i know you said the route is approved, but there's a war going on. do you think it is wise? an intent to fly family members over ukraine? >> as i mentioned, the route is the same route and most of the country are using this route. so, the next question -- >> at the moment, we do not have a plan to find the next of kin, we will comply with the next of kin of the repercussion. [ inaudible ]

>> we'll go to the next one. yes. >> my question is also about -- my question goes to the route. it is said it was said to be a safe route but it wasn't. many airlines in the world chose not to fly that route because of safety concerns, including qantas. will you take any responsibility for putting passengers lives at risk and for the death that is occurred? >> i mentioned, it was an approved route. some others didn't take it because they had another destination. understand, malaysia, amsterdam, malaysia, london. they have taking the route many, many times. since it's an approved route, it

is safe and that's the reason why we have used these routes. >> hi. from the guardian newspaper from the uk. can you confirm there wasn't a may day issued from the plane and if true, what does it mean about how the plane may have been shot down? from the cockpit first, which would indicate there was no warning? thank you. >> i don't have any information about this. >> yes. >> we done have any discussion from the cockpit. >> hold on, hold on, hold on. >> if you insist it's a safe

route, you have been flying all these years, why is malaysia airlines saying they will take an alternate route. would you have taken it before? >> no. after this incident -- now they are taking another route. >> right now, you are still flying that route? >> no, it's closed. the route is closed. >> we'll go to the next question. yes, the gentleman to the right, please. >> actually, the captain has sent a message to someone before the attack. right now, can you confirm the flight was on the correct route before impact and we want to know, if it is, why? what's the reason?

>> there's no distress call. the right group at the right time. >> last question. no, no, no. yes. >> how many days do you think we'll have access to the site and do whatever needs to do? >>. [ inaudible ] >> from there, they move to the crash site. because we have assurance it will create a -- for us to move

to the crash site. that is assurance for ukraine. that territory -- >> all right, ladies and gentlem gentlemen. >> just one final question. cnbc. is the black box -- what's the next best plan? >> getting authorities and the ukraine authorities. so, they would have to pick up these issues. >> do you think it's terrorism or miscalculation? >> all these speculation affects now. >> all right.

well, we are hearing questions about the black box starting to emerge. the malaysian officials saying, what if the russians have taken it. it is the responsibility of the ukrainians to be the ones to make sure that they have the black box. so, obviously, it's going to be interesting to see what happens with it. >> the malaysian officials facing questions from the international press about why mh17 was flying over that part of ukraine, a conflict zone between the ukrainian government, pro-russian separatists. malaysian officials insisting, a phrase they used, it was an approved route and they have been flying that route. >> emphasizing they are not alone in taking that route and

every other airline is taking it. >> that is a big question they will face. i want to go to kiev and nic robertson who is live there. give us the latest on the investigation and what we know about the crime scene, that is what it is right now in eastern ukraine. who controls it and who is heading up the investigation? >> reporter: well, right now, it is the separatists, the pro-russian separatists who control the area. the government doesn't control that. the government set up commission to investigate this incident. we understand those group of international monitors are about three hours away right now from the crash site. they are from the organization of security and cooperation in europe. however, we need to be clear on this. while they are an international group and the separatists are saying they will give them access, these groups, a military specialist is involved in

monitoring the military conflict. some are taken captive in the recent past. they are not necessarily aviation experts. they are now about three hours from the site. we understand from ukrainian authorities, 121 bodies have been recovered. they have ukrainian government has, in that area, 95 people involved in the recovery and investigation. 18 vehicles involved in that. however, they say those few people are hampered because of the wide scale that the debris is strewn over and the groups in that area are not under sell tran command are hampering their recovery efforts. >> if the audience is just waking up in the united states, bring us up to speed on the latest of what we know. u.s. government officials believe it was pro-russian separatists in ukraine who shot the plane down. why do they believe that is the

case and what has been transpiring in this area over the last several days? >> reporter: there are really two key points the ukrainian government put forward here. one is a recording between a pro-russian separatist and handlers. during these recorded conversations, it becomes evident that the pro-russian separatists shot down a ukrainian military aircraft. they dispatch people to the site. they discover there are civilians on board the aircraft. there's no military equipment and realize they shot down a ki vil yan plane. we cannot verify it. the other information they are putting forward is in the last couple days, several ukrainian military aircraft have been shot down. three days ago, an army

transport was shot down the day after that. that would be two days ago now. a ukrainian 25 fighter aircraft was also shot down by a pro-russian separatist or supporters in the same area. the government here making a very strong case that it's pro-russian separatists that are behind this. john? >> nic robertson live for us. we'll check in with you soon. it took off with 298 people on board and more than half of the passengers were from the netherlands. let's bring in aaron mclaughlin is live. we seem to have lost aari erin.

