360." wolf live from jerusalem starts right now. wolf. right now, we're watching two imagimajor stories in gaza israel. more death as the world pushes for a cease-fire. in ukraine, investigators finally gain access to the wreckage from malaysian air flight 17 but fury towards russia continues to grow and president obama are asking what separatists are, quote, trying to hide. hello, i'm wolf blitzer reporting from jerusalem. i'd like to welcome our viewers from the united states and around the world. we're follow breaking news. the israel defense forces has just announced the deaths of seven more israeli soldiers. that brings the total to 25. 25 israeli soldiers who have been killed over the past few

days. 30 israeli soldiers were wounded today. 3 of them, the idf, the israel defense force, saysically the. more than 500 palestinians have been killed. most of them civilians. president obama stepped up his call for an end to the bloodshed in the conflict between israel and hamas. in a statement less than two hours ago, president obama again supported israel's right to protect its people, but he sounded the alarm over the growing number of civilian deaths. >> secretary serry has departed for the middle east. as i've said many times, es real israel has the right to defend itself against rocket and tunnel attacks from hamas. as a result of the operation, israel has already done significant damage to hamas' terrorist infrastructure in gaza. i've also said, however, that we have serious concerns about the rising number of palestinian civilian deaths and the loss of

israeli lives. and that is why it now has to be our focus and the focus of the international community, to bring about a cease-fire that ends the fighting and that can stop the deaths of innocent civilians, both in gaza and in israel. >> meantime, on the ground, here, israeli troops have been targeting hamas militants inside the country. inside israel. while palestinians say israel shelled a hospital in gaza. here are some of the latest developments we're following. the israeli military says it killed more than ten militants who infiltrated the country through those tunnels from gaza into israel. the defense forces says this video shows the hamas militants and the strike that killed them. watch. in gaza, the health ministry says five people died in an israeli strike on a hospital

there. a doctor appealed to other hospitals for help. help says the operating room is now inoperable. israel says it's looking into claims by hamas that it captured an israeli soldier. israel's ambassador to the united nationsish ish initiall disputed the claim. secretary of state kerry arrives in the region today. he's traveling first to cairo to push for a cease-fire. while on, the death toll rises. at least 500 palestinians have been killed. the death toll for israelis now stands at 27. 2 israeli civilians and 25 israeli soldiers dead. we're covering all sides of the conflict with our correspondents in israel and gaza. attika shubert is in israel. ben wedeman is in his gogaza ci. ben what can you tell us about that gaza hospital attack? that hospital had been shelled?

>> yes, that hospital, wolf, is in delebera which is south of here, hit in the afternoon by someprojectile. not clear at this point what it is. five people were killed in that strike. including one patient -- hard explosion to my left. and four people who were visiting, relatives in that hospital. now, what's significant is this is where the israeli military told people to go for safety in these recorded messages they've been sending out. those were -- messages were received by the residents of the muhasi and brage refugee camps, close to the israeli border. many of them have moved to this area and that is where the strike took place. this is repeating a pattern. we've seen people go from one area of gaza to another for safety and don't find it. wolf. >> as you know, ben, president

obama, he expressed concern about the rising civilian death toll in gaza. israel accuses hamas, as you know, of putting civilians in harm's way. palestinians paint a very, very different picture. what are they saying to you? >> well, there's some palestinians who will say that hamas does, in fact, operate in areas where there are civilians and there's a certain amount of resentment about that among some. on the other hand, there is growing resentment, profound resentment, and anger at the death toll. yesterday, by some estimates, it's more than 100, because many people believe they still haven't been able to dig the dead out from the neighborhoods, which i saw by -- with my own eyes, severely damaged by this israeli shelling. and keep in mind, wolf, of course, this is not a conflict that began earlier this month with rocket fire from gaza and israel responding. this is a conflict that goes

back 100 years. and for palestinians, they still pine to go back to their homeland. they still look across the border at towns like ashkelon and ashdod and remember the days their grandparents lived there and they see what's going on, the conflict, death, the destruction, as really part of that very long conflict. wolf. >> yes, it's been way too long, this conflict has been going on. ben wedeman, be careful over there. israel has vowed hamas will emerge from this conflict substantially weakened. president obama says israel has already done significant damage to hamas capabilities and is pushing for a cease-fire. atika shubert is joining us, she's along the israeli/gaza border, on the israeli side. any sign over there, that the prime minister, based on everything you're seeing as far as troop movements are concerned, that israel is getting ready for some kind of

