upon the greek coastal city state. some say the sanctions known as the megarian decree were for trespass on sacred lands. the decree prohibited megarian merchants from trading in@theenian markets. the move triggered a war. let's hope our modern sanctions have a better ending. thanks for all of you being part of my program this week. of my program this week. i will see you next week. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com hello. i'm wolf blitzer reporting live from jerusalem. "reliable sources" will begin in a few moments. we want to bring you up to date. there's breaking news in the middle east. there's new fury in the wake of what united nations and palestinian officials described as a shelling incident in southern gaza. they tell cnn the school was being used to shelter thousands of civilians and there are in

the u.n.'s words multiple deaths and injuries. the palestinians say at least ten people died. we've had no comment yet from the israel defense forces. we anticipate comment soon. we know 80 hamas rockets so far today have been launched from gaza into israel. we're watching to see what kind of damage, if any, those rockets -- those rockets created. we know that israel's iron dome defense system intercepted several of the rockets. let's go to gaza. cnn's john vause is standing by. the israeli officials are saying they're almost complete with the destruction of the hamas tunnels going from gaza into israel. what are you hearing over there? >> reporter: yeah, well, it's not what we're hearing but it's what we're seeing. if we look off to the distance, we can see the dust on the horizon where it looks as if the israeli tanks and armor have been redeployed closer to the border. you can see the dust on the

horizon. clearly the israelis are pulling back, moving away from the populated areas moving back towards israel. that is not to say that they are finishing with this operation. in fact, quite the opposite. a short time ago leaflets were dropped from planes flying over gaza for the local population here reading in arabic, this battle continues. tell your leaders underground the battle will continue. now the problem that -- sorry. also what we're hearing is there is some fairly tense israeli activity down there as well. you mentioned the unra school. 10 people were killed. we were down there a couple of days ago. a lot of people had taken shelter in those u.n. schools because they didn't want to stay in their homes. they thought it was too dangerous. they told me a day or two ago there was a continual bombardment of the area. that has not left up. in rafa alone the death toll for

today standing at 71. now this tunnel operation as you say wrapping up but the israelis warning that the military offensive does continue. it's just going into another state. and, wolf, you mentioned that number of rockets being fired by hamas. 80 sings midnight. what we have seen here in the last couple of hours or so, the number of rockets which are leaving gaza has really picked up. >> reporter: about 80 as i said. so far today they're dealing with those rockets. they're also dealing with what they described as extensive mortar fire along the border as israeli troops, tanks, armored personnel carriers begin their withdrawal from gaza. that could take a day or two i'm told. the border fort worthing is escalating at this time. they still have by all accounts, john, at least 2 or 3,000 rockets. that's what israeli intelligence believes. is that what you're hearing? >> reporter: yeah, absolutely.

and what we thought hamas was doing over the last couple of days, the number of rockets being fired -- that was inn an explosion. i think that was incoming artillery. it was very loud. it has been fairly close to us. that was far off in the distance. at any rate, as we were saying with the hamas rocket situation, we thought they were actually trying to reserve their ammunition. they staggered the rocket fire over the last couple of days. it certainly has been picking up. you mentioned the israelis. they've fired maybe 3,000 as well. they had 10,000 at the beginning, the idea being maybe they've destroyed 4,000 in those airstrikes and other operations, wolf. >> reporter: john vause, be careful over there. reporting from gaza. other breaking developments in the middle east, israel will not send a delegation to cease-fire talks in egypt. an official palestinian delegation has arrived in cairo.

