this each individual defensive missile costs about $62,000. but undeniably, the israeli authorities will say, it is money well spent for a system they now consider essential. christie? victor? are you up bright and early? because we have an awful lot to talk to you about this morning. good morning to you. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. we are covering it all. it's 6:00 on the east coast and this is "new day" saturday. breaking overnight, this from jil 12-hour truce is underway between israel and hamas. to call it a truce would probably be radio strong. it's a cease-fire, it's a pause. >> it's given both sides this brief pause, from weeks of air strikes and shelling and rocket fire. but take a look at what it looked like right before this

truce got underway. explosions hitting gaza, 35 people dead. this cease-fire is in hour number five right now. and there's hope it can be extended this morning. >> secretary of state john kerry is leading the effort to get both sides to agree to a received cease-fire. he's in paris right now. we know that lives hang in the balance here, because thus far, more than 900 people, most of them palestinian civilians have been killed. 37 israeli soldiers. one guest worker and two australisraeli citizens also died. >> in gaza, residents poured into into the building as rockets took effect. >> and air raid sirens fell silent. cnn's martin savage joins us from jerusalem. >> and cnn's atika shubert is from the israeli side of the border with gaza. atika, quickly to you. is it still quiet there where you are?

>> reporter: so far, so quiet. and that's good news. even from this distance, we're just a few kilometers from the border, you can see some of the massive destruction in gaza. we'll zoom in very quickly here, so you can take a quick look. there's been a lot of dust picked up by a number of tanks and apcs that have been going back and forth across the border here, but we haven't seen any of that massive artillery strikes, haven't seen any rocket strikes fired from gaza into israel. that's very good for the cease-fire, but it does mean inside gaza now, they are trying to pick through the destruction and see who else they can find. there are reports of dozens of bodies still trapped in the rubble there. >> well, we know, martin, secretary kerry is now in paris, trying to lead at least a seven-day cease-fire. what are the key sticking points here for israel and hamas as well, from agreeing to that? >> reporter: well, there are a lot of them.

let me try to simplify it for you. i think, primarily, from the israeli side of things, before they are ready to go into a seven-day kind of cease-fire, their concern would be that hamas would use that time purely for rearming. in other words, to restrengthen their positions and to carry on the attack against the israelis after that cease-fire was lifted. on the hamas side of things, they would not like the idea of israel keeping its soldiers inside of gaza during that entire seven-day period. they would want the troops withdrawn outside of gaza. and we already know that israel has maintained that it is continuing to destroy the tunnels that they say belong to hamas, even while this cease-fire is ongoing. that would be a point of contention. victor and christie? >> all right. could international pressure get israel to agree to a longer truce? or a longer cease-fire? that is the question. atika, from your vantage point,

what do you think needs to happen? >> reporter: well, in order for this to -- first, we need to have this 12 hours of quiet. if we can go for 12 hours without any rockets, without any artillery fire, that puts us in a good position to continue with this possibility of a longer cease-fire. the problem is, there's a complete lack of trust on either side. and there isn't really anybody speaking to hamas to make hamas' guarantee stick as well. so, that's the problem we're facing at the moment. while this cease-fire is ongoing, even in that 12 hours, the idf is inside right now still trying to destroy as many tunnels as they can. if they feel secure enough and feel like they've accomplished that, there might be the possibility of those talks going forward. but, again, it's establishing that sense of security on both sides, where they feel that, okay, we can start talking and come to some sort of at least, de-escalation, possibly for the

next seven days. >> martin, there was this week, this u.s. high commissioner who said there was a strong possibility that international law has been violated by israel in a manner that could amount to war crimes. i'm sure that the israeli government refutes that claim. but can you detail the international pressure that is on israel in light of the more than 900 palestinian civilians who have been killed thus far? >> well, there is a lot of pressure. but israel is accustomed to doing things on its own, what it believes is the right course for the security of its people. it doesn't necessarily concern itself with what the united nations may say. benjamin netanyahu, the prime minister, was outraged when those charges were made on the part of the united nations. he says the israeli people have suffered for decades from terrorist attacks and continue to suffer with the thousands of rockets that have come from gaza. so he found that that was just a

totally inappropriate claim to be made. that said. israel is willing to go it lan, willing to tough it out, because israel believes this is for its own survival and the actions must be done. as far as the rest of the world, they can talk a lot, but they really can't do a lot. and as a result of that, many palestinians feel abandoned. they say, where is the international community? why aren't they in here stopping this bloodshed? that's part of what's triggering all of the violent reaction in the west bank now. >> all right, martin savage. and we'll talk about that, the protest that we've seen this and the deaths in the west bank. martin savage and atika shubert, thank you both. let's talk about some fear and chaos on the tarmac. and put yourself in this position. sitting in a seat and seeing these guys come in. this was the terrifying scene aboard a flight headed to panama from toronto after police say a 25-year-old canadian citizen

made a bomb threat. >> this happened yesterday and it forced the plane packed with 189 people to turn back, escorted by u.s. fighter jets. austin delaney with our affiliate, ctv, has more for us. >> reporter: it is dramatic video shot by a passenger in his seat as the tactical squad storms the airplane on the tarmac. they want everyone's hands in the air, aides down, as they search for one passenger. the flight 772 had taken off from pearson international on its way to panama city when it turned around over west virginia, 45 minutes later, and headed back to toronto. batina bays was sitting one seat in front of the man in row six. >> he basically tore a strip off her, explaining how expensive the expensive are here in canada, he hates canada, and he

said with great expression, i just want to bomb canada. >> the flight was then diverted and when it landed, police were waiting to board. passenger phil thompson says police were all business. >> they didn't take any good enough from anybody. everybody had to keep their heads down and hands up. once they started seeing the cameras pop up, they put a stop to that. >> i was very frightened and scared. >> reporter: when the man was arrested, his demeanor had completely changed. once he was in huffs, he was saying sorry and that he loved canada. >> ctv tease austin delaney, thank you so much for that report. investigators are trying to investigate the wreckage there of mh-17. they're desperate for access to the crash site, but now it's the rebels who control the area, who say, they are losing patience. plus, think about this. three air disasters in one week. if you've got some hesitation to fly, you are in good company. we're going to ask our panel of

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them to get experts to the scene soon. and they may only have another week's worth of patience. these are the same rebels that the u.s. accuses of shooting the airliner out of the sky nine days ago. >> still, dutch and australian officials are trying to negotiate access to the crash zone. in the meantime, victims' relatives are keeping vigil again today as another 38 coffins are due to arrive at the military base in the netherlands. >> and as investigators try to at least comb through that wreckage for more victims of flight 17, the fighting is intensifying in eastern ukraine. >> roads and rail lines, we've learned, out of donetsk, are gridlocked today. residents trying to get out of heavy shelling and anti-aircraft fire. kyung lah joining us now from the ukrainian capital of kiev. so what do you know about this latest round of fighting, kyung? >> reporter: well, christie, we have to remind people that this place, the place that the

investigators are right to get to, this crash scene, it's in the middle of heavy fighting. and this is fighting that we've seen in the last 24 hours increase. there has been, as you say, reports of increased shelling, anti-aircraft fire, all this happening in the north of the city of donetsk. the rebel-held town, this is a rebel-held town, and the ukrainian forces are trying to get closer. that's being confirmed by a rebel commander to cnn, as well as ukrainian forces, saying that they are moving closer to the stronghold. so all of this is happening as the residents of this town now are trying to flee. they are jamming the roads out of the center of the city, train service has stopped into the city, and out of the city. we are also getting a report from russia that refugees are starting to spill into their country. some 4,600 refugees have come into russia, according to the country, in the last 24 hours. so the crash scene, not accessible. this is happening in a heavily

contested area where the fighting is increasing, christie. >> let's talk about the victims for a moment, kyung. for the third day, we know that more of the coffins will be delivered to that military base in the netherlands. are there still victims remains still there in this field? is there any way to be sure? tell us where that stands. >> well, there's no exact way to know how many victims may be lying there, because there hasn't been a full inspection. this is a very large area. there are some 8 to 10 separate sites in a larger area that investigators really want to comb through. you need to get the experts in there. and they haven't been able to do that, because of all the fighting that we've been talking about, that's been there for a month and increasing, as we said, over the last 24 hours. so we just don't know. what we do know is that the last of the planes is sitting on the tarmac to remove some of the remains out of this country to

amsterdam. these are the ones that have been recovered, have been removed, and we've seen this grim process of the coffins leaving this country and returning to amsterdam for the repatriotati repatriation of these remains to their country. it is a slow process. and the frustration that there may be more remains there in the crash site. >> unimaginable for the people who are waiting there in amsterdam and all over the world for their loved ones to come home. kyung lah, thank you so much for joining us from kiev. >> thank you, kyung. and in the midst of this, we're talking about three air disasters in recent weeks that have left more than 400 people dead. this dramatic video here of a s.w.a.t. team storming a flight bound for panama. can you imagine sitting in that front seat? >> and there are so many people asking, with so much going on right now, is it safe to fly? >> show me all your hands!

