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crash site after a weekend of violence there. this as the u.s. releases new evidence showing russia is firing over the border into ukraine. this morning russia pushes back. deadly day at the beach. a freak lightning storm hits beachgoers in l.a. one person dead, another hospitalized. in florida a plane making an emergency landing on a beach hits and kills a beach goer. your "new day" starts right now. >> announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo, kate bolduan and michaela pereira. good morning. it is monday, july 28. 6:00 in the east. chris is off today. john berman joining thus morning. big questions looming in the middle east after a ceasefire between israel and hamas came crumbling down. both sides agreed to hold their fire for part of the weekend.
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and both sides blaming the other. overnight the u.n. security council called for an immediate end to the hostilities. what are the prospects for a new ceasefire today? martin savidge is joining us from jerusalem with the latest developments. what are you hearing from the ground? >> reporter: good morning, kate. i wish i had better news. over the weekend our hopes were raised with the temporary pause in the fighting. maybe it could be extended. today the fighting goes on. early this morning the united nations security council convening an emergency meeting calling for a renewed ceasefire to allow the delivery of urgently needed assistance into gaza, but neither side accepted, both agreeing to only a few hours of peace andry jekting previous deals for a truce. >> we had a ceasefire, they violated it. now they're violating their own ceasefire. obviously we'll take whatever
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action necessary to protect our people. >> reporter: the israeli military detonating explosives in two tunnels they say hamas uses to get fighters into israel. secretary of state i don't know kerry heading home after six days of exhaustive diplomatic meetings. president obama spoke with benjamin netanyahu by phone stressing the need for an immediate ceasefire. outrage continues to grow over the number of civilians caught in the crossfire including grade schoolchildren injured in thursday's mortars strike at the united nations building used as a shelter for gaza families. israel defense forces confirm a single errant mortar landed in the courtyard of the school but they denied responsibility for any deaths pointing to their footage of the strike and claiming the courtyard was empty at the time of the attack. officials from the u.n. and palestinian government report 16
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people were killed and hundreds wounded. a cnn team visited the shelter after the attack. israel says yesterday 74 missiles were launched from gaza into israel. meanwhile the death toll now over 1,032. >> martin, we'll come back to you shortly. this also marks the ending of ramadan. that's why some thought there could be some kind of ceasefire in the works. we'll see how things progress throughout the day, of course. coming up we'll speak directly with the israeli foreign minister's office about the possibilities of a ceasefire today as well as speaking with the arab negotiator. investigators that were headed to the mh 17 crash site were turned away. they expected to access the site but ran into trouble from separatists. we saw the explosions.
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we did hear them. obviously too dangerous for the inspectors to get through. at least 13 people including two children have been killed in the latest escalation of fighting in eastern ukraine. this comes as the u.s. releases satellite images that it says proves that russia has been firing across the border into ukraine. we want to get the latest from cnn's matthew chance who is in har kooef. >> reporter: after a weekend of intensive fighting between ukrainian government forces and pro-russian rebels, the international investigation into the mh 17 crash have been brought to a virtual standstill. in the nearby ukrainian town, pummeled with rockets leaving at least 13 people dead including two children, both sides blaming each other. else where, too, violence blocking access to the site, turning away dozens of dutch and australian forensics experts.
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government forces confirm they are now fighting to retake areas near the wreckage despite earlier assurances of a ceasefire. meanwhile diplomatic pressure on russia is being ratcheted up. u.s. secretary of state john kerry urging russia's foreign minister to cut off the flow of weapons into ukraine. the u.s. state department also releasing satellite images purportedly showing russian forces firing rocket launchers and using artillery strikes on ukrainian military forces across the border. sergey lavrov says there have been no unlawful border crossings, inviting osc monitors to see for themselves. the fighting in this region intensi intensifies, there seems no let-up either to the war of words. despite that initial optimism that there would be access today for the international investigators and for the osc delegation that's accompanying
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them, we are hearing word that a cnn team on the ground near the crash site telling us witnesses have said the delegation, the investigators and the osc have now been turned back from the crash site. that's still to be fully confirmed. that's the latest reports we're hearing. it seems for a second day in a row the international teams have been unable to get to that crash site because of the deteriora deteriorating security situation there. >> just about 20 minutes ago, matthew, we heard explosions, saw smoke rising from the area where they were to be headed. so what do these investigators do now? they're all in the region. they want to get to this site and see what they can as soon as they can. already ten day ors so since that crash. what are these investigators going to do now? >> reporter: well, i doubt very much whether they're going to give up because of this setback over the past two days. they're going to stay here and continue negotiations with both sides and try and gain safe access to that site. it's crucial that they do that for a number of reasons. first and foremost there are still dozens of bodies,
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passengers, crew members, on board mh 17 that have still not been accounted for. for the sake of human dignity those remains have to be recovered. also personal belongings taken away as well, but also clues still there on the ground, clues that could lead investigators to establish more clearly what it is exactly that happened to this downed malaysian airliner. their task is not done yet. it's unlikely they'll give up at this early stage. i think what we'll see in the days ahead, more negotiations, more more efforts to try to gain safe passage into that crash site. >> you say the task is not done, it's barely even done with the fighting going on near that crash site. matthew chance, thank you so much. back here at home, we have pretty scary and deadly events happening on beaches on two coasts. the first one, a rare lightning storm hits the california coast killing one person and injured at least a dozen others. let's get to indra petersons on that freak lightning strike.
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indra, it seems very rare, some seven people or more. >> incredibly rare. california, they're used to seeing monsoonal thunderstorms in the mountains and deserts, but not at the beach. that's exactly what they saw yesterday when a sunny day quickly turned deadly. >> it sounded like a sonic boom. it literally shook the building, shook us on the courts. >> a sunny day at venice beach turned deadly sunday. >> i happened to see this crazy bolt of lightning that i had never seen ever in my entire life. >> a rare lightning storm took beachgoers by surprise leaving one man dead and a dozen others injured. >> we heard the biggest boom. >> we hit the ground and felt it come over us. >> the sound of thunder captured on tape. >> holy [ bleep ].
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>> emergency crews treated at least 13 patients at the scene, all of whom according to officials were either on or near the water. of those, a scuba diver seen here after being resuscitated. seven adults and one teenager were transported to local hospitals. one man in his mid 20s did not survive. >> it felt like somebody punched me in my head. it went down the right side of my body. my calf locked up and i fell over. i looked up and everybody else was falling over. >> helicopter footage shows lifeguards administering cpr before loading a man to a truck and bringing him to an ambulance. a terrifying scene leaving beachgoers in shock. >> i haven't ever seen in l.a. something like that and heard thunder that close. it literally knocked me off my chair. >> so how rare is it? if you're in florida, you have a
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one in 600,000 chance of getting strike by lightning. in california, 1 in 7.5 million. in the summertime monsoonal thunderstorms, high pressure, but it stays in the mountains and deserts. it shifted farther to the west yesterday. it was a gorgeous day at the coastline. you could actually see maybe a few scattered showers out there. out of know where, in only 15 minutes that thunderstorm came right across the area and proved deadly. many californians not used to seeing it. >> it happened so fast. it says they were on the beach and boom. >> that was the big question for a lot of people. why were you on the beach if there was a thunderstorm coming through? they had no idea. >> not used to seeing that kind of weather there. >> unbelievable. thanks indra. the libyan government is appealing for international help after oil tankers caught fire during fighting at the international airport in tripoli. a convoy of british diplomats
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fleeing violence have made it safely into tunisia. their vehicles were fired upon during that trip. all this after the u.s. embassy in libya evacuated its personnel. fighting at tripoli and benghazi at its highest level since the revolution three years ago. chairman of the house and senate veterans affairs committees are set to reveal details of a tentative deal to reform the va health system. the deal reached over the weekend is expected to address short and long-term needs of the agency following the waiting list scandal exposed by cnn. both chambers need to approval the deal. a testy exchange between an air traffic controller and a delta pilot has gone public. the atlanta air traffic controller heard telling the pilot after landing that he's on the wrong taxi way called lima when he's on the one called mike. take a listen. >> i don't have an attitude. i'm saying it looks like you
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joined lima instead of mike. >> okay. because my god there's another plane out there. your attitude is really something, sir. we're out here on mike. >> settle down captain happy. >> delta says it's looking into the exchange adding that passenger safely was never compromised. when you consider the number of close calls that we've had, it makes you wonder if there is some tension going on more often between pilots and air traffic controllers. >> and the skies are more crowded, the taxiways are more crowded. there's no room for that, though. >> captain happy. >> one thing i don't care about here is bruised feelths. i don't really care -- >> is the plane in the right place. >> that's what i care about. that's what matters there. >> if it's not, forget about captain happy or mr. attitude. coming up next on "new day," talking about the lightning in
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california. another horrible accident that killed a father and leaves his daughter fighting for his life. a plane had to make an emergency landing and it hit the pair on a beach. we'll tell you what happened. new concerns this morning about the spread of e bowl lie after word that a second american is being treated for the virus. we'll have the details ahead. high performance skincare™ only from roc®. i never know what kind theof adventure awaits. that the days are longer, and the breeze feels a little sweeter. and, thanks to volvo, i'll pay nothing for repairs or maintenance for 5 years, nothing. they even cover my first month's payment. so, i'll be happy wherever the summer takes me. the wonder of summer event. the 2015 volvo s60 sedan with complimentary
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now to florida's gulf coast where a family beach outing took an awful, awful turn. a father killed, his daughter left fighting for their life when they were hit as this plane made an emergency landing at the edge of the water. alina machado following the developments. this is an awful story. >> it really s john. this man and his daughter were doing something that all of us have done at some point in our lives, going for a walk on the beach when the unthinkable happened. >> she had what seemed to be friends, even if they didn't know her, they were there comforting her. >> reporter: a mother distraught after her husband and 9-year-old daughter were hit by a small
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pla plane. the pilot of the plane forced to make an emergency landing after sending a distress signal to authorities. >> definitely not something you expect going on the beach, having fun with your family. it's terrible to have something like that. >> reporter: the man struck on the beach identified as 36-year-old omi ir czarry was killed at the scene. his 9-year-old daughter oceana airlifted to a children's hospital and said to be in critical condition. both a pilot and passenger in the plane uninjured. >> it's got to be devastating. my prayers are definitely with them. >> reporter: the 1972 piper cherokee on the sand feet away from the ocean, the front landing gear destroyed. according to local reports preliminary evidence suggests the plane may have lost power. authorities are still looking into what caused the fatal crash. >> we don't know exactly what caused the crash, but the ntsb is on trout venice and will investigate fully. >> we're told the man was from
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georgia. no word yet on how long this investigation will take. john and kate? >> just an awful story. alina said, you're walking on the beach, the last thing you're thinking. >> she says, everybody does this. >> a big turn to major league baseball. welcoming six new members into the hall of fame over the weekend, a big change from last year when no big names got in. andy scholes has more on this morning's "bleacher report." what is the deal, lucille. >> last year the talk around the hall of fame centered around who didn't get in from the steroids era. this year we got back to celebrating some of the game's greatest players. enshrined into cooperstown, pitching grates tom glavine and tom maddux, frank thomas, bobby cox, tony la russa and joe torre. torre was apologetic after the ceremony because he forgot to
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thank long-time yankees owner george steinbrenner. nba fans who already own a lebron james cleveland cavaliers jersey can let out a big sigh of relief, lebron announcing on instagram over the weekend that he's going to go back to the number 23. king james changed to the number six when he took his talents to south beach. bulls owner jim irsay awaiting punishment for his charge of driving under the influence and possession of prescription drugs. he had 29 grand on him at the time of his arrest. still keeping cash on hand, he made it rain at colts training camp. irsay handing out $100 bills to fans who were there just to watch practice. how about that? the owner walks up and gives you
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a $100 bill. >> you're texas fans, you don't need to be paid. colts fans apparently need to be paid. >> whoa, easy. i'm wearing my colts colors. i didn't realize that. >> did somebody pay you to do that, since apparently it takes compensation to cheer for the colts? >> never. it's just a thank you. we're more generous with our fans than others. thanks, andy, thanks for coming to my defense as always, andy, love you lots. next up on "new day," the ceasefire is no more. israel has resumed air strikes in the face of rocket fire from gaza. we will speak with an israeli official about this operation and how long now this might last. plus there's no undoing history. how would a rematch look today if president obama had to go up against mitt romney? we'll have a look at surprising poll numbers coming up later this hour. (son) oh no...
