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years later in an investigation, if you don't have the evidence, you don't have a case. we will not be sending u.s. troops back into combat in iraq. >> currently, the joint chief of staff has done nothing but admit ways for us not to be engaged nor involved. >> it's a comprehensive project. there's no set time line for integration. >> how much money did you pay? >> $6,000?
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good morning, it's 6:00 on a saturday. already, what a morning it has been. we are glad you are with us. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor black well. >> this is "new day saturday." president obama is trying to determine what to do to stop islamic militants from overtaking baghdad. >> fighters belonging to a terrorist group isas is on a march toward the capitol. they have grabbed control of a big territory in northern iraq. we broke it down on a map so you could gauge it yourself. the areas in red are how close they are to baghdad. it includes the second largest city. >> half a million people fled for their lives as iraqi
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helicopters take aim at the targets. it's feared hundreds have died in the fighting. a u.s. official tells the aircraft carrier, jrnlg h.p. bush. will there be air strikes? if so, they will take off from the george h.w. bush. >> all military options are on the table. however, there's one thing the u.s. says will not happen. >> we will not send u.s. troops back in combat in iraq, but i have asked my national security team to prepare a range of other options to help support iraq security forces and i will review them in the days ahead. >> let's bring in nic robertson in baghdad. >> what is it like there? tell us what you are seeing. >> reporter: security has been increased in the city.
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that's what we are told. we certainly saw a lot of check points from the airport this morning. interestingly, though, you don't -- there is a sense the city is on edge and there is a sense that people are concerned. at the same time, you are not seeing an outright nervousness. there is a concern about what's happening outside the city. while they are sunni fighters to the north, everybody knows just to the west as close or closer in the fights taking place north of the city is still a sunni stronghold. the town of fallujah fell six months ago. it's barely a half hour drive or so from baghdad. there is a real concern about what can happen and desire to do something about i want to help protect the city. >> nic, i heard there are hundreds of volunteers in the
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army. i heard they are actually former militias. are they ready for a fight? >> yeah, they are. some of them who have a sheer cleric, a religious heritage and standing here who, for a long time, when u.s. troops were here, as a militia and trained militia. they have been stood back up. they are back in the fight, we are told they are been affected. very interestingly and tellingly for the situation. who is the most senior religious fig glur this country told people at prayers on friday, they should volunteer for the militias and should step forward for their country and national interests. they went on to say this should be -- the numbers should be controlled by the army.
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there's certainly every indication they are being formed, are getting into the fight and of course on the other side of the line, with the sunni fighters, that only ups their level of anger and desire to win, if you will. nic robertson, appreciate it from baghdad. stay safe and thank you. there are still americans in iraq we should point out, caught in this violence. tony was a contractor and has been air lifted out of the area. for security reasons he wanted to only be identified by his first name. anderson cooper spoke to him. here is what he said. >> local national security forces pretty much dropped their weapons and walked off. they didn't direct. if it wasn't for the villages on ore perimeters, we might not be in there.
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they stood up and helped out the iraqi army tremendously. they can be smart and fast. they can be very threatening. forces were here. obviously, we put up a resist tense. it was easier because they are not organize thad well. they have big forts and a lot of fire power, but they are not organized. they will push back and hard. if they don't get resistance, they are going to keep going. >> that was a u.s. contractor talking about the organization of the issa fighters right now. >> let's look at where they are and have been. we have a map for you. this is iraq and syria and the geo political poborder. this red is where they have advanced or have operational presence. it starts over near in aleppo in
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syria. they have advanced southeast, taken over beijing, now fighting in crete. fa lucieucia as well. will they get inside and overtake the capitol? let's have the conversation as the violence escalates. the white house is weighing possible military options including air strikes. the george h.w. bush is moving into the gulf. if calling on the swift action of the president. to start, mccain wants the president to clean house. >> who specifically should the president fire, from your perspective? >> the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, number one. the national security adviser, number two, who should spend time with her family on sundays. i would certainly have all of her deputies national security
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advisers gone as well. kerry and hagel were not there when some of those most crucial decisions were taken, but i don't have a lot of confidence in their performance, either. >> senator mccain has been critical of the administration for failing to make a deal with iraq that would have left residual forces in the area. let's dig in deeper with retired u.s. army colonel, good to have you with us. let me get your reaction from what you heard from senator mccain. first, the suggestion that he cleans house in national security advisers and also air strikes. what do you think? >> well, air strikes might be helpful, of course, maliki asked for that. look, get the u.s. to help in that regard. you know, the people were fight
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ing abu who ran the isis is not sophisticated and using technicals with machine guns. they tend to cluster and that makes a great target for air cover. we'll have to wait and see. now, regard to what mr. mccain said, you know, the president pick who is he wants to advise him. if he wants it current team, he should have the current team. there's a lot of skepticism about the things miss rice said over the last few months and years. vis-a-vis benghazi and the current crisis, but that's up to the president. he's got to make that call. >> an interesting element is that senior administration official tells cnn that they were shocked by how quickly isas
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developed and advanced. if there was a meeting in saudi arabia with chuck hagel and officials it would be growing. it appeared there was no preparation for that. what is your reaction to that? >> our intelligence community works 24/7. they monitor what's going on in aleppo and syria, all the way across the entire region. i'm sure in the national security adviser has been receiving daily updates from the cia and other intelligence sources. they should know exactly what's happening on the ground. what happened in -- you can only
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pay attention to detail at the same time. this is one that popped to the surface and is threatening to all of us. >> with the context of advancements they have made, are you confident that they will or will not be able to overtake baghdad? >> no, i don't think that, you know, if maliki gets the help, he's called for the iranians, especially sulmani, they visited this week in baghdad. they have people in areas and are advising the iraqis. the militias, as nic indicated, they called for the militias to activate. sodder is called on the army to come back into fruition. they will defend baghdad. the civil war will continue and keep in mind, you know, they have really renamed this group
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from the isis to include the term the box at the end. in other words, what abu did, the overall leader of isis or isil says he wants the entire region, he wants an islamic state based upon sharia law. they have made grate strides. will they get through baghdad? i don't think so, but i would not totally rule it out unless forces like the u.s. and iranians and saudis back away from supplying these resources to these people. >> all right. retired lieutenant colonel good to have you this morning. great insight. >> thanks, victor. we are talking ability a deadly attack in ukraine now. 49 people are dead and prorussian rebels may be to
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this morning, 49 people are dead in ukraine after the plane they were flying in was shot down by pro-russian insurgents using anti-aircraft machine guns. >> videos posted to youtube show the deadly scene. you can see the bright lights. that's allegedly an explosion as the plane is shot down. in addition to the 49 people on board, the plane was carrying military supplies as well. this may be the single deadliest incident since the country
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erupted in chaos this year. ukrainian and pro-russian forces were struggling. matthew chance is in moscow right now. what have you learned about the explosion? >> well, it seems it took place, the ukrainian defense ministry marking their condolences to the 49 passengers and crew on board. it was a member of the parachute regimen as it came into land at the airport. it was shot out of the sky by pro-russia rebels. a big tragedy there. the defense ministry saying it was cynically and treacherously shot out of the sky. it comes within the context of what they say is an anti-terrorist campaign in the east of the country to crack down on the insurgency there. there's worrying development that is have taken place in
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eastern ukraine over the past 24-36 hours or so. you see the plane shot out of the sky. another incident 24 hours before where ukrainian authorities are accusing russia of allowing three tanks and other armored vehicles to cross over the border to aid them. the kremlin denies that. the u.s. is involved as well. they believe the tanks came from russia. if that's true, it could be another major escalation in this crisis. >> matthew chance in moscow for us. thank you so much. a former p.o.w., bowe bergdahl spent his first night on u.s. soil. we'll get the latest on his mental and physical condition and ask the question a lot of people were wondering, why were his parents not there to greet him when the plane landed. 5,000 central american mothers
