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eastern. newsroom with pamela brown starts next. >> i'm pamela brown in for brooke baldwin. great to have you along with us and we begin this hour with the story that is sending shock waves through the republican party. it seems no one saw it coming. we have just gotten word that in the wake of his stunning defeat, he will resign next month as house majority leader. maybe he should have listened harder to the boos that came from the tea party. >> when i sit here and listen to my opponent speak, i hear the
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inaccuracies. the winner, economic demonstrated this morning that he has got some learning to do on basic policy questions. take a listen. >> let me ask you about foreign policy questions. arming the rebels, would you be in favor of that? >> check, i thought we were just going to chat today about the celebration aspect. >> i am happy to do more but i just wanted to talk about the victory ahead and i wanted to
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thank everybody. >> never mind that. he slobbered him 56% to 44%. and since we hear about people buying elections, here's the truly shocking part. cantor raised some $5.4 million, most of which he spent. by comparison, brat raised $300,000. campaign expense shows that cantor's team spent more money eating and drinking at steak houses than brat spent all together. dan abash said a tea party win of this magnitude bodes ill for compromise. >> that was one of the specific difference. that was used against them. the message to them was negotiation and compromise could
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get you beat. >> once an aid to house speaker newt gingrich. the message here to republicans is compromise can get you beat. but when you look at the other republicans who won their primaries, they also compromised. so what's this all about? >> i think he is wrong. i know exactly how cantor's people feel. the leadership got beaten on a primary. the reason i know about this is
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i was the campaign manager. i managed him right into retirement. a lot of it is the same thing. people loved it but he was never there. he was also traveling around the country giving these wonderful speeches. but what people want, i think, is they want these guys in front of costco shaking hands, not talking to candy on state of the union. they want their congressman to be their congressman. >> do you think the stunning defeat is more attitudes about eric cantor than about david brat? >> i think it is a combination of the two. eric cantor spent more time in washington climbing up the political ladder. he had his eyes on the majority,
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on the leadership as majority leader. he was completely out of touch and i had several people call me. my parents still live there. a good friend of my parents was passionate about going to the polls and voting against cantor but she felt that david brat offered something refreshing on immigration. he was listening to the people in the riff monday area who are opposed to any kind of amnesty and i think frankly her response is indicative of how the people of richmond felt towards eric cantor. many people would laugh at eric
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cantor for being what we would describe as a career politician. he served seven terms. it has become a club of men who get in there after a couple of terms. you know, as david, listen. let me finish. let me finish for a david brad said the votes, the people vote and dollars don't. >> at the end of the campaign season. 13 incumbents lost their seats in the house. 13. so far this cycle is about 60% of the way through.
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>> this is only the second time. >> wait. >> it has a lot of people scratching their heads trying to figure out the overriding cause for this, because had others won prima primaries. >> i think people are fed up with what rich just talked about. mitch mcconnel is a perfectly capable legislature. people across the country, particularly conservatives are tired of the seasoned lawmakers telling them what's right for them and i think this is a great thing. >> i'm not good enough to be able to draw the vast conclusions. here's what i do know. i do know that guys like eric cantor, when they are raising money, they are out getting on
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airplanes, doing this for the benefit of the republican party. if you don't do that, you end up in the minority and you get to make no decisions. >> when you look at the war chest, i think $300,000 versus 5.5 million. and what's interest something there is a lot of talk about the tea party today. the national tea party organizations didn't raise one dollar. one dollar. >> maybe we are getting back to what democracy used to be about. i'm not trying to say that it is setting the stage for anything new but it's a race that we all are talking about, right? apparently david brat did something right. nobody is ready for prime time the first day of elected office.
