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another night of protest in missouri. police and protesters clash again in the u.s. town of ferguson, just hours ahead of a

curfew. >> all right. >> the local police press conference is set to get under way in ferguson. we are going to wait until they walk up to the microphone because the local community has big questions to be answered now. that's ed lavandera preparing to report to us live and the other reporters getting ready. joined by natalie allen at cnn center. big welcome to those of you watching in the u.s. and around the world. natalie, the local officials have some big questions to answer now. the peaceful demonstrations took place over the weekend. the curfew didn't begin until an hour ago. yet hours before the curfew, the police were seen, you can see footage here, firing tear gas. they're in riot gear, and it looks like police or military hardware as they approached the demonstrators, they also fired rubber bullets. one witnessed a person hit by a rubber bullet talked to us on cnn a short time ago. right now, our correspondents

are all over ferguson and reporting that the police since this scene took place have essentially cleared out this intersection and this area, which is a key location, not too far from where 18-year-old michael brown, an unarmed black teen, was shot to death more than a week ago now. local residents have been protesting that heavy handed police response. the investigation continues. there are lingering questions as to why police felt the need to use such force, shooting him six times. now there are newer questions that since ron jon son has come into temper the situation, seemed to have flared up. residents, emotions there are on edge, whether the police or residents. >> absolutely. and yes, as we heard from our guest, the inconsistency as he put it of the police reaction might be continuing to fuel the volatility on the street. >> exactly. >> one night they're standing back, and tonight it looks like

kind of a war zone. >> a lot have described it that way. >> many families out protesting as you reported went to mcdonald's and had milk to flush out the tear gas from their eyes. we want to go to our correspondents that are there. first up this hour, our correspondent, ed lavandera, waiting for the news conference. hopefully they will have answers and comments to help diffuse the terrible feelings on the streets with shootings and the tough response by the police forces. >> reporter: hi n, we are told e press conference will be starting in 10 or 15 minutes. we are at the command point for the different law enforcement agencies working the scene in the town of ferguson. this is actually not too far from the flashpoint and where

the very beginning of the problems occurred tonight as the protesters and demonstrators were working their way down the main drag of the road where we have been seeing the protests and demonstrations over the last few days. it was at that point that's were starting to approach this area where we're at that authorities on the ground started telling the crowd to back up. that's when things started to turn very tense tonight. i'm going to bring in my colleague, cnn producer, steve kastenbaum, caught in the middle of this. we were watching video of the scene there. >> i want to show you, we have these are some of the cannisters that were fired not only at the crowd but landed at our feet and on our vehicle while this was going on. on the main drag through ferguson. this is a flash bang grenade that went off as well. they used a lot of these, dozens and dozens of these.

>> we walked in the road. >> they were all over the place. >> let's take people back to the beginning. we were watching video that we have brought in of what appears to be the very beginning of where things turned tense tonight. we saw a crowd kind of approaching, actually down back over there in that corner. you can hear authorities immediately disperse from the area and cannisters started flying. then it started getting pushed back down the road where you were. tell us from what you saw. >> we know because we watched this parade as it began that there were many families in there with young children, some even in strollers as they were making their way up here. we heard from people as they came back. we saw families coming back as well, that they were there as the cannisters were being fired at them. >> this is a dangerous element mixed in with people that were trying to protest and

demonstrate. >> correct. >> peacefully the way they called on and asked people to do for several days. >> right. the majority of people on the avenue were peacefully protesting. there were some individuals as there have been every night here who were, you know, here for other reasons. but nonetheless, as the crowd was getting pushed back towards where we were, it turned chaotic very quickly. the riot police and their armored vehicles were lined up by the ferguson liquor mart and were saying the same things on the loud speakers, disperse immediately. failure to disperse is risking arrest. but didn't give them a lot of time to disperse. the cannisters started flying every direction, the smoke cannisters, and this is tear gas. >> at some point there you heard what seems to be one of the first shots fired. >> yeah.