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well, the last american prisoner of war is back on u.s. soil after spending five years as a taliban captor. he spent his first full night in san antonio. he's walking, eating and speaking english, which is important as he gets used to all these freedoms. this is one element that is interesting. he has no clue about the controversy surrounding his release. also, she's not asked to see his parents yet. we have more on the former p.o.w.s mental and physical health. >> reporter: bowe bergdahl will
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tonight his reintegration here in texas. it's not clear how long it will take for him to reintegrate back into society. almost two weeks after his captored handed him over in afghanistan, bowe bergdahl set foots in the united states. in the middle of the night, he walked off a military plane. >> during his stay, he will participate in reintegration. he will have the necessary tools to regain the levels of physical and emotional stability. >> spearheading the process, they say the 28-year-old soldier is speaking english and making the basic choices he's been denied for so long like picking what he wants to eat. peanut butter sandwiches are a favorite. he's not chosen to speak with his parents. they have not made the trip to
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san antonio to reunite with their son. they say it's up to bowe bergdahl to make the phone call. >>over all, it's his choice to see where and when. the family understands that at this point and time. >> reporter: he's unaware of the controversy surrounding his capture and release. he's in a hospital-style room with no television. there's no time line for when he will be told of what will happen. >> as we give him a sense of what is in control, we expose them to events around them. yes, at some point and time, he will be exposed to the media and what's going on. he's had no exposure. we want to keep track of that. >> in writings, he appears like a young man struggling to make sense of the world around him. "the washington post" reported in a journal entry, bowe wrote of himself, a wolf, mutt, hound
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dog. i have been called these from my childhood. what good am i. my existence is to live in exile. it says he is a unique case with lots to overcome. there's no time line how long he'll be in san antonio or walk out into every day life. his parents did release a statement asking people to respect their privacy but they wouldn't be announcing their travel plans to san antonio or when the reunion with their son would take place. >> thank you, ed. this image just jolts you when you really think about it. we are talking thousands of unaccompanied children and moms with infants, with babies, traveling for days to reach the u.s. we are taking you to the border to show you what happens once they are here and why it is they are so desperate to leave central america. some really good news for
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29 minutes past the hour. i hope the alarm didn't wake you up and you could wake up on your own. >> that's the way. five things you need to know for your new day. 49 people are dead. insurgents shot down a military plane in ukraine. pro-russian rebels used anti-aircraft guns to bring down the plane. you are bringing down video of the explosion after the plane hit the ground. it's likely the deadliest incident yet. >> two, islamist mill tantds are pushing toward baghdad. president obama says no american combat troops, however, will go back into iraq. he does say other options are on the table that could include air strikes. >> gas prices may go up because of the conflict in iraq, if it
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continues. oil futures at the highest level since september of last year. if it keeps up, jumps of 20 cents a gallon at the pump. number four, whooping cough hits epidemic levels in california. 800 cases in the past two weeks. it's highly contagious and sometimes fatal. babies and toddlers are the most vulnerable. make sure vaccinations are up to date. >> what is it, 3:30 on the west coast? people are still celebrating in the streets of los angeles. l.a. kings are stanley cup champions after a double overtime victory before this crowd just went crazy. martinez slapped in the game winner sending the new york rangers back to new york. >> yeah, yeah. >> the kings are an nhl dynasty
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in the making. this is their second in three years. >> congratulations to them and the fans still cheering with glasses full, i'm sure. >> big red cups. >> we want to talk about something really serious here. it is such -- it's a sad story all the way around. thousands upon thousands of unoccupied -- unaccompanied children, i should say and moms with infants and babies traveling by bus, by foot, whatever means necessary to reach the u.s. border. immigration officials are struggling to manage it. >> a lot of migrants say their home countries are just so dangerous and they are trying to leave because of the violence. getting to the u.s. is just the start of this journey. gary tuckman is along the border in arizona. good morning. >> reporter: the influx of children crossing from here in mexico over the border to the
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north is continuing. the reason it's happening is complex. they came without their parents. children from honduras traveling into guatemala and the rio grande and now in texas. this girl made the dangerous journey because she wants to see her parents in austin. another child saying -- that the journey was frightening. unaccompanied children crossing the border isn't new. what's different is the numbers dramatically increased and almost all of them are coming not from mexico, but honduras and el salve dor. they know we are going to give them paperwork and they will be set free into the united states. >> reporter: it's more difficult. what's being done is the hundreds and hundreds of children that arrived are being transferred to the station in
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arizona where they are temporarily living. this picture from a local radio station shows many sleeping with thermal blankets, then transferred to military facilities in texas and oklahoma while the family ties get examined. white house officials are working as efficiently as possible. what happens when they find out the child has no family in the united states? will the child stay here or be sent back? at this point, it's not clear. >> removal proceedingings are initiated by the children. when they come from countries other than the u.s., the law does not allow returns from where they came from. >> people in the hundreds are turning themselves in daily. >> reporter: also arriving, mothers with their young children. she left the country may 30th, arriving arizona 11 days later. she gave her life savings to a
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coyote to make the journey. how much money? >> $6,000. >>reporter: $6,000. >> mothers with children are treated differently. they hike through the desert for days and dropped off by the border control at the tucson, arizona border station. many are told they can travel to family members and stay in the u.s. for now, provided they register after they arrive where their families are. they have never left guatemala before and don't speak dangerous and now navigating to various points in the u.s. without an idea of where they are traveling and how far. ruth is going to washington, d.c., to be with her brother. she left her parents behind. her baby has been vomiting. hard to smile? she says it's very much difficult to smile. she's very sad. why has she done this?
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all the immigrants we talk to say the same thing. they are scared to say in their home countries. a lot of violence and ruth says she doesn't want her daughter growing up with the violence. the u.s. government doesn't give them necessities when they are dropped off at the bus station. charity groups are there to offer that. ruth declares she is happy to be here. then the greyhound bus arrives. the first stop, el paso. after 80 hours of traveling, they will be in washington. living with her brother in limbo in america. it's well known among central americans that children and mothers with children are treated more leniently when they get to the united states. that, combined with the violence is a reason we don't expect for there to be drop off of children coming over the border soon. victor, christi?
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>> the american dream is short lived for the children who try to flee their country. 12 hours ago, we learned buses full of children and mothers with infants arrived back in honduras. >> we are going to talk about the political bombshell that everyone in washington is still talking about. house majority leader, eric cantor defeated in his primary. of course this changes the gop leadership. we are going to talk about the nuances, the finer points here and the affect on democrats and the president.
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all right. let's talk politics this morning. something that has never, ever happened before. the house majority leader defeated in his primary race. eric cantor of virginia knocked out of congress by dave brat, an unknown or little known college professor and political novice. >> this is triggering shock waves in the gop and all of washington. conservatives excited about replacing cantor. let's bring in a political science professor in cleveland. i was hoping you would be here in atlanta. we are glad you are up. we have amy here, good morning to you both. amy, i want to start with you. i follow you on twitter. your tweets, i wait for them especially. i retweeted this one. let's put this up. so the tea party is dead, huh? i have always said the strength of the tea party movement is on
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a local level. this victory is the proof in the pudding, but, another person is laura ingram from fox news. she says the national tea party had nothing to do with his win. not one major tea party organization came out to endorse brat. the question is this, why does or how does the tea party have any basis to claim this win? >> well, first of all, the tea party, there are national groups, but the strength of the movement is on a local level. without the groups across the country and the people on the local level, the national groups have no role, what would they do. when you say tea party, tea party is all about fiscal responsibility, limited
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government and free market. anybody can be, claim the label of tea party or use the label. a lot of people are tea party and don't want to use that label. he is a conservative. he ran on conservative principals and values and that's how he won. the people in that district did the hard work. it's boots on the ground. passion. fire in the belly. that can't be bought. >> it was interesting via one of the trending hashtags on twitter was #fully classed. i think one of the first questions for a lot of people were cantor is defeated, what does it mean for immigration reform. what do you think? >> well, immigration reform was already dead. nobody wants to do anything before the midterm. they want to work on this afterwards. a lot of this is people figuring out, what does this mean locally? i don't think they can claim credit for this.
