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♪ good morning and a very early hour. 5:00 a.m. here in the east. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. this is a special early edition of "new day saturday." breaking overnight, the guns, warplanes and rockets over gaza and israel have gone silent for the first time really in days. >> that's because we're in the middle of a 12-hour cease-fire right now. this is what it were to look like just before it took effect. explosions hitting gaza. the truce began four hours ago, and there is hope this morning, we hear, that this is going to
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extend. >> a top palestinian parliament member and chief negotiator said that the militant group hamas is willing to sign to a seven-day ruse that's been pushed by america's top diplomat secretary of state john kerry. over 900 people now, most of them palestinian civilians have been killed in the weeks of bloodshed. >> secretary of state john kerry by the way is leading this flowmatic push as victor just mentioned to get hamas to agree to a longer one-week cease-fire. atika shubert joins us there on in gaza. atika, we're now four hours into this. has the cease-fire held, have you heard any air strikes there? >> reporter: so far, the cease-fire seems to be holding. we haven't heard any rockets coming over since the cease-fire. and we haven't haven't heard any
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being fired from gaza. so far so good. having said that, just before the cease-fire, we did hear several rockets being fired and there were a number of explosions inside of gaza as well. so we have a while to go with a 12-hour cease-fire that we're hoping to get through here. then possibly, they could have more discussions on a longer week-long truce. for now, we're sort of in a wait and see mode and see what happens. >> i know you said you're in a wait and see mode. from your estimation of being there, how likely is it that both sides may agree to a one-week cease-fire? >> reporter: well, it's possible, but i think what's happening there's quite a few sticking points and the main sticking points on the israeli side is the tunnels. they say they've been trying to dismantle the tunnels that hamas has built to infiltrate into israel to conduct the attacks. so they want the opportunity within that one-week truce to dismantle the tunnels. in the meantime, hamas and gaza
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said they need to have access, by that opening the borders to allow more humanitarian in and out. it's really not much coming in and out. so those are two sticking points that they're going to have to figure out how to move towards that week-long truce. but again that's been proving in the next eight hours to hold. >> atika, with the death toll numbers now above 900, can you give us an idea of how the hospitals are responding and just how strapped that area is for resources, for the civilians? >> reporter: look, in gaza -- they're incredibly short of everything. every kind of medicine. every kind of aid you can imagine, as it is, even without a conflict going on. it's being described as an open air prison because very little comes out. and hardly anything gets in.
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in a conflict situation like this, it really is sealed off. and the hospitals are strained to capacity. not only because they're getting so many injured. i mean, we're talking hundreds and hundreds of people injured. and then dealing with these more than 900 people killed. but they're also dealing with the fact that the hospitals have effectively become shelters for people that are trying to escape the fighting and find a way to be safe. at hospitals, they hope are one of the places they can be. but as well we know, hospitals have also been hit. so we're talking about hospitals trying to be everything to everyone and still becoming targets in the conflict. >> all right, atika shubert reporting there from the israeli side of the border with gaza. atika, be safe and thank you very much. it's now been more than a week since that crash in ukraine. and victims are still lying
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under the wreckage of malaysia airlines flight 17. the crash site in eastern ukraine is far from secure. and a proper investigation has not begun yet. but now rebels who control the area, apparently, they've had just about enough. zmrt international monitor said pro-russian rebels are pressing them to get them to leave the scene soon and suggest they go may only have another week's worth of patience for the tedious process to wrap up. now, these are the sim rebels, remember, that the u.s. accuses shooting the airliners out of the ska nine days ago. >> still, dutch and australian officials are trying to negotiate access to that crash zone. meantime, victims' relatives are keeping vigil again today. as another 38 coffins due to arrive at a military base in the netherlands. >> you know, for one family, you can imagine this the wait for their lost daughter and answers to what happened to flight 17 is almost undarable. >> so mom and dad, they took matters into their own hands
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rushing to the other side of the world to find their child. kyung lah has their story. >> reporter: george and angela, they can almost feel their daughter, they're that close, but they can't get there. >> please, please. >> reporter: these men are local ukrainian officials urging these parents to not enter the pro-russian rebel-held territory of donetsk. they flew by themselves to ukraine from australia with nothing other than shock and grief. >> there are battling around us. >> we know. we have to go, there's no other way. >> reporter: their 25-year-old daughter fatima was aboard the flight flying australia to see them. >> yeah, we go. >> reporter: with an outrageous disregard of the crash scene from the very beginning and only black bags and unmarked coffins
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coming out they have chosen to grieve with denial. >> we believe she's alive. every second counts. >> and our purpose is to find fatima. >> we don't want us to be angry. >> i need to see that we are set, so that's why we can. besides our daughter promised we will find her, as mom and dad. so this is mom and dad. >> reporter: they poured their lives into their only child. she was an aerospace engineer who dreamed of being an astronaut. she believed space exploration to help bring stability to earth. >> experience of spaceflight is a life-changing event. >> reporter: how can you let a child like that go? >> there is an urgency because my -- my belief that she is alive cannot be sustained if this takes 30 days. >> reporter: frustrationing mounting as the minutes tick by.