a little later in the chain of events is when we heard shots. the standoff between the riot police and the demonstrators holding their ground was slowly being pushed back up the avenue. and at one point we were all close to the intersection where we had been broadcasting from for days, and the unmistakable sound of gunshots rang out. everybody hit the ground. our camera men hit the ground and the police hit the ground, some took cover behind their vehicles. moments later, a captain from st. charles police told us shots were fired in the direction of police. >> here you have the situation getting extremely tense. you have families out there with kids. did you see families and people that are demonstrating there in the good way, did you see people trying to get out of the situation as quickly as possible? >> that was very early on. the people who were standing their ground from our vantage

point, again, some of it was obscured by smoke, and we were also feeling effects of the tear gas which burns in your eyes and throat, but from what we could see, the families and people who were in the protest were trying to get away. but sort of no man's land developed between the police and some demonstrators who were holding their ground. >> and also to paint the picture here, it is one road going north and south. it is not easy to get out of that situation, there's only a couple roads that feed into that area, if you get cordoned off, blocked off, hard to escape one of those roads. everything else is lined by stores and becomes a chaotic situation. >> there aren't a lot of places to run, smoke was filling the street, tear gas was filling the street. >> a place you might want to run to isn't necessarily a place you need to run to. we continued to hear the reports

of police officers chasing reports of gunfire. that's still i think a little chaotic. we don't understand whether or not shots were fired directly. some agencies are saying shots were fired directly at them. >> and we should point out that throughout the week we would occasionally hear a few bursts of gunshot punk waiting the night. people had come to the demonstrations clearly armed. there was one point we saw muzzle fire tonight. our producer, chuck condor was with another team on ferguson on west floor son, heard the unmistakable gunshots and saw muzzle flashes in a parking lot. there were no police around at that point. we don't know what precipated that. >> one of the last situations we were seeing a short while ago, we were told all news and media

needed to be cleared from the main part of the road and come to this location where we are now. one of the last locations we were looking at, two s.w.a.t. vehicles and two dozen officers with riot and protective glass and that sort of thing surrounding like a group of like 15, 20 people, who seemed to be on their front lawns and kind of taunting. >> they came out. >> taunting the officers? >> they may have been residents of those buildings, so what happened is as the demonstrators backed away from the advancing police, some of them had run into the side streets and scattered. you and i witnessed as the s.w.a.t. team sort of employed different tactics, they went in behind vehicles, down side streets, we could hear the announcements. >> they were going back and forth. >> they were searching for people. one group of people were on their lawn.

you had a better vantage point than i did. >> we saw at that point there was a number of people standing with their hands up, become part of the demonstrations here, people throw their hands up, but there was a great deal of talking back and forth, the police line stood there. hard to say. we don't know how that situation ended. we were told to leave for our own safety at that point, and i'm not exactly sure at this point how all of that ended, natalie. but it was definitely i think the bigger picture tonight is that several hours before all of this, there were about 3,000 people who had attended a unity rally. civil rights people wanted those images to be what was broadcast around the world and tonight once again we are seeing these images which frustrates many people. >> i wonder if you could ask steve, we were on last night, first night of the curfew

several hours. it seems markedly different there tonight with the police tactics and their equipment than it was last night, and just trying to make sense of what has changed in 24 hours. >> good point. last night we were talking about the police tactics. >> the conference is going to start. get out of the way. >> okay, we are listening now to the police briefing there in ferguson, missouri. as soon as that audio connects in, we're going to bring it live. >> getting ready to start here. we're going to give you a brief summary. the event is still on-going, still have activities and planning going on. it will be quick, we will give you information. questions. but we want to give you summary of what's taken place today. captain johnson will be doing

the briefing for you. >> good morning. i want to start off by thanking the men and women of the highway patrol, st. louis county, city, and municipal police departments, they did a fine job tonight protecting the citizens of ferguson. tonight a sunday that started with prayers and messages of unity, peace and justice took a very different turn after dark. molotov cocktails were thrown. there were shootings, looting,

vandalism, and other acts of violence that clearly appear not to have been spontaneous but premeditated criminal acts designed to damage property, hurt people, and provoke a response. the it was disobedience, preplanned aggression. when govern nixon assigned me of the task to restore order to ferguson, the basic thing was to protect the ability to make voices heard while keeping this community safe. we needed to protect the good people of ferguson, their businesses, and their property. that's why earlier tonight we were walking with and listening to peaceful protesters voicing their frustration in a way that

doesn't put others in personal danger. that's also why when we saw violent acts, including shootings and throwing of molotov cocktails and destruction of businesses, we had to act to protect lives and property. the situation first started to deteriorate with a shooting of a civilian on west floor son and ferguson avenue at approximately 8:25 p.m. we quickly responded with additional officers to reach the victim and got them to a safe position. that was followed by shots being fired on officers, a number of molotov cocktails being heralded, and then the looting or vandalism of businesses that included a domino's pizza, o'reilly's auto parts, a family