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this is like wayne gretzky saying he has something to do with the championship last night. no. you didn't have anything to do with this. this is a simple matter of eric cantor wearing out his welcome, pushing people around too much and not being connected. a local guy took over, a college professor. >> what does it mean for the president? >> he's got plenty of problems. his approval ratings are in the low 40s. you have an incumbent who may be losing in the senate. his concern is flying around the country and trying to shore up what he can in the u.s. senate. i don't think immigration reform was going to seriously be on the table this year. i think the gop will have a plan by 2016. they will need young and latino voters to look at them if they have a chance of beating hillary clinton. >> amy, i want to go to you. the path is clear for kevin
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mccarthy to get cantor's job. how important do you think it is for a red state republican, as leader in the gop, someone more in tune with grass roots, necessarily, to get a win? >> well, i think, first of all, i wouldn't say his path is clear. raul from idaho announced he's going to make a run for that leadership position. i think it would be fantastic. why not have the entire caucus represented. >> you think he has the support? >> absolutely. outside influences never had affect on the caucuses in the senate and house. it's time for americans to step up. speaker boner, there was almost a coup for his leadership. i believe raul could take this. he could. we need conservatives. kevin mccarthy is more of the same.
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is washington not getting the idea of what's going on in america? that's the problem. they are so removeed from reality. they need to get outside of the beltway. >> i know you are opposed to anything that approaches amnesty as we had the conversation about immigration. do you think there can be something? something can be done this upcoming session? >> this is the thing. as everybody talks amnesty, i believe we need immigration reform. i don't believe right now is the time to do it. when you talk amnesty, you are talking about giving people a clear pathway to citizenship. the people here that have broken the law, what about the millions in line and waiting in line. yes, we need to come together on immigration reform. marco rubio did that. he has stepped back and said now is not the time for comprehensive immigration. this is the thing. the bottom line is, we can't do anything about immigration until we secure our borders. they are not secure.
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this administration is not enforcing the laws on the books now, why would they enforce new laws. >> jason johnson, your thoughts? >> eric cantor learned a valuable lesson. all politics are local. you can talk immigration and health care reform, what it boils down to, if you want to keep your district, any member of congress, republican or democrat, you have to hang out. you can't show up with your entronlg. it's connecting locally. >> i think we can all agree on that. thank you very much jason and amy. >> thank you. >> thank you, guys. here is a question for you. how bad it is looking, really, for team usa in the world cup? their head coach is saying winning is unrealistic. >> what? >> when a coach says that --
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germany, portugal and ghana. they knocked them out in 2010. >> as the team starts, we have the premier or primer, premier. >> it can be primer. >> let's just go to laura in brazil. >> reporter: so, let's get this out of the way right now, the usa, they are going to struggle. that's not because they are a poor team. it's not because they are undeserving of a world cup spot, it's because they are in the group of death, the most difficult group for teams to play out of and survive. all the teams in this group are very strong. what is it that makes the usa team the team they are? well, let's start with the coach. he describes it core of the squad as the spine. we'll call him the brain. he is a world cup winner with
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germany, a team he led to the world cup. he doesn't have the traditional positive american outlook. >> for us talking about winning a world cup is just -- it's just not realistic. we have to make it with a group. stay with our feet on the ground and say let's get that group done and then -- then the sky is the limit. >> reporter: see, not very traditional, but honest. the usa isn't the favorite for the most coveted soccer trophy. in fact, their odds are 101. that doesn't mean they are not in brazil to actually win. the 23 players on the squad dreamed of playing since they were kids. >> the world stops, everybody is watching. to have the opportunity to represent our country, wear our colors, there's nothing else like it. >> a dream come true. as a kid, i watched the world cup on tv and pray about
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hopefully being able to play on that stage in front of crowds like that. >> reporter: they are part of the spine of the team. they are 2 of 6 player that is played in a world cup before. bradley is easier the best american midfielder of his generation who carried the usa out four years ago. dempsey is the heart of the team, the captain. he gave up a lucrative dream career in europe in the mls to raise his kids in america. the 17 others include youngsters like the 23-year-old born in alabama and raised in iceland and caused an uproar when he chose to play for the country of his birth over iceland. then there's players who thought their dream of playing was over until he gave them a shot. kyle beckerman who is 32 years old is one of those guys. his goal has been to play on the
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u.s. world cup squad. in fact, he used to leave notes for his mom as a kid and sign them, kyle beckerman, usa, number 15. now, he's signing autographs that way. young and old, experience and inexperience and place of birth with five players on the roster, not actually born in the usa, but all of them will be wearing the red, white and blue with pride as they play here in brazil and represent their country in the greatest sporting spectacle on earth. >> laura, thank you so much. a retired uple's dreams, they go up in flames and this is litt literal. their dream home set ablaze on purpose. we'll explain why. hey, did you know? take a look at your screen for a second. >> yeah. >> did you know? ten things you might not have
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siemens. answers. this is a huge heart break. a cup frl the lone star state in texas, they spent nearly $1 million buying their dream home. a 4,000 square foot mansion only to see this. >> oh, my gosh. >> yeah. >> built on a bluff. look at this one.
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the land where the house was still standing was deemed too unstable for bulldozers. the whole thing was burned down. the couple says their insurance likely will not cover any of it. are you kidding? >> that's a shame there. >> so sorry to hear that. well, we have to start the next hour. >> thanks for spending your morning with us, starting now. iraqi security forces have broouchb unable to defend the cities, which allowed them to overrun iraq's territory. >> intelligence is not perfect. it's not a perfect science. it never has been and never will be. >> we are pleased with his physical state. he was able to walk into the hospital and seemed to do so in a functional manner. >> think about everybody else, all right? >> i want to do it at her grave,
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at my house. >> you are not going to do anything. i know you remember that last piece of video we showed you. we are going to be talking about this. we want to wish you a good morning. sit back and relax. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. this is "new day saturday." we're starting this morning with iraq and understandably the growing fears that fighting there could erupt into all-out civil war. >> right now, militants belonging to islamic state in iraq and syria known as isis. air strikes have killed dozens of militants in the latest battleground. there are reports of bomb blasts
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in baghdad. isis grabbed control of key territories in northern iraq and syria. i want to put this map up to get a gauge here. the areas in red are where they are in control including mosul. >> the president is in palm springs. while he's there, he's weighing options to stop the militants in their tracks. that could include air strikes. >> no american combat troops are going to go back into iraq. we are covering this story from multiple angles. athena jones is in washington with us and nic robertson is in baghdad. >> nic, we want to start with you. in baghdad, iraq's capitol. is security being ramped up? what is the situation? how are they going to prevent the isis fighters from taking over the capitol. >> reporter: you bet they are ramping up security here. there have been appeals that came from the most senior of
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religious leaders on friday. this is a man whose never gotten into politics before over the past several decades, never once gotten into politics. now he says young men should help stop this advancement of sunni terrorists, as they see it. i was talking to somebody who was driving south of baghdad a few hours ago and he saw bus loads of young men filling up buses to be driven to the battle north of baghdad. the volunteers are coming from the community fighting under the guidance of the army and responding to their religious leaders. there is a deep concern that don't do that. the isis fighters could bring the fight to the capitol in baghdad. >> nic, we have reports that 500 revolutionary guard troops from iron are there.
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the iranian president tweeted out and actually in a speech earlier this morning, said that there are no fighting forces in iraq. can you clarify for us? are there any iranian troops there in iraq to help? if so, do we know what they are going to be doing? >> reporter: sure. with the iranian president, iraq is asked for the support, then we'll give it to them. it's impossible for us to know from where we stand, is the bottom line here, christi. the situation is this, to travel to the areas, they need a lot of permission from the government. we are not getting independent witness eyes on the battlefield to see who is there and who isn't. i can tell you one thing, right now, rumors, absolutely abound.
