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to the top of the mountain where all the people are driven by isis jihad fighters. the operation has just wrapped up. we're learning new details now of what was uncovered, some crucial intelligence. jim sciutto is working the story and joining us now. what are you learning? >> wolf, a remarkable turn around in half a day, administration officials talking about a potential genocide on top of the mountain where thousands have been taking refuge. after several forces went, they left and made a couple conclusions, one, there are far fewer refugees on that mountain than believed, several thousand. there were estimates of ten to 20,000 and that makes in the judgment of the pentagon now a mass either air or ground evacuation much less likely. after the pentagon released the statement, i managed to get john kirby on the phone, the pentagon
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spokesperson to get a back story to what happened here. he said listen, they got to the mountain and found there were several thousand, as opposed to tens of thousands of refugees still there and said many of them actually will want to stay, their homes are on the mountain and for those who want to go, go to safer ground, that they are comfortable. the pentagon is comfortable with the ability of local forces, these are the kurdish militia forces who have been able to ferry some of these refugees off in recent days. they are comfortable these forces with u.s. air strikes can get the people that want to get off the mountain safely. and i'm told over the last several days, they have been able to get off about 1,000 per nig night, so a fast clip there and this takes away something we've been talking about, wolf, you and i less than an hour ago, the possibility of a mass evacuation, largely takes that off the table for now. >> that's a dramatic development. what is the administration, jim, saying about humanitarian air drops to the folks who are still
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there? should we expect to see a lot more of those? >> that will continue. another judgment of the assessment teams is that the refugees are getting that food, that water, these air drops are working and that as a result of that, they are not in as dire straights as they thought. they are not starving, they are not dying of thirst anymore, so in audition to the evacuations that have taken place by kurdish forces, it's the judgment of the team on the ground these humanitarian air drops are working, as well. >> where does the u.s. mission go from here, jim? >> it's a question. first of all, a big turn. the idea of an imminent mass evacuation of the yezidis off the table. you have iraqi christians and other minority groups. if they find themselves in a similar predicament, what does the u.s. do?
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does it mount air strikes? work in congestion with kurdish forces and the longer term question we talked a lot about, the challenge of actually pushing back isis as opposed to stopping advance. so far kurdish forces have been able to stop advance of isis on cities like erbil but now that you have a new iraqi government, secretary of state john kerry saying they will offer this new iraqi government more american help, does that help include air strikes to help them push back the isis forces down the line? still an open question. >> jim sciutto, thanks very much for that report. let's get some more now on this situation on the ground off the mountain, which included isis boasting of kidnapping more than 100 yezidi woman and children. ivan, the u.n. declared the highest level of emergency for this humanitarian crisis. what resources will be needed to rescue these people and a lot of
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other people who are off that mountain right now? >> well, when it comes to people who have been reportedly kidnapp kidnapped, talking to the refugees that fled family after family, many describe the capture of large numbers of civilians as they were trying to flee the isis advance saying that hundreds of people were grabbed. we've spoken to people who have communicated with loved ones who are being held at some kind of a prison outside the isis controlled city of mosul. i don't know how the united nations can help with that. helping people on the ground, some of the hundreds and thousands that fled, they do need help. there are no camps set up for these people. some of the tens of thousands who have settled in this city after fleeing sinjar mountain and the town of sinjar, when they managed to escape, they show up and start to camp on
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road sides. they are surviving, eating and drinking based on the generosity of their kurdish neighbors here, who we see coming forward helping them out, offering them a mattress or a bowl of soup. i don't know how these people are going to survive if this situation persists for weeks or months to come. these people are not going to be able to earn money in this corner of kurdish stan in iraq. >> how dangerous the journey to get down the mountain because it's not as easy as it sounds? >> not at all. we've been talking to some of the people who made the over land trip off the mountain. they described walking for 12 to 15 hours through a desert to the nearby syrian boarder. the people that made this journey are elderly. they are children. i don't know how physically some of these people could continue
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under this august heat and make that journey and what is really horrifying is that every family i talked to, every person who made that journey, described seeing people who collapsed and did not make the journey. they described putting a loved one, burying a loved one on the side of the trail out of there. if you can imagine that in this day of age, people dropping dead of dehydration, somebody leaving their child while they hike to safety. it is a terrible situation that these people have, an ordeal they had to go to. when you ask how they are physically capable of doing it, they say we are basically running for our lives. if you're in that position, you'll do it, wolf? >> ivan watson, thanks very much. whether you're talking about boots on the ground, drones and fighters overhead, rearming the curd