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rosenschein with us this morning. tom, i'll start with you. for people who are thinking, i'm going to back away from flying for a while, are those concerns warranted? >> i really don't think so, victor. you know, it's still safer to fly than it is to drive to and from the airport, you know, statistically in the first place. it's just that air crashes are spectacular and the footage is spectacular. but if you add up all the onesies and twosies of auto crashes around the world, air crashes pale in comparison. >> okay, so chris, with these recent air disasters, what would you say to people to make them better prepared as they fly, perhaps, especially internationally? >> well, of course, the answer is to just go about your normal business, to turn up in plenty of time for the flight and to accept anything that happens to be thrown against you at the

security itself. the fact of the matter is, you know there were 34.5 million flights last year and out of those, only 84, 85 turned into -- >> all right, let me check in with you, alastair. we're having a bit of an audio problem there with chris. but alastair, at least one thing that these two aviation incidents had in common was immediately it was difficult to know what the nationalities, the identities, and the numbers of people on board. we know that it took some time with mh-17 and we still don't have all the numbers the from the algieri flight. that's a bit disconcerting, that immediately you can't tell me who's on this plane. should people be concerned about that? >> well, they would be, if that was the case. but the airlines do do

reconciliation between passengers and the bags that are boarding. their passenger lists are pretty robust. the time delay in releasing the passenger lists are -- after an accident, are directly as a result of having to make absolutely certain that every name is absolutely correct. because, you know, we're talking about, in this case, people who may have lost their lives or have lost their lives. and it would be imperative that those lists are correct. and that's probably one of the main reasons why there is a delay in releasing the passenger list and the nationalities of the passengers as well. >> so, tom, a lot of experts have asked whether the disaster of malaysia airlines 17 could happen again. and i want to talk about new york congressman steve israel, who's re-introduced this legislation to require to defense to install anti-missile

technology on u.s. commercial airlines. i'm wondering how the airlines feel about that, where the money would come from, is it feasible? what's your take on that? >> the money would come from the flying public. ticket prices would have to go up and be astronomical to cover that. and it's just not feasible. you're not going to take thousands, tens of thousands of civilian aircraft and somehow turn them into defensive fighter jets on a global basis, and then, what, send the pilots to top gun training? you know, the maintenance, the installation, the continued maintenance, the training required to operate those systems, i think it's just, you know, a political stunt, in my opinion. >> chris, do you know if there -- or do you believe that there will be some long-term sustained change in, i guess, routing around areas of conflict after what happened to mh-17? >> -- because at the end of the

day, we should be avoiding the air space above conflict zones and war zones. because there's always the potentia potential, the chance for this sort of thing to happen. so i know a meeting between various other bodies next week in montreal, that might give some indication as to the direction things are going, but don't expect anything soon, because the civil aviation industry works in strange and mysterious ways and oftentimes takes an awful long time to deal with a situation. >> all right, chris yates, alastair rosenschein and tom fuentes, thank you all for joining us. >> thank you. a live look now at pictures from ukraine. the last of the coffins being loaded on to a plane to go to the netherlands still. could be more bodies there in ukraine in that field, as we

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we want to let you know that we are standing by for remarks from secretary of state john kerry. he is in paris right now. >> he's leading this international effort to get a seven-day cease-fire between israel and hamas. a 12-hour cease-fire is in effect right now and in its fifth hour, but seconds before it got underway, look at this. these were the explosions and we're hearing from our correspondents on the ground, both israel and hamas seem to be holding their fire right now. >> gaza health officials say more than 900 palestinians have been killed since the israeli offensive began more than two weeks ago. and i want to be careful about calling this the israeli offensive. this is a conflict between hamas and israel. this is a shared offensive. and nearly 6,000 palestinians have been injured. now, 37 israeli soldiers have died in this conflict. and meanwhile, dozens of former israeli soldiers are refusing to

serve in the nation's reserve force. in an online petition, more than 50 soldiers, mostly women in non-combat roles, say they do not want to be a part of a military they say is oppressing palestinians. they say that although they're not the ones on the ground, serving in any capacity, it forces them to play a role in the conflict. >> one of those soldiers taking that stance is nama nagar. she joins us now. thank you so much for being with us. specifically, what is your reason behind this? >> hi, victor, hi, christie. thanks for having me. the petition that long been in the making. i specifically felt the urge to join in light of the recent events in gaza, which i think amount to carnage over there. i see the pictures, i read the stories, i see the numbers and it's horrific. and although the petition speaks about the militarization of

israeli society in general and several problems that we associate with the military, for which we support people's rights to refuse to serve, right now, there's really an urgency to show where this kind of militaristic ideology has led to. it's a militaristic ideology that has consistently prevented israel. and i'm speaking only of israel, because i'm an israeli citizen. this is where my responsibility lies. has prevented israel from seeking political means to end a political conflict. so we're drawn into this vicious cycle of bloodshed. because we're only thinking of physical might, as a means to solve something that doesn't resolve -- that cannot be resolved this way. >> you know, the conflict itself is just a portion of what is lighted in this petition. there is also the discussion of

discrimination and segregation. can you talk about, aside from the conflict, the larger story here, that your concerns about the israeli military and fyour decision not to serve. >> well, i had served for nearly three years. this is a petition of people who did not declare themselves objectors or pacifists before their service. we have gone through the system, and in retrospect, we regret having taken a complicit role in what is happening in the combatant areas and, yes, the military in israel is a very strong constitution. din de indeed, one of the strongest. some people say that israel is an army that has a state. and this has a grain of truth in it. for instance, right now, we're seeing huge sums of money just

pouring into the military without any parliamentary discussion, without any transparency. and just the militaristic ideology justifies everything in the name of defense. and as much as, you know, i live in an area that has been under shells of rockets from the gaza strip, still, i think that there is something very weird when we don't even hold any public discussion about whether or not it is cost beneficial to pour all this money into defense from rocket shells versus other life-saving means, including health and medical treatment and so on and so forth. this is the kind of conversation that isn't being held in israeli public domain, because wherever the military says, this is the need, everyone just says, aye. other reasons that we mention have to do with the way that people are funneled into

different professions in the military, in a way that kind of is similar to the u.s. tracking system, also tracking education. so that if you go to, for instance, what is considered an elite intelligence unit, such as the unit that i serve in, the national unit, you are automatically then able to -- you gain a lot of human capitol and social capital that allows you to go in and establish those high-tech companies and hedge funds, which later on create the forefront of the skraisraeli economy. an economy that is also to a great extent, based on military, because -- >> naama, i just wanted to thank you for, you know, being with us and letting us know, the background of this petition and why it's taken place. but we appreciate your time this morning. thanks for being here. >> thank you both. >> sure. now, for people who get nervous on planes, you probably want to

