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seems so inprobable. so many said they were sold to slavery, some said to act as suicide bombers. we'll keep covering this story, we'll keep covering this story, thank you for watching, -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com good evening. thanks for joining us. there is breaking news on ebola, late today, the centers for disease control put the operations center on the highest alert since the h1n1 flu alert as dr. sanjay gupta witnessed firsthand. >> while we were here, the activation level just went up to level one, just in the last couple minutes. what does that mean? >> well tell you his answer shortly. we begin with urgent efforts in cairo to extend the seize fire. president obama's take on it. a short time ago, the president wrapped up a press conference. >> we intend to support the process that's takes place in egypt. i think the short-term goal has
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to be to make sure that rocket launchers do not resume, that the work that the raisraeli government has done has been completed and that we are now in the process of helping to rebuild a gaza that's been really badly damaged as a consequence of this conflict. >> he had more to say long term about hamas and who he trusts. joining us now jim accoosta. what did the president say? >> anderson, this was some of toughest statements to date on the situation in gaza. he took aim at hamas saying he had no simple though for hamas, drawing a line between the militant group and rest of the palestinian people saying hamas has been extraordinary irresponsibly launching rockets from civilian areas at israel
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inviting what the president was saying counter attacks from israel. here is more of what the president had to say. >> i have no simple though for hamas. i have great simple thigh for ordinary people who are struggling within gaza, and the question then becomes, can we find a formula in which israel has greater assurance that gaza will not be a launching pad for further attacks, perhaps more dangerous attacks as technology develops in the country? but at the same time, ordinary palestinians have some prospects for an opening of gaza so that they do not feel walled off and incapable of pursuing basic prosperity. >> jim, as you noted, twice he used the phrase i have no sympathy for hamas. >> he said it twice, anderson, and he also mentioned he had
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sympathy for the palestinian civilians who have been killed in this conflict but it's interesting what the president said at this press conference about not having sympathy for hamas and the strong language yesterday when the department issued that statement after that shelling that israeli shelling of that un site, that un school, it happened near the school about ten civilians were killed when the state department said that this was appalling, that it was a disgraceful shelling, i think the president coming out and really pointing the finger back at hamas making sure that the people in israel know who have been pretty concerned about the president's statements and the strained relations between the obama administration and the netanyahu government, they know the presidencys that israel has a right to defend itself. i thought that was striking to hear that from the president tonight. >> appreciate it. israel's prime minister spoke out and declared operation in gaza success, praised the troops and defended tactics. obviously, he said that before
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showing video of hamas firing rockets from civilian areas. he said this is what the idf was up against. several such video haves surfaced including this of a rocket launched during a france 24's live shot. loo look. >> okay, are you all right? >> yeah, can you hear me? >> yeah. >> what happened? >> this was a rocket. this was a rocket. rockets were just shot right next to where we're standing. >> benjamin netanyahu says it seems like this explains a lot and some israelis don't justify tactics. jake tapper joins us from jerusalem. you watched the prime minister speaking, what else did he have to say? >> the prime minister was making an aggressive case and doing so in english, not that odd for netanyahu who spent some youth in philadelphia and speaks the language very well, but it is unusual for a press conference
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to be given in english because, of course, this is not the primary tongue here in israel. it's arabic or hebrew more -- mainly. but he was trying to speak to an international audience. he was trying to talk not to the ra israeli people, to americans, to europeans because there has been such criticism of the innocent civilians who were killed in the idf strikes, the prime minister making a case that they were, a lot of the casualties were unavoidable because of hamas tactics and saying israel has a right, indeed an obligation he said to defend itself. take a listen. >> nearly everyone says that they support israel's right to defend itself and we appreciate those who say this, but there are those who refuse to recognize or to let israel exercise that right. they would allow hamas to attack