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give you a sense of other news going on around the world right now. anti-immigration activists launching protests with demonstrations in 250 locations across the u.s. today and tomorrow. protesters are expected to gather at street corners, state capitols and mexican consulates. activists have been turning away bus loads of immigrants, many unaccompanied children. john boehner called on the administration to speed up the deportation of children crossing the border illegally. the judge ruling same-sex couples can marry in the florida keys and the rest of monroe county, the state's most gay friendly location. same-sex couples can get marriage licenses as early as

tuesday. the attorney general appealed saying the voters will has to be resprekted. many approved an amendment defining marriage as between a man and woman. wildfires across washington state. officials around the towne advocate waited ahead of the creek fire. hundreds were told to evacuate from the resort town. 11 people were injured in a 24-vehicle pile up caused by no visibility. firefighters are bracing for more windy weather expected in that region today. health officials are recording the first cases of the mosquitoe born chikungunya virus in florida. a man in palm beach came down with the illness. it causes painful joint pain and arthritis-like symptoms.

health officials were bitten by an infected mosquitoe who bit someone who contracted the disease in another country. >> scary. a popular energy drink yanked from the shelves. five hour energy drink is misleading consumers. it falsely claims they get energy from a unique blend of energy. it comes from a concentrated dose of guess? caffeine. they claim it doesn't cause a sugar crash and is safe for adolescence. >> i stick to coffee. >> me, too. 12 cups a morning. we are going to get back to the breaking story in a moment. malaysian flight mh17 is shot down with new information emerging overnight. why other airlines have been avoiding this dangerous flight path for months. that's coming up next.

flight 17 took off from amsterdam with 198 people on board and more than half the passengers were from the netherlands. we have erin on the phone where friends and relatives are struggling to come to grips with the tragedy. this must be a painful day across the netherlands.

173 people from the netherlands were confirmed on board the flight. is the emotion am palpable there? >> reporter: hi. this has been described as a black day for the one tri. it's very much a nation in mourning. the flags across holland are flying at half mass. malaysian officials saying 173 dutch nationals were on board mh17. i'm at the airport. flights are leaving as usual. behind me, passengers are checking in for the same midday flight to kuala lumpur. as the family and friends on board are being cared for at an undisclosed location not far from here. they asked the media respect their privacy. it's difficult and possible to imagine their pain and suffering. also impossible to imagine the

relief of a woman who was supposed to be on the plane and missed their flight. take a listen. >> i'm shaking. i don't know what to do. i feel physically sick from guilt coming to the airport. i'm just thinking i feel like i have been given a second chance. >> reporter: the shock and relief in her voice. the dutch prime minister cutting his vacation short yesterday, arriving at the airport. he gave a press conference calling it the worst disaster in history. vladimir putin expressed his condolences to the prime minister as well as the dutch people. >> incredible to hear those words and look at the scenes. thank you very much.

>> a sad time it must be at the airport and around that country today. this morning, there are a lot of questions about this entire incident, including the questions about the route that was flown by malaysian airlines flight 17. >> many airlines have been avoiding that air space for weeks and months. why didn't flight 17 take the same recaution? joining us from london is british airlines pilot. we know that flight 17 wasn't traveling on its normal approved flight pattern because it was diverted due to weather. help me understand, when a flight is diverted due to weather, does it still fly along a flight path that is approved? >> well, yes. it wouldn't fly a flight path which is not approved. in fact, i'm not aware they altered their route because of the weather. but, they were flying along, i

believe airway 980 that flies over eastern ukraine. this is a conflict zone, a war zone. back six weeks ago, on the 6th of june, a military transport aircraft was shot down. one should ask why aircraft was still flying over that area, why it remained on open route for airlines to fly. as you rightly pointed out, a number of western airlines were not flying over that route because they, themselves decided it was a risk too far. >> as a pilot, when you are taking off from amsterdam or when you look at the route you have to take or plan to take, do you know that hey, look, this is taking me over a war zone where other planes are being shot down? >> well, yes. you would be aware of it. we have all been following the news in crimea and eastern ukraine for some months now. so you would be aware of it.

it really is down to your operations department, the airline department to decide whether or not that particular route should be flown. the pilots do have some leeway and can decide not to fly. it is unlikely they would make, in this case, a political decision not to fly on a route which, as the malaysian authorities have said, 15 of the 16 airlines were in fact flying. >> we know that oftentimes pilots and airlines are sensitive to impacts and things with a range in altitude of 4,000 feet or higher. some airlines have defensive measures here. against the sophisticated weaponry that seems like is involved here, commercial airlines don't have a chance, do they? >> no. none whatsoever.

they can take precautions avoiding areas like this. ask yourself whether it's far enough from the various aviation nations around the world have taken their eye off the bull here. from a layperson's viewpoint, this is a risky area to fly over. the restrictions over flying in that area were purely for the area over crimea. the reason for that was because they weren't clear over which air traffic controllers were in charge of that air space. may i add, the fact the black boxes have ended up in moscow suggest that the russians have some sort of control over eastern ukraine. i think the fingerprints of vladimir putin may turn up on the wreckage. >> that does raise so many questions people are asking all

over the world, including the countries where the passengers are from. thank you for your insight. appreciate it. clearly malaysian airlines flight 17 was shot down by terrorists. we have a lot of new information we learned overnight. we will bring you up to speed on all of it, coming up next.

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