have visited the crash site of mh-17. they refuse to believe their daughter died in the crash, they came from australia all the way to donetsk ukraine. they wanted so honor their daughter whoen watted to be an astronaut and was already an engineer. our hearts go out to them tonight. anderson is next. good evening, thanks for joining us. a lot going on tonight, we have breaking news and something in new events. hostilities continuing as we speak with explosions tonight in gaza, the true war aims at each side coming into focus. you'll hear tonight in our special extended two hour edition of 360, the man who speaks for israel's prime minister, who says the aim is now to demilitarize gaza. his boss going on television

today warning israelis to prepare for a protracted campaign. >> inside as well tonight, into what hamas wants and why neither side has much incentive to end the fighting. today in addition to activity that continued into the night a rocket hit the southern israeli city, and something hit a palestinian hospital. carl penhold was at the hospital and joins us tonight with that and the latest. a lot of explosions and flairs, what's happening right now in gaza? >> reporter: right now, anderson, what is happening, a lot of illumenati atioation fla being fired. they're drifting down over gaza city, the illumenation flairs are to light the way so drones can spot activity on the ground. over the last 45 minutes now,

we've heard f-16 fighter jets screaming overhead, bombing targets, we've also heard artillery slamming into targets in gaza city. right now, we're hearing that a mosque has been targeted. homes belonging to some senior hamas officials are being targeted right now. and so far in the last hour or so, 18 people have been killed in these renewed israeli air strikes. >> other explosions, ten people died, some children. israelis and hamas blame the other for what happened. what did you learn? >> what i did learn is beyond the excuses, beyond the explanations of the warring sides i learned the name of one of the little boys that died today. his name is mohammed and i walked down the alley where he lived and said one of his little

friends, did you know mohammed? sure i did. tell me about him. he was great at math, top of his class, and he loved barcelona football club, he thought messi was the greatest player in the world. she said messi was the best player in the world and an amazing striker according to mohammed. they brought mohammed's body there. her mother said her last good-byes and mohammed was taken off for burial. eight children 2k50id down that street today along with two adults. it was the first day of ramadan eve holidays, and that's how the day ended. nobody should have been there firing any munitions anywhere near these children. tonight over gaza more people dying. let me just be quiet and i'll step out of the way so you can

see a little more of what is going on anderson. ill illumination rounds coming down. it's a moonless night tonight that's why it's important for the israeli military to put those rounds up in the air so people can see what is going on, and the drones whirring overhead. those are the ones on the ground trying to spot targets and after that is when we're hearing artillery bombardments, we're hearing f-16 fighter jets screaming overhead, we've had confirmation in the last few moments a mosque was hit, and some of the houses of top hamas officials, palestinian authority just to reiterate 18 people dead in the last hour or so, anderson. >> i've been seeing a lot of tweets in gaza people saying, enormous explosions.

have you felt those, and how does tonight compare to previous nights? >> tonight is very different from any night that we have experienced over the last two or three weeks in that the activity is much closer to central gaza city than it has been ever before we haven't seen these type of rounds come down here, we've heard isolated strikes on buildings within gaza city. i'll just fall silent again. >> is that an illumination round behind you? >> absolutely. that's an illumination flair there popping out. and then it drifts down. following that you'll hear a bigger blast, the blast that really rocked the building where we are now, was about an hour ago. that was a hit on the mosque -- a hamas run mosque, the israeli run military has accused hamas of -- [ explosion ]

there you go, as we were saying, illumination rounds going, in and then a strike. that appeared to be a strike from an f-16 fighter jet. we felt the reverberations from that where we are now. the air tonight is so thick with the smell of high explosives, the residue is drifting into the building, that is the second largest explosion we felt tonight. the first that hit on the hamas run mosque. those kind of mosques is what the israeli military accuse of hamas as using as secret weapons dumps. >> on the left-hand side of the screen you're seeing carl and on the right-hand side you're seeing a different vantage point, from reuters, is that a

live shot? that is a live shot also. >> when you talk about f-16 fighter jets, i can hear some of the drones actually over, it sounds like that distinctive buzz is a drone sound. with the fighter jets, how precise can they be? are they guided munitions? >> i would guess that the fighter jets have got much more precise munitions than the artillery weapons, of course in this age of laser guiding, target marking. one would think they would be more precise, we've heard from the israeli military that they don't want to kill innocent civilians, but that is not working because of the more than 1,000 people have died so far, more than 75% have been innocent civilians, that according to the united nations. whatever the military is trying

to do, that has not been successful, tonight as i say in the last hour or so, the palestinian authority reporting more than 18 people killed we don't know how many of those are civilians and how many may have been militant fighters. certainly, what you see those flairs going up in the air, that allows the drones you're hearing those now, it sounds like a large lawn mower. >> carl, stay with us, i want to bring in wolf blitzer who's joining us from israel today. you've heard from israeli officials, what have you heard about these large explosions the people in gaza have been experiencing. >> they're going around the specific targets in and around gaza city. they want to try to be as precise as they possibly can. the israelis have been deeply

deeply angered as a result of what was going on during the course of today leading up to what's going on now. they started on both sides of this border relative when i quietly, there's a little bit of a lull, all of a sudden it took off. rockets and missiles started going into the southern part of israel. eventually they started going all the way up along the mediterranean coast, but approaching the border. that's strengthened their will to go after the rocket launchers and missile launchers. you're seeing direct israeli action going after what they say are legitimate targets. they're in some of those populated areas, because hamas puts those targets there, as a result, they have no choice but to do what they're doing. those are israeli drones and

flares you're hearing and air strikes you're seeing as well. there have been other activities along the border, it's been a very intense day. >> carl, i want to go with you, wolf stay with us, on the left side of your screen is carl's vantage point. our camera. on the right-hand side of the screen, slightly different vantage point from reuters, both again, live images untold. in terms of just gee ago rah if i, can you explain the geography of where we are looking at, and where many of the strikes have been previously, and where they are today? >> yeah, absolutely. from our vantage point. i stepped out of the picture because we want to let you see what is happening in realtime. this is a vantage point in gaza city, that's north central gaza, and this camera, our camera is