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kurds, refugees, hostages, that's a whole new world. let's talk to the deputy assistance for iraq and iran and he helped craft the transition from a military to a civilian mission there five years ago. brett, thanks very much for joining us. first of all, the special forces assessment team, a dozen guys just concluded there are few fewer yezidi's trapped on the mountain than previously thought. how many are we talking about? first, the numbers were in the tens of thousands. >> thank you, wolf. it's not low thousands and there is a reason. the president said when he spoke to the american people, we'll break the seeing of the mountain and we broke the siege of the mountain. in the meantime, we kept people alive with humanitarian air drops delivering tens of thousands of meals, tens of thousands of gallons of water every night. there will be another tonight. we managed to keep people alive, and on the north side of the mountain, we've conducted
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between the past five and six days, about a dozen air strikes, which have been extremely effective. so the formations there and check points and columns, they are no longer there. they have been killed and this opened up a corridor, which allowed thousands of people to escape from the reports that i've seen from the assessment team which is just back. we seen indications of that happening. we had to get eyes on the mountain and that's why the president ordered this team, u.s. military assessment team together accompanied by colleagues to go to the mountain with the firsthand look. they linked up with peshmerga forces and went north to south and discuss the the situation, determined vehicles are able from the north side to get onto the mountain and get off. the siege is broken but we'll remain vigilant. ivan says this remains a major catastrophe. the people getting off the
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mountain are now moving to safety, but there are tens of thousands of them. we had an outpouring to help those people and we'll work to make sure that they have the help they need. >> so what you're saying is those u.s. air strikes destroyed the isis or isil positions at the both testimony of the mountain on the north side of that mountain, opening up this corridor for people to evacuate? >> the air strikes, wolf, have been extremely, extremely effective on the north side of the mountain, yes. >> what about the other sides of the mountain? are isis fighters still surrounding the other parts of the area below that mountain? >> the issue was to break the siege of the mountain and those threatening that population remain targets for our military forces. >> so how much longer do you think it will take to remove everyone who wants to leave that mountain? how much more of that operation will there be? >> well, as i understand it, as i'm told from the initial assessment reports that have
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come in from this team that went to the mountain and spent 24 hours there and just returned to safety about two hours ago, they are in erbil now, from the initial reports, it will take another couple days to get down to the level of the people who want to leave to get them out. we evacuated tonight with this team a number of people who were sick and had to get out immediately. we now took those people to safety. they are getting treatment. so this has been a very successful operation, the siege of the mountain has been broken but we'll remain vigilant both on the military side, i want to stress these people need international help, they need the entire international community to help get the support they need. we'll establish with our international partners camps, humanitarian subsistence, mobile hospitals where necessary. this is an on going effort, wolf. fortunately, the major military operation that we thought we might have to do, as of a couple
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days ago, we'll not have to do because the air strikes were very successful and the people now who are on the mountain, there are far fewer numbers than we feared. >> one final question, those 100 women and children kidnapped by these isis forces, the men were slaughtered apparently. what do we know about them? >> well, wolf, it remains a very tragic situation and should focus the attention on isis and what isis is. it's a terrorist army. they are genocidal killers and this is what they do when they take territory. it's a tragic situation. we are very heroic personnel and military personnel in erbil and the joint operations center in baghdad are working this every day. we're in touch with people. we're trying to get the best handle on the situation that we can. this will remain a long-term effort as the president said and we'll do everything we possibly can but most importantly right
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now, we're relieved the siege of the mountain is broken. it remains a difficult journey as ivan said and once we make sure they have a place to go, place to eat, and a place to again prepare for the next phase of their lives. we want to keep these people alive. we've been keeping them alive for the past week and we'll make sure they can get to safety with the partners and region around the world. >> that's encouraging news, the breaking news we're getting from the deputy assistant secretary of state. thanks for joining us. just ahead, in ferguson, missouri outside st. louis, two starkly different accounts of the fatal shooting of 18-year-old michael brown, one from police, the other from witnesses coming up you'll hear from both sides. fact. every time you take advil you're taking the medicine doctors recommend most for joint pain.
