aust treea to move forward in the world cup. because there is this history be there's been these whispers and the german team and u.s. team denied there is any impropriety going on. but people will be watching. >> i just hope team usa wins. let's talk about basketball. lebron james exercising a termination clause in his contract on july 1st. to become a free agent. you interviewed him for your show. give us a sense of what this means. >> it doesn't mean something astounding. this doesn't mean that lebron will never play for the miami heat again. it just means he put the team on notice to say hey, i have the option to listen to other teams and sign with them and i am going to do that listening. it tells miami you better get a better roster going because they clearly didn't have the roster to beat the spurs in the finals. and it tells other teams, hey, we expect the clippers to make a

run at lebron. we expect the rockets to make a run at lebron. and yes, the cavaliers probably will as well. no one sees that as the surest path. but gee, it would be interesting to see how they would try to pitch him, right? >> he will get the maximum amount of money you're allowed to get, right? no matter where he goes. >> he will get more money if he resigns with the heat. he would get actually $33 million more if he stays in miami at signs a max deal. that with be enough, honestly, to convince players. but lebron made it clear, he is interested in championships and who are the other players around him. l.a. clippers can offer up chris paul and a coach in doc rivers. rockets can offer up james and harden. >> he can go wherever he wants because he is lebron james. rachel, thanks very much. maybe he will come to washington

and play for my washington wizard. you never know. >> you never know. >> you can always follow us on twitter. just tweet me @wolfblitzer. you can watch us live or dvr the show so you won't miss a moment. that's it for me. thanks for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." now let's step into the room on "crossfire." >> is the irs just incompetence tent or are they breaking the law? >> if you have any evidence of that, i would be happy to see it. >> i asked a question. >> and i answered it. >> on the left. van jones and stephanie cutter. opt right, newt gingrich and s. e. cupp.

will today's primaries be the tea party's revenge? plus, the outrage of the day. tonight on "crossfire." >> welcome to "crossfire." on the right we have newt gingrich and s. e. cupp. tonight, a little reality to the right wing frenzy over finances. >> it is factually true that we were several million dollars in debt. everybody assumes that what happened in the intervening years was automatic. i'm shocked that it happened. i'm shocked people still want me to come give talks. so i'm grateful. >> when you say you pay ordinary taxes, secretary clinton, other people who are really well off who pay taxes maybe just off capital gains, can you understand that would strike people as being out of touch? >> yeah, but she's not out of touch. and she advocated and worked as a senator for things that were

good for ordinary people. >> he's correct. and despite what you might be hearing from the right, most americans agree with the former president. 59% respond they thought she would do a good job. you don't get numbers like that by being out of touch. so i have advice for both side of the debate. republicans, there is not going to work out the way you think it is. at the same time, the clintons need to be more comfortable with their wealth and stop being more defensive about it. they worked hard to get where they are. every american want to get there, too. s.e., i do think this is not working out the way republicans would like it to. she consistently wins the blue collar vote. 59% of people in the cnn poll think she does right for the middle class and 59% think she does what she cares about.

that's what matters most. >> i will give you another poll. 55% of democrats saying they want another democrat to challenge hillary clinton. and 13% of democrats say they don't want hillary clinton to run. that means -- >> that has nothing to do with whether or not she is good with the middle class. >> she is not anointed. >> that is not what that poll is saying. >> let me finish. no way to positively spin the precampaign, campaign tour in terms of her setting the right tone. she doesn't do a good job. it does not help that her husband has to come to her defense. that doesn't look good either. >> they are not plucking hillary clinton out of nowhere and putting her in this debate. >> having worked on some campaigns, you take a look at what somebody's record is before you can see if a narrative sticks. this narrative won't stick on her. >> you may be right. tactically, this might not work out to our benefit. but you cannot spin this has

been a good tour. it hasn't. >> this isn't about republicans winning. >> you think there is not a machine out there that is pushing this stuff? you've been in politics for a while. >> they didn't rush over to hillary clinton and say, please revive this story another day. and do it so on sunday so we get three or four days of it. this is not some republican plot. you have to understand the problem bill clinton has. bill is to politics what fred astair was to dancing. he want to have ginger rogers out there dancing just as fred astaire did. so he spent several days in a row saying, come on honey, can you do it. and she goes, oomph. today he stood up courageously. nice she was in the audience

studying him. i hope she learned a little bit about how do this. i think there's a big problem. i don't think has a candidate that she dances very well. >> a couple things going on here. first of all, i this i that hillary clinton politically, what she fought for, the middle class loves and is for and i think if you put what she is up to and what she has been fighting for against any republican, oh, look, she makes mistakes, putting her foot in her mouth, you're just mad because republicans have been doing that for the whole past two years and now you finally got a democrat making mistakes. now what she's got to do, she's just got to get comfortable. say, there's no american anywhere that would turn down $80 million. we got 80 million. we're happy. we're not defensive about that. we want you to be successful to and move on. she is not comfortable with it yet. >> do you think it really is a comfort issue? or do you think that she just doesn't fit in with today's modern democratic party on these economic issues?