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there is an absolute certain belief on the other side of the front line here, if you will. i was talking to a sunni tribal shake and he told me he was sure the iranian troops were in iraq. he thought it was a negative thing. he was concerned this would escalate the fighting. if you talk to the government here, they are denying it. whatever is being said, the other side believes, yeah, sure, the worst thing that could happen is happening. we just don't have that right now. >> all right. nic robertson in baghdad, thank you very much. isis militants are threatening to attack baghdad, president obama says he will not send u.s. combat troops back to iraq. >> he will review several military options, though. athena jones has details for us. >> iraqi security forces have proven unable to defend a number of cities that allowed thester
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"rick's list"s to overreturn the territory. >> reporter: three years after pulling out of iraq, he says it growing crisis threatens america's national security. the president and his advisers are discussing a range of options, including air strikes to fight the militant group that captured the second largest city, mosul. they won't get u.s. military help unless iraq's shiite leader makes changes. >> this should be a wake-up call. they have to demonstrate a willingness to make hard decisions. >> reporter: he long resisted. deals that could help bring stability to the oil rich country. >> unfortunately, what we have seen from the prime minister over the eight, nine years he's been in office is that this is a man who is very reluctant to
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bargain with his rivals. >> reporter: shiite iran has an interest in preventing iraq from falling and could help the u.s. to push malachi to bargain. >> the united states and iran have something of a confluence of interest. >> republicans are criticizing the policy saying it was a mistake not to leave some u.s. forces behind. >> i predicted this would happen when they decided not to have a residual force. anybody tells you they couldn't isn't telling the truth. >> reporter: a president under pressure at home, pressing iraqis to do more to help themselves. >> our troops and the american people and american taxpayers made huge investments and sacrifices to give iraqis the opportunity to chart a better course, a better destiny. ultimately, they have to seize it. >> athena jones joins us from the white house. if isis carries out the threat
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of marching to baghdad, what will the u.s. strategy be then? any indication? >> well, victor, that's what's being discussed right now by the national security team. many works in this building behind us all wooekd. the president is going to be in close contact with them from palm springs, california, where he's spending father's day weekend. that's being discussed. it would be very, very serious if they make it all the way to baghdad. the president is going to discuss the options and review them in the coming days when the team provides them to him. he warned, this is not happening overnight. any action the u.s. takes is going to take several days to plan. we will watch it close. the white house is closely monitoring the situation there in iraq as they discuss what to do. victor, christi? >> i'm sure they are watching iran. we were talking to nic robertson
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about how there are revolutionary guard troops there to assist iraq. has the president said anything about iran and how the u.s. would react to that? >> we don't have indication of how the u.s. would react to iran getting involved. among the people i talked to, they say this is one of those interesting areas in the middle east where the u.s. and iran have similar interests. the u.s. and iran are in conflict over other issues case and point being the nuclear program in iran. iran has a stake in making sure that iraq doesn't fall to the sunni militants. they need to get involved. this is part of the diplomacy the u.s. has in the region. what they would like to see happen is have iran pressure malachi. to see him make some of his pretty cal accommodations he resisted making in the past. on this armed side is where
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things get more complicated helping battle on the ground. it's a very complicated issue, a regional issue and going to take awhile coming to a long term solution. >> the president did say that yesterday. athena jones, thank you very much. this could be the single deadliest incident since the fighting in ewe rain started earlier this year. 49 people dead in what you are looking at here, a firy plane crash near the russian border. after nearly five years in taliban captivity, bowe bergdahl recovering an american soil this morning. we'll talk to a military psychiatrist about the recovery and ask her a question a lot of people want to know. why hasn't he spoken to his family yet?
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this morning, 49 people are dead in ukraine. the plane they were on was shot down by pro-russian insurgents using anti-aircraft machine guns. >> videos posted to youtube. look at these. see the bright light there in the distance? that's an explosion as the plane is allegedly shot down. in addition to the 49 people on board, the plane was carrying military supplies. this may be the single deadliest incident since the country erupted in chaos. matthew chance is in moscow. matthew, what have you learned about this explosion? >> well, certainly, it's taking place in the ukrainian defense ministry blaming pro-russian rebels east of the country for carrying it out. it is the single biggest loss of
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life since hostilities broke out in ukraine. a significant moment. it's going to be interesting to see what the response of the ukrainon government will be. it's going to increase pressure on the government to bring to an end the conflict whether they will do that by coming to the negotiating table and trying to sit down with the rebels and hammering out a cease-fire or perhaps escalate the fighting is a pivotal decision the ukrainian government has to decide on. >> matthew, we are hearing about arrests that have been made, terrorists, according to ukrainian officials. what do you know about those? >> reporter: they call them terrorists, but, of course, we normally refer to them as
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pro-russian sec retists. this whole situation, this plane downing today and the other incidents that are taking place are all taking place within the context of an up surge in the east and south of ukraine. the ukrainian government says is an anti-terrorist operation. they are trying to wrestle back control. yesterday, in the port city of mariopol there was fierce fighting in the streets. they managed to raise the ukrainian flag above the city. killing a number of rebels and detaining a number of people, at least 30 people being detained for their activities. matthew chance in moscow for us, thank you. meanwhile, he is back on american soil. the challenges, though, for sergeant bowe bergdahl are just
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20 minutes after the hour. this morning, american soldier, bowe bergdahl held in captivity by the taliban short of five years is on american soil. >> he's being treated in san antonio. army officials described his arrival for us.
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>> overall, we are pleased with his physical state. he was able to walk into the hospital and seemed to do so in a functional manner. we allowed him to get settled into the hospital and into his room and his environment. we're going to be planning more comprehensive testing and consultation. >> bergdahl's treatment focuses on medical care, psychological report, debriefings and family support. the goal, of course, is to help him reintegrate into society. >> let's dig in with a psychiatrist. they are for being with us. you work with the military in survival resistance and know this process well. sources cold cnn and this is a thing that stands out, he declined to speak with his
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parents. what do you make of that? is that unusual? >> it is unusual, although, to put things in context, we know a lot about reintegration from world war ii and korea and vietnam. fortunately, we have had less hostage or p.o.w. taking in the last several years. we don't have a lot of experience. in general, people are eager to be reunited with their families. we have to limit it to shorter periods of time until people are ready. >> we learned over the last week the details about the captivity. new york times reporting bergdahl told medical staff the box he was kept in for weeks at a time was pitch black and like a shark teenage. how does someone survive that mentally? >> that's a good question. it's certainly not easy. one of the things the military
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does do is teach people who are likely to be taken prison of war, such as aviators, they teach them survival techniques. survival, resistance and escape. bergdahl did not go through that training, so it must been horrendous. >> i was wondering and a lot of people are wondering, too, there's been all this information coming out, this debate about whether he was a desserter, even in the days following his release. soldiers that served with bergdahl blame him for lives lost looking for him. how do you keep him from learning about this information too early and how does it affect his recovery? >> well, it's certainly going to complicate the recovery and it will be something that the army personnel who are working with him will have to figure out when to let him know. again, there's precedent for
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this. often when people are taken captive and held for long periods of time, there are questions about the circumstances under which they were captured and whether they collaborated with the people that took care or held him hostage. it's a stockholm syndrome. often there are questions looking back at the prisoners of war from the '50s. they were suspected of being brainwashed by the chinese communists. ideally, a homecoming is all about welcome home. in reality, there's often a lot of unanswered questions. >> we know that sergeant bergdahl is at the brook facility. how long do you think the process will take, weeks, months, years? >> another good question without clear answers. this case has more twists and turns than any i have seen and he was held longer in germany