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>> we come back. >> reporter: an these government reps get embassies on the phone to talk to them. >> you have not sorted this out. please do not contact me anymore. >> and we are out of time. >> so the risk we know, no worries. >> reporter: finally, they're told to go at their own risk. this private car promises to drive them through the battle lines of rebel-held territory where a parent's love has no bounda boundaries. >> kyung lah joining us now from the ukrainian capital of kiev. boy, you just feel with all of these people, that really brings it home. but we're wondering what happened after they got past that check point kyeong? >> we know it's a long drive to the rebel-held territory. it's precarious. it's three hours to get to it that border. then you step into that border.
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if you make it past the checkpoints, you're talking about mortgagers falling. there is gunfire. the couple made it to donetsk. that's what we understand. whether or not they've been able to get to the plane crash site. we don't know. their intention, though, kristi was to try to make it there this morning ukraine time. >> you know i was going to start by saying any parent would understand. but i think any child, any brother, sister, husband or wife would under this couple's flight to find their loved one. do we know, or do you know if there are more people who are planning to make this journalmi to get to that crash site, or as close as possible? >> well, if you speak to investigators they are preparing for it. but here is what they are telling us, international observers who are at the site tell us, stay away. this is a war that is happening between these people. and what they don't want is to put anyone there on the ground
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at risk. it's already difficult enough for the official governments, for the military people to get through and try to contain this. remember, there has been no control over this crash site. to then have civilians come in, it just makes it even more dangerous for everyone. so they are urging families, no matter how difficult and gut-wrenching it may be, to not be able to go there for your own safety. for the safety of others, stay away. >> alrighty. kyung lah in kiev. to another frightening stories on an international flight considering all that's happened over the last week, week and a half. this began on an angry threat on a plane headed to panama from toronto. a witness said a 25-year-old citizen said he wanted to bomb canada. >> that, of course, forced the plane that was packed with 189 people to turn back, escorted byis fighter jets. you can imagine being in that
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plane? and then you get to the tarmac and there was chaos and fear as it was described as a s.w.a.t. team stormed the flight. this was all captured on cell phone video, as you watch this, keep in mind, this was not a drill. >> heads up. >> heads up. hands up. heads down. >> end whats up. >> heads down, hands up. show me your hands. heads down. heads down. >> heads down. heads down. heads down. heads down. >> wow. >> yeah, imagine being on that flight. this is the young man, 25-year-old ali shahi is due in court for a bail hearing. his demeanor was completely changed after in handcuffs saying he was sorry and he loved
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canada. well, the plane was searched nothing was found. shahi faces charges including endangering the safety of an aircraft. how safe are we when we board those planes? >> and we talked about two aviation incidents thus far. but there's also the wreckage the the algerie plain that plane that went down. it's been described as disintegrated.
