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talking about tomorrow. first, we're getting late word of a deadly domestic shooting near houston. police say four children, two adults are dead and a 15-year-old was rushed to the hospital. police are locked in a standoff with the suspected gunman, who is believed to be an in-law of the adult victims. meanwhile, is tomorrow the day that nba superstar lebron james reveals his next career move? espn is reporting that james met with miami heat officials this afternoon, but has yet to meet with the cleveland cavaliers. so stay tuned. boy. what a contentious show this was. i enjoyed it. i hope you did. thanks for watching. i'm don lemon. that's it for us tonight. "ac 360" starts right now. good evening. thanks for joining us tonight. breaking news from president obama on immigration, and we'll take you to the first time to a spot on mexico's southern border so you can see how all those kids are getting here. also tonight, detectives in the cooper harris murder case. trying to recreate what that toddler went through before he
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died. that and new revelations from his father's online life. mayor, crook, and convict ray nagin. he now learns how long he'll serve his time in prison. we begin tonight with the breaking news. president obama in texas. the state with the longest southern border addressing the biggest problem there in years. the flood of unaccompanied kids into this country. kids mainly from honduras, guatemala, el salvador, driven out by violence, lured away by human smugglers with empty promises, arriving by the 100s in the united states every day. tonight in austin, texas, after an airport meeting that almost did not happen because of politics, the president met with texas governor rick perry. he called the meeting constructive. says he is interested in solving the problems, not in photo opes. he expressed plenty of frustration, however, at the politics surrounding this, lawmakers who he believes fairly or not have been putting politics first. we also had a clear warning for anyone thinking of sending their kids north. >> while we intend to do the
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right thing by these children, their parents need to know that this is an incredibly dangerous situation. and it is unlikely that their children will be able to stay. and i've asked parents across central america not to put their children in harm's way in this fashion. right now there are more border patrol agents and surveillance resource on the ground than at any time in our history. and we deport almost 400,000 migrants each year. but as soon as it became clear that this year's migration to the border was different than in past years, i directed fema to coordinate our response at the border, members of my cabinet, my staff have made multiple trips to facility there's. and we're also addressing the root of the problem. i sent vice president biden and secretary kerry and secretary johnson to meet with central
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american leaders, as well as working with our international partners to go after smugglers who are putting their kids' lives at risk. the challenge is, is congress prepared to act to put the resources in place to get this done? another way of putting it, and i said this directly to the governor is are folks more interested in politics or are they more interested in solving the problem? if they're interested in solving the problem, then this can be solved. if the preference is for politics, then it won't be solved. >> that's not all he said, nor all that has been said about what he said, covering it all for us tonight, michelle kosinski at the white house and chief congressional correspondent dana bash. the president had pretty strong words. we just heard some for congress, specifically, house republicans. >> right. he also said it's time to rediscover negotiation and compromise. and it's not really compromising when you won't give on certain topics.