now pointing south. you're looking across the south of gaza city. the explosion where the mosque is is west of our position, so if you look at your tv screen and look toward the right, that is where one of the large explosions has been going on. if you have sound turned up right now, you may be able to hear the sound those illumenatiillume illumenation flares make as they explode into the sky. >> that's the popping sound we hear? >> absolutely. because the illumenation flairs are being fired from the israeli m 109 guns they're about 8 or 9 miles away from where we are

now, so they're being fired with force into the sky. and as they get over their target, they make this explosion and the fwlaer will float to the ground on a parachute allowing time for the targets on the ground below to be illuminated. that will time for the drones above to get a look at what's going on down below. the image the drones are sending back to their bases are what's happening now. sending up illumenation rounds for the last 45 minutes, we've heard air strikes rock certain parts of gaza. the air that is drifting into our studio is heavy and thick with the smell of high explosives. down on the ground as well,

almost through the desserted streets of gaza, i can see the occasional flashing of red lights on top of the ambulancs s there have been casualties, 18 dead so far. >> in a situation like this, you and i discussed this last week. hamas hasn't built bomb shelters. do people just stay in their homes? we've seen people gathering at u.n. compounds, a u.n. school that was struck last week. is there anywhere for people to go? >> if you can hear me, i had trouble listening to that question. communications this evening have been very tricky, i'm trying to get communication back with you so we can continue that conversation. meanwhile, i'm going to let you listen in to some of the sound of what is going on. i'm back with you now, i can hear you again anderson. >> the question was, you and i

last week talked about the lack of bomb shelters in gaza city. they haven't been built by hamas. is there anywhere for people to go? are most people kind of cohering in their homes? we've seen some situations where they've gone to a u.n. school where the place was hit, i know the israelis are telling people to move elsewhere? is there anywhere for people to go? >> there is not, anderson, and the tragic thing tonight is that earlier in the day the israeli military was sending sms and text messages to people in northern gaza telling them to flee their homes there and head to safety in gaza city. now tonight it is gaza city under attack, it seemed like some tragic joke that was played on the people to come here and now find themselves under a barrage of israeli artillery.

there is no safe place. just below us, a united nations shelter. people are bunkered down in their homes, they dare not move. >> wolf, you visited a tunnel that israel has cited as one of the reasons they have launched this operation. explain what you saw. >> the israelis say it's their top priority right now, eliminating those tunnels. they found about 30 of them. these are tunnels that go underground from gaza into israel. they're usually about 45 feet or so below the surface. the tunnel that i visited went from -- about a mile and a half underground. about 45 feet underground, but then it crossed the border into israel. another nearly mile, let's say under the ground in israel, there would have been an opening, when i went down there i saw this -- and we're showing

our viewers some pictures, it was very, very intense. the concrete that was poured was very strong and it went on and on and on you can walk down there, see the tracks at the bottom this particular tunnel that i saw, the israelis say took them two years to build this tunnel, the goal of hamas is simple, to have this tunnel -- it would open up in israel, they could go out and send their hamas militants into israel, kill or capture israelis or to bring that individual back, try to work some sort of trade, and they found a bunch of these tunnels and they say there are more out there and there priority right now is to destroy these tunnels. if there were a cease-fire, that doesn't look likely. it wouldn't halt their tunnel operation, that's their top priority. >> wolf blitzer, i appreciate it, we're going to continue to

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their goals are not necessarily combatible. in some respects, each side wants what neither side has been able to give. a report from the prime minister for benjamin netanyahu. the hamas tunnels were collapsing in front of its eyes, when the tunnels are destroyed, is that the end to this operation in gaza? >> well, obviously we have to deal with the tunnels, they are a real strategic threat to our country for obvious reasonables, youen can't have a situation where terrorists in gaza can pop up on our side of the problem teer with weapons, with explosions and kidnap people or murder people, you can't have people in the southern part of israel living in constant fear of a terrorist walking into their house. we have to deal with the

tunnels, it will take a while longer, we have to not only destroy the existing ones, but make sure no ones aren't built. >> how do you go about doing that, it's one thing to destroy existing tunnels to ensure that new ones aren't built, there's no way to do that unless you maintain a permanent presence, i would think. >> it's a challenge and the reason we've got to do it, we don't want a situation where we have another gaza war six months to a year from now. we don't want to go through all of this a year from now. it's important we deal with the serious issue of demilitarizing gaza. if cement goes to gaza, it should be to build houses, kindergarten schools. it shouldn't be to build these tunnels. if money is going to gaza for the people of gaza, it shouldn't be siphoned off by hamas.

i think demill taration of gaza has to be part of the end game agenda, the truth is, it's a palestinian commitment. it's a signed palestinian commitment that gaza should be demilitarized and it's time the community make sure that is implemented. >> the palestinians are saying israeli defense forces are responsible for those strikes. what do you say? >> it's ludicrous. in fact tonight we did a briefing in tel aviv and the chief of staff of the army brought pictures to show this was a rocket that was aimed at us, they had a malfunction and it landed on their own people. it's not the first time this has happened. >> secretary of state kerry, his latest proposal is something you

rejected. we understand many are disappointed in that proposal. why is that? >> you'll recall, anderson, you probably covered the story at the time. nine years ago we pulled out of the gaza strip, took down all the settlements and we signed an agreement through then secretary of state condoleezza rice, there was supposed to be gates in the fence, and we were supposed to have open trade and commerce and tourism, and the idea was to have a cooperative peaceful relationship with gaza, when hamas took over and started firing rockets into israel, all that changed. the people of gaza can't come to us and say, wen watt a normal relationship if rockets are being fired from gaza into israel if they're trying to kill us. the restrictions are a function of the violence. if the violence ends and my prime minister said today. if we see a sustained period of quiet, we're willing to talk about easing restrictions. we have nothing against the people of gaza, if the violence

stops, many things today that were impossible have become possible. >> as to what hamas wants and whether it will accept the agreement here is charlie rose. >> translator: i'm ready to co exist with the jews, arabs and christians. i do not co exist with the occupiers, the settlers and those who. >> it's one thing to say you want to co exist with the jews, another to co exist with the state of israel. do you want to co exist with israel. do you want to recognize israel as a jewish state? >> no. >> now ramin robani.