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>> i want to ask you as we found out today. >> and having a really bad intraparty fight over leadership position. so better you get it out of the way now. everybody adjusted new positions and move on. >> we're still waiting to hear more word from cantor's plan with that move. interesting discussion. thank you so much for coming on the show. >> and just into cnn, brand new
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video of the scene inside a walmart when a married couple opened fire this past sunday. take a look at the terrifying moments. this just minutes after jared and amanda miller shot and killed two police officers inside of cici's pizza and then went to walmart to killed a civilian. >> because an individual may online espouse ideology doesn't make them translate into a murderer. what happened to change these two people into murderers? we don't know and we are working diligently to find out. the better that we can get and focus our resources to make that determination, how you go from an ideology to action and murdering uniformed police officers is something that we all need to figure out as quickly as we possibly can. >> let's go live to kim in
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vegas. she has been following this story. how jared miller died. tell us about that. >> what they told us is something that was actually a correction of the record. and that's part of the reason why they released this video tape that you just played. that video does show that he wasn't shot by his wife. it looks like he was shot by his wife. she appears to retract the gun as if she is recoiling but what happened was when they did the autopsy there were no bullets from her gun found in her body. the fatal shot had already happened before this video was played and it was from a law enforcement weapon. that is what the law enforcement wanted to explain in showing this very chilling video. the other thing that was really interesting in this news conference and you heard the assistant sheriff there refer to it. a little bit of frustration. you don't know when you go from
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ideology to action. prior contact, three seasoned counter terrorism detectives had gone to the apartment because the gunman of the two had gone to the indiana dmv prior. the dmv said he threatened to shoot anyone near him. that license was taken. he did not hurt any officer but those officers had that conversation with him. went to his apartment and found that he was not an imminent threat so the case was closed. pam? >> thank you so much for that report. we appreciate it. and just ahead, right here on newsroom before he became a taliban prisoner and before he enlisted in the army, bow bowe bergdahl was reportedly
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discharged from the u.s. coast guard. we have shocking excerpts from his journal. >> and radical offshoots of al qaeda are rapidly gaining ground. we asked are the splinter groups a threat to u.s. security interests? >> and he came ready for war. we are learning more about the oregon school shooter's arsenal. a live report coming up right after this break. they lived. ♪ they lived. ♪ they lived. ♪ (dad) we lived... thanks to our subaru. ♪ (announcer) love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. and now you get hit again.asis.
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oregon state medical examiner's office completed the autopsy this morning. on the shooter, has positively identified him as 15-year-old jared michael pageant. he was a freshman at reynolds high school. he arrived at the school yesterday morning on a school bus carrying a guitar case and a duffel bag. he entered the boys' locker room in the building that housed the gymnasium. he spent a period of time in the locker room and during that time he murdered a fellow student. we have not established any link between the shooter and the victim. teachered to ristler encountered the shooter in the locker room. he was fleeing. mr. ristler was shot once,
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suffering a grazing wound to his hip. mr. ristler made his way to the office where he was able to notify the administration and then immediately initiated the lock-down. as the shooter was moving through the main hallway, he encountered officers who were starting to enter from two separate hallways. at that time, he moved into a small restroom. we know there was an exchange of gunfire between one of the first responding officers and the shooter. based on the autopsy this morning, we do know that the shooter died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound. the shooter used an ar-15 type rifle in the attack and carried but did not use a semi automatic handgun. investigators have also
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recovered nine loaded magazines with a capability of holding several hundred rounds. the shooter also had a large knife. he was wearing a non-ballistic vest used for carrying ammunition and other items. he was also wearing a multisport helmet with a camoflage design. the shooter obtained the webs from his family home. the weapons had been secured, but he defeated the security measures. at this time it would be inappropriate to discuss a possible motive for the murder. i cannot emphasize enough the role that mr. ristlor and the responding officers played in saving many, many lives yesterday. given the weapons and the amount of ammunition that the shooter
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was carrying, the early notification and initial law enforcement response were critical. every one of the students and teachers in that school did the exact right thing in a very difficult situation. sometimes it may be difficult to understand why we, law enforcement and the schools collectively, do the planning and lock down drills that we do, but yesterday it worked. to the parents, we understand that there is no greater fear than knowing that your child may be in danger and you can't get to them. we know that some of you had to wait sometimes several hours to reunite with them. it was our priority and that of the school to get the kids out and get them back to you safely. we appreciate your understanding
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that it was a process that took some time. the support you provided to us and to your children was phenomenal. we know that parents, students, and staff are still dealing with the impact of this incident. the mental health resources are available again today and i would encourage you to take advantage of them at the schools and at mount hood community college. we will have more information about that in a few minutes. now i would like to introduce linda florence, superintendent of the school district.
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>> i want to thank the staff and students for their effective handling of yesterday's shooting. the staff was effective in implementing a school lock down quickly and in a matter of seconds. todd ristler made his way to the office to alert staff to the emergency, initiating the lock down even after being wounded by the shooter. we thank you so much, todd. the staff were great role models. >> hearing from authorities there in oregon. the police chief positively identifying the gunman in yesterday's school shooting as jared pageant, a freshman there. he arrived at school yesterday on a bus. he was carrying a guitar case, a duffel bag, went into the locker room and opened fire, killing a
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student and injurying a teacher. he had nine loaded magazines, an ar 15 rifle as well as a handgun. the police chief also saying he obtained those weapons from his family. that they were in a secure location and he was able to somehow gain access to the weapons and that he clearly came to school yesterday to cause major harm as he did. we know one victim died, a gunman died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound as well. that is the latest with that story. and turning our attention to another big story, just ahead before he became a taliban prisoner and before he enlisted in the army, bowe bergdahl was discharged from the u.s. coast guard. friends say they have his journal and we have shocking excerpts up next. the lowest priceays get book any flight
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>> iraq appears to be on the brink. isis overran fallujah late last year.