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and the president even threw out a compromise of his own. he said governor rick perry and others are asking for national guard troops immediately to be stationed at the border and help in the process of helping these children. and the president hasn't done that yet. he okay, well, coy do that if you guys will agree to pass this supplemental request for nearly $4 billion, anderson. >> it's interesting, though. the president talked about a lot of his officials visiting the border many times. the president himself not visiting the border. that's drawn a lot of attention. many in his own party were calling for him to go down there. he was asked about it during the press conference. i want to play his response. >> this isn't theater. this is a problem. i'm not interested in photo ops. i'm interested in solving a problem. >> i mean, you could say, though, it's not just a photo op that could have made a strong statement on the border. >> right. this has been a weird situation from almost -- whatever angle you look at it. it's almost gotten to the point that now you think, well, if the president does go down to the
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border, after all this daily pressure from republicans and even some democrats, then it looks like he is just bowing to the pressure. it might also be according to some analysts, maybe he doesn't want to look like this as big a problem as it is. if he calls that a photo op and theater, well, when he goes to visit victims of a tornado, or a mudslide, is he saying that that's just a photo op and just heater? so the white house is aware that it doesn't look good even to many democrats. but are they going to go down there? we don't know at this point. >> dana, to the point of immigration reform and the supplemental bill which the president was pushing today, partisan politics are a very real issue obviously in washington. the president addressed that as well today. i want to play that. >> i think it's fair to say that these days in washington, everybody is all of the sudden concerned about everything falling victim to the partisan politics. you know, if i sponsored a bill declaring apple pie american, it
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might fall victim to partisan politics. i get that. >> there is partisan politics, dana, being played on both sides around this issue. i mean republicans say look, what about repealing the law or changing the law that was passed in 2008 that is permitting the special treatment of kids not from mexico, but kids from other parts of central america for democrats, that's no go for a lot of reasons. >> that's exactly right. on that i think too, to be fair, that's probably more of a substantive difference than political difference. but of course, anderson, nobody in this town could say with a straight face that there aren't politics involved in this. in general when you talk about immigration and right now when you look at the calendar, we are july of 2014 a midterm election year and an election where republicans are very much focused on their base anymore. republican who has run over the past seven or eight years knows
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that their base really doesn't want them to do anything but talk very loudly about securing the border. so of course, he is right. if apple pie as american were attached to border security, he might have a very chance. >> dana, with the crisis unfolding, bringing the lack of immigration reform back to the forefront, do you think congress might have more of an appetite to pass legislation? congressman kantor losing, many thought immigration reform was dead. could this crisis resurrect it? or is that a no-go? >> before this election of 2014, no go. it's just not going to happen. and let me tell you why. when the president talks about the politics here, he is right to really far extent in this sense. there are a number of republicans who want to do immigration reform, but agree tactically that the speaker should not do it now because, again, this is an election, a midterm election where they want to fire up their base, and this would simply divide them. instead they said let's wait until after this election and
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focus on a very electorate, which is the national republican party. the question now whether this has gone so calcified if even that's going to happen before the end of the president's turn. >> dan narcotics appreciate it. michelle kosinski as well. stay with us, dan. that we're going to come back to you shortly. we're certainly hearing a lot from the president and others tonight. loud impatience, significantly complicating not just his efforts, but any efforts from either party to figure out what to do. take today's meeting. until he changed his mind late today, texas governor rick perry didn't even want to be caught on camera out on the tarmac shaking the president's hand. didn't want to do what republican chris christie did or what republican arizona governor did jan brewer and then republican governor charlie crist. they took heat from their party, and the climate has gotten even more partisan, even more harsher since then which may explain recent remarks from governor perry that are raising eyebrows. in addition to being factually unfounded, they're pure partisan red meat. they're also not entirely in
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character for the governor who also runs a state full of immigrants, legal and otherwise. listen to the governor at a primary debate a couple years ago talking about educating undocumented immigrants. >> but if you say that we should not educate children who have come into our state for no other reason than they've been brought there by no fault of their own, i don't think you have a heart. we need to be educating these children because they will become a drag on our society. >> well, he quickly recanted that, by the way. even so, the rick perry of 2011 never went as far as rick perry has gone these days on immigration or the obama administration. here is what he said last month about the current crisis. >> you either have an incredibly inept administration or they're in on this somehow or another. i hate to be conspiratorial. how do you move that many people from central america across mexico and then into the united states without their being a fairly coordinated effort?