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jeeri flight 5017 in mali. >> yesterday, french forces found one of the flight data recorders at the crash site. the plane is said to have disintegrated. no one survived. the plane flew through the equator, which is known for these dangerous storms. cnn's miguel marquez tells us why. >> reporter: flying into any storm can be a bumpy, white knuckling experience. but flying into bad weather near the equator can be a nightmare, known as the intertropic convergence zone, a band of unsettled weather around the earth's equator, where some of the most ferocious storms can develop. >> you've flown in a lot of storms? >> i've flown in more storms than i would have liked to. >> and what is it like to fly into a serious thunderstorm? >> it can be anything from mr. toad's wild ride to the most harrowing experience you can imagine that you don't think you're going to get through it. >> reporter: in saharan africa, powerful sand storms, a product

of that intertropic convergence zone, a challenge for any pilot. this plane goes directly into the storm. you can hear the engines rev as the plane enters the sand storm. the sky turns red. visibility, zero. weather is suspected as the cause or a contributing factor in the crash of air algieri flight 5017. a massive thunderstorm was moving right through flight 5017's flight path. the aircraft departed at 1:17 a.m. on its way to algeria's capital. to get there, it had to cross the itcz, that band of unpredictable weather around the world's equator, where terrible weather can develop. at 1:38 a.m., flight 5017 asked if it could change routes. a storm had developed over its intended course. the plane made its way east, then north again.

last contact, 17 minutes later, near guo, mali. just maybe an erie similarity to air france flight 447, 228 people onboard, en route from rio de janeiro to paris. pilots on the airbus 330 were flying through an enormous storm spawned by the intertropicical convergence zone. >> intense winds coming down at you or from deferent directions. >> and hail. >> flight 447 was more than 30,000 feet over the atlantic. the storm shot up to more than 50,000 feet. the pilots added power, climbed until the plane stalled, losing all control, and slammed into the ocean from 38,000 feet. the crash of flight 447 found to be pilot error. what caused flight 5017 to crash, now under intense investigation. miguel marquez, cnn, new york. >> there's the investigation into 5017. also the investigation into mh-17 in ukraine.

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today, 38 more coffins with the remains of mh-17 victims will arrive in the netherlands.

but even now, many victims' remains are lying in the field with the debris from that plane. >> investigators say they need more access to those bodies and to the wreckage that's there. and it may be weeks if not months until the bodies are all identified. cnn correspondent simon mozen joins us live from the netherlands. thank you for being with us. what is the netherlands doing specifically to ensure those bodies are brought back, since they bore the brunt of this tragedy? >> reporter: christie, it's a major weekend of decision making here at the hague for the prime minister and his parliament. he's doing it through a debate friday. now he's saying that decision will be made over the weekend, whether or not to send armed personnel. that's the level they're getting to, going into that crash site

where mh-17 was shot down more than a week ago. and christina, as you point out, to guard the site to investigators can do their job. they can get there and do the forensic investigations and examinations they need to do and collect, most importantly, the remains of the passengers and crew that are on board, that have still yet to be collected and bring them back home. we've seen those beautiful ceremonies over the last couple of days, incredibly sad, military, bringing those coffins out one by one. that's happening yet again today. 38 coffins. i have never seen so many coffins in a row. it's absolutely heartbreaking. but imagine how it is for the family members and loved ones still waiting to know which of those coffins has their loved one on board. and so that's what this is all about. that's why i'm at the hague today. the decision is, can the netherlands or a joint international force or a european force go to ukraine.

and behind closed doors, i'm told the prime minister is in negotiations with russia, with ukraine, and with separatist rebels as well. but something that's really quite astonishing today is what russia is coming out with as well. the independent newspaper there, i'm being told, and this is all over facebook and twitter here in the netherlands, have come out with an apoll saying, holland, we apologize. and that really says it all, doesn't it? >> that's from the independent newspaper, not the russian government funded media there. thank you so much for joining us this morning. the coverage continues of our breaking story overnight. that cease-fire in gaza and how long it will last. the hope is for at least 12 hours. we'll go live to jerusalem and the gaza border for the very latest developments there. when folks think about what they get from alaska,

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it always happened like that. >> there are reports that it was more than 5,000 feet high. planes were temporarily grounded at the phoenix sky heart boarbo international airport. it's just a headache. leaves a coating of dust on everything. >> lots to clean up. and a tornado touched down on the east coast of florida yesterday as well. >> some homes lost power for a short time. there was damage at a local airport. you can see here, people trying to pick up the aluminum siding. there were no injuries, so that's the good thing there. >> much of the midwest, if you're waking up there or on the east coast today, take a good look at those skies. karen maginnis, what do they have to watch out for? >> it looks like 6.5 million people are under the gun in the moderate risk. that's the area that we most likely will expect a severe weather. a slight risk extending from des moines all the way over towards west virginia. but in this moderate risk area,

peoria, springfield, not chicago, but up across this upper valley region, that's where the moderate risk comes for this afternoon. shifts a little bit towards the east and engulfs a broader area going into sunday. some of the rainfall totals could be heavy, but it is that risk of severe weather, the potential for an isolated tornado that we're most concerned about. some areas could expect between 1 and 3 inches of rainfall through the tennessee river valley over the next several days. but those temperatures are going to be exceedingly hot across central united states. that haboob that you were talking about in phoenix, that reduced visibility, well, that's all part of that monsoonal moisture, the monsoons that build up, the thunderstorms. you get that downdraft from the thunderstorms and some orographic lift, meaning the mountains, and that's where you see those high winds the dust that gets kicked up. look at the temperatures coming up this afternoon in witchta,

106 degrees. and yesterday, california, a number of areas right around san francisco saw temperatures in the triple digits. and speaking of california, quickly, let's show you those pictures coming out of the wildfire. this is the sand fire, just to the east of sacramento, one injury, it's only 20% contained. and encompasses about 1,300 acres. back to you guys. >> rough weather across the country karen, thank you so much. >> thanks, karen. and thank you for starting your morning with us. next hour of your "new day" starts right now. got coffee and your breakfast, sit back and relax, because we have so much to tell you this morning. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. 7:00 here on the east coast. this is "new day saturday." and secretary of state john kerry, he is in paris this morning. >> he's leading this international effort to get israel and hamas to sign on to a seven-day cease-fire that will hopefully stop the israeli air strikes and the hamas rocket

fire. >> a 12-hour pause from the fighting is in effect right now for gaza. it's now in hour number six. but seconds before it got underway, this was the scene.all these explosions there in gaza. and the brief respite from fighting has led to the discovery of dozen of bodies. we're joined now by cnn's martin savage in jerusalem. >> also joining us, cnn's ian lee in gaza. ian, i want to start with you. as we heard this morning, more reports or another report of dozens of more bodies being found. what do you know about that this hour? >> reporter: well, christie, yes, that's exactly right. and we got about six hours of this cease-fire left, and we already have heard about 40 bodies pulled out of this rubble, and they're still looking, these areas along this eastern border were completely devastated. i was out just a little while ago and i saw emergency crews

sifting through the rubble, looking for these bodies. i also saw families going there looking for the little tidbits they could get. i talked to one family whose house was just peppered by shrapnel and their neighbor's house was just a large crater. they say they're not going to be there much longer, they're going to try to get back to the safety of one of these u.n.-run shelters. but there are people all over there, despite the warning from the idef who have said, do not return there, do not return to your homes, because this area has been a front line for most of the past week. we've seen a lot of the heavy fighting there, and these people are definitely being quick about their work, christie. >> let's go to martin now in jerusalem. martin, there was talk of a seven-day cease-fire, but the israeli negotiators wanted to be sure this would just not be a period for hamas to restock, rearm, and to double down on their effort.

can you talk more about what is, some of the other sticking points going into hopefully this week-long cease-fire? >> there are a lot of them. some of them are based on the most recent conflict ongoing in gaza and some of the other issues date back a long ways prior to the conflict that is going on right now. the israelis would be very concerned that a week-long cease-fire would be used by hamas to get ready for the next round of fighting. and they would like to continue to destroy those tunnels that they say hamas has been using to strike israelis and strike their own troops. hamas, meantime, would say, it isn't good enough just to stop the shooting. there has to be more done for the palestinian people of gaza. they would like to see a lifting of the security border. they would like to see trade open up again once more. they believe that they're under an economic embargo. israel would not like anything to be attached to the cease-f e

cease-fire, because they would then interpret it as a victory for hamas. there are both logistic issues that have to be overcome and political issues. and that's why many people do not believe it's really going to happen. >> martin, you talked about the tunnels and how they want to dismantle these tunnels. and even during this 12-hour cease-fire, we understand that they're doing that. how many tunnels do they have yet to dismantle. is there a count, there any sort of gauge as to the work ahead? >> you know, initially, it was said by some israeli leaders that the destruction of the tunnels would take about three days. well, clearly, it has taken a lot longer than that. and the tunnels along with the rockets, where the primary reasons given for the ground incursion. how many tunnels are left? the israeli military will son-in-law say they believe there are tens of them. they have, i believe, discovered about 30 so far. so it would imply there are still more to be found. they're quite extensive, they maintain.