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it is steam rolling through saddam hussein's hometown. >> he is not really comparing to
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osama bin laden. osama bin laden was about attacks and unsettling the west in this way. >> now it has a chunk you see up in the map. their territory goes up and over the border into syria. this is a group that is the size of a small country. they are well armed when the
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iraqi troops are trained so well. i have got to wonder what they think. >> they have got other armored vehicles. they have got other armored vehicles out there. they also have a lot of long weapons and even artillery pieces, by all accounts, they have now been well armed. the great fear is that the iraqi military isn't up to dealing
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with them despite all of that training. >> how much of a threat are they to american interests.
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>> the guy that is running has really created a lot of the problems for what we have seen. he is not a secular minded man. we raged a war there. michael holmes, thank you very much. >> some new developments with new information today. served about a month before being discharged. we're going to have more on that in just a moment. we saw defense secretary defend the white house deal to exchange five afghan detainees for bergdahl. >> we have come plied with the law. we did what we believed was in the best interest of our country, our military and sergeant bergdahl.
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the president has constitutional responsibilities and constitutional authorityies to protect american citizens. >> the washington post reporting today that he was discharged for psychological reasons. if you would, tell us what the screening process is before join i ing. if he was discharged from the coast guard how was he able to get into the army? >> to get into the military you have to go through a history and physical at what is called a meps station and questions are always asked about your past medical history and your past psychological history.
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>> what i don't know is how much the army knew about his past history with the coast guard. >> but isn't there a screening process that takes place so that even if someone doesn't admit it there could be some issue at play. >> what is usually called a training discharge. that's within less than six months. so that should have happened. i don't know i don't know what the army knew of his history. this story has more twists and turns and seems like every time every new day there is a new
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twist to it. i expect we will find out whether or not he was granted a waiver or not. >> this is certainly a big talk of the day. thank you so much for coming on. >> thank you. >> and a stunning upset. the second most powerful republican in the house loses a primary race. congressman eric cantor beaten and beaten by a lot. but who was the guy that beat him? this political no name until now. we have done some digging so stick around. ♪ norfolk southern what's your function? ♪ ♪ hooking up the country helping business run ♪ ♪ build! we're investing big to keep our country in the lead. ♪ load! we keep moving to deliver what you need. and that means growth, lots of cargo going all around the globe. cars and parts, fuel and steel, peas and rice, hey that's nice! ♪ norfolk southern what's your function? ♪ ♪ helping this big country move ahead as one ♪ ♪ norfolk southern how's that function? ♪
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>> david brat was a political nobo nobody. >> one of the most powerful republicans in the nation. here is what we know about brat. he was born in michigan. for nearly two decades he worked as an economics professor. he lives in a small town in virginia, population less than 8,000 people. brat is a catholic. he and his wife laura have two children. cantor has made up his mind about his role as house majority leader. his decision is setting off a republican scramble to fill the power vacuum.
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>> our understanding from republican sources, senior republican sources is that july 31 if the house republican leadership decides to have elections sooner than that, perhaps he could step down sooner. >> what about republicans who are eyeing to take over his role? >> the number one person that we're looking at is kevin mccarthy. he is now the number three.
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he is not very shy about and certainly they are not shy about making clear that they would like to move up a notch. that will leave his job open. there is a scramble and this is not going be easy. that represent different very important aspects like, for example, the tea party and mainstream. >> before we go, i actually want to play for our viewers, i believe you have it. new sound that we just got in. the first words that he had said about the defeat of his number
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>> all right. so i have a question for you. what's normal? a number of people are wondering after this reaction to miss indiana's appearance in the miss usa pageant. the 25-year-old is not as sick thin as your usual beauty contestant. she caused an explosion of tweets praising her for having a, quote, normal body. finally, a contestant that is not a bag of bones, one wrote. and dear miss indiana, thank you for looking like an average woman. >> today's woman is healthy and that's what i represent, i guess, and i'm okay with it. and i'm happy that girls are looking to me and thanking me for being average, i suppose. >> all right. even miss indiana doesn't seem quite convinced that she's average. there are a core chorus of voices saying no, her body is not normal.
