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before the clock expired. the barrage didn't stop there. israel is responding with force in gaza. the peace negotiations seem to be over. the israeli delegation left the talks, so, what next. >> a special edition of "new day" starts right now. good morning. welcome to new day. it is friday, august 8. 6:00 in the east. we want to welcome viewers from across the country and around the world. this morning, the world is on edge. a cease-fire evaporated in the middle east and renewed military action in iraq. president obama has given the green light for targeted air strikes inside iraq. why? to stop the advance of isis militants. islamist terrorists who have been ransacking the country. the president fears they may be getting too close to american personnel still in the country working with the iraqi military. >> the other issue, the
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militants are rooting out christians and religious. they have been driven out of western iraq, near syria leading to what the white house is calling humanitarian crisis. tens of thousands facing a grave choice, flee their homes or face execution. many who did flee have been stranded on a mountain for days fearing for their lives. the u.s. military has been offering help overnight, dropping in food, water and very basic supplies. pentagon correspondent barbara starr has more on the next step in this fight against isis. good morning, barbara. >> good morning, kate. a significant order from president obama. air strikes are authorized. that means they could happen at anytime without the military even going back to the white house for approval. >> we do whatever is necessary to protect our people. >> this morning, u.s. forces at
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the ready. president obama authorizing targeted air strikes to protect american personnel near the capital of the kurdish region, threatened by isis militants. >> we intend to stay individual lent. they have moved across iraq and neared the city of irbil where american diplomats and civilians serve the kons late and american military personnel advise iraqi forces. >> reporter: aid drop was made atop a mountain near sinjar. they fled to escape a massacre by isis. actions, which obama says could constitute genocide. >> they have been barbaric toward religious minorities. descend the mountain and be slaughtered or stay and die of thirst and hunger. >> reporter: three cargo planes
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escorted by two fighter jets with critical aid, including thousands of gallons of water and food. a race to stop catastrophe, after 40 children died from thirst. the president authorizing more targeted air strikes to help iraqi forces as they attempt to break the mountain siege. >> today, america is coming to help. >> reporter: isis targeting christians and attacking in areas around iraq's christian area, overrun by militants, forcing thousands of them to flee. this ultimatum to iraqis, convert to islam or die. a rain of terror continues as isis gains control and takes over key parts of the country, including iraq's largest dam, according to the militants. a key source of electricity and water. administration -- the u.s.
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administration still had mant there will be no u.s. military boots on the ground. right now, the situation on that mountain top desperate. the united nations estimates there are 200 iraqis with nowhere to go. kate? >> it's a more desperate situation as we speak. barbara starr, thank you so much. barbara joining me to talk about this and what the united states can do and should do to slow the isis surge. rick francona is a retired intelligence officer. he is now a cnn analyst. great to see you. a lot to discuss. let's get to the area and show the viewers the area we are talking about here. this is northern iraq. this is where the latest attacks, if you will, the focus of the isis surge has gone. this kind of spider web red area, this is where isis has taken over, over the last couple of months. when you see this area, you
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noted their strategy in the push isis is making, what does it show to you? >> they have come down the euphrates and tigress valley. if you look at what's in the valleys, are dams. all the power generation is located in these areas. if they take the mosul dam, they control all of the power north of baghdad. >> there's strategy behind this. this is not a rag tag group of militants pulled together. there is -- there is operational kind of, there's a mentality here. >> as you watch how they move, they move like an army. they move with armored support, artillery support, they take everything with them and go after designated targets and fight well. they are not a bunch of guys with rifles, they are using tanks and humvees they have taken from the iraqi army.
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>> that's what i wanted to ask you about. some of the terms are new to some of us, not to you. this peshmerga security force is well regarded. why have they not been able to hold off isis? >> man for man, they are excellent fighters. they fought saddam's army now the influx of the isis people. the problem is, they don't have the weaponry they need. they have been kind of ignored by the al maliki government. we have been providing support some of it is supposed to go to the military arm of the kurds. >> also, what we have been talking about earlier in covering this crisis is isis is taking over all the supplies, the artillery, everything the united states provided that was supposed to go to the iraqi security forces. >> a lot of this is state of the art stuff. now the kurds find themselves
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out gunned, out manned andout matched. they will not be able to stand and continue to roll toward irbil. that's where you have a small u.s. military contingent and the embassy people moved from baghdad. they thought it would be a safe place to go. >> you have the immediate and the broader crisis. the immediate crisis, tens of thousands of folks on top of a mountain and the humanitarian aid the united states has flown in overnight. they are dropping it in by c-130s, right? >> a c-17 and two c-130s. that puts 1,000 meals on the ground. >> this is obviously what it would like like for the drop. this is the area. say they are stranded, they are stuck with nowhere to go and they are dying up there because they don't have water to survive. in doing this drop, these planes
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have to fly very low. this is risky. >> yeah. you have to put -- you don't just push things out of a plane. you have to plan where you are going to put it. you want the people you are trying to help to get to it without risking their lives to get to it. this is not a one time thing. they will need supply every day. that's enough for one day. now they have to do it every day. this is an ongoing effort. do we do it forever or work on a way to get them off the mountain and out of there? >> it leads to a broader question, not only how do you do that, but when you talk about let's show where the air strikes that have been authorized, what we are talking about. the president said if u.s. national security is at risk tharks's when the united states moves in. irbil is where you have kons late workers and military advisers that could be under threat. why authorize air strikes, why now do you think? >> a threat is emerging.
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this is something you can see. 30 miles from irbil. a short drive. isis has shown the about to move quickly. air strikes are a way. >> do you think it's a smart move? >> it's the only move. we have to do something. if you read what the president said, he said protect americans in the country. if there's a threat to baghdad airport, you could see air strikes in that area. we have to keep the airport open. we could see air strikes all over the country. >> colonel thank you very much. we are going to get a live update from the pentagon press secretary about the operations that happened overnight. let's get to jake on the ground in jerusalem for us following the breaking news in the middle east. jake? >> good morning, kate. the three-day cease-fire between israel and hamas is history. the israeli military says
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rockets were fired into israel before the cease-fire ended and the rockets have continued well after. now israel is responding, quote, forcefully, unquote, with a relaunch of air strikes in gaza. that's where we find john vause with the latest. john? >> reporter: well, jake, right now, i can hear the sermon from a mosque not far from here. it is friday prayers. some people are out and about attending friday prayers. there are a few people on the streets. israel renewed the defensive two hours ago now and it seems the first target was probably west of here, the western part of gaza city. since then, the palestinians and other targets have been hit. according to the palestinians, there appears to have been a strike near a mosque that left a small child dead. there's also artillery tank and artillery fire in the northern part of gaza. we haven't heard a lot from hamas in the last couple hours,
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but another militant group here, islamic jihad claiming responsibility for firing rockets into israel. they started firing once the cease-fire had expired. they say they are doing that because israel violated the cease-fire not agreeing to the palestinian demands and the peace talks in cairo, jake? >> thanks, john. the israelis made it clear they were not willing to continue with the cease-fire. let's go now to cnn's reza sayah. reza? >> reporter: jake, israel's position is they were willing to extend the cease-fire beyond the 72 hours in hamas. hamas has a different take. they say they didn't fire the rockets before the 72 hours was over. they believe that israel came here on a bluff, that they were not willing to address the core
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issues, the core demands. they were only using delay tactics to get back to the status quo, which is something that was unacceptable to hamas. the minimal demand they put forth to the israelis was goating a sea port to get access to the outside world. israel did not give that to them, apparently. that is why we are at the impasse and the fighting started up again. what's worrying is there's no indication they are indirectly negotiating at this hour. israeli's left at 7:00 a.m. palestinians stopped talking to the egyptians at 4:00 a.m. if you are going to solve this conflict, you have to communicate. that's not happening, unfortunately, at this hour. >> reporter: reza sayah in cairo. they announce the two israelis have been injured by rockets coming in from gaza. back to you in new york.
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>> thanks, jake. coming up on "new day" the situation in iraq is not about politics, it is genocide. thousands of iraqis are being hunted by isis terrorists who are trying to create an extremist religious state. it is literally hell on the ground there. the question is, how do we stop it? is this just about the u.s.? what can the u.s. do? we are going to talk to the pentagon press secretary. >> also ahead, the world health organization declaring the ebola health outbreak a health emergency. dr. sanjay gupta is going to join us live. what does this mean? ♪
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stop the advance on irbil. i directed the military to take targeted strikes should they move toward the city. we intend to stay individual lent and take action if these terrorist forces threaten our personnel anywhere in iraq including irbil or baghdad. >> isil, isis, whatever you want
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to call them, they are terrorists chasie ining christi. that is president obama saying what seemed inevitable. to stop the genocide and protect american interest in iraq, he has authorized two things, humanitarian efforts and air drops of food and supplies because they are starving to death and targeted air strikes to help the iraqi and kurdish forces fight back. how will we pull the mission off? how bad is it as they are fleeing for their lives? we are john kirby with us, the pentagon press secretary traveling with the defense secretary in india. can you hear us? >> caller: i got you loud and clear, chris. thanks for having me. >> thank you for taking the opportunity. you are dealing with a lot right now. while in india, any chance that government steps up and helps in
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an obvious call for anyone who values freedom? >> caller: we are having good discussions with them here. i would let them speak for themselves on this. for our part, as you rightly reported, we are committed to two things, one is relieving the humanitarian issue on mount sinjar and being prepared and ready for air strikes to protect the american personnel. >> you know better than i, admiral, it's not enough. the situation is getting worse. no one can stop these terrorists. what is the u.s. ready to do? what is going to come next? >> caller: we are prepared to do what the president authorized us to do. we have provided these air drops of supplies to those iraqi citizens on mount sinjar.
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planners and commanders are doing the necessary work to conduct air strikes against isil targets if and when required. we have the authorization to do that and we are prepared to do that. >> is that snuff? you think you can get it done with an area spread out so wide and has no base of power? >> caller: remember, chris, the mission really is to protect american personnel in irbil and in and around baghdad. also, this is an important point, to try to help iraqi security forces. they go after the threat. this is a threat inside their country, to their people torks their sovereignty. this is an iraqi fight to fight. >> you know they seem to be losing it by larger and larger margins. isis or whatever you want to call them, these terrorists are getting more and more american assets we gave to the iraqi army. at what point do you think that
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country falls? >> caller: isils progress has been swift, there's no question. they are well led and well resourced but it's mixed. they are strengthened in the north. that's what led to the humanitarian problem on mount sinjar. more to the south and baghdad, we see them stiffen their resist tense. the fight is not uniform throughout the country of iraq. yes, they have moved swiftly and made progress in the north, but not throughout the rest of the country. >> is the fact that these people are being hunted down and killed our problem? is the u.s. going to protect them? >> caller: it is a -- it is a problem for the international community and the international community has also responded with some humanitarian systems. the government of iraq provided humanitarian assistance and we
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are chipping in as well. again, the president was clear about this. this is something the world needs to take note of. i mean, these isil terrorists are simply boots. they are thugs. they are murderers with no regard to human life. it's not just the christians they are threatening. they are threatening people of a different muslim, the sunnis where isil were once welcome and are now turning as well. they are nothing but a bunch of thugs and terrorists. again, i think everybody is mindful of the threat they pose inside iraq. >> right. i think we have to make the audience mindful of the greater threat as well. many people in your country will be shaking their heads saying oh, no, we don't want to go back in there. we have made it clear.
