good evening. thank you for joining us. the question for the second hour of 360. how many americans who risked their lives for this country died waiting for care. off to night you will hear from a whistle blower who tells us why the answer allude us. she is alleging a cover-up beyond the one we reported on stranger than any you can imagine. bringing dead vets on paper at least back to life. keeping them honest tonight. also tonight, bowe bergdahl's latest stop after five years in captivity. what it says about the pace of captivity and rest of his life may look like. >> details on how investigators almost botched the investigation into jerry sandusky. tonight a rare interview with his wife dottie. why after countless allegations and convictions she still stands behind him? we begin with new trouble for the nation's biggest health care system at the va. beyond a new, deeply critical report that is out today you may have heard about. this is reporting to night you will see on the program. it goes beyond what whistle

blowers have told a congressional committee which is hearing testimony again tonight. a product of the surge of wounded warriors who gave so much in iraq, afghanistan, before that vietnam. the human consequences back here at home, of that flood of combat veterans. people asking for nothing more than timely access, the medical care, their country all of us promise them that they deserve. as our drew griffin on this program was first to report, many spend months waiting for it. you know that by now. some die waiting and some va officials have been covering up the problem. now we learned a cover-up may have be under way at the phoenix veterans hospital. this time a deliberate attempt to try to hide just how many veterans died while waiting for care. hide by trying to pretend on payer that those dead veterans are actually still alive. the allegation comes from the scheduling clerk who for the better part of a year says she was ordered to keep a secret waiting list in her desk drawer. pauline dewinter has never spoken publicly about any of tight night. senior investigator reporter

drew griffin has the exclusive interview. >> reporter: pauline dewinter, a scheduling clerk at phoenix va is coming forward. because she believes she knows something that is frankly unthinkable. that is saying something considering the shameful facts of what we know happened at this va. she says some one now is trying to hide the number of u.s. veterans who died here waiting for care. in seven cases so far, where in seven cases so far, where she has determined a veteran on a waiting list was in fact deceased, she says, some one above her has changed the record back, the veteran suddenly listed as alive. >> somebody is going on that electronic wait list and where

people are -- identified as being dead, somebody is changing that and saying "no they're not dead." >> correct. >> reporter: to hide the fact that people died on that list? >> that's my belief. >> reporter: what would be the other, any other purpose? >> there wouldn't be any other purpose. >> reporter: why? dewinter says the numbers of dead in this va wait list scandal may be even bigger than first reported. and someone she says, is trying to cover up the record. and that has been happening fairly recently? >> yes. >> reporter: that is a cover-up? >> yes. >> reporter: did you feel that the investigators are on to that? >> yes. >> reporter: because you told them? >> i have surrendered evidence, yes. >> reporter: if there ever was a doubt there was a secret waiting list at the phoenix va, dewinter says she is here to lay the doubts to rest. beginning early last year, she says she was told by managers to take requests for new appointments from veterans seeking care and hide them. what happened to those people? >> they went into a desk drawer. >> reporter: if you called for a new employment thinking you were

being placed on the electronic wait list, you were actually being placed on a piece of paper in somebody's desk drawer? >> correct. >> reporter: is that -- the secret list? >> yes. that would be the secret list. >> reporter: there is no doubt in your mind that was a secret list? >> no doubt. >> reporter: the secret list began in early 2013, she says, because of a waiting list for treatment here, that was simply getting out of hand. 1,700 veterans were on it. winter says, you couldn't get an appointment for at least nine months. and with 40 patients coming in each day, the list and the waits were growing longer. that was a problem. because nationwide the va had set a goal, every patient had to be seen within 14 days. the solution at the phoenix va according to dewinter and others inside this hospital, keep one

list that lied, showing veterans were getting appointments and another list, a secret list, that tallied the true and shameful backlog. >> so as long as the secret list kept growing the goal was being met. >> uh-huh. yes. >> reporter: that's terrible. >> it is beyond horrible. >> reporter: there simply were not enough doctors, not enough appointments to handle new patients. backlogged patients and yes, very sick patients. dewinter, a scheduling clerk, was making life-and-death decisions. >> and that really overtook even the wait list now i have a consult where veterans are very sick. so i have to ease up on the wait list.