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let's take a look here at what the centers for disease control calls the average american. >> i first want to say that she is very beautiful in her own right. i am sure she has worked very hard in her 5'8" frame to have a size four body. they are usually very tall and very thin. the public is really thirtying for more diversity in the way we see beauty. that's healthy. >> i absolutely think that's healthy. my mom was in pageants. what do you think? >> i definitely think there is
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more pressure. we have to also be responsible for either like miss indiana. she accepted who she was. worked with what she -- how she was born. and not tried to work against nature. she really did a very good job with that. but to say, and i don't mean to interrupt, but to say that she is an average american woman is not really the right thing to say in this context because this is miss america. >> when i saw the headlines, i was curious to see her picture and when i saw the picture i thought she is a thin beautiful woman and i was surprised to see how many people talked about how normal she looks. what do you think the message should be to young girls?
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>> i think the take away should really be that there is a diversity in beauty and that there is a dekpartture this year in miss usa where there is a more shapely trimmer figure that is being represented and how wonderful the public is react ing positively to to this. >> beauty comes in all shapes and sizes and forms. >> absolutely. >> nice to see you. >> niz to see you as well.
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>> it is a very interesting story out of pittsburgh. congressman tim murphy who is a republican who is a democrat were contacted by the pittsburgh va. they were doing an audit to find out about these wait lists. these wait lists called near lists on which people are put on the list to try to get health care and they never get off the wait list and never get that appointment. it comes down to the fact that the head of the pittsburgh va told the two congressman that she had known about the fact that the wait list had almost 700 people on it but the national va told her not to share that information with area members of congress. the congressmen are very upset. a guy named gary with the
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regional headquarters, and he apparently according to sources said that a woman in the national va named vivica wright simpson she had told them. the audit from a couple of days ago was much smaller than $700. they believe they were trying to cook the books and get as many people off the list as they could before the list went public. now the chairman of the house veteran's affairs committee is very upset. we got a statement saying interfering with congress's oversight responsibility is not just wrong, it's against the law. right now acting va secretary sloan gibson needs to immediately send a clear and powerful message that criminal behavior will not be tolerated from va's ranks.
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>> what we have here is an allegation that the national va told the regional va to not share information with members of congress. congress is very upset about that. >> also, jake, we're learning today that the fbi now getting involved and looking into these allegations specifically in the phoenix office, do we know anything more about that? >> both congressman doyle and murphy have asked the inspector general of the veteran's affairs department to look into whether any criminal acts were committed here by telling the pittsburgh va hospital director not to share information with members of congress.
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and then congressman miller, the head of the va committee in the house has also called for the justice department to get involved not just in pittsburgh but nationally. >> of course we will stay on top of this story. thank you so much and don't forget to catch jake this afternoon. great to see you, jake. >> thanks. >> and we just learned shocking new claims about bowe bergdahl's mental health. records show it was administrative discharge from the coast guard but friends say it had much more to do with his state of mind. we will have all the details ahead. as you age... would you take it? well, there is. [ male announcer ] it's called ocuvite. a vitamin totally dedicated to your eyes, from the eye care experts at bausch + lomb. as you age, eyes can lose vital nutrients. ocuvite helps replenish key eye nutrients. ocuvite has a unique formula not found in your multivitamin to help protect your eye health. now that's a pill worth taking.
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is. >> hello. a source this afternoon tells cnn that in the wake of his stunning defeat by a tea party republican, eric cantor will
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resign next month. that's cantor right there conceding last night. he didn't just lose, he was clobbered. an economics professor. the defeat of a leader as little known as cantor in a primary election no less has analysts going back to the history books. take a look at this. campaign expense filings showed that cantor's team spent more money eating and drinking at steak houses than brat spent all together. the defeat is being called an earthquake. you can bet that house republicans are making moves as we speak. co-host of cnn's cross fire and
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from philadelphia with us, host of cnn. since we have gotten this news that cantor will next vacate his post srks there talk of potential successors already? >> there are. folks like pete and jeff have been talking quietly, maybe, about throwing their hats in the ring. i talked to a gop aid about kathy mcmorris rodgers fl washington state. she is talking to a lot of people. she is hearing from a lot of people. she is figuring out how to best serve the conference. and i think she would be a real good pick for the gop going into both 2014 and 2016. it's really important that republicans fill this leadership gap quickly. it's a crucial time.
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>> and she is deeply conservative, right? >> she is pretty conservative, yeah. she's a great role model. she was picked to give the gop response after the state of the union. and people see her as a rising star. and i think rightly so. >> michael, to you, what i'm about to play is really fascinating. listen if you would to eric cantor. he was asked about the ongoing turmoil within the republican party and his role in the house leadership. >> you addressed your caucus and basically said come on guys, we have got to stop eating our own. >> i was saying look, the differences that may exist between us peal in comparison to the differences that we have with the president and his poli policy. >> how do you convince the tea party backed republicans when they look at you and say it's a
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republican establishment. i'm not going to listen to him. >> i think it is a general sense among all of our members and throughout our party, the purpose for our being here is to promote a conservative view that helps people. >> i think it's telling innel straiting the difficulty you have fitting into either of the con stit wencies. eric cantor was insufficiently conservative for the tea party. even though he fostered a lot of that mind set and i don't think he quite fit in with establishment republicans to the extent there are still establishment republicans left in that congressional district. i see them falling into a vacuum of sorts that exists into the gop.
