we're going to allow one to freely operate because there might be another one that's worse. that's a loser from the start. what they need to do is demilitarize the gaza strip. part of that means that you have to deal a decisive blow to hamas and its military wing. pure and simple. palestinian authority can fill in. other organizations could fill in. but when you don't go too far in destroying a terrorist organization, boy, that really concerns me that maybe they don't fully understand the sophistication of hamas and who its allies are in iran and other places. >> was the israeli government says their ultimate goal so to demilitarize the gaza strip. can that be achieved through diplomatic means or only through military means? >> well you never ever want to give up on the diplomatic solution. but the problem is they've had

plenty of opportunities to do that. think of all of the money that they should have spent on getting people connected to water in the gaza, 20% of the population isn't even connected to a water source. 90% of the water that they get is not up to western standards. all of the money that went there, a lot of that money went into tunnels, missiles and weapons systems. it just doesn't seem that they want that part of the equation. i don't know. i think it's very difficult ff i think in order to get them to negotiation you have to damage the military wing of hamas to the point where they're willing to sit down and talk about demill that rye zags. they're not going to give up their rockets. we've seen that in other excursions web especially between gaza and israel. we're going to have the to have a decisive military victory in

order to get them to negotiate. >> so when the obama administration tells the iz rally government go ahead and accept an unconditional cease-fire, a lot of israelis don't want to do that because they want to finish what they see as a threat to israel. you say? >> i think that's right. you shouldn't ask israel to give up on what they call the counter tunnels. i think there are over 35 that the israelis have found and are deal with. they need to continue with that detunnelling or the counter-tunnel kind of operation in order to have a decure border. at the same time there are certain logistic centers for the manufacturer of these weapons. they ought to have the ability to dismantle those. an immediate cease-fire without

having the difficult to continue on the counter-tunnelling is a serious mistake and that's why israel won't take it. i don't know why they have this conversation. those are the two ways yous g get to an agreement. the motion that you have to stop doing what you're doing when over 2,000 missiles have landed or been fired into israel, it doesn't meet the reality on the ground and the threat that israel is under right now. >> mike rogers is the chairman of the house committee. thank you for joining us. >> thanks, wolf. >> israeli flares continue being illuminated over the skies of gaza city. we hear the pounding of artillery as well. you hear the drones. they're going through the skies over gaza city right now as well. much more of the breaking news coverage right after this. hey there, i just got my bill,

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we're coming to you live from jerusalem. you're leeking at live pictures from gaza city. we've seen flares for nearly two hours now. those would be israeli flaers. we've heard the explosions and the gun fire. you hear the buzzing sound,

those are israeli drones flying over gaza city. listen to this. presumably those drones are going to continue flying. they're looking at images and other drones have missiles that could be launched at the same time. all of this happening for the pros tekt of the cease-fire remains grim. this's a growing force of critics out there blaming the man at the center of the negotiations, the u.s. secretary of state john kerry. we've been following all of the diplomatic tensions right now include some serious tensions between the u.s. and israel. >> he's prepared for a lengthy campaign suggesting that israel is gearing up for a longer campaign as hopes weaken for a

cease-fire. on the streets of new york today, a big show of support for israel but behind the scenes tensions are high as secretary of state john kerry struggles to secure a cease-fire. >> any process to resolve the crisis in gaza in a lasting and meaningful way must lead to the disarmament of hamas and all terrorists groups. >> but after a week of shubt l diplomacy, kerry is under fire. the headline in israel's leading newspaper reads "reckless kerry risks causing escalation." his attempts to bring them into the negotiations, catastrophic.

pushback from the white house was swift and strong. >> john kerry, on maf of the united states, has been working ever ever step of the way with israel in support of our shared interests. >> israel's ambassador played down the appearance of a rift. >> criticism of secretary kerry is unwarranted. >> hamas leader gave a nod to kerry's diplomatic efforts in an interview with charlie rose. >> mr. kerry months ago tried to find a window through the negotiations in order to meet our target, to reach our state. >> on monday, prime minister netanyahu vowed operations would continue until the tunnels from gaza into israel were destroyed. he told cnn's candy crowley he was opening to easing conditions in gaza but only if hamas was

unarmed. >> you can't get the relief without is short demileterization. >> elise, thanks very much. i want to show the viewers what's going on over gaza city right now. we've been showing these images for the past nearly two hours. israeli flares have been illuminating the skies. you hear the sounds of israeli drones flying over gaza city right now. you see a lot of smoke, a lack of pow near the major parts of gaza city right now.