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♪ america, you cast your votes. now, go to xfinity on demand and select the people's hotlist to see this summer's top 100 shows and movies. i voted! t ceasefire between israel and hamas is over. violence has begun to rage again in the middle east. the u.n. security council overnight very importantly says it wants one back, a ceasefire in place immediately.
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so with the blame getting tossed around, how does a ceasefire return and more importantly how can they make it stick. let's get more -- let's get the israeli viewpoint from the spokesman for the israeli foreign ministry who is joining me from jerusalem. mr. palmar, thank you very much for the time. >> sure. thank you for having me. >> i want to get your take on the news that happened overnight for us here in the united states. the u.n. security council coming out with a vote to say they want to see an immediate humanitarian ceasefire put in place. will israel agree to that? >> it has already put in place. we have been holding our fire since last night and we are now maintaining an unlimited humanitarian ceasefire. our troops will only fire if they come under direct attack. >> so there has been no offensive operations since
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yesterday, since that ceasefire fell away? >> exactly. exactly. >> no offensive initiative of any kind. we are continuing the engineering operations to destroy tunnels, but no offensive operation inside gaza territory. >> i want to ask you about those tunnels. but first really quick on this ceasefire, you say israel is agreeing to the ceasefire. where does that leave things? where does that leave things with any agreement with hamas? >> we must distinguish between a situation of ceasefire when both sides cease to shoot, and that is, of course, a prerequisite for any further negotiations and more general arrangement which would include other steps that are not necessarily in the military realm. now, we are backing the egyptian plan which stipulates that first the fighting must stop and then
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we can discuss grievances. this plan has been just now given the support of the security council, it is supported by i think almost all of the international community, but more important, supported by israel and egypt itself of course, the relevant parties on the ground. >> one very relevant party has not agreed to that which would be hamas as you well know. where do things stand today? it sounds to me like the ceasefire of the weekend, that fell away. rockets began being fired as israel has reported into israel once again. you're saying israel is responding to that fire. but you still maintain that there is no offensive, there is no offensive action being taken by israel still today. >> not only is there no offensive initiative taking place, but we are also taking some fire from hamas without responding. we're intercepting the rockets naturally with the iron dome
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system, but we are not directly responding to each and every rocket that's fired into israel. we are maintaining an unlimited truce, unlimited ceasefire. that's the way it should be. >> one thing that hamas wants and they have told us is they want the israeli ground troops out of gaza in order to make a ceasefire stick. is that something that is israel will consider? >> i didn't hear any of that in the u.n. security council resolution or statement. i didn't see anything like it in the european union's foreign minister's statement. hamas are standing alone against the whole world, the whole international community. they're in no position to dictate conditions. there is an international consensus around ceasefire and the egyptian plan, and this international consensus should not be shattered by the rejectionism and extremism of a terror group. >> also, late yesterday president obama spoke by phone
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with prime minister benjamin netanyahu. we heard when president obama pressed the prime minister to agree to a ceasefire because president obama said he was very concerned with the mounting casualties that are happening over there. what was the prime minister's message to president obama? >> what the prime minister had to say to president obama he said to president obama. it is not something that we are going to disclose in public. but as you can see from what you hear from me and from your correspondents on the ground, there is a ceasefire that we have maintained since last night. that is the most important thing, and then there are diplomatic contacts going on in order to try to establish a long-standing arrangement. president obama has called on a demille tirization of the gaza strip and in the long term this is the most important thing that can ensure that other rounds of fighting will not take place
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every time hamas fancies to shoots rockets on israel. >> mr. palmor, michael more rin, the former israeli ambassador to the united states, he was quoted in the "wall street journal" by saying what israel needs is diplomatic cover at the united natio nations. most importantly he said this, "the best thing secretary kerry can do is stay out." do you agree? >> michael oren has spoken in his current capacity as a private person. we believe that we have no great ally than the united states. we have no better friend than the united states and we are very grateful for that friendship and for the united states' help and assistance over the years. i will also add that president obama and secretary kerry are israel's great friends and they have -- they don't need to prove that anymore.
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>> is united states and israel on the same page right now today? >> we are on the same page and we are clearly agreed that hamas should not be legitimized in its control over gaza and in its terror actions which are harmful, not just to israelis but also to palestinians, not just to people on the ground, but also to the possibilities of any diplomatic break through in negotiations for permanent peace agreement between israelis and palestini palestinians. there is a clear agreement that terrorism should not be allowed to prosper and the gaza strip should be demille tirized. these are the strategic key issues and on them we agree almost 100%. >> one final question though. you agree with them 100%, on the same page as the united states. but then what do you make of the proposal that was reportedly put forth by john kerry to the israeli government, leaked in
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the israeli press that many thought -- many in israel thought leaned very far away from israeli interests? >> not just many in israel. there wasn't one single observer or pen did in the israeli press whether from the right wing, the left wing or the center, the conservative part of the press or liberal part of the press who did not criticize that document. that said, one should distinguish between criticism at a document and what it means and the criticism to the person of john kerry. we, of course, do not share any kind of that criticism towards the person of the secretary of state. we don't need to -- well, i will say it again. he is and always has been israel's loyal friend. we have no grievance whatsoever in that respect. the paper itself is more than debatable. you've seen the reaction of all
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the israeli media. i think nothing more needs to be said. >> mr. palmor, one of the main goals going into this on the part of israel is not only to inflict pain on hamas and to take out their rockets and their weapons that they have, but more importantly is to take out the tunnels that have been dug into israel. how many tunnels have you found? how many tunnels have you taken out? >> as we speak now 36 tunnels have been uncovered, 36 tunnels that are crossing into israel. we don't know about the quantity of tunnels that are crisscrossing gaza territory without trying to penetrate israeli territory. the idf has now destroyed approximately 16 or 17 tunnels at this moment and they are continuing their operations to blow up and destroy other tunnels. i think it's quite clear we cannot allow any kind of such
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tunnels to cross into israeli territory especially as we know what their purpose really is. i mean if it had only been for the purpose of smuggling cigarettes, it would not have been good, of course. but we know that hamas has used them on various occasions and has planned on using them again for major territory attacks on communities in the south of israel and, therefore, it is essential that we destroy all of them. >> yigal palmor, spokesman for the israeli military, thank you for your time. >> thank you. coming up next hour we'll get the palestinian perspective by speaking with the chief palestinian negotiator saab air cot. john? the spread of ebola has now sickened two americans trying to help prevent the spraed of the disease in africa. we'll tell you how they're doing and how the fight against this deadly disease is coming along. also, congress still has a lot of work to do before the summer recess.
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that she wears for the role she was playing. the disease can be spread as easily as walking by somebody and brushing their arm. >> that was wen eye sacks the vice president of samaritans first responding to another american aid worker in liberia testing positive for the ebola virus. it comes right after an american doctor o found out he was infected. the recent diagnosis shows how difficult it can be to protect against ebola, a highly contagious disease. i want to give you an idea about the people. we know she's a missionary from north carolina. she was there in liberia living with her husband since 2013. she is gravely ill, and we're told that she is in isolation. her husband at this point is being monitored, has not shown any signs. this doctor, dr. kent brantly in
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monrovia treating patients. these aid workers are so brave going into the line of fire when you think about the fact that they're right there on the ground. we know they take extra precautions. he started noticing he was getting symptoms last week and he started to isolate himself. he's in isolation right now. we're told that he is not out of the woods yet but that he is doing well. the key here is that survival increases when detected early. again, ebola has a high fatality rate. this is key in this situation of this american doctor. let's take a look at where we're talking about. we know the ebola outbreak, the current one is centered in west africa. as of july 20th, they're saying 1,093 in people in sierra leone and liberia are thought to be infected. that's from the world health organization. what's more sobering, 442 of
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these people have died so far. the biggest concern here, two things, they're concerning -- the concern is that the fear is the virus will spread to africa's most populous nation which is nigeria. there's always concern someone can get on a plane and come here to america. this is something we will keep watching. an outbreak infected two american aid workers. we'll have a physician to talk to us a little more about what we should know and how we can make sure to watch this world outbreak as it continues. that's it from over here. kate -- i was going to say chris, but you're john. >> i am, indeed. confirmed second source on that. >> this is john berman. a range of issues is facing congress before lawmakers head for their august recess. chief among them, a package to curb the surge of undocumented immigrants along the u.s.-mexico border. both chambers appear deadlocked at the clock is ticking. will we see any last-minute
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deal? let's see. let's bring in margaret hoover, cnn political commentator and consultant and john avlon, editor in chief of "the daily beast." the line in washington when i was covering congress was there's nothing like jet fumes to get them to reach a deal. when it gets close, that's when they'll actually make a deal. can congress actually leave town without reaching any sort of agreement after the uproar both sides had over this, margaret? >> kate, i do not think they can. it would be incredibly irresponsible from a public policy perspective and also, frankly, just doing your job. humanitarian crisis, that term has been used hundreds of times of the last few weeks. both sides have mud on their face on this one. both sides are pointing fingers. they need to find a way to land the plane and get it done. >> just freaking doing your job, i remember that from "school house rock."