dollar store, and a self storage business. all were on west florison. these are some of the shootings tonight in addition to the shooting at 8:25 p.m. one minute later, 8:26, shorts were fired to the north on canfield. at 8:27, there was report of a subject down. at 8:28, there was report of eight people with guns. tactical teams were dispatched. at 8:56, hundreds of protesters marched toward the northeast shopping center where we stand at this moment. the site of this command post. as the crowd approached the shopping center, multiple molotov cocktails were thrown at police. at that time, police deployed tear gas and attempted to disburse the crowd to stop the

violent action. at that time we called in additional support from area police agencies. at 9:15, there was call for a large crowd gathering at the mcdonald's on west florison. at 9:20, it was reported the mcdonald's was being overrun and employees had locked themselves in a storage room. there were multiple additional reports of molotov cocktails being thrown. police were shot at. makeshift barricades were set up to block police. bottles and rockets were thrown at police. based on these conditions, i had no alternative but to elevate the level of our response. for those who would claim that the curfew is what led to tonight's violence, i will remind you this incident began

before 8:30. three and a half hours before the curfew was to have started last night. tonight by teleconference, the chief from the st. louis county police department, chief sam dodson of the st. louis city police department, and i, have been in discussion with governor jay nixon and the governor who were at the highway patrol headquarters in jefferson city. we are planning additional steps to quiet the violence. we are all determined to restore peace and safety to the people of ferguson and i believe the continued resolve of the good people of this community will ultimately triumph over the few people bent on violence and destruction. i have time for a few questions before i return to operational

planning. [ inaudible ] >> we had at least three people, we had a couple of shooting victims, two or three people have been injured. >> were they random shootings? >> those shootings we were responding to those shootings, they occurred in the field, had nothing to do with law enforcement. it was between people that were actually out on the scene there. [ inaudible ] >> there were people out. go ahead. there were no officers injured. >> you mentioned additional steps. tell us what additional steps? >> we are going to go back and do operational planning to determine what that will be. >> did you consider pulling the national guard in? >> no, at this point we are taking additional steps and we will evaluate our resources. >> how sure are you that this is organized --

>> that there were families with little children amongst protesters that were approaching at the time that tear gas was fired on the crowd? >> at this time when we were approached by the crowd, the bottles were thrown and we had subjects coming over the hill. >> one more question, then we have to go. >> can you tell us why you feel it is organized? >> failure to disperse. >> how many arrests? >> that's all we've got. thanks. >> captain ron jon son, newly oi pointed head of security, he started by saying officers did a fine job and went on to explain exactly what prompted a more robust police response and he referenced that a number of people had been shot, not by the police but in other areas that some businesses at this intersection had been looted and that molotov cocktails had been thrown apparently from the

demonstrating crowd toward police. >> that's new information that we haven't had in the past couple of hours because from this vantage point we've just seen the tear gas and the families and just these multiple forces and didn't understand the context. according to captain johnson, as you pointed out, he is happy with police response. and says also as you all heard, they felt this was a preplanned, organized violence that happened. the problem is it seemed to happen in the mix of peaceful protesters. we heard earlier from our guest that somehow perhaps they need to figure out how to separate if you will the good element from the bad. i don't know how you do that. >> saw images of one man on the ground by police. apparently a number of people were arrested, apparently for

failing to disperse. the captain also said this was about protecting residents and protecting businesses and property. i wonder what local residents think, they have been criticized for the heavy response. let's go to ed lavandera who was watching that as he was standing there. ed, what did you make of what captain johnson said? how is his statement likely to be received there in the morning? >> reporter: well, you know, it's interesting. clearly captain johnson anticipating what perhaps some of the criticism will be of the police force and the police tactics here tonight, but clearly captain johnson making the point that the police force on the street tonight simply had no choice and that they had to, quote, elevate their tactics and their response to the situation, given how quickly it was deteriorating. captain johnson is fully aware and has heard directly for the last three or four days from the

