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we hap we have a l. the terrible human toll in iraq. desperate men, women and children in northern iraq running for their lives from isis. ivan watson was there for this dramatic helicopter rescue that you have to see. meanwhile, a struggle for power in baghdad could make matters even worse. and president obama pushes for iraq to form a new government as u.s. air strikes batter isis. can those keep the country from spinning out of control? plus, it has happened again. this time it is in st. louis in a suburb. an unarmed black teenager shot and killed by a police officer. a community erupting in outrage right now. why did 18-year-old michael brown die in the street on the way to his grandmother's house? some witnesses say he was surrendering. police attacked the officer in the car. where does the truth lie?

is justice a moving target for young black men? plus the emotional interview with michael brown's mother and father. you don't want to miss that right here on cnn. we begin with more on the tragic death of robin williams. good to have all of you here tonight. his career really spanned so many years, michael. i've been saying, not many people get to have a career like that. and not many people, not many actors or comedians. >> i met him 30 years ago and i couldn't have imagined that he would exceed to that level. not only as a comedian, as a dramatic actor, a remarkable career. but the thing that i think is really concerning is that when depression meets isolation, when you're that famous, i think there is a tendency for people

of enormous fame to have an isolation to them that is, when mixed with depression, is incredibly toxic and combustible. >> of course, we know his public persona. we're seeing some of his most famous clips. he was an extra on "happy days." that's where that whole "mork & mindy" could not cement began. but he had three children, a wife, a family that obviously are in deep grief tonight. what more do we know about the rest of his life? >> did he and we did hear from his wife tonight shelf released a statement asking everyone not to remember the way that robin died but to remember the joy that he brought to everyone's life. she talked about his brilliance and how good and kind of a man he is. we also saw the last instagram post that robin williams put up on july 31st. it was wishing his daughter a him a 25th birthday. he posted a picture.

he called it throwback thursday. he post a picture of them when she was a baby and said, you're 25 years old today but you will always be my baby girl. there is the picture that we see right there. and he did. he had three children. he was married and divorced a couple of times but he got remarried to susan. and had been with her for a number of years. and seemed very happy. but again, his representative released a statement today saying simply, he was battling severe depression. so while we see this face, that face and those kind eyes, obviously, there was a serious battle going on behind his eyes. >> krista, can we talk about legacy? his wife said, i hope everyone focuses on his career and his life rather than the way he died. let's talk about legacy. what does he leave behind? what is his legacy? shaun, sorry about that. >> well, you know, don, you read

the president's statement on the passing of robin williams not too long ago. he called robin williams one of a kind. and he said that this was a profound loss for everybody out there. what the president said about robin williams was true. he was really one of a kind. nobody could do an interview like robin williams could do an interview. he just had such an infectious personality. and he just lit up that room. just so very, very talented. this man who is an oscar winner and had all these awards. still, was a very humble man. we just saw a picture of him that was taken not long ago. just a couple weeks ago where he looked very frail. just not, there wasn't that light in his eyes anymore. and as i said, just previously to you, it's time for us to start reaching out and making sure people are okay.

now, robin williams is definitely somebody who we knew could mask the pain because when he got in front of that camera, it lit up. but i really think it's time that we start making sure that people, you know, that we start checking on people to make sure they're doing okay. i'm all about just empathy and positivity. and this really hurts my heart like it hurts the heart of so many people. they were saying, we didn't know. we didn't know that he was so depressed and that he was thinking there was no way out of whatever he was going through. >> to you can to about what shaun was saying, of course he was an emmy winner, he was else a philanthropist. he raised millions of dollars with comic relief to help others along with billy crystal and whoopi goldberg and did he a lot of good while he was entertaining. >> he certainly. did. >> having represented so many

comedians throughout the years, i can tell that you there is a special problem associated with depression and comedians. so many comedians who appear so funny, so jovial, are often very, very sensitive people with a lot of down spirit. but they, they're not always recognized that way. because of the public persona. and i think robben was that in spades. his uniqueness was profound. so i think it is very difficult for an average person to associate depression with comedians, particularly when they're so uniquely gifted as robin was. >> thanks so much to all of you for coming on with your remembrances of robin. it has been great to talk to you and get your personal take. it was interesting to hear that he went cold turkey. he had an alcohol problem and he went cold turkey after john