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here is something that you tweeted. it reads cantor, lesson number 7 without immigration reform, gop faces long term threat. >> i tweeted out nine explanations as to what went on here. that was one of them. what i meant is the anti-immigration reform strategy plays very well. >> male, very white and much older. frankly like the typical talk radio. unless they grow that tent and the opportunity exists with hispanics, i think then they're going to face a threat. so short term victory, even 2014, a big midterm election,
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don't mistake that for what happens in 2016 and beyond. >> as cnn's john king, he has been suggesting that arrogance is why cantor lost. >> there is some valid criticisms, the idea that eric cantor may have dig lugered this campaign and maybe ignored it for too long or didn't take it seriously until it was too late. i think bha is unfortunate is that some in my party are far more interested in identifying heretics rather than converts. and in my, the honor i had of working with him in that capacity, he was really interested in expanding the party and reaching out to women voters, to young voters, to middle class voters. this was hugely important to him. i think that is something that republicans need to not lose sight of even as they elect new blood and fresh candidates which
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is part of the process. let's see that expanding the party should still be job one. >> thank you both. you can catch michael's show. >> before bowe bergdahl was a taliban captive, bergdahl was in the coast guard. bergdahl received an uncharacterized discharge. another called it an administrative discharge. the washington post is reporting friends of bergdahl say he was discharged for psychological reasons. those friends gave the newspaper journals to prove it. i'm worried he wrote before he deployed. the closer i get to the ship day, the calmer the voices are. i'm reverting. my feelings are being flushed with the frozen logic and training. all the unfeeling cold judgment
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of the darkness. he is in bergdahl's hometown in idaho. nice to see you. so where are all of these writings coming from? >> they are coming from a friend who lives in portland, oregon, and it's interesting because they -- she received this in a package just a few days after bowe bergdahl was captured and went missing and it came in a package in a camoflage bag that included journals, books and a computer. this is a friend who was also according to that article, something that bowe bergdahl was somebody designated as the person who would receive his remains if he were killed in action. that is an interesting dynamic. it was this friend who was designated as the person who would receive his remains if he
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were to be killed. >> here it is. i will not lose this mind, this world i have deep inside. he wrote i will not lose this passion of beauty. ed, why do you think this friend chose to share the material? i mean. >> this person was worried that bowe bergdahl was someone who was portrayed as a cold calculated desserter but instead someone who was struggling with many different issues. and some of those writings that the paper quotes, bowe bergdahl writes that he is a wolf, mud, hound, dog. what good am i? my existence is that of exile. so when you read a lot of these writings, a lot of the excerpts, you know, you really get a sense of someone struggling with self confidence, their identity, which kind of goes along with
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what we have heard for years in the town. a lot of these writings went to a close circle of friends. this is not something that most people were privy to. he has always been described to us as somebody who is a bit of a dreamer, wanting to experience many different types of adventure. it is also someone grappling with a lot of insecurities as well. >> thank you very much. secretary of defense chuck hagle took a lot of heat. republicans unloaded on the military boss over the deal that frees five taliban members. while lawmakers are not happy about the swap, the country taking in the taliban militants doesn't seem to mind at all. >> and the truck driver blamed in the accident that killed one person and put tracy morgan in the hospital is making a court appearance this very moment. we will break it down straight
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go long. >> we saw chuck hagel defend the deal to exchange five afghan detainees for bowe bergdahl. >> the intelligence community has said clearly that these five are not a threat to the homeland. >> you have said it here that if you rejoin the fight. >> would we put american lives at risk to go after them?