here's how a spokesperson for prime minister benjamin netanyahu describes the path ahe ahead. >> our faith in hamas's ability to hold their fire is at an all-time low. >> reporter: there's no cease-fire? >> at the moment israel is pursuing our operation in a way that we think is best. we are re-deploying forces to finish. we're finishing up the operation on the tunnels. we continue to hit their rockets. ultimately israel will re-deploy after we've succeeded the maximum goals. >> reporter: when you say redeploy, several,000 troops have moved back into israel. is that what redeployment means? >> in essence, yes. >> reporter: stay with cnn for all the latest news from israel and gaza. 1:00 p.m. eastern i'll speak live with a special u.n. envoy for the middle east, robert siri and daniel shapiro. that's live. a special edition of "fareed

zakaria gps." "reliable sources" is about to begin. >> i was looking at the washington post. it's been a month since israel has launched their offensive. i also have a wide ranging interview with glen becht to show you. let's begin right where wolf left off. there are two wars going on in the middle east, one fought with weapons and another fought with words. so to look at how this might yeah war is playing out, i invited two of the smartest people i know on this issue who happen to be polar opposites. we have a palestinian who speaks hebrew and has a jewish husband and elliott abrams was a deputy national security advisor under george w. bush. he's at the council on foreign

relations. they joined me in studio to discuss. >> rola, elliott, thank you both for joining me. >> pleasure. >> you look at this and see two different things. so i'm hoping we can find some middle ground. when you see coverage of what's happening in gaza and israel, what bias do you see? >> definitely we shia way on challenging the israeli narrative of what's going on in the ground and what's the end game. >> i don't see that. i see basically the israeli narrative that this is a war they had to go into being challenged by visuals. it's one thing to hear the speeches and agree with them. what you're seeing, a lot of damage, a lot of death, injuries in gaza makes it very hard. i think for viewers to weigh this because you've got sort of one part of your brain is listening and another is looking. >> on cnn international,

christiana amanpour, she had a visitor. >> a lot of the international condemnation has backfired here, made people feel like nobody understands them. >> many people here feel like nobody understands them. is it possible for that to be true but therefore also be a pro israel bias in the american press as you say there is? >> look, i believe that israelis think that most of the -- if you don't agree totally with them, you don't understand them. i think as friends, and as allies, we need to challenge destructive policies. i think the destructive policy of the last 45 years in the west bank department lead anywhere. the last eight years in gaza didn't lead anywhere. maybe elliott can explain it. what do we want to do with the millions of palestinians that are sitting there. you don't want to give them citizenship and you don't want to give them sovereign state? the end game we'll see the cyclical violence. >> you wrote called "the long

war with hamas." >> well, the problem is -- >> against hamas. >> it's easy to say, what's the answer? the problem is that hamas is not for a two-state solution. >> neither is the israeli government. >> you can't make believe that israel can deal with the palestinian authority as if there's no hamas. there is a huge terrorist group here pledged to the destruction of israel. >> you want to establish that which is different. >> when you talk about demill tar rising gaza, you need to come up with a reasonable plan to do that or else it's a silly slogan. >> what can we agree on? what are the facts? >> do we agree, i hope you and i can agree that millions of palestinians deserve either sovereign state or citizenship? do we agree on this? >> oh, i would agree on that, but only if and when israelis can have safety and security. >> i agree. >> >> here we go. >> we agree on this. can we please agree and i hope you will write something about it, that if israel really totally demilitarized like they

did in the west bank, can they seal an agreement with moderate palestinians? >> i'm not sure what you're asking. is it possible for there to be agreement between the palestinian agreement and israel? >> why didn't it happen? it's been in negotiation for the last six years. >> i will tell you why. >> please. >> neither yasir ar ra faf. >> that was six years ago. >> neither yasir ar ra faf nor muhammad abbas would sign an agreement. you know that barack offered and they would not sign an agreement. that's the problem. you have a bigger problem -- >> kerry asked them to sign now. they were willing. >> he was not willing. come on. >> he was. >> he was not willing. >> he was willing. >> different problem now. >> when you see that your settlements where 60 -- 60 settlements 20 years ago today are 200 with 1 million -- >> i must say i don't think this has anything to do with the fact that mrs. a murderous terrorist group in gaza trying to kill as

