one of the most stunning was the surveillance tape that was released. i want to explain what you're about to see because we're only going to play it once. it's about 17 seconds long and the video you're about to see, the two people who are identified as the gunman, the man is jared miller. he's further away from the video screen closer to the screen is his wife, amanda miller. they tried to barricade themselveses from the police. take a look at this video. what you're seeing is his wife use her pistol and he is holder her up to it. . the video fades to black.
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they want people to understand that she did not shoot her husband as they first reported in their news conference. and that officers initially thought that happened because it certainly appears that way. there is a lot of video. it is so detailed and so violent. another thing that we learned is that there was prior contact. three instances where vegas police officers came across this couple twice. they were witnesses in various crimes and another one was that jared miller did call into the indiana dmv out of rage. he said something. the counter terrorism detectives in this area went to his apartment because of the report that he had said he would shoot anyone who came to take his license. they determined that he was not an immediate threat in that encounter in february of 2014.
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>> what a horrific story. thanks very much. we will be right back. listen up, thunder dragons, it's time to get a hotel. hey, razor. check this out. we can save big with priceline express deals. hey you know what man, these guys aint no dragons. they're cool. these deals are legit. yeah, we're cool. she's cool. we're cool. priceline express deals are totally legit. check this, thousands of people book them everyday and score killer deals. now, priceline is piling on even more savings with its summer sale. so grab your giant beach towel and enter code summer14. look at me enjoying the deals.
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>> representatives from more than 100 countryies suffer from sexual violence. spoke with angelina jolie. so many other victims around the world. >> for me it was time and again meeting young girls, boys, and women who could talk about all of their pains but privately become very emotional about what
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had happened to them. they couldn't tell that the child was a child of rape and they simply couldn't function and they carried this deep shame and pain. >> here is what she said about a possible hillary clinton bid for president in 2016. >> of course it would be wonderful to see her run. i think whoever is president should be the best person for the job regardless. >> you don't think it's time to have a female president? >> i think it's certainly time but i don't think it's reason to vote for somebody, either. i of course would love to see it at some point and it is coming at some point. it will happen and you can feel it and that will be a wonderful thing. >> the summit to protect the young children from sexual violence during conflicts runs until this friday. that's it for me. i will be back 5:00 p.m.
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eastern. newsroom with pamela brown starts next. >> i'm pamela brown in for brooke baldwin. great to have you along with us and we begin this hour with the story that is sending shock waves through the republican party. it seems no one saw it coming. we have just gotten word that in the wake of his stunning defeat, he will resign next month as house majority leader. maybe he should have listened harder to the boos that came from the tea party. >> when i sit here and listen to my opponent speak,
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