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with impunity because they say they are firing from schools or mosques or hospitals and israel should not take action against them. that's obviously a mistake. that's a moral mistake. it's an operational mistake because that would value dade and legitize hamas use of shields and a devastating effect to the free societies fighting terrorism. >> now, anderson, as you know, it has been very difficult to find palestinian leaders willing to condemn the hamas and islam make jihad tactic from population centers that the frequent response is that gaza is very densely populated and it's very difficult to fire from anywhere else. i'm not sure that that passes the basic test because there are obviously spaces next to schools and hospitals and spaces that are not but prime minister netanyahu today making an
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aggressive case to the rest of the world, to the english-speaking world that israel was doing what it needed to do, anderson. >> jake, appreciate the update. we'll follow how each side is explaining to themselves and the world what is nearly a month of death in destruction. the palestinian view point from former advisor to the palestinian leadership. good to have you on the program. tough words for hamas from prime minister netten ya hood, not surprising. does that make the negotiations going on in cairo more difficult? >> i don't think there is much new there. they put together a video monotaj and have wrapped it up nicely for the international press, but the messaging is essentially the same as it has been the past 28 days. hamas is to blame. they use human shields. i'm not sure it will have an impact one way or the other on
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the political talks happening in cairo. >> you look, i mean, at the video that you talked about, there is a france 24 video, rockets are being fired a few feet away from houses from a un facility. how does hamas justify that? i mean, do they even acre knowledno, ma'am -- acre knowledge they do that? >> i don't think they acknowledge they do that. i don't know how they respond to those specific allegations but i can tell you from my standpoint, i think it's a very disturbing development. any time you see this sort of thing, but i would also kind of caution that we keep this in perspective. this is not the reason why there are 70 to 80% of the casualties are civilians. it's not because hamas is launching from near schools and hospitals and apartment buildings. those instances in which it does
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happen, there may or may not be casualties. i haven't seen indications or a connection between those instances and actual casualties. some of the schools, for example, that were highlighted in previous instances were actually empty and not in use. regardless, it is a tactic, if that's what they are doing but it's not the primary reason you have such high civilian casualties. >> so what do you believe the reason is? >> well, the reason is what israelis have told us. their military doctrine based on overwhelming disproportion forest. this is not something they keep a secret. if there is disproportion damage, it's designed to be a deterrent, if you overwhelm the infrastructure and knowing
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you're going to, they have a high tolerance for the casualties they are willing to except and it's part of the plan. so this is what israel calls the doctrine they they use over and over. they use it in gaza. >> you're not saying that -- but you don't believe israel is intentionally targeting civilians, do you? >> i'm not saying that at all. i'm saying this notion they are doing everything they can to avoid civilian casualties is not the case. you do not kill 1800 civilians because you're doing everything you can to avoid casualties and because we know the military
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doctrine is based on the force. >> if they were going to kill civilians, they could kill more. you don't believe there is credence to the idea this is a density populated area. this is urban come panel and you're fighting an enemy, which, you know does fire rockets from empty lots nearby buildings that has booby trab booby traps in h >> that does not justify the killing of 1800 civilians, if there are more children killed than fighters, there is a problem with the way the war is conducted. it's not about israeli right to self-defense. of course israel has a right to self-defense but self-defense, proportionality is a tenant of
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international law so when you intentionally use disproportion et force, you'll cause harm and that is i think a violation of international law, but regardless of what i think, at the end of the day what is needed is an international investigation to look at instances if hamas is using people as human shields, if they are firing recklessly endangering the lives of palestinian civilians, or whether israel is doing recklessly endangering the lives of civilians, that needs to be determined by an international investigation and that's the only way that we will prevent these kinds of things from happening in the future, regardless who is to blame. >> appreciate you being on. thank you very much. >> thank you. coming up next, we'll take you to cairo for peace talks and with two ebola patients
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two days into a three-day seize fire, with talks underway in cairo, the following late developments, joining us from cairo, so what do we know?