many israelis -- >> that came in the last eight years. you can't cancel the last 55 years. >> hamas did come come in the last eight years. >> do you agree the palestinian authority -- >> they're not going to disarm hamas. you know the main thing that separates us. >> that you're a man and i am a woman? >> there is a problem here. if we were smarter and listened to each other, we would solve it. there are some problems that are so difficult and the problem of frankly islamic terrorism in the middle east, whether it's in syria, isis or it's hamas in gaza. we don't have a solution. we're not going to have one tomorrow. >> i want to go back to the first point that you made which is visuals matter. there have been complaints from gaza that we don't see hamas. >> it's hard to show obviously. there are other things that are not being shown. israel has a field hospital that

they're serving gazans. during this war more than 1300 truckloads of food and medicine into gaza. you can show that, talk to the truck drivers. >> is that a fair critique? we're not seeing that humanitarian effort? >> we work in the media. when you have a story of bombardment of schools, u.n. schools where kids are dying and died and a bombardment of a market, between that story and a truck, what do you show? i think we show both. the relevance is the human suffering. >> when you look at the casual at this figures you can see it now, a vastly disproportionate number of people that the israel slis killed are men between the ages of 17 and 30. why would that be? because they're targeting soldiers of hamas. >> i don't think schools are soldiers. i don't think markets are soldiers. i know one thing -- >> they make mistakes. we made them in iraq.

we made them in afghanistan. >> these are two different things. >> they're not two different things. >> american wars and this is an israeli war. you can't connect them together. this is not even right for the israelis or the americans. >> every army makes mistakes. do you think the united states didn't accidentally kill civilians in afghanistan. >> they're murdering children on snurps. >> i think there is proportionate force that's been used to hit hamas but in the end many civilians will be casualties. >> 10% of the population of gaza are men between 17 and 30. they are 44% of the casualties. >> i hope when you go back and you write about it or you meet the israeli "figures alls, tell them one thing f. this position will not change us moderates in the middle east will disappear and hamas and extremists and even worse than hamas will come across. >> worse than hamas is a hard concept to deal with right now when they are attempting with

their rockets to kill only civilians. they aren't even rocketing israeli bases. they're rocketing cities. they're trying to kill civili s civilians. >> can we agree that it's sad that you all were on cnn together two years ago on the fareed zakaria program talking about the same topic. >> this is really sad. the fact that we're not finding solutions, questioning or challenging the officials to find solutions, we're talking about the urgency, human catastrophe, shelling but not solutions. >> there is some small agreement about the sadness of it at least. thank you both for joining me. >> thank you for having us. we will have more on the media war later this hour. first, an interview i'm very excited to show you with the one and only glen beck. it includes his startling admissions about his role he says in polarizing the country and it's coming up right after this. many of my patients still clean their dentures with toothpaste. but they have to use special care

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welcome back to "reliable sources." when i say the name glen beck, i know you have some reaction. he is a captivating and controversial figure in the media. might i add, richest. when i hear his name the first thing that comes to my mind are profits. that's because three years ago when he left fox news he started to set up his own web side and office called the blaze.

beck and his company earn 90 million dollars a year. let that sink in for a second. here's the most startling thing about beck. he says he has changed. what he has to say about his role in tearing the country apart, those are his words, are going to surprise you. it definitely surprised me when i spent time with him at his headquarters near dallas, texas. take a look. >> i'm curious what you said about your time at fox news. it was an awful lot of fun and i made a lot of mistakes. i wish i could go back. i think i played a role unfortunately in helping tear the country apart and it's not who we are. you must have been talking about something specific. what did you mean? >> no, i think we all -- i mean, i have -- i have spent the last few years -- when i -- when i -- when i first left i stood -- >> when you left fox? >> yeah. and i stood in my apartment

building in new york city, and it was the night i met bono at spider man. we were sitting back there. they were trying to fix spider man. it was still in reviews. my wife, much to my wife's chagrin, i suggested an alternate ending for it, and it was just this really -- i was the cool kid. for one minute i was the cool kid. it was the day before i was going to go in and say we were leaving. and i walked in and we had this beautiful apartment and i stood in this floor to ceiling glass apartment way up above new york, and i said, how can this be right that we're leaving? it doesn't make any sense. because i felt that we were standing in the wrong place. and my wife, i'm lucky enough to be married to a good enough woman, she said, i'm going to bed. because we had already prayed on it, we had already discussed it.

