tv Forensic Files CNN July 20, 2014 11:00pm-11:31pm PDT
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about who is really in charge. the victims wbodies fell across a wide area. >> fascinating. >> she shows me where a naked woman smashed through the roof and in to her kitchen. she said that the body lay here for more 24 hours before it was collected. we meet others in the village that were trauma timatized by w they saw. this woman said she saw a woman fall, and a boy, it was like a horror movie. and we with find what is left of the cockpit and emergency workers cutting through its twisted instruments. across the crash zone, there's no effort to security to wreckage or preserve it as it was, no one is cataloging the
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debris field or the passengers belongings spread across i. when qualified investigators get here, they will find the evidence significantly altered, and the opportunity to prove how 298 people died may have already been lost. phil black, cnn. eastern ukraine. >> for the latest on the recovery everies, let's go to the city, and ivan watson, it's difficult to see video of these people who are not in any way authorities, just kind of picking through this crash sight, any word on whether they will, at some point allow aviation officials in from the other countries? who are headed there right now. >> well, the separatist leader here's, they insist that the door is open, for aviation officials to come in, and
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there's demands coming from the leaders of countries who's citizens aboard the flight, the may lasian and australian and dutch prime minister, demanding and quite critical of the effort saying open the doors, let people in and give us access to the victims' bodies a as soon as possible and hand overall the flight data recorders. also, these leaders have been making public appeals to the russian president, putin saying that he should make sure that he cooperate with an international investigation. and late sunday night and early monday morning the russian president made a statement, calling for an international investigation that would include getting access to the site, take
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a listen from president putin's statement. >> however on, no one should have the right to use this tragedy to achieve selfish political objectives, such events should not divide but unite people, it's necessary that all the people who are responsible for the situation in the region would direct their responsibility to their own people and to the peoples of those countries who's representatives have been victims of the disaster. >> so, while calling this a tragic event, vladimir putin saying that people are trying to use it for political goals. the australian prime minister has challenged the separatists saying they are basically being held responsible for shooting down the plane on thursday and the fact that they are in control of the crash site, effectively, again in the words of the australian prime
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minister, own tony abbott, leav the hands in the criminals. where is this criticism coming from? well the ukrainian government which has been battling the rebels in a deadly conflict for some three months has been releasing information, very incriminating, we cannot you authenticate all of it. this is a rebel commander ordering a subordinate to locate and secure the black boxes of the plane, and not let them get in to outdooutsiders hands. [ speaking in a foreign language ]
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now, natalie, cnn interviewed the prime minister of this self declared separatist region last night, asked about the black box and flight recorders. you are seeing footage of what could be a flight recorder being picked up two days ago. he asked him about that and the self declared prime minister said we have secured some technical objections but we are not experts and we do not know whether or notrecorders, so nob outside of here knows where the
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black boxes are and the leaders say they may have them but they do not have the expertise to confirm that the items they took from the crash zone, from what should be a criminal investigation site, don't know whether it is in fact a black box. >> those black boxes important, just as much getting investigators to the crash sitist. to prove what happened to that flight as well as the crash site continues to be manipulated. thank you. john? >> and amid the wreckage there's reports that separatists are mistreating bodies and evidence. rebels are denying claims that they have been removing human remains and tampering with the crash site. john kerry said that is not what washington has been told. >> today, we have reports of drunken separatists, piling the remains of people in to trucks in an uncermonious fashion and
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removing them from the location. they are interfering with the location and evidence, and have removed airplane parts. and the fact that they are controlling this in a way that is preventing people from getting there as the soite is tampered with lends itself to culpability. >> the you a nig-- the united nations security council has had a late night meeting. we have the details. the security council met late in to monday morning discussing a propose resolution that would call for an independent investigation, and it calls on all states to refrain, from
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interfering with any investigation and calls for a halt in fighting in the area, so the investigators can have free rein of what remains of the plane. and however, russia was the main hold out, proposing several amend mament amendments, concerned that the ukraine would have a hand in the investigation. it was said, we will see how it works out. earlier the british ambassador said typical russian stalling tactics. >> many, many questions on this one. and it's still continuing to be sickening to look at that crash site and see what is happening to it. >> absolutely. >> coming up, our other top tore, blood shed in the middle east. >> a brief cease fire ends in chaos with each side blaming the other for failing to hold their
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betweeni betwe between israel and palestine. the tol is 500 dead and most of them are civilians. and israel reports 13 soldiers for a total of 20 dead. >> >> advertise real's ambassador denied the claim. right now the military said they cannot confirm or deny it. and the search for diplomatic solution continues with john kerry due in cairo later today. >> time to go to jerusalem, marty, it is seeming after a brutal sunday, hamas is still trying to get in to israel through the tunnels. >> yeah, the tunnels are proving to be a problem, and it's the prime reason that it has been stated for boots on the ground. let's talk about what is going
