good evening, thanks for joining us. welcome to another special hour of live "360." 4:00 a.m. in eastern ukraine, breaking news, the shootdown of an airliner in ukraine and the launch of ground forces into gaza. it's a busy and frankly, grim night as it has been a gram day. we begin with the question everyone is asking about the downing of malaysian airlines flight 17. who did it? who tracked the plane? who aimed the missal? who launched it and on whose behalf? whoever did it, this is the destruction. this is the crash site and in that field of twisted metal, the remaining of 298 men, women and children including three infants. we got a break down of the na nationalities of who lost their lives. 154 were dutch, 43 malaysian, 12

in in12, indo knee sha. unclear how many are american. a number of people on board were traveling to an international aids society conference in melbourne, australia. what we just don't know and what we don't want to get ahead of on the facts is who ended their lives. why did they do this? we'll look at what the intelligence community knows about what happened so far, and we're going to hear from people who lost loved ones in what began as another routine flight. malaysia air phone lines flight 17 departed amsterdam at 12:15 local time. 298 people on board, 283 passengers, the rest crew members. the flight's path went over central and eastern europe

before continuing on into asia but at 2:15 they lost control while it was cruising at 33,000 feet. >> a malaysian airlines flight with about 295 people on board has crashed we are told. >> it's last known locations in the donetsk region of eastern ukraine, 30 miles from the russian boarder, an area ripe with prorussian separatists. this video shows the moment of impact. parts of the plane crashing into a field. debris scattered for miles. person belongings in tact on the ground. a reporter at the site described the horror. >> it's a gruesome scene. there is bodies throughout the fields. people said the plane exploded in the air and everything rained down in bits and pieces. the plane itself, the people inside. >> president obama was notified on the phone but russian president vladimir putin as

initial reports began surfacing and pledged his support in any way possible. >> i directed my national security team to stay in close contact with the ukrainian government, the united states will offer any assistance we can to help determine what happened and why. >> a u.s. official confirming to cnn the plane was brought down by a surface to air missile but exactly who fires that missile is still unknown. ukraine's prime minister quickly laid the blame squarely on separatists. we do not call it an incident or catastrophe. there were warnings for passenger planes flying over parts of ukraine. the faa banned u.s. flights from flying through in april but no such bhans existed for flights over this part of ukraine. certainly not at this altitude, 33,000 feet. i spoke with a freelance journalist named noah snider.

noah, where are you exactly? >> we are in a village a little ways north of the city called torrez. it's kind of a long, long road and a big, wide field where the debris and the wreckage from the plane is kind of sprayed out, and there is still emergency crews working but it's getting dark so folks are trying to wrap up for the day. >> who is in control of the site and what are you seeing? >> the site is controlled very clearly by the separatists dnr, donetsk people's republic forces. there are rebels down the road, but i think most people here have been hearing battles with the ukrainian forces for a few days not stationed far down the road and i mean, at the moment i'm not seeing much of anything. it's pretty dark. when you get here it's a

gruesome scene there is bodies out through the fields. people said the plane kind of exploded in the air and everything rained down in bits and pieces. the plane itself, the people inside. >> how in tact is the debris that you saw earlier? i mean, how large are the pieces of debris? >> pretty burnt. it's going to be nearly impossible to establish with any certainty what happened here. there is a few sort of engine rotors, big, huge yellow pieces that are still in tact but for the most part everything is burnt up and charred and scattered over a few kilometers through the fields. >> how wide a field of debris are we talking about? >> i mean, it's hard to say with certainty but maybe five kilomete kilometers. it's a pretty wide radius. the debris starts kind of up the road.