tactically, strategically, what does hamas hope to achieve here? what is the end game for them in this current conflict? >> i think from hamas' perspective, this is a conflict that was initiated by israel. and is a conflict of israel's choosing, but nevertheless they're insisting that any resolution must include a lifting of the seven-year blockade of the gaza strip, since for them, that's the underlying cause of these repeated israeli attacks on the gaza strip. >> i want to read something you wrote. you said, for the past year, hamas has been in a precarious position, it had lost its headquarters in damascus, and preferential status in iran. the underground tunnel economy between egypt and gaza had been systematically dismantled by the egyptians. and since seizing control, it

was no longer regularly to pay the salaries of tens of thousands of government employees. so i mean, is part of this also that hamas saw the current fight as a chance to distract attention from those realities? >> i wouldn't say it was so much to distract attention from those as to focus on those realities and insist on their resolution as part of any cease-fire arrangement that would end this current round of fighting. if hamas, i guess could have chosen to simply fold its position at the first sign of f-16s flying over the gaza strip. i think they took the decision that they were not only going to stand up to this israeli assault, but do so in a way that would result in a lifting of the blockade in a way that they could again gov earn the gaza strip more effectively, than they have been in the past year. >> israel says look, we were

pushed into doing this, because of hamas rockets being fired into our territory, and these tunnels and no country can allow that to happen. to that you say what? >> well, i heard your interview, and i realize it's his job to defend his government, even by those standardses, it was a distorsion of the facts. the nice thing about facts is that they're fairly easy to verify. we have beginning next month, a deliberate and premeditated attack on the palestinians. first in the west bank. >> you're saying -- you're talking about in the wake of the kidnapping and murder of the three israelis? >> yes, which israel immediately blamed on hamas. and for which they have to produce any evidence. for those who know hamas, it's an organization that's usually quick to take responsibility for its actions and even to

exaggerate them. in this instance, denied involvement in this attack, and israel has yet to provide any evidence that hamas was responsible for these killings. secondly. israel escalated quite deliberately against the gaza strip. israel has in its doctrine something that it calls mowing the lawn, which consists with periodic fierce assaults against the gaza strip, to cut hamas down to size, to reduce its military capabilities and so on, the problem with mowing the lawn is that the grass consists of palestinian civilians. >> i appreciate your time, thank you for being on it. >> thank you. >> the spokesman continues to blame hamas for the capture and murder of those three israeli teenagers. they've offered no direct evidence of that. over the weekend an israeli police spokesman said it was a

lone cell affiliated with hamas, but not under the leadership of hamas, not taking orders to kill those kids from hamas directly. the israeli spokeswoman i asked him about that, said that either the police spokesman was misquoted or just simply misinformed or misspoke, and that is the position of the israeli government, they continue to hold hamas responsible for the kidnapping and murder of those three kids. as always, for more on the story, go to cnn.com. the war zone in eastern ukraine, where the crash site of flight 17 remains unsecured and unreachable because of the fighting on the ground. we'll have more coming up from gaza and israel ahead. what...? jesse don't go! jesse...no! i'm sorry daisy, but i'm a loner. and a loner gotta be alone. heee yawww!

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we continue to cover the situation in gaza city, you're seeing a live picture right now in gaza city illumenation flares that have been fired closer to central gaza city than we've seen on previous nights. we're hearing from many of our residents that the amount of

explosions has been significantly more than they have heard in quite some time in gaza city, those illumination flares allowing drones, you can hear that buzz sound those are drones circling over the area looking for targets. and then the artillery is fired from the border region or f-16s overhead. flight 17 is still not secured. it's been 11 full days since the plane was shot out of the sky. one of the officialses calling it one of the biggest open crime scenes in the world heavy fighting in the area is making it too dangerous for investigators to do their work. they were forced to turn back today. over the weekend these satellite

images were released. ukraine's military broke through to the crash site and set up armored personnel carriers there. after 11 days it's remarkable there isn't any type of organized effort to search for and recover the victims of the crash. you were with the team as they tried to get to the crash site today. what happened? >> they were turned back because of the fighting which has picked up like you couldn't have imagined as international focus turns to get that crash scene secured. we were almost too close do some of the heavy artillery that was pounding that particular area. they went one kilometer further than the separatist militants would allow them to go with them and they turned back. they're going to try again tomorrow, but there's a lot of

ukrainian military activity in that activity. >> there are large numbers, though, the most investigators, international observers, not only from osce, from the netherlands and australia on the ground there right now, correct? >> yes, there are, 40, 50 of the police, and contingent of monitors who have been here for a while observing the conflict, they have the ability to negotiate with the separatists, which they've been doing. because the separatists aren't talking to the ukrainian government in an organized fashion, the cease-fire never seems to hold. as they moved toward that site today the ukrainian government announced they were in an operation to retake key towns. leaving some to think it's a

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welcome back, i want to take you again to gaza city. you're seeing our cnn camera on the left, reuters on the right. told a short time ago, a few minutes ago. several large explosions, you see ems workers rushing to the scene. our karl penhaul is there, what's occurred? >> that very large building is the building that houses the hamas-run radio station. there are now fire trucks and ambulances down near the entrance to that building, and we've also just seen a group of people that have appeared to have been evacuated from that building or a building nearby.

