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this situation is about to get a whole lot worse. that's it for me. i'm wolf blitzer in jerusalem. erin burnett "outfront" starts erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com crisis in the middle east, the israeli government not backing down. hamas issuing a new threat tonight. this time aimed at israel's main airport. plus a so-called call girl killer the woman charge charged with a google executive's death is linked to another death. lebron james returns home. his announcement sends shock waves around the country. let's go "outfront." and good evening, everyone i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight the crisis on the border. president obama sending a
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surrogate his homeland security secretary to the u.s.-mexico border to see the situation. this is a stop that a lot of people on both sides of the political aisle are saying that this is a stop that the president should be making. the president says he is not interested in what he called photo ops. the republicans tweeting this picture of a photo meeting with a student in texas. the caption says, hey, girl, i'm not interested in photo ops. we will discuss the political fallout shortly. first, though, we are joined from new mexico where jay yonsen toured a temporary detention facility where 400 women and children are. the president was not there. >> the president wants to send a message to the immigrants and
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the countries from which they are come for you come here you will be detained and you this be deported. that is the administration's focus right now, expedited repatriation. and it's a temporary housing facilities that are allowing them to hammer home that message. once the undocumented immigrants are here, they are held here the entire time as their legal case plays out. they're not getting a court date and sent on their way. they are held here until their fates are decided. since this facility opened on june 27th they have established a group of immigrants who will be deported next week. listen to what the secretary had to say. >> the message has to be that our border is not open to legal migration and we are sending people back. and this is an example of that effort. >> so again, they have a group that is going to be deported
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next week they are trying to turn these case quickly. we know the people who are staying here are video conferences with judges in order to play out those cases and the goal ultimately is to have their legal cases completed within two to four days of arrival. they say that is realistic now they have this more efficient system for processing and housing these undocumented immigrants. >> the 400 women and children behind you, what are they doing? do they have rooms in there are they in one central space? >> it's a far cry from the ones in texas at the border. this is more like a college campus feel, erin. we looked at their accommodations. they are staying in what looks like dorm rooms. they have bunk beds and televisions and shared bathrooms but they are separated by gender and private. shower areas with a lot of toys for the children to play with. everybody is allowed to roam
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free on this campus be. i but they are closely monitored and they can't leave. there is schooling for the children who are here temporarily. what we were told by one i.c.e. official is we want to treat them with dignity and humanely because we are america and that's how we treat people in america. >> when you think about the 400 women and children and how they are being treat so well, how many immigrants are coming across the border and what is the reality of the security there? i want to go to tom foreman in the virtual studio. this issue is becoming ex exponentially bigger of a problem. how many people? >> how many people? that's a big question. let's talk about the geography of the area. 1900 miles is the length of the border here and it's far from
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impen attributable. the fence covers a third of it in the western half near the urban areas and towns. and that's where you find 40 legal entry points. but in terms of illegal entries, now near nogales, there's a lot of crossing over in that area. arizona and new mexico, where we saw anna just moments ago. and down at the point of texas right down there, there are a lot of crossing over there. >> so how many people are trying this every year? >> yeah, that is exactly we get back to the question. how many people? nobody actually knows how many. look at this chart from the department of homeland security as they looked at these numbers. you can see it has been falling off in terms of the number of people who have been apprehended or turned back near the border. there are a many reasons for
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that. but in 2011, 750,000 people turned away. but that's just the people they know about. the actual number is much bigger. the latest estimate is 11 million people living in this country illegally, erin, mostly from central america. >> obviously that's a big area. where are they coming from? and they are trying to treat these immigrants well. but have a so-called expedited repatriation process. what is expedited? how long does it take for one of these people who comes in to be sent home. >> let's talk about that in a second. let me answer your first question, where are they from? about 59% are from mexico. when crow move further down to el salvador, the percentages are lower, 6%. if you go down to guatemala, it's 5% and honduras, 3%.
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these areas are driving this latest rush as people are convinced if they can just get here or get their kids here, they can stay. and if you talk about this processing system to get them out, to a degree they're right because it has been clogged up. the average amount of time for processing someone has gone to around 500 days or more. that's a long time to be here. the idea of expediting it and get people out much, much quicker, is clearly, erin, about sending a message with them. if they can get more of those people to go home to those places and say it doesn't work, that might take some of the pressure off the border. >> tom, thank you very much. and this is obviously putting a lot of scrutiny on the president and how he has handled this crisis. joining me "outfront" maria car doe that and matt lue lewis.