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in missouri sown down is about an hour away. police are in position with dogs and armored vehicles. they are bracing for another possible night of unrest. you can see behind the people, sit down strike underway at the moment, protesters blocking the street. it's been four days since michael brown, an unarmed teenager was shot dead by a police officer in broad daylight, four days and the officer's name is not released. ferguson is a town without rage and allegations of a coverup.
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today the school district cancelled classes until monday to allow quote the situation to stabilize. authorities say michael brown, 18 years old days away from starting college assaulted a weapon. witnesses accounts are starkly different. dorian johnson was feet away and said the officer was the aggressor. last night i talked to him and his attorney. >> when he fired his weapon, i moved seconds before he pulled the trigger. i saw the fire come out the barrel, and i instantly knew that it was a gun. i looked at my friend big mike and saw he was struck in the chest or upper region because i saw blood splatter down his side, his right area and at that time we both took off running. i was able to hide myself behind the first vehicle that was up on the scene and the officer then got out his car, my friend big mike was still running. he ran past me and saw me in plain sight. he said to me verbatim that he
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said, keep running, bro, and he kept running and almost in an instant, my body start rising and i see the officer proceeding after my friend big mike with his gun drawn and fired a second shot and that struck my friend big mike and at that time he turned around with his hands up, beginning to tell the officer that he was unarmed and to tell him to stop shooting but at that time the officer was firing several more shots into my friend and he hit the ground and died. >> earlier i spoke with thomas jackson, the chief of police in ferguson. chief jackson, i know the investigation is on going, but do you believe you have a clear understanding between the officer and michael brown and if you do, help us appreciate what it is. walk us through it. >> actually, wolf, i don't have a clear understanding. there are so many witnesses that are coming forward and we're trying to get them to come in and be interviewed, so that we
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can actually get that clear picture, and that's really what is holding things up is the witness testimony. so once we get everybody's statement, everybody's angel, what they saw and what they heard, then we'll have a clear picture, because what i don't want to do is say something that i don't know for sure. we only want to say what we know. so when we know it, certainly it will be available. >> which makes sense, chief. i know you say the officer involved was taken to the hospital for treatment of bruises, some injuries to his face after the shooting. will you make photos of that evidence of his injuries public? is that a normal situation? >> no, no, not right away. that's all going to be part of the evidence and of the package presented to the prosecuting attorney. everything that st. louis county homicide puts together, they will give the prosecuting attorney and he'll make his determination based on the
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totality of the evidence. >> can you explain why you haven't released the officer's name yet? i know it's been said there are concerns for his safety but there are officers involved in shootings all the time in the country where the police officer's names are made public. >> i understand that and i'm confident that we'll do that, but there is a very serious safety concern because of this social media aspect of the threats and some of the phone in threats. now, the prosecuting attorney's office, as they stated last night at a town hall meeting we had. he stated his office policy to not release a name until someone is formally charged. i'm sure there is somewhere in the middle there is a happy medium where we can -- we can provide the information that the press and public is entitled to and still make sure we're acting in a safe manner. >> i interviewed a young man
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named dorian johnson last night. he was with michael brown when he was shot and killed. he said there was no struggle. he said the officer was the aggressor and grabbed michael brown by the throat, shot him several times as he had his hands up in surrenders. i don't know if you've heard about the interview and this eyewitness' account, but what do you say about that? >> i don't know. he was, i think he went into the prosecuting -- or to the homicide office and was interviewed yesterday. i don't know what his witness statement is. i'm sorry i didn't see it on your show. but that's -- his statement is, you know, going to be put together with all the other witnesses' statements. what we want is the truth of what happened. that's all we want. >> as of last night, he told me they had, his lawyer said basically they asked for interview. it hadn't happened yesterday.
