>> with the woman who he fell in love with while he was behind bars. damian eckles and lori davis. specifically, dick cheney, who in an op-ed blasted president obama for get this, his handling of iraq. that's right. pot, meet kettle. cheney, quote rarely has a u.s. president been so wrong at the expense of so many. this from a man who helped use faulty intelligence, remember weapons of mass destruction? none found.

miscalculated the cost of the war. part of it they said paid for by rocks oils revenue. >> never happened. and misjudged just how long the conflict would last. quote, dick cheney back in 2003, i think it will go quickly. weeks rather than months. it ended up lasting almost nine years. underestimated the price paid by our soldiers. speaking of american troops in iraq, quote, dick cheney, back in 2003 again. my belief is we will in fact be greeted as liberators. wrong again. 4500 american service members lost their lives in the iraq war. here is the bottom line. the obama administration should and does hold responsibility for what has happened in iraq under its watch. but the fact that dick cheney has the gall to offer advice to anyone on iraq is laughable, except it's not funny. the former commander in chief who sent us to war, george w. bush, has done the classy thing and remained quiet. perhaps mr. cheney, with all due

respect, you should do the same. have a seat. now let's go right to anderson cooper live in baghdad, jim sciutto in washington tonight. isis fighters, anderson, have taken over a number of iraq cities. are they expected to reach baghdad? >> you know, that of course an open question. we know there are some 35 to 40 miles, the closest city they're in and fighting for baqubah still. that battle has been going on for more than a day now. that's about as close as we know that they are in large numbers on the outskirts. obviously there are insurgents. there are terrorist groups operating inside baghdad itself. we've seen a number of suicide blasts, robeses, of car bombs and the like over the last several days. dozens of wounlded. more than a dozen killed just yesterday alone. so, you know, it's a big question about whether or not they can actually come to the gates of the city. these are more shia-dominated areas, the shia fighters here that make up the iraqi military. a lot of these volunteers who

have signed up to fight as well. they are highly motivated to protect shia areas necessary to protect sunni areas which an area like mosul, we all know what happened there. but don, the fight that is going on up in baiji, up north, the oil refinery, the largest oil refinery in iraq, one of three oil refineries in this country. that battle is said to be still raging. isis militants and their sunni supporters control at last report that we had based on two local sources, some 60% of that oil refinery. iraqi forces, hardened troops, anti-terror forces are still in control. the last report we got, about 40% of that facility. but that would be a major blow to the government here if that facility felt into the hands of isis. >> i want to talk about the reports of the evacuations, kidnaps, foreign workers in iraq. how dangerous is the situation there for them now. >> you know, it certainly is very dangerous. the foreign workers from that

baiji facility, from the refinery, they were actually evacuated by private security firm before the battle took place. there were several dozen foreign workers, many germans and others. they got out. we know there are some indian workers from mosul who have allegedly been kidnapped. some turkish workers as well, as well as turkish consulate there. there is very real concern about kidnapping. and among all westerners, frankly, even operating in baghdad, security is a daily concern. you to think about it all the time, no matter where you go. >> jim sciutto in washington, we understand that vice president joe biden called iraqi prime minister nuri al maliki today. do you know what the two discussed? >> well, we do have a read out of the call. and what you heard from the vice president has been a consistent message, really, from the white house. he spoke with the prime minister about possible additional military assistance. but he said that that would have to be part of a broader package that includes political agreement.

and what does that mean for the iraqi prime minister? it means him doing what the administration says and the iraqis say he hasn't been doing, and that is make his government truly inclusive. he is the shiite prime minister. the view in iraq is that he really is the prime minister of the shia communities in iraq, not the sunnis and not the kurds. and that is seen as a root cause of the divisions you have right now. so that's another day where the administration is delivering that message to the iraqi leader. >> the president has been weighing his options, jim, for days now on what action to take against isis. is there a sense of urgency about making this decision? >> well, the administration says that yes, they are dealing with this with urgency. but i think also with great care. partly because they want any milktary action to be coupled with political action as they've delivered in many messages to iraqi leaders. but also, i believe, and i've heard this from administration officials, i've heard it from intelligence officials. they believe that iraq will hold, that iraq and the south