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maria, let me start with what tom just said there. 500 days. that is appalling. >> i agree. and i think the focus needs to be to try to get that to be a lot faster. and erin, the money that president obama has asked for this congress is exactly to do just that. so that the processing, especially of these young children and of these women can be a lot quicker. but at the same time, make sure that they do have their due process. because as you know, a lot of these kids are coming from places that they could -- their lives could be in danger if they go back. this is incredibly heart-breaking situation. as an immigrant myself and as someone who worked in i.n.s., this really hits home. it is appalling to me when the president is trying to focus on solutions and republicans are balk at what he's asked for, number one, and number two, for more than a year and a half, have refused to do anything to
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pass real comprehensive immigration reform, which could have mitigated a lot of this in the first place. >> i want to ask you about that matt. but i want to get your reaction to what anna was reporting. we saw the pictures of the dorm rooms. the facilities she is at tonight, dorm rooms, toys, schooling for the kids, a cleej yal experience and these people could be here for a very long time. when you see that is that something that you are glad of and proud of or do you think that conditions as good, quote unquote as those encourage more people to come? >> i'm proud of it. i wish we had conditions that good in texas. i substantive agree with jim johnson on this. i think we have to humane in how we treat these young folks. imagine how bad it must be in
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their country for their parents to send them with coyotes across mexico in hopes for a better life but it's we have to honor the rule of law. and i have to agree that when they're sent back hope friday it will send a message that it's not worth taking the chance. >> you sound like you are defending the president, a president who has said clearly, you could get killed coming here and when you do we're going to send you home. he has been humane but not soft on this issue. he has set records in terms of the number of people he has deported. >> i think that the situation, the mess is a bipartisan problem but i think president obama bears a lot of blame as well. some of which is, i mean just in terms of leadership and symbolism i believe he should have gone to the border in texas. that's not show biz or a photo
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op, that is called leadership. george bush should have gone to katrina immediately as far as i'm concerned. and i think that president obama should send the national guard to the border immediately and that's something he has the power to do. but substantively speak we need to be humane and compassion nat but we have to send the imagine it's not worth taking the chance. >> why not go to the border. presidents do things for photo ops all the time. the president has done thing for the visual power at. why fight doing it now? >> i do think he should go and hope that he will. but he didn't necessarily have to go last week when the focus was on governor perry saying he should go and the focus would have been political and it takes a lot of resources when the
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president travels and at that moment and we're in that moment right now every resource at the border needs to be focused on taking care of these children. i'm glad i'm hearing matt saying what he is saying. i hope he talks to his republican colleagues to say instead of sending out stupid tweets and making stupid lawsuits on this president, show some leadership and work with the president to get this solved. i think the american people deserve that. >> we're going to leave it there. thanks to both of you. interesting argument for why the president maybe shouldn't have gone to the border. the first i've heard that, pretty convincing. up next, breaking news, american airlines afraid that commercial planes should could be caught in the cross fire in israel. wolf blitzer is going to talk about how dangerous that situation is. and police are believing
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breaking news, u.s. airlines say they are now monitoring the situation in israel. hamas militants warning airlines not to fly into the country's main airport in tel aviv, threatening air strikes from gaza. israel says that hamas has fired 570 rockets this week. and this comes -- this is the aftermath of a strike in rafa.