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than a typical p.o.w. is held. the short answer is it's going to be years. he was five years in captivity. he's coming back under difficult circumstances. this is something that's going to be with him and his family and the town he came from for decades. >> bergdahl's experience likely redefined his sense of normalcy, being gone that long. is there anything in him that might be untreatable from this experience? >> well, i certainly hope not. one of the things that we, who have been in the military have learned to do is redefine normal. when i was stationed in somalia with a combat stress control team, we had t-shirts that said we decide what's normal. no, he will probably never come back to the normal of somebody who hasn't been taken captive. when you look at the p.o.w.s from vietnam, some tortured and
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kept in captivity for many years, some went on to have very, very functional and productive lives, some of them, it was harder. it's going to be very important to give him the support down the long term. one thing i would like to say is there's been a lot of rush to judgment with him. we still don't know what happened. it seems like he was struggling psychiatrically. there's a possibility he was on the antimalarial drug which causes reactions. it's too early to make statements about what actually happened and that we ought to let the investigation unfold. >> very good point. doctor, we appreciate your insight. thanks for being here. >> thank you. >> we are getting so much video. it's pouring in. the islamist extremists captured in iraqi cities. some families are asking, what was the war for? if this is the result, what did
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fight to them. air strikes killed dozens of militants in sue dam hussein's hometown. president obama is weighing options that include air strikes but he said he will not send combat troops. 49 people are dead. insurgents shot down a military plane in ukraine. pro-russian rebels used guns to bring down the plane. what you are looking at is the explosion once the plane hit the ground. it's likely the deadliest incident yet. >> three, more than 60,000 central american children are expected to illegally cross the border this year and the u.s. is scrambling to slow the rush because they are coming alone. jay johnson says he's working with latin american ambassadors to come up with a plan to get them back to honduras and guatemala. l.a. clippers owner, donald
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america's war in iraq will be over. >> that was president obama back in 2011 announcing the withdrawal of u.s. troops from iraq. >> today, as militants threaten to push toward baghdad, we are reminded about the devastating cost of the iraq war. in all, think about this, 4500 americans were killed. more than 32,000 were wounded and while the last troops crossed the border in 2011, those who lost the people they love, that pain is lifelong. we're going to bring in salina jimenez and her husband was a combat medic in the army killed by an ied during a 2006 deployment in iraq. thank you for being here. >> we are also joined by a retired army lieutenant who served in iraq and lost a close friend as well. when you see the images of what's going on in iraq today,
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what kind of feelings does that bring for you today? >> it makes me mad as hell, frankly. we have committed quite a treasure of our young men and women and suffered a lot of blood in trying to build iraq and now we seem to have turned our back on the people of iraq and we are letting them be overrun by a bunch of murderous thugs who, for all purposes are worse than al qaeda was. they are going to be, unfortunately, a situation where heads are rolling right now. we are getting all kinds of reports of atrocities these people are committing and we are standing by and twiddling our thumbs for nothing. >> thank you for your husband for his service and we are sorry for your loss. did david ever talk to you about
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his feelings when he was on the u.s. mission in iraq while he was deployed? >> he did, several times. you know, first and foremost, it's the most difficult part is saying good-bye. you don't want to say it. you say see ya later. you know, his perspective then, he was a combat medic. so to serve and to treat was mission first, but there were several times in the back of his head where he said let's get in, let's get out and coming home. this last time, this last and final time, you know, to remember the last and final phone call that i had with him that said, it's a lot different out here, babe. it's fast paced. it's crazy and i may not make it home. >> colonel, you said the u.s. is standing back twiddling its
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thumbs, doing nothing. what do you think they should be doing. >> let me say to this young lady, your sacrifice was hopefully not in vain. he was a brave young man and he should receive all that honor that goes with it. what i said twiddling our thumbs, we put up armed drones, opportunity to put tactical air in to stop this insurgency that is literally coming down one highway from azul. we have contractors, u.s. contractors that are besieged right now. we have many americans as well as friends, our friends, i have iraqi friends that are in panic because they don't know what to do. we should be taking some action instead of, as i said, twiddling
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like birds. >> we'll see what the president decides to take -- >> i'm not saying -- >> go ahead. >> i'm not saying put boots on the ground. we have aviation asset that is could do a lot of damage to those insurgents and help the iraqi government. we are not doing it right now. >> good to show. salina, i know you are active in the military survivor community. i'm wondering, what are the conversations you have of other military families about what's happening in iraq now? >> you know, it's definitely been very -- a very heavy subject in the past couple days to be able to turn on the tv and see, you know, where our loved ones were killed and died and where their remains may be. to see everything occurring. it's difficult because our sole
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purpose is to remember and honor and not have death in vain. it's a discouraging moment among the community to be able to sit next to another widow and say what now? what more do you have to do? it took years of battling and we have our soldiers and our marines coming home and now, you know, experiencing death by suicide and dealing with death every single day live and to be able to see it again, it's heart breaking. you wonder, you know, our husbands, our wives, our brothers, our sisters die for the values of our country and the freedom. what now? what do we do now? it's working twice as hard within our own community to say, you know, this is david's face. these are his memories. this is the life we anticipated. now what?
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>> salina, again, we thank david for his service. we thank you. we know when somebody goes off to war to serve, there's a family that's left behind that is going through thing that is we can't imagine. thank you for sharing your heart with us this morning. lieutenant, thank you for your service and insight. we appreciate both of you. >> thank you both. >> thank you. >> thank you. the faithful in phoenix, they are now just praying for strength and answers after one priest is killed, a second one is so brutally injured he was left with critical injuries. we'll get you caught up on the investigation and you'll hear about one stunning act of service by one priest. marge: you know, there's a more enjoyable way to get your fiber. try phillips fiber good gummies. they're delicious, and an excellent source of fiber to help support regularity. wife: mmmm husband: these are good! marge: the tasty side of fiber.
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church? how can a person assault a man of god? >> reporter: questions members of the church want answered. as 56-year-old joseph terra struggled with injuries. kenneth walker, in his 20s, is dead. >> for what reason, i can't understand what is going on. it's amazing that people would do this kind of thing. >> reporter: just after 9:00 wednesday night, father taric dialed 911 to report a burglary at the church. they found the two priests in the living quarters. father walker shot and father tera assaulted. >> he's not afraid. if someone came and asked for something, he would give it. >> they don't believe the
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priests were targeted. >> we have strong, physical evidence we are going to be able to follow up on. >> reporter: as evidence teams scour the suv that was stolen from the scene, we are learning more about the stunning, final act of service for his assistant priest. >> able to di- solve him and offer the last rights. a great deal of comfort to us as catholics. he was able to extend that in his own suffering. >> he gave investigators a few details about the attack. thousands of miles from phoenix, hundreds prayed with walker's stepsister in kansas. >> i'm praying for him and secretly hoping that maybe he went as far as sainthood. i mean, i can hope. i don't know. in my own eyes, he was perfect. >> as the faithful in phoenix pray for his recovery, a promise from police chief, daniel garcia. >> the police department will
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he is a professor and author of "the making of the o.j. simpson story." thank you for being with us, professor. how do you think the o.j. trial influenced cameras in the courtroom for us? >> it was the ultimate trial. until simpson, there were spades of celebrated cases and simpson struck and we had never seen anything like that before or since, actually. it was a year-long event that captivated the nation and 20 years later, we do celebrate that trial in certain ways. we remember that trial. it showed the bronco chase. there were about 95 million americans actually watching that chase which were more americans than watched the first landing of the moon. it truly was an iconic event and cultural event that stays with us today. >> it is amazing.