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. another night of protests in ferguson, missouri, after the death of 18-year-old michael brown on thursday. he was shot to death by a police officer while he was unarmed. we'll to go jason carroll who is in missouri. police are on standby. it has calmed down a bit. what's going on? >> reporter: well, you know, a little while ago, things were really tense not far from here. we went out to the scene where we saw a number of police officers trying to disperse a crowd that had gathered near a mcdonald's. they fired tear gas. as we were standing there, they repeatedly got on the loud speaker. officers in riot gear telling people to disperse. to go back inside their homes. and most of the people we saw there were standing on their front lawns. standing on the sidewalks, obeying the law, doing what they

needed to do. there were a number of agitators there and police were able to diffuse the situation to get the people to move back. they didn't want another repeat of what they saw out here last night. a violent number of people looting and doing things in that manner. what we're seeing here in front of the tv station is a small group of people who have gathered on one side of the street peacefully. on the other side of the street you have a number of officers who are simply standing by and watching and waiting. and that's what we've really been seeing all night long. peaceful demonstrators like this and then small pockets of violence. other than that, the officers who have been out here talking to us basically saying, they're going to keep monitoring the situation. trying to get a handle on things and trying to get people to disperse before things turn ugly like they did last night. >> take us inside if you will to the crime scene. i understand that you went there today.

what did you learn? >> reporter: when you go out there, and i know you've been in a lot of urban communities before. you've heard this sentiment over and over again. i was speaking to one young man who said i go to school. i obey the law. when i come in and out of my community, i'm constantly stopped by the police. and this is a theme that i heard over and over again. and basically, what everyone was telling me, what that to michael brown was really the tipping point for many members of this community. when this happened to him, that is why you saw so much anger. which had been bubbling for quite some period of time. come to the surface. there is clearly a breakdown of a relationship between the police department and members of the african-american community here. and that's why you saw what happened here. and when i went out to the scene, you see people leaving cards. you've seen the makeshift memorials pop up over and over again. what i really got a sense of is this feeling of distrust between

the police department and the community here. >> jason carroll, thank you very much. >> how are you dealing with this right now? >> the best that i can. >> yeah. your son michael had just graduated from high school. he was set to start college today. tell us about him and what kind of a young man he was. >> well, you know, he was my first born. sweet, loving, dedicated. he worked hard to get through high school. he was waiting on his first day of school.

and they robbed us of that. they took one of my best friends. >> you were close. >> that's my son. first child i ever had. >> it's hard to convey a parent's agony, especially a mother's agony for losing a child. and i thought what you said was so profound about getting him to stay in school. getting him to go to college. graduate high school and to go college which has been a challenge. difficult for many african-american boys. why did you feel the need to say that? >> because it's true. it was the truth. and i needed them to know that people may do things and it

becomes repetitive in a certain way but we didn't, we don't live like that. not our family. we feel like we can do anything and go anywhere. we're not subject to living in the city. and like i said, just because my son is a 6'4" black male walking down a city street, does not mean he fit the profile for any, anything other than just walking down the street. that's all he was doing. >> you said that -- >> he didn't do nothing wrong. >> you said that he was your best friend. my mother is my best friend. what she would say is that you shouldn't go before i should go. your son should not die before you die. sadly you have to say that. >> are you okay, leslie?

>> i'll be okay, you know? i'm going to be okay. but right now i'm not. i'm not okay. >> michael. you heard leslie say it was her best friend. and you, how are you dealing with this? >> it's hard. he was my best friend too. it's hard. not seeing him. not talking to him on the phone. him cracking jokes. just playing around being him, you know. because i understood him. it was just a bond we had.

i'm going to miss all of that. like the memories in my head that will never go away. good times. >> your shirt says no justice. why are you wearing the shirt? >> because my son don't have justice. and we don't have no peace. if he has no justice, we won't get no peace. >> benjamin crump, i'm going to let you guys go. i want to talk to you about what should people know about what's going to happen with this particular case? i'm sure you're going to make sure that story is told and it is told accurately. and as the father said, he doesn't believe there is justice but there might be some justice for michael brown.