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palestinian officials say more than 150 palestinians have lost their lives. israel says this is a strike on a weapons storage facility that the palestinians had that they say was concealed inside a school for girls in gaza. this is something that israel accuses hamas all the time of putting targets amidst women and children. wolf blitzer is in jerusalem tonight. i want to start off with the threats on the airport. you have been in the country a couple of days and talking to people. what are people saying and what are you hearing about the threats on u.s. airlines flying into the country. >> it's not just u.s. airliners but airliners from around the world. when we were flying in we were told that there were new procedures that the pilots were taking to come in a different route. israeli officials say that the
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commercial airplanes that are coming in are safe right now but it's they are trying to make sure that the threats don't materialize. i saw first hand what is going on when i went down to the gaza border. at many moment here in israel, a rocket attack siren could go off. you can hear the sirens have just gone off. we are being told to goat a shelter. we had to drop everything to get to safety and an anxious wait for the all clear before coming out to see if anyone was hurt or killed. earlier, a rocket slammed into this gas station. and a huge fire broke out, still smoldering when we arrived. >> there was a rocket that directly hit behind me. >> did it hit the truck? >> no. where you see now the tractor. >> yeah. >> and of course because of the fire, started from the truck and 11 cars were burnt.
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>> how much warning is there? >> maximum one minute. maximum. usually it's less. >> sirens went off in tel aviv as well. and now, hamas militants are vowing they plan to target ben gur ion international airport. bej men netanyahu vowed that air strikes will continue until quiet is restored. the strikes are responsible to 100 deaths according to palestinian authorities. this video posted online is showing the three story house of a family where five people were reported killed in their sleep. others injuried were rushed into ambulances. the emergency rooms are overwhelmed and patients are being treated on the floor. in a video statement overnight the military wing of hamas blamed israel for starting the
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clash and claimed they used only a small portion of their arsenal and could fight for weeks. adding to the dangers? a threat from a new direction. overnight a rocket was fired from lebanon into israel, raising the specker of a two-front war. >> i suspect this isn't a second front. if it were to be it would essentially fulfill one of israel's worst nightmares and that is hamas and hezbollah able to reach the entire country with their weapons. >> there are efforts to achieve a ceasefire. qatar is deeply involved. but a lot of folks in israel and the palestinians are not hopeful that a ceasefire is going to emerge any time soon. i suspect that this situation is about to get a whole lot worse. >> wolf blitzer, thank you very much. as you hear wolf saying it could
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get worse or about to get worse. ben wiedemann is in gaza city tonight. what is the story where you are? >> it's getting a lot worse. it's already worse here in gaza where we have a death toll at this point of about 113 according to our sources. keeping in mind of course that the palestinians don't have an iron dome system to stop the rockets from coming in, for civilians there are no air raid i whens. there's no bunkers. there's no bomb shelter, there's nowhere to hide. and we saw what happens with that in a neighborhood north of here where a three-story home was hit by a missile. we don't know why it was targeted by a missile. but the result was some of the shrapnel from the missiler to off half the head of a
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four-year-old boy. that -- and we saw some video when his father was taken to the hospital, absolutely devastated as his dead son lay on the bed. afterwards when we were there we saw some of the children clearly traumatized by what they had seen. one man came rushing by us with his three children in tow. i said where are you going? he said i'm getting out of here. i don't want my children to die in a rocket attack as well. some people in that part of the gaza strip, which is just north of here and we're hearing study thumps as naval bombardment is happening in that area. they have been warned by the israelis through phone calls to leave the entire area. you're talking about 100,000 people told to get up and go. we were there this afternoon and of course they say even if we wanted to go, we have nowhere to
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go. you cannot get out of gaza. the egyptian border is closed for all but the victims of the recent fighting. so there's no escape from gaza. erin? >> thank you. still to come, new revelations about the call girl killer. why police believe she could be linked to the death of a nightclub owner. and a look ahead to the next world cup. i'll visit the 2012 host city, doha, qatar. we'll be back. jake and i have been best friends for years. one of our favorite things to do is going to the dog park together. sometimes my copd makes it hard to breathe. so my doctor prescribed symbicort. it helps significantly improve my lung function starting within five minutes. symbicort doesn't replace a rescue inhaler for sudden symptoms. with symbicort, today i'm breathing better. come on, boy! [ female announcer ] symbicort is for copd,
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the world will be watching brazil this weekend. the world cup comes to an end. and some people are looking towards the 2022 world cup when it will be held in the qatar capital of doha. i was there a few weeks ago and we visited one of the city's biggest achievements. mooukds. >> it's one of the newest cities on earth. 15 years ago almost none of these buildings were here. across the bay is a brand new monument to the past. >> you is this skyline here which is modern doha. and right over there you have the past. >> exactly, the past. >> so we're right at the center between the past and the future and we try to build those connections. >> she is building the connections at the museum of islamist art. it is built by i.m.pei.