this is not just somebody digging with a shovel and a pick. these are cement reinforced actual constructions that run underneath the security border, between gaza and israel. so that is a great concern and it requires a great deal of effort, the israelis say, to either use earth-moving equipment or explosives to destroy them. >> martin savage and ian lee, we appreciate both of you this morning. thank you. >> let's go to canada now, where chaos and fear inside a passenger plane was captured in really dramatic cell phone video. heads down! hands up! heads down! hands up! heads down! hands up! heads down! hands up! heads down, hands up! show me all your hands! hands up! heads down! heads down! heads down! >> can you imagine? i mean, put yourself in place of those people who are sitting there, seeing that. this started with an angry

threat that forced this sun wing jet carrying 189 people to panama to turn back to toronto. it was escorted by u.s. fighter jets. witnesses tell cnn affiliate ctv a 25-year-old canadian citizen said he wanted to bomb canada. >> he is due in court this morning for a bail hearing. according to ctv, his demeanor completely changed after he was in huffs. he said he was sorry and he loved canada. the plane was searched and nothing was found. police say shahi faces four charges, including endangering the safety of an aircraft. i want to share with you video we are just getting here into cnn. this plane just took off from ukraine. it's the last scheduled flight en route to an air base in the netherlands. 38 coffins are expected to be

received with military honors and taken to a facility to undergo forensic analyses. but the process at the end of the day could take weeks or even months. this is the newest video we're getting in from ukraine. >> this is the last scheduled flight, but those are likely not the last victims to be carried home. investigators suspect more remains are still there amid the wreckage in what's still a wide-open crash site. >> the dutch prime minister says the netherlands will decide this weekend whether to send an armed mission to secure that site and an australian force, we know, is also assembling. >> besides the inspectors, there are family members who want to see the crash zones with their own eyes. kung l kyung lau caught up with one such family. >> reporter: we all cope with grief differently. and considering that this plane crash site, this crime scene is in the middle of a conflict

zone, that it has been so frustrating, that there have been no experts to go in, that it has been unsecured, it's not that difficult to understand why some parents have decided to take matters into their own hands. >> go, go, go. >> reporter: george and angela can almost feel their daughter, they're that close, but they can't get there. >> a couple of minutes, please? >> reporter: these men are local ukrainian government officials, urging these parents not to enter the pro-russian held area of donetsk. they flew to ukraine from australia with nothing other than shock and grief. >> we have to go. there's no other way. >> reporter: their 25-year-old daughter was aboard flight 17, flying to australia to see them. >> we go, because -- we go -- >> with an outrageous disregard

of the crash scene from the very beginning, and only black bags and unmarked coffins coming out, they have chosen to grieve with denial. >> and we believe she's alive. every second counts. every second -- >> and our purpose is to find her. >> exactly. >> so it doesn't help us to be angry. >> i need to see the real effect, so that's why we came. besides that we, our daughter promised, we will find her. it's mom and dad. so this is the mom and dad. >> reporter: they poured their lives into their only child. she was an aerospace engineer who dreamed of being an astronaut. she believed space exploration could help bring stability to earth. >> the experience of space flight is a life-changing event. >> reporter: how can you let a child like that go? >> there is an urgency, because my belief that she is alive

cannot be sustained, if this takes 30 days. >> reporter: frustration mounting as the minutes tick by. >> no chance to come back. >> reporter: and these government reps get embassies on the phone to talk to them. >> you have not sorted this out. please do not contact me anymore! >> our daughter is there. and we are running out of time! >> so the risk, we know. no worries. >> reporter: finally, they're told to go at their own risk. this private car promises to drive them through the battle lines of rebel-held territory, where a parent's love has no boundaries. so did they make it in? well, it is a three to four-hour drive into this rebel-held territory, a number of checkpoints. in the last 24 hours, there has been an increase in fighting, but they made it. we understand they are there, they are safe, and they will try to still get to the crash site

some time today. vict victor, christie? >> kyung, i've got to ask you a question here. with mh-370, we know that there was never anything found, not a seat belt, not a part of the plane, but here you've got wreckage. the coffins by the dozen per day are being returned back to the netherlands. why do they believe their daughter still alive? >> reporter: because they want to. i think we all deal with grief differently. and these parents simply want to believe that she is alive. and the fact that there is something for them to go to, when you speak to investigators, they tell us that this is something they see at a lot of different crash sites, that there might be a miracle. there are miracle stories that have emerged out of plane crashes over the last 50 years. there is that possibility. the chance here, almost zero. but the fact that they want to believe, that's what's carrying them, despite the fact that all

the evidence is to the contrary. and we should add, victor, that what they are urging is that no one else do this. they are not encouraging anyone to go into this area, it is dangerous, no one should take this step. >> all right, kyung lau in kiev for us, bringing us a powerful story there. kyung, thank you so much. well, they could be some of the most important clues in the malaysia airline flight 17 crash. i'm talking about the plane's black boxes. but could they have been tampered with? and what information will vr investigators find. and another child dies in a hot car. this time it was a baby who was in the process of being adopted. because we're streaming the movie that you love. well, how do i win? because we ordered that weird thing that you love from the pizza place. how do you win, dad? because i used the citi thankyou card and got two times the points on alllllll of this.

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>> this morning, malaysia's prime minister is requesting full cooperation from the rebels, ukraine, and ukraine's armed forces as well. a spokesman in that region says rebels appear to be fed up and they've suggested that they may only have another week's worth of patience. >> meanwhile, investigators are trying to piece together details of the crash from the plane's black boxes. let's dig deeper with cnn military analyst, lieutenant colonel rick francona, and les abend. good to have both of you this morning. i want to start with you, colonel. colonel, there are the reports that the australians are trying to broker this detail with the ukrainians to send in police, some of them armed. how do you think this will impact this crash site? will it exacerbate an already tense situation, or do you think it will allow these investigators to get to their work a little bit more quicker is and more efficiently? >> they've got to do something to secure that crash site, otherwise, every day it's being

degraded more and more. i don't even know how much more clues they can get out of it, except the large pieces, but bringing in some sort of international presence is good. now, will the rebels allow armed australians on the site? i don't know. they can work that out. but the important thing is, we need to get this out of the rebel hands can into the hands of somebody international so we can keep people from walking through this site. remember, this is a combat zone. it's going to be very, very difficult to exercise any control over that site. >> last we know, british experts are analyzing the flight data recorders. if there is nothing found on those recorders, what do you do then? >> yeah, christie, that's a possibility. it depends upon where the missile struck and at what point in time. this flight data -- all flight data recorders and the cockpit voice recorder are connected to an emergency bus, which is basically battery power. so there may be a short period of time that we can develop or

the investigation team can get some evidence on what actually occurred. and this is all part of the jigsaw puzzle of putting together an accident investigation. there indeed may be something on there, on both the voice recorder and the digital flight data recorder. >> les, i'll stick with you and follow up on something that the colonel just said. with the limited amount of evidence that's still there at the crash scene and the reports that some of these pieces have been hit with the diesel saws, how comprehensive of an investigation and final report is still possible with all of the tampering that's reportedly happened there? >> you know, it's frustrating to me. i've participated on a peripheral basis with a very large accident and i've seen how accident investigators work and this has got to be totally frustrating to them. so that being said, they're going to have to use some innovative investigative skills by using pictures, trying to