people who have been very angry about the way the police initially responded earlier last week, and captain johnson who has gone to great lengths in the last few days to calm people and let people know that tactics would be different, that optics if you wilf how police tactics worked. but now tonight he is saying they were left with no option, that they had to elevate the intensity of their response, given that these protesters and these bad actors within the demonstrations were causing serious problems. he talked about the vandalism, the molotov cocktails that were being thrown at the police forces, and all of that as we have been pointing out throughout the night, all of that kind of taking place within people who were trying to demonstrate peacefully and in an orderly way, if you will, in a civilly disobedient way, if you

will. and obviously captain johnson anticipates that tomorrow there will probably be, you know, some frustration with the way things looked again tonight on the main street here, one of the main streets in ferguson. but obviously captain johnson making the point that they basically had no choice. errol. >> moments after captain johnson updated the media on what took place there tonight, and one other item, schools are closed monday because of what happened overnight. ed, we will connect with you later. thanks very much. >> we also have cnn's don lemon in ferguson. he has been out there for some time and has witnessed a lot of the police tactics. don, what do you make of what captain johnson has announced that they were responding to molotov cocktails, shootings, looting, all preplanned. did you witness or see any of that? >> reporter: i did not witness any of that, but i did witness a

gunshot and some of my crew members saw the flash from the gun right near where we are. but i have to say i have been speaking to captain i don't know son since the first day he took over, first moments he took over. tonight he sounded very frustrated, sounded very tire. and he sounds worn and weary. he tried everything to allow people to demonstrate peacefully, and as ed said, civil disobedience. then some people, not all of them, this is not the majority of the protesters, but some people took it to a level that it should not have been taken to. to hear they were firing guns at civilians and firing guns at police officers and so many people were injured, it is sad and guess what, it is embarrassing for the people who have been fighting to keep this peaceful. it is embarrassing to the family of the young man that's dead and now people are taking it on their own accord to rob, steal

and possibly kill people, to loot. it is embarrassing and stupid and they shouldn't did doing it at this point. earlier there was way more presence where we are, and now it is since calmed down just a little bit. some of the units moved into the neighborhood. police are still blocking the area. they have blocked it off. the curfew is until 5:00 a.m., local time, central time in the united states. everything that i told you guys before the press conference, let's walk across the street a little bit. everything that i told you before the press conference about some of the bad actors, about gunshots being fired, some said it is not gunshots, it is fireworks, it was gunshots, let's not get it twisted. gunshots were fired and people were injured. and police had no other option. the man who is in charge of this, who is an african-american man they brought in because he has ties to the community, they thought they would be able to at least stop some of the

shenanigans of people because he could relate to them or they could relate to him and some of the people are still doing it. what they believe, they believe it is members of gangs mostly who are doing this. and that it is organized. and some of it is coming from outside the community from people who are wanting to cause trouble. but anyway, that's an ambulance, not police, john. anyway, there's an ambulance going down the street here. these guys are going to be here all night. they're working i think 12 hour shifts. this ambulance is coming through the intersection, so it is a little loud. a short time ago, we did witness some police activity. this car coming around the corner with a bunch of people in it, driving erratically, several police cars speeding behind it. no lights and sirens, just speeding behind it, people doing silly things. anyway, there you go. the guys in their tactical gear,

preparing to be here for the long haul, through the night until 5:00 a.m. at least. and there will be another crew that comes in in the morning at 5:00 a.m. when the curfew is lifted and we will be back out here then as well. >> don, it is errol at cnn center. want to talk about this sense of frustration on captain johnson's voice. if we rewind 24 hours to this morning, he was attending church services in ferguson. he was at the greater grace church. want to read something he said. he said quote, to the family of michael brown, i want you to know my heart goes out to you and that i am sorry. i wear this uniform, i am standing here to say i'm sorry. this is my neighborhood. you are my family, you are my friends, i am you. do you think part of the frustration is that he is trying to reach out, relate on a personal level, yet still there are people in the crowd who are ruining it for everyone?