there is a tail spin and you come a little further down and see the place where the emergency services crews have set up a base of sorts, some firefighters, rescue teams, and they are kind of in the center of where most of it landed. there is a white tent out in the field where they are collecting bodies, but you can kind of wonder through these open fields. there is not much of anything. there is a chicken farm nearby, or a chicken factory as someone said and then these little sort of ukrainian villages, homes and not much of anything. >> so an effort has been made and is being made to collect the remains of those on board? >> absolutely. absolutely. rescue teams have been going through the fields for the last few hours marking where bodies are by tieing white cotton ribbons to sticks, so when you walk through the fields, if you

see one of those, you know that's where a body is. but there is still a lot, i mean, 295 people on this plane and i don't think they found all of them yet and it's too dark now really to do much more work so people are trying to figure out at the moment what to do with this site for the night. like i said, it's kind of an open field. it's unclear. they don't know what will happen overnight, and it's going to be really difficult for anyone to secure this in a way that would be certain that no one can come in. >> we've seen images, noah, of passports, a travel book for bali, are people's possessions clearly visible? are they clearly retrievable? >> they are visible and being collected. that's one of the things that these rescue teams are doing,

but i mean, if you -- as you walk through the field, you see the bodies, you see a man with his cracked iphone sticking out of his pocket. you see sort of people's, i mean, clothing everywhere, most of it is kind of ripped off by the air. there is suitcases and stuff in a pile along the road. one was telling us they seen lots of headphones. that was the thing they noticed most. people had been flying i guess, listening to music and watching movies, and so they have been finding lots and lots of headphones. >> is an effort being made to collect passports, to collect identity documents? >> yeah, i mean, they are trying to collect everything they can, but first and foremost, bodies. i think that's my sense is that's the rescue crew's number one priority right now, collect as many bodies as they can and

gather them under the tents, gathering points. some people are picking up personal effects, some people are walking straight by them. it's also, you know, keep in mind it's kind of long, long grass and like i said again, a really wide field to finding things like passports is a matter of chance. >> well noah, i appreciate you talking with us. i know this is a horrific scene -- >> absolutely. thank you for having me. >> i appreciate the way you handled it and communicated it to viewers. thank you very much. noah snider, an american freelance journalist on the scene of this crash. extraordinary job he did. i want to bring in the panel now, jim sciutto with more breaking news, richard quest and national security analyst fran townsend. jim, u.s. intelligence is saying

a missile did take down this plane. what kind of intelligence are they actually pointing to? >> two things, two indicators, u.s. assets in the region, one, they picked up the radar from a missile system tracked on, locked on to this aircraft before it went down and two, other assets detected the missile fire, the fire, the rocket fire in effect out of the back of the missile as it rose towards the aircraft. those are two indicators this is a surface to air missile strike. >> fran, take us behind the screens, what are intelligence agencies doing at this hour to determine whose responsible, the track of this missile and do you see this as something that takes a lot of time or something you think they will know pretty soon? >> this is pretty, you know, the facts, even until the last couple hours, anderson, we're learning more and more as jim described to you. so by in large what they will look at first and foremost is the technical intelligence, that's the things that jim

described, radar, the firing of the missile from the surface going to the air and so those are technical pieces of -- that's science and those are hard facts. in the meantime, the rest of the intel jebs community will look at things for source information. signals intelligence, intercepts, you know, let's be honest. it's no secret there is a good deal of effort put against the russian target that is the russian government. so you'll especially be focussed on that to see if there is acknowledgement that they are not telling us about that they actually confirmed they had provided the weapons or have some knowledge about who fired the missile. >> fran, do you have any doubt the russians know who did this? >> absolutely. the russians know with 100% clarity who did this. it's becoming clearer and clearer over time, although they are still putting the story

together, intelligence agencies, that it was likely to have been, though not yet confirmed a russian supplied weapons system and once you have confirmed that, you can be sure the russian intelligence services put together a chronology and timeline and briefed president putin who also probably at this hour knows exactly who was responsible for firing the missile. >> richard, let's talk about flights over this area. faa said don't fly over crimea region back in april when this conflict really began. but this was a plane flying at 33,000 feet. did anyone expect that a plane at that level could be shot down given the weapons system? >> no, i mean, the faa, which of course has jurisdiction for u.s. airlines, it's the europeans, controlled in europe would have had the same exact restriction over crimea and the northern parts of the black sea. that was in place. but we're what we're talking about here is not covered by any

faa or european restriction. what it was covered by is the ukrainian government which had closed, ground to 32,000 feet and enforced that. this plane was at 33,000 feet. there were three other aircraft in the region at the same time. so although clearly a question in this investigation will be why any aircraft would be in that area would an airline take that route. >> is that a route airlines would have to take to get from point a to b? >> within a several hundred mile radius. you can go to the south, middle, north. yes, you have to take one of those routes and as chad myers reported in previous days thanks aircraft or that mh 17 had taken a more southern route rather than the northern root but it was avoiding that because of thunderstorms we believe. is that relevant in this