it just sounds so wrong to say -- i worked these scheduled appointments so i at least, i felt the sickest of the sick were being treated. >> and you're making basically the triage decisions? >> yes. so you're bumping one veteran for the other based on who is the sickest? >> yeah. >> reporter: the stress she says was unbearable. then came the call she had to make in early december. she finally had found an appointment available for a navy veteran who had come to the va months earlier, urinating blood. >> i called the family. and that's when i found out that he was dead. >> dewinter would not tell us the patient's name, but it matches this story, reported on cnn early this spring. sally and teddy barnes told us their father a navy veteran died in 2013 after repeatedly denied

care at the phoenix va. >> they call me december 6th. he's dead already. >> reporter: they called you and said? >> i said, "what is this regarding?" she said, "we have a primary for him." i said, "really, you are a little too late, sweetheart." >> in one case, the family member said "you are a little too late, swret heaeetheart, he dead. you guys killed him." i apologized. they have no quarrel about telling you how they died and if they screamed. and this particular veteran was screaming, "please, do whatever you can. don't let the va do this to another patient. or another veteran. we do not deserve this type of treatment." >> the family member was telling you this? >> the family member was telling me this. and i promised her i would do everything mine power to never have this happen to another veteran again.

that's when -- dr. foote and i really started connecting about what was happening. >> reporter: in december of last year, dewinter and a va physician, named dr. sam foote told everything to the va's office of the inspector general. >> i thought that was a saving grace. i thought okay, this is it. this is going to be all over. you know? that wasn't. and we were waiting and waiting and waiting. >> reporter: and nothing happened. >> nothing, nothing we didn't hear anything. the leadership was telling us, oh, we passed everything, we are not doing anything wrong. we're not doing anything wrong. and people are still dying. we were giving up hope. that's when dr. hope decided we need to contact the media and we need help with this.

>> reporter: dewinter says until now she was too scared to come forward. the truth is -- she is scared. >> my life will change after -- this comes out. i will have people at work who are not going to like me because of what i have done. i have other people at work who say thank you for doing what you have done. >> mazininmazing -- amazing she forward. she is brave. she is incredibly brave to come forward. the most startling allegation in this report is that until very recently someone has been trying to hide the number of vets who have died. did you get any response from the va that could explain that? we sent detailed questions. got a bland response. it says the new acting secretary at the va is saying, we must work together to fix the unacceptable systemic problems in accessing va health care. the va is taking action to accelerate action and access veterans. i look at that as a blah, blah,

blah. they did not respond to allegations made by dewinter. >> there is a standing new independent report, exposing some of the worst horror stories yet about veterans' care. >> yeah, really horrific stuff. the office of special council, a group of government prosecutors they protect and investigate the claims made by whistle blowers inside the government like pauline dewinter. the agency released a letter to the white house, the president, which is really unreal, and details how the va ignored egregious examples of poor patient care for veterans. in one case, a veteran kept in a mental facility for eight years before ever being evaluated by a psychiatrist. eight years went by. >> they didn't see a psychiatrist. were not evaluated for eight years in a mental hospital? >> eight years. eight years. confirmed tonight in a hearing up on capitol hill.

it's just crazy. and these critical reports are ignored routinely. and the va according to the office of special council really doesn't acknowledge the fact that all of this abuse of care, harms the veterans. they kind of say, well, yeah, you know pretty bad. but there is no actual evidence that patients are harmed. these patients are dead, you know, many of them are. going to tell you right now. >> the more you reveal. the worse it gets. drew, reaction to drew's reporting from congressman jeff mill r wer who chairs the commin on veterans affairs. i spoke to him before the broadcast. >> what is your reaction? >> it is stunning. for somebody like this whistle blow tire have been forced to make decisions that only medical providers should be making, to

triage patients as to whether they should be put in a drawer is just certainly unconscionable. but even more so for the very people that were supervising the people making the decisions to have continued to get promotions, bonuses, and to fight, and to call these folks disgruntled employees, is beyond the pale. >> yeah, i say this without any disrespect to her. she is not a doctor. not even a nurse. she is an adadministrator, a clerk, for her to make life and death decisions is terrifying? >> and for the department to allow people to do that much less force them to do it, which is very apparent, what's been going on here. and i have a -- very great suspicion that this is not just in phoenix where they have forced scheduling clerks to do exactly what this lady has done. and there are protections for her, and i can only say this, that, that she is some one that we should all be very proved.