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well, asia airlines flight 17 blown out of the sky nine days ago over a war zone killing 298 people. and this week, we've got an algerie jet crashing in stormy weather in africa. 126 people dead. it's been a frightening week. >> and look at this dramatic cell phone video we showed you of a s.w.a.t. team storming a plane in toronto after an
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alleged bomb threat. thankfully, no one was hurt. you've got to ask, is this a dangerous era for aviation. let's bring in aviation safety consultant chris yates and cnn law enforcement analyst tom fuentes. good to have both of you. let's look back over the first few months of the year. 2014 is shaping up to be the deadliest year in almost a decade in airline travel. does this signal a security problem? let's start with -- let's start with you, chris. >> it signals a particular problem in so much as various of the airch yags incidents that have happened have just caused a heck a degree of consternation in the public i would suppose. and the fact of the matter is that last year, something like 5 billion people traveling on 34
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million flights, and only a small percentage of them, of course, have any degree of an issue. >> so, tom, i want to go to you because i know that people are watching this. and we've also had this brief ban on u.s. flights to tel aviv because of the exchange of missile strikes with gaza, obviously. but if somebody is getting ready to board a flight, particularly an international flight, what would you say to them about any, you know, fears or concerns that they might have? >> christi and victor good morning. i think i wouldn't say much to them, other than we all hope that the authorities around the world are monitoring it and that the airlines are getting information about whether or not to fly a particular route, whether it might be weather-related or whether it might be, you know, flying over a war zone, particularly in a place where people have the kind of weaponry that we see in the eastern ukraine area to bring a
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plane down at 33,000 feet altitude. so i think you hope, and i fly, you know, thousands of miles internationally every year myself. i hope when i board that that's the case. that you're going to be secure. >> tom, is there anyplace right now that you would not travel? >> no, i don't think so. i wouldn't stake an excursion over eastern ukraine as we just mentioned but i think for the most part, there's not too many places that i would have a particular worry. and to be honest, i'd be more worried about the surface-to-air shoulder-held missiles that could take a plane down taking off or landing up to 14,000 or 15,000 feet altitude. a person could sit out in the perimeter of any airport. and that could happen anywhere in the world anytime. i'm surprised hasn't happened more. it may in the future. >> before the downing of mh-17 that was the primary concern. no one was considering these boot missiles would take down a
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plane. let me go back to to you, new york congressman has reinstituted a plan to install anti-missile equipment on planes. is that what the airlines would go for and is it feasible? it it sounds expensive? >> well, it does sound expensive, and it seems like it's not going to be, if you'd pardon the pun, an option that would actually fly. the fact of the matter is we need to be diverting routes when a particular incident happens on the ground. so, we need to be choosing our routes carefully. we need the intelligence being fed in directly. to the international authorities. the aviation bodies responsible for approving flight plans. and only when it's clear to
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flight over a particular area, should we be allowing civil aviation aircraft to fly those routes. >> chris yates and tom fuentes, gentlemen, thank you so much for the input. we appreciate it this morning. listen i want to show you some pictures we're just getting in as we are just getting word that there is a possible news conference, we hear shortly, from secretary of state john kerry. he will be speaking from paris. and you can see the live pictures there as we await that happening. we will bring that to you as soon as it comes. stay close.
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all right. live pictures here in paris of we're waiting some comments from secretary of state john kerry who is practicing this, as it's known, shuttle diplomacy, where he's flying between jerusalem and cairo now in paris, to try to broker some cease-fire between hamas and israel. as this conflict now goes on for weeks. we know more than 900 dead, the civilian count from gaza. dozens dead there in israel. so we'll continue to watch this, as soon as he begins to deliver those remarks, we'll bring it to you live. you know, the french families of those on board the crashed air algerie flight are
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hoping to get some answers today from their government. >> 116 people were killed when the plane crashed thursday in mali. 54 of them were from france. and what you're seeing here are some of the new images we're getting from that crash site. boy, if you can spot parts of that plane broken apart, there they are. that's about the biggest they are. people there saying they're burned nearly beyond recognition. french president francois hollande described it as disintegrated pointing us from the mali. katerina, thank you for being with us. what do you know about this hour, about the investigation, as to what brought that plane down? >> reporter: well, we know coming from the first investigators arriving at the scene last night, and we have more people coming from france today. the plane went down in a troubled area. which is why it took so long for