decision made. and i stood there looking at it and i thought to myself, if you don't leave now, you'll lose your soul because i was just starting to want it. and so leaving and thinking, okay, so what was that experience all about? what have you done with your life? because i'm a man who at 40 hadn't done anything. and now i'm at 50 and i look at the things that i've done that have been good and the things that i've done that unintentionally i -- i feel i've added -- we all have, all of us have added to the situation that we're in right now. not a single member of our society, maybe the dalai lama, but everybody else has played a role in this. so what have i done? i've gone back every day and thought i'd do it all -- if i

knew then, you know, and had the same set of facts, i would do exactly the same thing. but now as i get here and i see we are much more fragile that i thought. i really -- i did not -- >> is it something -- some sort of quote you wish you hadn't said. >> no. >> is there a time you looked out in the crowd and you thought, that's not where i wanted us to be? >> i mean, i don't know what you're driving at, but i -- i look now and say, this is not where we want to be. >> you talk about -- you say you have had a role in helping tear the country apart. i'm wondering, was there a theme on fox that you wish you hadn't continued on? >> no. i will tell you that there is nobody, and you go back and look, just go search the transcripts. you find another show that talked about gandhi, talked about martin luther king, talked about love, talked about god, talked about peace.

>> like i said, it was innovative. >> yeah. i talked about those things all the time. >> and yesterday some people still remember you saying on fox and friends that president obama is a racist. it becomes a cliche, that's all you're known for among some people who have never watched your show. >> and that is unfortunate and it is unfortunate that -- it's unfortunate that we all -- when you live your life five hours a day on live television or radio, you're going to say stupid things and you're going to say things -- because you do it in your cubical, you do it on the air, i'm sure. >> sure. people do it on g chat, facebook, they don't do it from a national podium. >> that's right. >> was the racist comment one of the stupid ones? >> of course it was. but we all -- we all live and

learn. >> and that's what i mentioned when you say figuring things out, that that's been your career. you can hear it on your programs, you talk through things. you change your mind. you evolve your views, and often times media figures are held up as never changing. >> i don't understand that. i don't understand. if you haven't -- if you haven't -- if you don't have a deeper understanding of something, you're dead. you're dead. if you haven't -- if you haven't grown in understanding. i'm not saying -- i'm still a conservative. i still believe the same things that i did. do i -- do i believe in exactly the same way i did with the same -- no. but that's what means -- it means to be alive. >> yes. >> my favorite in my program, i'm still pretty new, are some guest that surprised me that made me think differently about something. >> right. i'm currently -- i'm -- i'm very

fascinated right now with strange bed fellows because i go back in history and i look and i say, i think i have this history wrong. in some ways i have history really wrong and tesla and edison one of them. everybody holds him up. no, tesla is the guy. so who are the teslas of today? >> right. >> who are the people that we should be looking at? i'm fascinated. i'm a devout mormon but i also go to other churches. i'm good friends with some of the biggest pastors and rabbis. i'm good friends with rabbi kula in the upper west side of new york. as liberal as you can get three years ago he department want to have dinner with me. i wasn't too thrilled with it either, but i wanted to talk to him because i sensed there was trouble in the country coming

and we had to start talking to each other. we're good friends now, really good friends. he is teaching me, glenn, here's -- when you say this, here's house i interpret that. and i'll say to him, when you say this, here's how i interpret that. >> i would watch that as a show. >> well, we're thinking about it. >> you've said that you're tired of politics. most people when they hear your name they think political commentator. you say you hate politics. >> i always have. >> now you're being more open about it? >> no. i hate it more than i ever have. >> well, maybe you're talking about it less than you did on headline news or fox? >> yeah. definitely so. i mean, i'm -- i'm still dealing with the issues of the day but i have -- i don't -- i don't have time for poll 2ish shans anymore. >> it gets back to your comment about democrats and republicans. >> yeah. i mean, you know, i'll talk to -- i will make friends with anybody on any side.

