until we figure out how to keep them away from children it's up to you to protect your child, be street smart and follow your gut. this is cnn breaking news. >> hello, everyone. this is a special sunday edition of cnn tonight. i'm don lemon. 10:00 p.m. on the east coast. we are live with two big breaking news stories tonight. in ukraine, day is dawning at the scene of the crash of flight 17. we have stunning new images of the site collected today by air bus defense & space analyzed by allsource analysis. they show how big the area is. more than 1300 acres. 251 bodies have been reportedly discovered and are being loaded into refrigerated cars on two trains in the rebel strong hold of tores. pro russian rebels say they may have the black boxes. will they turn them over? meantime secretary of state john kerry blasts what he calls

drunken separatists interfering at crash site. vladimir putin made a statement urging cooperation. we'll are bring you that as soon as we get it. and in gaza, hamas is holding a captured israeli soldier following the deadliest day in the show down between hamas and militants. there is an emergency meeting in new york on a day that saw hundreds of jewish new yorkers rallying in times square in support of israel. the latest on both stories for you. reporters live around the globe. martin savidge and martin, any information on the latest at the crash site? >> reporter: that's right. the situation has improved in the last day with the separatists allowing international osce monitors more access to the scene. some ukrainian government officials have been able to move

to the area. there's been a collection of some of the victims' bodies moved to several refrigerated train cars. two trains. we don't know the destination of those trains. the ukrainian government saying, as you mentioned, at least 251 bodies have been identified as well as scores of fragments. we don't know the exact location of the black boxes from the plane. one of the leaders of the separatists here has announced a certain number of technical objects, as he described it, have been recovered. they are not sure whether or not they are the black boxes. the osce international monitors say they have not yet seen black boxes. that's another mystery at this point. the dutch government says they are sending officials to ukraine now. the dutch say they want to set up in the eastern city of harkiv in the control of the ukrainian

government. they want to set up an operation center for identifying the bodies. and moving some of the bodies of the dutch victims, of course, back to holland now. we have also heard now from the russian president vladimir putin, who issued a statement calling this a tragic event. he called on all parties to stop the bloodshed adding that, quote, no one has the right to use this to achieve selfish political objectives. >> let's talk more about the black boxes. ukraine security service released video of what they claim is an intercepted phone conversation between donetsk people discussing that black box. take a listen.

>> there is also video from reuters which we have been showing which is thought to be one of the black boxes being carried from the crash site. do we know if that's actually one of the black boxes? and what does this phone conversation mean? >> we can't confirm the authenticity about whether or not that's one of the actual black boxes in the video. the ukraine intelligence services released a number of recorded phone conversations that are purportedly conversations between separatists and, they claim in some cases, conversations with their said to be russian handlers. we cannot identify and confirm whether or not those conversations are, in fact, those things.

there are a series of conversations talking about bringing in surface to air missile systems into the region about the immediate after math of what's believed to be the shooting down of flight malaysian air 17. then as we have just heard purportedly attempts to try to secure the black boxes and presumably get them away from the crash site into the hands of the separatists. again, we can't confirm this. this is part of the case that the ukrainian government is making accusing separatists of shooting down this airliner and accusing russia of backing them. those are claims denied by the separatists and denied by russia as well. this is part of the fierce information war that has been waged between the separatists, the russian supporters and the ukrainian government. the u.s. government coming down firmly on the side of the ukrainian government in this dispute saying, yes, we believe

that surface to air missiles were fired from this region to bring down malaysian air flight 17. they have even announced the name of the missile system saying it's an s.a. 11 buk surface to air missile system according to the u.s. embassy in kiev. >> ivan, thank you very much. we want to turn to the other big story of the day. the deadliest day yet in gaza. martin, the are brutal battle between hamas and israel saw a deadly day on both sides. hamas is claiming they captured an israeli soldier during an early morning operation. what do you know? >> if that's true it's a definitely a significant development in a day that's had no shortage of terrible developments. we should point out the israeli military has not confirmed nor denied the report that hamas has captured one of their soldiers. hamas released the identity and the i.d. number of the soldier.