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>> i understand that. my question is would we put american lives at risk to go after these individuals if they rejoin the fight. >> yes. >> if that's the case, let me ask you. >> you could use the same argument in yemen or anywhere else. >> i could do that but not because of individuals we released. >> only one man admitted to knowing about the deal although
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clearly more people knew about it, most said i have never heard of it and waited for me to lay out the terms. then they had something to say. people we met were quick to say that he was not to be questioned. they said the taliban have been here. so what. who cares. no big deal. they are fine living here with us. this is a story. but when referring to leadership, he was talking about something empty. i spoke to the royal family for the first time a about the taliban deal when i met the sister. >> there has been a lot of focus on your family. is that strange for you or pressure for you? >> qatar has always been in the
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spotlight because we decide to be independent in our policies and we do things with conviction. there is no pressure. take it with a pinch of salt. that will not deter our conviction. >> you spend a little bit more time in the united states. so when you look at this situation that is getting so much attention, do you understand why for a lot of americans we are very upset about the deal? doing the deal with the taliban? >> i don't know if details to be able to give you a frank description of how americans feel or the reasoning in our foreign policy. but i know that in the end, qatar is always doing things for the best interest of everybody. >> i also went to the taliban's
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office. it is in what was described to me as a posh neighborhood. it's a big villa full of new homes. other than the guard, the villa was silent. there was no activity. we circled looking for entrances, cars, people in windows. >> is there anyone inside? >> no one. >> and erin joins us now. i am amazed that they were saying this is a non-story. >> every singlie one of them wa saying it was a non-story. many tried to say i haven't heard about the deal. they clearly knew it was a controversial situation. when i told them what, if that's the deal, let me tell you i don't think it's a big deal and would explain it.
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rr. >> a commity member telling him that it's possible the taliban might disappear explaining that the ability to monitor them is only so great. you were there. did you get any indication that this is a place that can actually control it? >> it is a place that is controlled by one man and one royal family? it's very, very clear. nothing happens without them knowing about it. that includes if someone is returning to terrorism. can they really control that? i guess the question is will they really control that? it's a matter of will. there may be laws on the books but it's a matter of if they are going to enforce them. we have not gotten an answer. >> it is fascinating considering what a big story it is here. thank you so much. >> thanks. >> while comedian tracy morgan remains out of sight healing in a hospital, the man accused of
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'. >> actor comedian tracy morgan remains in critical yet stable condition in a new jersey hospital.
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his attorney entered his plea today of not guilty. the crash killed one person and injured three additional people on the bus. >> the top was ripped open. i heard a driver cursing out the over driver and i was saying help me. get me out of here. >> at issue, whether roper had been on the road too long fatigues or under the influence, perhaps. joining me now, michelle turner and hln host jane valez-mitchell. so the criminal complaint is saying that he had been awake for 24 hours. how can they prove, jane, that he was sleep deprived? >> first of all, they didn't charge him with dui. so you could extrapolate from
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that that he was not drunk or stoned. if he got out of the truck and was acting in a bizarre manner, if he was not drunk or stoned, why was he acting in a bizarre manner. did they have video tape at the crash scene? if you have not slept for more than 24 hours you will behave in a certain way that will tip cops off to that. you might be drowsy. you might stumble and slur your words. if you can't attribute that to alcohol or drugs, then sleep p deprivation might be the answer. what was he doing in the last 24 hours? we know he is not legally allowed to drive for more than 1 11 hours in a row. all sorts of alarm bells would go off if he had been doing that. where was he when his shift
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started. do they have video of him going into a hotel going to sleep? or was he at a bar? >> this is like connect the dots as well. if you are up in excess of 24 hours, that equates being sleep deprived. they consider that reckless driving. >> how can they prove whether or not this guy pulled over on the side of the road. >> not necessarily. let's say he starts at point a 11 hours prior to begin his shift. they go back to that location. did he stay at a hotel? did he check in? after checking in, did he go out and go get dinner somewhere? through possibly surveillance video and witness's account, they could trace his last 24 hours, perhaps down to the minute along with cell phone. where was his cell phone pinging? >> or traffic cameras. red light cameras. >> exactly. >> michelle, what about the fact
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that there was a major celebrity involved in this? is that why this case and him being in court is getting so much attention? >> of course it has brought a lot more attention to this case. we do see these death by auto cases before. someone has a fatal accident, we do see that. in this case because it was tracy morgan and there was so much attention, maybe it is bringing more attention to it and we have seen it happen a couple of other times. brandy was involved where she had a car accident and it killed a woman. when a celebrity is involved you are going to see more attention to it. >> we got a look at it. this is a deadly weapon. a vehicle is a deadly weapon. >> yeah. now they just have to prove it. >> jane michelle, nice to see you guys. thank you. >> eric cantor was coasting well
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number two in part by campaigning against house immigration reform. brat portrayed cantor as way too soft on immigration and now potential white house candidate former secretary of state hillary clinton is sounding off about cantor's loss and brat's beliefs on immigration. listen. >> we just saw this race in virginia his argument was this. there are americans out of work. so why should we allow immigrants into our country to take those jobs? i think that's a fair -- i think that's a fair question. but the answer is not to throw out of work and deport the 11 million immigrants who are contributing already to our economy. the answer is to grow our economy to create more jobs.