that building in the last 15 minutes or so has been struck now at least three times by what appeared to be very large bombs fired by f-16 fighter jets. that building is no more than about 500 yards from where we are now, it sent the building where we are shaking, and, of course, it is close enough to send shrapnel fragments to our position, which is why we also were taking cover. but the bombs there, at least three of them we heard within 15 minutes directed at the hamas run radio station. that radio station was not broadcasting at the time, but there clearly were people in the building. in the last few moments we've seen fire trucks and ambulances race to that area, and people evacuating from the base of the building, anderson. >> it's hard to tell from our vantage point given what we're

seeing, is that a several multistory building? a tall building? and if so, do you know how many floors they actually use, and whether munitions were put into those floors in particular? or is it a small building that was hit? >> no, that is a large building, one of gaza's skyscrapers by gaza standards, that building would have been at least 18 stories, 58 floors high. what we saw with the first bomb that was dropped on that building, appeared to hit the top of the building and for a while started the fire. the other two explosions may have gone in the side looking from here, i would kind of concede through the dark, the dust, that perhaps explosions have gone in around the 15th

floor. but also it is very clear that the windows up at the top of the building have been blown out, i also believe from the sound of the explosion and the way it echoed is that possibly those bombs or missiles have gone into the front of that building. we're looking at the rear of the building, but it's certainly no more than 500 yards away. damage has been done there, i can see the top of one of the antennas, it looks to have been 2wi9ed by that again, indicative that a missile or explosive was dropped on the building. perhaps the other rounds going into the side. three very large explosions sent our building shaking as well. we are taking cover there, we are well within the possible shrapnel field of a large explosive should it continue to hit that target, anderson? >> any reports, have you seen

any -- either directly or had any reports of casualties? >> not immediately on that building. we did as you saw there, a live picture of ambulance crews and fire trucks racing to that scene, you caught that scene live almost as it was beginning to unfold, we doesn't see people being loaded into the ambulance, but from my vantage point, i saw people crossing the street that appeared to be making their way very hastily out of the base of that building. >> karl penhaul continuing to keep cover, we'll check in with you throughout the two-hour broadcast. much more ahead, we're live until 10:00 p.m. eastern tonight. we'll be right back.

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a shoot out in new york city, and the suspected shooter is dead. the fugitive was corners after he was featured on "the hunt" with john walsh. a police detective and two u.s. marshalls were wounded during the attempted arrest. this video shows some of the wounded officers. that gun is picked up off the ground. it's unclear if that was an

officer's gun or the suspect. the dead suspect is the former wedding photographer, had been on the run for more than two years, accused of sexually molesting the son of two friends in california. police got tips on his location after john walsh profiled the case originally and then again last night. >> my son sat me down and he said, mom, i have something to tell you. and i said what is it? he said, i don't know if i should, because he promised me ien wot say anything at that moment. my heart just sunk. and he proceeded to tell me that charlie had touched him inappropriately, and how he did it. when he finished telling me, i was physically sick, and i

called his father and said you need to come home right now, we need to talk. >> even though melissa was in the same bed. not only in the same house, the same room, but the same king sized bed. he pulled back the sheets and proceeded to play with our son's private parts, and he tried to explain to our son that it was normal what he was doing to him. that his parents were going to be upset with him if he told them. but it was normal for friends to do that. that it was normal for him to know about how to masturbate. >> we both listened to the story, and we both wanted to make sure we weren't accusing

one of our best friends of something so horrible -- >> horrible and sickening. the former best friend is dead, i talked about the case with john walsh. john, this guy's been on the run since june of 2012. >> from last sunday night's show, the marshall's had their mobile crime unit which pulled up to the hotline and we got some terrific tips and zeroed in on manhattan. >> it's incredible. >> just remind viewers what he's accused of. it's among the worst of all things you can do to a child. >> you and i have talked so many times over the years. i think everyone knows i'm the further of a murdered child. it took 27 years to catch the serial predator, pedophile that murdered adams. people can't seem to wrap their heads around the fact that they live among our midst.

>> and they're known to families? >> this guy is alleged to have molested his college roommate's son. he was the godfather of the child. with the mother in the room. he was the guy that everybody trusted, the family trusted so much to take care of this little boy. >> the guilt she must feel called him in to help her deal with the -- one sick kid and the boy. >> everybody trusted this guy, i say the vampires that live amongst us. the person who did this is alleged to have done this with someone they trusted. that they brought into their family. >> when they went to police initially, and as soon as the wife told the husband, they went to the police. the police told them he had been accused of this previously, and he didn't show up for a court case. >> when they got into his computer, he had the addresses

of several animals, he was bragging about molesting these dogs. this is the side of society no one wants to talk about. and he planned for that run. when they had the courage to go to police and started to charge him. if you're innocent, do your day in court, get in there and defend your innocence. >> john, thanks. >> thank you, anderson. the suspect is dead, the episode of the hunt that led to his arrest is going to air tonight at 11:00 p.m. eastern here on cnn. remarkable that already john walsh got action. up next breaking news, new flares, explosions and gunfire in gaza. the battle in our live second hour coming up. , dad? yeah, i can fix that. (dad) i wanted a car that could handle anything. i fixed it!

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good evening. thanks for joining us for this special edition of ac 360. tonight no lull in the fighting between israel and hamas. that sound, what appears to be incoming artillery, you're also seeing illumination flares that have been fired over gaza city tonight. flares burning overhead, there are drones in the air, f-16 fighter jets as well, targeting

hamas, controlled a mosque in some cases. three large explosions heard at a mosque-run radio station, a short time ago. we're talking a few minutes ago. ambulances seen -- some of the aftermath video again given the darkness, it's hard to tell. you see the smoke coming off a large building in central gaza city. hamas for its part firing rockets into israel today. taking aim at america's pointman for a way out. john kerry is under verbal fire, so is the white house. a lot to talk about, especially the human cost, a mosque hitting gaza, so reportedly was the house of hamas's leader in gaza. 10 palestinians killed today at a refugee camp. a hospital where so many of the wounded have been taken coming under fire as well. getting a good look at the

latest explosions. carl, let's start with you, what's the latest you are seeing and hearing, just in the last hour. >> excuse me if i have to break off at any time, there are explosions rocking the area around where we have offices. the last explosions went into a building less than 500 yards from where we are now. that is the hamas run radio station. three air strikes went in on that building, a huge explosion there. those air strikes come after several hours of the israeli military dropping illumination flairs around this area which was giving the drones up in the sky time to look and hunt for targets on this moonless night, and then this bombardment coming in. you heard just as you were bringing us in, the sound of