that doesn't necessarily mean it's proof. the soldier was captured in the northeastern part of gaza which saw increased military activity from the israelis. this news comes at what's already been a very difficult day. a massive black cloud marks gaza's deadliest day. health officials report dozens of palestinians killed and hundreds wounded. while israel's military reported its highest number of casualties in a single day in years. with more than a dozen soldiers killed, battling greater than expected opposition. most of the civilian are victims were in northeast gaza which has been under heavy fire from the israeli artillery, tanks and aircraft. television broadcast images said to be in fr the neighborhood showing bodies lying in the streets. ambulance services were unable to respond claiming danger was

too great. panicked residents seen fleeing, explosions echoed off buildings. the neighborhood has been a center of terrorist activity for launching against israel and a hub of tunnels through which hamas moves supplies and militants under ground. hospital officials in gaza report they are overwhelmed with wounded and almost out of supplies. the international red cross was able to negotiate a temporary cease-fire to allow for the dead and wounded to be collected and for civilians to evacuate. but not long after that cease-fire began it was broken by more fighting with both sides blaming the other. in an interview with wolf blitzer, israel's prime minister defended his country's military operation. >> we didn't seek this escalation. hamas forced it on us. they started rocketing our cities, steadily increasing the fire. i called for deescalation, they refused. >> reporter: later in the day israeli leaflets were reported

falling warning are residents to leave. a clear indication gaza may have more violent days to come. israel is reporting now that the total death toll for soldiers stands at 15. medical officials say 425 palestinians have been killed. the u.n. says 70% of them are believed to be civilians. don? >> martin, thank you. we'll get back to you in a little bit. we want to break down the big international stories with fareed zakaria. we have breaking news i want to share. new comments from vladimir putin. take a listen to what he says about the reaction to this incident. >> translator: however, no one should have the right to use this tragedy to achieve selfish political objectives. such events should not divide but unite people. it is necessary that all the people responsible for the situation in the region would direct responsibility to their own people and to the peoples of

those countries whose representatives have been victim ares of this disaster. >> he's urging full cooperation with the investigation. >> translator: it is absolutely necessary that a team of experts under supervision of icao, the competent international commission, would be conducting work on the site. we must do everything to ensure that are their work has full and absolute security, ensure necessary humanitarian corridors are provided. >> this may be the most he's said on this situation. what's your expert opinion on what he says here? >> i think the putin strategy from the start of the crisis has been to say one thing and do another. you remember when he annexed crimea. he claimed the russian government had nothing to do with it. these were just loyal patriotic people in crimea -- >> the evidence shows, right? >> all the evidence shows these guys had russian are army uniforms with markings taken off. they had various equipment that

came from russia. so as far as i can tell, this is more about the kind of alternate universe of events that russia has created for its own people. remember, russian media are listening to a completely different set of facts here. they believe that the ukrainian government shot down the plane. they have heard stories of how the government was aiming at vladimir putin's plane and missed. accidentally shot down this jet liner. in that alternate reality putin says, oh, i'm urging everyone to cooperate. >> do you believe him? >> no. there is no evidence -- and we have heard from our reporters on the ground, that the pro russian separatists are providing access to the site. there is no evidence that they are providing access, most importantly, to the bodies of the people. there are 198 bodies stuck in refrinl rated containers on trains. it isn't yet clear whether the pro russian separatists will let

them get to the families. >> that's my question. what can the international community do about this to open at least urge cooperation? we have the bodies and the investigation under way. >> there is really one point of focus here. it is putin. it is a complicated situation. but nobody has more power on the ground than putin. remember,ing the ukrainian government doesn't control this territory where the crash is. that's the problem. this is controlled by pro russian separatists. we know putin has control. if not control, major influence. he's got to get these people to allow international investigators in to get the bodies back mostly to the dutch. there is no evidence on the ground for what putin is saying. so you're hearing good rhetoric. the problem is it's not being matched by actions on the ground. >> now let's turn to gaza and israel. hamas is claiming they captured an israeli soldier today. is this a game changer, a turning point in the conflict? >> no.

the israeli army will be disciplined as they always are. they will not pay much attention to that. they will prosecute the kind of came pain they have planned on prosecuting. after the campaign, they will figure out prisoner exchanges and things like that. this is what they have done in the past. the fact that there is one israeli captured, they will not let that hold the mission hostage. >> we have heard and seen reports where when there were air raids on gaza that israelis were cheering on the hillside. today, cheers erupted in gaza as a celebration for an israeli soldier being captured. why are they celebrating the capture of a soldier? why are they celebrating? >> oh, they are celebrating because for the most part, this is an asymmetrical contest. it's very lop-sided. there are probably under 20

israelis who have died and 500 palestinians, perhaps 3,000 injured. so this is one piece of victory they can point to. maybe they think as a result of it the israelis will negotiate. a lot of palestinian prisoners could be let out. it's just they are grasping for something which they can claim as a kind of victory. >> fareed, thank you. when we come back, i want to talk about john kerry's mission to egypt. will it work? ♪ ♪ great rates for great rides. geico motorcycle, see how much you could save.