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surprising new twist tonight in the case of a hay-end prostitute who has been linked to two deaths. prosecutors are saying that she left a digital trail that shows she is a callous and calculated killer. living a california faufr of five to die on his yacht and his former boyfriend also turned up dead from an overdose. >> tell me what i have done. >> my boyfriend overdued or
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something like he won't respond and he is just laying on the ground. and i don't know. >> allen, you thought your friend dean died of a heart attack, right? >> that's exactly how i thought he died. >> you heard he died from a heroin overdose what was your reaction? >> i was completely shocked at for and then it was absolutely no way until a million years would he ever dream of going down that road and using such a drug. just no way. dean would never, ever do that. >> and why are you so sure about that? >> well, back when me and dean used to play music together, i used to smoke weed and i used to party a little bit and he was always saying, dude, that's not
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the way to go. you need to do right, be health conscious. it's not the way to go, and he always preached that to me. and when i heard he died of a heroin overdose i was immediately, no freakin' way did he die of a heroin overdose. >> you don't believe that. and you met alex at one point with him. what did you think of her? what was your impression? >> when i first saw her. i thought she was a pretty girl. we hung out a while. i brought him up a monkey to tampa. she seemed immature and all about herself and really shallow, to be honest with you. >> and so you said delivering a monkey. an animal, right? >> yeah, dean used to raise monkeys and he offered me money
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to come up to tampa to drive a monkey up there for him and i did. that's when i met alex. i met dean and we had a really nice chat and we decided that we were going to go out to dinner. but when i came back in the room with dean after taking care of some business for him to take care of me for bringing the monkey up to him, my girlfriend felt a little weird and she felt uncomfortable and didn't want to have dinner with him. so we decided to drive back to miami. and something never sat right about her with me or my girlfriend especially after what i heard happened in san jose. i couldn't believe my ears. >> and so bottom line, alan, do you think your friend's death was criminal? >> put two and two together and you get four. i think absolutely she definitely had something to do with it. like i said, dean would never go
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down that road. ever in a million years. >> alan, thank you for joining us tonight. now you have heard what alan vine had to say about his friend who was dating alex. i want to bring in the deputy of the santa cruz police didn't. you heard alan vine say his friend would never do heroin. he said i had been living with that life and my friend said don't do that that he was not into that at all. does this sound similar to what you learned about the death of the google executive? >> you can see parallels between the two stories here. you have individuals who are likely inexperienced at using this kind of a drug. and they're brought into it because of their relationship with the woman. and so, definitely parallels as i'm listening to his story and the background on his friend dean and those are the things
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that have caused the police department to take a second look at this. we're excited to be working with them and sharing information on our cases. we both have an interest in moving forward and gathering as much information like this to paint an entire picture. as you hear the comments you can see the pieces of the puzzle falling into place here and showing us a picture. >> you have her computers and looking at her online history. have you found anything? >> yeah, we have. you know, part of our investigation the search warrant that we served. we got computer information and looked at things like google searches and looked at information that she has posted on different websites and all of that, again, helps to paint a picture of who this person was and what her role was in terms of her relationships with these individuals and how it certainly is starting to sound an awful lot like she brought them into
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the world of drug use along with the prostitution. >> she said she had over 200 clients. have you been able to get ahold of any others? >> we have been working with that. there are motivations and reasons that people might not want to work with us on that. but we're not going to be on intent on embarrassing or exposing anyone. we want to give the information to the d.a. and let him go to town and take the matter into court. >> good to talk to you again. thank you, sir. for weeks, lebron james held two city hostage as we waved his next move. king james announced he is returning to cleveland, a city he left in the cold when he signed with the heat four years ago. miami is already defacing the nba great. talk about class and
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sportsmanship guys. >> even if you don't know what you're going to do, what have you learned from the last time you switched teams that will inform how you handle things this time? >> you learn from your mistakes. and i'll be able to handle it much better. >> that was lebron james before the free agency circus that has consumed the nba these past weeks. at the time he promised me this decision wouldn't be anything like the decision in 2010. back then there was the television special that was the scorn of the nation and broke hearts all over cleveland. >> this is terrible. this is the worst thing that could ever happen to cleveland. >> i hope he never wins anything in mime. >> but four years and two nba titles later, a more mature lebron stuck to the approach he