investigation? we'll have to find out. we don't know at this point. at the moment, i can tell you two things, firstly, eros control shut western ukraine air space. nobody is flying there. secondly, one chief executive of an airline e-mailed me tonight to say we've been flying over ukraine for weeks. we're redoing the maps now tonight for tomorrow but everybody has been flying over ukraine. british airways will stop, i can go on and on. they have been taking that route so far. >> jim, there is reason to believe the russian separatists could be behind this, obviously, we've been talking about that. they got their hands on a missile system that could do this kind of damage, right? you've been in this region. >> that's right, this is something ukrainian officials have been telling me all day and drew my attention to this, we have a tweet that went out when

russian separatists at the end of june over ran a ukrainian military base in eastern ukraine where one of these missile systems was, you see the picture there is and as they over ran it, they bragged about it. they took a picture of it. this is the donetsk people's republic. this is by prorussian separatists and bragged about taking one of these systems. there were other stories on russian television about it and this is something that ukrainian officials have drawn my attention to to say this missile system is capable of striking an aircraft at 33,000 feet and low and behold. the prorussian separatists got their hands on one some two and a half week as ago and this is part of the reason ukrainian officials have gone farther in assigning blame. they assign blame and it's not just the fact that they got hold of this weapon system, it's that there were other tweets today

from prorussian separatists leaders at the time that the plane went down claiming credit for shooting a plane down which they thought was a ukrainian military transport. >> and intercepted communications that they talked about several hours ago. we'll hear more perhaps from u.s. intelligence on whether they intercepted communications as well. >> someone who lost several friends on the flight, her thoughts and she wants to tell us about some of those on board the aircraft, what we know now as our coverage tonights as we will be right back. ♪ i got to be pretty good at managing my symptoms, except that managing my symptoms was all i was doing. ♪ when i finally told my doctor, he said my crohn's was not under control. ♪ he said humira is for adults like me who have tried other medications but still experience the symptoms of moderate to severe crohn's disease.

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the grim task of recovering the victims will get back underway again when the sun comes up in eastern ukraine is happening, as we said, in a war zone which greatly complicates that and the investigation. nick robertson is in kiev and

joins us live. what do we know about the investigation on the ground, nic? >> reporter: what the government is saying it's been hampered in efforts so far. it was restricted, it's got five rescue and investigation teams it says it's been able to send in now but they weren't allowed to go in until many, many hours until after the insurance tent took place. they have been hampered on the ground because of the area of debris is a large area. the government doesn't have control over that area, control is between different separatists, factions to the moment. from the government's perspective, it cannot conduct this investigation, as it would like to. it seems hard to imagine how the president's call for an international investigation with international investigators from malaysia and holland -- go

ahead -- because -- right now. >> nic, we're taking hits, probably weather-related hits to your live shot so it's hard for the viewers hear you complete sentences so we'll dump out of that. appreciate the reporting. we'll try to reconnect later. tonight, the 298 that boarded flight 17 today, we know they came from all over the world, 15 crew members, 283 passengers including three infants. according to an airline official, all crew members were malaysian. one was friends with several of them and i spoke to her a short time ago by phone. i'm so sorry for your loss. tell me about your friend angeline. >> angeline -- >> tell me about her. >> she really like something very adventurous like outdoor like scuba diving and i know she

likes traveling, as well. >> you have another friend on the flight? >> yes, she live very close to me. >> tell me about her. >> the last we really met and then we went out and then actually i have good news for her. i've been waiting for her to come back and i want to share with her. >> what is she like? >> she's a very outgoing girl and very simple, you know. she is not that kind of like, she likes sports. she likes to eat and then she's a work. >> she likes to work? >> she really likes her work. she would never miss a flight. >> did she love to travel? >> yes, she does. >> how did you first meet? >> i met her actually because we do training together, and then we find that we have a lot of conversation and then we