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>> that's basically the classic i'm not saying anything. i'm just saying strategy. keeping them honest, though, the governor doesn't offer up any fact to back up his coordinated effort claim. earlier that day, though, he did, however, make this factual claim. >> we have record high numbers of other than mexicans being apprehended at the border. these are people coming from states like syria that have substantial connections back to terrorist regimes and operations. we're seeing historic high numbers of these individuals being apprehended. >> wow. so extraordinary claims that require extraordinary evidence, right? well, we called the governor's office. they couldn't even provide us ordinary evidence for that one. in fact that. >> didn't provide anything at all. the nonpartisan fact checkers of politic fact gave it the rating of pants on fire. the governor's office referred reporters to a spokesperson for the state department of public safety. he also could offer no
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specifics. while it's true the number of non-mexicans detained at the boarder have soared, those are tens of thousands of central americans. last year they detained two nigeri nigerians, three pakistanis, one egyptian, and no syrians. governor perry, though, he is not the only texas lawmaker making these kind of claims. >> talked to a retired fbi agent who said that one of the things they were looking at were terrorist cells overseas who had figured out how to game our system. and it appeared they would have young women who became pregnant would get them into the united states to have a baby. they wouldn't even have to pay anything for the baby. and then they would return back where they could be raised and coddled as future terrorists. and then one day 20, 30 years down the road that. >> could be sent in to help destroy our way of life, because they figured out how stupid we
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are being in this country. >> that's louie gohmert back in june of 2010 on the house floor, talking about terror babies. congressman gohmert had absolutely no facts to back that up because there are no facts to back it up. not then and not two months later, when he came on the program. >> you're going to keep me honest? you tell the world that you've got an fbi statement. you bring on a retired fbi former supervisor, and he says we were not aware of any credible report that this was going on? i brought it to the attention of america for this reason. it was -- i'm a former judge. i know it was here say coming from a day. >> scher brought to it my attention on an airplane, having flown together. and she brought that to my attention. that's why i was talking to the retired fbi agent about it. and so having talked to him, no, i didn't talk to them, because the point is when we did the
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research, we found the whole existed. >> what research? can you tell us about the research? >> you're attacking the messenger, anderson, you're better than this. you used to be good. you used to find there was a problem and you would go after it. >> i used to be good. by the way, he has never talked about this again, nor has anyone ever offered any evidence of this. and the fbi says it never happened. but he talked about it on the house floor. anyway, governor perry we should say is no louie gohmert. we should add there are many ways to criticize the president's handling of immigration and the immigration mess that do not involve terror babies or syrian sleepers or presidential plots to unleash a human flood that so far only seems to be damaging this administration. now joining us jorge ramos, also back with us chief congressional superintendent dana bash and let's bring in senior political correspondent gergen.
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>> is that what is driving much of this? >> i talked to a lot of people close to governor perry. they insist it's not what is driving him, this whole focus. because it is a very real crisis in his state. and he is the sitting governor. however, it is a happy political event. that sounds horrible to say and crass. but let's just -- this is the reality. it may be beneficial is a better way to say it. because remember, and you played it, in 2012, the last time he ran, he really hurt himself with the republican base when he said that those who don't support in-state tuition for the children of illegal immigrants don't have a heart that was absolutely the thing those close to me that hurt him the most with republican base voters. so this gives him an opportunity to get right with the republican base and to hit their chief opponent, president obama. >> jorge, how do you think this is being seen by hispanic voters, this crisis in particular? >> i really can't believe that
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we're basing our immigration policy on mass deportations. i thought that was resolved when mitt romney suggested deportation and lost the election. now i'm hearing from president obama and governor perry and some republicans agreeing on mass deportations. when we're talking about these children, i think we have to talk about a humanitarian crisis. and we have to treat these children as children. we have to treat them as if they are our own children. finally, i think president barack obama said that most likely these children will be deported. well, the facts are different. if you talk about the 24,000 children that came to this country last year, the majority of them are staying here for a very simple reason. one or two of their parents are still here. >> jorge, though, there are plenty of viewers who are going to be hearing that and say look, won't that encourage even more, another wave of kids to come? more and more children to keep coming? >> yeah, it's true, absolutely.
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but the fact is that they've been talking about what is pushing them away from el salvador, guatemala and honduras. and we know, and we've known for decades, it's nothing new, that it has to do with poverty, it has to do with unemployment, it has to do with gangs that hasn't changed, anderson. that hasn't changed in decades. what is new is there is a new law in 2008. and what is new is the perception that if you come here and that if children can cross the border, that they won't be deported. >> david, certainly the president of the united states agreeing with what jorge is saying. he is tossing this to congress saying pass the supplemental, that way change will happen. >> he is. and the president very carefully, very low-key statement today in which he treated this never mentioned the word emergency or crisis, is trying to take the heat out of the story i think in some ways. he clearly does not want to have mass deportation and wants to put the blame on congress.