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john avlon, let me ask you, if congress does pass something, a skinnied down version, not the $4 billion the president wants, if they pass something, $1 billion, $1.5 billion, does the white house need to sign that? >> it would be a major mistake to walk away. everyone is using the phrase crisis. this is a time when polarization is so bad, it doesn't even compel action. the question is will they get their job done this week? is there a chance in hell they'll extend their recess or their working time, it wouldn't bet on it. harry truman called congress back to deal with the crisis, this team will probably sit it out. >> magic happens in those hallways when they are about to leave for their break: i'm more cynical about it this time because of how partisan things are. i think the american public has given up on what they expect congress to do. >> sadly some in congress have also given up on what they think their body can get done.
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>> take a stand though, right? >> show leadership and lead the country. as we know there are sicknesses on the border. there are thousands and thousands of children on the border who need to send a strong signal to these countries that they cannot continue to allow their children to flood the american border. >> on the subject of who is leading the country, a cnn/orc poll. i think it's fairly delicious. the only poll that matters is the one on election day. but there are others that matter almost as much. this one, what would happen if the presidential election from 2012 were held today between president obama and mitt romney. this time if it were held today mitt romney would win by nine points. now, let that sink in for a moment. we also asked the question what if the election were held between, say, hillary clinton and mitt romney. but look, look. hillary clinton wins this by 13 points. so how do you explain this?
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>> what is going on? >> in these competing bizarreo worlds, what can happen. >> there is such a thing as swing voters. it also suggests that one of president obama's problems is he hasn't been a strong leader in an executive sense. but again, mitt romney is watching these polls today and get me a cup of coffee. >> at least among some voters it's him, the president that's the issue, not the policy. hillary clinton is not so far apart. >> that's exactly what it is. >> what we know is the president has an extremely low approval rating and this is his sixth year in office which it's very common for them to have low approve ratings in the sixth year. this is more about president obama's failure to lead or lack of popularity than it is about hillary clinton or mitt romney. >> i'll make a quick segue over
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to the darth vader poll. isn't it also about the fact that the president is in office, always greener pastures when you're looking at who isn't in office. they've combined the favorability polls. we'll go daily show on you right now that darth vader has a higher favorability rating than any presidential candidate out there including hillary clinton. what's happening? >> when darth vader looks like a good alternative. >> everybody knows who darth vader is. not everybody may know who mitt romney is. >> in a cuddly approachable way. >> hillary clinton was asked about the possibility of facing off with darth vader when she sad down with fareed zach cara. >> what do you make of the fact that darth vader is pulling ahead of every presidential candidate? what's the deeper meaning? >> i think the deeper meaning is
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that people love fantasies. sometimes when we're so frustrated with the gridlock in washington, we would like some figure. darth would not be my choice, but somebody, perhaps a slightly more positive attitude and his presentation, to come in and just fix it. >> in a semi serious point, this is something our founding fathers worried about, not darth vader. when things get so chaotic, there are strong indications for a strong -- >> you're saying darth vader is the strong man of this scenario. >> margaret, you don't have to go there. just let it sit. the fact that darth vader is -- >> somehow going to clean up washington. >> she's the one that called dick cheney darth vader. maybe she wants dick cheney back. >> well played margaret. >> margaret hoover, thank you so much for being with us. enjoy the rest of your morning.
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welcome back to "new day." the man accused of gunning down a detroit woman on his porch will be back in court. at issue, whether theodore waifer was defending himself or pulled the trigger? alexandra field has more on what's expected to day and a recap of last week's emotional testimony. >> reporter: prosecutors make their case for murder against theodore wafer, another half dozen witnesses are set to testify before they rest. a ballistics expert, more law enforcement officers, one of wafer's neighbors and a friend of mcbride, the 19-year-old woman shot and killed on the doorstep on this detroit area home. >> i just shot somebody on my front porch with a shotgun banging on my door.
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>> reporter: emotional moments marking the first week of the trial. mcbride's mother tearing up on the stand talking about the last time she saw her daughter. family members leaving the courtroom at one point over come by pictures of rah nisha and the jury hearing what wafer told police minutes after the deadly shooting. >> so i open the door kind of like who is this? >> reporter: mcbride's death has sparked fury, some describing the shooting as racially charged. wafer's attorneys argue the 55-year-old was defending himself in his home. he woke up terrified by heavy banging noises in the middle of the night. much of the case hinging on wafer's screen door. >> could have called 911, but he didn't. his actions that night were unnecessary, unjustified and
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unreasonable. >> reporter: mcbride was unarmed. her blood alcohol level nearly three times the legal limit. hours before her death she wandered away from a car accident. family members say she may have gone to wafer's looking for help. alexandra field, cnn, detroit, michigan. >> let's dig deeper with jeffrey toobin, former federal prosecutor. glad to have you here to help us go through this. so much involved and so much emotion. initially he said, mr. wafer said he shot her by accident, then later said he did it in self-defense. can you shoot somebody accidentally by self-defense? >> that's a big problem in his defense in this case. it would be one thing if this was a straight-up trayvon martin-zimmerman defense in the sense that, i was threatened, this is how i defended myself. i acted reasonably under the circumstances. he's got sort of a twist on that
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which is, well, it was reasonable, but i didn't even mean it in the first place. that is, i didn't even know my gun was loaded and it just went off. so i think his defense is, frankly, even weaker than zimmerman's because he doesn't have a consistent story in what he's saying. >> going from there, what do you think are the important factors to remember -- the important factors going forward in this case, what he intended to do or what his state of mind was, a real reasonable fear for his safety, how she acted or ultimately what she did? >> i think state of mind is the issue in this case, there's no doubt what happened here. he shot her, she died. the issue is was it an accident or was it a reasonable response to what he was seeing or was it simply a crime? i think those are the sort of three possibilities and all of them go to what he was thinking at the time. >> how does the defense make the
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case that it is reasonable? what are the determining factors for both sides on that issue? >> it's sort of a classic jury case in that regard. reasonable is one of those words that is always going to be defined in the eyes of the jury. you can never really give a clear definition of reasonable other dlan what the jury thinks is reasonable. i think what makes this case so racially charged and so uncomfortable and disturbing is a white homeowner, black woman knocking on the door in the middle of the night. what is the reasonable response? frankly, i don't think under any circumstances shooting through a door is reasonable. >> when you're in a place of safety, right? >> right. he was not, it doesn't seem to me anyway, threatened in the way that could possibly justify shooting. >> let me ask you, we learned in
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alexandra's piece that ran nisha had a my high blood alcohol level. what does that matter? >> i think it doesn't really matter if you were dealing in a strictly rational world. jurors hear that, they may think, well, she really was threatening. the key issue we're talking about in this case is what does wafer think? he has no idea she's drunk. all he hears is banging on the door. what is the reasonable response to banging on the door? he could have dialed 911, could have not answered. shooting through the door accidentally, under any circumstances. >> i've heard from commentators this case is important not only in the detroit area and also beyond and why there's a lot of interest is it could set a precedence for hefl defense within one's home. what do you think about that? >> michigan has a law called the castle doctrine. your home is your castle, you have sort of a greater legal right to defend yourself when
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you're in your home, and that's the law that he's trying to take advantage of. still, though, you have to behave reasonably and shooting through a door, it's just hard for me to see -- >> especially when you think the gun is not even loaded. there's some holes here. jeffrey toobin, thank you. >> good to talk to you all. a lot of news going on including breaking news we want to get to for you right now. good morning everybody. chris is off, john berman is here with us. we want to welcome our viewers from the united states and around the world. we're following breaking news at this hour out of ukraine. an international inspection team that was headed to the mh flight 17 crash site, they have been turned back by pro-russian separatists. a cnn team on the ground says there's regular on going shelling in the area right now. >> this comes as russia has been firing back at critics.
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they're denying any role in the downing of the jet or responsibility for the chaos in ukraine. this after photos show russia launching attacks into ukraine. joining me is the spokesman for the organization for security and cooperation in europe. he is part of that team, that international team of monitors sent to evaluate the crash zone that have now, we understand, moments ago have been turned back. michael, can you hear me? >> yes, i can hear you. good morning. >> what happened to you as you tried to get to that crash site this morning? >> well, we had traveled a fair distance to the crash site, probably a little over halfway there. we had our own special monitoring mission team members with us, about 12. we were joined by about 45 experts from the netherlands and from australia. it was the biggest ever contingent of experts attempting to get up there. we had secured overnight, or at least we thought, assurances
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from both sides, the ukrainian side and the rebel side that we would have safe and unimpeded access. and then what happened near the town of shark tars on the rebel side, there was quite loud shelling nearby. we took the decision ourselves consulting with our dutch and australian friends to turn the convoy around. it just didn't seem safe to proceed. we can't say this enough. it's unacceptable what happened. the site is vulnerable, as you know, to natural an man made factors, and we're really sick and tired of being delayed. this is the second day in a row now. >> do you have any sense of who is responsible for this shooting which ultimately caused you to turn ar rouound? >> we do not. certainly we are not going to get into the game of finger-pointing. we made it clearerly on it's in nobody's interest that this
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mission not proceed. again, we had the biggest numbers of experts both from the netherlands and australia. they have been preparing for two days to get to work, to really accelerate their work. everyone knows that time is of the essence. yet we're prevented by shelling from going forward. >> let's reiterate that point. we're 11 days now from when this plane was presumably shot out of the sky. why is it so crucial for you now to be on the ground at that scene? >> well, our hearts, mind and prayers really go out to the families. i think i speak for everyone here on that point. we all know there are still human remains out there exposed to the elements, number one. secondly, it is one of the biggest open crime scenes in the world as we speak, and it is not secured. there's no security perimeter around the 30 or 35 square kilometer site. so it is, again, vulnerable to
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many different factors. the experts are more than prepared to go there and resume that collection, retrieval of human remains and also to examine the debris and then prepare it for probably transfer elsewhere. >> it does seem, michael, that someone lied to you. you had assurances from both sides that this area would be safe. if they can't control your own people there, what are your plans going forward. you keep trying? >> we'll try again tomorrow. i'm sure in between now and then there will be very stern talks with both sides that we need to get there as soon as possible and unimpeded. again, it's in nobody's interest that these visits do not take place. everyone is ready to go. but when there's such unpredictable safety aspects
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involved. for example, the shelling, it's difficult. and we had thought that, for at least a few hours today the guns will be put down. the checkpoints will disappear, but that obviously did not happen. >> it is a shame and people being hurt here are the families of the victims of the crash. we appreciate your efforts and we do hope you do get access to the site as soon as possible, michael bow churkiw. thank you so much. breaking developments in the battle in the middle east. a top israeli official told us a short time ago that israeli is only firing into gaza after being fired upon by hamas militants which began after the ceasefire over the weekend ended. israel is still pursuing destruction of tunnels stretching from gaza into south earn israel. now the u.n. security council is hoping to bring an end to the bloodshed. the body calling it a late night overnight session for a full stop to the hostilities at a late night meeting. martin savidge is on the ground
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in jerusalem with the latest. what is the very latest on the ground? is there any hope on the horizon for a sustained calm here? >> reporter: it sort of depends on how you interpret that statement you were just talking about. that came from the israeli foreign ministry. it's described at least by israeli as an unlimited ceasefire. as you point out israel says it's only responding when fired upon and only responding to the area from which they received fire. they also, of course, are keeping their troops inside of gaza and they're continuing to destroy those tunnels as they find them. hamas is not going to look at that and say that's a ceasefire and they certainly aren't going to like to hear the word unlimited when israel maintains an occupying force inside of gaza as hamas would perceive that to be. israel is calling it an unlimited ceasefire. hamas would definitely not call it that. is it a glimmer of hope? it's certainly clear that the conflict levels seem down today. that's no indication it will
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remain that way, kate. >> martin savidge on the ground. it's a difficult situation to piece together. that's why you're on the ground to get the reporting straight from you. let's get the palestinian point of you. saeb erekat is joining us from the west bank. thank you so much for your time. you heard from martin savidge. most importantly i want to get your take on what has happened overnight, coming from the u.n. security council calling for an immediate ceasefire for humanitarian purposes. the spokesman for the israeli foreign ministry told me a short time ago that israel is abiding by that and not taking part in anymore offensive actions. why are the rockets still coming then from gaza? >> because the israelis are not saying the truth. the israeli arm is inside gaza,
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occupying gaza. they're actually destroying gaza. i'm sure you've seen the footage of what's happening to more than 1.5 million people in gaza. two days ago secretary john kerry came out in a press conference in cairo and in paris and introduced a plan of a seven-day ceasefire, he called it humanitarian ceasefire. palestinians accepted and the israeli government rejected. that's the truth. if this campaign of public relations addressed by the israeli spokespersons, they cannot hide the fact that they have destroyed so far 20,000 palestinian homes, more than 1100 palestinians are killed, mostly women and children and that there are 6,000 people wounded and there's no more infrastructure in gaza. what we need is to employ deescalation, deconfliction.