cease-fire, withdrawal of its troops from gaza, atika? >> no, we haven't seen anything like that, and to be perfectly honest with you, it seems to be ramping up. we've been hearing artillery rounds throughout the day. we just saw fighter jets going by. if anything, it seems like the israeli troops are going in even harder. we have just confirmed with the idf, the israel defense forces that seven soldiers were killed today. we understand that four of them were killed in an incursion into israel with hamas militants actually able to tunnel inside. so with that tunnel network still being used in this way, it seems that for now israeli forces are going to continue with this operation and perhaps even escalate it inside gaza. >> those tunnels, the israelis say that's priority number one, because they've actually done a pretty good job deterring ordealing with the missiles, the rockets coming in, thanks to that iron dome anti-missile

system. if these tunnels emerge and there are openings from gaza to israel, the israelis are deeply worried hamas militants will go through those tunnel, come into israel and kill israelis. do you have any sense of how many of those tunnels have already been destroyed and how many more may be out there, atika? what are you hearing? >> there could be dozens more out there. they've detected at least 13. my understanding is another five have very recently been detected as well. we've been hearing explosions, frankly, that sound like they've been collapsing a number of these tunnels. there's still an extraordinary threat. because what the idf is describing is essentially a city, an underground city, where you have these massive tunnels and then branching out into numerous areas. i went to kibutz near om today where the infiltration occurred literally meters away from the perimeter fence. it is a significant threat. they say they're uncovering a lot of these tunnels but the fact is we don't know how many exactly there are out there and

these tunnels have been used very effectively to pop up behind israeli lines and ambush israeli troops and this is where a lot of the casualties on the israeli side are coming from. >> just be careful over there, don't go too close to that border. those tunnels are potentially very, very deadly. atika shubert. be careful. she's on the front lines for us, between israel and gaza. another major story we're following right now. we'll have more on israel and gaza later. we're also following the downing of that itmalaysian jet liner i eastern ukraine. a scene many are still describing as chaotic. that team has begun conducting dna tests to help identify victims. the pro-russian rebels in ukraine who control that area claim they're giving international monitors free access to the crash site. they also have released the refrigerated train cars holding some 200 bodies and will allow them to travel to a central part

of ukraine. but now new fighting has broken out in the nearby donetsk area and many rebels have left the crash site to join in those battles. secretary of state of the united states john kerry says there's no shortage of evidence showing the crash is the work of pro russian rebels. and he's calling for what he says is a moment of truth for russia. president obama also spoke on the situation in ukraine a little while ago on the south lawn of the white house. building on what secretary kerry said, the president called out the rebels and how they've handled this crash site. >> russianbacked separatists who control the area continue to block the investigation. they've repeatedly prevented international investigators from gaining full access to the wreckage. as investigators approached, they fired their weapons into the area. these separatists are removing evidence from the crash site. all of which begs the question, what exactly are they trying to

hide? >> let's go to our phil black. he's now in donetsk where the new fighting has broken out. what happened in the last hour or two? what have you seen? clearly, it's escalating. >> yeah, there has been some renewed violence on outskirts of the regional capital here of this territory held by these pro-russian separatists. that is significant because it is the gateway to any sort of increased effort to get in there and get the resources and people necessary to investigate that crash site. which is only about an hour from where i'm standing. i think the key development today is the one you touched on. the fact that the separatist rebels here have agreed to allow the bodies they have collected to be transported from here. they're being kept in refrigerated rail cars. they have now left and are heading north to the northeast city of kharkiv. a region of ukraine close to the russian border. but it has not been caught up in this separatist and pro-russian

movement that has so destabilized the southern region of the country. from there, they're going to be loaded on to a dutch aircraft, flown back to the netherlands, and that is where that process, that important delicate process, of identifying these bodies, will take place. it's where they will be processed. dna samples taken and compared. it is from there they will be flown back to the various countries of origin around the world to be reunited with their families. another key development announced by the malaysian prime minister who says his country has been in close negotiations with the separatist forces who control this territory and of course control that crash site. he says the deal has been reached for the black box, those very important voice and data recorders from the cockpit of mh-17, to be handed over to malaysian officials and from there they will be taken somewhere else to be analyzed. an evening of significant

progress. that train with some 200 bodies almost heading north to a city beyond the control of the separatists and in a few hours time, we expect that handover of the black box to take place as well. wolf. >> phil black. what worries me is that whole area, especially around where you are in donetsk, but also where that crash site is, there are a lot of armed men all over the place. the violence escalating. i'm worried about those international teams coming in, including a lot of international journalists, including our own journalists on the scene. i hope everyone, everyone, is safe. phil, you're doing an excellent job for all of us. for our viewers in the united states and around the world. be careful other there as well. still ahead, much more news. president obama demands that the russian president putin use his influence with the pro-russian rebels in ukraine to let in plane crash investigators. we're going to talk about that with the republican congressman ed rice. he's chairman of the horse foreign affairs committee. secretary of state kerry is now

racing here to the middle east to try to stop the kilting in gaza and israel. democratic congressman adam shift of the house intelligence admity, he's standing by as well.