>> yeah, i am not afraid to say it. it is ignorant people ruining it for everyone. it is ignorant, dumb people. it must be embarrassing for him. he took ownership of this particular task and was very proud of it. people were, the majority of people out here are not bad actors. they're people that want, legitimately want change and want their voices heard. when he arrives on the scene he is welcome openly with open arms, people hug him. it is a couple of stupid people who come out here with their guns, with a gang bangers and whatever, think it is cool to shoot people up and to, you know, f the police, it is dumb. it is ignorance. so now it is reflecting on him, the man who they brought to, you know, who comes from the neighborhood, who has dealt with police brutality, who has dealt with being a target of police.

and who has dealt with discrimination, who knows where they come from, and now they're embarrassed again. that's exactly what's happening here. not only embarrassing him, embarrassing themselves and as i said, the family of michael brown. this isn't about your dumb stupid thing that you could throw a molotov cocktail at an officer. this is about a young man that died. this is about showing the world that you want change, that you legitimately want change and that you can show people you know how to act. now people see you don't know how to act. many people say what the heck. if they're shooting up people and looting, then the police officers should be there in tactical gear. most of them are law abiding citizens and don't deserve to be terrorized. people can say that because that's what you're doing by acting like an idiot. >> don, we understand that.

at the same time, these are deep rooted issues with the police, not advocating violence. so much mistrust. >> reporter: those issues have to be dealt with. and they will be dealt with, but they should be dealt with in a manner where you don't terrorize people. there are absolutely legitimate issues, but you cannot deal with those issues. they're deflecting attention away from the legitimate issue, and that is discrimination. that is a police department people feel they're not represented by. if you're going to do those things, you overshadow good intentions with stupid actions. >> don lemon is live in ferguson, missouri. thanks very much. we will connect with you through the night if there are more developments. natalie, we watched as the police captain said the police officers did a fine job sunday night in dispersing the crowd, trying to identify the provocateurs who he said were

trying to ruin this for everybody. >> we have been pointing out church services that were held today. >> it was a positive atmosphere through sunday. >> yes. but also on this day, the autopsy report revealing that michael brown was shot six times, inflaming more response. you can see, morbid to think about, those show entry points, shot in the arm three times, also in the face, and we will talk more about that as our coverage pushes on and have analysis of the autopsy reports. >> with the curfew in ferguson, it is an hour and a half into being implemented. there are hours to go. we're going to continue cnn special coverage for you, connect with our correspondents on the ground, and speak to human rights activists about what's the best way to calm tensions and solve deep rooted issues, not just in ferguson, missouri but all over the united states.

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welcome back fo cnn special coverage. i am natalie allen. >> and errol barnett. we appreciate you staying with cnn. if you have been tuned in the past few hours, you witnessed another night of violence between police and protesters in ferguson, missouri. here is some footage from earlier where it appeared a type of chaos was filling the streets, hours before a five hour curfew took effect. we are now one and a half hours into that curfew. police officials have updated the media, saying there have been several arrests, at least two people have been shot, but they note that they were not shot by police. and it is about 1:30 in the morning, most crowds have been disbursed. the state police officer in charge of security in ferguson said some protesters acted criminally and provoked others. >> molotov cocktails were thrown.

there were shootings. looting, vandalism, other acts of violence, premeditated acts designed to damage property, hurt people, and provoke a response. the catalyst was not civil disobedience but preplanned agitation and aggression. >> the words of captain johnson a short while ago. demonstrators say the march ahead of sunday's confrontation was nonviolent. one protester says it was peaceful. >> we were walking peacefully, and they were hit in the face with smoke bombs and tear gas. we were peaceful. this is unacceptable, this is not the law. this is unacceptable. until we get justice, we will not stop! >> a lot of outrage, there were

reports that families were in this protest. >> with young children. >> trying to get away. again, the criminal elements mixing with people, trying to get answers that they deserve about what's going on in their community. we are getting some preliminary results as we mentioned a few minutes ago from a second autopsy on the shooting victim, michael brown. >> this is another element in play overnight as residents figure out this news, and it corroborates what many witnesses said, that michael brown was shot multiple times by police. this autopsy was done sunday by renowned pathologist dr. michael baden requested by the family, they didn't trust the local officials. >> the report shows michael brown was shot at least six times, two bullet wounds to brown's head. one of those wounds to the top of his head, suggesting his head was bent forward when it struck him, and caused a fatal injury.