actually can really talk. that's why i really like her company. >> and did you actually take her to the airport? >> in fact, the other day she just told me she didn't have transport and then she says is it all right for you to come and pick me up? i said why not? i send her to the airport and i say i wait for you to come back and she never come back. [crying] >> does it seem real to you at this point? >> sorry? >> does it seem real? >> no, i just hope this is false. i tried to message her but no answer. >> you tried to message her. >> the last i message her she was about to checkout at the airport in amsterdam. i just tell her that when you

come back, you know, i got some good news for you, things like that. >> you told her you had good news for her when she got back. >> yeah. about the off days that i managed to do it for her so she can go back to her hometown and celebrate with her family. >> when you first heard the news about the plane, what did you think? >> i was very surprised. i just hoped that it was -- it was just a false news, it's not true. until now. >> now many of the flight attendants did you know on this plane? >> a few of them, i think. at least three or four. >> you knew three of four of them? >> yeah. >> well, i'm so sorry for what you're going through and i'm so sorry for your losses. >> it's okay. thank you. >> thank you so much for talking to us carlman.

>> thank you. >> carlman shared photos with us with her close friend on flight 17. you can see those on our website at ac360.com. more on the flight path and how the shootdown is affecting the routes other flights take and the results from israel and gaza. ality for over 19 million people. [ susan ] my promotion allowed me to start investing for my retirement. transamerica made it easy. [ female announcer ] everyone has a moment when tomorrow becomes real. transamerica. transform tomorrow.

more commercial airlines are taking different routes tonight away from eastern ukraine as it was reported after flight 17 was shot down and new restrictions from the faa. chad myers joins us with more. what are you learning about the flight path?

it had to take a different path because of a thunderstorm? >> there was an area of thunderstorm activity down here. that's the normal area that the flight takes. i've gone back a month and the flight is always farther south than where it was. the lines on this map of europe are like the interstate system on the ground for us in the u.s. a plane will fly from one way point to the next, not even going straight all the time but the corridors that the planes fly in. it's not chaos up there. it's actually in the line. you're going right behind a plane that just went in front of you, maybe a half hour, hour, whatever it might be. this is the line the plane usually took. let's call it interstate 190. it is m 190. yesterday it took a little farther to the north 991 but because of the weather it had to take 980. this doesn't look like a lot but 200 miles from the south to the north this could have added to the confusion as to that plane has never been here before, hasn't been here in a month, what is that plane up there?

there is the weather there, thunderstorm right in the way of the morning plan so they moved the plan a little farther to the north. now there is a new note that came in. notice to airmen, this is the area down here restricted earlier. now all of eastern ukraine absolutely restricted to all u.s. planes, the faa put this out now, a new noticed airmen activity in this area, flights in this area and they are using this word, prohibited. not frowned upon but the word is prohibited. so we won't see any u.s. aircraft and probably no aircraft at all over the eastern part of the ukraine. there is the storm activity there that put that plane on the northerly flight path maybe 200 miles but that was certainly enough to get in the way of something. >> chad, thanks very much. i want to bring in richard quest and cnn safety analyst david. the fact this flight was traveling through what was basically a war zone, it is kind of remarkable in retrospect,

hindsight is 2020 but you were hearing from pilots today saying we've listen flying this and been scared. >> yes, several pilots told me they have been unhappy flying over large parts of ukraine, and i suppose the way one put it is it's an accident waiting to happen in one respect. just to add to what has been usefully told, he's right, nobody is flying in eastern ukraine because you aeurope ban all flights in that area. european, u.s., no u.s. carriers were going that way. nobody is in that area at the moment. the issue will become what contribution, if any, did taking that northern route add to this situation? even baring in mind that the pilots involved were perfectly legal, 33,000 feet over that airway. >> david, you've been involved

in a number of crash investigations, how critical is time here in terms of getting investigators, competent investigators onto the ground dealing with the wreckage, examining the wreckage, collecting it, even, you next examining the victims from this flight because evidence can be gathered from them, how important is the clock here? >> it is extremely important. to be able to get people in there to know what they are doing, i was looking at the video not only for their personal safety, what they are walking through, accident sites with, when i do an accident site, i'm in a white suit, everything you see is hazardous materials whether from sharp objects or whatever it might be, you'll get that in your body and be sick. those people out there doing this now uneducated have personal damage to themselfs is high risk. now the second part of this, too, is the containing of the evidence and the traceability where the aircraft goes, the