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there are trials that have come up since. i think of casey anthony and george zimmerman and people use the term trial of the century. the o.j. simpson trial was indeed the trial of the century. how do you think the coverage of that really changed media? >> well, it was a media-created event. a trial that was supposed to last perhaps a month, month and a half, really extended into most of the year. in fact, it was the longest sequestered jury in the history of california. jury members actually sat for 265 days in sequester quarters. it was a remarkable event from a trial perspective. from a media event, of course, it captured the attention of all media. in fact, not to cover o.j. during that period of time seemed to be out of the cultural
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loop. it was certainly that trial of the century, perhaps replacing the lindbergh trial of 1935 which had the designation up until simpson. >> something like dog magazines were covering o.j. simpson back in the day. i want to ask you because i used to work at "in session" and people seemed to ask why can't there be cameras in every courtroom? are there cons to having trials covered and televised? >> yeah, i think it's an interesting fallacy that exists with cameras in the courtroom. i think it does change not only the dynamic of the courtroom itself, i think a trial participants do behave differently in being in a televised trial. the simpson case was a case in
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point of that. trial that was elongated to a better part of a year. it also effects other aspects. the media itself. all media were sucked into the vortex of media. you mentioned the dog magazines. i interviewed the editor of that magazine. she said the reason she was in the courtroom is because it was the akita that discovered the bodies of ron goldman and nicole brown simpson. she thought her readership would be interested in the trial. even a magazine would be involved in that case. it involves the jury and the public. we have a contract with the jury that they will represent the public at large. what we find in these televised trials, we have two juries that work. the jury in the courtroom and the public jury. sometimes those verdicts are
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gray with the latest. >> we have a high risk across the midwest. omaha and lincoln with damaging winds and large hail and isolated tornadoes are possible. slight risk of severe weather from minneapolis down to the texas panhandle. it is father's day weekend. a lot of plans going on. just keep your eye on the skies, especially during the late evening hours tonight into the overnight. already seeing some storms starting to fire up around minneapolis, sioux falls and down in portions of texas. this is not the main event. that will happen late this evening and into the overnight. we are seeing some showers and thunderstorms ahead of it. let's track it. you can see the main event happening overnight hours. this is sunday at 1:00 a.m. we could see overnight storms. those could be the most dangerous kind sometimes. a lot of times folks are sleeping. make sure you have the weather radio on hand tonight guys, on father's day, more showers and storms firing up as well. >> hey, thank you for the alert.
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we appreciate it, jennifer. >> no problem. we will not be sending u.s. troops back into combat in iraq. >> the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff has done nothing but invent ways for us not to be enga engaged or involved. >> the reintegration is going on. >> how much money? >> $6,000. we have just hit the 8:00 hour. hope you are on time this saturday. hopefully with a bit of r & r on your schedule. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. this is "new day saturday." we start with the crisis in
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baghdad. >> militants are so ruthless and feared, al qaeda has disowned him. they are from the islamic state of iraq and syria or isis. air strikes have killed people in tikrit. >> his troops will, quote, cleanse every inch desecrated by traitors. >> isis has taken northern iraq and northern syria. you can see the map so you can get a gauge of the red areas. that includes iraq's second largest city mosul and that is where isis has solidified. >> as fighting rages, president obama is weighing u.s. military options. that could, could, include air strikes. >> president obama, though, insists no american combat troops will go back into iraq. >> but he will be reviewing
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several other military options. listen. >> we will not be sending u.s. troops back into combat in iraq, but i have asked my national security team to bring other options to help security forces. i will be reviewing those in the days ahead. >> cnn correspondent athena jones joins us. what are the other options the president is talking about? >> reporter: good morning, christi, good morning. if isis makes it on the ground and symbolically after the years and blood the u.s. spent trying to win that war in iraq. among the options considered, you mentioned air strikes. those could be carried out by unmanned drones or manned. they have to have the
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intelligence they need to make sure the strikes can be targeted and effective. they have to have the infrastructure in place. the u.s. is also looking at other ways to help iraq. for instance by speeding up some military aid. certain equipment they could get to the iraqi troops sooner. those are among the many options the u.s. is looking at this weekend. we can tell you the president is close with the national security team. many are workingll weekend in the building behind me trying to come up with the range of options. the president did warn this could take several days. any plan the u.s. carries out will take time to put together. christi. >> athena, iran is offering to help oust the group isis. this brings up the term strange bed fellows. if u.s. and iran are on the same page here. are they? >> reporter: this is strange. u.s. and iran have an assurance
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to make sure the government doesn't fall. let's listen to what the secretary yesterday had to say. >> no, we are not talking about the iranians about iraq. they need to do things not to destabilize it further. >> reporter: they have to get the iraq neighbors involved. this is a regional conflict. when it comes to sending iranian forces in to fight off isis, that is when it get complicated. iran could help in the u.s. view is to put pressure and put the pressure on nuri al maliki to make sure the an kaccommodation he has been making. he has to strike deals with the rivals, sunnis and kurds. that is one place iran could help the u.s. to pressure nuri
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al maliki politically speaking. victor, christi. >> athena jones, thank you so much. let's talk more about the crisis in iraq with retired air force lieutenant general dave deputla. >> actually it is deptula. >> thank you for being with us. >> i wanted to make sure i got it right. >> when you see the images of violence in iraq and we know what is happening there, do you get any sense that the u.s. pulled out too soon? >> it is really not an issue of timing, pulling out too soon. it is an issue of not having negotiated appropriate agreements before the bulk of the force left to allow access to air bases for example to be able to provide a continuous
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intelligence surveillance and reconnaissance to monitor to be able to nip them in the bud before they get to a critical state where they already are. >> what is interesting is the report that the u.s. was shocked by the growth and speed of the growth of isis. we know there was this meeting back in may where secretary hagel was in saudi arabia with leaders of arab countries and they discussed it, but there was no plan. what is your reaction to that? >> i find it pretty amazing that this kind of a threat was not detected earlier or perhaps it was, but it was negated or passed off as an iraqi problem. so, it is a bit shocking. one of the things that the united states military does very well, the pentagon does very
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well is plan and plan in advance. it is a bit shocking to hear that it will take a while to develop plans. what is unfolding over there appears to be a requirement to respond very quickly. not spending time to sit on one's hands trying to figure out what to do. >> general deptula, stay with us. we have more questions we want to ask about specifically with iran coming into play here. we want to get your thoughts on that and a few more questions on what's happening there in iraq. stay with us. we are back in just a moment. >> sure. you bet. marge: you know, there's a more enjoyable way to get your fiber. try phillips fiber good gummies. they're delicious, and an excellent source of fiber to help support regularity. wife: mmmm husband: these are good! marge: the tasty side of fiber. from phillips.
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have gained control of cities that u.s. troops died to defend. >> we have cnn correspondent nic robertson in baghdad and we bring back retired general dave deptula. we want to get to nic to find out what it is like in baghdad. we know the isis group is trying to make its way to the capital. nic. >> reporter: a lot of the fighting going on with the militias, we know the most important religious figure in the shi'ite community called people to volunteer to fight. significant he would do that. he would never gotten that before. what we have seen today or people seeing around baghdad, young men put up on buses to be taken north of the city to join militias there to be directed by
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the army and the fight against isis. the government is putting a lot of effort in the province to stop the fight moving further south. a while ago, i was talking on the phone with an army lieutenant who was north of the town of baiji. he was left to defend for himself. he took off his uniform and is now in hiding as isis is in the town he is in and trying to negotiate with the local towns people to come in and take control of the town. this man i talked to, this army lieutenant, very, very frightened. this is what is happening. the towns people there, he told me, very frightened. people in baghdad know about these situations. this, for them, is a big fear that isis could come there. that said, the sunni tribal leader who is supporting isis on the battlefield, said they would come and surround the city and
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force the prime minister to negotiate and make the political compromises everyone is saying he needs to take. >> okay. let me ask you this, nic, you mentioned the atollah urged shi'a to fight isis. we learned that there are sunni groups that are supporting or at least fighting alongside isis not because they are hoping for the sunni caliphate. what could be the impact of the sunni groups supporting or fighting alongside isis and do we have any idea of numbers? >> reporter: well, i was told yesterday that initially there were several thousand of these sunni tribal fighters and there are probably more now because they were limited by the number of weapons they had because the
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american weapons given to the iraqi army or sold to the iraqi army, now in the hands of isis and of the sunni tribes. they say that they want the government national unity. they are just fighting with isis at the moment as a matter of convenience to get to baghdad. they don't share this kind of extremist view and without that level of support, isis could not have made the gains on the ground because it doesn't limit the number of fighters. it has a limited number of fighters it has means it moves in a city and take control and move on to the next city and we understand that councils are set up in the towns, councils where the isis has a reputation with the sunni tribal leaders which are very important and relevant
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in the sunni society. this all grew out of the fact the sunni tribal leaders felt that nuri al maliki, the shi'a prime minister was looking out for their interests. this has happened. they say what they are doing now is a matter of desperation. it is not the way they want to achieve this government of national unity. >> all right. nic robertson, thank you so much. reporting from baghdad. stay safe to you and the crew. we want to bring back retired general david deptula. i know you listened to what nic had to say. what do you make of the fact the sunni militias are fighting alongside isis and how big a threat does that make this really? >> first, before we go any further, obviously there are some serious and very significant political sectarian relyi relish yus issues involved.