what was a huge explosion, sounded as if that came from an f-16 fighter bomb dropped on the radio station. that sent the building where we are reverber ating. each time that happens for precautions, we have to hit the ground very quickly. we've already taken the windows out of this side of the build ing -- okay, anderson, this is what i was talking about. another very large explosion going on in the very near is a vinity. again, if you give me two seconds, i'm going to look out. i can't tell you exactly where that was, but if any of my colleagues have got information in the next few moments, i will let you know. another huge explosion going on in the vicinity of our offices in central gaza right now. that fits the pattern of what has been going on for the last 20 minutes or so, just as i was

explaining and just as you saw there, because the explosions are going on so close, and we believe these bombs to be so large, we have to take cover, we have a solid wall behind us. for precaution sake we've taken out the glass windows and frames here, so the shock waves don't send shards of glass into the building. we have to hit the ground, because those bombs could send shrapnel fragments coming into the office if that happens. i'm going to stand by the window now and maybe get our cameraman to zoom in a little bit on that scene. now -- >> karl, if you can -- >> the area is being illuminated once again. >> if you can explain to our viewers, you see the area illuminated, i assume that's from an illumination of a flare. can you explain the process, you hear a drone circling overhead,

and then perhaps artillery or f-16 fighters? >> absolutely. and that is what is going on. in this part of gaza city, the power is now out, it's been out for some time now. that illumination you can see is coming from israeli illumination rounds high in the sky, shedding light, and if i keep quiet for a second, you maybe can hear the israeli drones above. those drones are equipped with cameras, high resolution cameras, they are hunting for targets down on the ground here in central gaza. it's a moonless night tonight, there is no moon. that is why they have to put the illumination rounds into the sky, so that even the infrared cameras or the kind of visual technology those drones have can find some targets on the ground. once they find their target, tonight artillery strikes and air strikes are being called in

very quickly. that strike that you heard just now, just as we were on air, that fits the pattern with what we've seen in the course of the last hour or so. that large white building you're seeing, that is the building that houses hamas run radio al axa. that large explosion that you heard when i was just standing there in front of the camera and had to take cover, we don't know where that was coming from just yet, we believe it was coming from just west of our building, perhaps 500 yards from our building as well. and so within a raid yas of 500 yards of where we are now, multiple air strikes going in, with a very large ordinance. >> we're seeing the building again. your camera on the left-hand side of the screen. both of these live images.

the view on the right is from a different camera from reuters, a slightly different location. we're hearing the ambulances coming. carl, if memory serves me, the last time i was there during this situation, during shelling in gaza city, that very same building you saw being hit a short time ago that we're seeing there on the right-hand side of our screen, i think i saw that building being hit on the third floor, i think two missiles were put into either side of that building in the last conflict, i remember running down there and seeing people being brought out. it gives you a sense of the representative nature of this, at the same building, if i'm correct. i think i'm about 90% correct here that it's the same building. the representative nature of this, that the same building would be struck each time there is military action like this. >> your memory does serve you very well, anderson, in fact i

was talking to one of the cnn team who is with us, this time around as well. he was pointing out exactly the same as you're mentioning. that very same building that you saw being hit back in 2012, hit on the third floor in november 2012. that is the same building that's taken three strikes tonight, we certainly saw one of those strikes going in on the roof, started what appeared to be a small fire. difficult from our vantage point to tell where the other two strikes were in terms of what floors were lit. from about the 14th or 15th floor up, apparently certainly all the windows have been blown out, and earlier on you were taking the live picture as ambulances and fire crews rushed to that building. from our vantage point as well, we could see more than a dozen people i would guess running across the root to get into those emergency vehicles. there definitely were people in that building at that time but

al axa radio did not appear to be on air. we're talking about the israeli milita military, there's no indication until the illuminations that the flares are happening. >> we're going to stay with karl's image on the left-hand side of your screen. what are you hearing from sources in israel about the military action happening in gaza tonight. ? >> they're about to do, as you might imagine, but in israel, sirens and went off a couple hours ago, in southern israeli cities. we know there are three rockets that came over out of the sky. people scared on this side, and more bloodshed on both sides of

the border. messages from gaza and israel signaling to the world that we may be in for a protracted israeli gaza war 51 people in israel killed on this side. as you mentioned anderson, five israeli soldiers died according to the idf. a mortar fell right not middle of a military installation in southern israel. i have to mention this, the prime minister came out and talked to his people today. netanyahu came out very strong statement today in a televised statement, he said that his people must be prepared for a lengthy campaign. it gives you some idea of what we are looking at. and you were here in 2012, i was here along with you in israel and gaza, you know how this goes. the bombing starts, the rockets start or the rocket starts, and

then the air strikes start, it goes back and forth, terrified civilians on both sides. people dying, this is going on and on and on. there's a real appetite here, though, when israelis are polled, 87% support netanyahu's campaign, especially after so many soldiers have been killed. anderson? >> sarah, i want to show our viewers images that we are just getting, we were just able to get them of -- we saw that building that carl was talking about, the building where al axa radio was hit a short time ago. three separate strikes on that building, i believe this is video showing the second of those strikes. let's watch. i'm seeing it for the first time. [ explosion ] >> the top floor, that was the same building i was talking

about with carl when we were there in 2012. the targets seem to be on the top of that building. clearly that's the second strike near the top of the building. that was the third strike. karl, one of the things i noticed there, the times i've been there, people often, ems workers, local journalists, rush into a building to try to find people after it's been struck. it's an extraordinary dangerous thing given that there are multiple strikes on a target back to back, a few minutes or seconds apart. >> yeah, absolute ly and that i why we saw a cautious move by ambulances. they drove toward the building but stopped 100 yards short.

that would have placed them in the shrapnel field if there had been another explosion. we see that again and again of people getting in harm's way trying to rescue people and falling victims. that could have happened tonight as you say, anderson. >> carl, you said it had been a hamas run mosque that had been hit before we went on air. that's close to your location as well, correct? >> absolute ly. that is in western gaza city. you'll remember that is the western city down by the beach, not very far away from where we are now either. it's a hamas run mosque, and, of course, throughout the duration of this current confrontation, the israeli military have been accusing gaza's militants of use

ing mosques as hideouts for weapons. that's what's allowing the drones to look around, maybe they saw something, maybe they had a suspension or maybe they said this belongs to hamas, we're going to destroy it anyway, that certainly seems to be the case with al axa radio station, at the time it was hit a short while ago, with three bombs or artillery rounds it was not broadcasting anything on air at that time, as far as i understand, anderson. >> karl, sarah be careful. we'll continue to check in with you throughout this hour. i want to show you a strike that occurred a few minutes ago, and you get a sense of how close things are in central gaza. this was a strike, we're not sure what the target was or what was actually hit, but watch this happen live on air.