georeference where these particular pieces may have been located. they're just going to have to pull all their resources. still, those fragments that are on the ground now, even though they may have been dislodged by these folks going through the site in an unsterile type of environment, may still hold a significant amount of evidence. >> lieutenant colonel francona, i think a lot of people hear that the rebels are fed up, so to speak, with this, and it sounds outrageous. a lot of people are probably looking at it and thinking, why aren't we doing more? we've got all kinds of negotiations going on, but how do you -- do you bother to negotiate with the rebels? you can't negotiate, it seems, with putin. hour han our hands are tied here. what are the options? >> this is the real problem here, because who do you talk to? and in the end, the control of that site still rests with a group of rebels who have other

things on their mind. what we're hearing now, they want this to just go away. and their answer is to get a bulldozer in there and move it out of the way so they can get back to fighting. they're very concerned, because now we're seeing a lot more pressure from the ukrainian government on this area and more russian support coming in. so the battle really in this area is just gik and now they've got this crash site in their way. and you know, although we have some reference for this site and think there needs to be some dignity attached and some investigation needs to be conducted, they, on the other hand, look at this as just something else they have to deal with. they want it out of the way so they can get back to what they believe is more important. it's just a bad situation. >> you know, the reports, les, that documents, personal effect, passports that were not there on thursday are now on the scene. when you hear that, what runs through your mind? >> well, you know what's been running through everybody's mind

that's attached with aviation, it's horrible that this whole crash site has been tampered, desterilized, just totally infected by folks that are not professional in accident investigation. it's -- i go back to what i said originally. we'll have to go back and see if the accident investigation team can obtain pictures that the folks have been taking there that might help them, you know, with this accident investigation, and put the pieces together, so that we can give dignity and respect to the folks that lost their lives and figure out concrete why, this missile, indeed, did take down this airplane. >> colonel rick francona and les abend, we appreciate both of you. thank you. well, two new apps that give you realtime data on flights

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up first, the last scheduled flight carrying victims of malaysia airlines flight 17 is now en route to the netherlands. this video just into cnn shows the plane taking off there this ukraine. 38 coffins are expected to be received with military honors, taken to a facility then to undergo forensic analysis. number two, a terrifying scene on a panama-bound flight yesterday. look at this cell phone video taken by a passenger on board. can you imagine sitting in that seat and seeing this? s.w.a.t. teams swarming into the plane's cabin. witnesses tell ctv a 25-year-old canadian citizen made a bomb threat. the plane was forced to turn back to toronto and searched. no weapons were found. the death toll in gaza is rising. that's even in a 12-hour cease-fire has been in effect between israel and hamas. well, palestinian recovery teams say they have found at least 40 bodies in areas that they could

not enter before because of the shelling there. palestinian doctors say the death toll in gaza has now reached 961. 37 israeli soldiers and two israeli citizens have been killed. number four, the district attorney will decide whether an 80-year-old homeowner who shot dead a burglar will face criminal charges. here's the thing. tom grier was beaten by a couple when he walked in on them robbing his house. this is what police say, but he grabbed his gun and fired, killing the woman. now, before he fired, she had yelled, don't shoot me, i'm pregnant, i'm going to have a baby. it turns out she was not pregnant. number five, if you've ever been told that you have to buy a new phone when you're switching phone carriers, even though your old one is in good shape, that may be changing soe ining soon. actually, it will. congress has made it legal to unlock your phone and use wit a new carrier. who knew congress had to get involved with that.

president obama says friday he plans to sign that bill into law. let's get back to one of our top stories this morning, the shooting down of flight 17. this is a tragedy that's marking a turning point, both in russia's battle with ukraine and the world's reception of russian president vladimir putin. >> take a look at the cover of "time" magazine this week, proclaiming a second world war with the airliner there as putin's shadow. and then there's this unsettling image of putin on the cover of "newsweek," calling putin the west public enemy number one. you see the praiah there. >> we appreciate you being here. we also saw in the "time" article, other world leaders try to avoid crisis, putin feasts on them. is that true? is he public enemy number one? >> mr. putin is clearly

responsible for the problems we're seeing in ukraine and for the shoot down of this airliner. so mr. putin has a lot to answer for. he seems not to care about the international kbhucommunity's thoughts about him. he is a pariah at this point. he is encouraging the rebels in eastern ukraine, with continuing to cause problems and continuing to stop the investigation of that tragedy. >> i want to talk to you about ukraine's prime minister and his op-ed in "the washington post." i'm going to read part of it. the west should begin thinking about a larger response to what has happened in ukraine. as always, the united states should take the lead. washington can shape a worldwide coalition of nations in support of ukraine to ensure that these terrorists are not able to strike again. there have been several rounds of sanctions that have been ratcheted up over the past few months and for some time now. isn't it time for the eu to do

their part, for europe to, i guess, ratchet up their sanctions? >> it's certainly time for the eu to ratchet up their sanctions, and i believe they are. they take a little longer to act than the united states, but they have acted in response to this tragedy. it's too bad that it took a tragedy to bring them to this point. but they have begun to ratchet up their sanctions. however, president poroshenko is also right that the united states ought to be in the lead on this, and there are more things than sanctions. sanctions ought to be hethere. we should clearly have the sanctions. but if there is a difficulty getting into that crash site, there are ways that the australians and the dutch, and we can help get an international force in there. we can also support the ukrainians as they try to counter, as they counter the force that mr. putin is putting into their country, to eastern

ukraine we can supply ammunition, food, armor, those kind of things. we can lead that. >> when we talk about sanctions, you have to wonder, what would rattle them. what is holding the eu back. are they in fear of him, in general. is it the fear of the energy that he holds over their heads? what is it? >> certainly there are economic ties between europe and russia. however, as i say, this incident, this tragedy, this killing of nearly 300 people on this airplane, 200 from the netherlands, has galvanized, i believe, has galvanized the europeans, and they are now in their slow, ponderous, but nonetheless determined way to put sanctions on. but that can't be all. >> there were new sanctions announced just before mh 17 went down. we're hearing the reports now

that these pro-russian separatists there, they are running out of patience. and australia says that they're working with the ukraine to get some police there, some will be armed. do you believe to get the full investigation underway, that this could come to a shooting conflict between the international community and these pro-russian rebels there? >> these pro-russian rebels, let's remember, these are thugs, these are murderers, these are the people that shut down this aircraft. their comment that they're running out of patience is ridiculous, it's outrageous. yes, we should have an international force. an international force could take care of those rebels immediately. the russians need to play their role. the russians need to cut them off. they need to seal the border between russia and ukraine so all of these heavy weapons and supplies, leadership that is coming across the border is stopped. that's what the russians need to

do. the international community can then secure that site. the rebels should be swept away. >> so you think beyond just sending some unarmed police, that there should be a concerted effort militarily to get rid of these rebels and take control of that site. >> if that's what it takes, that's what the international community should do. >> thank you so much for joining us this morning. >> thank you. well, another baby, allegedly forgotten in a hot car. the child died and now her foster father is under arrest. we'll tell you what happened. really... so our business can be on at&t's network for $175 dollars a month? yup. all five of you for $175. our clients need a lot of attention. there's unlimited talk and text. we're working deals all day. you get 10 gigabytes of data to share. what about expansion potential? add a line anytime for 15 bucks a month. low dues... great terms... let's close. introducing at&t mobile share value plans...

