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built for business. right now, another cease-fire is over, attacks have resumed. israel's facing a new round of criticism after one of its missiles killed nine people outside a u.n. shelter. i'll speak with a deputy general of the united nations. can and will israel do more to prevent civilian casualties? i'll speak live with the israeli ambassador to the united states ron dermer. and are divisions within the leadership making any sort of lasting cease-fire impossible? i'll speak again live this hour with nabil shaath, key member of the fatah party.
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hello, i'm wolf blitzer reporting from washington. israel and hamas accuse each other of violating what was supposed to be a temporary cease-fire. the humanitarian truce has ended. what will it take to end the conflict? here are some of the latest developments. the seven-hour cease-fire gave palestinians a chance to stock up on supplies. they crowded into gaza's largest open air market shortly after the truce took effect. those are images in jerusalem. police there disrupted what they're calling a terrorist attack. they shot and killed a man driving an earth mover after he turned over a passenger bus. this video, posted on social media, said to show the moment police responded. israel confirms its forces carried out an air strike on a house in a gaza refugee camp today. gaza officials say an 8-year-old girl was killed. an israeli spokesman denied
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troops ignored a cease-fire because it was an ongoing operation. still, criticism growing loudly after an attack on another united nations shelter. nine people were killed there. >> when you have a situation where innocent civilians are killed in gaza, there's more that israel can do to hold themselves to their own standards and the united states of all countries has experienced this in places like afghanistan. we're saying they need to hold themselves to their own standards and do more here in gaza. >> the state department spokeswoman speaking out earlier today on "new day." israel says it's reviewing what happened but no ordinance fell inside the school. let's get to the very latest on what's happening inside israel. jake tapper joining us from jerusalem. both israel and hamas accusing each other of violating what was supposed to be a brief humanitarian cease-fire. didn't last very long. hamas never even actually agreed to that israeli proposal.
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so what's going on now? give us a sense of what israel's next move might be. >> well, we're told that much of the ground campaign in gaza is coming to something of a close. at least a slowdown. when we were near the border with gaza earlier today, wolf, we saw evidence that tanks and armored personnel carriers seemed to be leaving the region, being pulled back. but obviously, the strikes continue. there was the strike at the refugee camp. the strike at that school in rafah in southern gaza. i spoke with somebody from the united states earlier today who told me that the strike was, indeed, outside the school. it hit two members of islamic jihad, palestinian islamic jihad who idf says they were targeting. but then it also killed a number of others, including a guard for that u.n. school turned shelter. a volunteer and several very
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young children. and the question the u.n. is asking is if they were following these two members of palestinian islamic jihad, why did they have to strike at that time, as it was near the shelter? then of course, wolf, there's been violent activity today here in jerusalem. there was an event with an arab israeli taking a mechanical equipment and overturning a bus, killing an orthodox jew, a 25-year-old, then being killed by police himself. then a gunman on a motor bike shooting and injuring severely an israeli soldier near the campus of he brbrew university. >> a relatively new development, what's going on in jerusalem right now. jake, we've heard of other incidents, obviously, closer to the border with gaza, but now it's hitting jerusalem. i guess that must be a major source of concern. let me read to you and viewers
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what the prime minister benjamin netanyahu said today. help sai he said the campaign in gaza is continuing. this operation will end only when quality and security are restored to the citizens of israel for a lengthy period. when you were driving down south towards the border with gaza, did you see on the roads like tanks and armored personnel carriers heading north, heading away from the gaza border or redeploying in the area? >> they seem to be redeploying. but they were being pulled away from the border on to the road. it was very difficult to tell where exactly they were going. of course, israel's defense force doesn't always exactly announce what they're doing next. i should say, we were in ashkelon, which is north of gaza. shortly after we left there, the alarms went off. there was a rocket fired, i believe, from gaza into that regi region. we were at a kibbutz very close