custody of those parts is extremely important because you have to create a chain of events and the custody is extremely important in the chain of events if they are disturbed in any way, it can lead you down the wrong path and change the investigation significantly. >> richard, i got to say if i had a loved one on board the plane or as a journalist interested in finding out the truth on this, the idea of having russian authorities, separatists authorities or frankly ukrainian authorities in charge of this investigation could, i mean, it raises all sorts of questions. they obviously all have, you know, very significant motives for wanting to have a certain determination from this crash. you really want to have an international team of impartial investigators on the ground. >> absolutely. ukraine has already claimed its stake as the state of a occurrence to look into it and the investigation and been in touch with iko. russia, well russia at the

moment doesn't have jurisdiction. it's on the ukrainian side. russia might try to but at the moment, if it's anybody's, it's ukraine's. >> you could have a situation where you have separatists taking the black box and bring ig it over the boarder to russia. >> and then you'll have a jurisdiction mess who does it which is why very quickly, iko, the body in control and all the major organizations, the waaip, the bea of france, germans, americans, the investigating authorities must come out and say very quickly, when this happens, we insist it's done through this organization. even if treaties say otherwise, because you're right, there is going to be a serious credibility question on who investigates. not to say, of course, the russians couldn't investigate. the ukrainians might not have technology to. >> i'm not just talking for

geopolitical concerns but basic human dignity for those who lost their lives and for their loved ones to know the truth. >> there is still a dispute over the crash of the plane carrying the polish president that went down on the russian side and the russians did what seemed like a perfect investigation but people say, nothing of the sort. >> richard quest, appreciate it, david, more on this shortly. there is other breaking news to tell you about tonight. next the latest on israel's move into gaza with reports from gaza city and jerusalem tonight. ♪ so nice, so nice ♪ sweet, sweet, st. thomas nice ♪ ♪ so nice, so nice ♪ st. croix full of pure vibes ♪ so nice, so nice ♪ st. john a real paradise ♪ so nice, so nice ♪ proud to be from the virgin islands ♪ ♪ and the whole place nice [ female announcer ] to experience your virgin islands nice, book one of our summer packages today.

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the other breaking news event with far reaching implications after ten days of air strikes and intense fighting, israel launched a ground operation to gaza into israeli territory. hamas says israel will pay a heavy price. wolf blitzer and ben wedeman. let's start with you, men, what's the latest on the ground there? >> well, at the moment it's relatively quiet. we heard a few booms a little while ago but watching now there are none but there were flairs being fired behind us on the boarder close to the boarder to israel. in fact, there i think you can see one of those flairs in the distance and those are clearly

to eliminate some sort of ground activity in that area. we've heard a lot of bombardment to the north of here along the northern boarder with israel and a lot of action in the center of gaza where according to some sources, it appears israeli tanks have entered gaza really in the middle, perhaps to reproduce what they did in 2009 when they cut gaza strip in three parts to try to prevent the movement of weapons and fighters among those areas, anderson? >> wolf, you talked to israeli officials who said look, this is largely aimed at trying to shut down tunnels that hamas as done underneath the boarder into israel. have they given an indication if they accomplish the destruction of those tunnels, that they will withdraw from gaza or is the operation larger than that? i mean, given the number -- >> i think it's larger -- >> it seems quite large. >> i think it's larger than

that. that's the number one priority. you can't get to the tunnels the israeli's military experts say by air power. you need to go in on the ground to get tunnels. that's the top mission, but they want to destroy or capture as many hamas rockets and missiles as they can. they are in storage facilities around. they think a lot of them in northern gaza closer to israel, they think the hamas launched more than 1,000 so far but went into this operation believing hamas had about 10,000. they want to do as much damage to the hamas military before there is a seize fire, before they withdraw. they make it clear, they don't want to reoccupy but you correctly point out they mobilized at least 40,000, probably closer to 50,000 troops right now. >> ben, i know you've been in tunnels between egypt and gaza tunnels which have been shut down by equipment -- egypt in

recent times. what do you know? >> the tunnels between gaza and egypt served a variety of purposes. weapons were smuggled through them but by in large commercial. they were very good for hamas because they imposed a tax on all goods going through, and at one point you could even order kentucky fried chicken to be delivered through those tunnels. the tunnels into israel are for one purpose and one purpose only and that is to somehow attack israeli forces, and certainly what hamas would like to do is repeat what they did in june 2006 when they were able to capture an israeli soldier who was released in a prisoner exchange deal in november 2011. so those tunnels are purely for military activity unlike those with egypt. >> ben, be careful. wolf blitzer as well. thank you very much. next, the fighting that's the