>> yes. as michael said, he will get joits. him and leslie have been steadfast that they will not stop until they get justice for their child. and myself and a lot of the lawyers with the national bar association and various other organizations are committed to making sure the people in st. louis know that they do deserve equal justice. that they do deserve due process. and that this is not right that their son was killed on a saturday afternoon in broad daylight walking down the street, doing nothing wrong. just minding his business. and yet he put his hands up and he is repeatedly shot by a police officer that's supposed to protect him. it is not justified in any circumstance. and that's why it is so hard for

leslie and it is so hard for michael to do these interviews. they know they have to do it. they have to get justice for their child because justice for their child, it helps change the system that says no more is this going to happen. >> to you first and then to your wife. i'm going to say this to you. as a father, be strong. make sure your family is okay but don't be afraid to break down and be vulnerable. because you can do that as a man. and to you, mom, i don't even know what to say to you except that every mother in this country, in this world is rooting for you. and so you stay strong. you have the entire world behind you. and if you ever, either of you need anything, you know how to get in touch with me personally. thank you. and i'm so sorry for your loss. truly sorry. thank you. >> thank you. staggering loss.

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we'll give you $150. comcast business. built for business. welcome back. one side says 18-year-old michael brown pushed a police officer inside his car and somehow at least one shot was fired. the other side says that the teenager had his hands up in the air, ready to surrender. one thing we know for sure, there is a disturbing number of young unarmed black men being shot. joining me to talk about this, criminal defense attorney who joins us as well. thank you guys. it's tough to do these stories. obviously. and mark, having read what you said earlier, up that the autopsy will really be the key

here to being completed to find out exactly what happened. >> well, first my prayers are with the brown family. and yes, forensics will play a big role in this case as i said in the other cases that we've talked about. if in fact the forensics support what the witnesses say, that michael was shot when he was either on the ground or with his hands in the air, then obviously it will be a real tough call for the police officer to justify that type of action. noonld, if there is some other forensics that might explain away the tussle that he was going through in the car. i think the outrage that is understandable when yet another black male is dead unarmed and in the street by a cop. we do need to try and hold on. listen to the facts as they come out. the one thing about this case, we will get justice. justice defind this way. an adversarial system will happen with both sides

represented in the lightest public scrutiny. and i think that will help. >> lz, you wrote a point yanlt piece. you said, i am timpld tired of our streets being peppered with dead, unarmed black people. tired of listening to armed assailants describe how they fear for their lives. tired of being told this has nothing to do with race. are you feeling as though there are more of these incidents in the past year than usual? >> i just feel like this has gone on for decades and decades. there was a tendency to think that once the civil rights movement went through and we had legislation, that thing would be better. we thought perhaps the election of president obama was a symbol that we were in a post racial society. what we see is that some of misconceptions and some of the stereo types that have plagued african-american men in this country, basically cynic the end of slavery, continues to haunt

us today. some of that is perpetuated by african-american culter itself. but some of it is perpetuated by other things such as institutionalized racism and a generalized distrust. i'm tired of people looking at african-american men. seeing them gunld down in our streets unarmed. and start to dissect what they did wrong as opposed to giving that person the benefit of the doubt as you would if it was a victim of a different color. that's what i'm tired of. >> it was always, he must have been doing something wrong if he was shot down by police. not necessarily. let's talk about ferguson. a suburb of st. louis. if we can put this up. this is from the missouri police department. about traffic stops. 5384 white residents, 12.7% black residents, 86% of the stops. total arrests, 521. white residents, 6.9.

the missouri attorney general's office. there is another one that shows the. a contra band that they got when they stopped these people. from 2013. white residents, 34.04. black residents, 27.71. even though they stopped more blacks, more whites had contraband. and people are looking at this, lz, as an indication of some sort of, that young black men, that black men are being profiled when it comes to that town. >> we've looked at the metrics of the stop and frisk situation in new york city how many despite the number of stop and frisk incidents, how little was turned up in terms of illegal ats. we know in terms of the number of arrests for marijuana, it is significantly higher with the african-americans despite the

white counter parts smoke as much if not more than the black people. so time and time again we've seen this discrepancy. and i'm not trying to say if you're a white person, listen to this now, that you're inherently racist. what i am saying is we have had a long strand of institutionalized racism that continues to fuel both our law enforcement and citizens view african-american men in particular. we need to have an honest conversation about this. >> the numbers that don just read are staggering. yes, there are twice as many blacks in ferguson, missouri, than whites. but they're pulled over and stopped seven times as. as white people are. what's the answer here? >> it's not just ferguson. it's all over the country. >> this is not just ferguson. you can't look at ferguson and say they are a racist society because of the way they treat young black males. those number throughout the

country. if there is anything that will come from michael brown's death, there will be another one of these. what it is showing, what we have to realize is that there is a toxic interaction between law enforcement and young black males. if you want to blame one completely over the other. obviously the cops have to be better trained. and the black community will have to accept some responsibility for this toxic interaction. if we don't, the conversation that lz said we need to have will never take place. what we will have is continuing screaming matches every time a young black male gets shot. >> when you say take responsibility, what does that look like? >> well, we know that young black males are in the system well more than they should be. and we also know that when we look at the statistics, that we can blame a certain amount of that on the systemeck view.