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maybe it happened today. we'll find out. he did tell me the officer in question is a caucasian male. can you confirm that? >> no, i can't. >> the reason being? >> well, just, we're not going to release any information about him personally, you know, until we've determined that it's safe and that the prosecuting attorney determines it's okay to do. >> because, you know, there is a lot of speculation out there, criticism that maybe there is a race issue within your police department since the town is predominantly african american, about 65%, they say the police force only three african american officers out of 53. so i want to give you a chance to respond to that criticism. i'm sure you've heard it. >> i've heard it, wolf, and i have to tell you, since i got here, increasing the diversity of the police department is one of my top priorities. i promoted the first two african american supervisors in the
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history of the department and we've been recruiting african americans. we tend to lose people sometimes if they are able to find a higher paying position, so because of the retention problem, what we're trying to do and what we've tried to do over the last few years is to increase the quality of life in the police department so people want to stay here. we're going to redouble efforts to increase the diversity in the police department. it's always been a goal of mine and it will continue to be and we're going to work really hard at that. >> chief jackson, thanks very much. >> pleasure. again, with more protests now underway on the streets of ferguson, federal officials launched the civil rights investigation into the shooting, the fbi is also on the case. joining us now, the legal team, former federal prosecutor sunny hostin and mark geragos. mr. omer defended george zimmerman. what do you make of the fact the police chief in ferguson says he
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still doesn't have a clear idea of what happened? >> i think they relinquished the investigation to the st. louis county homicide unit. in all fairness, he shouldn't know what is really going on. i think that's smart on the part of the ferguson police department because i think it's very difficult and there is always this feeling things are not being done appropriately when you have officers investigating their own. so perhaps, wolf, that is why he really doesn't know much about what is going on. i suspect, though, from what you can gleam from what he's saying is that the homicide unit is investigating, that the prosecutors office is also looking at it, waiting for the investigators to give them what they have, and i think this is sort of following the path that these cases generally do follow. it's only been four days, and i know people are saying that's a really long time, but it is young in an investigation. >> mark geragos, is it fair to
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fault the police chief for wanting to let this investigation finish before he draws conclusions in public? >> i would love for you and cnn to play the first statements and depose it but what he just said. the first statements he went out there and gave this whole explanation, basically portraying the young man killed as the aggressor and reaching in and grabbing for the gun and everything else, subsequently he's walked that back. in fact, i was going to say his statement today to you, wolf, four days later, should have been his statement on day one. the fact that they haven't released the name of the officer because of the officer on social media is laughable. whenever they have a suspicion somebody is remotely connected to a crime and it's not a murder, we'll identify that
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person as a person of interest and they wonder why the community is reacting violently. of course this community is reacting the way they are because this anything but a transparent investigation. in fact, what you're seeing here, frankly, is what goes on around the country all the time where officers make these stories where somebody grabbed for my weapon or attacked me as he's sitting in the car and these ludicrous ideas and then expect that or hope that nobody will have video and it becomes the officer's word versus either the dead person that can't speak or somebody else who is a civilian who they are not going to believe. i think he came around four days later to the right statement but too little too late. >> the attorney for trayvon martin's family, ben crump is representing michael brown's family. in both cases an unarmed black man shot dead. what similarities do you see? >> there are a lot. we look at the way the zimmerman
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case was handled. this is a young investigation. we learned a lot of lessons from the zimmerman case that they do have to be transparent and do it quickly, but they still have to do it completely. i have to disagree with mark car goes a bit by suggesting this is not transparent. it is not appropriate for law enforcement to let out every bit of information as they gleam it. we know that the federal agencies looking at the case in st. louis county have the officer's name, his background, they have his disciplinary his and i medical records. the work is being done but we all know in the system that what you don't do is let out information before it is crystallized so that we know. because you let out one bit of information in an investigation now, it will impact and affect another witnesses' testimony. >> mark, if i could just jump in then why was the chief making all of those statements that were clearly coming from the
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officer the first day and why in fact, is -- are they keeping his name? how is the name going to compromise the investigation? is the first amendment about? >> answer to one, he shouldn't have come out without snowing it a -- knowing it. he covered his cop and shouldn't have done that. you're right. as of number two, my opinion is that having the officer's information or identification held private now is only because of the enormous threats to this officer. the whole reason for the civil unrest happening now is because this officer is alleged to have shot somebody without reason. if it was to infect the investigation, then i would say we need to disclose it. the only reason that anytime needs to be disclosed to focus their anger -- >> no -- >> mark, wait a second -- >> one at a time.