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isis is -- that triggers their intention, to create a religious state. they are training their fighters, not just to fight, fwou launch attacks against the united states. what do you believe the threat is, if nothing is done? >> caller: we believe they pose a threat not just to iraq, but the region. they have certainly aspirational desires to threaten western targets to include the united states and american citizens. there's no question about that. they pose a very serious threat. again, our focus is helping the iraqis deal with this threat inside their country in the broader region. >> first it seemed sunni shia. they are calling the christians people who are denier or non-believers. they are throwing them in a big category. that's going to include the u.s. and everybody, basically who is
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a non-extremist of their variety. the longer we wait, respearen't allowing the threat to grow? >> caller: we are not waiting. we put an aircraft carrier in the persian gulf. we have put assessment teams on the ground. we have advisers working in two joint operation centers, one in baghdad and one in irbil. the united states military, the united states is not just standing by. we are working very hard on this. there is a sense of purpose and urgency here. again, this is ultimately an issue that the iraqi government has got to come to grips with and solve and iraqi security forces have to continue to step up against this threat. part and parcel of this is a unity government in iraq, a politically inclusive process to look after their own people and provide the kind of structure and stability that iraq needs to
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prevent the growth of these kind of extremist groups inside. >> that's an entirely different discussion. there's a lot of criticism of him on the ground. i believe you are hearing from the ground you need to give better weaponry to the kurdish fighters, they are not supposedly outmanned, but outgunned. is there anything in that area of planning? >> caller: we are always looking at security assistance for iraq. one thing i forgot to mention is we have systems in iraq to the tune of thousands of them on the way, which have been used with goodefect and the iraqi government needs those. we are working with them on that. that includes conversations and discussions with the kurds and the peshmerga. >> thank you so much.
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we know you have a lot on your plate. keep us in the loop. we are here to get the message out. >> caller: thanks, chris. glad to be with you. coming up on new day, more breaking news out of the middle east. the opportunity for peace was wasted. the cease-fire has ended. rocket fires are out there, again. it's what you have been seeing and it's going to be repeated. the question is still, can israel and hamas find common ground? very difficult to negotiate with terrorists. we are live in jerusalem. waving the white flag to clearing. ebola is spreading faster than they can control it. the catch word is a pandemic. how bad is it? we have it all for you. female announcer: sunday's your last chance to save big
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wol come back to new day, i am jake tapper live in jerusalem. despite the times the words were made this morning as a good morning greeting, peace here remains as elusive as ever. the middle east cease-fire is over as are peace talks between israel and the palestinians. the delegation left cairo soon after rockets started to fly.
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israeli is responding. talks led to the release of an israeli soldier held in captivity. he is now the ceo and founder of the israel palestine center for research and information. thanks so much for being here. i guess the first question, how do we get out of this mess? >> it's complex. let's put assumptions on the table that should be understood by everyone. i would contend you can create deterrence against people willing to die. two, the demands put by hamas on the table are reasonable. what they want is freedom. three, if hamas is willing to talk peace with israel, the demands might be agreeable.
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in exchange for a cease-fire, hamas is using the time to rebuild, rearm and build better bunkers and prepare for the next war. this is not an acceptable solution. we need to address the core issue that is are the demands of hamas for political freedom and put them on the table in the framework of a peace deal. that's the way out of here. >> i said something similar to mark regev the spokesperson for benjamin netanyahu. it became clear the cease-fire was over. he said that the reason that the blockade exists, they don't call it a blockade. the reason the restrictions exist is because of the weapons going into gaza and used against the israeli people. >> the weapons started coming back in 1995 when the first tunnels were built at the time when israel was in full control of the borders there and continue to be smuggling weapons for the decade.
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the isolation policy is the official name of the policy, not blockade or siege. it was a move to isolate gaza after hamas and after the 2007 against the palestinian forces from the palestinian authority. then israel decided to isolate gaza from the palestinian territory. it was a political decision more than a security decision. >> a mistake, you think? >> it was a big mistake. what we have to focus on when this is over is to re-examine the lost opportunities, once again. to argue about it is a chicken and egg. it's not going to help anyone. >> there are a lot of viewers out there saying why even negotiate with hamas, israel, the eu, the united states, all consider hamas a terrorist group. they used to stage suicide bombings all the time. are they people one can negotiate with? you have negotiated with them. explain how one negotiates with
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hamas. >> if the end game is to preserve hamas and power, you negotiate with hamas. hamas is id logically determined to destroy israel in the long term. it's not a short term goal. they have done that over the years and gaza continues to live in difficult situations. i would suggest that's not our goal. we want to resolve the conflict meaning we have to negotiate with the leaders of the palestinian authority, the palestinian people and framework where we have interest between israel, jordan, egypt and other states and look at a wider perspective of the region and peace. >> one of the things i have heard from palestinians is when it comes to the demand that the israeli government is making on demilitarization, removing the rockets and hamas' weapons, which is one of the chief demands of israel before the siege of gaza, as the
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palestinians refer to it is lifted, they say, look, abbas in the west bank agreed to all of that. what has that gotten him? it's gotten him nowhere. there's no airport in the west bank and it's still not a bank. >> they have a valid claim. negotiations have gone on 20 years. they haven't produced the results. abbas lost his legit miization saying they are going to negotiate and we have repeated wars by hamas with israel. we need to move out of this pattern of rewarding violence and understand there are moderates in the region to negotiate a peace with and give the palestinians what they deserve after 47 years of occupation. they deserve to have their freedom and deliberation. we as israelis want my neighbors to be happy, peaceful and prosperous as much as possible. >> empower the moderates. thank you. back to you in new york.
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>> jake, thank you so much. we'll get back to you shortly. now to mikaela to look at the headlines. >> good morning. we are watching hawaii. they are bracing for two big storms. iselle weakened to a tropical storm. bringing with it heavy rain and winds. forecasters are warning as much as a foot of rain could fall in some areas, thus flooding is a major concern. meanwhile, hurricane julio is nine miles behind, expected to skirt the islands but will pack quite a punch. it's a category three storm with winds over 120 miles per hour. it could be the first hurricane to hit the island in 22 years. another apparent provocation by the russians. fighter jets and bombers spotted by u.s. air space over alaska. they say it require add precautionary intercept by american jets. russian flights are nothing new but an air command called the latest a spike in activity.
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malaysia's troubled airline will pay half a billion dollars to take the airline private. the first step in a planned major restructuring. the airline is taken off the stock market and investors bought out. malaysian airlines have been in trouble before two disasters this year that killed 500 people. theodore wafer faces life in prison after being convicted in the shooting death. the jury found him guilty of second degree murder and manslaughter in the shooting of the 19-year-old. wafer's claim of self-defense was rejected. he said he believed she was trying to break in. sentencing for wafer is set for later this month. a lot of emotion in that trial. we have watched it here. now they have a conviction. we'll wait for sentencing. >> a lot of people are saying that's what it's sized up as from the beginning, despite the conflicting stories about it was a mistake and the circumstances
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where you do something that was reckless and wind up with someone being dead. that's manslaughter. that's that. we will watch the sentencing. a break here on new day. when we come back, an emergency of global proportions. the world health organization issues the most frightening warning yet about ebola. we are going to tell you how far it may spread and what has to be done to stop it and if that's possible. dr. sanjay gupta has thachlt. tens of thousands of iraqi christians running for their live. they can conform to islam or die. we have a rare interview with the pope's chief spokesman coming up. ♪ (train horn)
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i am declaring the current outbreak of ebola virus disease a public health emergency of international concern. >> breaking news overnight in the ebola outbreak that has claimed now nearly 1,000 lives. you heard it there. the world health organization declaring a public health emergency and calling this biggest outbreak of the deadly
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virus ever recorded. additionally, the u.s. is now ordering family members of embassy employees in liberia to leave that country. our dr. sanjay gupta is at the cnn center in atlanta with the very latest. good morning, sir. let's talk about this. what does this designation mean? what does it effectively bring us? >> well, so they basically called it an extraordinary event of unusual nature and signaling to the international health community that they have got to come together. there's some very specific things that come out of this as well. the states that currently have transmission of ebola. they are saying they should declare -- those states should declare a state of emergency and basically all the things that come with that, including things like trying to restrict mass gatherings, things like that and also specific things around travel as well. >> right. >> so for someone who has been exposed or come in contact, no travel. they are basically going to try to do the screenings at airports that are going to be much more specific. if you have a fever, that that's
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not explainable. you're probably going to get further screening and even possibly tested depending on what the questioner shows. that's a pretty big deal. if -- that there is some sort of documented infection. people will be isolated for 30 days so if you're traveling you'll get isolated. let's say you're on the road somewhere and have been exposed and you come back positive. you'll be isolated for 30 days and people who have come in contact for 20 days. that's significant, michaela. emergency the amount of international travel coming out of these countries that could have a significant impact all over the world. >> let's talk about the criteria. i'm very curious about this. what is the criteria that the outbreak has to reach for w.h.o. to make this determination is. >> polio, for example, earlier this year met the criteria, not because of widespread dissemination but more because this was unusual, you know. there were several countries where they basically thought they eradicated polio and they
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were starting to see resurgences and the idea is this is unusual and the international community can get together and do something about this and that's what happened here with ebola as well. we are on target right now if things continue the way they are. this outbreak will have more cases infected and more people who have died than all the previous ebola outbreaks put together. >> and i want to get to that, sanjay. it's not just the number, because we always want to put a human face on it. it's not just the death toll or amount of people infected. it's the speed by which it's spreading, correct? >> no question. it is the speed. it's sort of -- typically you think of this occurring in some remote village, remote area in one specific locations and resources can be sort of targeted at that one location. here you had almost three simultaneous outbreaks occurring in guinea, in sierra leone, in liberia. that became really challenging.