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we need a ceasefire immediately and united states secretary of state offer that two days ago. offer is still on the tachblt we are willing to dispatch a delegation to cairo to begin deliberationtion of the long-term issues in gaza, but i'm afraid that the israeli tanks, israeli missiles are inside gaza as i'm speaking to you. they are inside gaza shooting, destroying, demolishing and saying they are defending themselves. they're the occupying power. what they're dining is not self-defense. they're the occupying power, they should be responsible for the human lives there. killing women and children, look at the united nations figures. 90% of those killed are women and children. it's a total destruction. that's what's happening in gaza. what we need is to adhere to what secretary of state offered with the egyptians, with the europeans about a seven-day humanitarian ceasefire to begin
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deescalation and then the delegations can be in cairo under the auspices of egypt to begin the dialogue required. >> mr. erekat, how do you get to the point then? if you think israel is not telling the truth about offensive actions on the ground, then how do you get to the point of a ceasefire since neither side has any trust that the other will stick with it? i know you do not speak for hamas, but how is it going to happen? >> i think if the israeli harm decides to have ceasefire, they pull out of gaza, then the ceasefire will stick. we have the united nations, many ways to monitor the ceasefire in gaza if the israeli government pushes to declare a serious ceasefire. that's not what's happening. >> so you would -- >> they are advancing more and more into gaza, destroying more
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and more into gaza. >> let me clarify this point. on your part, from your viewpoint you believe a serious attempt at a ceasefire coming from israel would be only if they would remove ground forces from gaza? >> that's the point of friction, kate. if you want to have a ceasefire and say you're not occupying gaza, the first thing to do is to get separation, to get back to where you were before you began your military incursion, land incursion. if you want to keep your army in gaza, that's the friction, that's the shooting. you're saying i'm going to destroy tunnels while destroying homes, schools. what happened to the school of the united nations two days ago when 22 people were slaughtered or killed. i'm not going to say finger-pointing, i'm not going to do anything. all i want to see now is these people in gaza, 1.7 million people in gaza are really in a
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horrifying situation. they are homeless. they have nowhere to go. there is no place safe in gaza. what we need is a united nations-led effort to ensure a ceasefire is put in place. this could happen if the israeli army gets out of gaza and then the united nations can say to both sides. >> do you believe if israel would move troops out hamas would stop firing rockets? israel doesn't believe anything they do will stop an offensive action coming from hamas. >> look, 48 hours ago there was a declaration of a 12-hour humanitarian ceasefire sponsored by the united nations and both sides stopped. this could happen. i think it's in the interest of ever run, because if israel believes they can solve this palestinian problem by attacks, by f 15s, missiles, destroying palestinians, they're adding fuel to the fire, the cycle of
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violence, extremism, not only between palestinians and israelis but throughout this region. our problem needs a political solution. 45 years, 46 years of israeli occupation must come to an end. there is only one way out for both israelis and palestinians, that is a peace process that would lead to a two-state solution. israel failed to achieve this over the past 20 years, will add more complexities to our overloaded wagon of complexities. military solutions will not produce anything other than extremism, and that's the truth of this region. >> final question for you. an important point on the part of the sarah palin government. mart of the goal is to uncover and destroy tunnels going from gaza into southern israel.
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they told me they uncovered 36 tunnels from gaza into southern israel. from your perspective, what is the purpose of those tunnels? >> i know the situation is so much complex. i'm not saying i know the picture as a whole. but all i know is that what we need know -- there's a fire in the building. we need to get the people out and then we need to extinguish the fire and then we sit down and talk. and the day after for gaza and the west bank must be addressed seriously and must addressed through political means, not military means because if the israelis say they are destroying tunnels, that means one thing. they will reoccupy gaza. now on the west bank there are no tunnels, no people are shooting missiles in the west bank, but yet last night 200 palestinians have been wounded. last thursday eight palestinians were killed in peaceful demonstrations.
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at the end of the day, the collapse of the palestinians, total israel occupation of gaza. >> the tunnels though is an important point coming from the part of the israelis. i understand you say a political solution, not a military solution is one you should be looking at. saeb erekat, we appreciate your perspective on this. clearly not an easy answer. saeb erekat, thank you very much for your time this morning. and thanks for dealing with the delays, a big communication delay. thanks so much. taking a look at the headlines at 14 minutes past the hour. the libyan government now looking for international help after oil tankers caught fire during clashes at its international airport in tripoli. a convoy of british diplomats made it safely into tunisia after coming under fire during the trip. all this after the u.s. embassy
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in libya evacuated personnel. fighting in tripoli and benghazi is at the highest level since the revolution three years ago. severe weather turned deadly along the california coast. a 20-year-old man was killed, at least a dozen others were injured in a lightning storm along venice beach, california. firefighters san jose a bolt of lightning hit the water. the electric current traveled hitting swimmers and surfers along the way. a florida beach day turns tragic. a father was killed, his young daughter fighting for her life. they were struck by a plane that had to make an emergency landing on a gulf coast beach. the victims are identified as 36-year-old ommy irizarry and his daughter oceana. a ride in an ohio theme park has been shut down after an accident that injured two people. a cable on the sky hawk ride at cedar point amusement park broke
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saturday night. the ride will remain closed while the park conducts an investigation. a spokesman says safety is their top priority. let's talk weather. we know there's been extreme weather, tornadic activity. do you like i knew that word, indra? taking a look at it for us. >> always impressed with you, michaela. ana tornado that uprooted trees, 80, 85-mile-per-hour winds early yesterday afternoon, even took sports equipment and threw it across the field. it was not the only incident of severe weather. we actually had six reports of tornado damage. saw about four in tennessee, one in west virginia and that was the one through connecticut. plenty of storm reports from just the strong winds that were out there. all of this from the same culprit. today the tail end of it producing weather from the carolinas going back into mississippi. that's going to be the concern as the same front continues to take its time. once it makes its way offshore,
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finally, the good news, we'll be talking about high pressure building in. maybe a couple of scattered showers around the lakes. most of you will love this workweek. hard to say as you go towards the middle of the week it will get a lot nicer. for today, as the front still making its way out, two to three inches of rain. after that, the story will be the cool air finally diving down all the way to the southeast. yes, where the temperatures have been so hot and humid, are going to be going down. it's not just the temperatures themselves. but humidity level going down. so that excessive heat warnings have been fueling the southeast finally going away. it's going to feel oh, so much better. a lot of people should thank me and i should be happy during the workweek. >> it's really nice outside as everyone is inside working. >> we have to plan that better. >> he just sucked the life out of me. >> sorry, indra. i was ready to help you out. >> everybody should like me but john.