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promised. instead of the tv extravaganza, a 952 word essay published in "sports illustrated" and remember the predictions of titles when he came to miami? >> not two, not three, not four, not five, not six, not seven. >> this time, lebron was much more modest, writing, quote, i'm not promising a championship. we're not ready, no way. he also spoke from the heart. comparing his stint in miami to going to college these past four years helped raise me to who i am. it's a concept he had spoken to me about earlier. how he was 25 years old when he joined the heat it was his first time away from home. >> even though i played for cleveland for seven years i was in akron. i was in akron for 25 straight years i didn't know how difficult it was to learn a new
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streets, culture, be around different things i hadn't been arged. that was challenging for me. >> now he says, that growing up process is what made him finally understand his attachment and his responsibilities to the place he grew up. cleveland fans haven't celebrated a championship in any major spot in 50 years and his loyalty to them earned praise from many corners. even the white house. >> it's a powerful statement about the value of a place that you consider home. >> yes, this time around things are different. back in 2010, cavaliers owner dan gilbert posted a now infamous public letter to lebron on the team website calling his departure a cowardly betray yal and shocking act of disloyalty. and now, he writes my
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eight-year-old son says daddy does this mean i can wear my lebron jersey and yes, it does. it was one year since george zimmerman was found not guilty. and does america's justice system only act when white people are killed? >> when people of color are killed in this country, it's hardly a blip on the radar screen. ♪ abe! get in! punch it! let quicken loans help you save your money. with a mortgage that's engineered to amaze!
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zimmerman not guilty of murder of trayvon martin. it was a verdict that trickered pro tests across the country. many americans watched this glued to their television set for four weeks of testimony including a witness who captivated almost everyone. trayvon martin's friend, rachel gent el. >> rachel was on the phone with trayvon martin. a year ago we watched as she made no secret of her feelings during a combative cross-examination by the defense in zimmerman's murder trial. today i find her working hard to put the past behind her and deal with lingering regret. >> were you blaming yourself when george zimmerman went free? >> a little bit. >> do you think you should have
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said something different this or acted differently? >> act different. >> you think the jurors didn't take your seriously? >> yes. they judge how they talk, how they look, how they dress. >> and they were judging you? >> yes. >> and that was the beginning of an astonishing turn around in rachel jeantel's life. >> she was suffering from post-traumatic stress. >> ron organized a support group he calls the village providing rachel with councseling. no one knew at the time. but when 19-year-old rachel took the stand she was barely able to read and write beyond the level of a third grader. she often pushed back when tutors took four to six hours a day. >> during the trial i saw what happens when someone gets on your bad side.
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i don't know if i would ever want to be on your bad side. >> you don't want to cross the road. >> but her tutors didn't give up. these photos taken in may mark the moment their work paid off. rachel donned a cap and gown and collected her high school diploma. >> she credits what has taken place since, to trayvon martin all the good things. she kept her word to him. >> she is keeping a promise to herself by having the last word for people who criticized the way she talked and acted on the witness stand. >> they are implying that you're not very smart. >> yeah. you can't say. that you can't judge a book by a cover. >> she's had to do a lot of growing up and learning how to take responsibility for her actions. rachel jeantel means that george zimmerman should do the same. >> what would you say to george
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zimmerman right now? >> george zimmerman not a man. that still a little boy with a grown body. >> she still has a lot of work of her own ahead of her. more got in mind, but after her experience, there is one line of work she can definitely rule out. let's set the record straight, i'll ask you straight out. >> straight out. >> do you want to be an attorney? >> no. [ laughter ] >> she has a real sense of humor, you know, it's funny. i obviously remember her being interviewed at the time by piers and it was a great interview but you got a sense of her person in that interview of who she was. what is she going to do next? do you think? >> well, she has career plans. she'd like to go into fashion design in some respects in the future. she's also planning to go to
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college. she's got a lot of work left to do before she can do that, of course, but that is in her plan, radio host ton join tom joiner to pay for it if she does the work and goes to a predominantly black institution. there is quite a bit left for her to do and work on herself before she can quite get there. as for her opinion on george zimmerman, that will not change any time in the future. we reached out to zimmerman's attorney, civil attorneys and criminal attorneys for possible comment about her opinions of him, but there was no response. >> and i'm glad you brought up that tom joiner said he would pay for her to go to college and that that she's really trying to seize on that. that's special. what about george zimmerman. since the verdict he's been stopped several times for speeding tickets, gun charges, department of justice investigation, person problems, as well, which were pretty sorted, his wife filed for divorce.