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[ overlapping speakers ] >> i agree with mark car gogacgi know, you're shocked, mark, i think it's very unusual the officer's name is being kept from the media, kept from the public. that's generally public information that anyone can have when you have an officer-related shooting and the excuse somehow because of some social media threat they are not providing that information is very odd. >> sunny, could i ask you one thing -- >> let's be -- >> mark, wait, one question, if -- why wouldn't -- you hear police all the time say if the public has any information about this individual, please phone in. cnn has the hunt where they use the media in order to get information on people. what if this officer has got a history of doing the this with other youths? if he has a history of pulling people over and hassling them. >> it is odd. >> mark, i think on day four of an investigation, maintaining
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that identification as private for now is okay. if we're ten days into it, 12 days into it, i might agree. you can't deny the fact the focus of anger is on that officer and if he's disclosed his information would be found out that much quicker and you cannot deny that he's going to be at risk. >> mark, hold on, hold on -- >> mark, you and i represent guys who they identify who have the entire nation against them. >> we unfortunately have to leave it there. we'll this conversation in the days to come. sunny, mark, mark, thanks very, very much. solid discussion. coming up, robin williams' trails and triumphtriumphs. we're looking at his struggle with depression and addiction and his joy as a father and actor. ♪ [ male announcer ] over time, you've come to realize... [ starter ] ready! [ starting gun goes off ] [ male announcer ] it's less of a race... yeah!
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>> robin williams tragic suicides came after treatment for both addiction and depression. cocaine he once told "people magazine" was a place for him to hide.
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joining me is dr. drew pinsky. dr. drew, there is reportedly a rise in calls to the national suicide prevention lifeline since robin williams' death. i read some saying this could be the result of that contagious effect. does it make sense to you? >> it makes sense, it means a copy cat. basically people copy cat the behavior and whether it's violence or suicide, these things tend to get copy catted. i think there is a different phenomenon here. i don't think this is contagious. robin williams left us with an extraordinary gift. i don't mean to diminish the tragedy but i've seen people stepping forward, someone on my program that never spoke about it before, spoke spontaneously
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about it. some said i have symptoms like that, too, should i be careful? i think people are contemplating they may need help and are reaching out. i think he's given us permission, robin has given us permission to destigmatize this problem and deal with it head on and to deal with it like any other medical problem. yes, i'm sure there is some contagion, there always is, but i've seen an extraordinary phenomenon with people talking about mood disturbances and willing to come forward and talk about the consequences of their experience. >> that's significant, i must say. in retrospect, he did go to rehab several times and had an awareness of the problems. so how much mental health treatment goes along with substance abuse treatment or is there something that needs to be dealt with separately. it looked like he was trying to deal with his problems. >> he did get the separate care both his psychiatric problem and
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his addiction problem. the fomood disturbance was treated. one issue is in spite of the best efforts, any medical problem, when it's potentially fatal could still end up with a fatality, whether you're talking about heart disease or cancer or addiction. i spoke to dr. jeffrey lieberman. he said robin williams was a marked man, he had tour extreme risk factors, a history of depression, he had addiction and a terribly complex relationship and long periods of sobriety with a he hand which makes people depressed. he had cardiac surgery and heart disease. people don't often think but it typically can worsen or cause depression. finally, his middle age
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caucasian white male is the category most likely to complete a suicide. he had four risk factors and some sort of rapid decline. we should stop thinking of psychology to what happened to poor robin. i think something medically happened. something caused a sudden, severe symptomtology. when somebody hangs themselves, it's an altered state, they just have to get out now. i'm suspicious the autopsy may inform us what happened, not the psychology what was going on. >> dr. drew, thanks so much. >> you bet, wolf. williams' legacy is not only as a comedian and actor but also as a father. poppy harlow has a look back. >> once i have a child, you know, once you have a kid you got to try and at least pay attention. >> reporter: robin williams in 2007 telling larry king it's his children to drive him to stay pluged into the world around him.