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and i agree with jorge. listen, the children are central to what we now do. but the fact is the reason we have this massive number of children arriving and we've got a humanitarian crisis is because they do think it's a permissive policy. and to invite more parents to send their children 13, 12, 10-year-old kids unaccompanied on a 2,000 mile journey, a harrowing 2,000 mile journey, 45 days in which they can get raped, molested, they may die, it seems to me is not in the best interests of the children. what we ought to be doing is treat the ones who have gotten here with as much care and compassion as we can. maybe we need to find homes for them in some places. but we've got to work with people on the ground back in these three countries which are the three most violent countries in the world. so that they can live peacefully in their own countries. >> david, the fact that the president -- go ahead, jorge. >> yeah, i'm sorry, anderson.
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i completely agree with you, david. but the fact is it is very risky, of course, for them to come here. but they know. it's a dry feet, wet feet policy we have now with central american children. they know that. and if you are in central america, if your family is make $5,000 a year, or if a gang member is threatening you to kill you or your family if you don't give them a thousand dollars, if you don't join the gangs, and then you have the reward of coming to the united states, you're going to be coming. again, it's a tragedy. but the fact is that this is happening simply because in washington, no one is doing absolutely nothing about immigration reform. these are the consequences. we have to pay for those consequences. and that's what we're seeing right now at the border. >> but one thing is, i will add to, that jorge, you talked about the 2008 law. that is being hotly, hotly debated right now on capitol hill. and there is really no clear end in sight to that.
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because you have some people, mostly democrats, who don't want to change that law for the reasons that jorge, you just gave. that they believe that the central american countries are so horrible that the children especially who make it here should get the right to a hearing and shouldn't automatically be sent back, like the children from mexico and canada, which obviously matters less. and then you have mostly republicans who are saying they're not going to support any kind of funding to fix this problem if they don't have policy changes. and number one in those policy changes is to change that 2008 law, to put that revolving door back there so that the children who are coming from central american countries are sent back immediately. so they don't have the incentive to cross the border the way they do now. >> was it a mistake for the president not to visit the boarder? >> i think it was a mistake. i think it signalled to the central american countries both about compassion, but about the fact that the united states really discourages people from coming. i think it would have been a
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wonderful platform for him to broadcast to the world, just as, you know, we had a kennedy who went to the wall in berlin and reagan went to the wall. i think the responsibility of a president is to take the moral high ground and do it from a really important platform. and that's at the border. >> we have to leave there it. jorge ramos, david gergen, dana bash, thank you so much. a quick reminder, set your dvr so you can watch "ac 360" whenever you want. coming up, a rare look at a spot on mexico's board were guatemala where coming north can be as simple as taking a zip-line or a rope ferry across a river. you're looking at live picture there's. also ahead, rockets fired by hamas reaching deep into israel as air strikes pound the gaza strip. new signs tonight that an israeli ground offensive could come soon. we're there on the ground when we continue. ♪ your eyes. even at a distance of 10 miles... the length of 146 football fields.
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welcome back. we talked about at the top of the broadcast how politically contentious anything involving immigration has become, more so than even the 2012 presidential campaign. well talked about the politics of it and the scare tactics, the hyperbole. but also the failures in dealing with it. at the end of the day, this is a profoundly human story that begins for many in some of central america's poorest and most violent country, then moves north in crossing points along mexico's southern border to border towns in this country. we are in both places tonight, starting with gary tuchman who is live on the mexico-guatemala border. gary? >> reporter: anderson, when people cross from mexico into the united states, they have to do it clandestinely. it's potentially dangerous and expensive. they hire coyotes. they cost hundreds of thousands of dollars. but right now i'm in guatemala. this is a river that separates guatemala from mexico across the bay. and these are rafts that you see in the river. all you need here, it's not expensive. all you need here is a little more than a buck to get on the raft. it's easy, and it's open.