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welcome back to "new day." terrorists known as isis are tearing through iraq trying to create an extremist religious state and as part of that they are hunting christians, calling them deniers of the religion and telling them convert to islam or die. thousands of running for their lives and many are dying. this is called genocide and it's even receiving comment from the pope. joining us now from the vatican is senior adviser to the pope. thanks for joining us. >> thank you. >> what does the pontiff make for humanitarian aid, any response from the vatican? >> certainly not officially in terms of the u.s., chris, but what the pope has been asking for, just as of yesterday, is any help by the international
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community and so obviously that is a great first start. the holy sea would like to see more of that pope francis will certainly, you'll hear more from him in the next few days about that. calling on both the individuals but especially on those who have not just the soft power but really the power to get aid to people who are starving, dying of hunger and of thirst in this moment. >> the reality is, and i'm sure that the holy sea is very aware of this, humanitarian aid is not enough. we are reminded of pope pius xii and pope francis seems much more outspoken. does the pope recognize that this might be a case of justifiable war to save these people? >> well, i don't think at this point we're going to get into what suggests war, the just war theory or not, but once again what the pope is asking for, the international community, doing
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what has to be done in order to save these people. you cannot -- there is such a thing in catholic theology as sins of omission. i think the pope is asking everyone to make an examination of conscience. not thinking you're a good guy just because you're not a bad guy. can you be a good guy, among the good guys who aren't doing enough to stop the evil that's being done and certainly that is what the church is asking for, the holy sea and the pope are asking for the international community, first of all, to pay attention to this issue, the fact that you're here talking about it is obviously a good sign that it has sort of -- the needle has moved a little bit. we've gotten it on to the radar screen but obviously a lot more has to be done, and it's got to be done on international level. >> i'm aware of the catechism, but the practicalities here seem pretty obvious, mr. burke. these are terrorists. they are he will ben they are hell bent literally on killing people and they will
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kill people with a lot of enthusiasm who deny their own religion and deny their efforts. it will take force to stop them. is that what the vatican is going to ask for? >> i don't believe you'll hear that from the pope. if you saw what he said yesterday, i know he said violence is not resolved by more violence. now, having said that in the past, the church has realized that in order to get humanitarian aid in some situations, that is necessary, but obviously you're not going to hear anything from pope francis suggesting that. you're going to hear the opposite. you're going to hear about dialogue. you're going to hear let's talk and get it together. if you get enough of the good people who can make a difference here. that is what we're going to be after. you're not going to hear pope francis saying we've got to start a war, start another war there. >> what is your take on the proposition that the people, the victims are being faced with there, convert to islam or die? under those circumstances, if they were to convert, to save
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their lives, is that an acceptable change in belief, even to the vatican? >> in terms of catholic teaching, the catholic, the christian faith has really been built on the blood of the martyrs. something the pope has said recently, even before this all gan was that, you know, there's actually more persecution right now of christians than there was in the early centuries. i think some people heard that and thought that was strange and now with this most recent thing, maybe it doesn't sound so strange at all. the fact of the matter is christianity has been built on the blood of the martyrs. that doesn't mean that everyone is cut out to be a martyr. obviously there was an interesting mix. the french cardinals recently visited there in iraq and basically making a plea, and they brought some attention to the thing, but they are saying basically let's make it possible for them to stay. obviously not everybody has that kind of wherewithal, and there's nothing in the faith that says you cannot run for your life in
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the midst of that. obviously it's an incredibly powerful example when somebody does stand up for their faith to -- to the point of death. that's an incredible example for those who follow them. >> but hopefully it's not necessary. while the vatican will not call for violence, if the international community steps forward, if the u.s. does what needs to be done to stop genocide that's going on against christians and others right now, will the vatican at least be slow to condemn those actions seeing how that is what it may take to help these people? >> well, certainly the holy sea wants to see multi-lateral action here, as much of the international community involved as possible and in the past has certainly been willing to go along with that, never encouraging a war but obviously if there is such defensive measures necessary to save people's lives, i think -- i think you will see that, you know. the -- the key thing, however,
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though, and you'll hear more of this in the coming days is a call for everybody in the international community, at least to -- to stand up and pay attention and let's see what we can do. >> and a few groups are as well equipped to provide humanitarian aid to catholic charities. i know they are looking for an opportunity to get in there in northern iraq. again, that may take force to create the military opportunity. it will be interesting to see how church an military work hand in hand to get these people help. mr. burke, it's rare for to you speak to the american media. thank you for taking this opportunity and send the regards to the pontiff. >> thank you. >> all right. we're going to be following this story from the vatican perspective and more importantly the humanitarian crisis on the ground in iraq. just one story we have for you, a lot of news so let's get right to it. breaking news, back to iraq. president obama okays air strikes inside the country. >> today i authorized two operations in iraq. >> terror group isisaks more
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towns and tens of thousands of christians fleeing for their lives. the u.s. military in a daring humanitarian aid drop overnight and u.s. personnel may be in danger. we're live in iraq with the very latest. >> also breaking, cease-fire over. >> it's clear that hamas has broken the fundamental premise for these folks. >> rockets once again fired at israel, and israel strikes back. now the negotiations in cairo seem to be over as well. israel has left the talks. will the fighting now get worse? >> your "new day" continues right now. good morning. welcome back to "new day." we want to welcome our viewers across the country and around the world, and there is breaking news that demands all of our attention today. first, genocide in iraq has forced the u.s. to prepare for battle. president obama has authorized targeted strikes to stop the advance of isis terrorists. the reason is simple, to protect
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those american advisers on the ground and to stop a growing humanitarian crisis. take a look. vikes would be intended to stop the terrorists from advancing in the major cities where americans are, and then there is the goal of protecting christians and other religious minorities. >> the other issue here is the hundreds of thousands forced to run for their lives in the northwest near the border with syria. the reason, militants have been rooting out christians and religious minorities, most from what's known as the yizidi tradition. >> women, men and children from the area of sinjar interest fled for their lives and thousands, perhaps tens of thousands are hiding up on the mountain with little by the clothes on their backs. they are without food, without water. people are starving and children
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are dying from thirst. >> food, water and supplies with arriving thanks to the u.s. military but that's not enough. let's get to the pentagon correspondent barbara starr. what's latest on what the u.s. is going to do now? >> the u.s. left iraq two and a half years ago and may be headed back at least into the skies over iraq. president obama's authorization of air strikes means air strikes could happen at any point without the u.s. military having tag back to the white house for approval. two potential types of air strikes in the mountains to help push isis back from advancing on those iraqi minorities who are now trapped in those mountains. also possibly air strikes around erbil if the isis militants move too close, too closely to the u.s. personnel in erbil. about 40 american military advisers and other american
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diplomats at the counsell there. the president will move to stop the genocide in the mountains and move to protect american personnel in iraq. no boots on the ground and expect also possibly to see additional airdrops in those mountains. they dropped a good deal of material, food and water last night. much more to come. much more is needed. >> kate. >> barbara, thank you very much. back to you shortly. >> to be clear the isis campaign against religious minorities has been ruthless. take a look. this is about faith and also culture, some stretching back thousands of years and now being swept away by terrorists bent on a bloody form of extremism. they are calling themselves a caliphate, a religious state and they are spreading like a playing. cnn's ivan was the o is on the ground with more.
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>> they plea any way they can, packed in cars and trucks and some moving on foot, carrying their baby's cradle over their shoulders. thousands of iraqi families seeking sanctuary in iraq's kurdish north, fleeing islamist militants. we're afraid of the islamic state, says this woman. they say they are muslims, but they don't act like muslims. they attack everyone, muslims, christians, shiites, even our prophets' graves aren't safe. her family has been hurt by the isis militants. my brother was a simple man who had a grocery store selling vegetables, she says. two months ago they came to his shop and killed him with three bullets. the exodus to erbil sparked by an offensive by the militants who captured towns from the kurds located only 35 miles away from irbil. the united nations says some 200 thousand civilians are on the run so where will all these
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people go? this is where the first wave of fleeing civilians is coming to, unfinished buildings, part of the construction boom that iraq's kurdistan region has been enjoying, and now serving as a temporary shelter for hundreds, thousands of families that really don't have a plan of where to go. look at this little child here. the 6-month-old is far too young to know what's happening here. her mother says her family fled after fighting in what appeared to have been iraqi air strikes, damaged houses near her home on wednesday night. these families showed up with little more than the clothes on their backs. you guys, no water, no food. >> no water, no food. nothing. nothing. anything. >> reporter: around sunset, some kurd arrived distributing some food and water for these desperate people. this help appreciated but also ad hoc. this new wave of homeless people
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will clearly need much, much more in the days ahead, and the kurds may be far too busy defending their homeland from the islamist militants who are knocking at their gate. ivan watson, cnn, irbil in iraqi kurdistan. >> ivan watson and his crew in a very dangerous area to bring you a story that we need to be paying attention to. now, let's get to jake tapper in jerusalem with the other big story, another situation that's developing in a negative way there in the middle east. jake, good morning. >> good morning. >> after three days of relative calm the violence is once again picking up here in the middle east. israel says rockets were fired from gaza even before that 72-hour cease-fire ended, and then after the cease-fire ended at 8:00 a.m. this morning here, israel's air strikes have resumed. one person already reported killed in gaza and the israeli delegation has left the peace talks in cairo. we're joined now by mark regev,
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the spokesman for israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. mark,ñi thanks for being here? my pleasure. >> first of all, what can you tell us about these two rocket attacks that israel says took place before the cease-fire expired? who launched them? did hamas claim responsibility? >> first of all, it happened at 4:30 this morning which is three and a half hours before the cease-fire was due to end, the official cease-fire, one we were willing to extend and hamas said no to an extent. >> possible that it was lone wolves. >> that's always possible, but let's be clear. hamas controls the gaza strip with an iron fist, and these things don't happen out of the blue. hamas' observe leadership was saying they were gantt to extend the cease-fire which sends a green light to all sorts of other people, and i think we've seen the cease-fire fall apart because hamas took a decision they didn't want the cease-fire and it shows that hamas is ruthless. hamas didn't want to see that cease-fire work. hamas is more interested in its
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violent jihad than it is about the people it claims to represe represent. >> so the military campaign that israel is rage in response to rockets launcheded from gaza into israel, we already know that one person has been killed, according to the palestinian health ministry, a 10-year-old boy. what is israel doing, if anything, to alleviate, to reduce civilian casualties as much as possible? we're doing everything we can. we don't see the people of gaza as our enemy. we make a maximum effort to avoid what the experts call collateral damage. we really make an effort to minimize any possible negative impact on the people. unfortunately, we're dealing with an enemy, hamas, that does the opposite. they relish civilian casualties. they think civilian casualties serve their propaganda goals and that's why they have deliberately embedded their terrorist machines inside neighborhoods. >> the tunnels that hamas built from gaza into israel, 32 of them, the idf says that they are
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destroyed, so what are you trying to do now? >> we're hitting hamas command and control, hamas arsenals of weapons, missile facilities and -- >> how do you know where they are? >> we have intelligence. we follow these things very, very closely. we're being as surgical as is humanly possible in a complex combat situation. our enemy is hamas and the other people shooting those rockets. let's be clear here. the only reason the bloodshed, unfortunately, continues is because hamas would not agree to extend the cease-fire as israel did, so hamas has to be held accountable for the continuation of this conflict. there's no other address. they have taken a decision to say no to a cease-fire. >> all right. i understand that, and i'm certainly not defending hamas, but as you and i spoke a few hours ago the demands that they are making, there are even many israelis who say those demands are not unreasonable, the demands of lifting the economic blockade or what israel calls isolation of gaza f.hamas wants that and it's not unreasonable,
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why not at least take steps in that direction so as to create a path to peace. >> well, those issues were on the table in cairo and we're willing to discuss those issues. the people of gaza are not our enemy and if we can try to normalize the relationship, that's a good thing for israel, a good thing for gaza. the premise for moving forward is an end to hostile attacks into gaza into israel. that was the foundation of the egyptian process we're accepted and we're not going to negotiate under fire. we're not going to talk about easing pressure on gaza. >> let's talk about that. you're not willing to negotiate under fire. israeli delegates to the cairo peace talks have left. aren't most peace talks conducted while hostilities are going on? >> we're talking about a cease-fire. we're not talking about peace talks, and let's be clear, jake. israel accepted the egyptian initiative, accepted it three weeks ago.