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>> let's bring in our political panel. margaret, to you first, john king here at cnn says that it was arrogance that was behind this. what do you think? >> $1.5 million was left inner rick cantor's war chest at the end of this. he didn't spend all of the money that he had. he did have about 23 staffers in his office. it's not that he didn't take it seriously but there is a real question of whether he took the threat seriously enough. >> and a lot of people are shaking their head, how did they not see this coming? many had the attitude abc, anyone but cantor but cantor and his team did not pick up on
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that. that's why you hear slogans like abc. we hear hillary clinton saying this was about immigration and that dave brat was opposed to any type of immigration. i'm sure hillary wants it to be about that issue. we try to pull these big stories about it. they do not represent the majority of that district. it is actually misreading the tea leaves here. >> i think saying that the tea party is a little bit of a stretch. he couldn't get a return call from most tea party
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representatives. this is an upset. i'm not sure all the rest of the narratives are necessarily true. >> wasn't the tea party looking to not really back him but other candidates that have a better shot? >> what's at risk is the entire effectiveness of the gop caucus. boehner and cantor have learned to work together and frankly needed each other and needed each other's coalition. now that cantor has been knocked out and removed himself from leadership, there is a very strong chance that you will get somebody else in that number two position who frankly doesn't have the backing of the tea party or who does, and then the ability to actually get anything done. >> this is where margaret and i have to part ways. >> is this the only place? really? >> let's get professional politicians. there is no doubt eric cantor.
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as a default mechanism, new is good. turnover. >> who do you think it hurts and who do you think it helps? >> this hurts john boehner. it depends on who runs. sessions is going to run for majority leader. mccarthy is going to. >> why does this hurt boehner? >> if he doesn't get somebody who he can partner with and help corral the tea party caucus. >> he really depended on cantor for access. >> they absolutely had a similar bionic relationship that made it effective. >> let me offer you one person that it hurts. eric spent $5 million. this hurts people believe money is a corrosive effect. it dictates our outcomes. it clearly does not. >> cantor was the no guy in the
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obama discussions. who is going be that person? >> you have now a tea party caucus who is emboldened. frankly you will be hearing a lot more no. there will be a lot more comedic rips. >> what do you think brat's greatest challenge is from here on in? >> his greatest challenge is to represent his own constituents. if you listen to anything dave brat said, that is the message. i am here to respond to the constituents in this district in virginia and i will be accountable to them. it's not to rise in leadership. it's to spend a short time representing your people well. >> what happens to immigration
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now? >> this does not bode well. there is an interesting question about why cantor has decided to step down. the altruist wonders whether he might not be liberated and just forget the lame duck. why not just try to get reform through. because you are not held accountable. you have already paid the ultimate price. go for the good policy now. >> you can get immigration reform through. >> thank you. >> a brown paper bag filled with loaded magazines was a student. police have just named this boy who killed his classmate and we have all the details from a press conference that just wrapped up. stay with us. 'm ted and this is. say "hi" rudy. [ barks ] [ chuckles ] i'd do anything to keep this guy happy and healthy. that's why i'm so excited about these new milk-bone brushing chews.
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>> welcome back. just a short time ago we learned the other students name in that shooting. one of them say was the gunman. we are in oregon and sarah, you were at that news conference. what did you learn about the teen aged shooter? >> we got some details. we know that he was 15 years old he got off the bus, went into the gymnasium. he was inside for a while apparently putting on some of the gear he put on with him. and then the shooting started. he used an ar 15 rifle and he also had on him a semi automatic handgun and a large knife. we know that he ended up killing
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another student, another freshman 14-year-old. we also know that he injured a teacher. that teacher is expected to be okay. was grazed by a bullet and everyone is calling him a hero. he managed to make it out and make it into the administration office. we also know where the shooter got his guns. listen to what the police chief had to say about that. >> the shooter obtained the weapons from his family home. the weapons had been secured, but he defeated the security measures. >> now they did not say exactly what that meant, whether he broke into a secured area or not. they were secured and he managed to get to them. we also want to talk about of course the victim in this case. so many people talking about
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immigrants go over, through, and around these fences to get into this kocountry. what's different is that there are so many children and mothers with children. most of these children are not from mexico. they come frommel salvador and honduras. why? those countries have among the highest crime rates in the world. many people want to get out. if you have family there, they are willing to send children along the way to seek safety. in addition to that, randy, what people know in those countries under u.s. immigration law if you're from mexico or canada, you can get sent back immediately but from other countries you're not allowed to be sent back right away. children and mothers of children know that they are treated more leniently. if you do have family here it is