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this is the suchiate river which separates mexico from guatemala. we're in guatemala the western most part of the country. across the river, the southernmost part of the country. across the river, there are rafts of people who are trying to get across the border, and they're doing it very easily. this is very unlike the border going to the united states. we have to be secret about it. i want to give you a look here to give you an idea of how open this is. there are police here there are police all over here. and no one minds that people are going across the river from here in guatemala into mexico. you can see this family of three, a mother, a father, and their little boy. they told me a short time ago they're getting ready to go on this raft. the rafts are made with these huge inner tubes and they're getting ready to go across from guatemala into mexico. they're hoping also to get into the united states. this river is active from sunrise to sunset. and in addition to all the police being here, not caring that people are crossing from guatemala to mexico, what is really amazing is about a mile
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in this direction is the official border station. the official border station is right down there. even though the border patrol people for guatemala and mexico work over there, they don't seem to care either. this is a very active business. and the going rate right now for crossing is the equivalent of $1.30. and this is the family we just met, the little child and his parents. the man in the red shirt with the stick, he is the pilot of his raft. he is the guy that just got the $1.30. typically what happens is they will go to the other side. they'll go into mexico there are taxis vans and bicycle taxis which will take them to a nearby city called tapachula where they stay in shelters and then try to figure out where to go from there. it is a long way from tapachula mexico to the united states. it could take them weeks to get there if they get there successfully. and that's on open question. the police are not only friendly here, they're actually encouraging us to go for a ride on one of the rafts.
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go into mexico. and so we are. this is the skipper. your name, sir? pauco. you like taking people into mexico? >> yes. >> he takes them to mexico. and then if they succeed, they end up in the united states. but if you do this in the rio grande in texas, you're going to be in a lot of trouble you. can't do it in front of cops. but here with paluco, you can do it in front of everybody. paluco has now taken us into mexico. like most of the people on this river, we're going to head back into guatemala and spend the next couple of hours watching people continue to cross this riverheading north. >> i mean, it's amazing how easy it is. are people on the rafts you talked to, are they worried about what is ahead of them? you've seen kids riding on the tops of trains. it's incredibly dangerous. a lot can happen to these kids along the way. >> we've been here for a couple of hours, anderson.
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this young lady right here, she is about to head to mexico. she wants to eventually meet her family in the united states. shae little shy right now. people we've been talking to aren't scared. they're a bit apprehensive. they're anxious. they're nervous, they're excited. but everyone we talked to knows someone who has successfully made to it the united states and says they have a better life there. that's why they want to do it too. one more thing, anderson, just to make it clear. the coyotes that take you from mexico to the united states charge hundreds of dollar, sometimes thousands of dollars. but here that doesn't happen. you can cross for free in some spots. you can walk across some of the water it's so shallow. right here is literally a $1.30. that's all it takes to get into mexico and start your journey to the united states. >> gary, appreciate that. thank you so much. from that border, migrants make their way north through mexico into texas. many families are caught. some turn themselves in. after processing in the overburdened system, hand them off to others with a few pieces of paper, include one requiring that they go before a court that will almost certainly send them back home. rosa flores picks up the story
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in mcallen, texas. >> reporter: after traveling hundreds of miles, these central american families find a glimmer of help at a temporary shelter at sacred heart catholic church in mcallen, texas. most are fleeing violence and poverty in their home countries, arriving exhausted, with nothing but the clothing on their backs, laceless shoes, and a manila folder handed to them by immigration officials with documents in english. they say they don't understand. she says she traveled with her 2-year-old son stanley by foot and by bus from her home country of honduras nearly 1500 miles until she made it america. then turned herself into immigration authorities. few meals along the way, the fear and trauma still clear on this family's face. she didn't leave anyone behind,
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but hopes to reunite with her husband in north carolina. not the case for this man. he left a wife and two children in guatemala. making the dangerous journey with his 9-year-old son vidal, who was anxious to change his dirty clothing and sit down to eat a meal. [ speaking spanish ] >> reporter: sergio said he crossed the border and turned himself into immigration, spent three days with his son in a detention center, was assigned a court date to face an immigration judge and was set free at a bus station. that's how thousands of people end up in temporary shelters like this one. this facility sees between 150 and 180 people a day. take a look around. it's a quick stop. they get some fresh clothing, a blanket for the road, some shoes, and also some snacks for their bus ride. and if there is time, they get a quick shower.