you know who i really respect, this is going to come as a shock, in congress is person any sanders. never met the man, but he's a socialist and he says, i'm a socialist and that's just the way it is. i'm this close to a communist and that's how it is and that's what i believe. good for you. good for you. i could -- i could be friends with that man because he tells me who he is. if we can just get past all of the bull crap and just this is who i am, like me, don't like me, agree with me, don't agree with me, that's fine, but i'm going to tell you who i am. and if we're just people of integrity and honor, anything can happen. >> on the one hand you have that consistency. on the other hand, willingness to evolve and adapt and change your mind. how do you square those two? >> what do you mean? >> is it possible to have both? you respect him for knowing who

he is, standing there, on the other hand we're talking about changing your mind and evolving. >> yes. of course. i call them pivot points. i remember when i was on the air, first time i ever talked to mitt romney and he had changed his view on abortion. i thought -- and i said to the audience, you watch. if that man can't tell you exactly the moment he changed, it's a lie. and i got him on the air and i said, so, mitt, tell me, your moment changing on abortion. where did that snap and he said, i'll tell you, glenn, i was sitting at harvard. a scientist came in. he was talking about -- i don't remember what it was, in vitro fertilization or something. he could tell me what the color of the wall was. that's a pivot point. the man saw something and went, i'm wrong. i'm wrong. and he changed.

that is good but people who are waffling, that's not good. >> when you were warning of a perfect storm coming, was that performance? >> in the way i told it, yeah. my job was as i saw it, and i still do, my job is to tell you what i believe is coming and package it in a way that you will come and look at it, then you will decide for yourself. that's my job. so what i said i absolutely believe. a lot of the things that i said and was mocked for, caliphate being one of them, has absolutely all of these things are happening. look at israel. look at what's happening in iraq. you know, so a lot of these things are happening. >> and other things, economic

collapse. the dow is at a record high. there are lots of warnings about stockpiling food, et cetera. >> i still believe that. i still believe that. you can't print $3 trillion. the fed cannot be our biggest lender to china. i know all of the bankers. i know all of the people who have all of their harvard and columbia, you know, economic degrees and they're all trained to think like one group. let me tell you something, when this thing starts to shake apart, god help us all. how do -- how do you print a trillion dollars, 2 trillion dollars? how do you have the fed be our biggest debtor -- i mean, our biggest lender over china. i know what china can do. what does the fed do that they can carry 1 trillion, $2 trillion of our debt? that's all paper games.

show me in history where that's worked? i don't know how it falls apart, but i can tell you, if it doesn't, it's the -- i'm not the crazy one. i'm the one saying in history it's never worked, ever. never not once. >> there is so much here. i want to show you more of my interview with glen right after this quick break. stay with me. from 2000 to 2011, on average 17 manufacturers a day shut down in america. there's no reason we can't manufacture in the united states.

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welcome back. now to more of my interview with glenn beck and his frightening prediction about what might happen if left and right in this country don't start listening to each other. have you veered away from politics in part because it's bad for business and it' better for business to focus on culture and other things that are more uniting? >> better for business if i talk about it but not believe the complaints that i get. better for business. >> about moving away from it?