regardless of whatever the consequences are, she stepped out, and is helping bring this story forward. but as a whistle blower, she has protections at the federal level. >> this letter sent to president obama from the head of the agency that investigates whistle blower complaints saying the va didn't listen to what the whistle blowers were telling them month after month. think of people that could have been given care they desperately need if the va had listened to people trying to tell them what was going on. >> we have story after story that go all across this great country. they are said to be disgruntled employees. even dr. foote, a concerted effort to try to discredit him on capitol hill to say he was adisgruntled doctor because he

was told he needed to work for. no, these are great americans doing the right thing. i wish everybody would take heed to what they have said. >> the courage to come forward. risk your job. takes tremendous strength to do that. do you have faith that the va now is taking care of these problems, that they are ready to make sure veterans are getting the care that they deserve? >> i'm not going to have faith until we are absolutely sure every single veteran has gotten an appointment. one thing she talked about. not just prit marthe primary cas the con sults. i think we will find a huge backlog with the con susults. where people died in south carolina, georgia, pittsburgh whashgs peop where people should have gotten care much quicker. i will say this, i know the acting secretary is out. he is making some very positive changes. but the bureaucracy is still so big. there has to be accountability and people have to pay with their jobs, and in some instances there is criminal activity they should go to jail. >> congressman miller.

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attorney general reads like a case study how not to investigate a serial pedophile, sparked by allegations of politics delayed arrest and conviction of penn state football coach jerry sandusky. here is how the attorney general kathleen cane summarized the finding. >> this report found no direct evidence, no e-mail, confession, statement from anybody indicating that they were told to slow this down because of politics. this report also shows long periods of inexcusable, by inexcusable i mean even the parties involved couldn't offer an excuse for the delays. and, delays that quite honestly are unfathomable to most of us. >> according to the report, investigators at different agencies repeatedly failed to coordinate their efforts. three years went by before san dus yek w sandusky was convicted. he was sentenced to 30 to 60 years. throughout it all, dottie sandusky stood by him. and jason carroll spoke to her.

>> i think a lot of it was the media. i think jerry was found guilty before he ever went to trial. >> dty sdottie sandusky is unwag in her belief. she says her husband, former penn state assistant coach jerry sandusky is innocent and did not receive a fair trial. >> i have known him for 38 years, i have been married to him for 37. he has always been truthful to me. and, i have asked him, and we have talked about it. and, i, the stories are just -- i cannot believe the stories that have been told about him. >> was there a family discussion where jerry came to you all and said i did not do this? i did not do these things that i am being accused of? >> we kept it from the kids as long as we could. we did not know what was going to happen. that was really hard. we had to tell the kids. the kids questioned their dad. and he talked to them and he told them. and they believe their dad. >> at any point, did you have any doubt at all, did you say to

yourself i have known this man, practically my whole life. but is there a chance? no, i know who he is. i know who he is. and i know that he is not guilty. >> sandusky is not alone in her belief. >> this is not a situation where dottie is simply standing by her man and has no knowledge of the accusations. >> family confidant and documentary filmmaker, john zich believes in sandusky's innocence. >> when joe paterno was fired, it is a nuclear explosion that goes through the landscape of this case. and because of that, jerry sandusky loses all presumption of innocence. >> reporter: back in 1998, penn state police launched an investigation after a young