[ explosion ] >> that was the strike on the top of the al axa radio building. there was another strike in which karl ducked we'll show that to you later on. the political fallout in washington, and why israel could be planning for a long complain. and a look inside the organization, the fighting inside hamas. fraud. fro-g. frau-d. i think we're on the same page. at discover, we treat you like you'd treat you. fraud protection. get it at discover.com as long as i've lived in iowa, (strauss' blue danube playing)

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welcome back, the abreaking news tonight caught on camera. >> we've already taken the windows out of this building. >> okay, anderson, this is what i was talking about, another very large explosion going on in the very near vicinity again. if you give me two seconds i'm going to look out. >> we know it's the ministry of finance. you saw the reflection of the blast on buildings, and then the delayed sound of the explosion which is what made carl duck. three large explosions seen as well. a mosque in the homes of moss you can officials have been hit.

john kerry is back in washington. he's catching a lot of heat. and so is the obama administration. let's take a look at whether that was warranted. arthur of the end of greatness, why america can't have and doesn't want another great president. >> you called president obama america's goldilocks president. saying he's desperately trying to find an approach that's either not too hot or cold. >> he's stuck in a region we can't leave, we have interests, allies and enemies there. we can't transform it. if you can't leave the region, you have one choice, i call it a transacti transaction. you look for the middle ground

p.. the problem the president faces, i'm not so sure there is a middle ground. you have any number of problems. israel hamas and gaza is the poster child for this, and the broader palestinian conflict which don't have comprehensive solutions in my judgment. they have outcomes. what you try to do, i suspect, you look for outcomes that in fact might position you later to solve problems. he's looking for that middle ground and in this region it's hard to find the center. >> what do you think of that. and what do you think of the criticism in the israeli government of secretary kerry in his most recent cease-fire proposal. >> the president has had good intentions here, he has sought middle ground. the results have not born fruit as he hoped. if they led instead as madeleine

albright a former democratic secretary of state said yesterday, to put it simply, the area is a mess. i think what's particularly distressing this evening, is that relations between the united states and israel have fallen to a low point. i can't remember a time where there has been so much acrimony unanimous rejection of a peace proposal from a secretary of state. and a savaging of our secretary of state. i think a lot of americans feel it's unfair that john kerry has been trying very hard to be an honest broker, that's not the way it's being interpreted in israel right now. >> when israel talks now, it's continually about a demilitarized gaza. is that realistic? >> in my view, no. the solution to gaza will take all the weapons away, close down all the tunnels and open gaza

up. you trade demilitarization for economic reconstruction. maybe they would emerge not necessarily like singapore, but it would be able to breathe properly. hamas is not going to demilitarize. it will transform itself in something else, become another palestinian, frankly dysfunctional faction that can't govern. the only alternative if the israelis want what they say, is to fundamentally disarm hamas by force, that would require reoccupation by gaza, six months of effort and probably the kind of damage and numbers of depth to innocent palestinian civilians that would make that enterprise literally unsustainable. the israelis raised the demilitarization. hamas wants complete recovery from gaza, neither side is going to get what they want. my final point i think is this. you simply have insufficient urgency on the part of the two

primary combatants right now to war an the a deescalation, israelis are not done and hamas believes that the pictures on tv means it's winning. they've killed three times the number of idf soldiers than in the two previous operations combined. and they're surviving, unless the two parties are willing to de-escalate and that point will come, no mediation is going to fix this. >> they're not just surviving right now, it seems like they are in a better position than the palestinian authority. the palestinian authority seems weakened by all this in the eyes of the palestinians. >> had there been a deal along the lines that the egyptians put forward, you could have brought the plo which was anticipated back into gaza, and they would be running by hamas. his point is, in effect we solidified hamas on power and gaza over the last week or so,

and the hardliners are winning on both sides, the israeli moderates have been overridden now by the extremists, you have both sides turning to the extremes and it makes it much, much more difficult. >> david gergen, aaron miller, thank you. there's a lot more to talk about tonight. why israel could be planning for a long campaign in gaza. ups is a global company, but most of our employees live in the same communities that we serve.

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the breaking news tonight, a number of very large explosions hitting gaza tonight. if you've been watching, you heard them live on air. the homes of hamas officials, air strikes and the growing possibility of an extended campaign on the ground. an israeli general saying the long campaign to find and wipe out tunnels almost complete. wolf blitzer got a tour of one of those tunnels today. i spoke with a chief spokesman. an israeli general told the new york times that the hamas

tunnels were collapsing in front of its eyes. when the tunnels are destroyed, is that the end to this operation in gaza? >> obviously we have to deal with the tunnels, they are a real strategic threat to our country for obvious reasons, youen can't have a situation where terrorists in gaza can infiltrate your country pop up on our side of the frontier with weapons, explosives and kidnap people or murder people. you can't have people being in constant fear of a terrorist walking into their house. you have to deal with the tunnels, it will take a while longer. we have to not only destroy the existing tunnels, we have to make sure new ones aren't built. >> how do you go about doing that. it's one thing to destroy existing tunnels to ensure that new ones aren't built. there's no way to do that, unless you maintain a permanent presence, i would think. >> well, it's a challenge. and the reason we've got to do it, because you don't have a situation where we have another gaza war 6 months from now.

everyone understands that we don't want to go through all this over again half a year from now. and so it's important as we move out of this. that we deal with a serious and challenging issue of demilitarizing gaza. if cement goes to gaza, it should be to build houses, kindergarten schools, it shouldn't be siphoned off by hamas to build their murder tunnels. it should reach the people of gaza, it shouldn't be siphoned off by hamas to pay for rockets and explosives fired at israel. demilitarization of gaza has to be part of the end game agenda. it's a palestinian commitment that gaza should be demilitarized and it's time the international community made sure that plan is implemented. >> the palestinians are saying the israeli defense forces are responsible for those strikes. what do you say?