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they are, unfortunately, callous, and that they are -- their whole view is not maybe dissimilar from isis in iraq. this violent jihad above everything else, of course, above the people of gaza, they sacrifice willingly with relish the lives of the people of gaza on the altar of their violent ideology. >> i want to get your response to something that palestinians are saying, not hamas, but the palestinian authority in the west bank. they are saying that israel has committed war crimes during these military operations and should be brought before the international community. >> accidents can happen and civilians can get caught up in the crossfire but that's very different from a war crime. if the united states now takes
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the decision to launch attacks against isis with your own a air -- >> an important point to bring up, jake, regev making very clear. the ebola outbreak has been declared a public health emergency. the w.h.o. says this is the largest ever outbreak of this virus. the death toll is now approaching 1,000. most of those deaths in like are a, sierra leone and guinea. the state department has now ordered families of embassy staffers in liberia to leave as that epidemic spreads. two big storms heading for hawaii. iselle has weakened to a
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tropical storm, but still is bringing heavy rain and wind, you can hear t.flooding is now a big concern with up to a foot of rain expected in some areas. meanwhile, hurricane julio just 900 miles behind it. it's expected to skirt the alanalan island. it's a category 1 storm with winds of over 120 miles per hour. this could be the first hurricane to hit the islands in over 22 years. tea party has once again tried to fail to oust a republican incumbent. tennessee senator lamar alexander scored a convincing victory over state representative joe carr in the gop senate primary. carr backing of sarah palin and tea party group. alexander is considered a heavy favorite to win re-election to the senate in the fall. the tide of unaccompanied children illegally crossing for the border from mexico is slowing. the white house says only half as many children were caught along the southern border in july compared to may and june. about 60,000 unaccompanied
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children have crossed illegally since october prompting the president to declare a humanitarian crisis, and however, this is a familiar refrain, congress has been slow to act. >> and they don't really know what to do in this situation either. >> very complex, admitted about it. no easy or quick solution. >> the concern has been not letting the kids be caught up as pawns and that seems what's happening. we'll get back to those stories and others early on. the u.s. is pledging to help stop genocide with humanitarian aid and force assies mist terrorists slaughter thousands in their path. the u.s. people war-weary, but can we ignore this need? where's the rest of the world. newt gingrich, host of "crossfire" joins us to talk about the path forward. t st. th♪ ♪ so nice, so ni-i-i-ce ♪ st. croix, full of pure vibes ♪ ♪ so nice, so ni-i-i-ce ♪ st. john, a real paradise ♪ so nice, so ni-i-i-ce
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when the lives of american citizens are at risk we will take action. that's my responsibility as commander in chief. and when many thousands of innocent civilians are faced with the danger of being wiped out, and we have the capacity to do something about it, we will take action. >> that was president obama late last night announcing he has authorized limited air strikes to stop the advance of isis militants in iraq, but the president also stressed yet again that american combat troops will not be returning to the fight in that country. the united states has already dropped some food and water to tens of thousands of iraqis trapped at the top of a mountain
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who had to flee the militants, so can the united states stop isis before the militants completely overrun iraq and most importantly from this perspective what should the u.s. role be? joining us to discuss cnn's "crossfire host," newt gingrich. newt, i'm interested on getting your take on not only the president's statement but also the action that the president decided to take last night. >> well, let's start with his statement which is frankly a little confusing. >> why? >> well, if he doesn't want to risk american lives, pull them out of irbil. there's no obligation to sit in irbil so he's trying to find a hometown gosh i have to do this, all of us patriots have to rally together. we're not going to risk american lives. the tragedy of where we are, and this is not about president obama. this is about president bush. it's about president clinton, it's about where the country has been now about radicalis lampism probably since 191 when the iranians seized the american
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embassy. nobody wants to tell the truth. the truth is this is a radical islamist group. they say openly if you don't convert, we'll kill you. it turns out they actually mean it. there's no complexity. they are exactly like hamas. hamas says openly we're going to kill every jew, a direct quote from two weeks. we will kill every jew. the difference is that isis is gaining power and they are doing exactly what they said they would do. and i think, from boca haram in nigeria all the way across region what you see is a radical islamist force. nobody in the american state department, nobody in the white house, not just obama, but for three or four administrations, we've not had the courage to confront how bad this is, and it's getting worse. by the way, yesterday there were -- there were isis forces in lebanon occupying a town in the middle of a fight with the lebanese army in northern lebanon. they are in syria. they are recruiting people in europe and the united states. they see themselves as a
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worldwide fight, and so the president says we're going to stop them from getting to irbil. well, what does that accomplish? >> what is your prescription? you want to -- do you want to see combat troops on the ground, what are you saying? >> no. i think that we should be arming and training the kurds who are very reliable. we should be arming the traditional tribes with whom we had very good relations back when we were in iraq. we should be providing air power in a massive way. we should be hunting down isis anywhere it exists, whether it's in northern syria, in lebanon or it's in iraq but our goal shouldn't be to stop isis. our goal should be to destroy isis. this is a radical anti-human organization. >> do you not think that you can accomplish that with -- if you ták that you can accomplish, that taking them out? >> i think if you train and equip kurds and traditional sunni tribes and ally yourself with everybody who wants to defeat isis you will in fact
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defeat isis but the goal should be clear, just as in gaza. the goal in gaza should be the defeat of hamas. hamas means what it says. it want to kill every jew. isis means what it says. well, you can't co-exist with a neighbor whose stated public goal is to wipe your family out. >> we're talking about how to accomplish -- >> right. >> what to do to accomplish that goal on the ground but then you also have a problem here at home. you've got lawmakers last night by and large came out supporting president's move, some saying it's not enough, as i'm hearing from you, but you also have an american public, we've talked about this before, they are war weary. they have no appetite to be going back in and throwing everything at it to take on -- to -- they are not staying they are going to start nation-building again but they don't want to go back in. what do you say to the american public? >> i don't blame them. we've had 12 years of war that accomplished almost nothing. you're seeing that in iraq right now, seeing that with hamas right now. until we have a national strategy and we have an open, honest conversation. the president couldn't even
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honestly describe isis last night because it goes against his ideology. >> what do you mean? how was he misdescribing it last night? >> isis is a radical islamist organization dedicated to wiping out everybody who is not prepared to convert to islam. it has a very clear religious background, just as hamas does, just as boca haar ram does. there's a war against christians across the region, and the fact is that we've got to be prepared to be honest about this. we should be amy of every rational moderate muslim. with people like isis, this is going to end up sooner or later being war to the death and what the american people deserve is a coherent strategy that gets us to a decisive victory and the minimum use of american troops and the maximum use of other kinds of american assets. >> one thing, that of course, comes up can the question of is this mission creep or looking at it from the other side is this not enough? in answering those questions and kind of exploring, that you also, when you commit to something like this, you need to be prepared to answer the
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question then what? has the president answered that. >> no. there's a passion for some reason, particularly on the left, with this idea of targeted strikes. i remember doing this at one point in the balkans when i was speaker, and so i don't understand what the term targeted strikes means. if isis is as evil as i'm describing, and i think it is, as pope has described in calling for humanitarian intervention, as everybody seems to describe in looking at what it's doing, then we should be trying to defeat it everywhere, not saying as the president said last night, boy, if you send a truck towards irbil, we might kill it. what about the truck sitting two miles away with its engine idling waiting for us to not pay attention. either this is serious and we should figure out how to win or this is not serious and we should figure out how to get out. he could pull the troops out of irbil and he just eliminated one of his two excuses. no reason we have to be there unless it's part of a strategic purpose. >> how does the political turmoil that's also happening on ground in iraq, how does that
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play into this, because there is a possibility that we're hearing -- that they can get a new prime minister in the coming days. does that change anything in your opinion in how the u.s. approaches this? >> i think maliki has been a disaster, just as cardsy's been a disaster in afghanistan, and i think that's the reality sometimes of going into countries like this, that you end up with a leader who is either very corrupt, very dishonest, trying to do -- make sure his faction wins at the cost of everybody else. we don't have a very good doctrine frankly at the state department for how you cope with people like that. maliki has been a major problem for the last three or four years. hopefully he'll be gone, but that won't solve the problem. you now have an isis, a cancer that is spreading in the region, and a cancer that is recruiting in europe and the united states. >> but do you agree with the president's statement though, and he said this to me when we sat down early on in this latest crisis, when we talked about this, and he said it again last night, there is no american military solution to the larger crisis in iraq. do you agree with him on that? >> no, and the reason i don't
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agree with him is that the idea -- the political solution is a fantasy. that's my point. how can you have a political solution with hamas who wants to kill every jew or a political solution with isis who refuses to accept anyone who does not want to convert to muslim. >> he says the people of iraq need to deal with thult mattingly. >> isis is now in iraq, leeria and lebanon. it's recruiting in europe and the united states. that's my whole point. you've got to see this as a worldwide fight, not a locality by locality neighborhood brawl. >> it's great to see you. thanks for coming on. talk to you soon. >> all right. coming up next on "new day," breaking overnight, a republican incumbent survives a tea party challenge. that's lamar alexander and in montana a very different race. a democrat scandal could turn into a big republican gain. the "inside politics" team look at all the details. ♪
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28 minutes past the hour. here's a look at your headlines. the cease-fire and middle east peace talks all over for now in the middle east. israel says militants launched rockets before the three-day pause ended and they kept on firing. the idf, meanwhile, has retaliated with air strikes, one of them deadly. the israeli delegation has left peace talks in cairo. for the second time since june russian fighter jets and nuclear bombers were spotted near u.s. airspace over alaska. the u.s. official had a precautionary intercept by american jets. a u.s. official called this latest mission a spike in
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activity. it all comes amid heightened tensions between the u.s. and russia over the ongoing crisis in ukraine. the defense is wrapping up closing arguments in the oscar pistorius murder trial today. the judge is expected to set a date to deliver her verdict. the former olympic star faces 25 years to life in prison if he's convicted of deliberately killing his girlfriend reeva steenkamp. pistorius says it was an accident. quite a stunning find in a shuttered funeral home in delaware. cremated remains of the 1978 jon jonestown massacre. the bodies of more than 900 victims who died in the mass suicide at the people's temple in guyana had been brought back to the dover air force base. most bodies were claimed or buried in a mass grave but some have been long forgotten. talk about a dark chapter in our
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history. >> so now what? >> now what, quite a discovery. >> got anything for me on that. what do you think happens? >> i don't know. >> we'll find out. >> forensic dna, they will do what they can to try to connect the remains to anybody but there's not much left. >> all right. a lot going on in politics, so let's get to "inside politics" on "new day" with mr. john king. >> it is a busy friday morning, kate, michaela, chris, good morning and with me this morning to share their reporting, let's start with the president last night, an evening address to the american people saying he's authorizing, not yet ordering, but authorizing potential u.s. military strikes in iraq in conjunction with the humanitarian mission. listen to the president here sound even as he says we may have warfare in iraq, listen to how reluctant he sounds. >> i ran for this office in part to end our war in iraq and welcome our troops home, and that's what we've done. as commander in chief i will not allow the united states to be dragged into fighting another war in iraq, and so even as we
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support iraqis as they take the fight to these terrorists, american combat troops will not be returning to fight in iraq because there is no american military solution to the larger crisis in iraq. >> he almost spent more emphasis and as much time saying what we would not do as to what the united states might do. >> absolutely. well, remember, you know, where and how obama rose to power and that was by galvanizing all of these democrats who wanted to be out of iraq for good and you really could see his absolute reluctance to be there making that announcement last night and he's walking a very delicate line because he still wants to hold in all those americans, especially going into the mid terms who don't want further involvement in iraq, but obviously felt like his hand was forced here. >> and yet, maggie, a lot of people are saying, you know, what can you do with such a limited action, maybe can you get some food and supplies to people who desperately need them and amen for that, but in terms of reducing and eliminating the