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visit tripadvisor new york with millions of reviews, tripadvisor makes any destination better. 500 people have died in gaza and israel. 27 israeli soldiers and civilians are now confirmed dead. thousands of people have been wounded in this latest round of fighting between hamas and israel. the vast majority of the casualties have been palestinians. secretary state john kerry has now gone to egypt, should be arriving very soon, with the goal of trying to broker an immediate cease-fire.

congressman, thanks very much for joining us. so you're privy to a lot of information we're not necessarily privy to. is that really realistic in the next few days, a workable cease-fire can be in place? >> well, it's certainly possible. i wish the secretary luck on his trip. it's going to be tough. egypt, which has traditionally brokered a cease-fire in a situation like this, a fight with hamas, doesn't have the leverage it used to, since it's been fighting the muslim brotherhood in egypt and hamas is part of the muslim brotherhood. but other nation, qatar, turkey, may have more influence. if the secretary can get those regional allies to pressure hamas into accepting a cease-fire, that's the only way i can see this ending. as long as those rockets are coming, israel's going to defend itself. as long as those tunnels are open and people are trying to infiltrate, israel is going to do what it needs to protect its citizens. >> the president, once again, repeated today, he said it the other day as well, president

obama, he said he would like to see a cease-fire, the cease-fire that occurred the last time israel and hamas fought at the end of 2012, november 2012, he'd like to see that recreated. that would mean an immediate israeli withdrawal of all of its forces and thousands of israeli troops are now inside gaza, dealing with these tunnels, these rocket launchers. that would mean an immediate israeli withdrawal. some israelis said they want to doway with all these tunnels first, then they might be ready to withdraw. how much of a problem, if they haven't completed the destruction of the tunnels that go from gaza into israel? >> it's going to add to the challenge of bringing about a cease-fire. but as you saw, wolf, israel was willing to accept a cease-fire earlier. i think they'd still like to have a cease-fire. it may not be possible, frankly, to stay until all the tunnels are destroyed because it takes time to even find the tunnels. many of them have multiple entrances and exits. and of course the casualties on

the israeli side are also mounting. i think a cease-fire is possible. i think israel would like a cease-fire. whether the timing is right yet for a cease-fire to be accomplished, i don't know. i certainly think it was worthwhile for the president to dispatch our secretary of state to see if he can help bring that about. >> i don't know if you know anything about this, but our colleague, our cnn contributor, josh rogan of the daily beast is reporting that u.n. officials in gaza, the united nations relief work agency that deals with palestinian refugees. they found some rockets inside a u.n. school. instead of destroying them, they handed them over to a police force established by hamas. have you heard anything along those lines? >> i haven't heard about the handing over of these rockets back to hamas, but i have certainly seen many reports that hamas has hidden these rockets in u.n. facilities, in schools,

near hospitals, using basically humid shields. and, you know, some people say, well, gaza is small, and they're going to be civilians around wherever hamas operates. that may be true, but hamas has fully aggravated the situation by using these sites to hide its munitions, to hide some of its militants, and that is, in part, responsible for this heavy civilian casualty count. >> do you see any possibility that the palestinian authority leadership of president mahmoud abbas who basically secured the west bank, he's cooperated militarily with israel, he's now involved in trying to get a cease-fire that the p.a., the palestinian authority, could effectively take charge not only of the west bank, of gaza, and push hamas aside, is that at all realistic, congressman? >> i don't think it's probably realistic during this fight. unless the fight became very, very prolonged. it's certainly possible when this fight is other. i think the people in gaza are

very unhappy with hamas. hamas has very few friends left in the world. the conditions in gaza are deteriorating. i think many residents in gaza hold hamas responsible for that, as they should. so i think that abbas' position should be improved. sometime there's this perverse effect in the region where hamas gains in stature just by fighting with israel. in the near term, i don't see that happening. but hopefully in the midterm, we can see a unified government under fatah leadership in both territory, and a resumption of some peace negotiations. >> and hopefully in the end what they call a two-state solution, israel and palestine leaving peacefully side by side. it seems like a dream right now but maybe they can get back to that work down the road. congressman, thanks for joining us. >> thanks, wolf. coming up, the israeli prime