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the people to reach the actual site. what we know so far and the people working on it that the plane hit some bad weather. the piement changed the route because of the storm over gul, and we have had bad weather here with heavy rains with the plane landing. months ago french national forces drove them out of this area and there have been speculation about a terrorist attack. but what we know so far is that the people working on it that that plane came down in a heavy storm. >> katerina, there have been discrepancies on the number of people on board. and number of citizens who perished from each country. what do we know about the number of people and the discrepancies? why is this happening? >> well, the last numbers, there
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were 110 passengers, almost half of them french and six crew members. they were flying from burkina faso, many of them were humanitarian workers in the region. a lot of them had connecting flights from here back to paris. as far as we know, there are no suspects on the ground and no people that would have made this into a terrorist attack or that the plane could have been attacked because of people on the passenger list. >> all right. katerina hoije, we appreciate the update. thank you. we've got more on the breaking story on the cease-fire in gaza now, about 4 1/2 hours live to jerusalem for the new developments there. ganncr: we took care of your back pain. you make him the mvp. tylenol is clinically proven to provide strong,
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secretary of state john kerry to speak there in trying to broker a cease-fire. >> yeah. what kind of progress they may have made so far. we know that a 12-hour cease-fire between hamas and israel is now in hour number four. just before it took effect, smoke was blowing over gaza until the fighting continued. but so far, it's been quiet. >> the death toll has risen to 900. most are palestinians and civilians. >> and while the tanks and rockets and warplanes are silent at the moment, we talk about secretary of state john kerry being in paris trying to broker this longer lasting truce. as soon as he steps up to the mike we'll bring that to you live. >> cnn's john vause joins us now from jerusalem. john, does it look like that this will, i guess, be transitioned into a seven-day cease-fire? >> reporter: well, look, the
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problem for the israeli players if you like, are the tunnels. and any longer cease-fire, longer than 12 hours does not include a provision for the israeli military to continue to work and destroy and find that tunnel network which hamas has dug under gaza city. i think it's pretty much going to be a nonstarter. if you look at the cease-fire in place. the air strikes have stopped. the shells has stopped. the navy has backed off from the coast but the soldiers are still on the ground and they're still there searching and destroying those tunnels. the bottom line, as far as the israelis are concerned you can build a war to stop the suicide bombers, the iron dome, it's a defense system to destroy the rockets but you've got to have soldiers on the ground and israelis say they're kind of halfway through that and they want to finish the job. >> of course, the israeli cabinet proposed that seven-day truce. we're waiting to hear from
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secretary of state kerry, but he said the door is still open for a deal. do you know what is prompting that statement? >> reporter: well, john kerry is living in hope. he's continuing to talk to these sides. this is a dire situation. they're looking for a solution of this. you've got 900 of them dead. most civilian, many children. almost 600 people wounded in gaza. eye were a health system that can't cope with it. so they need to find some compromise here. the problem you have, john kerry spent countless days, he shuttled between countries. he invested his own time. he's now in paris but so far the only thing he has to show for it is a 12-hour lull in the fighting. that just shows you how difficult it is to get the two sides from fighting. >> we see some of the dignitaries walking in as we await secretary of state john kerry on the efforts to broker the seven-day cease-fire, as we await those comments let's stay
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with you, john. do we know how committed hamas is to the cease-fire. we know the claims have been any cease-fire for humanitarian reasons or any reasons thus far, hamas has brokered that deal by sending rongts over the border? >> well, look, at the moment, actions speak louder than words. in gaza there have been no hamas rockets for 4 1/2 hours now. so they are committed at least now for this humanitarian cease-fire. as far as the longer-term one, we're talking seven days here, it's not exactly a long time, is it? but as far as the cease-fire, what we're hearing over and over again, is that hamas needs to walk away with something to show. they need to show the palestinian people, that the 9 dead palestinians the thousands of homes damaged and destroyed that it was worth it. and the bottom line on that, they need some kind of concessions that will have their borders reopened.
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not just the israelis reluctant to reopen those borders. the egyptians as well. there's a border between egypt and it's known as the rafah crossing. they don't want to reopen it. you've al sisi here through the muslim brotherhood. and as far as al sisi is concerned, hamas is just a palestinian version of the muslim brotherhood. so they're reluctant as well to open those border crossings. so this is the problem for hamas that they're facing. and as far as the israelis are concerned, they don't want to give anything to hamas to say they've had a victory here. there's a visceral reluctance. again, it's a very difficult position for john kerry to find some kind of compromise. >> john vause, thank you for breaking it down for us.