dominated by shias, that the military there, one more loyal to the government and also the city of iraq, very much a shia majority city, because of those advantages, it will be unlikely that isis can move through there. certainly not nearly as quickly as they did through the northern part of the country. the impression being that that gives the administration and others time to figure out what is the best next step. >> jim sciutto, thank you. anderson, thank you as well. and make sure you stay safe in iraq. joining me now is jessica lewis, a research director for the institute for the study of war. she was stationed in iraq for 15 months as an army u.s. intelligence officer on isis. and cnn analyst james spider marks. michael waltz is a national security fellow of the new america foundation and a former special adviser on counterterrorism to vice president dick cheney. and also, nina burleigh, who covered the middle east and foreign policy for rolling stone.

thank you all for joining us this evening. president obama has a big decision to make whether to honor the iraqi government's request and send military air power to iraq now. should he do that? why or why not? >> well, he should do that. and as jim described, that the administration's acting with a certain degree of urgency. i have to tell you, don, if this is urgent, i would hate to see what deliberate looks like. they've had plenty of time to weigh all the various options. the concern obviously is how much time exists before maliki and his government are truly at risk, where we're located just north of baghdad right now in baqubah. and does that timeline look like? so balancing all of that, i have to assume that our national security council has not only a granular, but credible picture of what maliki's survivability. otherwise, we'd have to have aircraft in the air right now. so clearly there is a picture that we don't have right now

that indicates that baghdad and the government is in pretty good shape or at least sound for now. my suggestion would be let's hedge our bets and let's put something in the air to help him out. >> i asked the general, jessica, about airstrikes. late today we got word that an iraqi is calling for attacks against embassies. is retaliation against the united states? >> i think we should expect that there are threats outside of iraq and syria that can potentially respond to action at this point. however, i think those threats were there already. so as concerns this example, that isn't necessarily the data point that is i think most compelling for me. i'm more concerned about what happens if isis retans control of the urban centers and the military bases in the northern portion of iraq that they currently have, and how much stronger they become over time the longer they're able to maintain those positions.

>> you're a former adviser to dick cheney and his daughter. they're making a lot of waves with the wall street op-ed criticizing the president in an interview they just did on fox news. i want you to listen. >> got to go back and look at the track record. we inherited a situation where there was no doubt in anybody's mind about the extent of saddam's involvement in weapons of mass destruction. we had a situation where if we after 9/11 we were concerned about a follow-on attack that would involve not just airline tickets and box cutters as the weapons, but rather something far deadlier. perhaps even a nuclear weapon. >> is he a credible critic, michael? >> absolutely he is not a credible critic. i think the iraq criticism today is only one piece of his broader point. let's look at from boko haram in nigeria to libya to al shabaab in somalia to the levant with

syria and iraq, the middle east and north africa are literally crumbling. libya in particular, the administration's key foreign policy victory is in shambles right now. and i think the world is crying out for american leadership. and the president's underlying point is that has been absent under this administration. >> but you take a different point of view. you say former vp and his daughter slimed obama today. explain that. >> well, listen, i don't know where vice president cheney went to college, but i think take a class in how to take a country apart and give it to a terrorist organization. that is exactly what seems to have happened here. the -- you know, they are not able to -- sorry. they're not able -- they're not able to put any kind of blame on

this president. as jay carney said, which president are they talking about here? they basically took a country apart. they went in there. halliburton got $7 billion and no contracts before they went in? it's either they didn't know what they were doing or they did it out of greed. and i'm not saying greed is a bad thing. but that is what has happened here, i think. >> let me read part of the op-ed. rarely has a u.s. president been so wrong about so much at the expense solve so many. too many times mr. broome has told us he is ending the wars in iraq and afghanistan as though wishing made it. so his rhetoric has now come crashing into reality, watching the black-clad isis jihadists take territory once secured by american blood is final proof. if any were needed, that america's enemies are not decimated. they are emboldened and on the march. so what do you think of the policies here? does dick cheney have any credibility when it comes to

criticizing the administration when the faulty intelligence got us into the iraq war in the first place? >> well, don, i need to tell you, as the senior intel guy, when we went to war in iraq, i was the guy that was holding the wmd bag and had to try to make sense of it. to the contrary, there were elements of wmd that we did find, but that's another story. clearly, there was some intelligence that was extremely faulty. and was laid bare during the initial stages of the conflict in iraq. the issue that i have right now is that we could go back and there clearly is plenty of blame. well rolled into iraq in 2003 far too few troops on the ground to really get a sense of what was going on. and then we decimated the military, told everybody to go away. so we created a vacuum into all of which what we have seen over the past decade boiled in. >> why are we going back and fighting a war that has already been fought. >> no, no, no. >> shouldn't we be looking forward? >> yeah, yeah, of course.