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williams left behind three children, zackery 31, zelda 25 and cody 22. >> they have always been there to be my reality check. >> reporter: williams was married three times, first to valerie, zackery's mother and then in 1989, then he married the family's nanny and final hi, his third marriage to susan snider who he married in 2011. williams kept much of his personal life personal, although he worked with middle child zelda in the 2004 film "house of deed". >> can i finish you soda? >> reporter: have as many as you want. >> then this performance promoting the "legend of zelda." father and daughter explain how zelda got her name. >> we were playing the game legend of zelda at the time. >> i think both my parents really liked the name so it stuck. >> you're lucky you're not named
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mario or luigi. >> reporter: four months ago williams posted this birthday message to zack, a proud father indeed and in an instagram post two weeks ago, williams marked zelda's birthday, the picture showing father and daughter from a time when zelda was just a child. with it williams wrote quarter of a century old today but always my baby girl. happy birthday at zelda williams, love you. that would be his final post. zelda williams saying while i'll never ever understand how he could be loved so deeply and not find it in his heart to stay, there is minor comfort in knowing our grief and loss in some small way is shared with millions. from little brother cody, the world will never be the same without him. i will miss him and take him with me everywhere i go for the rest of my life. from his eldest child zack, i
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lost my father and a best friend and the world got a little grayer. seek to bring joy to the world as he sought. williams' wife saying i am utterly heart broken. as he is remembered, it is our hope the focus will not be on robin's death but the countless moments of joy and laughter he gave to millions. williams' love he gave was clear throughout. in a 2009 cnn interview, williams spoke about his children and legacy, a legacy he hoped would stretch behind the indelible mark he left on all of us. >> give you a chance at your legacy, and they are the thing that carries on beyond you. you get to see the joy you have. that's ageless, that's the good part. even though he's tragically gone, you haven't seen your last robin williams movie. we got more on that. that's coming up, next. people find out state farm does car loans as well as they do insurance, our bank is through.
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robin williams' legacy will live forever on film and not just the ones you've seen. williams act in several movies
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that will come out in the future. ted rollins reports. >> reporter: robin williams may be gone but movie fans have not seen the last of hymn. >> why are there shotgun pelts in my chicken? dad? >> because it's squirrel. >> reporter: marry friggin christmas, a father spending awkward holiday time with his son is due out in november, one of four yet to be released films starring the late oscar winner. >> good to see you, lad. >> reporter: in december, williams will be back in "night at the museum" secret of the tomb and "boulevard" and a growing list of actors like heath ledger and phillip seymou
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hoffm hoffman. >> there is a real interest among fans to see him on screen one last time. i think that it could also hurt these movies. there is a segment of the audience that may feel sad but the prospect of going to see a movie of someone who recently died. >> since his death gossip sites have speculated about williams' financial situation. his 640 acre napa valley ranch has been on the market since april but people close to williams tell cnn any suggest he had financial trouble is completely unfounded. in audition to his comedy and television work, robin williams appeared in nearly 50 movies that according to mojo.com grossed more than $5 billion. sadly, his next ones will be his last. wolf, today, people around robin williams want to make it clear he did not have financial issues. his publicist sent us a
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statement that's clear and short, it says robin had absolutely no financial issues, period. wolf. >> thanks very much. ted rollins reporting. >> remembering lauren bacall, the legendary actress and one half of hollywood's most ill luring couples. lauren bacall and the iconic voice, that is next. llion peopl. [ susan ] my promotion allowed me to start investing for my retirement. transamerica made it easy. [ female announcer ] everyone has a moment when tomorrow becomes real. transamerica. transform tomorrow. transamerica. moderate to severe is tough, but i've managed. i got to be pretty good at managing my symptoms, except that managing my symptoms was all i was doing. when i finally told my doctor, he said my crohn's was not under control. he said humira is for adults like me