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very likely that you will end up staying in the united states. >> the conditions there look really tough for these kids. how long are they being kept at these holding centers? >> what's what they're trying to do is find family members, then sent on their way to family members. but they've set up basically a campground, indoor campground at border station here in nogales, arizona, and then, after they're initially checked in nor 72 hours or so they're being sent to military installations in texas, in california, and also oklahoma. there will be, perhaps, as many as 3,000 children in these three states in three militarien stallations while they decide what to do with them. if you get worse, they're going to run out of space. they've got the federal government and state governments have some decisions to make. >> gary tuchman, thank you. see more of gary's reporting on "anderson cooper" 8:00 p.m. here
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the way california hires and fires teachers, denies children the right to a quality education. and is it unconstitutional, that's what a judge ruled in a contentious case about a job protections versus a child's right to a good public education. the landmark decision says, laws currently on the books harm mostly poor and minority students by saddling them with bad teach rpz opponents, namely, teachers union, plan to appeal, but supporters are thrilled. >> policies like these that
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inhibit the ability of schools and principals to put the very best teachers, and only the very best teachers, in front of our students, are simply not defensible. this is a win for teachers. this is a win for students. this is a wayne for california. >> we believe very strongly that we will prevail on appeal. >> there's nothing than good that's going to come out eliminating these statutes. it's not going to help having k cha chaos. >> so the question is, who's right? to debate the merits of the ruling, president of the national education association, and jeanne allen, senior fellow at center for education reform. thank you both. jean any, you first, you think the ruling is fantastic, why? >> hooray for teachers, hooray
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for students. we have 10 million -- more than 10 million children in this country every year failed outright by protections that leave ineffective teaching, ineffective systems and programs in front of our kids, and they've been there not because our teachers aren't great, but because the system protects mediocrity at the expense of kids. this is a great day for the rights of children and teachers. on top of that hundreds of thousands of young people who want to become young teachers enter the system and are pushed out because things like tenure and seniority protect the adult at the expense of kids learning. we simply can't have that anymore. >> den any we talked to some teachers who said was pastime to do something about low-performing teachers. what would your solution be? >> i think the most important thing to realize, due process procedures do not prevent ineffective teachers from being
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hired they do prevent good teachers from being fired for bad reasons. the problem here is there are teachers who should not be in the classroom. i believe the solution is to say, what is wrong with the hiring, recruitment, and lntsing procedure that those people are allowed to be in the classroom. >> i think it's absolutely wrong in america to have an unlicensed, untrained, uncertified teacher put in as a teacher of rorpd you need to stop the pipeline. every teacher who is made teacher of record should be fully trained, certified and licensed, that's how you solve the problem. >> this isn't about certification, with all due respect to dennis. we welcome to join hands with dennis and is colleagues in solving this problem. those policiepolicies, certific don't cause teacher to be great or fail. we have 91 teachers in 10 years in california who were dismissed, 91, yet 22% of fourth graders can't do math. what's the problem?
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it's implementation, we have to give local school leaders, local school educators and local parents the ability to hold their teachers and schools accountable to put their parents and students at a high level of standards and to be able to control their own destiny locally without these top-down state and national mandates that don't do anything but protect failure. >> i was talking to a ceo the other day and he said to me if any division in his corporation had more than 10% turnover, he'd be down there to see the problem. if 91 people put in the classroom deemed to be ineffec shouldn't be let in the first place. the solution to only high well-trained, certified and licensed teachers and then have a good evaluation system. no one wants an incompetent teacher in the classroom, especially us. >> with so much talk of a teacher shortage, if teachers
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are laid off, where do we get the new ones? >> that's it there's not a short annual of people wanting to teach. there's no shortage of people wanting to teach. there are shortage of people who systems are permitted to hire and who can be retained and rewarded because we basically, what the judge just said in california, let's be clear what this means, what the judge said is, tenure laws, laws that allow a teacher who has been in the classroom less than two years to get tenure without having to prove her or himself are not fair to kids. what that does is it sets up a system where those teachers, whether they're good or not, can never truly be evaluated for performance. we are beyond the point in time -- >> dennis, quickly. >> that argument doesn't hold water in they're hired and they have two full years to assess them, each and every day or w n whenever they want to determine. >> assess them every day for the rest of their lives. >> it's not true, it's not true at all. >> every day.
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>> it's due process. for two full years in order to get rid of any teachers all they to say is we're not hiring you for next year. laws protect good teachers from being fired for bad reasons is something that we need. they will put in place long before union. >> thank you both very much. thank you for watching. i'm randi kaye. jake tapper picks it up from here with the lead. >> the number two republican in the house was busy eating porterhouses, he was about to become the main course himself at a tea party. i'm jake tapper, this is "the lead." the politics lead. a political earthquake. eric cantor gets blindsided on the road to re-election. first house majority leader in american history to be defeated in a primary. what does this mean for the republican leadership? should establishment republicans be running scared? we'll hear from cantor, live this hour. the world lead, new revelations about the hours leading up to the