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how are the negotiations going? >> anderson, it has been very difficult to monitor and gauge these talks because these have been indirect negotiations that have been held in secret, but in a nutshell, it looks like at this hour, the israelis are pushing to extend the seize fire beyond 8:00 a.m. friday, however, hamas not on board. they are saying they don't want to extend the seize fire. they want to talk right away and address some of the major issues and that's where the two sides seem to be stuck, and when you look at the talks today, you start to see the lingers mistrust between the two sides that fueled this conflict for a very long time, and at this point, it doesn't look like these two sides are on the same page when it comes to this seize fire and how things should move forward. in talking to a palestinian delegate, he told cnn he's not convinced this israeli delegation that's in cairo is
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authorized to address some of hamas' core demands. those, of course, include the lifting of the block aid, opening of some boarder crossing, release of some of the prisoners. remember, hamas says it stopped fighting and it came here to cairo to address some of these issues and they are not convinced israelis are here to do the same. we should stress we haven't verified what this team is authorized to do and we had another statement later on in the day by an egyptian official that raised a question, describing the status of the talks by saying this, these are an experimental discussion in order to consolidate the seize fire. that's a statement that suggests that these two sides are simply talking about the parameters, the frame works or current seize fire and not tackling the big issues. so the good news is that these talks have stopped the fighting, but it's rough going. they seem to be, you know, moving forward very slowly not
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making much progress. >> appreciate the update. i want to dig deeper with the woodro wilson center that advised secretaries of state and princeton's university daniel. daniel, the u.s. special on ven what can you u.s. do to hammer out a deal because you note u.s. and israel relations are less than ideal? >> well, egypt certainly has the lead and they were successful a couple weeks ago getting israel on board in initial seize fire. what the united states can do in a helpful role is to address some israeli concerns, kind of off the table. the israelis don't want the united states in the room. they think that we've tended to be a little too balanced in this case, but at the end of the day, the egyptians are going to have a hard time themselves addressing the requirements of the two sides, and i think the
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united states can play a helpful role particularly with the israeli side in dealing with some security issues. >> aaron, in your latest column you gave a letter to the parties involved and gave the u.s. a c, why? >> look, as dan knows, getting anything done, anything done in the negotiation, even when you don't have a confrontation going on is excruciatingly painful. you basically had the united states try twice. once by trying to involve the cutries and turks, which is bad for egyptians and of course, israelis and relying on assurances from hamas' political wing and the cutries that the military wing that was actually doing the fighting was prepared to accept a 72-hour seize fire. we're 0 for 2 here. i'm not trying to hammer or beat up on john kerry. the basic impulse is to try to
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get yourself in the mix. the mix wasn't cooperating and it really did require the egyptians, tense relations with hamas, closer relations with israel to try to at least create a basis on which to stop the fighting and then to pursue what can get done in cairo is going to be very hard to create a durable agreement. >> ambassador, do you believe the use of force was proportion et? >> it's hard to argue it was proportion et given the casualties but anderson, you were there, you saw it. this is a challenge. hamas did embed itself within a civilian population. they launched rockets from hospital courtyards and schools and so forth. the israeli population, although protected by the iron dome missile system was still disrupted for over a month,
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large number of soldiers being mobilized for service and you do have a regular army fighting against a band of terrorists who have adapted themselves to the tactics that they require. so it's really a significant challenge and i think the -- this whole issue of to portion nalty is blown out of proportion. the state that has a right to defend itself is going to act to defend itself and i think the israelis as we know and as i believe have not targeted civilians. one of the unfortunate consequences here is the large number of casualties and the large amount of destruction in gaza. >> aaron, there is even a conflict between israelis and palestinian officials over death toll. israel now said they killed some 900 militants palestinian figures of some 1800 people say 75% of them, at least were civilians. do you have confidence in anybody's numbers?
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>> the casualty statistics for '08, '09, have not been agreed. there, the israelis claim that roughly 40% of the 1300 palestinians killed were combatants. hamas operatives. and, you know, palestinian hospitals are not taking any distinction between who is an innocent civilian caught up in this and hamas fighter. so no, you're never going to figure this out, and the problem is the pictures, anderson. if you want to ask me what is motivating the president more than anything else, i'm not sure he's as invested as secretary of state in a durable agreement, let alone a two-state solution. i really think what drove him were the pictures and i think the desire to change the channel and to get a stand down was really critically important for the israelis, for the americans and egyptians, as well.
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the question is will it hold beyond friday morning? that's a serious problem right now. >> well, no matter what the actual numbers and as you said, there is this difference and has been in conflicts in the past, i mean, we certainly saw tremendous amounts of children, of people who were not combatants being injured in this as we do in many confliblgts. the ebola outbreak in west africa bringing the cdcs operation center to the highest level. dr. sanjay gupta takes us inside the cdc. the search is over at least for now flight 17. we'll tell you why. have copd. i'm j-e-f-f and i have copd. i'm l-i-s-a and i have copd, but i don't want my breathing problems to get in the way of hosting my book club. that's why i asked my doctor about b-r-e-o. once-daily breo ellipta helps increase airflow from the lungs
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welcome back. the breaking news, the cdcs emergency operation center is what it's called the highest activation level. sanjay gupta will take us inside in a moment but the world health organization and the cdc released numbers today, more than 900 people are dead in guinea, nigeria, sierra leone with 800 cases in two days.