boy's mother reported sandusky had showered with her son on sc campus. no charges were filed. a police report shows an officer advised sandusky not to shower with any child. san dus y sandusky said he wouldn't. why did he keep showering with young boys? >> would it be smart to do it again. i have said that to jerry as well. i don't know if dottie has the. this is something jerry regrets. >> told not a good idea to do it again. then he does all it again. >> it was like, it wasn't like he took boys and took them to the shower. it was when he would work them out. it is a shower. a public place. people come and go. >> one thing i heard from people in this community repeatedly. she is deluding herself or buried things so deeply she is just unwilling to accept the truth? >> i -- i'm not that kind of a person. and i believe he is innocent. and if i didn't believe he was innocent, i would, not stand by

him. >> we first met dottie sandusky during a visit to the state prison in green county, pennsylvania. where her 70-year-old husband is serving a 30 to 60 year sentence. >> he is in a cell 23 hours a day. monday through friday. on the weekend. 24 hours. it's hard. we talk about what he is doing in prison. what has happened. you know. and i just -- i try to cheer him up. usually he cheers me up instead of me cheering him up. >> bhwhen we were at prison. i remember something you had brought up which was very telling to me. you referenced victim number nine. you became very angry that was the one i believe who had said when he was in the basement he called out for help and you should have heard. you said, i was here. and if someone had yelled. i would have said something. i'm paraphrasing. >> he said he screamed. he said he screamed. he also said we didn't feed him. if we did we brought his food done to the basement.

which is untrue. and i mean i can take you down to the basement. >> it is one flight down here. >> right. off awe is th is this the room where the boys would stay. >> where victim number nine said he screamed. >> from this room here. off a >> reporter: the young man known only as victim number nine during the trial testified sandusky raipd him ped him in t basement bedroom and screamed for help. >> if some one screamed. >> i would have heard it. >> since the trial, 26-year-old men have come forward settled claims with penn state, totaling nearly $60 million. all saying they were abused by sandusky as boys. >> reporter: in the face of all of that. why do you still believe? >> because, he is innocent. >> why do you think so many would say the same thing? about jerry sandusky? >> i think that they could have been manipulated by people. i think a lot of them have

financial problems. i just -- i don't believe their stories. >> reporter: nor does she believe the couple's youngest adopted son, matt, who told police he too had been abused after previously telling a grand jury his father had not molested him. he settled with penn state for an undisclosed amount. jerry sandusky responded in writing about the allegations. this is from february 3rd. a letter from jerry. i have been consumed with how or if to respond to matt. i wrote, rewrote, and rewrote. it ended with four pages of writing that just sit. it's very confusing. is that the same for you? is it confusing for you? >> i don't know whether someone talked to him, whether he saw money? you would have to ask matt. i don't know. >> reporter: would you want to reconcile with matt? >> i would like to talk to matt. i really miss seeing his kids. they were part of our lives.

and the hurt that they must be going through. i, i would love to talk to matt just to see, you know, why? and what is, what his thoughts are. >> reporter: sandusky lost his most recent appeal but will not give up trying to prove his innocence. writing in another letter, my biggest hope at the moment is that somehow, people will realize how unfair everything was and that judges will have the courage to examine everything. >> i believe in god. and i believe god has a purpose. and some purpose will come out of this. that he will see us through. >> huh, joining me now, cnn legal analyst, former prosecutor, sunny hostin. >> extraordinary to hear this woman standing by him, despite dozens of people who have come forward? >> it seems remarkable. having tried child sex crimes, spent a lot of my career doing

that. denial is just a classic response. it is terribly common. i think what is so odd about this particular case is there is overwhelming evidence of his guilt. generally when i tried these sex crimes, child sex crimes, you have no witnesses or you have one witness or you have a child self-reporting. now you have someone, not one, but 26 people, you have dottie having been in the courtroom, her own adopted son says, this happened. and in the face of all of that, there is still this remarkable denial. >> the pedophiles that i have interviewed and, spent time with, are really the most manipulative people i have ever met. in many cases, some of them grab kids. some of them groom kids over a length of time. jerry sandusky certainly seemed to have done. the most charitable explanation of his wife is he could have been manipulating her as well. lying to her? >> i thought about that. i think you are right. i have interviewed pedophiles in my line of work. and they are master manipulator