i don't know if the power generators have stopped working or if there are objections to kill some of the power in gaza city. what do you think -- you know, i'm here, in israel. the criticism of john kerry, if you read the israeli newspapers, is very intense, thinking he went way too far in accepting some of the hamas demands for a cease-fire. what do you say? >> i'm frankly flabbergasted by the piling on here. secretary kerry was doing his very best to achieve what we all understand israel wants, which is an end to the rocket fire. and a humanitarian cease fire that could lead to a negotiation in cairo that could lead to the disarmament that prime minister

netanyahu has called for. he worked with the two parties had influence on the hamas. they were in alignment with the muslim brotherhood, some kind of rookie mistake. that was an attempt to get hamas to stop firing the rockets by working with the two parties that had some influence on them. this was not to undermine the egyptian initiative but to make it workable. i think that what the ambassador said is right. this is exaggerated an piling on and they should back off and express appreciation for the efforts that the secretary of state has been undertaking on their behalf. >> because the argument that you hear in israel, i've heard it now myself from several high ranking israeli officials is that kerry went too far -- instead of getting turkey and

cutter to accept the egyptian proposal as is, he started accepting what turkey and cutter wanted, in fact undermining the egyptian proposal which the israelis accepted. >> the people, all i can say is that they should read the kerry proposal which has now been leaked and compare it with the egyptian initiative and they will find that there is no significant difference between the two. it's an absurdity to argue that was undermining the egyptian initiative. it was a way to operationize the egyptian initiative to stop the bloodshed, israeli blood as well as palestinian blood being shed. >> what do you make of the fact that it looks like hamas and the palestinian authority have been brought closer together because of all of the bloodshed.

how will that impact if in fact there is another peace process. how does that impact the peace process you worked so hard for a year to get off the ground. you made a little progress and then all of the sudden it totally collapsed. >> we've got to start with first thing first, to get the cease-fire in gaza and then some kind of permanent arrangement in gaza that puts the palestinian authority back in control there. hamas, through this reconciliation agreement just before the gaza conflict broke out agreed that the palestinian authority should take control. that's the first step. in the context of putting the palestinian thrt back in control, there needs to be the principle of one government. and that means that not just hamas but all of the militias in gaza will have to disarm and

that needs to take place in the context of a broader process of opening gaza and ensuring that there's international support for the reconstruction of gaza. so it's kind of a three-point package that needs to be negotiated buns we have a cease-fire in place. if that can be fire, and it seems a long way off tonight. the palestinian authority in gaza, as hamas originally agreed, then it can become possible to look at the idea of resuming the negotiations this time with a unified palestinian authority with west bank and gaza, with it respecting the west bank and gaza. and that would in fact strengthen the ability to deal with the palestinians and get a meaningful agreement. >> well, let's see if that can emerge from what clearly looks

like a disaster happening right now. thanks very much. we're live here in jerusalem. but right now flares are illuminating the skies over gaza city. you also hear the buzzing sound. those are israeli drones flying over gaza city. listen carefully for a second. they continue flying over gaza city. there are sbn explosions now for nearly two hours. much more of the breaking news coverage right after this. when folks think about what they get from alaska, they think salmon and energy. but the energy bp produces up here creates something else as well: jobs all over america. engineering and innovation jobs. advanced safety systems & technology. shipping and manufacturing. across the united states, bp supports more than a quarter million jobs. when we set up operation in one part of the country, people in other parts go to work.

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at gunfire or flair illuminating the skies. we hear the sound of drones over gaza city. update our viewers. >> yeah, there is an update for you. illumination rounds continue to fall around gaza city and the drones have continued to sound loud overhead. that seems to me to be an indication that illumination round are popped up into the night sky so those drones could have a good look of what is going on down below. remember there is no moon at all tonight and that is why the drones and the cameras on their drones and off in the distance those explosions going up now from f-16 fighter bombers. >> stand by. take a quick break. more of the special coverage right after this. i need to speak with your fraud resolution department. ugh, we don't have that. what should i tell him? just make that super annoying modem noise... (shuuuuuuuh....zzzzzzzz...de ee...dong...shuuuhh...)

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>> live here in jerusalem, but we're watching the scenes of explosions and gunfire in gaza right now. after the fighting in ukraine, seems like there are fires raging across the globe. former secretary of state madeleine albright said the world is a mess but is that really the case. tom foreman is joining us in washington. put this into some sort of perspective for us. >> if you look at the map, it is easy to see the u.s. government is dealing with hot spots with no indication any of them are cooling. we start with israel in gaza. more than a thousand people died since the current clash began in early july. most of them palestinians and according to the u.n. most of

them civilians. no matter how that came about. right next door we look at syria. in the third war of civil war. 150,000 killed. white house says the government troops using chemical weapons and yet president ba shir assad moving in last week. islamic stays spanning parts of iraq and syria. the clashes between isis and iraqi government leaving more than 5500 dead and 1.2 million driven from their homes. in libya, worst fighting since 2011 revolution is under way, u.s. just evacuated the embassy. other countries, powerful militias. 97 people killed in just two weeks and of course, up in the ukraine, as we know, fighting raging on.

more than 1100 dead. as if all of that is not enough, remember, iran and north korea are the main concerns, north korea threatening it nuke the white house. wolf? >> sound like a lot going on right now and mostly bad. that's it for me. thanks for watching p. i'm wolf blitzer in jerusalem. erin burnett "outfront" start right now. >> next, breaking news. explosions and gunfire in gaza at this hour. deadly day in the middle east overnight. continuing we are live in gaza city tonight. black box recorders, officials say they now know what happened to the plane before it crashed. and two americans infected with the deadly ebola virus, we will hear what happened tonight. let's go "outfront."