>> well, it's ludicrous. in fact tonight we did a briefing in tel aviv and the chief of staff of the israeli army brought pictures, photographs to show this with a was a rocket aimed at us, they had a malfunction that fell short. it's not the first time we've seen this sort of thing happen. where a palestinian ordinance has killed palestinian civilians, no doubt about that. >> secretary of state kerry has laid out a cease-fire proposal, something you rejected. we understand members of your government, including the prime minister were very disappointed in that proposal, why is that? >> you'll recall anderson, you probably covered the story at the time, nine years ago we pulled out of the gaza strip. we took down all the settlements and we signed an agreement through then secretary of state condoleezza rice, they were supposed to be gates in the fence, and we were supposed to have open trade and commerce and tourism.

and the idea was to have a cooperative, peaceful relationship with gaza. when hamas took over and started firing rockets into israel, obviously all that complaining. the people of gaza can't come to us and say, we want a normal relationship if rockets are being fired from gaza into israel, they're trying to kill us. the restrictions are a function of the violence. if the violence ends and my prime minister said that today, if we see a sustained period of quiet we're willing to talk about easing restrictions, we have nothing against gaza, if the violence stops, many things that are impossible become possible. >> thank you. >> thanks for having me. can you find out more on this story at cnn.com and others. the war zone in eastern ukraine where the crash site of flight 17 remains unsecured and unreachable because of the fighting. i'll talk to a member of the investigative team and he'll talk about why they weren't able to get to the site.

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we're looking at the scene in gaza, these images from reuters, illumination flairs

over central gaza. we have seen these flares going all night, in which weech heard a number of explosions, nick payton walsh, you heard her report. investigators are unable to reach flight mh-17. because of the heavy fighting they couldn't get there. it could be the scene of a war crime. there are still human remains there. investigators have called for a cease-fire to allow investigators to do their work safely. that hasn't happened. investigators tried again to reach that crash site. they had to turn back. michael was part of the team that had to turn around today.

he joins me tonight. >> for the second day in a row, you and the international team of monitors had to turn around. can you walk us through what happened? >> sure. today we got a fairly early start, it was the biggest contingent ever we attempted to take out there. not only 12 of my colleagues from the special monitoring team. but also 15 experts from the netherlands and australia. the road two thirds of the way was very good no delay, and then as we were nearing the territory the rebels control, we had to stop, held there for about 45 minutes and then we heard some loud explosions. an assessment was taken and a decision by our group was made not to proceed. this happened as assurances had been received earlier from the the rebel side to cease

hostilities while we enter that zone. we don't know who broke that agreement. but the point is someone did, it wasn't safe enough for us to go further today. >> it's extraordinary that this site is still not secure 11 days after the crash, and again, i know this is a huge priority for you there are still human remains out there all this time that we don't know about. for you is the number one priority securing those remains? >> absolutely. absolutely. and we know -- what made it particularly frustrating for us today, we know the dutch and australians have not only the authority but the equipment to carefully retrieve these remains, protect them with the dignity it should, and start that long transfer back to the netherlands, they're even bringing equipment in as we

speak, equipment for refridge trace that kind of stuff, so this process can happen. >> i think that bears repeating, this is the first time this has happened that there's the possibility of retrieval of the remains in place. even at the end of last week when we were talking, there wasn't the capabilities of dealing with the remains you were finding every time you went out there you're saying you have people from the netherlands, australia who have equipment. the possibility is coming in for refridge trace, and would be able to help repatriate these remains, that would be hugely significant and give urgency for you and the others to get out there. there's an additional impact site you're trying to get to which hasn't been looks at. >> you may recall we talked last time about a huge piece of fuselage that was concealed in a heavily wooded area.

and that actually, a few meters or 100 meters away from that is what used to be a chicken farm, believe it or not. it's a series of buildings and long distance information we did revealed that there's bits of fuselage between those buildings on top of those buildings and there's the possibility of more human remains there. every day that passes that we're not at that site it's more vulnerable to man mate and natural type of interventions and i don't know if you can hear behind me, but we're now in donetsk city, a fair bit away, you can hear mortars going off. that indicates the insecurity of this area. >> are you going to try again tomorrow to get out to the site and do you have any confidence you will be able to. >> our chief monitor held high

level talks with the ukrainian side, and with high level officials from the netherlands and australia. as we speak right now, our deputy monitor is meeting with the rebel side. again, reiterating that we need to get out there in a secure environment and that it's nobody's interest that our mission does not take place tomorrow. >> i appreciate what you and all the others are doing out there. thank you. >> my pleasure, thank you. keeping them honest, for more than a year, drew griffin has been pressing the va for answers about dying veterans, secret waiting lists and more. breaking story after story. house and senate leaders struck a deal for reform. drew has details ahead. as long as i've lived in iowa, there's always been wind.

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welcome back. keeping them honest on capitol hill today about action that could begin to fix the va health system. an agreement has been announced to move forward on the veterans access choice and accountability act. it's a rare bipartisan agreement, it comes after months of reporting by cnn. on secret wait lists at va hospitals and veterans dying waiting for care. the scandal has already forced the resignation of eric shinseki and several senior leaders at the va have left their jobs or retired outright. drew griffin first broke this

story. he's been reporting on problems at the va for the better part of 18 months. he got nothing but pushback and denials from the va starting with his first report. >> how are you? drew griffin with cnn. >> if it's not been approved by the public affairs office i can't allow you on the property. >> i'm calling them right now. >> can you take the camera across the street. >> the officer told us to leave who told you to kick us off of here? >> it's our policy. >> your policy? we can't stand on united states government land with a camera, without a legitimate purpose to be here. >> i'm trying to find out why these patients died. >> drew joins me now, the bill to fix this whole mess needs to get out of committee, passed both houses of congress, what exactly would it do?