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flight 17 was shot down in a volatile corner of the world to say the least, we're talking about ukraine. the jet was shot done one day after the u.s. imposed sanctions on some of the biggest companies including the largest oil produc producer. sanctions sparked by the failure to curve violence in the ukraine. here is a look back how we got to this point. february 2014, independent square burns after months of tension. thousands of demonstrators gather to protest the government of then president. they are angry at the close economic and political ties to russia and the rejection of the eu. it's the biggest show of force against a government since the country declared independence in

1991. dozens of police and protestors are killed but demonstrators don't back down. they flee the country and soon a new government is elected but the conflict is by no means over n. march prorussian gunmen in the southeastern part of the country. the peninsula is populated by ethnic russians and important because of the naval base in the black sea. later that month, crimea vote to leave ukraine and join russia instead, the move supported and promoted by russia itself and condemned by ukraine's government and allies. >> we will not accept russia's occupation of crimea. >> ukrainian government rejected the vote and russia responded by masking troops along the boarder. prorussian separatists started accumulating heavy weaponry and in recent days made claims they shot down several ukrainian

aircraft. another sign the violence in this region has no end in sight. host of cnn's "gps" joins me now and i think a lot of people, this conflict faded from the headlines from coverage in the united states but today is a reminder, a shocking reminder, if anything, it's as intense as ever. >> and also a reminder you touched on, anderson, in that report which is the government of ukraine does not actually control all the territory of ukraine, and this happened in a part of ukraine that the government ocf ukraine does not control. it's controlled by prorussian rebel forces. there is a lot of reporting that says there are a lot of russians people that have gone in there. >> and ukraine government accuses them of being linked in that way. >> precisely and a lot of equipment they got, they got from the russian government almost certainly.

this should be an opportunity for the entire world for the west, for the united states to say, let's end this first once and for all, the government of ukraine has to have control over the territory. the army, ukrainian army should go in there, clean this out and the russian government at this point, i think is on the back foot, will not be able to try and mound a spirited defense. you've got to allow the kiev government to react. >> we seen advances against separatists. earlier on when the military tried to move in, it was a pathetic display. they basically got turned around and stopped by mobs of people. there are advances by ukrainian military in the last couple weeks. >> exactly. part of it is they are getting their act together. the ukrainian military is riddled with russian spies and forces. so that made it very difficult. this is all an opportunity to

clean that up, to allow the government of ukraine to have to sweep out some of the forces. this would be an opportunity, particularly if the europeans really lay down the line. putin is going to field on the defensive here. this would not be a time to mount a russian counter-offensive. >> jill, were you surprised by vladimir putin's reaction earlier today saying essentially, if there wasn't strife on the ground, the military conflict on the ground, this wouldn't have happened? >> yeah, what fareed is talking about makes sense logically. but tell that to vladimir putin. just today he is basically blaming this on ukraine, blaming it on that anti-terrorist operation that they have been carrying out. and so i don't think he sees the logic that fareed is talking about. >> it's also interesting. i'm just getting a new report on it. i just wanted to read this off. a cnn u.s. official is telling cnn that the obama administration does not think the government of ukraine has air defenses in the region where

the malaysian flight 17 was shot and crashed. the ukraine may have the air defenses in other parts of the country, and that is leading the government to conclude that the government based in kiev did not have the capability let alone the motivation to shoot down the plane. the official also telling cnn that tomorrow we'll see the obama administration trying internationalize the wreckage site with the international community pressuring the pro-russian militias to allow others from outside the country to see the site, inspect the damage and determine the cause of the crash. this from our jake tapper. what do you make of that, fareed? >> i think it's very important, because we forget, and jill can attest to this. in russia what people are hearing is a completely different narrative. it's partly the one jill was alluding to where putin is saying look, the ukrainian military wasn't trying to take control of their own country, none of this would have happened because this area wouldn't be a war zone. but there are reports in russia that it is the ukrainian