as most good criminals are, that's why they're able to reoffend. that's part of it. i think part of it when you interview and you speak to wives of pedophiles part of it is my goodness, if i married this man, what is wrong with me? there is that, i think self blame. a failed mother. a failed wife. i think it is more about that quite frankly. than manipulation. >> hard to believe you can live with somebody for 35 years and not have some sort of suspicion -- that something is going on? >> you know, i think in a case like this. and in many of the cases that i tried. i don't believe that they didn't have some where in the depths of their soul some sort of worry. and some sort of feeling. >> showering with boys. she is saying, well he was working out with the boys. i mean, that's still doesn't make any sense. >> it is odd. if you heard her what she said during the interview with jason. what was remarkable. i can't believe it. she can't bring herself to believe it. i had people sitting in my offices, mothers turning against

their children, saying their children were lying. i have got to tell you, there were classic signs in this case of grooming. this fascination with these boys. she must have known. she should have known. when i prosecuted cases, it is still a very unpopular position. i wanted to go after the mothers. these are witnesses to sex abuse abuse, enablers, putting children in danger and partly responsible. >> sunny hostin, thank you. >> next, former taliban captive, sergeant bowe bergdahl, the new phase of his integration. the latest on where he is treated and what it involves. and iraqi air strikes have not stopped the advance of isis fighters. believed they have yet taken more territory. we'll tell you where. can also lead to tooth decay and bad breath? [ exhales deeply ] [ male announcer ] well there is biotene. specially formulated with moisturizers and lubricants, biotene can provide soothing relief

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army sergeant bowe bergdahl has taken a significant step. the former captive no longer treated as an in patient in texas. moved to out patient care. he was held for five years of course by the taliban after walking off his base. his release after the controversial prisoner swap sparked a bitter debate. the seventh person to go through the army reintegration program. and i am joined with the latest. he is still at the army medical center transferred from inpatient to outpatient. what does that mean exactly? >> he is still at san antonio in brook army medical center where he has been the last ten days or so. that will continue. essentially this is the next step in this process. and for the, since he arrived from germany to san an tony he had been kept in this hospital like room with no television set. that sort of thing. very limited number of people who were, around him, now he has

moved to another part of the -- of this base. and officials there aren't really saying, describing the current living conditions only to say he is being exposed to more and more people. and that all of this is being done in hopes of getting him to talk about his experiences and slowly reintegrating him and moving him back into everyday life. >> two things -- a, has the army begun their investigation. or, begun to, to, interview him about what occurred, not just in captivity but also in terms of how he left the base. also has his family seen him? >> well we do know the investigation is going on, whether or not that includes bowe bergdahl at this point. it doesn't appear that is the case. i spoke with army officials there, in san an tony who said he is still fully into the reintegration process. while that is going on. doesn't sound like he would be interviewed or be part of the investigation that the army is doing into, into his disappearan disappearance, whether or not he deserted his unit. as far as his parents are

concerned. it is interesting. because up until the end of last week, we hadn't gotten any indication that he had spoken or wanted to speak with his parents just yet. but we asked about that today. they have said all along, meeting with the family, is an important part of the reintegration process. army officials in san antonio. a spokesperson for the bergdahl family will not say if that, phone call or a meeting has taken place yet. >> ed, appreciate it. a lot more happening. susan hendricks has a 360 bulletin. susan. >> the united states can lose lethal force against a u.s. citizen overseas if that person is part of an enemy organization, seeking to attack the u.s. and cannot be apprehended according to a once secret memo released by federal appeals court. the memo outlines the just fi skags for killing american born suspected operative, killed in a drone attack in yemen three years age the government fought for years to keep the memo