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welcome back. washington putting pressure on moscow to aid in the flight 17 investigation. they warn russia will face consequences if hostile

conditions in ukraine don't improve. erin, what more is the united states doing to help ukraine recover from the crash and ongoing crisis? >> reporter: well, don, first and foremost the u.s. is contributing resources to the search and recovery for the crash just as it did in the ongoing search for mh-370. to that end, two fbi officials arrived in kiev, ukraine today. both the forensics expert and a general investigator. they will join the international inve investigative team including the dutch and malaysian investigators. it's proving to be difficult. for now they will work from the u.s. embassy in kiev and work under the direction of the you crane yan. their first order of business is to determine exactly what made the plane go down. the u.s. also separately sent an

investigator from are the u.s. transportation safety board yesterday. on top of all of it, there is the issue of how to respond to russia particularly now that officials say russian almost certainly assisted separatists at some point that enabled them to fire a missile at the plane. dianne feinstein put more pressure on vladimir putin to explain. >> i think the nexus between russia and the separatists have been established. so the issue is where is putin? i would say, putin, you have to man up. if this was a mistake, which i hope it was, say it. even if it was a mistake, it is a horrendous mistake to make.

it points out the futility of what's happening in the ukraine. there will be repercussions. >> we are hearing from members of congress who want to introduce legislation calling for steeper sanctions against russia. also president obama has said he plans to reach out to other world leaders and will try to get greater support are to clamp down harder on russia. don? >> in washington, erin, thank you for the worldwide outrage focused on the crash site. will we ever find out what happened and who is to blame? joining me is ambassador r. james woolsey, former director of intelligence and colonel rick francona. back with me, fareed zakaria. >> today we have reports of drunken separatists piling the

remains of people into trucks in an unceremony use fashion, removing them from the location. they are interfering with the evidence and the location. they have removed, we understand, some airplane parts. it is critical that this is a very, very critical moment for russia to step up publically and join in the effort in order to make sure there is a full-fledged investigation. we want the facts. >> this is going to be tough. fareed, to you first. the crash site still unsecured. people can't drive in it. you can just walk around, we are told. malaysian investigators have arrived. they are waiting for permission to get to the site. what needs to be done to get it to move faster. >> the most important thing is that this area needs to be taken away from the pro russian separatists. it needs to be placed under international supervision, international control. eventually you should go back to the ukraine government's

control. right now you need an international safe zone. the thing to remember is we have all seen enough police who-dun-its to know. the people who camper with a crime scene are guilty, doing it because they know there is evidence that could incriminate them. the fact that you have pro russian separatists doing stuff, not letting investigators in, moving bodies, moving parts around. it's all deeply damning. >> james, how long is this going to take, do you believe, to do this? as we look at this video. there is video from reuters appearing to show the flight data recorder carried from the field by pro russian rebels. no way to confirm the man holding this that it is, indeed, the black box. how long lit take? will they hand it over to the proper authorities? quite possibly. frank lirks i don't think it matters.

putin will do his best to make everything look as if it's not russia's fault and that he doesn't need to do anything. it's clear that what happened, the separatists who are russian-backed thought they were shooting down a transport, as they have before. they have shot down 12 planes in the last couple of months. instead they killed nearly 300 people. a terrible tragedy. i don't think there is a great deal of uncertainty about what's transpired. the key issue is how we can bring economic leverage to bear on russia. and to get a shift in behavior away from putin's desire to dominate ever increasing parts of central and eastern europe. >> colonel, i want to use the words of the australian leader today.

russia can't wash its hands of this. will world leaders step up? >> i don't know if they will. there has to be real evidence that putin's hands are on this. i think we know what happened. we know his fingerprints are on this. it is inconceivable the russian separatists shot this down without russian assistance. either training or direct involvement. you can't run the system by taking it into a field and turning it on. someone trained them to do it. didn't train them well because they didn't use all the tools they had. the world will be looking for proof of that before they can do anything. >> thank you. appreciate it. stand by. up a u.n. security down are krill tonight as the death toll mounts from tex employeding violence between israel and hamas. really... so our business can be on at&t's network for $175 dollars a month? yup. all five of you for $175. our clients need a lot of attention. there's unlimited talk and text. we're working deals all day.