minister benjamin netanyahu, he's defending his country's military operation, in the conflict with hamas in gaza. we'll have details. also, growing pressure on the russian president, vladimir putin, to help the international community investigate the crash of mh-17 in ukraine. republican congressman ed royce, he's chairman of the house foreign affairs committee, he's standing by to join us with his take. jennifer ] do you really have time for brown spots? [ female announcer ] aveeno® introduces new positively radiant targeted tone corrector. it helps reduce the look of stubborn brown spots in just two weeks. what are you waiting for? aveeno®. naturally beautiful results™. aveeno®. so factors like diet can negatively impact good bacteria? even if you're healthy and active. phillips digestive health support is a duo-probiotic that helps supplement good bacteria found in two parts of your digestive tract. i'm doubly impressed! phillips' digestive health. a daily probiotic.

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pro-russian rebels at the crash site. >> given its direct influence over the separatists, russia and president putin in particular, has direct responsibility to compel them to cooperate with the investigation. that is the least that they can do. >> republican congressman ed royce of california is the chairman of the house foreign affairs admit s committee. thanks for joining us. what's your reaction to president's remarks today? are they tough enough for you? do you think they'll have the impact to make putin listen? >> well, i think we have a different international audience and maybe we have the international will now, so yes, i think the president needs to lead with strong words here. the europeans are beginning to hear the stories, which i heard from a u.s. official today, about what's actually happening at that site. and as you know, credit cards have been taken. off of individuals, wedding rings. those credit cards, there's been

attempts to use them. part of the problem of recruiting in russia and in ukraine on these social media, which is what the russians have been doing, is they are actually recruiting either malcontent and every skin head that has a beef, and as you can imagine, these are poorly led troops. the four senior commanders are all russian citizens. they're not eastern ukrainians. but they don't have very good control over these troops. >> do you have a good sense, congressman, how much russian military involvement there was, assuming these pro-russian separatists did fire that surface to air missile, how much russian military help they received? >> yes, we know from general breedlove, the commander of nato forces, that a month ago they took ethnic eastern russian-speaking ukrainians into russia for training on how to fire these particular devices,

these anti-aircraft weapons. we know subsequently from general breedlove that they brought about 150 heavy tanks and anti-aircraft pieces like this particular one across the border. and for the use by the separatists in order to try to check the advance, which was going pretty well on the part of the ukrainian forces. although they've used these in about 12 instances to shoot down the aircraft in the region, unfortunately, they were not well trained. took credit for it temporarily. then tried to retract it off their social website. but this is a great tragedy. and it's putting enormous pressure on russia. because public opinion in europe, in central asia, in east asia, worldwide, is now galvanizing to get the russians to back off. >> why won't the russians -- why won't putin acknowledge, you

know what, we made a major, major mistake? what would be wrong if he were to do that? >> they're doubling down and they're trying to cleanse the crime scene. and that is why you can't -- you weren't able to get access. for two days, they held up the bodies on the train, refrigerator train. what they're doing apparently is picking up pieces of metal and trying to remove any evidence. but that evidence is now pretty well established anyway. and it's very unfortunate that they're digging a deeper hole. i guess my hope is with this coming up in the security council this afternoon, there will be some type of major consensus, that russia will not block, that will allow the international community to move in unison. because what is happening on the ground is only further exacerbating the anger over the treatment of these bodies, and this -- this right now i think

has put a situation in play where putin would be wiser to cease moving heavy equipment and tanks into eastern ukraine, and allow this situation to be resolved. >> yeah, that situation is awful right now and fighting intensifying. mr. chairman, thanks very much for joining us. always good to get your perspective. ed royce is the chairman of thes how foreign affairs committee. coming up, we've got much more news. two major stories we're following. ways goi what's going on in ukraine with the airliner. also here in the middle east. the prime minister netanyahu answering his critics who say he's overreacting in response to the attacks by hamas. you'll hear what the prime minister says. plus, how the u.s. is now handling the situation in israel and russia. many say the president is not doing enough. our senior political analyst ron brownstein is here, he'll weigh in.