your question of me, what is vice president saying relative vis-a-vis what happened in '03-'04 and where we are today. of course, all the could have, should have, would have stuff and all the pundits that are self congratulatory, they all need to shut up. what needs to happen right now is this administration needs to step up and make sure that we don't have a failed state in iraq, even more than it's failed right now, or we've got a big problem going forward. so the problem has to be solved. and it includes maliki, as lousy as he is. we can't afford to increase distance and speed at the same time. let's give the iraqi government some breathing space, and then let's deal with maliki post the some form of stabilization if we can help them achieve that that's where we are right now. >> all right. everyone hold your thoughts. stay with me. when we come right back, the surprising conservative voice that says liberals, you were right on iraq.

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history repeating itself? back with us now is jessica lewis, major general spider marks, michael waltz and nina burleigh. also ask you about the main concern that the political leadership in iraq is not equipped to pull the country together. you're an expert in this area. that an accurate assessment? >> i think it's a very fair concern that we don't just face a threat from isis, this former al qaeda group that is gaining territory in iraq and syria. iraq may very well, now be in a sectarian civil war, which was the object of this group to create this circumstance in iraq. because it's what provides best for their islamic state ultimately. but there is a big question in my mind as to whether or not the sunnis in northern iraq are ever going to stand with maliki again. >> the question is how this has become so politicized. nina, i want you to listen to what glenn beck had to say today. and then we'll talk. >> said we couldn't force

freedom on people. you know what? let me lead with my mistakes. you're right. liberals, you were right. we shouldn't have. >> why is it so tough for people on the political right to admit that they may have been wrong and that they were wrong about the war back in 2003 and i have people now who are defending the former vice president and defending the decision to go to war. this a no-win situation? do we all just assume that the other countries want democracy just like ours? >> well, i'm glad you asked me that, don. i am probably one of the people here knows the most because my mother is an iraqi christian from kirkuk. and those of us who knew anything about the country culturally in 2003 in the beginning were making all sorts of noise about how it's much more complicated.

it was a heterogeneous society. it was not in sectarian warfare until it was taken apart and dismantled. and i understand the urge not to talk about history, as the gentleman in the earlier segments mentioned. i understand that. but you can't -- we will repeat history if we don't understand how complicated this is. and that's why i think obama is right to begin to bring in the iranians and to start talking to other people in the region about this, people who will stand up against these people. you can't -- you can't keep on talking about weapons of mass destruction, weapons of mass destruction, weapons of mass destruction terrorist, terrorist. there is a -- there are civilians living there. they live together in relative peace. yes, the dictator was a horrendous person, a horrendous, horrendous person. but we americans, most americans, my fellow panelists here do not understand that country.

you know, you can go over there and you is sit there with the military in the green zone, but you don't understand the fabric of it. and it's a problem because then we rush back in, we rushed in 2003, you rush in again, and you'll repeat. you'll repeat the problem. >> i want to let the general respond. go ahead, general. >> well, she did a very good job of essentially insulting all of us. i think and i completely respect her personal perspective on this. the concern that i have is the sunni, shia and kurd challenges that exist in iraq will not be resolved externally. it's going to have to be done internally. having said that, there is a government in iraq that has to survive in order to move forward. maliki has to be gone post some form of stabilization there has to be a more inclusive government. and i think we would all agree to that. that's not provocative in the

least. it's how do we get to that next step so that we can achieve after that, which is some form of reconciliation that allows this government to be inclusive and allows this incredibly rich, educated, vibrant society to grow. and frankly, it's very difficult to kind of keep that all in bounds right now. >> michael, david petraeus spoke about this. i want you to listen and then you can respond. let's listen. >> the united states being the air force forsheeia militias or a shia on sunni arab fight. it has to be a fight of all of iraq against extremists who do happen to be sunni arabs, but extremists that are wreaking havoc on a country that really had an enormous opportunity back in 2011. >> michael, should we just stay out of it at this point? >> don, absolutely not.