>> have you two things going on pt a left economic of the party. elizabeth warren seems very comfortable. there is a general population that is frustrated with wall street. all of that is not good for hillary clinton. but bill clinton is just as successful and he can get over the hump. he is comfortable being successful. a lot of people are not yet. >> so by comparison, is it a bad contrast? >> i think we are coming that from the wrong place. hillary clinton is still hand down beating anybody in the head to head for presidential. not that anyone declared. including with middle class voters. >> by double-digit. >> she is the one thern r person in the race, assuming she gets into it, she is winning on this issue. she has a lifetime of fighting for these issues. you cannot underestimate that. republicans haven't won on this since 2004. >> you are too good a

professional to believe what you just said. >> i can't believe you just complimented me. >> that's not going to be a compliment. >> wait for it, wait for it. >> no, no. you were very professional when you help ed -- here is the poin. she is the most admired woman in america, after the u.s. senate, after four years of secretary of state. who are they matching against? no one who has run nationally. now, if the thing were reversed and you were looking at a republican -- >> that's not true -- >> rand paul. >> romney. the bush family has been running nationally since ways born. and she trounces jeb bush. you don't have anybody remotely in league with her. that's what you are saying. >> yeah. with name recognition. >> if even if you account for that, she is still beating them. >> by a narrow margin. with no issues before the campaign starts. >> you can bring those issues

up. >> let when point out what one lefty snark monger -- i don't know, anna marie of the guardian. she is on the right or left. she said that hillary clinton was a insider who claims to be an outsider. she is truly well off and a truly terrible class warrior. does the left attacking hillary clinton, which they will do over the course of the next few months and years, is that going to be fatal potentially? >> i don't think so. you literally have people who say, i hope hillary get it. she should be our general election candidate. but they want her to be challenged. they want other people raising issues about wall street. and hopefully getting her tougher and ready for prime time. but the idea that whatever

differences there are between my wing of the party and clinton wing are this big compared to the kass em between us and people in the republican party who seem to be perfectly happy to have stalemate here and no answers for the middle class. >> first of all, the answers your party brought to the middle class led to the longest recession since the great depression. dramatic decline in the ability of young people to get jobs. >> we got a chance to -- you won't let it pass -- >> let's remember, the policies that got us into the crash in the first place. policies you guys are still pushing. tax cuts for those at the top. nothing for the middle. nothing to help people afford college. deregulation. repeal reform. >> i have a request for you now, isn't this whole thing a little bit ludacris? the entire political class is sort of attached to wall street like a tick. just sucking as much money as it can. now we are going, oh, any god.

hillary clinton, she is rich and -- isn't at the end of the day a big part of the problem that the whole political class way off. >> wasn't the whole middle class -- >> that had nothing do. >> now we give hillary a pass, right? >> this is not his connection to wall street. it was his claiming what was it a hup thousand jobs he created. when he bankrupted companies and laid people off. >> how many jobs have the clintons created, other than the clinton foundation? >> 20 million. >> 1 million? >> 20 million. >> you mean with the republican congress -- >> oh, too busy doing other things that had nothing to do with jobs. >> nice try. >> okay. we spent all this time talking about the clintons. they are fun. and they may be important in 2016. but they are irrelevant in 2014. next, i'll explain the real

problem democrats should be talking about. but first, today's crossfire quiz. how many people are employed by the internal revenue service? is it 17,000? 43,000? or 93,000? we'll have the answer when we get back. ♪

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irs. but we still don't know how many may have broken the law because their computers keep crashing and their e-mail keeps disappearing. so let me share with you a problem that should trouble democrats even more. in the middle of iraq ecollapse, syria's collapse, ukraine's collapse, the veteran's affairs scandal, the irs scandal. and 60,000 children illegally crossing the border, democrats need to ask themselves how badly is president obama going to hurt them on election day. at this point in 2010 the president's net approval rating was plus 4. now it is minus 14. that's 18 point swing. if the republicanis won the house, when the president was plus 4, imagine what is going to happen this fall if he is still minus 14. doesn't that level of disapproval worry you for the fall campaign? >> you know, it would worry me, except i look at who we are up

against. first of all, you guys right now, are riding high. jumping up and down on the pogo stick. every scandal you can find. 19 t 1998, as you know, you wound up actually losing. a long way fween now and november. i think a lot of cross current out there in the country. i say this, i'm trying to figure out what republicans want to do when they win. they used to talk about repeeling obama care. used to be all against the gay community, haven't heard that lately. even among republicans, all have you is scandal. i would be worried about that. are you worried about that? >> it is a fair point. the transition from 2014 to 2016 will be tough. if we don't start pushing our economic messages and our solutions instead of just these scandals. but let me just take issue, these are not little scandals. these are big scandals. and if the american people equate the government with the