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isis threat, if you're only going to use force, if americans are attacked and if the airdrops come under attack you won't do anything to change the situation on the ground, are you? >> critics of the president are saying essentially this is nowhere near enough, need to do something that's much broader and bigger and much harder because you look at the violence playing out. it's not just in iraq, it is in the whole region and that real set concern. as you said, he not only sounded weary and reluctant, i thought he looked weary and reluctant, really uninterested in recommitting as poll after poll after poll shows americans don't want to be involved overseas but you see the images we've been playing them all morning going on in iraq. it's a very, very difficult situation. >> does he run a risk, if you look at the world is on fire right now, and this is not all the president's fault. any president would have limited options looking at all these crises right now but does he run a risk after he drew a red line that he refused to enforce and accused to lead from behind and libya is a mess again and does he run a risk even if this goes quote, unquote well, the humanitarian aid gets in, no
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american planes or drones shot down. does he run the risk of what did you do, where's your influence, your power? >> absolutely. the debate this fall as this rolls out will be did he go in soon enough? did he do enough to save these people who are in danger, and, you know, what are the next steps here and certainly was his decision to pull back american troops in iraq that early, was that the right decision? >> was he in too much of a hurry to get out, that's part of the conversation. should he have leaned on the iraqi government to allow a residual force. that will be part. this will play out in the campaign. we'll see how based on what happens over the next couple of days. a couple of footnotes about the campaign. last night in tennessee lamar alexander, incumbent senator, defeated a tea party challenge. this is about the last big tea party test for a republican incumbent, senator lamar alexander wins, he's an overwhelming favorite to hold that seat for the republicans which is important if they had nominated somebody outside the mainstream, maybe it puts it in play and in montana the
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appointed senator john walsh has decided he will not run. he was appointed to the seat, involved in a plagiarism scandal and he's denieded not to run. does that add to the most likely a republican seat there? >> oh, yeah. i think it was already leaning that way but there was a sense that walsh was beginning to get a little bit of wind beneath his wings and was coming back a bit. this essentially takes that out unless democrats can nominate somebody who is really very right for the state, is the right fit. they are having a hard time getting anybody who actually wants to be the person who is the place holder because you're sort of running for a lost cause. most democrats that i talked to believe montana is not winnable anymore. >> not a rush of people jumping into that race which democrats had pretty much written off as a lost cass. >> pick me, pick me. >> exactly. >> what a treat. >> is it opportunity for a younger democrat to maybe at least get some name identification and looking for a run for governor or something else down the line? >> establish a fund-raising base. that's where you could see somebody who wants to make inroads, they could learn how to
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make money and learn how to make contacts but it's an ugly season. >> not a 2014 calculation. probably helps the republicans a little bit with both of those races. let's move back in history, not forward. 40 years ago tonight an american president stepping down. listen. >> i have never been a quitter. to leave office before my term is completed is abhorrent to every instinct in my body but as president i must put the interests of america first. america needs a full-time president and a full-time congress, particularly at this time, with problems we face at home and abroad. therefore, i shall resign the presidency effective at noon tomorrow. >> i'm the old guy at the table so i have faint memories of this. my dad was not a richard nixon fan. i remember watching this, 10
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years old watching with my dad. he was not a richard nixon fan. we bring it up to remind people the important history and we have a new cnn/orc poll. as time passes, especially as younger people have no memory of this. 52% say it was a serious matter, the resignation of watergate and 46% say just politics. is that a reflection, especially the younger group, older people think it was more serious, younger people say just politics. isn't that, everything seems like politics in this town now? >> i went back to the nixon library in california earlier this week for marking anniversary and the release of some of the new tapes where nixon tells his side of the story, and it was amazing walking around. first of all, almost no one there to mark this anniversary, but such a generational split where the younger folks were learning all of this history for the first time and saying, you know, haven't other presidents done worse than watergate? so -- >> it's not that big a deal.
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>> and yet you had a scandal that forced the president of the united states to resign. >> yes. >> and that dramatically undermined trust in government, when you had the huge campaign finance revolution back in the day, that people say we could use again now. trust in government, look at these numbers. do you completely trust the government? 53% in 1972. 36% in 1914 in the wake of watergate, and 13% of the american people say they trust the government all the time. a little healthy skepticism is a good thing, a good thing, but to me that 13% number is pretty stunning. >> this is are where you see when you look ahead to the 2016 presidential race. this is where it becomes very difficult, we talk about hillary clinton all the time obviously. she clearly has the clearest path to the nomination but historically we've never gone backwards a generation in terms of the presidency and the distrust in the institution is really a problem for anybody connected to washington. it is a huge problem. >> and we're having a daily debate right now once again 40 years later over the limits of executive power and whether obama has overreached so, you
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know, it's a very interesting moment in history to reflect on, but -- >> no trust in government. >> no trust. >> it's disgusting and disruptive to have 13% of the american people have trust in their government. that's sad. >> that's why no one is going to show up in november. >> probably right. >> thanks for coming in and we get back to new york and you guys. faith in government, not so good. >> my brother, trust is earned, trust is earned, john. >> a good way to put it. >> my goodness. nothing they can do to turn it around by november. i'll tell you that much. >> have a good weekend. >> thanks, john. >> see you soon. >> you, too. coming up on "new day," the isis threat up close. terrorists bent on genocide spreading like a plague across iraq. we're going to show you where they are and how they got there and what they want and what can be done to stop them. when folks think about what they get from alaska,
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as commander in chief i will not allow the united states to be dragged into fighting another war in iraq because there is no american military solution to the larger crisis in iraq.
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the only lasting solution is reconciliation among iraqi communities and stronger iraqi security forces. >> is that just wishful thinking. you did hear it there. no boots on the ground. preceded by no military action anymore and before that no more presence but the situation on the ground has changed in iraq, right? the new humanitarian health. this is the extent for now with the help that president obama is having to plan for in iraq. that is big question. this doesn't slow these terrorists and the crisis expands what is the next move. let's get some perspective from bobby ghosh, managing editor of "quar "kwauts" and in the last administration you spent a lot of time not just in iraq but in this region talking to people who are running for their lives. let's remind people, isis. they are now calling themselves the caliphate. >> and they are calling them an islamic state, want the world to think of them as not a group or
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movement but as a state. >> religious stayed. >> very religious state. kind of perverse interpretation of islam. >> extremism where if you are not with them, they want to kill you. >> even some of the people who you and i would think are with them. they want to kill pretty much everybody, chris. this is a -- this is a death cult. this is not a terrorist group as we know it. this is not a movement as we've seen before. >> death cult, worse than hamas and worse than al qaeda. >> by many magnitudes, worse than everything they have seen. enjoying the act of killing people, killing small groups and large groups of people, hundreds of people slaughtered, tonight. they are making videos of this thing and wanting to see them put out instructional videos. they are issuing statements saying this is how you behead a person, and in all the years i've covered conflict around the world and terrorism in that part of the world i've never seen anything this frightening. now, these are the videos of their handiwork.
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they are bragging about it. violence as a religious exercise. doesn't matter because they are being successful. yellow is where they are beating back two different military forces, the iraqi army which we trained and not only are they kicking their -- their foes across the land. they are taking a lot of their military assets which we gave them which they are getting increasingly better armed, yes? >> yes, they are, serious hardware, and this is only the iraqi portion. they have also got a big chunk of syria that they are controlling. together, they control something like the size of britain, like great britain. that's the size of territory over which they have almost complete control. >> now, the fact that they want to control makes them scary but also makes them vulnerable, right, because they will be setting up outposts and they will create places where you can attack them as opposed to traditional terrorism where they keep hiding and retreating amongst civilians. >> yes. >> they are taking territory and deploying local governors and police and the fighting force is scattering and moving. they are fighting multiple fronts.
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fighting against the syrians and kurds who are our friends in northern iraq. they have even gone into lebanon here and attacked in lebanon so they are fighting multiple fronts. they are spread thin and every time they open a new front we think, well, this is as far as they can go, but they seem to be able to go farther and farther. >> the iraqi military losing clearly. the kurds, good fighters. need better weapon which for the u.s. and community on whether to give them those. right now nobody has put up a real fight. they simply backed away and put their guns down and left. the kurds when they came up with them they withdrew from where isis was operating and moved into sort of the heartland of kurdistan intending to protect kurdistan so nobody has really given these guys a real fight outside of syria. >> the real question is can they? now the latest casualties of their progress is that this has become a genocide. they are coming to christians
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and minority groups saying change to be like us or we'll just kill you. what do you see in these groups. you've been among them. you know these cultures. this is a part of iraq and the middle east that's incredibly diverse. i don't know any other place all over the middle east that has this kind of diversity. there's christian populations, yezidi, some of the religions pre-date islam, some are thousands years old, little communities, 50,000 here, 100,000 there. they have survived for millennia. >> and now they are being wiped out? now they are under real threat of being completely eliminated. >> the yezidis, we've heard about this minority group flying up to the sinjar and up on to a mountaintop, last place of refu refuge, no water and troops are closing in. the only thing we can believe is they want to kill them. >> there's 40,000, 50,000 people out in the mountains. we've seen photographs of that. it looks biblical, like an exodus of people and they are completely exposed on those mountaintops, not like there's caves they can hide in and take
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shelter. >> it's high ground but with none of the benefits. >> high ground with no benefit. >> this may be the key, right or wrong. once you start killing christians, you will get more international attention. that's happening. we're covering it, but to be fair, christians have been ta taking a beating around the world, looking at the middle east and jerusalem. used to be 80% christian and now less than 10% and being kicked out in very harsh ways but this is an all-out genocide. how do you think this changes the fate? >> this forces western powers to pay attention. france has offered them refuge. the u.s. has obviously -- we saw the president last night speak much more forcefully and the authorization of force. that is going to change some of the calculus on the ground, but the question is whether it will happen fast enough to save those christians. right now they are flying. they are trying to stay with friends and relatives wherever they can or they are staying in sort of ref knee encampments, but can we get there fast enough because it's not -- we can argue
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and the president is saying there will be no boots on the ground. that's fine. none of our boots, but they have got to be some boots on the ground. the isis terrorists, they are on the ground and they can only realistically be taken out on ground. those have to be iraqi boots and kurdish boots and maybe the turks get involved and others. the one thing about isis that we can say with any confidence is that everybody hates them. they hated everybody, but in turn everybody hates them. >> they are getting popularity among those who want to create terror. that's why we're showing you the last map. no matter what the name is of the organization, there's a common philosophy. there's a common motivation and now there's going to be a common cash flow and that's where you have to look. not just with what's going on in iraq. we've been ignoring syria. over 100,000 people, isis instrumental, syria, iraq, yemen, looks like al qaeda, but it's changing. the brand sit. it's what the intentions are. north africa, another hotbed being ignored.