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sister norma pimentel established this temporary shelter a month ago and has already serve in order than 3,000 people. >> they may be stripped of everything, but one thing they do have is their faith. so i think this is a beautiful encounter of faith alive, you know, amongst our people. >> reporter: it's the common story here. she says she wants to protect her son from the constant sound of gunshots in her neighborhood and the dead bodies on the streets. for sergio, he says he is escaping the extreme poverty in guatemala where he had trouble putting food on the table working in agriculture. as he and his son boarded a bus to reunite with family in california, it was left up to them to honor the immigration court date, in that paperwork in the manila folder. sergio wouldn't say if they planned to show up for the court hearing. >> rosa flores joins us now. so it is confusing about what
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happens to these immigrants after they're apprehended. after they're processed, they're allowed to go free, as we saw with that family, until they're actually scheduled to go to this court hearing, right? >> you're absolutely right. and that's the crazy part when you really think about it. so here is how this goes down. so a person gets detained here in the rio grande river that you see behind me, and they do get processed by immigration. after that, after the fingerprinting and the such, then immigration decides they can either wait for their court hearing while they are detained or they are set free. everyone, anderson, that we met today was set free. they left on a bus, and they're reuniting with their families. >> and the unaccompanied kids, they're processed differently? >> they are. other federal agencies are involved. so, yes, they get detained on the rio grande river like you see here. but then health and human services gets involved. so they get a child wellness
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exam. they get help because their case is looked at on a case-by-case basis, and one of the key things is one of the goals is to reunite them with their families while they go through the immigration process. and we understand that about 85% of these unaccompanied children are reunited with their families while they wait for the immigration process to go through. and i can tell you, from sources that i have been talking to, they tell us that it will take about a year and a half for these children to get processed because it just takes that long to go through the immigration court process in the u.s. anderson? >> rosa flores, i appreciate the update. up next, former new orleans mayor ray nagin, remember him? there he is. he is going to prison for ten years for corruption. see why prosecutor says the punishment does not fit the crime. drew griffin is on the case. also, israel and hamas each pounding targets, and a new warning from a leading israeli that this could escalate even more very soon.
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comcast business. built for business. more threats that israel is on the verge of an all-out ground offensive on the gaza strip. israel pounded gaza with more air strikes today, killing at least 19 people. at least -- excuse me, at least 61 palestinians, including women and children have been killed since air strikes began on monday. more than 550 have been wounded. that according to palestinian officials and medical sources. at the same time, militants in gaza are firing wave after wave of rockets deep inside israel. 72 missiles hit israel today, according to the military. some were fired at the city of demono where israel has a nuclear reactor. it wasn't hit or damaged. israel has troops in place at the border of gaza. the military has been authorized to call up 40,000 troops if
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needed. in a tweet today israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu said the operation will be expand and will continue until the firing at our community stops and quiet is restored. president shimon peres told cnn in an exclusive interview that a ground offensive may happen, quote, quite soon. ben wedeman joins me from gaza city. so israel is stepping up defense in gaza today. what is the latest there tonight? >> well, its quiet at the moment, anderson. it's about 3:30 in the morning. but about 15 minutes ago, we heard what sounded like naval bombardment on to targets within gaza city. the evening was fairly bloody for other parts of the gaza strip to the south of here. a family home was hit, seven people killed, children among them. at another place in the same town, hanunis, an outdoor cafe where people were apparently watching the world cup being played that got hit as well.
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information that five people were killed there. so we have seen fairly steady strikes on gaza today, anderson. what we're not seeing, however, is people on the street. unlike yesterday, it appears most people want to stay inside, stay out of harm's way. anderson? >> and ben, israeli troops have mobilized along the border, right? >> to a certain extent. now, as you mentioned, the cabinet has authorized the call-up of as many as 40,000 troops. but that number doesn't appear to have actually been mobilized and deployed along the gaza border. so preparations are being made. the language, as we heard from prime minister netanyahu and president shimon peres points in the direction of an escalation, however. >> and you can hear the call to prayers in the background. how much support does hamas have in gaza now?