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. one of the most distinctive voices of hollywood has fallen silent. lauren bacall died at 89. a look back at her life. >> you know how to whistle, don't you, steve. put your lips together and blow. >> did you see yourself is the sexual? >> no. >> you were a little jewish girl from new york? >> i don't see myself. i don't understand that kind -- i don't think that way. i really do have not put myself in a category. god knows enough other people put us all in categories and i hate that. i was playing a game. you know, it's play acting,
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anyway, when you're a kid and starting and i was very young, and i just -- i don't think of myself as anything i would like to be thought of as an actress. that's all i wanted to be thought of, was a good one. >> next thing you got to remember, a gentleman you meet on the cold cuts isn't as attractive as you meet in the meat department. >> i try not to look too closely actually because it doesn't interest me to go back into the past. i really don't live in the past at all, and i just think that i've had a very lucky life in many ways and a hard life and very up and down life. >> you have no intention of not working? >> you are correct. >> why? >> i love to work. look, i live alone. >> in new york. >> in new york. i have three grown children who have their own lives. i have got to have a life of my own. i cannot depend on my children.
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i'm not your typical one. i do not baby sit. that's not -- >> you're not doing those? >> i don't do those. >> you don't take the little ones home? >> please, i've done that with my own three kids. >> so forget it. >> i was not put on earth for that. >> are you a good mother-in-law? >> i don't know. i hope so. it's not a profession. >> do you interfere? >> i interfere sometimes because i have opinions. >> so you want to keep working? >> i have to keep working because i love to work and i think one must use one's self-and it keeps my brain going. it keeps me physically functions and keep in some kind of shape and it's what i train to do and i don't believe in retiring. >> it's an awful thing to do to a woman my age, leave her alone with her thoughts. i don't like legend. i don't like the category and -- to begin with, to me, a legend is something that is not on the
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earth that is dead. >> you have to be dead to be a legend. >> i think so because legends are built and evolved in the past, they are not the present and i don't like categories, either, in any event. i prefer individual, i mean, if people have respect for you or admire your work or whatever, you know, it's like they say this one is the second garbo, that one is the second bogart. there are no seconds. you are what you are. >> how about the term living legend? >> i don't like legend, current. >> no matter what. >> i don't like legends. i don't know what it mean the. >> what part of your life, of a star's life is my business? >> i think my work is your business, and i think perhaps what i do in public, but nothing that i do in pry sivate is your business. >> nothing? >> nothing. >> we have no protection in this
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country when it comes to invasion of privacy and i think that is a horror. >> and you are an angel. >> and you're almost one. [ laughter ] >> amazing woman. we'll be right back with another live hour after "360" and the latest from iraq. that the next. his doubleheader day at the park starts with back pain... and a choice. 'that the' next. s next. peanuts! peanuts! crowd cheers!
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-- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com israeli air strikes and palestinian rocket fire as they try to make progress toward a long-term peace deal and details of a risky american operation inside iraq. special forces home safe now after 24 hours on top of that mountain where all those people have been driven by isis fighters. the mission has just wrapped up just about three hours or so ago. the team uncovered some crucial intelligence about how many people are still on the mountain, help to evacuate a number of them, as well. jim sciutto is working the story and joins us with more. the pentagon saying the mission is far less likely than previously thought. what are we learning tonight? >> that's because what that team of special forces found when they went to the top of the