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here's a story that seems to keep happening. another child has died in a hot car. >> when i heard this, i thought, you have got to be kidding me. after all of the press that we've been -- all the times we've been talking about this. this was a baby who was in foster care. cnn's nick valencia joins us now. and we understand, nick, the foster parents were in the process of adopting her? >> that's right. and one of them is now in police custody. he's been booked on a child endangerment charge. as you mentioned, he was in the process of adopting a 10-month-old. there were four other foster children in that home. they've all been removed from the home and put in protective custody. the family of this foster father, the mother, spoke to our affiliate and said he's devasta devastated, didn't mean to do it. police are still working through that investigation. but police did mention the difficulties in dealing with a child death case. >> like i said before, baby deaths are extremely challenging, extremely difficult for detectives to work.

as mentioned, we've got to look at everything that -- all the facts, what we have, whether this was accidental or why it was left in there, how it was left in there. >> this 10-month-old was left in a hot car in temperatures that reached the low 90s for more than 2 1/2 hours at about 4:00 p.m. in witchta, kansas. the windows were rolled up, and as you mentioned, christie and victor, this is a sad reality, it's happened at least 18 times across the country this year. >> more than 600 since 1998. and the question is, how do you stop them? can you legislate your way out of this? >> there are states that have laws. at least 19 states across the country do have law. in florida, it's a misdemeanor to leave your child younger than 6 in the car for more than 15 minutes. it's tough to regulate. it's happened more than 600 times since the mid-'90s. it's an incredibly sad reality that we deal, especially in these summer months.

and you know, it really reminds us of this case here in georgia, justin ross harris, still held in prison for, you know, what police say, murdering his child. we don't know exactly when that investigation will wrap up, but we do know that the d.a. is working to try to wrap the investigation up. no timetable listed for justin ross harris. nick valencia, thanks. >> thanks, guys. >> after the break, forget air traffic control, there's an app for that now. you can actually download something on to your phone. a brand-new idea, two new apps designed to help people track planes from the ground. >> what?! security concerns! i'm sure a lot of people are thinking that. we'll tell you about it.

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i remember when i was a kid i would look up at the planes and wonder where they're going. >> oh, yeah. >> you can get an answer. two apps to identify all the air traffic in your area tell you anything you want to know. >> let's talk about this with cnn technology analyst brett larson. brett, what does this tell you? what information does it give you? >> i'm with victor. i'm also an airplane enthusiast. i like to stare at the sky and see the planes and wonder where they are going and where they

have come from and which type of aircraft they are. the plane finder apps will tell you what you want to know. one of them, you can point it up at the sky and it will show you all the different aircraft, even some further down on the horizon about 50 miles. it will show you the type of aircraft it is, the airline and the speed and how high up in the sky they are and where they come from and where they are going to. this is, you know, these apps are by no means designed to help or abide the people who want to do harm to other people. this goes to show you how much information is out there. you can see in the shot here, those are all of the airplanes that were coming in to jfk one morning when i was sitting in a location that sort of lines up with their landing. you can see where they're going and coming from and which airline they are. it is an interesting proof of concept there is a lot of

information out there. a lot of the information is realtime data. it covers about 95% of the globe in terms of air traffic control. this is not something that will work over an ocean or somewhere where you don't have an internet connection. this will work over land. >> i'm sure a lot of people are looking at this and saying this is cool. to learn and see where folks are headed. some are saying this is so dangerous about having information with planes with hundreds of people on board at the tip of your fingers. >> exactly. that is where data like this becomes dangerous. when you have this kind of data available on these apps and you mix that with military technology falling in the hands of the wrong people, then we have a recipe for disaster. that is especially of concern after mh-17 in the ukraine. i'm not saying in any way and don't tweet at me this is what

i'm saying. i'm not saying this is the app that was used by any means. i'm saying this data is available in realtime. you can see what is going on in the skies around you in realtime. >> you know, since you are our technology expert and we are talking about flight 17 to some degree, i wonder what kind of data could possibly be recovered from the technology that some of those passengers had, if it can be recovered. >> if anything can be recovered, it will tell an interesting story. everyone now when they travel, they have a laptop and tablet computer and smartphone. if the data on them is recoverable, it will give an interesting picture of what was happening when the plane was shot down. these people did not know this was going to happen. there will not be anything of that nature. for family members, there could be photos taken during or prior

to takeoff. there could be e-mails written that hadn't been sent that will be sent from the ground. there could be documents created or stories. all things by people expecting to get to their destination. now this information is left on the ground. >> to think that is precious information to families. >> it tells that last intimate story of the people on board. brett larson, host of tech bytes. thank you so much. >> thank you. the immigration crisis is fanning controversy at the u.s. and mexico border and stirring up tensions in washington, but lawmakers are running out of time. and hillary clinton there. she was mobbed in the crowd. a bunch of elementary kids in new york.

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hey, look at this. at the end of the event in new york, supreme court justice sonia sotomayor encouraged kids to swarm hillary clinton. >> the former secretary of state spoke at an event for the bronx children museum encouraging students to aim high. don't forget to watch tomorrow when hillary clinton sits down with fareed zakaria.

the immigration crisis is stirring up partisan tensions in washington. washington is running out of time to find a solution. congress leaves town for summer recess in less than a week. >> republicans and democrats are resisting president obama's emergency funds request. meanwhile, the president yesterday pressed central american leaders to address the problem. >> if you have a disorderly and dangerous process of migration, that not only puts the children themselves at risk, but it also calls to question the legal immigrant process of those are properly applying and entering our country. >> cnn's erin mcpike joins us from the white house. erin, they have less than a week. there is so much on the table, but what are the chances

congress will take action on this before the recess? >> reporter: victor and christi, a senior official from the white house said they are alarmed that nothing may happen in the next week or so as congress has one week left before that five-week recess when they will be back in their districts. we learned yesterday that house republicans plan to introduce a bill this week that would give the white house less than $1 billion to address this crisis. however, as we have been talking about for the past couple of weeks, the white house requested $3.7 billion. the senate was looking at a package to give the white house instead $2.5 billion. the senate was looking at a package and now they scrapped that and they are looking at $1 billion. there may be action next week, but democrats may not sign on to that because of the conditions the house republicans want on

the funding. i want you to listen to democrat texas congress member about what he thinks may not happen and what that will do to members of congress this august. >> it will be a horrible symbol for us to go home and go back to our districts and leave this humanitarian crisis. to go back and people when they have the town hall meetings and talking to folks, cameras will follow the members of congress and say what happened. >> reporter: now, on top of that, the mid-term elections are just three plus months away. that is why republicans are looking at trying to do something in the next week, christi and victor. >> forget elections in the meantime. if there isn't any action, what effect does that have on the crisis if there is no action in time for the recess? >> reporter: jeh johnson,

homeland secretary, has been warning that they will simply run out of money. that means a couple of things. one, the ability to deport these undocumented people back to their home countries will be almost impossible and conditions for those here who are put in the shelters will worsen. the crisis will only be worse and exacerbated if congress doesn't act without money. >> erin mcpike at the white house for us. it looks like each side is willing to do something, but how much we don't know. >> all about compromise. >> they did pass the bill to let you take the cell phone with you to the next carrier. >> something is happening, he is saying. >> thanks congress. thank you for starting your morning with us. >> next hour of "your new day" starts now. >> good morning. so glad to have you company. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell.

this is "new day" saturday. >> the war planes and rocket fire have stilled over gaza right now. this is in days. >> the death toll continues to rise even though the 12-hour pause from the fighting is under way right now. in gaza, palestinian recovery teams have found bodies in buildings that were smashed into rubble. >> cnn's martin savidge joins us live. martin, i know the death toll tops 960. what might this mean for the u.s.-led efforts for the seven-day cease-fire? does this hamper what john kerry is trying to do? does it accelerate it? >> reporter: it is bound to accelerate it. it is the impetus. that is what the secretary of state said, the shooting has to stop because of the incredible

death toll. the greatest number has been on the palestinian side. so, that's what is driving this effort to bring about a longer lasting cease-fire. right now, it is described as a humanitarian cease-fire. 12 hours. it is holding. that is a positive sign. essentially all it will allow is for people to try to stock up on food and desperately stock up on any water they can find. there has been great concern about that. then, as you point out, for the emergency teams to go into the rubble, which is too dangerous because of the conflict. they are discovering dozens and dozens of bodies. as you say, that will increase the desire to bring about a long-term end. we will see if that can happen. >> martin, we talked about the negotiators and idf there. what are you hearing from people who live there in jerusalem who are every day folks? what is their view of the