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♪ more than a week after malaysia airlines flight 17 was shot down, the crash site in ukraine is, let's say, far from secure. >> yeah, national monitors say pro-russian rebels accused of downing the plane, they just appear to be fed up with the probe. and have suggested they may only have another week's worth of patience. now investigators we know are also continuing to phase pushback around the rebel-controlled site. >> this morning, dutch and australian officials are pressing for more access. so a proper investigation, obviously, can begin. >> let's talk about the victims, though, because that's what's at the heart of this tragedy. another 38 coffins are expected to arrive at a military base in the netherlands today. >> the question is, will investigators be able to secure that crash site despite days of pushback. joining us is alastair rosenschein. >> and we as have the spokesman
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for the organization for security and cooperation in europe which is helping to monitor the crash scene. good to have both of you. i want to start with you, michael. the idea that the patience is running thin with the rebels. do you feel that there is a physical threat to the osce workers who are there? do we have michael? okay. alistair -- do we have alistair -- >> yes. >> okay. good. my question for you is, there were reports this week that parts of these planes have been sawed off. it appears they've taken a diesel saw to cut some of this off. if we know about the bud missile system, what could they be cutting away here? >> well, that's not good news,
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if that's what's been happening. you know, are we talking about souvenir hunters? or are we talking about people trying to cover up evidence of what happened to this aircraft? clearly, that will compromise the investigation. there are reporters have had access to the site and will have taken photographs. and certainly, i've seen a photograph of the left-hand side of the cockpit skinned from the outside. and in those photos you can fairly clear that there's been an external explosion that has peppered the cockpit with shrapnel. >> so, alistair, i read that experts are analyzing that flight data recorder. but i'm wondering, considering belief that the rentals have tampered with so much evidence there, even if there's nothing on those data flight recorders, if they don't tell us anything, then where do you go? >> well, i think is highly unlikely that all traces of this
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accident, i mean, if it was an external missile explosion, we're talking about sam-11 or a buk missile, it is highly unlikely that they will be unable to cover up all of the evidence. and in addition to that, the bodies themselves, sadly, i will have to say, will also carry evidence what has happened to this aircraft. so it is -- you know, unlikely that the investigators will be thwarted in their attempts to find the cause of this accident. but, you know, it's very important that as much evidence as possible is collected. and the aircraft and its parts are reconstructed somewhere outside of this war zone. >> i'm told we have the spokesman for the organization of the spirit of cooperation, michael is back with us. michael, at the top, we talked about the report that the
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pro-russian rebels said they're almost fed up here, maybe a week's worth of patience. do you believe there is a physical threat against the osce workers there at the site? i hear something, but you can hear me, michael? >> yes, i can hear you. >> okay. one more time do you believe there's a physical threat against the osce workers there after this report that the rebels are running out of patience? >> absolutely not. we've had very, very good access for the past seven days. the first day was a bit tricky. with the amount of time spent is there in terms of geography, we've been able to cover in terms of the amount of debris, we've been actually able to look at closely. and i must say the malaysian delegation was with us the longest. and they collected a lot of it.
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and they not only had aaccess but they also felt safe and protected. that gives us a sense of where we are at this moment. >> michael, you reported earlier that passports and things started appearing at the scene and those were thinking not there the first time you walked through. we're going to get back to you -- okay, i'm sorry, we're going to stay with us. we thought maybe we saw john kerry coming in. michael, i'm sorry, let me get back to you, how have you seen things change at the scene in terms of something that maybe was thought there initially, like these passports and other belongings that are there now. can you help us understand what may or may not have been compromised? >> yes, is this what we record last night to our 57-member states. is that on our patrol yesterday at the crash site, our special monitoring mission members noted
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the presence of documentation, such as plastic and national i.d. cards. passports that looked quite fresh and kind of not dirty or anything like that. on them, on areas that we have traversed quite a few tiles on previous days. but we feel quite certain that those items were not there previously on our previous patrols. >> michael, and i want to let the viewers know that we may have to cut you off to go to secretary of state kerry in paris, but we know there are police being sent into the area. some of them armed. do you think that will exacerbate that really tense situation there. or do you believe that having armed police there with these rebels will actually make things safer? >> well, my understanding is they will not be armed, number
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one. secondly, there are some logistical elements, if i can put it that way, that happened overnight. there was fighting here in donetsk. in fact, you could hear it overnight. and consequently, some of the rail links in and out of here have been destroyed. and it's a crucial link. and when new -- and the experts will arrive have yet to be seen -- well, what we were told yesterday, by one of the individuals escorting us from the rebel group is that they appear comfortable with a group of about 35 individuals, experts, and they would expect, that group of experts assist or guide them in collection of the debris for eventual transport out of the region. so that is the latest of what we heard yesterday from them.