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with little sign of piece. ukraine and russia engaged in a hot conflict. iraq defending off i.s.i.s. militants. militants are wreaking havoc in libya and syria. there is so much instability in so many parts of the world, the question is how does it affect us here in the united states and can the united states find any way to bring calm to these regions. joining us for perspective,
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bobby gosh. i want to take a look at the map and look at all of these hot zones. by the way, off the map over here is afghanistan where the u.s. still has troops and the taliban smaking big gains in some of the regions right there. madeleine albright, former secretary of state, took a look at a map like this and essentially said the world right now is a mess. accurate description? >> it is. at any given point there are some parts of the world that are a mess. the concentration we're seeing now is really unprecedented. not for several years have we had so much conflict that is, as you said, hot, bombs, guns, people killed. years.en't had that for several that is a huge challenge. john carry is the busiest man in the whole wide world because he's having to deal with all the conflicts. >> the question, what does secretary kerry do, what can the united states do? take a look at libya where there's this conflict, this
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civil war waging right now. over the weekend the united states pulled all of its personnel out of the u.s. embassy. they say they don't want to use the term close the embassy. that's semantics. the united states not in libya anymore. >> pulling out of your staff out of the embassy is a big statement. the fall of gadhafi which was celebrated a couple years ago has not solved all the problems. you have enormous tribal divisions. this is a country with oil. this conflict could affect us directly because it has an impact on the price of oil. this is a conflict in which we did get involved. the united states as well as its european allies contributed to this conflict directly. if you remember reimposed the no-fly zone. so we kind of own this a little. >> let's talk about another conflict where u.s. involvement has been debated. take a look at syria. everyone right now looking at gaza in hamas. a thousand more people dead in
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gaza. in syria over the last week there are reports that well over 1,000 people, maybe as many as 1700 people have been killed in done flikt there. >> yes, the important thing is if the reports are what we believed, more than 1,000 of bashar assad's soldiers have been killed, keep in mind in the last several months his army has been sort of successful, they've driven the rebellion back, taken over a lot of territory. now they're losing soldiers, 1,000 soldiers in just a few days. that's a huge blow, not just in terms of personnel, but a psychological blow. who is succeeding here? it's still on the grand scheme of things, a stalemate. if the rebels, whether that's islamic groups, whether that's i.s.i.s., what we would consider good guys in the conflict, whether they're the ones killing the soldiers. that's the important thing right now. >> now, you look at all the
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interconnectedness here, because its i.s.i.s. forces contributing to pushing back bashar al aguirre assad's forces. it's i.s.i.s. fighting against the iraqi government and picking up territory in iraq. you look, of course, at iran right now. iran has influence in syria. iran has influence in iraq. >> and gaza. >> and gaza. russia has influence over all of this as well. russia engaged in this increasingly hot conflict with ukraine. how much force can the u.s. bring to bear, i don't mean actual troops on the ground, but diplomatic pressure can the u.s. bring in this conflict in ukraine. >> america's diplomatic forces are spread thin. there are only so many places that john kerry can go to at any given point in time. you're dealing here with people who are not interested in hearing what the united states has to say. putin has made it clear over and over again that he does not give a dam about what the u.s. has to say. he's dealing with a domestic audience, he's very popular. every time he thumbs his nose,
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every time he says something nasty about the u.s., his poll numbers go up. he's clearly determined that ukraine must remain within the russian sphere of influence and not in the european or americans. >> you look at this map which madeleine albright and others say is a mess, if you have to pick one place where the u.s. could cause change, could make it, for lack of a better word, better. what would the one place where the united states has the greatest influence be. >> traditionally it's been in israel. right now moving problematic. the israelis and palestinians have been very critical of john kerry over the past few days. you can argue that if both sides are criticizing, he must be doing something right. but it's not leading to a solution. ironically it must be in libya. the two parties there, the two groups that are fighting have actually been communicating with the u.s. we pulled the embassy out. that is a big statement, and because we've got actual
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connections to all the warning sides there, i think we may have some influence there. it might be also the place where we need to focus right now because there is a serious impact on the global economy. >> bobby gauche, keeping an eye on all of it for us. appreciate your help. thanks so much. up next on "new day," it's the last week before congress is set to begin its month-long recess. some call it vacation there's still a long to-do list before they head out. will anything get done before the break? we'll go inside politics next. the ebola outbreak in africa now affecting american aid workers. we'll tell you what we know right now. visine®. get back to normal. but you're not done. capella university can help take your career even further,
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welcome back to "new day." let's get to inside politics now on "new day" with jake tapper in for john king this morning. morning, jake. >> good morning, kate. good morning john. i'm sitting here with julie pace of the associated press and jackie queue cues sin niche. a lot of talk about the cnn poll showing what would happen p the election of 2012 were held now. it indicates better showing for mr. romney than i think he got in 2012. he would win, would clean obama's clocktion, 53% to 43%. probably shouldn't put too much stock in polls like this after a president's sixth year. it does seem to suggest why the democratic congressional campaign committee is using a different obama when it comes to trying to motivate democratic
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voters, get them to the polls in november. take a look. that's not what i'm talking about. i'm talking about the michelle obama thing. can we show that? >> when it comes to the midterm elections this november, we need you to be as passionate and hungry as you were back in 2008 and 2012. in fact, you need to be even more passionate and more hungry to get democrats elected to congress because these elections will be even harder and even closer than those presidential elections. >> usually when i think of michelle obama talking about hunger, she's not talking about hunger for elections. this is using their biggest star. >> absolutely. the main takeaway from the poll you showed isn't necessarily how great romney is. it's how the public feels about the president. michelle obama remains popular with the american public. she keeps enough of a distance from the daily political battles, she has some
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credibility also when she does choose to chime in. you'll see democrats using her more and more in the next couple months before the midterms. >> she has waded in politics a little bit on the school lunch programs, doesn't seem like that has sullied her approval ratings as all. >> not only is she a popular first lady, she's one of the most popular, maintaining about two-thirds of the american people like her. she's particularly popular with democrats in the midterm election where it's all about turnout, probably a good call on their part. >> we shouldn't mention president obama's unpopularity without mentioning that he's not half as unpopular as congress. the new house majority whip, congressman steve scalise of louisiana was put on the hot seat on sunday when it came to the question of whether or not republicans in congress would do something about this huge immigration crisis at the border
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before they break for the august district work period or vacation at the end of this week. take a look. >> will congress delay its recess? >> congress is here working right now. >> i'm asking a question, sir. will you delay? you're not willing to commit to delay your recess? >> we're not even on recess, chris. we're here right now and ready to work. we're going to do our job this week. if the president wants to sit back and continue to point fingers at other people. he's the president of the united states, he could solve this problem today. he's been awol on it. >> this immigration crisis, jackie, how big a deal is this for house republicans? do they need to pass something this week in order to make it look as though they're trying to solve this huge humanitarian crisis. >> the republican plan to deal with this was put forward last week. they can only lose like 16 votes. they're not expected to get a lot of democratic votes on this. they're worried about what happens. if they don't have something and
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they go home, their constituents during town halls probably when they're out and about are going to give it to them. republicans and democratic constituents want to see something done on this. if they leave washington before that happens, look out. >> the white house was pressing for something like five billion to help solve this problem immediately. there was talk in congress of rescinding this law that president bush had signed in 2008 which would give central american children an opportunity to stay in the country and wait until a court heard their case for their legal immigration to make a plea, before being sent back as opposed to what happens to mexican children and canadian children. although i don't know if any canadian children are crossing the border. does it look like that's going to happen even? >> this is a really tricky part of a broader problem, and that's that the white house has sent mixed messages on this. at first they said we definitely want changes to the 2008 law. then when we saw what happened, immigration advocates and
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democrats started pushing back. now they've thrown this matter to diane feinstein, one of the authors of the 2008 bill saying maybe you deal with it and then maybe we can bring democrats together. you have not only democrats versus republicans on this, but a bit of white house versus democrats which complicates the matter further. >> we should point out the 2008 law was passed to help combat sex trafficking among central american children. realistically speaking, do you think anything is going to be done this week by congress on this crisis at the border? >> we all have been around long enough to know that when congress wants to do something, they can act quickly. it is difficult to see how they're going to get something done by the end of the week. this obviously isn't the only thing on congress's plate before this recess. i think it's monday right now. as of now i think it probably looks unlikely. but you never know. >> jackie, you were talking about how these town hall meetings in august could be as bad as the ones many of them faced -- democrats mainly, after the health care law was being
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debated in 2009, 2010. do you think it's easier for members of congress to balk on this as tough as those town hall meetings might be? it's easier to take heat in some ways than to pass a very complicated and difficult law perhaps. >> absolutely. we also could see house republicaning pass something and point fingers at the senate. harry reid is having trouble getting his bill through the senate because he can't get some of the vulnerable democrats to vote for it. he's not getting a lot of republican buy-in. it might be -- not only is it easier, it might be what they have to do. they might have to pass something that's okay with republicans. >> we should talk about one glimmer of hope when it comes to congressional efforts to find compromise. that's been there's been a lot of back and forth between the house veterans affairs committee and the senate veterans affairs committee about this bill. both house and senate have passed separate bills to reform the va. a lot of back and forth between bernie sanders and jeff miller
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of florida. now it looks as though they have achieve some compromise. >> it looks like there might be some progress on this front. a compromise that would basically approve emergency funding for more than 20 veterans hospitals. it would allow some veterans in the system to seek care outside of the va system. this is one of the issues where there's been tremendous outreach and concern, but a real struggle to find a solution. this looks like the possible opening. >> no one has to help veterans. it has to do with the cost of the bill. it still has to do -- the compromise bill has to get past the house and the senate. you're absolutely right, there is progress on this issue. >> has the main problem been the funding, whether $5 billion or $15 billion. >> and how it's implemented. the devil is in the details. one other interesting thing over the weekend, "the new york times" coming out in favor of legalizing marijuana. maureen dowd when she ate the
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marijuana-infused chocolate bar and hit under her covers, i thought that was an argument against marijuana legalization, but apparently not. >> this is an interesting debate playing out in handful of states. in terms of social issues, this is going to be one of the next social issues that's going to be something that's debated at the national level. >> it has to do with prison reform, how many people are incarcerated for these minor drug of finances. and that also goes back to money. so, yes, it's absolutely a social issue, but it's beyond that in terms of what's going on with america's prison system. >> john, mckayla, kate, back to you in new york. >> thanks so much, kate. up next in "new day," two americans working in africa test positive for the deadly ebola virus. how did it happen? plus ohio state's band leader fired after a two-month investigation uncovered serious issues with that program. his attorney joins us live to
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talk about these allegations. that's coming up.
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university. you said it's okay to call you dr. zan. is that all right? >> that's fine. >> it's a concern when we hear about american health care workers getting sickened. particularly of concern, these are two people that have been on the ground in liberia, they've been there since october 2013. they take the utmost precautions in keeping themselves from getting infected. what went wrong? >> this is a really, really difficult place to work on this virus because they would have been wearing double gloves masked with eye protection, thick suits. >> they go through a whole decontamination process. >> exactly. but the virus, it's a catchable virus. it's not that contagious, but they're working in the middle of the epidemic will patients with very high viral loads. >> it is not unusual for doctors when in these areas that have these deadly viruses, it's not unheard of for them to get
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sickened. >> i've worked in lots of these places. actually we don't worry about it that much most of the time. >> you can't, i suppose. >> usually if you're a well nourished westerner, you're not vulnerable to a lot of infections. this one is particularly unpleasant. it's striking that four health care workers are dead in this ep di epidemic. >> at the risk of doing business, these two organizations are exceptionally professional. they're the only two organizations working there. they've got great deal of experience. so i don't think we can say -- i look at these two -- the two people that are infected, i don't think they've been incompetent and not easy impressed. these guys are here rows. >> we need to point out they are going in the heart of the problem and working to make the situation better. the one woman, a missionary with a christian aid group, she's apparently gravely ill, but in isolation. her husband is being monitored.