military that shot down the plane because they were trying to shoot down vladimir putin's plane and missed. this is being widely broadcast. the russians have had this extraordinary propaganda offensive throughout this ukrainian crisis which has been noteworthy for two things. one, the sheer scale of the effort. but two, the bald-faced lies. they just make up stuff and put it out there. >> does that surprise you? and jill, i'm wondering your reaction to what jake tapper there was just reporting. >> it doesn't. you're talking about this approach by putin. it doesn't surprise me. and i think fareed is right about this approach, this propaganda approach. i've been watching the russian media very carefully recently. and it's completely controlled right now. on the internet, it's a little bit better. but for the people who watch tv, the people who watch tv in russia and people in ukraine, russian speakers who watch russian tv, it's one-sided.

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if malaysia airlines flight 17 were the first airliner to be shot down it would no way make the shock and sadness people are experiencing tonight different. a loss is a loss, especially an unexpected one. for the record, this is neither the first shootdown nor sadly an especially rare thing, as our randi kaye reports. >> reporter: september 1, 1983. korean airlines flight 007 en

route from new york's jfk airport to seoul, south korea. it's carrying 269 people, including a u.s. congressman. the plane is on autopilot, yet somehow drifts off course, heading straight for soviet territory. tensions are high, the height of the cold war. so the soviet union scrambles fighter jets. >> yes, i'm approaching the target. >> reporter: moments later, the pilot takes aim. >> missile warheads locked on. i've executed the launch. the target is destroyed. >> reporter: the plane is hit, but continues flying. it spirals towards the ocean for 12 terrifying minutes, then crashes into the sea. president reagan calls the attack a massacre. >> this event shocks the sensibilities of people everywhere. >> reporter: five years after that, iran air flight 655 is blown out of the sky. the airbus a300 was on its way from tehran to dubai, carrying

290 passengers and crew. the plane is brought down by a u.s. navy ship that happens to be exchanging fire with iranian ships in the area, just when the doomed aircraft flies overhead. the ship fires two surface-to-air missiles, killing everyone on board. >> captain rogers actsed reasonably and did what his nation expected him in the defense of his ship and crew. >> reporter: years later, the united states agreed to pay more than $60 million to the victims' families, though the u.s. never admitted responsibility or apologized to iran. in 2001, another tragedy, this time siberian airlines flight 1812 heading from tel aviv, israel, to russian, with 78 people on board. >> siberian airlines regretfully confirms that our flight disappeared from the radar

screens at 1345. >> reporter: the plane crashed into the black sea about two hours after takeoff, brought down by an anti-aircraft missile. the ukrainian military denied any involvement at first, but later did admit it mistakenly shot down the plane. the tragic result of a routine training exercise. >> translator: my father was on the plane. he has been living in israel for three years. we visited him last year and decided to invite him here. he had to come from tel aviv today. >> reporter: now with mh 17, more lives lost and more questions. were they purposely targeted or another terrible mistake? randi kaye, cnn, new york. >> so much loss. in the end, the answer may be simple. however, the investigation as we've been talking about is certainly not. and neither are the implications. hope you stay with cnn throughout the night for continuing live coverage of all the dimensions of this tragedy as well as the ground offensive

ongoing in gaza at this hour. that does it for our coverage. i'll be on the air again tomorrow at 12 noon to 2:00 p.m. and obviously tomorrow night on "ac 360." "cnn tonight" starts now. this is "cnn tonight." i'm don lemon. we have breaking news on two fronts. malaysia airlines flight 17 shot down over a rebel-controlled area of eastern ukraine. and israel puts boots on the ground in gaza. all day we have been telling you about the devastating scene in ukraine. but it's important for you to remember what we're really talking about is a tragic fate of 298 people from all over the world from the netherlands to malaysia. and amazingly, the same airline as flight 370 still missing without a trace. 15 crewmembers and 283 passengers, including three infant. freelance journalist noah snyder was on the scene of this crash.