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by. we were there and shortly after we left there, a missile was fired -- a rocket, rather, was fired from gaza, into israel. we saw evidence of mortar being -- having hit in that kibutz yesterday as well. so the firing continues. there is no peace of mind. even when we were there during the supposed cease-fire, nobody expecting that it was going to last and everybody on edge, expecting incoming any moment. >> jake will anchor a special "lead" at 4:00 p.m. eastern today from jerusalem. we'll see you at 4:00 p.m. eastern. "the lead" with jake tapper. later tonight, 10:00 p.m. eastern, jake will be back for more, cnn tonight. he's going to be a busy day over the next several days. let's get some more on the situation on the ground in gaza. martin savidge joining us from
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gaza city. the idf confirmed the aerial strike on the refugee camp in gaza. basically just a couple minutes after the cease-fire was supposed to go into effect. what's going on now? what's the reaction there? what are you seeing what are you hearing? >> right now, as you can see, the sun is already set. we're starting to slide into another night of darkness here. there's no power, so it's going to be pretty dark, except for those fortunate enough to maybe have a generator. there was no cease-fire today. but certainly an easing of fire. that said, there was plenty of outgoing rockets and mortars that were being fired from inside gaza in the direction of israel. and there was also a lot of artillery coming in from israel. obviously in the opposite direction. going to that strike, you mentioned, it was israel that said and declared th ed thid th humanitarian cease-fire. two minutes later is when the air strike was carried out on the refugee camp on the beach, killing one child and injuring a
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number of other people. israel says no, that wasn't a violation of the cease-fire. anybody here would say they just don't see it that way. it certainly sounded like a cease-fire was starting at 10:00. 10:02 is after that time hamas was claiming it was a violation of the cease-fire. there were a number of rockets that were fired. but, again, not the intensity during that period that we have come to see. however, after it all ended, yes, then we started to hear the thum thumbp of artillery. we're seeing casualties in the jaffa area that has seen intensive fire. the death toll continues to rise. even though for a while palestinians had a break and a chance to gather things before it started once more, wolf. >> all right, martin savidge. we're going to stay in close touch with you in gaza city. please be careful over there. martin sav onidge reporting. israel facing tough criticism
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over another attack on a u.n. shelter. i'm speak live with the deputy secretary-general of the understanunited nations. and later, reaction from israel's ambassador to the united states. i'll ask him about dealing with hamas, the operations in gaza. we'll hear from former palestinian prime minister nabil shaath. many of my patients still clean their dentures with toothpaste. but they have to use special care in keeping the denture clean. dentures are very different to real teeth. they're about 10 times softer
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israel's coming under sharp criticism over the latest civilian casualties. a strike on a u.n. school being used as a shelter drew strong condemnation from both the united states and the united nations. nine people were killed. the obama administration called the strike disgraceful. the state department says it was appalled. the u.n. called it a gross
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violation of international humanitarian law. the israeli military says the strike targeted three members of islamic jihad on a motorcycle. this is the deputy secretary-general of the united nations. he's joining us live from the u.n. secretary-general, thank you for joining us. israel says it's reviewing what happened at that u.n. shelter. can you tell us what the united nations knows about it? >> well, first of all, we know the tragic consequences of the bombing and the nine or ten people killed and the 27 or so wounded. but the information that we have gathered from our people on the ground point very strongly to the direction of this being an israeli attack. >> and if the israelis say, as they do, that three members of islamic jihad were racing by on a motorcycle, that's why they opened fire, would that alleviate your concern?