dr. baden's report says it was likely the last bullet to hit michael brown, the other four wounds were to the right arm. there are also reports that there was no gun powder residue. >> one of the reports was that he reached for a police officer's weapon and that preceded the shooting, but no gun powder residue on him shows that he didn't fire. the autopsy shows the shots were fired from a longer distance, and a number of bullets entered and exited his body through the arm. graphic and also indicating shots to the head were the last of the six. something the family is sure to be very disturbed by. the family did request dr. baden's autopsy, they don't

trust the one by local authorities. that's what's at the center of the frustration in missouri, that police aren't on the side of the residents. u.s. attorney general says the justice department will have its own autopsy of michael brown, not standard practice in the u.s. it goes to show how much the federal government is watching all of this unfold along with the rest of us. the attorney general says this case involves extraordinary circumstances. now speaking earlier to cnn, u.s. civil rights activist rev. jesse jackson says the autopsy of michael brown could be inflaming tensions now that they know the teenager was shot six times. listen to this. >> he was shot six times, and then the head, if you see the top of the head, suggests he was bowed down, maybe already down. this is bound to escalate tension. i hope that this process is in a

way that doesn't escalate acts of defiance. so far, demonstrations have been somewhat as you know big and celebrator. this is a very provocative report. it will be taken in that way. >> there's much going on on this complex story. sunday, starting with church services to marches to peaceful demonstrations mixed in with a violent element and the autopsy being released on michael brown. let's go back to cnn's chuck condor, among our crew members there witnessing the events and reporting for us, chuck? >> reporter: good evening. things heated up pretty quickly out here this evening. there have been some problems at these protests throughout the week, but usually those happened very late at night, after a lot

of the protesters had gone home. tonight things started falling apart fairly early. just after twilight. there were shots fired inside the protest group. people stampeded, trying to get away from gunfire. it was a very ugly scene early on. then of course this confrontation between protesters and the police that occurred shortly after that. >> it is hard to understand. just that video we saw there with someone on their knees with their hands up, falling over from obviously some of the tactics used by the police officers with gas or some other tactic, then being handcuffed. so it is hard to balance and appreciate what the police are saying is happening with what we're hearing and seeing from people just protesting before

the curfew started. >> reporter: that's been part of the problem with the story from the very beginning. there seems to be a very big disconnect between how police view the incidents that are taking place in this town and the way the protesters view those incidents. and never the twain shall meet it seems. i will say at the end of the evening tonight after protesters had been sort of pushed by the police out of the regularly designated protest area, a number of people still kind of gathered at the outskirts of the protest area and loudly shouted at and were abusing police officers and letting it be known that they were not happy with their freedom being abridged with their protest march being

dissolved. but at midnight when police imposed a moratorium on everything, they told people go home and people complied. so there have been some potential confrontations between police and protesters. and actually very few of them resulting in violence. >> well, that's good. that's a good point to point out. we appreciate you, chuck, among our many correspondents and producers who are there, trying to bring us the picture. often times, they're in one spot, they see it from a vantage point, same thing happened 24 hours ago, we see things from a vantage point, then captain johnson steps to the microphone and spells out everything that we couldn't see. >> of course, the reason we have such a big team there, because how you view the events of

sunday into monday depend on where you were and what you saw. we've had people, a woman who was on air saying she was an iraq war vet, had come back, she was absolutely furious, not being able to go home and demonstrate peacefully, saying i didn't get tear gassed to iraq and i come to my streets and get tear gassed. ron johnson saying the reason they had to have more response, molotov cocktails thrown their direction, looting of stores, and a number of people shot, not by police. he said we have to step things up. >> reporting that people working at the mcdonald's that we continue to see were overrun, and locked themselves in. much to the story as violence erupts there in ferguson tonight. we will continue to bring you the news as we get it. we'll take a short break. [announcer] word is getting out.

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to those of you watching in the u.s. and around the world, welcome back. this is cnn coverage to the reaction of the shooting of michael brown. within the past hour, we were updated by police chief ron johnson, explain why they escalated response hours before the curfew was set to go into

effect. and he noted molotov cocktails being thrown from the crowd toward police, a number of shootings in the area, as well as a number of local businesses that were looted. he thanked all of the municipal police departments participating and said they have all done, quote, a fine job. he also said these incidents began three and a half hours before the curfew was set to go in place. at this moment, we have a development just into cnn that there's more force on the way to ferguson, missouri. governor nixon of the state signed an executive order, which now deploys national guard officers to ferguson. so in addition to the state patrol, in addition to ferguson police and other municipalities, the governor of the state now signing executive order to get the national guard into ferguson. schools there have been closed for monday because of sunday night's events. it is about 1:50 in the morning in ferguson, missouri now.