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so far he hasn't shown any side effects. let's talk about dr. brachbtly. he said, he is said to have noticed he had symptoms and put himself in isolation. doctors make some of the worst patients, don't you? >> it's striking to me he's done this. if you're working in africa you have a low-grade sickness lots of the times. there are infections and things going on all the time. you're not worried about major illnesses. you don't feel well. the fact he quickly diagnosed himself, alerted his colleagues and put himself in isolation is very impressive. >> it's key, isn't it? i understand while this is fatal, the survival rate is much better if it's early treated. what would the treatment look like? >> we don't have a vaccine and we don't have any drugs that work on it at the moment. the treatment is entirely supportive care. the most important aspect is fluid replacement. it's a disease that among other
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things affects your blood vessels, keeping up the intravascular volume to keep blood circulating, that's the most important thing. dealing with clotting problems is the other. this is not a disease that's going to start killing people in new york. it's easy to avoid people with ebola. it's not going to sweep through new york, but we do have to care anti this because we have to care about epidemic disease. we've seen other epidemic diseases here. in general, the global infrastructure for dealing with this needs to be improved. the world health organization, the community of u.n. agencies and international ngos, the cdc all need to work together. this is the kind of epidemic we should be able to get hold of. >> dr. san, it's important to understand this, not have our hand over the panic button bb aware of it. up next on "new day," millions of you have seen the clips online. if you have not -- even if you
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haven't seen them in person. the half-time routines will knock your socks off when you see the ohio state marching band in action. now the ohio state marching band director is off the job. why? we'll speak with his attorney about the scandal that cost him big time. let me get this straight... [ female voice ] yes?
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welcome back, everyone. the ohio state marching band arguably the most famous marching band in the country. videos of their amazing performances, they get millions of hits online every year. now the band director out of a job after a school report found reports of raunchy nicknames, alcohol abuse, and sexually
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suggestive stunts. school investigators say jonathan waters ignored the issues, even feeding into the problem. the question now, can he clear his name? we're going to speak with waters' attorney in a moment. first, look at the story. >> reporter: he's credited with catapulting the ohio state marching band into the national spotlight, but the man behind this much beloved band is out of a job. ♪ on thursday ohio state university announced the firing of its band director, jonathan waters, for allowing an environment conducive to sexual harassment within the band. >> even one instance of harassment or hazing or assault is one too many. though we're not along among campuses across america facing these serious issues, this is our home and our responsibility. >> reporter: an internal investigation uncovered a deep rooted sexualized culture with secret traditions spanning decades, including an annual midnight practice in which band members marched wearing only
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underwear. the report makes accusations about other examples of hazing. new band members were given sexually explicit nicknames and at times were commanded to perform tricks like simulating sex acts. waters' firing now casts a shadow over the best band in the land who shot into the spotlight after this video of their tribute to michael jackson went viral. the band's synchronized formation and innovative routines viewed by millions online. >> the great question i'm always asked is what's next. and that's part of the great creative process around here. >> reporter: waters' entire tenure is now under scrutiny. an audio reporting released by ohio state on sunday appears to capture the now ousted director berating a student who contradicted him during practice. >> you ever do that again, after we have given you a direct order and you're done! do you understand? >> reporter: waters has declined to comment, but his attorney
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says he plans to defend his name. we are now joined by that attorney, david axelrod, the attorney for jonathan waters. thanks so much for being with us. this report issued by ohio state concluded that your client knew or reasonably should have known about sexual harassment that created a hostile environment. how do you respond? david, can you hear me? david, can you hear me? right. david axelrod, the attorney for -- >> i can hear you now. >> okay. let me ask the question one more time. the report by ohio state university concluded your client knew or reasonably should have known about sexual harassment that created a hostile environment. how do you respond to that charge? >> well, the report is deeply flawed. out of 225 band members, over an eight-week period, 60 days, ohio state university managed to interview exactly four,
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including the person who made the complaint and three people to whom she referred the university. out of thousands and thousands of local alumni, the university managed to interview over 60 days only five. the report does not accurately portray the atmosphere at the band is deeply flawed and is result oriented. it should be no surprise to anyone that with that sort of a sample, that sort of a exude sk sample, the report does not accurately portray anything and cannot be relied on for the facts. >> you called it a skewed sample here. raunchy songs is exhibit b in the report. exhibit a is the rookie midterm, this exam which asks band members all sort of raunchy questions. the midnight romp where they march on the field in just their underwear. are you saying your client didn't know this was going on? you're saying the support was so skewed, that they made the facts up? >> well, there are parts of the report i can't agree with or
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disagree with because i had no opportunity to investigate. jonathan was fired wednesday morning and we were handed the report after he was fired. the 92 page report, i might add. he was given an ultimatum to quit or be fired by 5:00 p.m. as you can imagine, that was a pretty busy day. i don't really know about whether a lot of those things did happen or didn't happen. but i can tell you however that jonathan inherited an entrenched culture that had been around for decades and decades. it had been around for decades before jonathan became the band director and even before he was a member of the band. jonathan did everything he possibly could within the short time allowed to end those practices. >> he was the assistant, but he was the assistant band director before he was the band director. he played in the band before he was the assistant band director where he was the band director. he's been around this for a long, long time. if the question is, if this behavior was happening, does he approve or not? >> he certainly doesn't approve of inappropriate behavior and
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did everything he possibly could to end it. you know, he experienced inappropriate behavior as a rookie band member himself. he was deeply affected by it. and that's why as band director he did everything he could to stop anything inappropriate. >> does he wish he had done more? >> well, you know, what he wishes is that he had had time to finish the job. he was the band director for 21 months. he became interim director in october 2012. he became band director in february 2013. these practices have been around for decades and decades. >> again, i understand they have been around for decades. he had been part of them, though, he graduated in 2000, played in the band, then the assistant band director and as you say, the band director himself for the last two years or so. if the band director says don't march on the field in your underwear, would the band march on the field in their underwear? >> ultimately he did say that. and they did not march on the field in their underwear.
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you know, that's something that -- even in that area of the report couldn't get it right. now, again, i haven't had an opportunity to investigate. but yesterday a young woman came forward who was a band member and she explained that the midnight romp was a welcoming -- it was a welcoming practice, it was to bring new people in the band, not mandatory, no one who didn't want to participate didn't have to participate. if you didn't want to march in yourer in we er iunderwear, you to. she wore gym shorts and a tank top. i've gotten e-mail after e-mail from former band members saying the same thing. >> there are been a lot of people coming out in support of the band director and also those who came forward and said they saw things and heard things that they wish they didn't over the years. david axelrod, thank you for joining us. appreciate your time. >> thank you. >> thanks so much. we're at the top of the hour, want to get back to our top story this morning.
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possible progress, i guess, depending where you view it, in the search for peace in the middle east. a top israeli official telling us that israel has slowed its operation only firing on gaza after being fired upon. but a palestinian official is blaming israel's presence in gaza for the continued unrest. israel is still trying to take out those tunnels, stretching from gaza into southern israel. u.n. security council overnight held an emergency meeting calling for an immediate end to the conflict, an immediate cease-fire. but will the words of warning be enough to bring about a lasting cease-fire. martin savidge is live in israel with all of the latest developments. martin, what is the latest from the ground? >> hello, kate. the israeli foreign ministry is saying right now israel is observing what they call an unlimited cease-fire, which sounds very good, except it is also a bit hard to decipher exactly what it means. israel saying it will only fire
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back when fired upon and only firing back at where it was fired upon, but continuing other operations that is not likely to please hamas one bit. after a weekend of high hopes, we're back to dashed dreams. early this morning, the united nations security council convening in an emergency meeting calling for a renewed cease-fire that would allow the delivery of urgently needed assistance into gaza. >> whoa. >> but neither side accepted. both agreeing to only a few hours of peace, and rejecting previous deals for a truce. >> we had a cease-fire, they violated it, and now they're violating their own cease-fire. obviously we'll take whatever action is necessary to protect our people. >> reporter: the israeli military detonating explosives in two tunnels that they say hamas uses to get fighters into israel. secretary of state john kerry heading home, empty handed, after six days of exhaustive diplomatic meetings. on sunday, president obama spoke
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with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu by phone, condemning attacks from hamas against israel and also stressing the need for an immediate cease-fire. outrage continues to grow over the number of civilians caught in the cross fire, including grade schoolchildren, injured in thursday's mortar strike at the united nations building which was being used as a shelter for gaza families. israel defense forces confirm a single errant mortar landed in the courtyard of the school, but they deny responsibility for any deaths, pointing to their footage of the strike and claiming the courtyard was empty at the time of the attack. officials for the u.n. and the palestinian government report 16 people were killed, and hundreds wounded. a cnn team visited the shelter several hours after the attack and found evidence of badly injured civilians. the death toll in gaza continues to rise. it stands at 1,032, most of those are civilians. the israeli death toll also rises, 43 israeli soldiers, the
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most killed in any operation in some time. it is also three civilians in israel have been killed as well, kate. so both sides appear to be just digging in. >> difficult to decipher what really is happening on the ground, martin. that's why you're there. thank you very much. martin savidge on the ground for us. more breaking news from ukraine. international inspection team that was trying to get to the site of the mh-17 wreckage was turned back. a statement from the dutch led team says no safe passage to that site was possible because of the intense fighting in the rebel held area. this comes as russia has been firing back at critics denying any role in the mh-17 disaster or the chaos right now reigning in eastern ukraine. despite photos that show russia launching attacks into ukraine. cnn's matthew chance live in kharkiv right now with more. good morning, matthew. >> right, it was possible news to the international
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investigators trying to get to the mh-17 crash site for the second day in a row. they have attempted to -- through the fierce fighting that is under way in that rebel-controlled area. and for a second day in a row -- they have failed to arrive. after a weekend of intensive fighting between ukrainian government forces and pro-russian rebels, the international investigation into the mh-17 crash had been brought to a virtual stand still. by the ukrainian town, pummeled with rockets, leaving at least 13 people dead and two children, both sides blaming each other for the bloodshed. elsewhere too, violence blocking access to the site, turning away dozens of dutch and australian forensic experts here to collect human remains and evidence from the wreckage. but government forces confirmed they are now fighting to retake areas near the wreckage, despite
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earlier assurances of a cease-fire. meanwhile, diplomatic pressure on russia is being ratcheted up. u.s. secretary of state john kerry urging russia's foreign minister to cut off the flow of weapons into ukraine. the u.s. state department also releasing satellite images, purportedly showing russian forces firing rocket launches and using artillery strikes on ukrainian military forces across the border. but sergey lavrov says there have been no unlawful border crossings, inviting osc monitors to see for themselves. the fighting in this region intensifies, there seems no letup either to the war of words. dutch investigators say they're not giving up on their mission to get to the crash site. they need to repatriate the bodies they haven't found yet and get clues to find clarity on what happened to missing flight -- the crash flight of mh-17. >> got to get to that site. matthew chance for us in eastern ukraine, thanks so much. up next, we're going to dive
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welcome back to "new day." we have been covering the rage g ing crisis overseas. right now how does the u.s. respond to everything that is going on? where do things stand today? there are a lot of moving parts. let's get the answers from the state department, the state department spokesperson jen saki. great to see you. thank you for coming in. >> my pleasure. >> a lot to get to. let's start with what's going on in israel right now between israel and hamas. a spokesperson for the israeli foreign ministry told me this morning that israel is currently observing as he described it an unlimited cease-fire, that they're not taking any more offensive actions. is that what the state department sees on the ground? >> well, kate, let me first say that a week ago before secretary kerry went to the region, we weren't talking about temporary cease-fires and there wasn't enough engagement with the
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parties. what we're looking at right now, what we're trying to focus on is short-term cease-fires that can build on each other. the secretary has been closely engaged with prime minister netanyahu, with the israelis, and encouraging them to agree to short-term cease-fires. we are encouraged by this statement and we'll see what happens over the course of the day. >> do you see a -- an unlimited cease-fire happening right now on the ground? >> that is our goal. but it is no question the situation open the ground not just what is happening with the rocket fire, but also what is happening politically is incredibly challenging. there is deep mistrust that goes back for years with the parties. that's why we have been so engaged with not only the israelis and president abbas, but with the egyptians, with the qataris with the turks because there needs to be an international effort to push for a cease-fire. and you're seeing that really build at this point in time. >> many view the work that the secretary of state john kerry
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left without being able to reach any real progress, that his efforts up to this point failed, though he spent quite some time there trying to broker a solution. why have his efforts not worked to end this conflict? >> well, kate, two reasons. one is you've seen the international community build support around a cease-fire, calling for the parties to agree to that over the course of the last several days. that's grown just in the last couple of days, the secretary was traveling, he was in paris, he stood with the u.n. he stood with the arab league. he stood with a range of countries that are all putting this pressure on. second is we're seeing short-term cease-fires, there is more work we need to do. and the parties need to take that action. we need israel, we need hamas to take that action. but we have made progress from where we were a week ago. we need to do more from here. >> is that now the new measure of success from the viewpoint of the state department, just 24 or 12 hour cease-fire, the short-term cease-fires are what the state department views as
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success right now? >> well, kate, historically what happened in past cease-fires is that the short-term cease-fires have built on each other. what we want are measures of success, an end to the violence. it will be seeing an end to civilians being killed, seeing an end to mothers mourning their children, seeing an end to the fear and the bloodshed that we're seeing in the region. >> if there is a cease-fire happening or not, israel says they're not taking part in any offensive actions, only responding if rockets are fired on them. but hamas seems to believe that a cease-fire is not happening. we were speaking with a palestinian -- the palestinian negotiator earlier and he says that israel is not telling the truth, that they still have offensive action going on the ground because troops are still on the ground in gaza. >> well, kate, there are some longer term issues here that are not going to be resolved in a short-term cease-fire. what our goal is here is to have a pause in the violence for long enough to have a negotiation about those tough issues. the egyptians have offered to host that.