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these refugees, thousands of them fleeing their homes. it's a horrendous sight. heart wrenching. what goes through your mind when you see that? >> i'm very sad. when i see that, we're very sad. we're sad for every civilian casualty. they're not intended. this is the difference between us. the hamas deliberately targets civilians and deliberately hides behind civilians. they embed their rocketeers, their rocket caches, their other weaponry, which they use to fire on us in civilian areas. what choice do we have? we have to protect ourselves. we try to target the rocketeers. we do. and all civilian casualties are actually unintended by us but intended by hamas. they want as many civilian dead as they can. somebody said -- it's gruesome. they use tell jenically dead palestinians for their cause. they want the more dead, the better. >> the arguments the critics

make is you're overreaccount anning now, overkill. >> well, look, i want to say this. there are very few examples in history of countries that have been rocketed on this scale. if you look at our response, it's actually very measured, trying to be as pinpointed as we can. i think when people say that -- i appreciate the support we've received from president obama and many world leaders for israel's right to self-defense. others are saying, yeah, you have the right of self-drvegs as long as you don't exercise it. what can a country do? what would you do? what would the people of the united states do if your cities were rocketing now, 2,000 rockets falling in american cities? people would say in the united states, as r obliterate the people. you don't obliterate them. we don't have any battle with the palestinians in gaza. >> it is brutal there now. >> it's very difficult. because hamas is using them, palestinians, as human shields. we developed anti-missile

systems to protect -- we use anti-missile systems to protect our civilians. they use their civilians to protect missiles. that's the difference. such a cynical brutal heartless enemy. we try to minimize civilian casualties. we try to target the military targets. unfortunately, there are civilian casualty, which we regret and we don't seek. they all fall on the responsibility of hamas. >> the president, president obama, he urged all of the parties to return to the cease-fire that was reached in november 2012. are you accepting his proposal, go back to that cease-fire? >> i already did. i already did. >> if hamas were to say to you right now, we accept the cease-fire, with israel withdraw its forces from gaza? >> that was the egyptian proposal which we accepted and he refused. >> if they accepted now, is it too late? >> i don't want to speak of it being too late. the first thing is a cessation of hostilities -- >> but if israel -- >> first, we have to deal with

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because this is the first trial that involves the boston bombing investigation. we have two guilty counts of conspiracy and obstruction of justice in the accusations involved by the state, by the government, against a friend of dzhokhar, the accused bomb, dzhokhar tsarnaev. now, this young man is a student, a native of kazakhstan. he was a student at the university of massachusetts at dartmouth. the government accused him of after the bombing, after exchanging text messages with accused bomber dzhokhar tsarnaev, going to dzhokhar's dorm room and removing a backpack and a laptop. the government later found the backpack in a landfill and found the laptop, which had been preserbed by one of the friends there. he was found not guilty, however, of removing the laptop from the dorm room. so it appears to be in some ways a split verdict.

regardless, he will be -- he will be sentenced in october. and of course, this might provide an avenue of appeal for him. but very important in that this is, again, the first verdict involved in that massive investigation into the boston marathon bombing. he was never accused of being involved in the planning of the bombing, only in what happened afterwards. wolf. >> do we have any idea if -- how many years in prison he might have to serve what kind of a sentence he might get? >> quite a long time. up to 25 years in prison. he's been in jail the entire time, being held not only without bail on this charge but also on immigration charges as well. so, for now, he remains in jail, awaiting sentencing. >> susan candiotti with that story, thank you very much. other news we're following, as you know, the world looks to the united states to be a leader in foreign policy. many of the president's critic, though, president's critics, say his policies are reactive rather than pro active. let's bring in our senior

political analyst ron brownstein of "the national journal." the president spoke earlier today. he touched upon the situation in the middle east. he touched upon the situation in ukraine as well. let me play a little clip of what the president said. >> if russia continues to violate ukraine's sovereignty and back these separatists and these separatists become more and more dangerous and now are risks not simply to the people inside of ukraine but the broader international community, then russia will only further isolate itself from the international community and the costs for russia's behavior will only continue to increase. >> so, how does that strike you, the tone, the passion, the content, of what he's saying? >> well, you know, it's interesting, it's a very characteristic statement. if you look at the president's remarks on foreign policy, increasingly, over the past year the west point speech, a lot of reliance on the international norms and participation in the international system as a way of

governing behavior of states. i think the challenge he phases is a hardening conclusion of the events are controlling him, rather than the other way around, that he's being too passive, too reactive, too much restraint. the public is also unhappy with the results we're seeing in the world. the big difference of course is the public polling is also very reluctant to see our involvement escalate in these confrontations. that's the ironic legacy of the afghanistan and iraq and very expansive foreign policy vision of george w. bush. >> i remember a few years ago, i was on that trip. one of our cnn contributors, he wrote a piece in "the new yorker" magazine, "leading from behind." this has been the president and the secretary of state hillary clinton's strategy, if you will. that really has stuck, it's hurt the president, hasn't it? >> look, i think in many ways, the obama foreign policy is the