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>> not very much. because even if that was the case, according to basic international humanitarian law, you have to take into account that an installation was in the immediate sheltering 3,000 people. almost city warfare. using artillery or air attacks is extremely dangerous. it does not square with the principles of both pour porti proportionality, and also to the principle of precaution. that you have to take precaution and you have to protect civilians. >> what about the israeli point that hamas, islamic jihad, they deliberately place themselves in the midst of these civilian, concentrated civilian areas, including united nations shelters, and as a result they
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themselves, hamas, islamic jihad, some other palestinian factions, they are to blame for what happenings. that's the point you repeatedly hear from israeli leader. >> cannot deny in any way that the military installations are close to the civilian. whether that is a conscious act or not, i don't want to speculate in. but the very fact that you have everybody living so close by. that, in fact, is a question of city warfare means that you have to take precautions to make sure that shelters are protected. especially since we are extremely careful to share this information with the israeli defense forces and exact -- given exact location of these shelters. in this case, in rafah, 33 times, to warn them that we had the school there with kids playing at the gate, where this
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occurred. so i would hope that israel would see the enormous importance of living up to these principles of international law and also see the enormous and horrible human effects, what is happening. this is now the seventh attack against an unra install lation, the third school. >> netanyahu says, we have no intention of attack the residents of gaza. i think that the international community needs to strongly condemn hamas and also demand, just as we are demanding, that the rehabilitation of gaza be linked to its demilitarization. is that a realistic proposal, demilitarize gaza, in exchange, israel lifts what the palestinians call the siege, opens up international aid, people can come out, people can live. is that realistic?
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demilitarization in exchange for lifting those restrictions on the residents of gaza? >> what we hope is we achieve what we want to achieve with the 72-hour humanitarian cease-fire that was supposed to start last week. that would have meant that both sides cease the fighting right now without conditions. and that would create a three-day pause in which one could discuss the legitimate concerns of both sides. the israeli concerns about the bombings and the use of tunnels. and the people in gaza, hamas' concern about the blockade. and this was supposed to be discussed in cairo. i would hope that we would go back to that model of finding an agreement to end this, also taking into concern the legitimate worried from the israeli side and the hamas side.
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>> yesterday i spoke with the u.n. special envoy for the middle east. he blamed hamas for the break-up of that 72-hour u.n.-supported cease-fire. do you agree with robert serry, that it was hamas responsible for violating that earlier approved humanitarian cease-fire? >> our statement on friday was based on information we received from the field. we have also received conflicting information. not the least that the israeli soldier was not captured but, in fact, was killed. so we will of course continue to review what exactly happened. what we saw that morning was a breach of the cease-fire, very damaging to what we had planned to do the next few days. >> jan elaisson, the united
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nations deputy secretary-general. we'll stay in close touch with you, thank you very much. up next, i'll speak live with the israeli ambassador to the united states. we'll get his reaction to the criticism now being leveled against israel from both the united nations and from the u.s. what's left to accomplish in the ground war? we'll get his update. stay with us. if you have moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis like me, and you're talking to your rheumatologist about a biologic... this is humira. this is humira helping to relieve my pain. this is humira helping me lay the groundwork. this is humira helping to protect my joints from further damage. doctors have been prescribing humira for ten years. humira works by targeting and helping to block a specific source of inflammation that contributes to r.a. symptoms. humira is proven to help relieve pain and stop further joint damage in many adults.