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and we're encouraging both sides to participate in that. and we absolutely agree that these are issues that are not going to be resolved over the course of a couple of hours. but we need to keep at it and keep working to have a longer term in the pause in violence. >> one big issue that i think is an important one to take on today is the issue of the tunnels. israeli official told me this morning that they have uncovered now some 36 tunnels going from gaza into southern israel. does secretary kerry, does the state department support israeli continue effort to take out the tunnels even if it means stepped up ground operations? >> we recognize the threat that the tunnels pose to the israeli people. i can't imagine waking up every morning and fearing a member of a terrorist organization is going to come through a tunnel into your city. that's what they're facing. they're addressing it. there is no technological fix to this, like with the iron dome that is able to push back on rocket attacks. and they're working to address it. we think that can be done
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without combat and without escalating ground operations. >> has enough already been done in taking out those tunnels from the state department's view? >> well, look, it is the israelis view it hasn't been done, that there hasn't been enough done yet. this is one of those issues that needs to be discussed as a part of this process and part of this negotiation. but we do recognize the threat that is posed to israel from access that comes through the tunnels. >> if i can turn our focus and turn our attention to the situation that is going on the ground in ukraine, we just heard this morning that investigation team was turned back because of explosions and because of continued violence. international monitors, the same thing we're told has happened to them. it seems the situation could quickly return to being out of control. what is the view from the state department? what is going on there right now? >> well, our view, kate, is that international monitors, the investigation team, absolutely needs to have access to the site. the security situation on the ground is incredibly challenging
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as you've seen. we have been working with counterparts from other countries around the world including the dutch, including the australians, and including the u.n. to put together an international police force to better guard this area. but i think we should not forget what the root cause of this here, and that's the russian separatists, their aggressive action and the actions they have taken to take over and this part of ukraine. that's how we reach this point we're at now. >> but for any part that ukrainian government has in this fighting, they believe they want to start retaking control of this area. do you think that most immediately the fighting should stop so the investigation and the monitors can get the -- the investigators and monitors can get in. is that what the state department is calling for? >> we certainly support a cease-fire as we long have, and one that would be monitored through the osce and international governing bodies. however, the russians have mastered the art of saying one thing and doing another. and they have called for
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cease-fires, they have said they abide by them, they're even claiming now they have nothing to do with the weapons. and we know that the opposite is true. so the challenge is we can't have a unilateral cease-fire where the separatists are not abiding by it. that's what we have seen time and time again. >> let me ask you about the part of the russians. the foreign minister sergey lavrov made it clear that the russians say there has not been evidence presented that shows russian involvement there. is more evidence needs to presented? what is secretary kerry saying to sergey lavrov in the meetings since it seems like they're looking at two different realities. >> secretary kerry spoke with lavrov yesterday and made clear to him that the notion that the russians have nothing to do with what is happening with the separatists, with the action, the violence that we have seen in eastern ukraine is just not credible. we know the russians are funding, supporting, supplying the separatists and that's how we have reached this point. we have put out a range of evidence and a preponderance of
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evidence including satellite images just yesterday about artillery coming over from the russian border. so i think, again, this is a case where the russians are hoping they're going to claim they have no engagement or involvement with this, when the facts and the evidence really says the opposite. >> jen, one final point, i want to get your take, also this morning, sergey lavrov said the sanctions that the united states and the european allies would be putting on russia, that they're not going to work. he essentially said they're not really worried about it, the russian economy can handle it. is that a problem? >> well, there is no evidence of that in the russian economic data, including downward spiral of their growth rate, including $100 billion in capital flow out of the country. we're seeing serious impact of just the sanctions we have put in place to date, the europeans want to do more. we expect they'll do more. question for the russians is, do they care about the economy and how it is impacting their people. are they just going to be in denial about what impact these sanctions are having? >> just one final question, and
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years ago. happening today, we expect the chairman of the house and senate veterans affairs committees to reveal details of a deal to reform the va health system. the agreement is expected to address short and long-term needs of the agency following the wait list scandal, exposed by cnn. both chambers need to approve the deal with congress' summer recess days away. closing arguments begin today in donald sterling's suit to block the sale of the l.a. clippers. his wife shelly claims donald is mentally incapacitated and she is trying to sell the team for $2 billion. a judge could rule on the case as early as tomorrow. donald sterling also sued the nba, trying to stop that sale initiated after his racist comments became public. so some developments there we'll be watching here at cnn for sure. >> absolutely. thanks so much. coming up next on "new day," two tragedies to tell you about on american beaches. a very rare, so unusual lightning storm in california,
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welcome back to "new day." beaches on the east and west coast the site of tragedies on sunday. a rare lightning storm hit the california coast killing one and injuring at least a dozen others.
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on florida's gulf coast, a family beach outing turned tragic. a father was killed and his daughter badly hurt when they were hit by this plane as it made an emergency landing. alina machado has more. >> this is an awful story, and something that really gives you reason to pause. just think about it, this man and his daughter were going on the beach for a walk, something we have all done at some point, when the unthinkable happened. a young father and his daughter hit by a small plane while walking on a beach in venice, florida. >> the dad looked like in bad condition. >> reporter: the pilot of the plane forced to make an emergency landing after sending a distress signal to authorities. >> definitely not something you expect going on the beach, having fun with your family and just terrible to have something happen like that. >> reporter: the man struck on the beach identified by authorities as 36-year-old
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killed on the scene, his daughter said to be in critt well condition. the pilot and the passenger in the plane uninjured in the crash. >> that's got to be devastating and prayer are with them in this time. >> reporter: the piper cherokee is on the sand feet away from the ocean, the nose pointed down, its front landing gear destroyed. according to local reports, preliminary evidence suggests the plane may have lost power, but authorities are still looking into what caused the fatal crash. >> we don't know what caused the crash, but the ntsb is en route to venice and will investigate fully. >> we're told this man was from georgia, in terms of how long this investigation will take, we just don't know yet. john and kate? >> our hearts go out to that family. alina machado, thanks so much. up next, investigators turned away from the flight 17 crash site in ukraine as more
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time for the five things you need to know for your "new day." a top israeli official says ill real is only firing on hamas militants in gaza when they're fired upon first. but a palestinian official says israel needs to stop its work on the ground, demolishing tunnels. an mh-17 investigation team had to turn back before reaching the crash site in eastern ukraine. officials say no safe passage was possible because of intense fighting on the ground. a severe storm turned deadly along the california coast, a young man killed by a lightning strike at venice beach. at least a dozen others were also injured. the federal corruption trial
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begins today for former virginia governor bob mcdonald. he and his wife are accused of accepting cash and gifts in exchange for promoting a supporter's business. and a pro immigration group plans to rally outside the white house today. united we dream will call on president obama to push relief for parents of young migrants. congress has just days to act before their summer recess. we update the five things to know so visit cnn.com for the very latest. more on the breaking news from ukraine. we told you about a team of investigators that had been trying to reach the mh-17 crash site in eastern ukraine. they had to turn back. cnn's nick paton walsh was part of the press contingent traveling with them before it was stopped. he joins us now live. we have been speaking to you all morning as those explosions and the smoke rising from that area, that team did not make it to where it was going. >> they did not, john. i'm standing outside the hotel
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where some of them are based, their vehicles visible in the background behind me. palpable frustration and anger among some of tinspection mission. have been talking to the head of the osce saying they're going to try again tomorrow, they got assurances from both sides they'll be able to pass through. they were still in rebel health territo held territory, a kilometer into it. and the separatists said, look, it is too dangerous here. the ground shook from the volume of heavy artillery around them. they had to turn back. they're here. more talks going on. i hope they will be able to have another go tomorrow, but bear in mind now the safety looks increasingly precarious for this mission. we ourselves heard very heavy rocket fire, some landing very close to us. we had to get out of there very quickly. the fear being this is continually dragging out the moment when investigators can
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get to the site, get to personal belongings, get to sadly the human remains that may still be there, the wreckage, begin looking at that properly too now. it seems according to the ukrainian government they're moving actively to retake the towns around the crash site, perhaps looking to -- ensure access granted to them is in fact under ukrainian government auspices. that's just delaying the moment when the inspectors can get there. we're hearing now, this feeling, the town under pressure. and there are more dangers ahead. >> the forces made prom tises i would be safe enough to travel. nick paton walsh live for us in donetsk, thanks so much. next up for us on "new day," the trial resumes today for detroit man who gunned down a teenager on his porch. was he in danger?