you can see the whole criminal justice system is planted in a way that is slanted. but if we suggested it were 100% of the system and nothing to do with the way young black males, because of the way they're treated. an excuse for them. we have to come to terms that this is a problem both sides will have to address. if it will get resolved. at least reduced. >> thank you, gentlemen. appreciate that. >> thanks so much. coming up, our other big story. ice and their reign of terror in iraq. how did they get so strong? we'll look at that. revolutiony by every standard. and that became our passion. to always build something better, airplanes that fly cleaner and farther on less fuel. that redefine comfort and connect the world like never before.

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i want to call your attention to your television screen to show you this incredible scene today in northern iraq. where thousands of desperate people are held up trying to he

is came the isis terrorists. the reporter was on a helicopter attempting a dangerous rescue mission and he shows us what happened. >> reporter: machine gunners release bursts of hot metal. this is the crew aboard an iraqi air force helicopter. burns and cartridges and belts of ammunition while rushing an aircraft full of food, diapers, and baby milk to those trapped on sinjar mountain. >> they're opening fire at targets down below. >> they're clearly trying to defend the aircraft. we can see the people below. trapped on sinjar mountain. they're clustered, they're

clustered under all the trees right now, waving to us. they seem to have gathered in these shelters down here. a lot of women and children waving. >> reporter: the crew hurls packages out the door. people swarm the chopper. >> this has been one chaotic mission. i hope we didn't hurt anybody with the bottles of water we were throwing down from a height of 20, 30 feet. it's chaotic. people were waving, giving thumbs up. and there are a number people very relieved to be off the mountain and clearly very, very frightened. >> reporter: then the helicopter lanlds one last time to pick up

more passengers. >> here they come. more desperate people throw themselves at the aircraft. heaving their children on board. it's first come first served. there were some who couldn't make it. aboard the aircraft, shock. exhaustion.

fear. that eventually gives way to relief. >> i can't describe to you how relieved people are right now. they're just shocked in the chaos of that moment. we've got this little girl here. she's not happy. she said her father got left behind. the gunners are opening fire on targets below. they're protecting the helicopter. but it's terrifying these little kids who are traumatized after their week trapped on that mountain. the problem is, we're flying over isis' red lines. this is the only protection we have right now to protect the aircraft and its precious cargo.

>> reporter: tensions ease when we cross over into kurdish controlled territory. for a moment there are even smiles as these children realize, their ordeal on the mountain is finally over. ivan watson, cnn over sinjar mountain in northern iraq. >> ivan watson has been doing incredible reporting for us. we're joined now by lieutenant colonel rick francona and former military attache in syria. and the national security analyst and a former senior official in the department of homeland security. great to have you both. what do you think of that video that we just showed and only select people could get on the helicopter. some are still trapped on the mountain top. >> amazing. they can only help so many. they can probably only pull off 20 to 30 at a time. that's not the answer. there are thousands on that mountain. it will require a full humanitarian effort and it goes

beyond a few helicopters. >> the mission has been described in terms of getting isis as limited in scope. the president has said that over and over. they're destroying convoys. it doesn't sound as though they're going after the leadership or if they even know where they are. what do you think of the mission? >> i think it is absolutely justified at this stage and ought to be limited. for one, we want to disrupt isis. the leadership, the organization, how it is able to terrorize certain areas of iraq. we want to protect u.s. interests, in kurdish areas, and of course throughout the middle east. and essentially, disrupt an entity that has gotten very large, very organized, very quickly, so that ought to be the mission. it is a combination of humanitarian and strategic. that's absolutely right at this stage. with no troops on the ground. >> colonel francona, i want to quote for you something that hillary clinton has been talking

about. she gave an interview to the atlantic magazine. and she talked about how she basically disagreed with the limited scope approach that she thinks president obama has favored. let me read to you a clip of that. she said the failure to help build all that credible fighting force of the people who were the originators of the protests against assad. she is talking about what happened in syria, of course. there were islamists, secularists, there was everything in the middle. the failure to do that left a big vacuum which the jihadists have now filled. do you think she's right? what we're seeing with isis now in iraq traces back to syria? >> absolutely. i think she is spot on with that analysis. that's exactly what happened in syria. we saw this power vacuum open up when no one in the west would help the free syrian army. the secularist, when we had a real opportunity to do something that could make a difference. so you have this power vacuum that was filled. not just by what is now called isis. back then it was the islamic