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breaking news out of iraq, isis fighters taking more territory. believed they regained control of the fighter out of an air base, as well as air face in

talifar in the northwest and gaining ground. arwa damon witnessed the fighting there. >> reporter: the battle lines drawn. for over a week not crossed. then came the isis assault. they came at us from three directions, colonel ahmed tells us, the battle lasted for six hours. in the distance, an iraqi mlitary vehicle commandeered by isis, the intersection is strategic. saddam hussein's hometown of tikrit in that direction, to the north, kirkuk, and iraqi kurdistan to the east and then to the south. a two-hour drive, a straight shot to the capital. >> also, in that capital, secretary of state kerry meeting top leaders promising help if iraqis help themselves. >> the support will be intense, sustained, and if iraq's leaders take the necessary steps to bring the country together, it will be effective. it will allow iraqi forces to

confront isis, effectively and in a way that protects iraq's sovereignty while also respecting america's and the region's vital interests. >> a key u.s. condition, beginning the process of a -- a key request, al-maliki to rise above sectarianism. nic robertson and arwa damon. arwa, isis continue to gain ground, what's the latest on their advance? >> the most strategic gains, the capturing of the iraqi border posts along the border with syria. what this means, isis now controls massive swaths of territory inside iraq directly linked to the territory that it controls inside syria. giving it utter freedom of movement whether it comes to,

weaponry, military armor, and personnel. this is a key strategic route that they now control through anbar province, the euphrates river valley and gives them direct access to the outskirts of baghdad. andersen. >> nic, going to form a new government by july 1, is there any indication in the short term that that will change the situation on the ground? >> there really isn't, andersen. this is a process that begins, 30 days after the process to nominate a president, then another 15 days to nominate a prime minister, key contested positions. then another 30 days by the constitution to have a government form. we are talking about 2 1/2 months. the real immediate threat is isis fighters digging in and getting stronger and being harder to dislodge as well as the the iraqi army not being ready to take them on. so, the process we are talking

about, it is not one that really seems to be designed to actually deal with that real immediate threat that is right now, andersen. >> arwa, in terms of military folks you are talking about, you are on the kurdish side up in the north. how much support is there for the idea of american advisers coming? >> well it really depends on who you are talking to. there is a lot of wariness when it comes to u.s. involvement because of the american time of in iraq. in the word of the governor of the province of kirkuk he put it simply. americans train a checkpoint army. great at check points and creating traffic jams but are clearly incapable of stopping the kind of offensive that isis and sunni insurgents launched. america need to be careful when it comes to iraq and learn from the lessons of its deadly era that it spent here. realize if it is going to get involved in iraq it needs to reach out to sunni tribes. the sunni tribes will not turn on isis until maliki is out of power. >> in baghdad, a huge show of

force. parade by the militia linked to the shiia cleric in sadir city in baghdad. i know you covered this. how are militias going to be used. wit so much territory lost, why are they parading around the streets. shouldn't they actually be doing something? >> yeah, kind of a double message there. part of the message was to al-maliki, message is time for you to go. for isis fighters, you come near us, our shrines. we'll take you on. the message from the top religious cleric is we don't want is militias. we want everyone fighting in the army. the army failed to fight in a cohesive way. how are they going to draft militias in a cohesive way. the real issue is that we could

be unleashed if sectarian violence kicks off. >> a verdict that outraged journalists and activists. three al-jazeera journalists deattend while reporting in egypt are convicted and sentenced to years in prison. we have reaction from ivan watson, reporting from egypt, and exclusively with one of the three men.

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egypt faced outrage after a judge convicted three journalists of aiding muslim brotherhood, spreading false news and endangering egyptian security. held six months two of the journalists, face seven years in prison. the third, third producer, got ten years. the extra three years for apparently possessing a single bullet all. three deny the >> that's crazy. >> finish. >> that's crazy. that's absolutely crazy. >> plenty more, denouncing the

judge's decision including ivan watson who joins us. the convictions and sentences for three journalists you reported from egypt, worked closely with one of the men does any of this make sense? >> it is absurd. it is disgraceful. these men the only crime they committed is journalism, some of them, the australian had been in the country, i think, less than a couple of weeks. another, moody, he worked as a producer for cnn, as a freelancer, for, for more than a year. these guys, he had only been working with al-jazeera less than two months. the allegation, suggestion they were some how involved with terrorism, or linked with the muslim brotherhood is absolutely absurd. >> you also wrote about one man's heroism you witnessed firsthand. what did you seep? >> well this is part of what has me so angry.