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relative to the application of force, one has to define the desired outcomes of any inclusion or use of military force before one decides exactly what is it we want to do. if, in fact, we have the rapid movement of isis, it appears that, one overarching goal may be to halt movement south toward baghdad. the second one may be, okay, to work in conjunction with indigenous forces to remove isis from the occupation of the cities that it has already captured. the third may be to eliminate isis as an effective fighting force. it is only when we define what it is with the outcome that we can get into the number of force
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and type and location to move in and assist in the situation. there is some direct issues at play that affect the united states other than the political ones that you have been discussing. the fact of the matter is we have a large number of people located in the u.s. compound in baghdad. we want to halt the movement of the forces south. that is a mission that is tailored made for air power. >> that is the decision the president has to make this weekend. lieutenant general david deptula. thank you for spending time with us and offering insight. >> you bet. >> we appreciate your expertise. coming up here, former p.o. p.o.w. bowe berghdal is back on the u.s. soil. >> and why his parents were not
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it has been five years for bowe bergdahl he has been in captivity. a lot has changed in his mind and his family's minds. we need them to recognize to come together and patiently wait for each other. >> that was colonel bradley popin. he gave the details of bergdahl's first moments at the military hospital in san antonio. >> at the news conference yesterday, officers say bergdahl is in stable condition. his recovery may take months or years as we discussed.
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cnn's martin savidge is there in san antonio. martin, good morning. tell us what you learned about his mental state. >> reporter: you know, there is a lot of things the military will talk about and issues they will not talk about when it comes to the mental state of sergeant bowe bergdahl. that is one that is in between. anybody who has been held in captivity and isolated by enemy force for that long will have an affect on you. they say one of the issues that came up is language. he spoke pashtu for so long and when he first got free, he had trouble speaking english. they said that is not a problem anymore. he speaks with his team in english. >> martin, for years, his parents worked for years to bring him home. they spoke in the rose garden
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and a news conference after that. we have not seen them since and there has not been a conversation with bergdahl and his parents. any word on that reunion and when it will happen? >> reporter: no, there isn't. you know, this is one of those things where there is obviously a private situation going on between parents and child that is played out very publicly here. it is really a difficult thing. it had always been said to me and i have been here a while, the parents would arrive first and bowe bergdahl would come in within 24 hours and soon reunite. that is what many people hope to see. it has not happened. it is quite clear that bowe bergdahl doesn't want that to happen. it was raised at the press conference yesterday. here's what was said. >> family support is a critical part of the reintegration process. making sure the family understands the reasons we do it and the necessity of
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decompression. overall, it is the returnee's choice where and when they want to reintegrate socially. the family understands that at this time. >> reporter: i think as a parent, it would be heartbreaking to have your son back after so much time and you are so anxious to be together, but right now he is not ready. that is a simple thing to say. he is just not ready for the reunion. not to say it won't happen. now is not that time. >> martin savidge, you make a great point. what is happening. thank you, martin, keeping us apprised of what is happened. >> reporter: you're welcome. we have startling video of a plane crash killing a member of the rockefeller family. the plane just ripped to pieces there. narrowly missing a house. also, as radical militants march toward baghdad right now, a new race against time to evacuate americans from the city. d if i ta
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hey, what's on the menu? i hope breakfast is waking you up. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. let's start with five things you need to know. president obama is weighing military options for iraq, including possible air strikes. islamist militants seized iraq's second largest cities and towns and threatening toward baghdad. the white house says no ground troops are going back to iraq. number two, 49 people are
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dead after insurgents shot down a military plane in ukraine. officials in the country say pro-russian rebels used machine guns to bring down the plane. it is the most likely deadliest forces yet. army sergeant bowe bergdahl is recovering at the brooke army medical center. his condition is stable and he was able to walk into the hospital yesterday. they added that they will be doing more tests and bergdahl's full recovery and rehabilitation will take months. number four, dr. richard rockefeller, the great grandson of john d. rockefeller was killed after his plane crashed after takeoff north of new york. there was bad weather reportedly in the area. dr. rockefeller was an experienced pilot. he was headed back to maine
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after celebrating his father's 99th birthday. number five, a federal judge has put a halt to same-sex marriages in wisconsin. the state's attorney general asked the court to stop the marriages while the ruling is appealed. 600 marriage licenses were issued. those marriages are in legal limbo. let's get back to the top story now. the deteriorating situation in iraq. for now, the american embassy in baghdad, we know is open, but american contractors working in iraq are being evacuated. >> last night, anderson cooper spoke with a contractor who gave his name tony who was rushed out of an air base of the city after it came under fire from isis. listen. >> the local national security forces dropped their weapons and walked off base. iraqi army stayed and fault. if it wasn't for the villages on
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the perimeter, we may not be talking to you. the villages stood up and they helped the iraqi army tremendously. they can be very smart and very fast. they can be very threatening. >> alexandra field is joining us now from new york. so, alex, do we know when or if they may expand evacuation orders there in iraq? >> reporter: at this point, the state department said several hundred u.s. contractors were being evacuated. we are talking about the military base in baiji. this is causing a great deal of stress and anxiety for the families of the contractors in the country. we heard from one texas woman who talked about the tense moments she spent waiting to hear if her husband had been safely evacuated from balad. >> saying i love you and be safe. you have done the hero thing.
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just come home. you are a hero to us. just come home. you know, they need a dad on father's day. be here. he had to get off and i did not hear from him the rest of the day. normally i hear from him early in the morning and late at night. i didn't hear anything. that was worrisome. >> reporter: right now, the decision to relocate contractors is being made by the companies that employ them. that is the protocol we are seeing their right now. we spoke to a maryland woman who said her husband is a contractor in iraq. he is not relocated from his current position. she did not want to give details to protect his safety. just knowing he is in the country where the situation is deteriorating rapidly is causing concern for her family. here is what she said. >> obviously, his family, you
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know, all of us want him safe and out of harm's way. we know the person my husband is. he is just the type that he will do, you know, whatever he can to help protect those that are still there and needing protection. >> reporter: cheryl says her husband has been working as a contractor on and off for nine years in iraq. this tour stressful. >> thank you, alexandra field. another story we are following. the surge of central american children. some of them unaccompanied by parents or anyone over the age of 18 trying to make it to the u.s. only to be held in a cramped detention center and possibly sent back home. is it worth the risk? we are live in honduras where
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hey, good morning. i'm michael smerconish. should we be going back into iraq. and why is everybody surprised about the uprising? also, squeeze in the juice for all its got. how o.j.'s bronco on the run sparked everything from real housewives to real life. join us.
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>> michael, thank you. "smerconish" airs at the top of the hour at 9:00 a.m. eastern. this story is sad all the way around. thousands upon thousands of unaccompanied children are travels by bus, by foot, by whatever means necessary to reach the u.s. border. immigration officials here are trying to manage the exodus. >> look at the photos. the kids packed into holding cells, sleeping on the floor with thermal blankets. there is not enough food or beds. not enough bathrooms or facilities there. many of the kids and their parents are fleeing epidemic gang violence in el salvador and guatemala and honduras. >> we have rosa joining us from honduras. rosa, a lot of kids who make
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this trek believe they can stay in the u.s. really, how often is that the case? >> reporter: you know, let me start with the root of the problem. the problem is if you look around me, it is the violence in the streets. this country and other countries in latin america. if you look around, it looks like any other public square in a city in latin america, but this is the city which has been dubbed the murder capital of the world. if you look closely, you will see military fully armed that are simply watching over the public square. the other thing i wanted to point out, in today's paper, the headline is the president of the country here is blaming organized crime and coyotes for facilitating the smuggling of these kids, which brings me to your question, which is why are these kids going there and are they able to stay.