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i'm quoting now, disgrateful. joining me now is israel's ambassador to the united states. not often you hear a u.s. official calling an israeli reaction disgrateful. >> it was a rush to judgment. you just don't know all the facts. this has happened a number of times where people say certain things about israeli action without knowing all the facts. this is another of those cases. in the same statement, it was said we shelled that facility. we didn't shell the facility. we didn't hit the facility at all. this was a targeted air strike against three islamic jihad terrorists who were on a motorcycle. as to why civilians were killed in that operation, because usually those strikes are very accurate and very pinpoint, that's something we're investigating. >> from a jet fighter you can pinpoint three guys on a motorcycle? >> we're pretty good at targeted strikes. why there were civilian casualties, i don't know. we certainly didn't shell a school. i didn't hear him mention that
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three u.n. schools were used to store rockets. so this is a problem. but we don't target u.n. facilities. we face an enemy that targets our civilians but embeds themselves next to hospitals, schools be an mosques. in this particular case, it was a targeted strike. i'm not sure that israel was the one that killed the civilians around it. we've had a couple of cases, wolf. you know, you were there. where there was attempts to say israel had hit a hospital. israel didn't. then you had another case in a refugee camp where a number of children were killed. again, islamic jihad missile. then a third case saying we hit an open market. the problem is these things are said. there's a rush to judgment without knowing the facts. i think that's wrong. i think it was mark twain who said a lie goes halfway around the world before the truth gets its boots on. everyone should relax. and then you'll know -- people will know what i know, which is no military has done more to put civilians on the other side out
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of harm's way. and this is happening, i heard something else, in the statement. what we do in afghanistan what we do in iraq. israel is under assault. we've had 3,000 rockets every single day. we have two-thirds of our people in bunkers. so imagine how the united states would reaction if 200 million americans were sitting in bunkers. i don't think they would use less force than israel was using. >> this is the number two guy at the united nations and the u.n. deputy general. he said you can't be precise with a jet fighter going after a guy on a motorcycle. >> maybe he's a military expert but israel is pretty precise and we have a situation where our own homeland is under attack. imagine 200 million americans who day after day, 100 rockets are being fired. do you really seriously want to tell me the united states military -- >> do you go to the state department to protest the statement? >> i haven't spoken to that.
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as i said, a number of statements have been made. i think they're very unfortunate. >> she used the word disgraceful. that was cleared by the state department. >> they does not know all the facts. maybe she'll make a different statement. >> it's not just she. you can't just blame jen psaki, she's just the spokeswoman -- >> i'm saying a general rush to judgment about actions israel takes. issue of civilians. people are now putting out these statistics, 85% of people, civilians, that's false -- >> that's what the united nations says -- >> okay, based on what, statistics hamas is giving them. it was said that two-thirds to three quarters of the casualties were civilians. it turns out they were fighters but no one is. >> what is the -- you're saying 900 were militants? >> i don't know if there are actually 1,800 casualties. >> deaths we're talking about. >> i don't know if they're 1,800 death because i don't know what they're lopping into that number. according to our numbers, you're
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talking about one to one. which in urban warfare is unprecedented. and this is happening at a time when we are being rocketed every single day. that's what makes this so different. that's what i think people don't understand. this is not a war by remote control happening thousands of miles away. this is happening when our civilians are rushing multiple times a day. you were there, into -- >> is there any progress emerging from the talks in cairo between a palestinian delegation and the egyptian government? >> we'll have to seat developments over the next few hours. we've had seven different cease-fires -- >> we're hearing these rumors that they may be coming up with a proposal to present to israel. >> well, you know, you've been there for four weeks, we'll see about those rumor -- >> will israel be open to a cease-fire? >> we've had seven cease-fires. they've been violated each time. it's simple to have a cease-fire. all you have to do is stop firing rockets at israel.
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they've not made that decision. >> is the destruction of the tunnels going from gaza into israel complete? >> i understand it's comb complete. it's a question of hours not days. >> so all israeli ground forces are moving out? >> they've been redeployed. >> what does that mean, redeployed? >> it doesn't mean they're necessarily behind the international line, border. we'll just have to see. we're actually putting our forces into place which allows the military objective, to have quiet and security for israel. >> when you heard lizni, the chief palestinian negotiator, saying there's a way israel can build some device around gaza to prevent the rebuilding of those tunnels. what can you tell us? >> i think it's a -- first, we have to have an answer to an essential problem. how do we prevent gaza and hamas in gaza from rearming itself? we don't have a problem with the people in gaza having development. our war is not against the palestinians. our war against hamas.