reaction to the perceived failures to the bush foreign policy. bush was seen in some ways as exaggerated ways. being a focus of unilateral and military action. the president came in and said he's going to rely more on multilater multilateral, more on diplomacy, more on kind of incentives, again, through involvement in the international system. i think the real fascinating situation we find ourselves in is clearly by the end of the bush presidency, most americans concluded that hard-line work. now as we head towards the final years of the obama presidency, you see a increasing sense that this more restrained approach isn't working. it really begs the question of what comes next. the 2016 candidates will be running in an environment where the foreign policy of each of the two previous presidents will have seen to have produced inadequate results. >> ron brownstein, our political analyst, ron, thanks very, very much. coming up, the downing of malaysian flight 17 could have happened to any aircraft.

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malaysia airlines flight 17 was most likely shot down by a buk missile launcher. this raises the question, can commercial airlines be protected from missile attacks. brian todd is joining us from washington right now. brian, we know air force one is protected by electronic jammers from most of these kinds of missiles. can the same be done for commercial flights with a lot of passengers on board? >> reporter: wolf, it is possible this could be done. there is a variation used on l-al, the israeli airline. many experts we've spoken to say the type of counter measure needed to fend off that kind of missile that downed the malaysia airlines plane last week would be difficult to put on commercial planes. l-al wolf, as you recall, had an attack on a commercial plane after it took off from kenya in 2002. that was a shoulder-fired missile and barely missed that plane. now l-al has laser based counter measures. a laser fired from a tour let moves toward the missile and deflects it away. those are measures to counter

simpler shoulder-fired missiles. to fend off the sophisticated radar-guided missiles like the one apparently filed at the malaysia airlines jet, one possible counter measure, we have animation to show here. according to experts in varies reports, says this could be fired from the commercial plane in a canister. that canister would burst open and send out what's called chaff, like confetti, strips of aluminum that are radar reflective and that shower of metal you see it there, that could confuse the radar or the missile and send it in another direction. but wolf, former fighter pilots he will us it would only confuse the missile for a few seconds and then the pilot would have to pull abrupt maneuvers to get away, so not really practical in a commercial airline. >> i'm told by some israeli experts here over the past few days, they are coming up with some new technology right now. they think they're going to get it ready in the next year or two, and it might be available for commercial airlines. we'll see if they can.

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to peace to the middle east. anna coren spoke exclusively with former president bill clinton this weekend and asks how the current escalation in violence can be stopped. >> reporter: israel launched a ground offensive in gaza. and you said that israel is isolating itself from world opinion. by failing to clinch a peace deal with the palestinians. this is a conflict that you weren't able to resolve when you were in office. what makes you think that it's possible now? >> well, i think it's possible partly because at some point you get tired of doing the same thing over and over again and getting the same results. it's crazy. but i think that -- and i hope that this will lead to everybody doing a little soul searching and trying to get back to the baseline issue of a peace agreement now, with hamas involved, it raises a different

issue, which is that there is no way the israelis are going to give up the west bank and agree to a state unless hamas agrees to give up violence and recognizes its right to exist. they won't do it. and that's sort of a nonstarter. and i think it should be. that is, i think you can't just have a one-way peace. you've got to have both sides that have got to give up what the other side mostly objects to. >> reporter: do you see that happening any time soon? >> i don't see it, but i feel that it could happen. i know that prime minister netanyahu could make a peace that a majority of the israelis would support. they have said over and over again, if he says that this is good for their security, they would support it. >> for more of anna's interview with former president bill clinton, go to cnn.com. we'll have more later in "the

situation room." that's it for me. thanks very much for watching. i'll be back, 5:00 p.m. eastern, a special two-hour edition of "the situation room." for our international viewers, amanpour is next. for our viewers in the united states and north america, "newsroom" with brooke baldwin starts right now. wolf blitzer, thank you so much. hi, i'm brooke baldwin. thank you for beginning your week with us here on cnn. you are watching cnn's special live coverage of the downing of mh-17 in eastern ukraine. the u.s. believes is now investigating whether russian personnel may have been the ones to pull the trigger. president barack obama speaking from the white house and make no mistake, he believes russia is absolutely complicit in the deaths of the 298 people on board that plane. >>