conflict? >> reporter: if you were to say what is the majority opinion, most people, of course, support the military and support the ongoing effort inside gaza. that is not to say they, in any way, like to see or in any way happy about the high death toll. israel has said it never in any way is wanting to carry out or kill civilians. that said, like any conflict, like in the united states, when you had the war in iraq or conflict in afghanistan, there are people who are divided over it. some are conflicted over it. some are opposed to military operations over palestinians who do not like to see the rising number of israeli soldiers killed. i would say they are in the minority. most people realize they live under the threat of terror. that the rockets continue to fall on israel, a well over 2,000 launched. i will not say there is a deeply divided nation in any way, but

like in any conflict, there are those who speak out against it. >> martin, when we look at the gaza side of things, they have been living in the unrest for so long. a lot of people look at it and they see the pounding and suffering that gaza has gone through with that 960 figure. if they would open the borders, is there any gauge as to whether people would actually leave the region? >> reporter: well, i think there are a lot of palestinians, yes, would like the opportunity to freely leave gaza. it is not that easy to do. but the likelihood of just lifting that security border and opening up the free trade, that is something hamas wants. it is part of its list of demands. it is not something israel would be ready to necessarily go forward with. israel will point at the fact and say look we have allowed trade and we have allowed cement

to go into gaza. how is that cement used? israel will say they were not using it to build schools, but using it to build tunnels under the ground into israel to run attacks on israeli citizens. this is the conversation that has gone back and forth and has done for years over how much access those in gaza should have to the outside world and vice versa. it is a very contentious point and it requires for negotiation of the seven-hour cease-fire. >> martin savidge there in jerusalem. thank you. >> you're welcome. this morning, more victims of the downed malaysia airline jet are headed back to the netherlands. these are the latest pictures we are getting from earlier today. the plane you see loaded with

coffins took off from kharkiv, ukraine. >> it is the last scheduled flight from the dutch air base. 38 coffins are expected to be received with military honors and taken to a facility to undergo analysis. the grim process could take weeks or months. >> among the people lost, a young family from the netherlands. i want to show you kim halley and daughter and dave is behind the lens. >> this photo was taken before the flight took off. it remains for the halley's extended family. erin mclaughlin has the story. >> too much. >> a whole family. yeah. too much to understand. >> reporter: dave and kim halley were on their dream holiday with their 4-year-old daughter,

megan. dave took what would be his very last photo. his wife and child ready for takeoff on board mh-17. >> we are looking at them and thinking, yeah, it was a happy moment for them. >> at least their last moments were happy. >> they were. yeah. >> reporter: kim's parents say all they can do is wait for their bodies. they watched as the first unidentified caskets arrived in holland and while they did not know for sure, they told themselves the halleys came off the plane first. >> they always wanted to win. we said this is it. >> reporter: when you saw the three coffins come off the plane, you said there they are. >> the first three were our children. >> that has to be them. >> reporter: do you blame anyone for what's happened? >> yes.

the man who hit the plane which blew up the plane. if i get him, i could kill him. >> reporter: not far away, the halley house stands empty. their car parked in the driveway. a makeshift memorial on the front porch and a grandmother's last moment remembered. as she was cycling from the halley house before the family left for the trip, she says she turned to see her granddaughter who waved and said. >> i love you. bye. >> reporter: now all they have left are memories. erin mclaughlin, cnn,

netherlands. >> tough. >> yeah. so let's talk about the french families of those on board the crashed air algerie flight. they are hoping to get answers today from their government. >> 116 people were killed when that plane went down thursday in mali. 54 of them from france. new images from the crash site you see here. they show parts of the plane broken apart and burned nearly beyond recognition. >> the plane was traveling from burkina faso to mali. so far, one flight data recorder has been recovered. flight 17's black boxes are being analyzed by investigators in the u.k. what could the boxes reveal? and fighting in the israeli army. why so many feel compelled to join the fight. when a pro at any 2014 pga tour event sinks a hole-in-one,

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this is cnn breaking news. >> 11 after the hour now. breaking news. the united states has evacuated the embassy in tripoli. >> this comes amid militia fighting in that area. it marks the second time in a little more than three years that washington has closed the diplomatic outpost in libya. joining us is pentagon correspondent barbara starr. what do you know, barbara? >> reporter: good morning, christi and victor. we are able to confirm overnight our time, the united states evacuated about 150 personnel, including 80 u.s. marines out of the embassy in tripoli in libya. they drove west. if you look at the map again,

they were driven west across the border into tunisia. they will move on to a number of areas. the united states not announcing where they are going. the u.s. took this decision to close the embassy in tripoli, libya because the fighting in that city had grown close to the embassy. the airport is nearby and come under repeated shelling from rival militia groups in the last several days. the embassy could not continue to safely function. we have been watching overnight here at cnn, we have been watching this story minute by minute because this long, about a six-hour evacuation drive across the border. there was significant u.s. military force nearby watching just to make sure they did not run into trouble with all of the fighting going on on the ground and ready to move in if they did. i can tell you the u.s. had two

f-16 aircraft overhead. they had a drone overhead watching the convoy to the border. there were also several dozen marines heavily armed in aircraft overhead ready to land if that convoy had come under attack and rescued the american personnel. keep in mind, there were 80 marines in the convoy because they were part of the protection force at the embassy. by all accounts, no shots fired. it all went peacefully. the u.s. had a lot of military fire power there because, i think everyone will remember, the benghazi situation a couple of years ago when the post in libya came under attack in a different location, of course. there was no force nearby to mount that rescue. this time, they wanted to make sure it all went flawlessly and there was the possibility of a rescue if these americans came

under trouble. what this is is a reflection that libya, a great deal of concern. the fighting is so intense right now with the militia groups. the government is so fragile. this may wind up being what the u.s. calls another failed state. the obama administration is struggling to figure out thousand assert its influence in libya. it now has become a security situation. the airport closed down, destroyed due to shelling. that u.s. embassy had become one of the frontlines in the war across tripoli and the americans just finally had to go. they had to leave. victor. christi. >> barbara, stand by. we have counterterrorism analyst phil mudd. the u.s. not the first to take the step. turkey evacuating its embassy. tell us about this group or groups fighting there and had

control of this airport for some time. >> you had a lot of malicious fighting in libya for some time. we have lost track with all of the other things going on around the world. you have the emergence of the forces. people who oppose the rise of the militias in tripoli. the in-fighting with the addition of the newer group led by a former libyan general is leading to continues fight in the capital. >> how do you gauge who to keep there and who to pull out? >> i think it would be too easy to look at this as a result of what happened in benghazi. my first reaction, i'm sure the first reaction of people listening, this is a defensive reaction because of the controversy surrounding the failure to secure benghazi. if you look at the situation on the ground, to me, this is quite prudent. the fighting has been going on because militias represent

various geographic regions. the shellsiing in the capital i intensified. the department in washington has to say we don't have much option here. >> barbara, back to you. do we know how long this could last and what efforts the u.s. is taking, if any right now, to kind of tamp down what is happening there in libya? >> reporter: the evacuation, the state department is saying, will last. the embassy will remain closed until the security situation is secure enough to go back there safely. what happened, basically, and phil is right. a partial reaction to benghazi. they wanted this to go smoothly. they had plenty of military fire power to call in quickly if they needed to. what happened over the last

several days and weeks, the nearby airport, which is close to the embassy, had been the object of shelling by rival militias. the airport now virtually destroyed. militias dug in all over the city. once the airport closed, that left the americans essentially no way out. how will they get out of libya and the u.s. military likes to make sure that they can evacuate an embassy safely before they can't get the americans out. so driving out became the only option. the situation in tripoli is so dire that they would not have wanted to risk putting in u.s. military force, u.s. choppers and u.s. aircraft into that to get the americans out. instead, make it as low profile as you can and simply drive the americans out of tripoli. head west to the border with tunisia and get everybody across the border. that has happened over the last six-to-eight hours.