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the terrorist group ice you controls substantial parts of northern iraq where it is murdering and terrorizing countless numbers of people. we're back with colonel rick francona and juliet. the air strikes have been quote, very effective against isis. do we know what that means and how many ice i go members have been taken out? >> they've released some numbers. it is in the low 20, 30. that's not the point. he said they're being effective. they're being effective at what

they're aimed at. the goal is to assist in the humanitarian operation around sinjar mountain. they're doing that. they're allowed the kurds to get in there and open a corridor. they're keeping isis at bay and keeping them away from making the advance on the city. that's all well and good. that's as far as it goes. they're not striking isis in a big manner. they're not going after what i call core isis. they're not hitting them that mosul. they're not going after the troop formations as probably they should. continuing president wants to wait until we have some sort of inclusive government in bag. but i'm not sure we have the time, the luxury of time to do that. because isis remains on the move. so i think it is a more critical issue than i think we're looking at. i would like to see more air strikes all over the area. not just isolated to erbil and

the isis area. >> what about sending more arms? what is there to deability? isn't that the answer? >> i think they're debating quantity at this stage, not whether. and one can assume we're giving lots of help through third countries as well as intelligence. so that's just the way it works. even if it is not direct from us to the kurds, there will be other ways we can support them. that's absolutely necessary. it is a safe and protected kurdish population is in america's best interests. it doesn't just have to do with american personnel. it obviously has to do with our energy and oil interests. and the challenge that we have of sort of increasing military strikes in iraq. that iraq is a sovereign country. right now in the middle of a very, very difficult, i guess you could call it, a government transition. >> but they're asking for our help. >> yes. right. >> but to expand it geographically at this stage is not something that we ought to do without the full support of

what might be at some stage, relatively soon, a unified iraqi government. >> let's talk more about the threat at home. should we be more concerned in the u.s. that isis will turn their focus to us? >> eventually. i don't see this as an immediate threat. i think as a potential threat. if ice sis allowed to retain territory in that space between baghdad and damascus, if they're able to set up what they want to call the islamic state, and they have territory. i would liken this to afghanistan in 1996. they're going to set up an area where they're sovereign and they can allow training to go on and we could see something in a few years down the road, where they mount some sort of attack against the united states. i don't think we'll see an isis attack in the united states next week. but it is something we need to address. and as long as isis remeans a viable entity, that threat always exists. >> let's hope you're right. that we won't see an isis connection in the united states. but an alleged ice sympathizer

was arrested at jfk. so it seems as though perhaps, they do have u.s. passports and maybe making inroads. >> right. there's a couple things. first, of course, there will be people who are self-pro claiming as adherence to isis or people who are want a be terrorists. unfortunately in the world we live in, they will always exist. and our counter terrorism efforts are a little like that, that you're trying to stop them before they go to the next stage. that's the first thing. and that is a part of the post 9/11 world. but i would agree that there is no reason to believe there is an imminent threat right now. not simply based on intelligence but because isis has not shown its interests in being a global threat. its particular interests right now is in iraq. we have to continue to monitor it, break it up so it doesn't become a threat. not just to the united states but the western allies who are

much closer geographically. >> what are we doing? what needs to be done to contain isis? i know that rick francona said he thinks the strikes should be bigger. what really needs to be done to contain isis? >> i think what we have to do is disrupt it. we have to support a sovereign and strong iraq as well as iraqi defense so -- this is essentially their war. this is their internal problem that we need to protect. the kurds for both strategic and humanitarian interests. and then also use all the other tools of national security. so it's not simply military. it is our intelligence efforts, our diplomacy, it is our law enforcement efforts as well as homeland security. so people are very worried about members of isis being american citizens. but right now, anyone with a u.s. pass ported who has gone missing for a couple months in iraq or syria is certainly going

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