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>> boca haram in nigeria. a lot of these groups previously affiliated with al qaeda now they are pledging their allegiance to isis, to the -- to the so-called caliphate isis. in the terrorist isis. >> being the caliph mean you're the religious leader. >> very few muslims outside of those terrorist groups think of him like that. think of him as a terrorist leader. it would be like a christian fundamentalist terrorist claiming to be a pope, right? >> and increasingly they are treating to do attacks outside of these areas, specifically the u.s. bobby ghosh, thank you very much. need to learn more about this because the threat is growing every day.
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welcome back to "new day." breaking overnight the world health organization declaring the ebola epidemic in west africa a public health emergency. this morning we're looking at new scientific research about predicting deadly outbreaks. researchers around the globe could be close to some new warning system using a program based on weather patterns. we want to discuss what's new and what's next with mr. carlos watson. he comes back during the summer on fridays with us to talk about all of this, the co-founder and editor of ozzie.com. it's particularly important to
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talk about this because of the science of predicting, indra predicts the weather for us, maybe the same kinds of tools could be used in predicting outbreaks. >> very much so. the tools were used to predict crop problems and opportunities and now being applied in parts of africa to look at some of these questions, in particular some of the scientists have recognized that when there are periods of prolonged dryness followed by rain and heat that is where they see the ebola outbreaks. >> let's start with the countries we've been looking at, focused on guinea, sierra, liberia, where the outbreak is largest and also a spread to nigeria and now they have two suspected cases in benin. the patients there are in isolation. the question is, if we've gotten in front of this outbreak wouldn't have been nearly as bad. >> people hope and believe if if you looked at that data on weather you could have seen it
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coming to some extent, not perfectly but to some extent and could have put in place certain measures to prevent it. if you look at periods of dryness followed by lots of precipitation, that those are often when you see the ebola outbreaks over the last 40 years. >> compared to the meteorologists it's not just models, they look at the actual data that's coming in, things like precipitation, they look at vapors, they look at all of this. >> rainfall, heat, all of that good stuff can tell you a lot of information, not only about ebola but about other infectious diseases as well. they're taking this information from some of the nasa satellites and marrying it with some of the google earth information in order to put these predictive models and sometimes the models work well, sometimes they give you advance warning, a month or two months and sometimes as much as four months in other cases. >> give me an idea, going back to the notion you were talking about extreme drought followed by extreme rain. what happens? >> so a couple interest things
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happen. number one, the bats which in many cases they believe the bats are carrying the ebola virus, tend to reproduce more and they reproduce more, spreading the virus to their mate and that ultimately as we know in many parts of the world people are eating what they call bush meat. >> that could include bats, rats. >> rats, monkeys, all sorts of stuff. you will go to open air bazaars, side of the streets. on a food truck you see that meat there. sometimes the meat is smoked, sometimes it's not. >> and the preparation of it is when they're concerned about maybe the infection occurring. you talked about the fact that it's used for other deadly diseases, and the diseases that are affecting the world. malaria there's been signs looking at this. >> very much so, some scientists at columbia university did a study looking at malaria, areas that are super hot, areas and particularly what they call the sah sahel region of africa, areas that are particularly hot and wet, where you see a lot of risk
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of malaria. areas that are particularly dry so parts of the sahara desert is where they see meningitis break out, and again, it's a one two two-month warning system in both of these cases. >> there's been some success and i want to quickly point to this graphic. tell us about this researcher that had some interesting findings. >> what's very interesting about her, she was a doctoral student and wasn't a full-fledged researcher. i woke her up in the middle of the night to talk about this. in singapore they looked at dengue fever and figured out based on weather patterns when things got wet and hot, mosquitos grew more and spread the dengue fever when they bite people, people's necks become stiff and she was able to predict about four months ahead of time, 16 weeks, when the dengue fever outbreak could be on its way. >> they have enough time to mobilize, get resources in, and maybe stem the tide of an
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and the barrage didn't stop there. israel is now responding with force in gaza, and the peace negotiations seem to be over. the israeli delegation has left the talks. so what next? >> your "new day" continues right now. good morning and welcome once again to "new day." it's friday, august 8.8:00 in the east now. we welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. breaking news this morning, as we've told you, the united states is taking on the fight against isis in iraq. president obama has now approved targeted air strikes to stop the advance of isis militants who have been taking over land and terrorizing, killing civilians. the president deciding to act because militants are getting dangerously close to erbil, where american personnel remain to help the iraqi military once iraqi troops pull out. >> the terrorists aren't just taking land, they're taking lives. they launched a horrific
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campaign in sinjar, rooting out restians and religious minorities. tens of thousands have been driven out of their homes, they face a simple but ghastly choice, imagine this, run or convert to what we call islam or face execution. many who did flee are now stranded on a mountain for days and they are fearing for their lives. the u.s. military is offering help overnight dropping in food, water, basic supplies, but if more is not done and soon, the dead may well outnumber the living. cnn pentagon correspondent barbara starr has the details of the president's announcement and the next steps in the fight against isis. barbara? >> good morning, chris. significant military order from the president overnight, air strikes are authorized. what does that mean? that means it could happen at any time without the military going back to the white house for another round of approvals. >> we do whatever is necessary to protect our people. >> reporter: this morning, u.s.
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forces at the ready. president obama authorizing targeted air strikes to protect american personnel in irbil, the capital of the kurdish region, now threatened by isis militants. >> we intend to stay vigilant and take action. these terrorists have continued to move across iraq and have neared the city of irbil, where american diplomats and civilians serve at our consulate, and american military personnel advise iraqi forces. >> reporter: overnight a humanitarian aid drop was already made atop a mountain near sinjar where thousands offof yazidis fled. >> these terrorists have been's special i had barbaric towards religious minorities. the innocent families are faced with a horrible choice, descend the mountain and be slaughtered or stay and slowly die of thirst and hunger. >> reporter: three air force cargo planes escorted by two fighter jets supplied over 70
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bundles of critical aid, including thousands of gallons of water and food. race to stop catastrophe, after 40 children have reportedly already died from thirst, the president also authorizing more targeted air strikes to help iraqi forces, as they attempt to break the mountain siege. >> today america is coming to help. >> reporter: isis also targeting christians, and attacking in areas around ninevah province, iraq's christian area, overrun by militants, forcing thousands of christians to flee. isis fighters posing this ultimatum to iraqis, convert to islam or die. a reign of terror continues as isis gains control and takes over key parts of the country, including iraq's largest dam, according to the militants, a key source of electricity and water. the white house continuing to rule out any u.s. military boots
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on the ground. if there is military action, it will be air strikes at this point, and now thousands, tens of thousands of iraqis on the run with nowhere to go. chris? >> the looming concern, barbara, what if the air strikes are not enough? then what to save all these lives. thank you for the reporting. let us know what changes. kate over to you. >> the threat to american personnel is a huge concern for president obama but the humanitarian crisis that's going on in the region is also devastating. militants taking control over so much land in the north over here, driving hundreds of thousands of people away, as barbara was just laying out. will they ever get their lives back? that question remains to be known. cnn's ivan watson joins us on the phone now, he's in iraq, he's in irbil. ivan, you were able to spend time with some of these people who have fled for their lives. what are they up against? >> reporter: to describe the
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image now, the community is affiliated with the roman catholic church. there are hundreds of displaced people, children and elderly, some of them have mattresses on the floor. they have fled here within the last -- >> all right we'll get back to ivan in a second, clearly having communications issues there. we'll get back to ivan to reconnect. >> he's in a remote place, it is difficult and dangerous. we have a lot of per peckive on what's going on in iraq. earlier we spoke with the spokesman for the pentagon about the situation. here is what he had to say about the authorization to use force in iraq, this is rear admiral john kirby. >> we're prepared to do what the president has authorized us to do and as i said, its to provide, well we've already
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provided these air drops, these supplies to those iraqi citizens on mt. sinjar and planners and central command are doing the necessary work to plan and be prepared to conduct air strikes against isil targets if and when required. >> is that enough? do you think you can get this done from the air with a force that is spread out so wide and random in attacks and has no real base of power? >> remember though, chris, the mission really is to protect american personnel in irbil and potentially even in and around baghdad, and also, and this san important point, to try to help iraqi security forces as they go after this threat. >> right, but you also know they seem to be losing it by larger and larger margins and isis, or whatever you want to call them, these terrorists are getting more and more american assets that we gave to the iraqi army, so at what point do you think that that country just falls to the threat?
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>> isil's progress in iraq has been swift. there's no question about that. they're well-read, well resourced but it's also been mixed, chris. yes they've moved swiftly and made progress in the north but not so throughout the rest of the country. >> is from your understanding of what the mission is from the white house at this point, is the fact that these people are being hunted down and killed our problem? is the u.s. going to protect them? >> it is eye problem for the international community, and the international community has also responded with some humanitarian assistance. the government of iraq has provided some humanitarian assistance, we're chipping into that effort as well. the president was very clear about this, this is something the whole world needs to take note of. >> what's the whole world going to do about it? we're only hearing about u.s. actions and undoubtedly not enough. john kirby is traveling with the secretary of defense right now in india. might that military want to step up and help here? let's discuss the possibilities.