>> well, anderson, it's basically an emergency bill a cost of $17 billion to handle the immediate problems at the va and at least continue to take a crack at solving the longer systemic issues that created the mess in the first place. it sets aside $10 million to allow veterans who have been waiting too long for care at the va or those who live too far away, they can go outside of the va system, get treatment in the private sector, there's $5 billion to hire more doctors and medical staff for the va, and the va can now go out and lease 27 new medical facilities that they say they need to get more space to treat the vets. and finally, this has been tried before several times, it requires the va health system to update this antiquated appointment scheduling system they've been using for decades. >> it sounds like a lot of money, it's not enough -- not enough money wasn't the problem in the first place, was it? >> that is what is a little

misleading about all this, anderson. money has not been a problem at the va, the department of veterans affairs has gotten every dime it's asked for over the last several years. this was and remains a management problem and how the money has been mismanaged. this amounts to a $17 billion band aid to immediately end these weight lists. it's a good thing, it comes with a lot of compromise trying to fix longer term problems. one of the compromising points is that senator bernie sanders the head of the senate veterans affairs committee finally realizes that senior managers at the va were not telling the truth, there was a lot of incompetence and he's relented on this point allowing more timely firings at the department of veterans affairs. >> we have all been outraged by the dissolution of doubt and so forth. this bill contains language

which will allow the secretary to fire immediately people who are underperforming or lying. it gives them a 21 day period of appeal without pay during that period. >> anderson, as far as we know, to this day, no one has been fired at the va, and the managers and directors who have been put on leave, even those >> up next, breaking news at the shoot-out in new york regarding the sexual predator who was just featured. shopping online is as easy as it gets. wouldn't it be great if hiring plumbers, carpenters and even piano tuners were just as simple? thanks to angie's list, now it is. start shopping online from a list of top-rated providers. visit angieslist.com today.

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welcome back. the hunt is over for a suspected sex offender after a shoot-out in new york city. gun fire rang out. the fugitive was cornered after he was featured on cnn's the hunt with john walsh. two new york officials were injured. a gun is picked up off the ground. unclear if that was the officer's gun or the suspect's. the dead suspect is charles mozdir. police say he was armed with a revolver. 20 extra rounds of ammunition. he had been on the run for more than two years accused of sexually molesting the sons of two friends in california. police got tips on his location after john walsh profiled the case july 20th on cnn and again

last night. here's that part of that report. >> my son sat me down and he said, mom, i have something to tell you. and in, well, what is it? he said i don't know if i should because he promised me i wouldn't say anything. and at that moment, my heart just sunk. he proceeded to tell me that charlie had touched him inappropriately and how he did it. when he finished telling me, i was physically sick. and i called his father and said you need on come home right now. we need to talk. >> even though melissa was in the same bed, not only in the same house or the same room but in the same king size bed, he pulled back the sheets and

proceeded to play with our son's private parts. and he tried explain to our son that it was normal, what he was doing to him. that his parents were going to be upset with him if he told them. but it was normal for friends to do that. that it was normal for him to know about how to masturbate. >> we both listened to the story and we both wanted to make sure that we weren't accusing one of our best friends of something. so horrible. >> that's heart breaking. john walsh joins me now with the case and the surprising outcome. this is just incredible. you profiled this guy two weeks ago and again, sunday night, and

here he is hiding in plain sight. i walked by this place where he was an pprehended every day to t breakfast. it was a week ago, our second show that we profiled this guy, two child molesters and then cnn ran the show again at 8:00 before we go on at 9:00. and we had gotten a couple good tips last week. that they had zeroed in on new york city. and the village. lower manhattan. and one of the tips mentioned the dog. he went on the run with his dog. and i've got, first i have to say to those three heroic cops, and they're all in good shape. the detective had the worst gunshot wound and was in surgery all afternoon. these guys take their lives in their own hands every day. but they're all going to be good. but he was hiding in plain sight. the tips were right. we got a couple more tips sunday

night when the show reaired. and the marshals zeroed in on an address. he shot first. we thought he had a couple guns with him. and the biggest thing is what a relief for the family. not only for their incredible courage to go forward and press charges against him. but when he ran, when he jumped his bond, his roommate had said that he had told him many times he would come back and kill the father for going to the police. so it is a tough ending but for the family, a good ending. >> it's amazing. in your broadcast, it is all in the details. you mentioned the dog. you talk about his dog in the piece and sure enough, it was a tip about, that sparked somebody saying, that's that guy with the dog that i see in the neighborhood every day. the minutiae of the 1,200 guys i caught on the 25 years of doing america's most wanted, it always seemed to be the minutiae. but it really reaffirms my belief that people don't want to

be ridge is lanvigilantes. i give them chance to help and they do. >> do you find those guys end up in a big city? you would think they would be in some isolated area in the woods but they come to a city. >> what never ceases to amaze me is that they hide in plain sight. a big city is a big place because you can get work off the books. you don't have to show i.d., a social security number. he had work. he was surviving right in the middle of manhattan. >> it has to feel good. >> it is wonderful. again it reaffirms my belief that the public wants to help catch these guys and these hero cops did a great job. >> again, i'm so proud of cnn that they were able to get you here to be part of this. john, thank you very much for all you're doing. a reminder, the else the hunt will air tonight at 11:00 p.m. eastern right here on cnn. that does it for this edition of

3 360. there's been a lot going on. our coverage of course continues from the middle east and all throughout the world and eastern ukraine. cnn tonight starts right now. this is cnn tonight. breaking news. gaza under fire. israel's pounding gaza tonight. palestinian officials say at least 18 people had been killed. we're live in gaza with the very latest for you. plus, has the u.s. contributed to this stand-off? what should america's role be? hunted down, gunfire rings out in manhattan as officers trace a fugitive featured on cnn's the hunt on john walsh and tips help police track him down. his life ends in a hail of gunfire. john walsh will join us live. plus, with the deep battle lines drawn in the middle east and putin's bold moves in ukraine, are americans feeling less safe? if you are, you're not alone. let us knowt