>> glenn, you're telling us these things. that's what we count on you for. i know, but it's not where i feel i am best served. >> your pr person in preparation for this interview said glenn's focused on principles and values and focusing on lifestyle and not just politics. >> right. >> that's something that's obvious to your listeners for a while but maybe is not as obvious to non-listeners and non-viewers. >> i think, because, again, we view each other as cartoon characters. my daughter said to me, my children when -- generally when we're in the city are not allowed to walk with me, and it's because of my second oldest daughter was walking with me one day, she was 16, we were walking down the street and somebody had shouted something really mean

and walked another block and somebody else got really vicious. walked another block and somebody intentionally clips me and uses foul language and my daughter stopped and she said, why don't people see that you're a dad, too? and i have taken that to heart, that that is something that i should be aware of, too. we're not cartoon characters. we're not just people on television. we're not just people in the white house, we're people. we're humans. and i am -- i am just such an imperfect carrier of that message for so many people, but it's the message i'm -- that is important to me. >> you're someone who really

wants to lower the temperature in the country. >> we have to. we're -- i believe that we are in -- i think we're a country in civil war. i just think we're in a cold civil war. shooting hasn't started, but somebody stupid is going to do something stupid and it will escalate unless we talk to each other. >> how can we lower the temperature when you're still making those kinds of suggestions? i wouldn't call it a prediction, but to talk in that language about a possible shooting civil war? >> i'm not calling for one. >> no. >> i'm saying -- i'm saying you can't tell me that -- and maybe because you live in -- i don't mean this as a slam. you live in new york so you're very isolated, but when you talk to people you're telling me that you don't sense that people are so angry with each other that, you know, they're the enemy. read online.

read the comments. it doesn't matter -- >> i live more outside new york than i do in new york. you're right about that. >> you read the comments. you read them on the "huffington post" or on the blaze or cnn or fox, doesn't matter. doesn't matter. they're all the same, left and right. we're calling each other horrible things. >> you used the word balkanization. >> yes. >> doesn't having a channel like the blaze cause balkanization. >> have you watched our channel? >> i've watched enough of it. you do have a number of conservative hosts. it's not that you have the same number of liberal hosts. >> wait a minute. i don't think it's important that we -- that i balance the point of view i have somebody who absolutely disagrees with me. >> good point. >> what is important is we treat each other with respect. we treat each other -- and don't get me wrong. i just talked about this on the radio today. >> about fair and balanced. kind of a post fair and balanced

way to describe what you're doing. >> being fair. being fair. not calling each other names. and we were just on the air. i've been in radio since i was 13 years old and so have my cohorts. they've -- we do a radio show. it's a stupid radio show, but all of a sudden in the last ten years it's become very important. since september 11th it's important somehow. that's not -- that's not what -- what? who am i? i remember when september 11th happened and i got down on my knees. it was the week i started on radio -- on talk radio. who am i? i don't have any answers. who am i? >> no one did. >> i'm just a guy just like everybody else trying to figure it out. this week we were on, yesterday and today, saying, okay, i really want to call that person a fat head but that's wrong, you know?

we have to change all of our language and it's really difficult, especially when people on both sides, i know there are people who are watching me and say, you know, the guy's full of crap. he's just an act. he's doing it for money. i don't like him. all the things he said in the past -- whatever. and i can put somebody else in this chair, you know, i don't know, somebody else from the other side sitting in the chair and there would be other people on the other side saying exactly the same thing. >> sure. >> stop. stop. stop. stop. >> love him or hate him, glenn beck is one of a kind. he's building a media empire that might be a model for other people. next week i'll show you more of my meeting with him about his business and empire and what his