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welcome back, everyone. the united nations security council in emergency session tonight over the violence with iz are reel and gaza. richard roth, we understand israeli's ambassador to the u.n. denying report that is hamas captured an israelile soldier. >> that's right. an emergency meeting on the middle east sunday night here in new york. ambassadors filing in late on the weekend. the subject, the gaza offensive, while the meeting is still going on, the israeli ambassador spoke outside the meeting and was asked by a report arer about the alleged kidnapping report. he said, quote, there was no kidnapped israeli soldier. those rumors are untrue.

that's the latest on that story. the meeting on gaza continues. there is some frustration from some ambassadors that no significant action could be established or is planned. the palestinians furious demanding on the biggest death toll day in gaza, where can they get justice. the palestinian envoy said, we tried three cease-fires. people in gaza, hamas keep lobbing in rockets. don? >> richard roth, thank you very much. we'll get back with richard in a little bit. back with me now is ambassador jim woolsey, colonel rick francona and fareed zakaria. what do you make of the denial of the israeli soldier? >> it's strange that it would have circulated as widely as it did all day and not be the case. i hope that's true that they did not capture an israeli soldier. maybe they captured him and he escaped. who knows? it is an odd sequence in the

news cycle. >> colonel? >> other news outlets had the name and serial number. so they have an i.d. card. we have seen this in the past. in iraq insurgents would say we have captured an american, show a set of dog tags but they could never show the soldier. so the hamas will have to show proof. >> are you surprise bid the denial at all? >> the palestinians make claims that don't prove to always be true. this is not unusual. >> this is the first thing i asked you about the soldier if it was a game changer. if he's not, that's different. >> it's easily disproved. why would they lie about it. it's confusing. >> the u.n. is estimating 70% of the palestinians killed are in gaza. they are civilians. can the international community do anything to protect innocent civilians in this situation? >> it's very tough for two reasons.

one as the israeli government points out hamas isn't particularly concerned that they locate weapons c are aches, even missile launchers, rocket launchers close to civilians within civilian compounds. because part of what they are trying to do is trigger an israeli reaction which will end up killing civilians. there is another piece. gaza is the most densely populated place in the planet. so these people are all huddled together. it points to the overall futility here which is that you've got four million palestinians who are neither ever going to become citizens nor right now seem to have a prospect of getting their own state. this is producing essentially a situation which is a series of explosions waiting to happen. if there isn't some effort to try to resolve this and move toward a two-state solution you've got a situation that's going to explode from time to

time. >> i will ask you this question. as i'm thinking about it it's like a beauty pageant question. world peace, right? it's serious. what will it take for israelis and palestinians? can they live together in peace? i'm asking you to solve world peace. what can be done to stop the fighting for good? >> of course they can live together as the former ambassador to israel, martin endo once with said they are all essentially the same people at a deep level. they have lived together in the course of time. palestinians and israelis look at the israeli arabs. 20% is palestinians who live there. what needs to happen is somehow you have to get past this. obstacle to get into the solution that everybody understands is going to be the solution.

here we know what the tunnel looks like. there is just no light at the end. >> ambassador? >> israel is one-sixth arab, largely muslim. the israeli-arabs have representatives. supreme court justice. they had a cabinet member for a time. newspapers and none of the worry that they will go home at night, have the door kicked down and get killed. if the palestinians and particularly hamas would treat israelis as well as israelis treat israeli-arabs then you might have some chance for peace. as long as the palestinians and particularly hamas hezbollah and the others that have gotten into the business of trying to kill as many israelis as possible. if they don't temper that, there will never be peace. >> all right. ambassador, fareed, colonel. we have much more to talk about. up next, we speak to family members of some of the people who were aboard flight 17.