i agree with spider that we have to have some type of political reconciliation that includes all of these groups. unfortunately, i don't think prime minister maliki is going to be able to be that leader. right now he is the prime minister of the shia, not the prime minister of iraq. and the level of trust between him and the other groups is absolutely broken. he will have to go. what do we do then to buy space until we get to that point? i think we're going to need some special forces on the ground that are going to be able to give us the intelligence we'll need to beat back isis to create that political breathing room that will allow for reconciliation. don, i think we're in real danger here of essentially having a partitioned state with the kurds in the north, a sanctuary for al qaeda from syria down to iraq, and then having essentially a state from

baghdad southward with the shia and what is left of iraq. and that's bad for the region. >> and jessica, quickly, does that mean isis in the meantime continues to strengthen then? >> yes, i think that it does. i think they have many phases of many campaigns that they have executed prior to this one such that my imagination run versus quickly to what else most dangerously they could be yet capable to do. but i think even the most conservative assessments hold that they gained strength over the course of this most recent offensive. if only through the military equipment that they have been able to achieve control over and over the prisoners that they've been able to escape from prisons in mosul. >> jessica lewis, james spider mark, thank you for your time. up next, the benghazi terror suspect in u.s. custody is likely to be tried in civilian court, not by the military. is that the right move? answers coming up. woman: this is not exactly what i expected.

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tonight, libyan terror suspect ahmed abu khatallah is headed towards the united states. the obama administration plans to try him in federal court, not before a military commission. joining me now to discuss all of this is michael mukasey who was a general under george w. bush. so glad to have you here, mr. mukasey. >> good to be here, don. >> the u.s. chose to transport khatallah on a ship instead of a plane. in the past he would have gone straight to guantanamo bay.

in your opinion, is that what should have happened? >> should he be brought to guantanamo bay or taken on a ship? >> should he be brought to guantanamo bay? >> i don't know that it much matters at this point. the administration is committed not to bringing anybody to guantanamo bay. and there is no way to force them to do it. i think what is important is to get as much intelligence out of him as is possible to get for however long it takes. if he is on a ship, that's fine. >> on a slow mote boat, as we said. >> a slow boat. >> plenty of time to interrogatory him until he gets to the united states. >> right. >> i want to talk to you about hillary clinton. she spoke than last night in her town hall with christiane amanpour. let's listen. >> now that we have khatallah in custody, hopefully we will learn more, at least from his perspective the reason it takes long is to put together cases, which is what the fbi and other law enforcement agencies were doing. they have to piece it together, just as we started piecing it together on the night of the attack. we want to know who was behind it, what the motivation of the

leaders and the attackers happened to be. there are still some unanswered questions. >> so you think that interrogation will be successful and the tactics that they use? >> oh, i'm certainly hopeful that it will be. it will be done by people with a lot of experience and hopefully people with a body of knowledge. don't forget they've had two years to investigate this case while this guy has been giving interviews and downing strawberry frapps in benghazi. so they know a good deal about him. >> who knew you had such a good sense of humor, michael mukasey. >> well, he has been downing strawberry frapps. >> jeffrey toobin, what happens once he gets off the ship in the united states? what is the next step? >> he is tried in the american criminal justice system, which has been enormously successful in prosecuting terrorists. you know, there is this weird dichotomy that has been established just like oh, let's be tough and put him in

guantanamo, or let's be easy and let him be prosecuted by the justice department. in fact, the successes have been by the justice department and the catastrophic failures in delays have been in guantanamo. so the idea that this is somehow going easy on him or behaving inappropriately for the protection of the country seems to me just absurd. they're doing exactly what they should be doing. >> mr. mukasey? >> well, i think that the dichotomy that was just drawn is a little bit exaggerated. first of all, the military commissions that are being run in guantanamo are not being run the way military commissions were run during world war two. what they have done essentially is to make them as much like civilian trials as is possible. and put a good deal of obstruction in the way of the procedure. they also can't try cases involving material assistance to terrorism because that's not a

recognized war crime. and they can't try conspiracy. so in essence what they have said is well, we just poured glue in your watch, and it doesn't work so, you might as well throw it away. i don't think you.