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and asking what would you do? you can also see it in this pro palestinian glafk shows bombs being dropped on kids. the caption says the safest place in gaza is away from children. with red news blue news we usually focus on partisan media here in the u.s. this week we've seen a whole lot of talk here about the pictures from gaza. the horrible pictures of death and destruction. msnbc's joe scarborough surprised people with this remark on his morning show on thursday. >> this is just -- this is as si nine. this continued tilling of women

and children in a way that appears to be indiscriminate is assinine. >> this is so bad, scarborough said, not just for us but the people. fox news ann coulter sees it differently. this is red news. she brought this up on "hannity." she says america should learn something from israel's border security. >> we need a netanyahu here. can you imagine? yes, sometimes palestinian kids get killed. that's because they are associated with a terrorist organization that is harming israel. >> provocative. and here is a provocative thought about media complicity. this is from two contributors to national review. they wrote on saturday about the death of civilians in gaza. they say they're part of hamas's

plan. a plan to gain sympathy. the western media are playing precisely the role that the leaders of hamas hoped they would play, acting as the distribution arm of the terrorist organization. i know some reporters who are in gaza who would disagree. let me know what you think on twitter and facebook. let's keep discussing this after the break as well. talk about the media's role covering violence and social media's role as well. my next guest helped me understand it better. you'll hear from them after this.

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just look up the twitt twitter #gazaunderattack. manufacture gruesome than you'd ever see on tv. and, of course, you'll see arguments about who is to blame. it's partly because of social media. the new york magazine staff writer declared with a bold headline, israel is losing the american media war. so a little bit earlier, i asked him why. >> well, thanks for joining me. >> of course. >> so you wrote for the magazine, american audiences are seeing the story of the conflict perhaps more than ever before through palestinian eyes. tell me what you think about that. >> the iconic images over the last 3, 3 1/2 weeks. each one is very similar. they're the two u.n. shelters in gaza schools that were hit. scenes at hospitals in gaza. and every one of them, you see palestinian civilians under israeli attack.

that's been sort of the single consistent theme of the coverage throughout. we're not just talking about social media, we're talking about, you know, legacy media, as well. >> but, of course, they're able to be shared on social media. >> i can't tell you how often in my twitter feed i'm seeing men carrying their children. who are dead. i'm seeing reporters and reporters' assistants with blood covering their press badges. i would say that israel is perfectly happy to lose the media arguments so long as they win the military fight. and i think the imbalance in this whole conflict is that hamas sees it exactly the other way. >> we have not seen nearly as much action around the israel under fire hash tag as we have under the gaza under attack hash tag. >> and there's a good underlying reason. leads with the comparison number of dead. now we have 1,200 or whatever it is, 1,300 palestinians dead and a few dozen israeli soldiers.

once you lead with that, which is a totally reasonable way to lead does shape the story in a particular way. the images right now i think are driving this much more than the text. this is a story with an image imbalance incredibly strong, simply because israeli citizens are not being, you know, successfully killed in the same way the palestinians are. >> and of course, that is in part because the success of the iron dome. >> and to return to the point i made at the beginning, what we see when we look at images of the war on the israeli side where mostly the images of politicians simply because israel's defenses are pretty effective. hamas's attacks are less effective than military attacks. >> thank you so much for joining me. >> it's been great. >> we welcome your feedback right now about this issue. there's so much of it. ben was talking about the images we do see, what about the images we don't see? i've seen a lot of questions online about why news reports --

so are reporters in gaza under pressure by hamas? and only showing civilians and not the people israel calls terrorists? tony maddox says no. our infield reporters have repeatedly say that hamas militants are rarely to be found on the streets of gaza. we have had no intimidation from hamas and received no threats regarding our reporting. so far refused all requests for interviews in gaza. when we come back, more "reliable sources." stay tuned. with my friends, we'll do almost anything.

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for more of that. he'll talk about his business and where he sees his future going. we'll see you next sunday at 11:00 a.m. eastern time. stay tuned for "state of the union" with candy crowley. the company turns prying eyes on the senate and israel turns a deaf ear to critics. today, stopping hamas. israel's war plan. >> translator: we will continue to operate no matter how much time it will take and how much force it will take. >> the latest from jerusalem and gaza. then, deep in the heart of texas, the governor who wants to be president takes on the current one. >> it is time to end our policy of calculated ambivalent and renew our commitment to a strong israel. >> rick perry with us exclusively on the conflict in the middle east, and the immigration crisis at home. plus the cia fesses up. it s