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we have fareed zakaria, host of "fareed zakaria gps" also "the washington post" columnist and contributing editor for "atlantic media." you'll be talking about this on all of those venues coming forward. on the u.s. political side we're hearing the usual in response to the president. you argue about who is to blame for the past, you question the plans of the current, when you have no plan yourself for the future. let's not play their game. if iraq falls, what happens? >> oh, if iraq falls, you have a catastrophe, because you would have this very, very extreme jihadi group that would be in control of a vast, not just territory, but one of the five or six largest oil-producing countries in the world with access to revenues in thebillio. the parts most threatened is courage stand. the united states since 1991 in collaboration with britain and france established a no-fly zone
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to protect the kurds. since then it is supported by a large part of the international community that the kurds should be protected. i think there is a humanitarian issue here and also a strategic issue. the kurds are an extraordinarily vibrant, independent-minded quite democratic force in the region. they're extremely pro-american, pro-western. there's a strategic interest making sure the kurds do not fall to isis. >> that looks like what's happening because they're outgunned, so do you train them? do you arm them? if so, why aren't you doing it? >> i believe we need to get more ambitious here because we've been stymied, we've been stopped in terms of our involvement because of the fact that maliki, the prime minister of iraq, is a sectarian shiite who is not creating a national unity government. he's pissing off the sunnis but that's not true with the kurds. historically, the united states has succeeded in its interventions abroad when the locals are legitimate and want
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to fight. think of south korea, where that was true versus south vietnam, where the locals didn't want to fight. there wasn't an authentic. the kurds are authentic, they're independent, as i said they're fierce fighters and they're very pro-western. we should tie our policy in the region to the idea that we're going to make much more ambitious effort to ensure that courage stand survives in independency. >> the group isis, now calling themselves the caliphate because they want to create an extremely religious state and rule it, which makes them different from the terrorist threats of the past, they are trying to hunt down and kill christians and other minorities. that is their goal and it will happen if they're not stopped, true? >> absolutely. understand the depth of the tragedy, christian life in this part of the world has existed from the time of the bible. part of the tragedy is that, because of this highly sectarian government in baghdad, christians have been fleeing
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anyway, hundreds of thousands, even before this, but what isis would do would be to literally extension wish christian life in its original lands. >> so where isser? we always talk about what the bar is that triggers international action. we haven't seen it in syria. we haven't seen it in the middle east, but what about this? what about the fact that it's christians and the united states, right, what are they always saying about themselves, the united states? we're a christian country first. where is the outrage here? >> well, i think that in the short term, nobody can act but the united states, and i think i would support -- >> why can't india come in, why can't the u.n. come in? >> nobody has the military capacity the united states can, in humanitarian sense in terms of aid they can. the next item on the agenda for the obama administration, god know this is is complicated should be to assemble an international coalition. if you think about it strategically as i say the position of the kurds if you think about it in humanitarian terms the extinction of
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christian life in iraq, are important enough goals that you should be able to assemble an international coalition. we're going to have to do the heavy lifting. >> a military source says to me the humanitarian part that's everybody's heart going, if you don't do anything else you're fattening people up to be slaughtered. >> absolutely true. that's why i favor a more ambitious strategy. napoleon once said if you're going to take vienna, get vie a vienna. if you get involved in a fight, fight to win. i'd like too see more aid drop. if your goal is to defeat isis and protect the kurdish people and these christians you have to do something to make sure that happens. >> the question raised for people as they start their new day here, you'll take on this weekend to are sure, if there is a vacuum of response to this, iran may welcome in and join with their shia brothers and sisters and take on this fight. what would that mean for u.s. interests if you had iran in control of iraq? it's a question fareed will take on. thank you for helping us here
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>> welcome back. we are following all the breaking developments coming out of the middle east. rockets and air strikes happening again over israel and gaza after a three-day cease-fire expired and truce talks have fallen apart. what now? is there any hope for a cease-fire and for peace talks to start back up? we're joined by jake tapper on the ground in jerusalem for days now as well as peter beinart, senior commentator and columnist for "haretz." now the vice president of the woodrow wilson international center. gentlemen, hold on one second. i want to get to jake first to find out exactly, jake, what are you seeing on the ground? you spoke with netanyahu's spokesman in a very important, timely, interesting interview a short time ago. >> well right now what we're seeing is basically where this
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war was before israel launched the ground campaign. we're seeing militants in gaza firing rockets at israeli population centers. israel responding with air strikes. so far we have word of some casualties on both sides, one death, a 10-year-old boy in gaza, but things are, compared to where they have in this conflict, things are fairly low level as of right now, that's not to say that if you're next to one of those rockets or missiles that goes off, it's not very serious but compared to where it's been, it has not been as heated. in terms of whatever cease-fire talks were going on in cairo, those seem to be on hold for now. israel has, its delegation has returned to israel, so there are no longer any individuals there speaking on behalf of israel with egyptians indirectly speaking with palestinian groups. there was a move, as you know, kate, by palestinians to push
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hamas to allow this cease-fire to be extended, but hamas said no, and we heard last night, they said unless their demands were met and the blockade or what they called the siege of gaza was lifted, they were going to consider the cease-fire expiring at 8:00 a.m. this morning, which it did and in fact, some militants in gaza, although it's unclear who specifically was responsible, some militants broke the cease-fire several hours before it was set to expire. kate? >> jake has been making an interesting and important point, peter. hamas is saying meet the demands, lift the blockade or we'll let the cease-fire expire. okay, that happened. they let the cease-fire expire, but is that kind of defying logic and how negotiations happen? that's one the main demands coming from hamas. there's another main demand coming from israel. how do you sit down at a table and negotiate if you say we're not going to negotiate until you meet our first demand? >> it's hard to see how hamas by relaunching more rockets is
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going to get in a better position. it's going to create a political environment in israel in which benjamin netanyahu feels pressure to take an even harder line. if there is a deal here it's some trade between some lifting of some aspects of the blockade, not fully but some aspects like allowing the fishermen to go further off the coast for instance and having palestinian authority, that's mahmoud abbas' guys at the the border crossings between egypt and gaza. so therefore you get abbas rather than hamas on the ground in gaza, which gives israelis a little more confidence. hamas can say we've opened up that crossing a little bit but for whatever reason you weren't able to make that deal in cairo and seems like it will be even harder. >> where is the motivation, aaron, at that point for israel to head back to the negotiating table, do you think? >> there is none. the israelis aren't going to negotiate under pressure. i think in a way we're not reading this correctly. hamas' military wing is asce ascendant. they think they're winning.
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they've killed more israelis in previous operations combined. they've temporarily closed bengurian airport. they've kept the israelis on edge for almost a month and the reality is they do not want to cede power to the palestinian authority and to allow the p.a. to be the agency that delivers gaza's redemption through billions in economic assistance, support -- >> aaron, do you see there being any quiet if the p.a. does not become the power again? >> no, but then again i'm not entirely sure you can get a solution to this. what you'll get is an outcome. maybe you'll buy some additional time. look, we're going to see i think over the next several weeks an off again/on again war of attrition, and the reality is the israeli/hamas standoff and struggle is just part of the broader piece. until you can find a way to solve the palestinian issue, hamas is going to be there and they're going to continue to cause significant trouble. >> jake, when you spoke to mark
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regev, the spokesman for benjamin netanyahu, he said that the premise for moving forward is nonviolence. he is stating very clearly exactly what aaron is alluding to, they don't see any motivation to move forward. do you see any room, are you sensing any room for getting back to the negotiating table, because saeb erakat says the talks are not dead yet. >> well, the talks are never dead. even when they're fighting each other, the talks theoretically are never dead but here's the point. if you're in hamas, okay, and i'm not excusing the group. it's obviously a group the u.s. considers to be a terrorist group but if you're in hamas and you look at fatah, the party in power in the west bank, mahmoud abbas' party, he agreed to demilitarize the west bank. you look at the west bank experiment. you look at the fact that the settlements are still being built, there is no palestinian state there, there is no airport even that has been built. you say what is the incentive for us to demilitarize.
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the last ones who did that in oslo didn't get anything. i'm not saying the israeli request or demands for demilitarization of gaza is unreasonable. i think it makes a lot of sense for israel. they're sick of their people being fired upon by rockets. from the perspective of hamas, that is their last card to play, the fact that they can fire rockets at israel. so that's the conundrum when it comes to demanding demilitarization. >> part of the conundrum, peter, is the fact that do you think that what hamas and the palestinian people are calling for, demanding, lifting the blockade or on some level easing the restrictions, is that unreasonable on its face? >> well, israel is concerned about weapons going in there. they're also concerned about dual use things like concrete being used for tunnels. >> if lifted how do you control it. >> that's understandable. when you create a blockade that shuts down the economy in gaza, for instance, almost impossible to export out of gaza to israel in the west bank, what you do is
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you create a population that's more desperate, more enraged, which ultimately i think strengthens hamas. the business class in gaza, which could have been an alternative center of power to hamas has basically been destroyed because they can't export out of the countries. so that's the balance. yes, israel has legitimate security concerns in gaza, but at a certain point, when you punish the entire population too much, i think it rebounds from a security point of view and you ultimately create more security problems for yourself. >> but you can't keep firing rockets, aaron, and expect israel to want to negotiate. israel's going to come back harder, right? >> well, the prime minister has aproblem. he doesn't want to reoccupy gaza and doesn't want to launch a massive ground incursion which could quadruple the number of israeli idf casualties and increase exponentially the number of civilians in gaza that are going to be killed yet at the same time he promised to some degree this won't end in a
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tie. he's looking for a definitive ending unlike lebanon in '06 and the two previous rounds. he really is facing a dhem dilemma. i looked at where the story appears on the rundown, no longer the top of the hour. you got ebola and something else. you have this administration on the cusp of what could be a major and encumbering set of new initiatives in iraq, and in a way, this is going to reduce this story to a degree of scale that may well and i'm not sure this is a great idea, leave the israelis and the palestinians more and more to their own devices and that frankly, only portends additional clashes and confrontation. >> you don't think if there's less attention on it it offers them an opportunity to make a better deal? >> if there was a major incentive on the part of the two major combatants, israel and
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hamas, to cut a deal, the answer would be yes. i'm not entirely persuaded, back to hamas' military wing that they're quite ready to stand down and they see escalation as a way to increase the pressure on israel. i think they're wrong and that's why i think we're headed for a significant uptick in the level of violence. >> i think you make a very important point. we'll end on that, though t doesn't seem hamas' military wing thinks they are losing in continuing this fight at all. they don't see a reason to go to the negotiating table because the rockets are their negotiating tactic. aaron, peter, jake, thanks so much. jake be safe. watch "the lead with jake tapper" every day 4:00 p.m. eastern right here on cnn. jake will continue his great reporting from the ground in jerusalem. coming up next on "new day," president obama authorized targeted air strikes against isis forces, wreaking havoc in iraq right now. we'll get the perspective from a former u.s. ambassador to iraq
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you need the eye to come ashore to see that. the effects are definitely being felt as you look at the radar, seeing some of the heavier rain and the outer bands are making their way ashore. 37-mile-per-hour winds around hilo. the big concern is that it's expected to move across the islands throughout the day and then exiting off by saturday, but before that all happens, we're going to be talking about heavy amounts of rain inundating the area, up to a foot of rain is expected not only in the big eye rand but also out towards maui, oahu and kauai. four to seven inches is key, this is a mountainous area. you talk about the direct impact towards hilo, the mountains gets the heaviest amounts of rainfall, the biggest threat are the mudslides in line for hilo. they'll have one day to recover before a stronger system, julio comes in mind it, still expected to be a category 1 hurricane but staying to a path north of the island. we'll be watching that closely. >> great to know iselle isn't a hurricane anymore but you said
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it is still creating a mess and julio right behind it. short break here on "new day," president obama is preparing the military for air strikes in iraq. will those strikes achieve anything? and what about fears of so-called mission creep? ahead we speak with a former u.s. ambassador to iraq. they've really stood the test of time. much like these majestic rocky mountains. which must be named after the... that would be rocky the flying squirrel, mr. gecko sir. obviously! ahh come on bullwinkle, they're named after... ...first president george rockington! that doesn't even make any sense...mr...uhh...winkle. geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance.