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we have had three different conflicts with hamas. and now in 2014, we're right back again. how do we make sure there's not a round four? and here, there's a question of what mechanism do you put in place, particularly with egypt, to prevent hamas from simply importing all these rockets from using concrete and iron which should go to build schools and hospitals, to build this underground tunnel network and manufacture these rockets. these are legitimate questions. i get e-mails, i would say, five e-mails a day from people saying we have a brilliant idea of how you can prevent those tunnels from going underneath your borders. i'm not aware of what the best technology is. israel is a high tech country. i'm sure we have bright minds thinking how to solve this problem. >> you're going to the state department to protest that statement? >> i've got a few interviews. maybe after. >> the israeli ambassador to the united states. thank you very much for coming in. >> thank you. both sides are having trouble making a cease-fire
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welcome back. i'm wolf blitzer reporting from washington. a temporary humanitarian cease-fire is over. one of the biggest challenges to a longer-term cease-fire may be the device that exists within the palestinian leadership itself. not just between the political and military wings of hamas. our senior correspondent nic robertson joining us from abu dhabi. tell us about what seems to be a significant divide even in hamas between the political wing and the military wing. >> yes, wolf, certainly, there was a lot of questions raised about this on friday, when hamas was accused of breaking the cease-fire, breaking that truce, after it had barely begun. when i had cakhaled meshaal, th
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political chief in exile, of hamas, if the political leadership could really control the military on the ground. he said they could. he told me this when i asked him the same question about four years ago in 2010 when again, hamas' leadership was accused of falling apart. he's sticking to the same position. what we saw today, the cease-fire today that hamas didn't sign up to, again, that's raising questions. why didn't they do it? what we can see from hamas' position here and what khaled meshaal told me on saturday is that having signed up to a cease-fire but not the -- not under the terms or not signing up to the terms that israel wanted that would allow this cease-fire to go ahead, but they can continue to shut down tunnels. it appears they didn't want to get into the same situation this time. this time, israeli troops went
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on a cease-fire. they stayed in rafah in the south of the gaza strip. hamas, perhaps not wanting to get caught out, as they would see it, this time not signing up. but what we do see at the end of the day is that they have, by and large, observed the truce by not firing a multitude of rockets into israel. one of the things that khaled meshaal said to me, wolf, was that he does want these humanitarian truces for the palestinian people to be able to regroup and resupply themselves. not a lasting cease-fire but these short truces. so at this stage it's hard to really say there absolutely is this divide between political and military because the intent seems to be in the same direction. past track record seems to show they can come through this united, wolf. >> sit interesting, now that israel says they've basically
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completed the job of destroying the tunnels going from gaza into israel, has begun redeploying or withdrawing its ground forces from gaza. that may, may, open up the door for some sort of cease-fire. we'll see in the coming day or two what emerges from cairo from the talks going on there between the palestinian delegation and the egyptian government. nic, thanks very much. nic robertson from aub abu dhabi. up next, we'll get more on the hamas political leadership. and can israel be brought back to the negotiating table in cairo? you do a lot of things great.
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and get the fastest wifi included. comcast business. built for business. as you foe, israel called for humanitarian cease-fire earlier today in gaza. it was limited to areas where israeli troops weren't already involved in operations. hamas rejected that cease-fire proposal. let's get some palestinian perspective. nabil shaath is a former palestinian former minister. he's joining us from ramallah. nabil shaath, where does it stand right now? we're hearing suggestions, rumors, coming out of cairo that maybe there's some sort of breakthrough in the talks between the palestinian delegation there, meeting with egyptians and others. where do the talks stand as far as you know right now?