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>> not an awful lot. a lot of people simply see this current flare-up as a disruption. life is already difficult enough when the rockets start to fly and israel strikes back, it makes life harder for many. however, it's worth pointing out that as the death toll rises, and our numbers point to more than 70 dead at this point since the beginning of this offensive, people, the anger starts to sort of take the edge off of the resentment against hamas. and people start to talk about the need for revenge. so hamas still isn't very popular in gaza, but the anger against israel is rising here. anderson? >> thanks very much. be careful there is a lot more we're following tonight. susan hendricks has breaking news out of tennessee. >> yeah, anderson, a manhunt is now under way for a suspect wanted for a shooting at a national guard armory in western tennessee. it's near the town of linden.
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investigators are now saying that one person was seriously injured. we're following that story. also, a military source says sergeant bowe bergdahl is just about done with his final phase of reintegration and is expected soon to be assigned to a new army unit. bergdahl, as you know, was held captive by the taliban for fife years before a controversial deal to set him free in may. and talk about a wedding crasher. imagine this on your wedding day. see it in the background? but as you can see, this canadian couple did stay calm as that tornado threatened their big day. their photographer was excited. she said she dreamed of a day like this and says they were never in any danger. >> the photos, though, that doesn't look real. but that's incredible. >> it doesn't. the photographer loved it. >> pretty amazing, susan. thanks very much. up next, former new orleans mayor ray nagin. after katrina, americans took him and his city to heart. now authorities are taking him to prison. the sentence and the incredible story behind it, coming up. plus, online postings believed to be by justin harris are raising questions in the wake of his toddler's death in a
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hot car. also details about the reenactment authorities staged in the parking lot where cooper harris died. ben! well, that was close! you ain't lying! let quicken loans help you save your money. with a mortgage that's engineered to amaze! ♪he cadillac summer collection is here. ♪ during the cadillac summer's best event, lease this 2014 ats for around $299 a month and make this the summer of style. ♪
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the fastest office plant. so why wouldn't i choose the fastest wifi? i would. switch to comcast business internet and get the fastest wifi included. comcast business. built for business. excuse me, senator, i'm sorry for interrupting. i haven't heard that, because for the last four days, i've been seeing dead bodies in the streets here in mississippi. and to listen to politicians thanking each other and complimenting each other, you know, i got to tell you, there are a lot of people here who are very upset and very angry and very frustrated. and when they hear politicians, you know, thanking one another, it just, you know, it kind of cuts them the wrong way right now because literally there was a body on the streets of this
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town yesterday being eaten by rats because this woman had been laying in the street for 48 hours. and there is not enough facilities to take her up. >> the sickening reality in new orleans after hurricane katrina. ray nagin was the mayor of new orleans back then. it turns out he was cashing in as mayor during his two terms in office. nagin accepted hundreds of thousands of dollars in bribes in kickback, some from those who wanted hurricane recovery work. he got cash, help for his family business, and even free trips. today he learned his punishment. his next trip will be to federal prison for ten years. drew griffin reports. >> reporter: what the state was doing, i don't fricking know. but i'm telling you, i am pissed. it wasn't adequate. >> reporter: as a politician, ray nagin always attracted attention as here in the wake of hurricane katrina. but now he is facing a very different kind of attention. a new orleans mayor elected as a reformer, vowing to sweep corruption from the city, left a federal courthouse today a
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convicted felon, sentenced to ten years in prison. prosecutors in this federal corruption probe say nagin accepted hundreds of thousands of dollars in bribes, kickbacks, and even free granted for his family business. a mayor on the take almost from when he took office. >> what ray nagin did was sell his office over and over and over again. >> he did not. we rebuke that. >> the damage that ray nagin inflicted on this community, to include you, ma'am, to include you, is incalculable. >> reporter: even for a city accustomed to public corruption, it is a remarkable fall from grace, and ends an era most in new orleans would like to forget. elected in 2002, his terms in office would be defined by three years later when hurricane katrina barreled down on a city that sits below sea level. a lack of hurricane