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>> all right. alistair rosenshine and michael, thank you for your insight. >> thank you very much. we heard yesterday from prime minister of australia tony abbott, he said, australia is close to finalizing the agreement with ukraine for the deployment of police some of whom could be armed. a direct quote from the prime minister. we've heard from michael here that they will not be. we'll see actually what is going to happen there. we'll take a break. we'll be back.
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we want to give you a look at some of the other news this morning for. you. >> yeah, these are some of the stories making headlines. president obama is pressing central american leaders to address the recent immigration surge along the u.s. border. on friday, had met with the presidents of guatemala, honduras and el salvador. they say a comprehensive plan is in the works of course to address the underlying cause of why so many immigrants are leaving their home countries. a kansas man is arrested following the death of his 10-month-old foster daughter after she was left in a hot car
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after more than two hours. the man in the process of adapting the 2-year-old forgot about her after picking her up at a babysitter's house. the six others at the home have been removed. and used by target after the hack attack last year is acknowledging a data breach. cnn has learned thats experian has sold birthdays and infor identification. scientists are shedding new light on a solar storm that came close to impacting earth two years ago. it was the largest reported in history. and it could have done catastrophic damage to electrical systems and other technology worldwide. one study illustrated it could have had an economic impact of more than $2 billion. so far israel and hamas, they're holding their fire. a 12-hour cease-fire is in
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effect right now after week, of that deadly conflict. again, just a 12-hour pause. but the u.s. is leading the push for a longer lasting truce. we're going to take you live to israel and gaza at the border there on the top of the hour. of course, we're waiting for the news conference in paris from secretary of state john kerry, who will deliver the remarks on the effort to at least get seven days. a seven-day cease-fire agreed upon by the parties. stay with us. we'll bring it to you live. 'wóót
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♪ well, as we've reported, there have been far fewer casualties on the israeli side in recent violence in the middle east. israelis claim it's all due to the efficiency of their iron dome missile defense system. >> yeah, it basically intercepts and destroys missiles. but cnn's tom foreman takes a look at how this thing works. >> reporter: hey christi, victor, just as hamas is getting better with the range it fires out of the rockets out of tel aviv and jerusalem, so, too, israel has substantially improved its iron dome missile defense system. so much so that they're now claiming 90% effectiveness in neutralizing the rocket effect
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out of gaza. so how does this work? there are three key phases, anytime anything is launched out of israel, automatically very high-tech radar and camera systems start tracking it. they start to figure out, how big is it, how fast is it going, where's it going? that's the detection phase. next comes the analysis and targeting phase. what that means those same computers say, look, if one of these rockets is going off in the water, or a rural place where they can hit, they just let them go. but if one of these is headed towards a real target where people and property can be hurt and hit. then the third phase kicks in. the destruction phase. in that phase, the same computers community with batteries up to mirror missiles. they are ten feet long and carry 2400 pounds of missiles. those are launched towards it. guided right to you, and then blow apart everything in that airspace with great efficiency.
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this each individual defensive missile costs about $62,000. but undeniably, the israeli authorities will say, it is money well spent for a system they now consider essential. christie? victor? are you up bright and early? because we have an awful lot to talk to you about this morning. good morning to you. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. we are covering it all. it's 6:00 on the east coast and this is "new day" saturday. breaking overnight, this from jil 12-hour truce is underway between israel and hamas. to call it a truce would probably be radio strong. it's a cease-fire, it's a pause. >> it's given both sides this brief pause, from weeks of air strikes and shelling and rocket fire. but take a look at what it looked like right befe
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