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what we're told on the ground from kids who have been deported back into this country is that human smugglers lie to them. they tell them the gates of the united states are open and all they have to do is get to the united states and they will be able to reunite with their families. we, of course, know, according to u.s. law, that is not the case. it is a very complicated situation, victor and christi, that involves a lot of lies from organized crimes and coyotes to try to convince these kids to go and make this dangerous trek to the united states. >> all right, rosa flores there, thank you very much in san pedro. it is a priority to enforce immigration laws regardless of age. >> let's bring in cnn political commentater maria codova.
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is the protection working at the border? >> when you see the level of -- >> do you need a minute? >> yes. >> let's go to maria. what is your take on what is happening at the border? >> i think that not only is our policy at the border not working, but our immigration policy is clearly not working. that is why this president, this administration and democrats and frankly some republicans have really been working toward trying to fix it. part of the problem here and i'm sure we will talk about it a little more is the mixed messages that these countries are getting from the d discombobulation from our own count country. >> you don't go from a level of flow you are seeing now to what we had without some intermediary
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force to move more of the kids forward. there has to be effort in the flow countries because this cannot be stopped solely at the receiving end. >> maria and ron stay with us. should these kids be granted asylum if they are truly in danger. we will talk about that next. they will stay with us. don't go away. first, though, i want to go to andy murray's hometown in today's "open court." >> the roar of the crowd is gone, but there is a lasting sense of pride on the streets of dunblane, scotland. this is 2013 wimbledon open champion andy murray. the children are playing in the first tournament, the judy
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murray tournament. andy's mother. >> this event we have here is a perfect starter. you see the parents getting involved with the sunshine and kids are having fun. this is where it started. just our little local club. hopefully it will inspire more kids to try tennis and the local area to get more people down to our local club. >> "open court" is sponsored by rado. [ male announcer ] type 2 diabetes affects millions of us.
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themselves. some parents are letting their kids as young as 4 or 5 years old point them in the direction and tell them to go. secretary jay johnson warns the dangers of telling your kids just go that way. >> the illegal migration is not says. illegal migration through texas is not safe. >> let's bring back maria cardova and ron brownstein. jan brewer blames this on the immigration policy and what she says is the unwillingness to secure the border. is this a policy problem in some part? she says it could be the assumption that president obama is lenient when it comes to illegal immigrants.
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what say you? >> i think the fact of the matter is here this is a perfect storm. let's go back to rosa's report which is right. the rise in crime and violence in these countries is what has spurred this massive migration of unaccompanied children. we had a lot of unaccompanied children appear at the borders for years and years. in 2008, there was an act passed with additional protections for the children called the trafficking victims protection act that essentially said these children cannot be in the custody of the border patrol for more than 72 hours. then they are processed by an hhs agency shelter and then they are given to whatever relatives they might have in the country. i think that has led to the rumors that these children will be let go if they get to the border patrol. at the end of the day, what matters here is that we have to get our own immigration policies
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in order. you know, jan is absolutely wrong because what we need to do is make sure that we send a unified message and work with the countries to get the message to those parents that say don't send your children. they will not be set free. in fact, it could be very, very dangerous. imagine the desperation of these parents in terms of what they are going through to be able to say go to a 5-year-old child because you will have a better life in the united states. >> you cannot imagine it. you know, we heard rosa saying there are these coyotes, middle men, telling them otherwise. ron, you brought up last time that we need to focus on infiltrating that. if these kids are fleeing violence and they are minors. the human in most people, you feel for them. should there be some sort of modified law for them when it comes to border crossing?
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>> hard cases make bad law. it is very difficult to argue that if you provide amnesty, any kind of refugee status, you would not increase the flow and impound the problem. the issue here is we really have to cut it off the source and that, i think, is difficult. maria points out the 2008 law which had the goal of providing more humane treatment may have compounded the problem by making it easier for people to come and stay longer which increases the flow. it is a complicated problem, but the solution is dpliminishing t flow. >> maria, they are escaping violence. they are fleeing for safety. >> what actually happens is these children are looked at on a case-by-case basis. while some children and some families are targeted back in
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these countries and i talked to many of them by gang violence specifically and by drug violence and cartels. this is part of that effect. if it can be proven these kids have been targeted, they will be given asylum. that is the right way to go instead of doing a blanket announcement that all of these children will get asylum. that will bring on another mass migration. it needs to be done on a case-by-case basis. >> ron and maria, we will let you get a lozenge or cup of tea. we appreciate it to both of you. >> thank you. >> i would like to get their opinion on this, too. this is the talk of social media. is this a normal body? one miss usa contestant at the center of this whole thing.
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you know, she may not have won the 2014 miss usa pageant, but mekayla diehl is what people
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are talking about. >> the 20-year-old beauty from indiana is what people are praising for average. the fact that miss indiana is not a complete twig makes me happen. and dear miss indiana, thank you for looking like an average woman. >> that prompts people to say what is an average woman. miss indiana is about five inches taller and her dress size is a four. >> apparently, average women wear ankle length skirts? >> i don't know what silhouette is. but mekayla is with us live from indianapolis. you made it that far. that was impressive. >> thank you so much. >> what do you make of all of this, you know, body-type
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reaction? >> it was, i guess, a surprise. i didn't think anything was going to come of this. i just competed. of course, you are going for the crown. if not, you go home and continue your life. this is plan c. i'm not really sure what i'm doing with it, but i'm loving it. >> i'm glad you are enjoying it. was size ever an issue for you before? was this something that was new once you got to the miss usa competition? >> size was not an issue for me. was i aware i had more of an athletic build than the average model? absolutely. i have a mirror. i can tell that. it is not an issue. you want to be your best version when you are on national television in a swim suit. >> i used to be in pageants myself. when you are on stage, you
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better be in really good shape. i have not been there for a really long time. i wonder today, there are 50 other contestants that competed against you. are they more concerned with body image these days than in the past? >> what is important here is -- i mean i had a hard time because there are so many other girls that have different body styles as well. at the end, we are just trying to be healthy. there are a handful of them we have similar body types that did not make the top 20. we should be celebrating them as well. all 51 girls. we are all were just trying to be healthy. i think that has shown the pageant industry has changed a bit. we are celebrating the diversity of women and not looking for a supermodel anymore. >> beyond the pageant world and this contest, what do you say to
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other people who say what is their ideal? what would you say to them? >> i would say look at us and say why we are participating in these pageants. most of us had started pageantry for scholarship reasons and community service outlets and career opportunities. that is what we need to be pushing. if someone is interested, especially a young girl, in being like us in doing a pageant, we need to show her the advantages and the life lessons she will learn and beyond the crown and banner. >> you know what? i think normal -- it is not subjective. it is scientific. my daughter is tall. she will be taller than me by the time she is in sixth grade. what is normal to me is not normal to her. mekayla diehl, congratulations to you. we have a producer back there who would love to know if you are single. i'll let you deal with that on the other side.
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thank you. >> sure. >> what happened when you were in the miss ohio pageant? >> i fell off the stage. smerconish is next. there is video. >> we will see you at the top of the hour after the show. you break it, you own it. those are the words from u.s. secretary of state colin powell regarding iraq ten years ago in a book. iraq is clearly broken today. among the questions in 2014 is whether we own it. good morning. i'm michael smerconish. let's get started. first headline from the daily beast. america wants iraq back to fight insurgents with air strikes. the crisis went from simmer to boil with lightning speed. across from syria a week ago today. iraqi troops leaving

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