we have been watching it all unfold overnight. how long will this last? the problem in tripoli right now is you have rival militias battling. you have a very fragile government. the u.s. making another diplomatic call for, you know, all the parties to lay down their arms and say get behind a new government. literally, since, khadafi fell in the government and the militias have grown in the strength and the affiliates with al qaeda. the people held generally responsible for the benghazi attack in libya, those people have grown in strength. the government there really struggling to get a foot hold and actually be able to govern the country. one indication is it is our understanding that the u.s. did not even inform the libyan

government of the evacuation until the very end until it was well underway. they wanted the -- the situation is so insecure and unsecure that they needed to make sure today in the last six-to-eight hours to get all the americans out and across the border without anybody in the libyan government, perhaps any militias even knowing it happened. that gives you an indication of how fragile the situation is and how much the obama administration may be struggling to exert its influence there. >> we will see if we get a comment from the white house. barbara starr with the breaking news this morning. barbara, thank you so much. phil mudd on the phone with us, thank you as well. breaking news this morning. 150 staff, including 80 marines there, at the u.s. embassy in tripoli. the embassy has been shuttered and closed. they have been moved west to

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mh-17, the cockpit recorder and black boxes have been handed over to the british. the british are working with the dutch to extract the flight information and analyze the data. >> the expert with the ntsb may help as well. it may be weeks before we learn

anything. let's bring in cnn analyst david soucie and david neil. let's assume a missile hit this plane. how would the black boxes reflect that? david? >> well, there's a couple of different things you could look at, but mostly what i would see in the black boxes validating of the other evidence. if you look at the black boxes and figure out which direction the missile came from, it could be used from that. you must know as you look at the trajectory of the shrapnel, you could look at the aircraft and you can tell from which direction it came. knowing that flight attitude. that is one thing. many times, an accident investigation, you don't know what you don't know until you know it. at that point, that's when you learn something. you go into an accident investigation with a completely open mind to go in and expect

something in the first place will taint the investigation. i choose to go in and say let's look the facts and data and do analysis after the facts. >> alan, the dutch safety board said the team of investigators they are putting together will try to find out if the black boxes have been tampered with to determine if anything nefarious happened with the harvest and retrieve and handoff. >> it is difficult to do, victor. one thing i think the black boxes are really important in providing is was that aircraft about 32,000 feet and on that iko approved air way? if that crash was below 32,000 feet, the rebels, when it ends up in criminal trial, which i imagine will, probably in the

haiig. they will say it was out of the war zone and not a legitimate target. >> so david, you know, when we look at the situation on the ground, we have the rebels today saying they're fed up with the fact that the people are still there and they haven't collected everything. they are giving them another week. if they only have another week, so to speak, how compromised is this scene going to be? >> well, it's going to be compromised. it already has been compromised. i don't know there's anything that can be done about that certainly. i do know that they are assembling people right now that could go out there. the objective would be to document the scene in a very finite way and do the best they can. this is not typically the way we do an accident investigation. this is not a typical accident. to document the scene. there are ways to make three

dimensional models and making high definition photographs and document the scene. this may be the first accident investigation that we'll have to investigate digitally. >> to that end, alan, if the rebels determine they are done, a week or two weeks, of course these investigations take much longer than that, how compromised is the investigation and will you really ever get a definite answer about what took this plane down? >> well, fortunately, there was a european news agency crew on the scene a couple of days after the accident. this individual called me up. he read my book. he said, doc, i want to talk to you. they went around, david, much like the ntsb does and i did with a gps locater and cameras and they photographed the wreckage a couple of days after the event and they have some of

the best documentation available. they also had some great pictures. close ups of the damage to heavy structure. he sent that information to me. i said you need to send this on to iko. you have built a great wreckage diagram. as we know, the separatists have been accused of moving the wreckage. i think this one news organization did a great job of building a wreckage diagram. not as precise as ntsb, but it is probably some of the best evidence we have. he also had some pictures of damage to the bodies. i'm not a pathologist. if the dutch medical examiners do a good job, they may find evidence of the shrapnel, but rocket booster. it is very interesting. >> that may be how this comes together if they decide to shut this scene down. alan diehl, author of "air

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this is cnn breaking news. >> the breaking news is the united states has evacuated its embassy in the embattled libyan capital of tripoli. >> this comes amid intense militia fighting in that area. of course, this marks the second time in a little more than three years that washington closed the diplomatic outpost in libya. a fluid situation right now. we will keep you posted throughout the morning. let's go to canada now. fear in a passenger plane. we saw it on the cell phone video. watch this. >> hands up! heads down! >> hands up! heads down! >> show me all your hands! heads down! heads down! heads down! hands up! >> they are shouting heads down

and hands up. >> and holding guns. imagine this video. this started with an angry threat of the sunwing jet to turn back to toronto. it was escorted by fighter jets. we have been told from ctv, a 25-year-old canadian citizen wanted to blow up the canada. >> this is according to al ali shahi. he said he was sorry once in handcuffs. nothing was found. shahi faces four charges, including endangering the safety of an aircraft. could the downing of flight 17 happen again? i know a lot of people have wondered that and aviation experts say it could. >> and now new york congress member steve israel is trying to

revive a bill. >> the original bill called the missile defense act failed to advance in 2003. it required the pentagon to pay $1 million a piece to install plane was anti-missile systems. >> if you crunch the numbers, it is almost $7 billion. does it have a chance now the second time around? let's ask congress member steve israel. he joins us from west babylon, new york. thank you for being with us. >> good morning. thank you. >> the question here is how likely is it this will get passed considering how much this costs and airlines, as we hear every quarter, are strapped for cash. >> how much does it cost when a shoulder-fired missile is fired at a plane? it would completely ground aviation. look, with what's happened over the past several weeks, our reminders of the threat of the surface-to-air missing is real. i believe it is going to

increase. we know there are 500,000 to 700,000 of the shoulder-fired missile systems around the world. we know there are thousands of systems in the hands of terrorists. terrorists are coycats. one rocket landed a mile away from the ben gurion airport. i'm concerned they will replicate that tactic. they have defensive technologies. many military have defensive technologies. air force one. corporate jets. all should have that technology on the planes they fly. >> those technology to install, that has got to be meticulous and time consuming and effort as well. help us understand what is in this bill. are you talking about all airlines across the board or planes that fly to certain regions? >> we are trying to find the right mix that would incentive the industry to adopt the

technologies. i don't understand the argument why the israelis have found the wi wherewithal and resources. i don't accept it here in the united states. the airline industry says it costs about $1 million a plane. the cost of the in-flight entertainment system is $1 million a plane. i'm glad we have the ability to watch multiple channels, including cnn, at 30,000 feet, i hope want to takeoff and land at airports easily without that shoulder-fired missile. >> let's talk about that shoulder-fired missiles. our analyst tom fuentes says that is the greater concern, not the sa-11s or the buk missiles above 30,000 feet. i guess is it better to equipped the airports themselves with

stationery defenses instead of each plane. >> the plane themselves are not stationary. ours are the most secure in the world. it is not that difficult for the terrorist to take a shoulder-fired missile and put it in the trunk of the car and take it to an airport. you don't have to hit the plane. just the tactic of firing a missile, even if it misses, is going to have devastating consequences on the airline industry and our economy. now, rather than trying to equipped an airport here and airport there, planes take off and fly into many airports around the world. wouldn't it be better to defend the plane knowing wherever the plane is traveling, the same protection the airport has. >> do you have any support for

the bill? >> i'm sorry to say it is going to be difficult. many are worried about the cost. i'm trying to find the right mix of incentives to bring everybody to the table. this is going to be hard to do, but much harder is to answer the question the day after the shoulder-missile is fired. why didn't we act sooner? >> congress member, i would like in our reaction of the breaking news this morning that the u.s. embassy in tripoli has been vac straig evacuated. >> you want to err on the side of caution and safety. this an unstable area of the world. that is why i always believed the united states has the obligation to stick by the area in the region that is israel. >> congress member steve israel. thank you for taking the time to talk to us today. >> thank you.

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who have a fear of flying, which is a common phobia will have those fears stirred up. if people want to be afraid, they should be much more afraid of driving their car because they are more likely to have something happen in that instance. what really is our fear and our tendency toward anxiety about flight that has people stirred up combined with what we are watching. if you watch television, you would think that there are many more air accidents because we tend to cover them and cover them over and over again and in a way that is really frightening. that's what is stirring people up. >> you bring up a good point. i wonder other than television being a trigger, are there other

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