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these last few days, heartbreaking for the families and friends of those lost on flight 17. cor pan was on board with his girlfriend. they owned a flower shop in the netherlands and were on their way to a week's vacation.

cor post add photo saying if it should disappear this is what it looks like, apparently a reference to malaysia's flight which is still missing. dennis, i'm sorry for your loss. how are you? >> i'm -- right now. >> how is your mother holding up? >> i'm sorry? >> how is your mother holding up? >> she lost her husband one year ago. i lost my dad one year ago and now my brother. you can imagine how terrible that is. >> i honestly can't even imagine. my heard breaks for you. i'm sure everyone who is watching as well. your brother was an avid poster on facebook. he was excited for his vacation to bali, i would imagine, with his girlfriend. i would imagine owning a flower shop, business, lots of work. they were probably looking

forward to getting away. you spoke with him before he boarded the plane. he famously posted the picture everyone is talking about. >> yeah. it was -- that was my brother. he was joking about the other airplane that was missing. that was my brother. he was joking about it. now it's real. >> have you been -- have you heard anything about your brother and when you guys might be able to bring him home? >> yeah. we have contact with a team and everything. we don't know anything about that yet. >> so you don't know. so you're just sort of in limbo now. >> mm-hmm. and waiting for service s servi

>> yeah. >> we are still gathering information on what happened on thursday. what questions do you want answered about what happened? >> i have so many questions. nobody can answer that. >> nobody can answer them right now? >> no. >> you know, it appears that this is going to be the loss of your brother and so many others as a result of another country's civil war, is there anything that you want to say to the international community to help you and families like yours out? >> i'm sorry, what did you say? i didn't hear you. >> yeah. the loss of your brother and the others on the plane is most likely the result of a civil war. is there anything you want to say to the international community to help?

>> oh, no. we are waiting. waiting. we are waiting. >> on a personal note, what would you like people to know about your brother? >> he was the most lovely brother and his girlfriend also. the most lovely girl in the world. now they are never coming back. >> dennis, thank you. >> you're welcome. >> thank you so much. our hearts go out for you. it's tough to try to conduct the interviews with people who have just lost their families. anyway, i will bring another person on named harun kaylore. his nephews were on flight 17. he joins me by phone.

thank you. how are you doing? >> we're holding up, don. thanks for having us and bringing tribute to the legacy of my nephews. >> yeah. as i was saying to the viewers it's so hard to do these interviews. i can't imagine. i know you agree to come on. how do you even do it? >> i'm doing it. i may be a little bit more detached than my sister and my mother. i think primarily i'm doing it because i'd like to share the legacy of my two nephews and share with the world what they meant to us. and hopefully honor them in some way. i really appreciate you talking to me and listen iing to their life story. >> indeed. it can be a tribute. again, when your heart is breaking sometimes you can't find words. i appreciate you coming on and paying tribute.

it just seems hard. let's talk about your nephews. ashaka was 19. 10-year-old miguel. they were traveling to bali to visit their grandmother. it must be a nightmare for you and your family. how is everyone dealing with it? i imagine people are coping quite differently individually. >> you're right. everybody is coping differently. their other surviving brother, the middle child, is 16. outwardly, he's brave are, as is my sister and my mother. but inwardly. occasionally. it comes in waves. one minute they are completely distraught and unconsoleable. the other minute they're just smiling and reminiscing and talking about, you know, the fun things that the boys did and the good things and the fun times, the memories. >> yeah.

>> you were a father figure to the boys. what were they like? >> they were great. i'm not just saying that because they are a loved one. they were great in school. had good grades, worked hard. they were honest. they were fun to be around. they were such a blessing to my sister. she's a single mom. having been separated the last four years. they were a joy to her. really the reason for her being in the last four years. >> you flew to amsterdam when you heard the news to attend the meetings of the families and the vims. do you have much information? do they have much information to give you? >> yesterday the two officers of the dutch police, the forensic agency or unit conducted a lengthy five-hour interview with my sister and my mother just to obtain information about the boys and what clothes they were

wearing and belongings and birthmarks. today, on monday at 2:00, the government is organizing a meeting of all the victims' families, a closed meeting i understand. but as far as information about the remains, about the repatriation of possible remains. everything is pretty blurry and status quo. there is really nothing tangible that we have been given so far. >> i think that you would probably want answer bus most of all you want your family members home so you can properly and respectfully honor them. >> yeah. precisely. we want closure. as devastating as the, appearance has been, you would like to have something to put into a grave. something that you can possibly even touch. that's been my sister's biggest

wish -- to have some remains or possibly the bodies intact to come home for her to have a last look at. or to honor them and put them in a proper burial grave and respect them. >> harun, thank you. >> thank you so much, don. i appreciate it. >> all right. coming up, flight 17's crash are site is not onlile the world's biggest crime scene. it is in the middle of a war zone making this investigation almost unbelievable bli complicated. next.