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where is george zimmerman? >> he's had a great deal of difficulty staying out of the limelight with his legal problems, but according to his brother, he's still essentially homeless moving from friend to friend sleeping on their coach. he's unemployed. in the process of a divorce and over a million dollars in debt because of his legal fees. so his status really hasn't changed much in the last year. there is also that lingering investigation, federal investigation on civil rights charges. i checked with the federal government today. that investigation is still on going. >> david mattingly, thank you very much. now this question, does race determine if a murderer gets the death penalty? my interview with actress and activist susan is next. ♪ ♪ sweet, sweet, st. thomas nice ♪ ♪ so nice, so nice ♪ st. croix full of pure vibes ♪ so nice, so nice
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two decades ago susan sarandon was an anti death penalty advocate in a movie and i had the opportunity to speak with them both about their on going fight against the death penalty in america. you've none sister prego snrks for 20 years. >> a special relationship. >> why is she one out driving reasons why you are so passionate about the death penalty. >> if you say you're against the death penalty, you should understand the victim's side and what she went through is important before you understand both sides before you make a decision and the specifics of it, what this cnn series showed how broken the system is. wherever you come down what you feel about capital punishment,
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you want it to be not arbitrary like it is now. >> the reason we clicked is we both have the same passion. >> thank you. >> really, when you read the book and remember you called me and then we went to a cajun restaurant to eat and hatched the film. you said we need another kind of film on the death penalty because the way the films are done, you know, the whole thing is are they guilty, innocent, guilty, innocent, all the energy goes there and found out they are guilty so the movie ends with execution end of the movie. >> right. >> justice is done. >> after thought in a sense. >> what is the story underneath it of what does it mean to devil into giving our government the power, the option to decide that some of us citizens have done such a terrible crime they should die to get into that. i didn't know what i was getting into. >> it's a question not deserves
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to die but who deserves to kill? does it say about a society that kills like this because we are just the only nation besides japan that has the death penalty. what does it say about us when our system of justice is so faulted and those that end up on death row because of the inequity of having the money to have a good lawyer and everything else, rich people, white people do not end up on death row easily. >> or white people who do end up on death row, it's almost everybody's poor and it's almost always because you killed a white person. that's where the race, the race of the victim that's the most telling thing because when people of color are killed in this country, they are over 50% of the homicides, it's hardly a blip on the radar screen. >> wow. >> because you really have to be outraged over the death, really see a victim killed as a value to the society so that you seek
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an ultimate penalty that takes years. >> incredible racism there but i wonder when people feel so strongly, whether it's arbitrary or caprious, try to put yourself in the position, what if something horrendous and unspeakable happened to somebody i loved? >> of course you feel that way, the revenge, that's different as an individual than society and i talked to many mothers that lost a child to a horrible murder and feel that in respect for the person that they have lost, they don't want to live their life in hatred. this act and you see so many gestures of someone forgiving and because of the love they have for this person, because of the memory they have for this person, but unfortunately, very often we equate how much we love somebody by how much we want revenge for that death and that's a very difficult equation because inevitably when someone
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witnesses an execution that they feel is going to somehow make them feel better about the child or husband or grandmother they lost, and then it's over too fast, too little, too whatever because it can't bring your child back. it can't bring your spouse back, and it becomes very unsatisfying. so it doesn't provide the healing that you hoped. >> pretty incredible answer >> pretty incredible answer there from susan sore ran done. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >> tonight the drug fie -- violence so many central american kids are fleeing. >> a dire warning from israel and hamas leaders, you target us, we'll target your airliners. it's a slam dunk for his home state and rebound for lebron james. >> we begin with thousands of stds in limbo here in the united
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