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here in the united states, fears of a possible ebola case in new york were put to rest today. that's the good news. a patient in isolation in manhattan tested negative and in atlanta two americans are continuing to get treatment at emery university hospital. the director of the cdc calls it the most complex in history and says it can be stopped but it will take many, many months and will not be easy. sanjay gupta takes us inside the cdc. take a look. >> reporter: this is the cdcs emergency operation center. think of it as the nerve center to the response to the ebola outbreak. just a few minutes after i walked in, phones and blackberries started buzzing everywhere. while we were here, the activation level went up to one in the last couple minutes. what does that mean? >> that means more people and more resources dedicated to the response. >> reporter: in that room, you could feel a quiet determination
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and a sense of urgency. let me give you an idea how this works. what you're looking at is what the cdc looks at, a map of the world to find out what infectious diseases are happening and where. as you might imagine, a lot of focus on ebola. they are tracking that realtime. they have been doing it since march. take a look in here. this jumped out at me. mid may, they thought things were under control but look at the beginning of june. everything takes off. this is on its way to becoming the worst ebola outbreak in history. >> this is our emergency operation center or eoc as we call it. >> reporter: dr. steven monroe is helping lead the cdc's ebola response, not an easy task at all. >> was there mistakes made? is there a reason why this outbreak is worse than any other outbreak in history? >> the initial event, the lightning strike was in the corner between three countries in a very remote part of each of those countries so it quickly spread across the boarders.
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>> reporter: many more resources are needed and some of it is on the way. the cdc is sending 50 more people to the region in the next month. dr. meredith dixson just returned from two tours in the remote part of guinea where she was trying to help control the outbreak. >> one day we were removed because there were rumors a group of young men would be coming to destroy the treatment center because they wanted to destroy ebola. >> reporter: she says that situation never escalated but it shows the hurdles and confusion the health workers face there. here in the united states, a different sort of confusion. different questions. for example, if ebola is not airborne, then why were there such extraordinary precautions taken for dr. kent brantly and ms. whitebol. >> we're confident any large hospital can handle an ebola case if one were to show up at the doorstep using traditional isolation rooms with negative
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pressure room and traditional droplet and respiratory precautions. >> reporter: and while i suited up in multiple layers when i was in guinea earlier this year, the cdc says a mask, goggles, face shield, protective gown and gloves can provide all the protection you need for most situations. >> sanjay joins me from atlanta. the new york patient tested negative. that's good news. what is the cdc doing to help hospitals prepare for other potential cases? >> they are doing quite a bit. there is a lot after variation in terms of knowledge and resources and how people are implementing, you know, the concerns about ebola to their patients, that patient for example, patient traveling through west africa, had fever, abdominal pain, could be a lot of different things. typically a patient like that wouldn't get tested for ebola. they are trying to hone down who will be the highest risk. it has to do with obviously
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travel to that part of the world but most importantly, contact with patients who have been sick. if you've been traveling through that part of the world and have a fever but haven't had contact with patients, you're likely not high risk. you won't need to get tested or take your temperature but it changes if you have been exposed in someway to patient whose are sick. they are drilling down on some details with doctors all over the country. >> and this outbreak is proving so hard to contain just because of where it started and the kind of the lack of ability to gather everybody who had it in isolation? >> yeah, i think so. i mean, so much of this is done on the ground in remote villages. you have workers, cdc world health organization doctors without boarders, they sometimes need to go door to door to find out the contacts of the person who just got sick, maybe the person who just died because those are the people you need to focus on and present them from spreading the infection further.
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here is the problem, many of those people never come in contact with any organized medicine so they never get counted. the numbers that we described could be low as a result but their contacts cannot be traced, as well, because they never got into the system. so they are tracing about 8500 contacts now in that part of the continent but its very hard to know if they have got everybody and almost assuring they don't. >> there are ethical questions we will turn to but appreciate the update. fascinating to see inside the cdc, especially when the threat level got elevated. the ethical questions raised and the use of this serum given to two americans afflicted with it, who are now back in the united states, they got that experimental drug. sanjay broke the news of the drug just a short time ago. president obama was asked whether he's considering sending that drug to africa and the ethics of providing it only to americans.