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on in the northern part of gaza or southern part of israel. it's described as a security situation and it has been said, at least according to the isreali military that a number of terrorists, described as terrorist squads emerges from two different tunnels and apparently infiltrated in to israel with the intent of carrying out some kind of an attack. one of the tunnels and one of the squads of of eliminated with an air strike, meanwhile, israeli soldiers have have engaged the other militants there and the situation is said to be on going. those local residents, israelis that live in the area have been told to shelter in their homes. that is what is happening with the tunnels in that situation. there's said to be intense fighting in the neighborhood where we saw the escalation of fighting yesterday. unlike the artillery that we saw being used yesterday, the fighting is close in. in other words, it's soldiers
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combatting against hamas mill tans. the tunnels are a problem. they can move around, and pop up and toss a grenade before disappearing. tunnels play a roll throughout the entire military problem. >> in fact, that seems to be the main objective here by the israels. they put out a statement saying that six tunnels have been demolished, they paid a high price for six tunnels to be destroyed. >> well, you know, these tunnels are pretty heavily made, if you take a look at them, the video that isreali military put out, it's not like somebody dug 25 yea years underneath the ground. they are cement fort identified, so they are truly, real digs. and that is part of the problem. they are very extensive, according to the military and they are throughout at least the
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northern part of g aaza where ty are right now. it has allowed the movement of webs and it's not easy to just get rid of them. you have to troy to demoll issuing the whole thing it takes a great deal of time and explosive work. >> the other on going story at the moment is the fate of this captured israel soldier. the military say they have got him. and the ambassador at the u.n. he had is -- u.n. said it's not true. what is the story? >> it would be a tremendous change in the military operation. altering the way that israel responds. right now the isreali military said they cannot confirm or deny that one of their soldiers has been captured. the isreali military can't give
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a answer, is due to the -- it's been so intense, the fighting in the area, they are still trying to account for everyone before they say yes or no to the hamas claim that they captured a soldier. >> okay, we will leave it there. natalie? >> well, gaza officials say at least 60 palestinians died in a town alone on sunday. the red cross called for a two-hour cease fire, but they aaccuse each other of violating the temporary truce. ben was there. >> for a brief moment, the guns went silent. just enough time to take away the dead and under woulded and for everyone else -- dead and wounded and for everyone else to leave. or beg for help.
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>> i call for help. >> no come. >> my son is in the house, he is wounded, i called the red cross, i called for an ambulance, no one came, can you help me? >> we would have gone to look but -- >> go back, go back shouts the man who said a tank was about to open fire. everybody ran. a few blocks away. house after house battered by shelling. and an ambulance blown to shreds, another auto, window shattered. with the clock ticking, it's time to get out as quickly as possible. >> very bad. >> we went to get our things but the soldiers fired at us, this woman tells me. i ask method man why he did not loaf his home after being warned
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by the israelis? >> because we did not expect it to be like this, he responds. >> this is a shaky cease fire at best. everyone is jumping. even more jumpy when word spread that the cease fire had colla e collapsed few people had time to auction for long though. holding his year old daughter, i'm told he is going to take his family to the nearby united nations school, and a mantle a man tells him it's already fool. so many searching for safe ground, where there isn't any. >> okay. time for a short break, when we come back, we will turn to our other big story, malaysia airlines flight 17. weapons were in place to take
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corerespondant has more. >> a secret arsenal of weapon withes were moved in to place days ago, weapons that would lead down to the shoot down of malaysia airline 17. >> there was a convoy, several weeks ago, about 150 vehicles with armed personnel carrier, multiple rocket launchers, tanks, artillery, all of which crossed from russia and in to ukraine and was turned over to the separatists. >> on thursday, within hours of the plane dropping off radar, the u.s. suspected a shoot down. the ability to prove it was aassembled by an lists, scouring highly classified data from spy satellites, radars and phone intercepts. they narrowed in on two pieces
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of critical information. detected by u.s. satellite and radar feeds first, a surface to air missile system had been turned on in the eastern ukraine. a moment later, a u.s. satellite captured the heat signature of a midair exkploez. >> we know that within hours of this event, this particular system passed through two towns, right in the vicinity of the shoot down. we know because we have observed it by imagery that at the moment of the shoot down, we detected a launch from the area and our trajectory shows that it went to the aircraft. >> the conclusion, a russian supplied surface to air missile launcher. the evidence, according to the analysis posted by the tate department, intercepts of separatists communications posted on youtube by the ukrainian government indicate that the separatists were in oh,
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session of a sa-11 system. the s amp-11, the western name for it. u.s. intelligence matched the voices to other separatist recordings. the rebels claimed to have shut down a military personal property plan. when it was clear it was a passenger jet, social media posts were quickly deleted and then there was this. further evidence of a rush connection. u.s. intelligence has identified a facility in southwest russia where rebel fighters have been trained on surface to air missile systems. the u.s. said that more than a dozen aircraft were shot down over eastern ukraine. could the ukrainians have shot down flight 17, the u.s. said no. ukraine has the same weapons but
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none of those weapons were in the region at the time. cnn, the pentagon. and as barbara mentioned 12 planes not four. which was already told. why were commercial jets flying over this part of the eastern ukraine. and that situation may change after this. >> as soon as it was shot down, the tracking shows all of these airplanes diverting away. >> yes. hopeful it will stay that way. as thousands of gazans are left without shelter and how some are seeking refuge. what is benjamin netanyahu has to say about the civilians killed during this conflict. spokesperson: get a $1,000 turbocharged reward card
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