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well, self-defense or murder? that really is kind of the core question at the -- as the so-called front porch shooting trial resumes this morning. theodore wafer claims he shot 19-year-old renisha mcbride on his detroit area porch after he heard banging on the door. but prosecutors say he said he did it, it was an accident. he said it was self-defense. but prosecutors say the unarmed teenager wasn't a threat at all. let's examine this.
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mark geragos, cnn legal analyst and defense attorney joining us. and sunny hostin, former federal prosecutor. i want to get both of your takes on this. i -- i am confused by all of this. i really am. at its most basic, let me ask you first, sunny, he says, first, it was an accident. he said also that he didn't know his gun was loaded. >> sure. >> and now he's claiming self-defense. are these conflicting? >> i think they are. i will tell you, when i first started looking at this case and during opening statements we heard such different stories, we heard the prosecution say, this was really unreasonable and then we heard a defense sort of spin on this, which i'm sure mark will talk about, which was when you are in your home, you need to feel safe, if you feel there is a home invasion going on, you have the ability to protect yourself. and so i thought, well, that actually -- i see mark shaking his head -- that stull lactuall sounded pretty good to me. second day of testimony, no.
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now it doesn't make sense. first he tells police, this was an accident, didn't know the gun was loaded. we heard on the second day of testimony that he was inside of his home, instead of just remaining inside of his home, he actually opens up the front door, shoots her in the face with the shotgun, through the screen door. if those indeed are the facts of this case, then i say he is certainly, certainly not -- he was not acting in self-defense. and i think the prosecution has a very, very strong case of murder here. >> mark, jump in. how does the defense make the case he was threatened? he was inside his home. >> well, that's exactly it. he was inside of his home. we have something called the castle doctrine which is if you're in your home, it is your castle, you can protect it. frankly i think the prosecution's got a tough road to go on this. because most people are going to say if i'm in my house, somebody is on my porch, they're banging, they have got no reason to be there, it is reasonable that i'm
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going to be able to defend myself. and i don't think that they're going to be able to at the end of the day in closing arguments say, well, oh, he orchestrated this, or he decided to just wake up and murder somebody on his fro front porch. what was she doing on the front porch. why was she there banging on the doors? all of those things -- you don't have to sit and ask questions when somebody is banging on the door and you think they're trying to break into your house. >> this is where mark goes wrong. bottom line is i think -- i think a jury is going to listen to this, and they're going to think what would i do, what would the reasonable person do if i am in my home. i'm not going to open up the door and look for trouble. the reasonable thing to do is stay within the sanctity of your home, not be the aggressor, not be the person -- you can't guess there is a possible home invasion going on. >> you're sitting in your home, somebody's banging on the door,
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let me just explain to you that we had this discussion before -- >> here we go. >> race is going to play a factor in this case. and that's one of the reasons the prosecution was objecting to the peremptories, you have a split in the jury. i would not be surprised in the least to see a hung jury in this case. >> i think he has something there. >> you think race will play a factor? >> i think race will play a factor. it was clear during voir dire, questioning jurors about this case, race came up. there are four african-americans on this jury. the bottom line is the evidence is a bit conflicting as to whether or not he knew her race. he says he saw a shadowy figure. afterwards he told the police this was a neighbor girl, i didn't recognize her. in my mind there is no question when he opened up that door he saw a black woman and chose to fire. did he then sort of react upon
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his biases and think if it is a black woman, she must be invading my home. if there were a woman that looked like you, kate, perhaps she would still be alive. i do think in that instance race is going to be a crucial factor here. >> in all of this, one thing i haven't heard you talk about is how the defense has been bringing up that this was also part of the problem here is shoddy investigation work. why is the defense talking about that? is that -- what strategy is that, mark? >> that's mark's strategy. >> it is clear -- it is clear in this case that they didn't exactly do a bangup job of investigating this case. and you want to make sure that the jury understands that, that they decided that they had an agenda or they were going to try to fit -- back fill the facts as they saw them. if that's the case, that's something the jury should know about, the jury needs to know whether or not they came here and followed the facts or whether they fit the facts into the theory that they had
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pre-existing. >> we were talking to jeffrey toobin about this earlier. it comes down to that area in the law of is there a reasonable fear? you talk about also a reasonable person. what do you think from the perspective of the prosecution, what does the prosecution need to do here if mark thinks the defense has a strong case? >> i think the prosecution is doing what the prosecution needs to do, which is put out there what is unreasonable. the fact that the people was working on that door. the fact that he was inside of his home, the fact that he didn't call 911 until after he shot her. i think those are crucial elements because any reasonable person put in that situation is going to say, you know what, if i'm in my home and hear banging -- >> there are other steps to take. >> oom i'm going to call 911. that is going to resonate with the jury, going to resonate with everyone. >> the thing we all -- >> sunny, she's so naive. >> there he goes. >> you're in your house, you're in your house, sunny, you don't have to sit and call 911 when
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somebody is banging down your door. >> of course you do. that's why you have police officers. >> it is hardly -- this is hardly a murder case. this is at worst some kind of a manslaughter or lesser. it is never going to be a murder. >> that's why mark geragos is one of the best defense attorneys out there, right? >> and why you two are such good friends, despite the fact you rarely agree on everything. that's why we love you. mark geragos, sunny hostin, thanks so much. it is interesting and it could likely set precedent going forward. why it is important even beyond the unusual nature of this case. coming up next on "new day," lawmakers up against the clock as they consider immigration reform before a month long recess. we're going to ask white house officials anything can get done, she believes anything can get done before the end of the week. in new york state, we're changing the way we do business, with startup ny. we've created tax free zones throughout the state. and startup ny companies will be investing hundreds of millions of dollars in jobs and infrastructure. thanks to startup ny, businesses can operate tax free for 10 years.
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maybe $1.5 billion, not the $4 billion the white house is looking for, but $1.5 billion. if something like that gets to the president's desk, would he sign it? >> well, so the house is considering immigration reform. we have been trying to get that done for five years and they have taken it off the table. we're showing signs of making progress, people are returning to central america, they have gotten the message there is no free pass if they come to the united states. but really in order to eventual fully get the job done we need resources. that's what this debate is about. i'm sorry to say the house of representatives may be bogging this debate down with things that are not related getting the job done. we have told folks we are processing cases more quickly, we're hearing humanitarian claims and sending people back more quickly. that's having impact. the debate this week is about making sure we have the resources to get this job done and the house of representatives may be slowing things down. >> less than $4 billion, $1.5
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billion, to $2 billion, would the president sign something like that? >> well, the most important thing is that we get, again, resources to make sure we can deliver on the commitments that we have made to process cases more quickly, return people more quickly, but the thing that really worries me about the process in the house is that republicans are talking about adding a lot of weight to this bill, they're not just talking about funding, but talking about things which really don't help us get this job done. for example, there is a conversation about repealing the deferred action program which affects dreamers, a completely different population, unrelated to the situation. that sounds more like an ideological debate than an effort to get the job done here. >> they're talking about the 2008 provision signed by president george w. bush that does allow for a greater time period and processing, immigrants who come from noncontinuous nations. that irsayi the white house seemed to hint it was willing to accept a change in that law.
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are you currently willing to accept the change in that law? >> we are absolutely interested. we wrote to the speaker weeks ago to say we want to work with congress. the problem is that the proposal that is before the congress right now is too restrictive, sets arbitrary deadlines, could make the process worse. here's what we know. the numbers are going down. people in central america are getting the message there is no free pass in the united states. in order to make sure we can deliver on our commitments, on what we are communicating in central america, the most important thing we need in short order is resources. that's the debate we need in the congress. we shouldn't be bogging it down with other issues. >> let's talk about the message they're getting in central america now. you had a visit from central american leaders last week, including the president of honduras, who told time magazine that one of the problems now is what he calls a lack of clarity of u.s. immigration policy. this sense in central america that if you come to the united states, you can stay here. >> and we turned that completely around as evidence by the coverage in the washington post
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today and wall street journal last week among others. the president has been communicating very clearly that the door is not open to folks. these are smugglers essentially marketing to people this notion that if you come to the united states, you can stay, that is false. we have been communicating this and that message is getting received in central america, including the conversation that the president had with the central american president on friday. >> do you think it wasn't clear before? >> what we do know is the reason this year is different from previous years is because smugglers have been marketing this false notion that there is some kind of new policy in the united states that allows people to stay, that has never been true. smugglers are exploiting people and making a whole lot of money by exploiting the vulnerabilities. so we have been very clearly communicating that while we will process humanitarian claims, people who do not have the ability to stay in the united states will be returned and we have been returning people. >> let's talk about the idea of returning people. george will, a conservative
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commentator, said this over the weekend. he said the united states should tell the immigrant children now here, welcome to america, you're going it go to school, get a job, and become americans. george will says simply let's stop arguing about this, let them stay. do you think they all should stay? >> so those who have humanitarian claim claims, our provide for a mechanism for them to stay. it is incredibly important in order to forestall and even bigger humanitarian situation than the one we have been facing this summer to communicate very clearly what the smugglers are telling you is wrong. there is no free pass. the border is not open in the united states. while we will honor humanitarian claims, the majority of cases are unlikely to qualify and the people who get on the other side of the process and removable will be removed. we need to do that because that's the law. we also need to do that in order to communicate a clear message in central america. what they're telling you is wrong. don't put your child in that situation. it is incredibly dangerous. >> i want to have you clarify one point you keep making here. you keep saying the majority of
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cases, they will not be allowed to stay. just to be clear, the white house does not believe that a majority of these cases, particularly children, you don't believe that a majority of them should qualify as refugees. you think they're here as illegal undocumented immigrants that should all go home? >> the law provides for humanitarian relief for people who can get political asylum, for children who have special situations. we're going to honor those claims, we're making sure to adjudicate them properly. but the bulk of the situation here is adults who are bringing children and while we hear their cases, once they're on the other side of the cases, many of those folks, most of the folks end up being removable, our job is to make sure they're removed and we're working with the countries in south america to do that in a way that allows them to be resettled properly. we're working on reintegration centers for the people going back. the bottom line is this, the border is not open to central americans. and we have to make sure we apply the law properly and we need the resources in order to
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do that job, with the humanity it deserves and also by applying the law. the debate is about resources, they need to get that done before they leave for the august recess. >> let's see if they do get it done. cecelia munoz, thank you so much. coming up, more on to breaking stories we're following all morning, the temporary truce breaks down in the middle east. and investigators being turned away from the flight 17 crash site. we're live with those stories ahead. dust irritating your eye? (singing) ♪ visine® gives your eyes relief in seconds. visine®. get back to normal.
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