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here is what the president said. >> i think we've got to let the science guide us and, you know, i don't think all the information is in on whether this drug is helpful. what we do know is that the ebola virus, both currently and in the past is controllable, if you have a strong public health infrastructure in place and the countries infected, are the first to admit that what happened here is that there were public health systems had been overwhelmed. >> a professor, author of director of the division of ethics. he joins me now. i think a lot of people when they hear there is a promising experimental treatment for ebola wonder why more people aren't receiving it. is it a question of a, it's experimental and it can't be scaled up that quickly?
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>> primarily that's the problem. the world supply of the drug would fit in a teacup, a little company has it and not the only one. there are a couple other little companies that have drugs they are starting up with animals, too, but anderson, you don't have a lot of drug and even if this worked and we saw the two people that got it stay healthy and do okay for a couple months, you'd still take time to have to produce it in bulk and get it over there. we're not going to get a quick fix out of the drug, if you will, to the e babola outbreak. hundreds died before these missionaries were given this experimental drug. do you think it was the right thing to give it to the americans? some said look, why wasn't it used sooner to save other people's lives? >> it's ironic, we don't actually have a national or international policy what to do with experimental drugs that are scarce in a crisis and the road
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to this drug went through their own organization that it sent the medical missionaries over there. they called around and tried to find out is there anything that could be given. they were sent to the little company. they asked one way or another, they worked out an arrangement to get the drug shipped to liberia where it was used. you know, it was -- they were the first people who asked. i don't think it was discriminatory, i don't think it was a bias. i think no one else had done. >> three ebola experts issued a statement today calling for expanded access to the drugs allowing governments to make decisions who gets drugs like that. do you agree with that? >> look, we've had two people who got it but you want to wait a couple weeks to see that they don't get terrible side effects, livers aren't destroyed, they don't die all of a sudden from
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some unexpected consequence and do a little more safety study. these people got the doses a monkeys got. we don't know how to give it. the main point is, i wouldn't be pushing resources to go to the drug to get it out there because i think that will take months. i think what we got to do is double down on presense. some things sanjay showed us to get people over there to teach people don't touch bodies, don't let people travel. in the short run, you get a better result by continuing prevention efforts and getting the epidemic under control and trying to put resources out towards the drugs. >> difficult choices always to make in a situation. >> hard choices. >> appreciate it. thanks very much. coming up, anthony bourdain, did his interview play a role in them being taken by iranian authorities. later, what airport security you might ask? you'll ask that, we'll tell you about the 63-year-old woman who
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welcome back, for about two weeks, washington post reporter and his wife are being held in iran. they received reports the couple were detained. a few days later an official confirmed the journalist was arrested and held for questioning. the charges are not all that clear at all and the case is confounded many, including anthony bourdain who met the couple this summer when he was filming an episode of "parts unknown iran." i spoke to him. explain what happened. you were filming an episode in iran. you interviewed them and said they were great and there is no proof they did anything wrong. >> yeah, i mean, for the life of me, this -- i'm not naive about iran, but i was really surprised by our reception there, which was very positive, and extraordinary friendly and i met these two wonderful people and
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they were so positive about their country. i think there was just not a hint of anything that could cause anyone in any government to find fault, one would think. so it's just beyond me what they could possibly have done to bring this on themselves. as far as i'm concerned, they were fantastic ambassadors for a little under stood country. >> that's the thing. they talked about difficulties living there, but overall, were quite positive of what they said about iran. >> these are two people who are very proud of their iranian heritage, very proud of their country who, if anything, did their best to make an american
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with predictable views of that country understand the context, the history, the bigger picture. i mean, these were two lovely -- i'm not a middle east expert. i'm not an iran expert. i can only say i met two from my heart i met two wonderful people with very positive attitudes about iran. >> "the new york times" is reporting they were arrested as part of a ploy to embarrass and weaken the prague mat tick iranian president. do you think their speaking with you could have anything to do with or made them for visible targets? >> i -- believe me, i've thought about it. understand, we were treated very, very well -- first, just walking down the street in tehran was a surprising situation. even was lovely, without cameras, with cameras. when people found out we were
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american, everyone was lovely to us. the people, representatives from the government at the ministry who had to approve our presence there. they were very nice and very helpful. there just wasn't -- there wasn't a shadow of that kind of thing that we really felt. i mean, we were aware, but we just didn't feel it at that time. i thought about this many times since they were taken. i really hope we had nothing to do with it. i can't imagine we did, but i couldn't imagine this would happen, either. >> we'll continue to follow their case. appreciate you taking to time to talk to us, thanks. >> thank you. the episode with anthony bourdain iran will start this fall. you can see an episode featuring bourda bourdain's trip to myanmar in a few minutes. coming up, the search
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remains at the crash site for flight coming to a halt. we'll tell you more ahead.