hopefully this is a time for everyone to calm down, to reflect. a number of people were arrested apparently for refusing to disperse. seeing some people there detained by police, but it has been quite an emotional roller coaster, both for captain johnson, the police officers and all of the residents there who are still feeling frustrated with what they say is heavy handed treatment by police toward locals. we will bring back reverend markel hutchins. he is with me at cnn center, a civil and human rights activist. you watched ron johnson, as don lemon said, sounding frustrated. sunday morning, he was attending church services, he got teared up, he said i am you, you are me, let's do this together tonight, sounding frustrated because of provocateurs. what stood out to you? >> there was distinct difference between his tone and demeanor at the news conference and the rally attended earlier today

with some of my colleagues in the civil rights community. as i listen to him, i realize the spirit of outrage, the spirit of we want to do something, we want justice, that spirit is right, but the structure is wrong. what made the civil rights protest of the 1950s and '60s so successful is the protesters were trained. we are living in an era now, quite frankly, where there is a kind of a sense of a microwaveable movement in the civil and human rights community. if the protesters were trained as they should be, they would become law enforcement's greatest allies, in terms of weeding out the provocateurs. if i were advising the community leaders there and national leaders, my colleagues in the civil rights community, i would suggest that all protests be suspended until such time that protesters, potential

protesters, can be brought together and properly trained. >> one of the things you said to me last hour is that it is difficult for police to differentiate when they look at the entire crowd. >> absolutely. >> between one or two individuals that are throwing molotov cocktails or causing problems and everybody else who is doing the right thing, the legal thing, and protesting. you suggested one thing they need to do is allow leaders, people identified as trustworthy, give them vests, allow them to be on the side of the police to keep the peace. reverend al sharpton and jesse jackson were there, is anyone sending messages to suggest such thing? >> i can't tell you that. reverend sharpton and i are close friends. >> it sounds like a great idea. simple to execute. >> there's a lot of moving parts there. i would suggest to captain

johnson that while the community has come to embrace him, love and support him and respect him, that he must not personally bear all of the weight and all of the responsibility of this hour. there are many, many community leaders, some of them great in their own right there in that community, but they must also vest and invest themselves in finding a way to give people the appropriate avenue to express frustration and anger, and also recognizing you can't do so and bring more harm to the situation than good. errol, one thing that came to my mind as i watched the news conference is this crisis is worthy of a structured national conversation initiated by the president of the united states. it's a local tragedy, but it's become an international spectacle, and a national crisis, and the remnants and

effects are being felt all over the country and the white house should step up and accurately and adequately address this crisis. >> it is a wait and see situation with barack obama, the u.s. president coming back from vacation, see what he decides to do, if anything, on monday. schools are cancelled in the community, news that the governor is sending the national guard, to use a war term, more boots on the ground here. >> yes. >> is this the right direction things need to move in? tomorrow, no kids are going to be in school. the national guard is on the way. but is ron johnson shouldering too much of this? >> absolutely. >> it is all on his shoulders, one man, he is african-american and from the area, but bigger than that. >> much bigger than that. there's too much at stake for the national conversation not to move forward at the highest levels of leadership in our country. this is not just about ferguson. this is about a crisis that's

being felt around the country. ferguson may have been the tipping point, but people across the country and around the globe are watching this and we have an obligation as a one america, as americans, to figure out how we move the envelope on issues of race, justice, fairness, equality. that conversation cannot happen as a result exclusively of captain johnson's leadership. it must be done at a higher level. >> reverend markel hutchins, civil and human rights activist, staying with us late through the night, losing your voice. we appreciate your insight and prescriptions for ways for this to be diffused and hopefully benefit all americans. appreciate your time. >> good to be with you. >> we want to reiterate again what you were just talking about, that the governor, jay nixon, signed an executive order deploying national guard troops to ferguson. he said sunday night's clashes

prompted his decision, giving deliberated, coordinated, intensified violent acts on lives and property in ferguson, i am directing the highly capable men and women of the national guard to restore peace and order to this community. >> and it will be interesting to see what happens come monday morning. the autopsy information is now out. schools are suspended, the national guard is on the way. it will be an interesting situation for residents there the beginning of the week. >> we have much more after this short break. stay with us. in new york state, we're changing the way we do business, with startup ny. we've created tax free zones throughout the state. and startup ny companies will be investing hundreds of millions of dollars in jobs and infrastructure. thanks to startup ny, businesses can operate tax free for 10 years. no property tax. no business tax. and no sales tax.

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