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preparations, inadequate evacuations, and a police force in shambles left the city and its mayor literally pleading for help. nagin angrily speaking out on new orleans radio, blasting then president george bush for the federal government's lack of response. >> don't tell me 40,000 people are coming here. they're not here. it's too doggone late. get off your asses and let's do something, and let's fix the biggest doggone crisis in the city of this country. >> reporter: as the city recovered, nagin kept talking, suggesting god was using hurricanes to punish america for invading iraq. and then said this about possible attempts to remove new orleans' mostly black population from its rebuilt future. >> this city will be chocolate at the end of the day. this city will be a majority
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african american city. >> reporter: it was racially divisive, but not enough to stop nagin from being reelected. and according to prosecutors, the rebuilding of new orleans after hurricane katrina would only make the new orleans mayor more powerful in asking for kickbacks and bribes. he continues to profess his innocence, but on september 8, nagin reports to a louisiana federal prison to begin serving a ten-year sentence. >> drew griffin joins me now from atlanta. nagin faces ten years. but really, in a lot of ways, that's getting off easy. >> it, anderson. prosecutors wanted 15. he could have gotten as much as 20. but listen to this. only in new orleans. the judge decides on the lesser sentence because mayor nagin got the short end of the stick in all this corruption. his share of the profits from this ring was a lot less, the judge argues than the people doing the bribing. so she gave him a lighter sentence. nagin is appealing his conviction.
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but prosecutors may also appeal that light sentence, anderson. >> wow, amazing. drew griffin, thank you very much. ahead, internet posts about fatherhood and babies believed to be by justin harris seem they could have been written by two different people and raised the question, how did you really feel about being a father? details ahead. ♪ great rates for great rides. geico motorcycle, see how much you could save.
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ahead as justin harris, cooper's father sits in jail without bond. harris is charged with murder and child cruelty after leaving his son in a hot car for seven hours. he says it was a terrible accident. martin savidge has more on the reenactment plus new details about justin harris that have surfaced online. >> reporter: internet posts that seem to be by justin harris seem to depict two different people. for instance, last year on what appears fob his read it account harris talks about his new job and new baby in glowing terms. i'm now in my dream job, have a beautiful 6-month-old son and love going to work every day. i couldn't be happier. contrast that with this tweet, allegedly from ross harris to a friend seventh months later. new invention, snooze button on babies. of course, the muses of a sleep deprived parent are nothing unusual. but given the horrific act he is accused of, murdering his son, some are now interpreting the
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message with alarming new meaning. meanwhile, in a suburban atlanta parking lot, it was disturbing deja vu. in this footage recorded by waga, investigators scientifically reenact the conditions that led to 22-month-old cooper harris' death using the same silver suv, the same child seat in which the toddler died parked in the same space outside justin harris's office. detectives could be seen wiring up instruments inside the vehicle and taking readings outside, seemingly coinciding with key moments in the case. the dad maintains he forgot to drop his son off at day care that day, june 18th, instead leaving him strapped in his car seat for about seven hours before discovering his lifeless body after leaving work. cnn meteorologist chad myers says weather-wise, the day cooper died match almost exactly to the test day. >> that was an identical day. cloud cover, big puffy cumulus
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clouds coming and going. yesterday and june 18th were about as close as you can get. >> and using their own measurements of temperatures recorded around the area that day, cnn's experts say the interior of the car where cooper sat trapped could have reached close to 140 degrees. >> that's hard to imagine. martin joins us now from marietta, georgia. you have learned about another alleged social media posting from the dad that could be crucial if the case goes to trial. >> yeah. it has to do with his hearing. this is something that was brought up in the courtroom last week. it seemed to be a surprise to investigators when the defense attorney asked him did you know that justin ross harris is deaf in one ear. well, it turns out according to this website, this posting that was put up to read it allegedly by harris says he apparently lost his hearing in the right ear as a result of a fireworks going off. it actually required surgeries to repair, and he is still deaf in that right ear that right ear would have been closest to his child that was the car seat.
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