however, all of that information can be used for intelligence purposes, it can be used against other people. so they weren't giving up anything by failing to read him his miranda rights. and i think that whole miranda thing is basically a red herring. the justice department knows how to do this. i frankly find it shock ing sho someone who ran the best law enforcement agency in the world is disparaging the ability of the justice department to do this job. regardless of whether they were prosecuted. and as you say, they've had two years to investigate it. i'm sure they wouldn't have investigated this guy had they not had enough to convict him without his statements. but the idea that guantanamo is a good place for anyone at this point just seems -- seems preposterous. that's been a failure. guantanamo has been a disaster. >> you keep repeating that

guantanamo has three advantages that as far as i know aren't possessed by any facility in the united states in that it is remote, secure, and humane. >> okay. that will have to be the last word on that. we're never going to get to solve that. i would be remiss in not asking you about this, about the former vice president's scathing op-ed in "wall street journal," he and his daughter that he wrote today. you served with him in the bush administration. you understand why given the miscalculations and mishandling of this war that many say dick cheney is in no position to criticize anyone, especially the president? >> well, i can understand people making the statement. i think that the record how cann

the whole reason we went to war was faulty? that the mishandling happened after the invasion? and bring in more troops. >> it was based on faulty intelligence as to what he had at the time. >> but hang on. it wasn't just faulty intelligence. >> at time we went to iraq during the first iraq -- during the first iraq war, the united states was enormously surprised at how far saddam hussein had gone in developing an atomic weapons program. remember, the israelis bombed an atomic reactor in 1981. so he was dead set on getting atomic weapons. imagine him staying in power and

competing with the iranians to be the first kid on the block to get the islamic bomb. >> i understand that. with all due respect, nothing was found. no weapons of mass destruction. it took nine years longer than they promised and also cost trillions of dollars more, almost $2 trillion more than they estimated. thank you very mucher, many mukasey. thank you very much, jeffrey toobin. coming up, love behind bars. women who fall in love with convicted murders. meet a coupe whole met while he was on death row. now they're building a new life together. but first, cnn's the orange series "the sixties." watch tomorrow night 9 eastern. >> we will prevail in vietnam. >> 14,000 american dead. the war in vietnam has become the most divisive in 100 years. >> what vietnam did is introduce us to a new kind of america, one that was not pure. >> can't expect to do your job and feel pity for these people. >> the vietcong and the north

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bodies of three second graders lay in an arkansas ditch riddled with lacerations, skulls fractured, their hands and feet bound with their own shoelaces. the genitals of one of the boys severely mutilated. in the little town of west memphis, rumors spread fast about a satanic ritual killing. law enforcement went with the lead and rounded up three local teenagers, including 18-year-old damian eckles. eckles and his friends were all charged with murder and faced the death penalty. >> i'm being put on trial for three murders that i know i didn't do. i'm only 18 years old. my entire world had been destroyed. >> reporter: the teens were convicted and echols were sentenced to die. the men became known as the west memphis three. gaining national attention with

an hbo documentary on the case. >> i tried to watch it. i made it part of the way through the first one, and it was literally like being there in the courtroom again. and it's too much. it was an overload. >> reporter: but in new york city, a young woman couldn't keep her eyes off the screen. lori davis wrote a letter to echols in 1996, and a love affair quickly blossomed. three years after davis' first letter, she and echols were married in arkansas's tucker maximum security unit. but their story of love behind bars is not unique. even the most notorious convicted killers have attracted outside admirers and relationships often blossom across the prison walls. >> i think many of the women who are seeking out prisoners, even without their own knowledge are looking for someone who can't actually commit to an ongoing relationship. they find it thrilling, and at the same time, it's safe, right, because he is behind bars.