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>> well, as far as i know, the palestinian delegation is committed to reach a cease-fire agreement. we're ready to practice a cease-fire agreement. but the most important part, which is the invading israelis, are not there. they're not in cairo. therefore, the party that you need to knnegotiate with is absent. you have a small american delegation. the egyptians are listen to the palestinians. but there is no negotiating party from the israelis. and therefore i really wonder what -- whether the israelis want a cease-fire. what they're doing is something called a unilateral withdrawal which keeps them in gaza, keeps the bombing on. yesterday, they killed 143 civilians. today, so far, about 50 civilians have been killed. we don't really have a cease-fire on the ground. >> now that the israelis say
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they completed their operation destroying those tunnels going from gaza into israel, they're redeploying their forces even as we speak. that's what we're told. is there a breakthrough possible? do you suspect now that the israelis think the major part of their military operation is over? >> well, the israelis are now trying to finish rafah, the rafah area, the southeastern area. that's why all the killing in the last two, three days is in rafah. but most of those killed are civilians, are children and women. and the excuse for not going through the humanitarian cease-fire was the missing israeli officer in the invading parties. but then this israeli officer was buried yesterday. and there is no excuse anymore. they are still not there. this question of unilateral
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withdrawal does not commit them to anything. does not commit them to a cease-fire, nor does it commit them to the aftermath of a cease-fire, which is giving a decent life to the palestinians in gaza and eventually ending occupation. and that is really the problem. where do we go from here? the delegation is still in cairo. the palestinians are committed to a cease-fire. but the israelis are calling it a unilateral one, which allows them to bomb whenever they want to. >> you heard -- i don't know if you heard, but nic robertson, our robereporter, he did an interview with meshaal. he said there is a significant split within hamas itself, between the political wing and the military wing, and that's a potential problem as far as a cease-fire is concerned. i'm anxious to get your analysis of that, nabil shaath. >> well, that problem did exist in the early days of the war.
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in fact, in the days before the beginning of the war. but the fact is that today there is five members of the leadership of hamas and two members of the leadership of jihad are in cairo, and they are in the delegation led by the plo, led by a fatah senior person, mr. maham ahmed, ordered, in effect, by president abbas, and they are all unanimous on what needs to be asked, and where their commitment will be. really have followed our side at least in the cairo negotiations, and they are almost unanimous on willingness to accept a cease-fire and to accept the aftermath of a cease-fire, which is ending the siege of gaza primarily. >> i know the israelis speak directly to high officials in
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the egyptian government. is there still a dialogue between israeli officials and palestinian authority officials right now? because i sense that potentially could be productive. but give me your analysis. >> there is direct contact here in the west bank from our security people. but we really abstained from any contacts in cairo except through the egyptians. the palestinian delegations is only talking to the egyptians. the egyptians are talking to the americans and possibly to the israelis or maybe the americans are talking to the israelis. it's a very long chain here of communication. but it doesn't get us, so far, anywhere, because the casualty is still continuing and the civilian losses are still there. therefore, that line of communication could have been broken, had the israelis been in cairo. had they really been committed to a cease-fire, they should
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have been in cairo. >> if the israelis do show up in cairo, nabil shaath, would all of them sit around the same table, egypt, the palestinians, the israelis, the u.s., if they want to participate, turkey, qatar, all of them would be around the say table and be hashing out an agreement? is that the vision you would like to see? >> that's the vision i'd like to see. but the agreement so far, the egyptian initiative so far, does foot provide for such a roundtable. it provides for, again, we talk to egyptians, the egyptians talk to israelis and then the israelis talk back to the egyptians. still if these three delegations were in cairo, really authorized to talk, seriously, about peace and about ending that aggression on gaza and a real cease-fire, it is certainly going to be much
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easier and much better than this long chain of communication via the capitals, instead of being in the same place in cairo. >> nabil shaath, senior official in the palestinian authority, former foreign poliminister, th you for joining us, nabil shaath joining us from ramallah on the west bank. >> thank you, thank you very much. >> and we're just getting word in to cnn that the former white house press secretary james brady has died. he was press secretary to president ronald reagan. as you know, he was shot during an assassination attempt on the president. he was seriously wounded, permanently disabled by a bullet wound to the head. he and his wife, sara, later became advocates for much stronger gun control laws in the united states. the brady bill, by the way, became the law of the land in 1993. it inposed waiting periods for handgun purchases, established background checks for gun purchases. james brady was 73 years old.