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welcome back. the latest transportation minister says an international team is being with prevented from entering the crash site. officials are concerned that the site has been compromised. joining me to talk about this, david souzi, author of "why planes crash," mary schiavo, an torchbearer for victims of transportation accidents, and floyd wisener, a principle in wisener law firm in chicago. i understand that you have a personal connection with one of the people i just spoke with who lost two of his loved ones, his

brother and sister-in-law on this plane. >> that's right. actually his nephews, harun is a friend of ours. >> hearing him speak bs, i just can't imagine that he can move or get out of bed right now. having represented family members, how do they gather such strength at times like this? >> you know, you've got me. i have been doing this for a couple of decades and sat across kitchen tables talking to moms, dads and spouses. i can't do it without choking up. i was amazed you were able to get through the interview. it's tough. >> i didn't really know -- i mean, what do you say to someone like that. >> what do you say? >> being in the situation like that you have to interview family members. that's part p of what you did. >> that's right. >> tell us about them and what they deal with. five hours, i understand they

have to spend with investigators to talk the about identifying their loved ones. >> right. over the years i have come to realize they want four things. they want accountability. they want the wrong doers brought to justice. they want change. they don't want things to just go on as they were. they want this to be a line in the sand. something happens so this doesn't happen to anybody else. they want the possessions back from the crash site because everything their loved ones had with them when they perished becomes very important, sacred. they want them back. this is terrible what's going on there. it's really significant to them. finally they want to talk about their loved ones. often i just let them talk. they tell me lots of amazing and interesting things about their loved ones. that seems to be the four themes i have noticed. >> thank you for being respectful of that. i appreciate that. we want to honor them as well. we want to find out what happened. it's important to honorer the victims of the tragedy.

speaking of the victims, the pro russian rebels, david, they are taking away bodies and supposedly putting them on refrigerated train cars. what's the standard procedure when something like this happens. >> processing, what's most important is to maintain dignity. maintain who it is, where it was found, where the body is going and documenting everything about it. are i don't see that going on here. i really don't see it happening. >> you don't? >> the bodies are being taken away. we have counts now as to how many they have taken away. at least they are in refrigerated train cars. i think they are realizing the importance of the dignity. >> let's talk about the evidence at the scene. we saw the reuters video. we don't know if it is the supposed black box. they are red or orange and they are carrying it in the field, what appears to look like a recorder. what's the procedure? what's going on here? >> this is what you don't do.

first of all, pick up something and carry it around. first you have to preserve the location. identify where it was found. that can give you clues as to how the aircraft came apart, where the missile hit the aircraft and how it proceeded from there. to carry it, it should be documented, registered as a controlled part. what's important here is especially if this turns into the war crime that the will have to be prosecuted, the chain of custody of all the equipment will be extremely important as we try to prove this and put pressure on putin and the others to do the right things in this investigation. >> floyd, how will all of this affect not only the investigation but any legal action families might need to take? >> well, there will be legal action. one will be trying to bring the perpetrators of the crime to justice. and that's going to be a political issue. i see it as outside the legal

realm. it will really be political. the second will be obtaining fair compensation for the families. that's where malaysia air, i believe, is responsible. under the montreal convention which governs liability to the passenger for malaysia air, they will be liable for damages to the passengers unless malaysia air can prove it took all necessary measures to avoid the loss. i don't think they can do that. it was traveling this route when it knew or should have known the route was risky. malaysia air will be on the hook for paying substantial damages to the passengers. >> for a second time. stick around. washington says the evidence points to a russian made surface to air missile fired from rebel territory. will russia pay a price?

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the government and rebels are trading accusations of blame for the downing of malaysian airlines flight 17. back now with my panel of experts. mary schiavo, david scousie. mary, let's talk about the treaties that govern how these disasters should be handled. can you talk about what happens here? >> sure. the main treaty we would be talking about is the montreal

treaty with provisions in it for -- there is one where you have nearly automatic payments called special drawing rights. it is worth about $175,000 u.s. beyond that the airline is responsible for the total amount of damages under the treaty unless they can prove they took all reasonable measures to prevent it. i don't think they can either. >> okay. >> the treaty doesn't have a lot of escape hatches like some other countries' laws do. >> thank you very much. everyone stand by. this is cnn breaking news. >> this is a special edition of "cnn tonight" live in new york. i'm don lemon. it is 11:00 p.m. on the east coast. we are live with two big breaking news stories this evening. in ukraine, stunning new images of the flight 17 crash collected by airbus defense & space analyzed by allsource analysis. they show how big the area is. more than