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welcome back, flight 17
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searching has come to a standstill. the operation will continue, although, they frankly don't know when and it's too dangerous right now. nick paton watching walsh repo. the fighting was so close to you, you had to turn off your lights and whisper. what's the situation like there now? >> reporter: it's much quieter tonight, but earlier on today, we have heard as dusk fell, heavy artillery north to the city and behind me a couple hours after that, artillery aircraft fire into the air. so still a tense night here in donetsk. we went out into the city today to see what the night before's violence had been about, large creators caused in the streets close to city center, what looked to be air strikes, two people killed by shelling, nobody quite knows who was behind it and the gunfire we were hearing seemed to be a fight over a key building here in the city center, no one quite
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knows which sides were fighting over that, either, anderson. the ukrainian army moving in fast and many wondering particularly a separatists leader i spoke to, if russia will intervene. there are 20,000 troops across the boarder. he offered a defense as to why perhaps the economic costs for sanctions from the west might mean moscow wouldn't intervene. they need help fast. >> the search for victims, that's actually now stopped because of the fighting, right? >> absolutely. the touch prime minister today echoing what i heard from an official close to the investigation. the violence around that crash side means its no longer possible to continue tomorrow, perhaps not for the days ahead, weeks ahead, one person at the crash site today said the gunfire that came near the investigation team was extraordinary close. they don't know who was shooting but i think is really the final straw. they have seen security threats in and out and i think now the
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dutch are saying enough is enough. >> thank you. up next, the case of a 62-year-old stow away. how she made it onto the plane and into the air. that's keeping you from the healthcare you deserve.. at humana, we believe the gap will close when healthcare gets simpler. when frustration and paperwork decrease. when grandparents get to live at home instead of in a home. so let's do it. let's simplify healthcare. let's close the gap between people and care.
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as you may know i just got back from israel. the security at tel aviv, they
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don't miss much. we learned today that a 6 3-year-old woman breezed through security without a ticket and took off. randi kaye reports. >> reporter: she finally did it, after repeatedly failing to stow away on an airplane from san francisco airport, 62-year-old marlin heartman pulled it off. it happened monday, this time at san jose international airport where she managed to bypass two levels of security. here is how. heartman reportedly blended in with a family showing their boarding passes to airport security. at the southwest airlines gate, she apparently managed to merge with a family again, slipping right past the gate agent without a boarding pass or even a reservation. >> that is concerning because i mean, that means anyone can just get on a plane and do whatever, you know, whatever they want to do. >> reporter: only after the flight landed in los angeles did the flight crew reportedly
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realize something was off. they took a head count and heartman's secret was out. los angeles police say further investigation revealed hardman did not have a confirmed reservation nor any documents showing she purchased a ticket. lucky for her, the flight apparently wasn't full otherwise she likely would have been bumped before take off. she was arrested at la's airport for trespassing. san jose international airport says public safety was never compromised. >> that passenger was screened by tsa for any prohibited items. it's really important to point that out. public safety was not korcompro >> reporter: the tsa said the passenger was screened and saying the agency initiated layouts to the document checking area to prevent another incident like this one. this all comes just about four months after another stow away
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from the very same airport. remember this? that as you were va le that surveillance video of an immigrant who hit in a wheel whale of a flight. he survived 5.5 hours beneath the 767 jet. at this point, it doesn't appear ma marlin heartman was looking to do harm. she said she has cancer and was simply trying to go somewhere warm. true or not, for now, this serial stow away isn't flying anywhere anytime soon. >> randi kaye joins us now. how many times has she tried this before? >> we called the da and he says she's been charged at least four times with trying to stow away. one time she did get on a plane before this time but she had a seat that belonged to somebody else. she grabbed the seat. she got the seat, somebody else came on to take the seat and she
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was able to -- she had to get off the plane but she's facing six months in jail, $1,000 in fines, so she's in trouble. >> thanks very much. that does it for us. "anthony bourdain parts unknown" "anthony bourdain parts unknown" starts right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com ♪ ♪ chances are you haven't been to this place. chances are this is a place you've never seen. other than maybe blurry cell phone videos, old black-and-white newsreels from world war ii. chances are bad things were haing