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and we're going to talk a little bit about james brady. i worked with him. i knew him well. very, very wonderful man. in fact, gloria burniorger is h with me now, our senior political analyst. we used to talk to him all the time. talked to him in the years that followed. he became very passionate on this issue together with sara. >> on this issue of gun control, you know, it's been more than 30 years since the assassination attempt, and they both devoted their lives. he was permanently disabled as a result of this shooting. and they both devoted their lives to gun control and to preventing gun violence with varying degrees of success, wolf, as we all know, not as much as they would have wanted. but he did remain press secretary, even though he couldn't continue in that job until the very end of reagan's term. and he was affectionately known
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by people as "the bear," a warm and lovable guy. >> they renamed the press briefing room -- >> they did, the james s. brady briefing room. >> was a really good press secretary too. he was able -- what good press secretaries can do, to convey the positions of the president of the united states. hold on, let's listen to josh earnest, the current white house press secretary, speaking about james brady. >> -- on afghan elections, bumpy process, as far as the counting of votes -- >> get that tape, play for you what the current white house press secretary says. but james braid yshgs brady, really, really good guy. dead at age 73. we'll be right back. new car sml and the freedom of the open road? a card that gave you that "i'm 16 and just got my first car" feeling. presenting the buypower card from capital one.
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let's get your business rolling now, everybody sing. ♪ norfolk southern what's your function? ♪ ♪ helping this big country move ahead as one ♪ ♪ norfolk southern how's that function? ♪ a humanitarian cease-fire ended shortly after it began. vowed to continue the campaign in gaza until calm is restored. the u.s. and the u.n. had some of their harshest criticism of israel, condemning the strike. washington called the attack disgrateful. let's bring back gloria borger, global affairs correspondent. very strong words. you cover the state department, alicia. you know this. for them to say disgraceful, in terms of an israeli action, that's a big deal. >> that's about the toughest
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criticism i've heard from the united states against israel in my many years covering the state department, wolf. and i think it reflects a growing consensus, both here in washington and overseas and capitals that while hamas did start this, while they are responsible for the rocket attacks and tunnels that when you look at the mounting casualties, civilian casualties on the palestinian side, it's time now, enough is enough, what i'm told, by many officials. and it's time to end the operation. and you heard the israeli ambassador, very defensive about what the u.s. is saying. saying, listen, don't rush to judgment. and i understand he'll be reaching out to the administration to protest what they thought was a real unfair state. >> and last week, you heard the president walk a fine line here. on the one hand, he gave israel unequivocal support. no questions asked. that was friday. but he also talked about the civilian casualties, the unnecessary civilian casualties. he made that a large part of his statement. it's very clear that both the
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president and the state department are saying, look, we're on your side. don't make us egive indicate. there is a limit to what we can do when we see this kind of civilian casualty. >> there is an inevitability that israel has a right to defend itself comes up against those pictures wee see on the air and the civilian deaths, which always are going to be asymmetrical, just because of the sheer power of the israeli military. and we're reaching up for it right now. and the u.s. officials are also saying, listen, you see that we have iron dome. those rockets are not making that much damage. and also, some of these big crises that furthered the conflict, like the kidnapped teens, which now it's a little bit in doubt whether it was hamas. this israeli soldier turns out not to be captured, he was killed. they're sending the message, listen, israel has to maintain credibility. >> we'll stay on top of this story, guys. thanks very much. obviously, a little bit of a
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strain right now, shall we say in u.s./israeli relations. >> a lot of strain. >> we'll see how long it takes to patch it up, if they can do it. what happens on the israeli side, u.s. side. they'll work hard. thanks very much for watching. i'll be back, 5:00 p.m. eastern, a special two-hour edition of "the situation room." much more coming up on that. "newsroom" with brooke baldwin will start after a quick break.
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hi there, i'm brooke baldwin. you're watching cnn. a deadly day in jerusalem as the crisis unfolds rapidly in the middle east. at least one person is dead, and five others are injured after what israeli police call a terror attack. what you're looking at here, this is aftermath of the scene. officials say a backhoe slammed into a passenger bus, overturned it, the driver, a 20-year-old palestinian, shot dead by authorities. we are also learning about a separate act of violence on the streets of jerusalem, involving a man on a motor bike who opened fire
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