i personally witnessed him rescue a young egyptian woman when a mob outside the israeli embassy in cairo attacked a public u.s. public television crew in 2011. i personally witnessed as moody protected an egyptian producer who was surrounded by dozens of angry young men, he protected her with his body, screaming, you know, she is egyptian, she is a journalist. he saved this woman single-handedly, brought her to a these horrific mob against egyptian women in the streets of cairo. why is a man like this now sentenced to seven years in prison along with other journalists whose only crime was to commit acts of jurmism? it's an outrage. >> and the trial itself seemed pretty much like a farce. >> absolutely. i mean, the kind of things the evidence that was brought against them, they ran a video by an entirely different company, sky news australia, used a bbc podcast as evidence.

they aired part of a documentary on somalia also by the bbc. it had no links whatsoever to this al jazeera crew. i can speak for moody. i've known him since 2006. we worked together in dubai. this is a brave patriotic egyptian journalist. he was not a fan of the muslim brotherhood. he was a liberal. he is nothing close to a terrorist. and the fact that egypt has decided that the authorities have decided to convict one of the best and brightest in their country who was just doing his job, again, is a travesty of the law. and governments around the world, human rights organizations they've all united as well as journalists to condemn this because when we start getting thrown in jail for the things we write and say, that's basically the beginning of the end of any semblance of democracy in this world. >> extraordinary. ivan watson, thanks. >> thanks, anderson. >> when we come back, we'll

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to remember a friend, a man we all on this broadcast came to know, a man i came to like enormously, fouad ajami,

tremendous grace. his opinions though often controversial came from a place of compassion and caring for those whose voices were not being heard, those forced to live under despots' cruel war. he was born in southern lebanon and in his 6 years, he traveled far and saw much. he wrote a half dozen books on the middle east, countless articles and taught generations of students. he was a supporter of u.s. intervention in iraq and for that many criticized him. i valued his friendship and sense of justice. two years ago, we traveled to turkey and talked with syrian who's had fled their homes and were still trying to come to grips with their new lives. >> professor, you've been to these camps before. the people here have great dignity. they're trying to hold their head up. but they really do feel abandoned by much of the world. >> they feel exactly they use the world forsaken by the world. i have been here before but i didn't have a camera with me. i came with a notepad. the camera is a different

instrument and a different creature. these people want the world to bear witness to their suffering and to hear them. the camera in a way they have this relationship to it. drawn to it, because in fact, they remain convince nad should the people know about them, should the people of the world see what they have suffered, should they understand that they're not terrorists they're not al qaeda, many of them will try to convince you, look, we have nothing to do with al qaeda. we're not terrorist groups. one man told me i don't even have rifles in our town let alone heavy weapons. so they want the world to understand them and they want the world to bear witness and i think they also see the camera as a way of holding onto the memory of this lost world. the world that is very achingly close. it's very close to here but it is not yet retrievable to them. >> that was two years ago in turkey. the news came yesterday that our friend fouad ajami died. cancer was the cause. our thoughts now go to his family and friends. all of us here shall miss him

very, very much. we'll see you again 11:00 p.m. tonight. tonight. cnn tonight" starts right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >> 23 million people can't be wrong. that's how many americans were watching at one point during sunday's usa/portugal world cup heartbreaker, the most watched soccer match in united states history. what has happened to america? what's behind our new obsession with the world's favorite game? i'm going to talk to the proud family of team usa captain clint dempsey. also the superlawyers who give new meaning to the phrase odd koppel. they went head to head in one of the biggest supreme court battles in history and now they're on the same side. make sure you tweet us using the #ask don. first, i want to give you my take on the world cup and why so many are so interested. yes, some people, the diehard fans love the game. but let's just be honest here.

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