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isil's campaign of terror against the innocent, including the yazidi and christian minorities, and its grotesque targeted acts of violence show all the warning signs of genocide. for anyone who needed a wake-up call, this is it. >> warning signs have become actual genocide, that was secretary of state john kerry speaking moments ago with harsh condemnation of isis militants in iraq. isis or isil, or now called the caliphate, we're discussing the same group, a bunch of terrorists bent on making iraq and other areas part of an extremist religious stronghold and they're going to kill people in their path, now including christians. that's why the president authorized air strikes against these terrorists and assures americans that that is as far as the u.s. military will go. but what if it's not far enough
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to help these civilians who are being killed to help stabilize iraq? let's get some perspective, joining us now ambassador james jeffery, u.s. envoy from 2010 to 2012. we're hearing a lot of the typical u.s. political chatter. i told you so, i told you so. i knew this would happen but for whatever reason through republican and democratic administrations, we've wound up here. what needs to happen to stabilize iraq? >> well, first of all, the president needs to carry through the authorization to use military force with actual military force. we're not talking about ground troops here. we're talking about air strikes, as you just showed in your film clip, isis is a highly mobile motorized force driving around in pickup trucks in open terrain. this is classic targets for air strikes, be they drones, be they apache helicopters, be they manned air, but it is imperative that we start doing this right
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now, or we're going to see massacre after massacre and advance after advance. we've seen this movie since fallujah in january, and it's just getting worse. >> but if he has already referred authority to the military, isn't it now their call for what happens and when? >> no, first of all from my experience in the white house, something like this, before the first trigger is pulled, the president will be informed and he will be on board. the problem is, he's left this as only protecting the americans in irbil, which is important, and possibly to stop a genocide on sinjar mountain why the yazidi kurds are. isis is a threat not only to those people, it's a threat to baghdad, to the sunni aare abs at the haditha dam, it's a threat to the entire country at the mosul dam. nothing will stop them if you don't have american air supporting iraqi forces on the ground. >> isn't it true that the iraqi forces on the ground have failed and that the kurdish fighters who are historically friends of
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the u.s. and that would be legitimate aid, they need desperate aid to maintain the fight against isis, because right now, they're all losing the fight. isn't that true, that air strikes are not enough by themselves? >> well, they are all losing the fight in areas that are not majority shia arab or kurdish. the shia or the iraqi army has fought better around baghdad. they need logistics. they need advice. they need intelligence and better weapon, particularly the kurds, but in addition they need air strikes. they have hundreds of thousands of ground troops but they are demobilized because of the way isil fights and the answer to that is american support. it not only has military value, it has tremendous psychological value. i saw that in vietnam in 1972 when u.s. air strikes turned around the south vietnamese army within days. >> people back here at home they'll say we don't care about this. this is their fight. isn't it true that the intentions of the organization of terrorists now calling
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themselves the caliphate are training for strikes abroad including in the united states? >> of course. and president obama made that clear on the 19th of june when he first said he was putting troops in. there's the oil flow from the middle east. they want to threaten that and they're already moving towards it. there is our allies, be it jordan, be it israel, be it turkey and most importantly, there is a threat of an even bigger afghanistan under the control of an even more lethal al qaeda element and that's what we're facing right now. >> there is a right way and wrong way to do this for the u.s. the right way, people suggest, and i want your take on it, is help the kurds. you've helped them before. they're friendly to you and you would not be emboldening the shia minority, because you don't want to do that because the wrong way would be if you don't help the kurds and you help the shia, you are opening the door to iran and that could make the situation exponentially worse. your thoughts? >> well, first it's the shia are the majority in iraq.
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secondly, the president should not and he made this clear do massive air strikes for the iraqi army until we get a more inclusive government. we're moving towards that. the present prime minister maliki has to go for the sunnis and kurds to participate in any joint effort and that is an important point and the president i think will hold to that, but right now we have an emergency situation not only near irbil and on sinjar mountain, frankly at the haditha dam, the refinery, we have strategic targets isil is rounding and attacking. if we take action in the air for the limited objectives i think we'll find allies on the ground. >> also you couldn't have a more high ground mo areal position than the fact the christians are being hunted down and killed by isis. i refer to the shia minority it's those who have chosen to fight back are a small number, that opens the door for iran. do you see a possibility for the
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u.s. to work with iran to help stabilize iraq? >> absolutely not. the moment we cooperate with iran and the moment iranian forces go in, and i foo fear th will go in if the united states doesn't provide support, we lose the sunni arab middle east, we lose some fighting against isil and we'd be in an extremely confusing position, given the situation in syria and gaza where, in all of these areas, iran is doing everything in its power to expand its evil influence and to undercut our allies. >> but it is interesting that you do have joint purposes right now, at least in fighting back this organization with the u.s. and iran. it makes it more interesting. ambassador jeffrey, thank you for the perspective. appreciate it. look forward to calling on you again in this situation. >> thank you very much. >> let's take a break here on "new day." when we come back, the legacy of watergate, 40 years it's been since nixon resigned. can you imagine that?
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the relationship of politics and journalism in america. let's discuss further with none other than carl bernstein. carl's investigating reporting as everyone and knows at "the washington post" helped expose the watergate scandal, now a cnn political commentator. great to see you. >> good to be here. >> on a day like this, some people make a lot of anniversaries, some people make a little bit about it. on this day 40 years ago when nixon announced his resignation, do you remember that moment for you what that was like to watch that happen? >> yes. bob woodward and myself were in "the washington post" newsroom and i think we both felt absolute awe, awe that the system had worked in watergate, that richard nixon was leaving office, a criminal president of the united states had been forced to resign his office, and also we were aware that "the washington post" had a real role in this. the press had done its job. the congress had done its job,
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the supreme court, and it was a time for real reflection. >> talk about reflection, has over time your view of the nixon presidency changed at all? >> it has and in the 40th anniversary edition of "all the presidents men" we wrote a new afterward to the book in which we say watergate was far worse than we even managed it at the time. this was a criminal presidency from the first days of the nixon presidency, until the resignation. we hear on these tapes how "watergate" began, the illegalities, the break-ins, the criminal mentality, led by the president, began in the first days of the nixon presidency, and continued wiretapping illegal of reporters of the political enemies, using the irs against enemies, break-in after break-in, sabotage and espionage to undermine the very free
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electoral system of the united states, ordered from the white house. there's never been anything in our history like this, and it's interesting to reflect today people talking about impeaching president obama for overstepping his powers. it's outrageous. if he's overstepped his powers and there have been frequent clashes about the authority of the presidency, the courts and the supreme court are the place to adjudicate this, but to somehow equate this with high crimes and misdemeanors is a grave misreading of history and a mistake. >> carl bernstein, it's always great to have you on especially on a day like today, marking the 40th anniversary of the resignation of president nixon. thank you so much, carl. we'll talk to you soon. >> good to be here. we're going to be sure to watch the documentary on nixon tonight at 9:00 p.m. eastern and be sure to check out carl's latest book "a woman in charge: the life of hillary rodham
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clinton." we'll be back right after this breaking news coming at you. we have breaking news, with we heard the president say last night that air strikes were authorized, and we have understood now that they may be ongoing. the goal was obvious, to slow down isis as it is trying to claim area and now trying to hunt down and kill christians and other minority groups. we go to jim acosta at the white house. what do we know? >> rear admiral john kirby just tweeted a few moments ago what the pentagon is now announcing, what the white house is now announcing, that is that the u.s. has conducted air strikes in iraq according to this tweet from john kirby t says "u.s. military aircraft conduct strike on isil artillery, the artillery was used against kurdish forces defending irbil near u.s. personnel."
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chris, that has been one of the thresholds for the white house, for the obama administration for launching air strikes as u.s. military advisers in irbil, the diplomatic consulate that is also there, the president, white house officials were saying yesterday, if that was being threatened, if the personnel were being threatened that the u.s. would launch air strikes and rear admiral john kirby announcing on twitter that those air strikes have happened and so the second part of this operation the president announced last night, one being the humanitarian air drops and the second authorizing air strikes the second part of the mission has begun. >> we had heard, jim, from the ground that it's not enough just to feed these people. you have to do that but otherwise if that's all you do you've been fattening them up for slaughter. these attacks, these strikes are not a surprise but the way they're worded is also interesting, that they were coming to the defense of kurd positions, defending the city of irbil and surrounding situations. that matters, right, because the u.s. has a history with the kurds and this would be seen as
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an extension of that relationship. yes? >> that's right. if there's any pro-u.s. or the most pro-u.s. part of the iraqi population it would be the kurds in the north. the u.s. has always had the most confidence in that part of the country. the kurdish defense forces up there and so forth but make no mistake, this is really about preventing and stopping genocide. you've heard this from the u.n. ambassador, samantha power, valerie jarrett tweeted it last night. jean casarez, who is traveling overseas talked about it in the wee hours of the morning, he was at a press conference in afghanistan and said this is about preventing genocide and that those yazidis who are taking refuge in the mountains in northern iraq, they basically have no defense at this point. they could be slaughtered, and what the president said last night is in the face of that, the united states is not going to turn a blind eye and allow that to happen, and so that is partly why this is happening, but one thing i want to point out, chris, i talked to a senior white house official last night
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who said that the president's top priority in iraq is protecting u.s. personnel, and so this was really a line that isil crossed, if you want to call it a red line, that isil crossed. that is what triggered these air strikes. now, the one thing we should point out is that at this point, the president is making no plans to alter his trip up to martha's vineyard. that is supposed to happen tomorrow and i've been told by white house officials he is taking his national security or members of his national security team with him so this may be something that's developing minute by minute, hour by hour, day by day. >> once the authority is given by the president, the call is the military's anyway. they'll be carrying out the strikes. the question is how effective are they going? we'll learn more about that. jim, stand by, see what you can figure out. we'll be back to you. >> to the pentagon, barbara starr has been standing by. we've talked about all morning the president has approved these air strikes. now we know they have ordered and executed. what are you hearing from your
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been flying over iraq looking for any situation where the military and diplomatic personnel in irbil might have come under threat and they were ready to go, they have the authorization, looking for any situation where they needed to take action and they found it this morning, artillery shelling into irbil, isis artillery, way too much of a threat to u.s. personnel in irbil, so the u.s. took action. two f-18s flying off the deck of the aircraft carrier "george bush" in the persian gulf, they came in over iraqi air space. we will get the laydown of exactly what weapons were dropped perhaps, but that is still to come. the f-18s fly obviously in pairs over any combat zone. once the president had authorized air strikes, it was perhaps simply a matter of time before action was going to be taken, but let's be clear. there are two situations here, related but two situations. air strikes in irbil to protect
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u.s. diplomatic and military personnel there. the potential for air strikes to protect those tens of thousands of iraqi minorities who are stranded on that mountaintop, and of course as ivan watson has been reporting we are seeing more iraqi civilians, kurds, fleeing the area from irbil, going up into the mountains, going to the countryside out of fear of an isis advance. we have not yet seen air strikes in those mountains to protect those people. very much what jim acosta was just saying, this is about the u.s. view that this is a potential genocide in those mountains, and they want to act to prevent it. the air strikes are aimed in either case at going after isis military formations, military personnel weapons, very tough business for them to be able to distinguish in large areas where there's civilian populations who may be isis, who may not be
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isis, but in this case this morning, there was a clear artillery position outside of irbil, and that is what they went after. kate? >> barbara, thank you very much. barbara starr is going to continue her great reporting at the pentagon for us. you see the breaking news, the president approved air strikes last night, but now we have learned at least the very first of what would probably not be the last of those air strikes had been ordered and executed in iraq. >> two f-18s sent off the aircraft carrier "george bush." no small irony that the aircraft carrier named after president bush, that's how long we've been in this situation in iraq. stay with cnn for the breaking news and how effective it is. we'll get you to "the newsroom" right now carol costello. carol? >> thanks, chris and kate. "newsroom" starts now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com good morning, everyone. i'm carol costello. thank you for joining me. we start this hour with breaking news out of iraq. the air strikes president obama author

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