irs, and the v.a., i could go on and on and on, this does not bode well for ademocratic agenda. >> s.e., i want to take issue with something you said. you said the republicans would do very well in 2014. where, exactly? if you look at the priority senate faces, in iowa, he is up four point in the head-to-head. >> despite tens of millions of ads against her, she is up for it. democrats are running very smart campaigns in these tough senate races. we have history running against us. the president is, you know, is down in the polls. you know, there is a lot going on in the world that is being -- that he has to deal with. >> being up in june isn't great. we've got a lo long way to go. >> republicans have been running

a lot of negative ads against democrats for ma moes. historical trends against democrats and they are running their own, their own campaign. i think you are sell britting a little too early. >> maybe. but i'm okay about it. >> i think we have to work very hard and put out a positive agenda. i think we have to do a lot of things. but plus 4 a u.s. senator, she is still below 50. >> yes. in a state that is very for democrats to win it. >> as inducomumbent senator -- >> i want it talk about this almost addiction to scandal going on. you have some things that are real. the v.a. thing is real. disgusting, despicable. we should be united as a country. my dad is a veteran. this is not acceptable. this irs thing, number one, progressive organization

including, making news the progressive groups coming in very hard -- this is what happened. a bunch of groups jumped in trying to get 503-c designation. you use a pac for an election not a 503-c. >> the american people feel as though they've been stonewalled on this story since its inception. they've been stonewalled by an administration that quickly handed them a couple of low level bureaucrats. that didn't pass the smell test. then they got lois learner who wouldn't answer any questions. "the new york times" is burying an irs story on a-19 and putting a phony scandal about chris christie on the front page. >> i'm going to give you something. i am not going to sit here and try and defend all the

bureaucratic shenanigans at the irs. i don't know enough about it. frankly, if e-mails are disappearing, that wore ries me too. but that they should not be giving 503-c status to groups who say they want to influence politics, that's across the board. >> one of the groups that wants the c-3 status is actually running a candidate in miss sip tonight against an incumbent republican. there's a primary going on in mississippi. and i think that this should be a concern for republicans. if mcdaniel wins, he's extremist, he's despicable. his victory helps keep senate democratic control of the senate. why are they saying such bad things about him, newt? >> because they're trying to re-elect thad cochran. it's a very tough race. and this state senator shocked

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welcome back to "crossfire." now time for my outrage of the day. the date march 10, 1959. pennsylvania germ o phobe johnny garno files his patent for the first service table and the sneeze guard was born. now it's required by law in all retail and self-service food bars but germ-wielding scofflaws refuse to be contained by such capricious barriers. you've seen them the old man at the salad bar who sticks his finger in the salad dressing. the insolent child who puts his snot-covered mitts all over the desert bar. when none other than the president himself made the defy

ant reach over the sneeze guard at chipotle. twitter did not take kindly. they proclaimed get on the other side of that sneeze guard, you monster. and one called for impeachment and exile. look, the president is free to contaminate his own kitchen, but when it comes to the people's restaurants, have you no decency, sir? >> seriously? >> this is going to be another one of van's republicans -- >> is that called a sneeze guard. >> that's called a sneeze guard. >> did you see him sneeze? >> i don't know. i wasn't there. >> did you see nim touch anything? >> i don't know. i wasn't there. but the sneeze guard's there for a reason. they patented it for a reason. >> i think we need better things to talk about. thank god there's a world cup game that we can talk about. >> indeed, that is more important than the health of our

nation. >> god forbid somebody gets a cold. >> at least we have obama care. now, let's check on our results. should there be term limits in congress? right now 87% of you say yes, 13% of you say no. >> we talked about this. >> what's your view? >> no, because i asked, are they popular? and we all agreed they're popular. >> but they're terrible. >> but to a person, no one at this table is supersupportive of term limitslimits. >> we have term limits in california and the latino community has a lot more political strength, only good thing. everything else has been terrible. >> newt, you know more about this than anyone sitting at the table. there has to be some mechanism that electives have to feel like they have to earn their keep in congress. the biggest problem there is gerrymandering where you're redrawing districts where they're not competitive races. >> as we're discovering you can have a jergerrymandered primaryd

it doesn't stop the trouble because somebody is running against you in your own situation. >> the debate will continue as well as on facebook and twitter. join us tomorrow for another edition of "crossfire." erin burnett "out front" starts right now. >> next iraq under attack. american officials now telling cnn up to 10,000 militant fighters are in the country across the border in syria. plus bill clinton riding to hillary's rescue. but did you just make things a whole lot worse? and world cup soccer player takes a bite, literally, out of the competition. and it's not the first time he's done it. talk about a fetish. let's go "out front." good evening, everyone. i'm erin burnett. "out front" tonight the fight to save ir.