these are killers that are probably never coming out. >> the hillside stranglers, who california cousins were convicted of brutally killing ten young women. >> killing a broad doesn't make any difference to me. >> reporter: they both married behind bars. so did lyle and eric menendez, convicted of killing their own parents. even scott peterson sentenced to death for killing his wife and their unborn son received two marriage proposal his very first day on death row, say prison officials. for echols and davis, though, the story holds an unusual twist, a happy ending. in 2011, prosecutors made a deal with the west memphis three, and they were granted release. echols took his last walk along death row to freedom. and the love of his life. jean casarez, cnn. >> theirs is a true love story and it's testament to you never know who you're going to find love and where you're going to

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and then also falling in love in prison and getting married? joining me now is damien echols, known as one of the west memphis three who met his wife lori while he was on death row. thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you. >> listen, i'm all about transparency. you took issue to the story. you did not like being compared to some of the people who found love so to speak behind bars, right? >> i certainly did. >> why not? >> because i'm not a woman who fell in love with a murderer. i'm a woman who is educated, who educated herself about a case about an innocent man. and yes, we did fall in love and we married. i worked on his case for 16 years. i worked with the legal team. it's completely different. i don't associate myself with anyone else, whatever else is their business. but i don't want to be associated. >> and i understand. and you want to be in charge with how your story is told. >> exactly. >> any of would want. to i would want the same thing.

and that's what you're doing in this book. do you want to respond to that before we move on and talk about the book? >> yeah, it's, you know, for me i've been called just about everything a human being can be called at one point or another. so things like that don't get to me as much. but it's like, you know, you always want to protect the people you love, your loved ones, the people you care about. so it hurts me whenever lorri is hurt, when she has to deal with things like that. >> well, listen, we didn't mean to hurt anyone. so we apologize for that. >> thank you. >> but on a more positive note, what was it like to have someone obviously she is gorgeous, falling in love with you. you thought your life was over. she saw you in a documentary, a film about you, wrote you a letter. >> yeah, and you responded. she couldn't believe it. and you guys started communicating by letter and then by phone and you met. what was that like? >> you know, from the very beginning, from the very first letters i received from lorri, i knew this was someone completely

and absolutely unlike anyone i'd ever known before. i received letters from people all over the world because of the documentaries about the case and everything else. but lorri had a way of seeing things that most people wouldn't think anything about. just everyday mundane things that she would see them in a way or describe them in a way that made them seem almost magical. and it would make me want to see the world the way she saw the world. it sort of made me want to be a little bit more like her. and no one had ever done that. i had never felt that with anyone before. and i think we fell in love really quickly and the relationship progressed very rapidly. >> what made you believe in him? was it the first letter? i think it was in the first letter where i think he wrote i knew from the very beginning that there had to be something bigger, something good to come out of all of this. is that when you felt completely that he was not guilty? >> no. i saw "paradise lost" in 1996, the first documentary made about the case. and from that film you can take way that there has been an injustice, definitely has

happened. you don't get the whole story. but i took the time to go to the library. the internet was fledgling at the time. i went to the library. i researched the case. i went through microfiche. i did everything i could. >> you're dating yourself. >> this is 1996. >> right. >> i found out everything i . i knew a lot about the case going into it, as much as was available at the time. so i knew enough to know that, yes, i believed he was innocent. >> you guys finally met. you ended up moving, right down south. you quit your job here in new york city as a landscape architect, correct? you were making great money and you were making a quarter of what you said you were making in new york city, but you wanted to be close to him. you moved down. two years later you eventually married. you guys had never touched. you were speaking through glass. and then the first time you touched was what? >> our wedding ceremony.

>> did you consummate your marriage then or when you got out? >> no. the whole time you're in prison, we weren't even allowed to touch for the first four years together. after we were married, we were allowed to sit in the same room together, but that's it. you still have prison guards around you all the time, watching you constantly. but at least we were allowed to be together after that. >> i have to say, if you don't believe that's love, then that is love. and to stick with someone for that long, and the little things we take for granted like being able to speak to someone on the phone at will, see them at will, and even sleeping in the same bed, we take those things for granted. >> exactly. >> thank you. this is called "a love story on death row: yours for eternity." by damien and lorri davis. thank you. it's a beautiful book. appreciate. i love reading some of the letters. a true love story. >> thank you. we'll be right back. co: sometimes you don't know you need a hotel room

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