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chris is on assignment this morning. we'll get straight to the breaking news. clashes get out of hand in ferguson, missouri, overnight, so much so that the governor has now decided to deploy the national guard. a private autopsy requested by michael brown's family revealed the unarmed teenager was shot six times, at least six times. >> brown was hit twice in the head, four times in his right arm, no gunpowder was found, indicating that the shots were not fired from close range. this is one of three autopsies being performed on brown. the u.s. department of justice now set to perform the third. we'll go down to cnn's don lemon who has been in ferguson and saw much of what transpired firsthand last night. don, tell us what you saw last night. >> reporter: it was unbelievable, really. the clashes were fierce, jim. good morning to you and kate, by the way. police in riot gear taking on protesters with teargas and rubber bullets. it started hours before curfew
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was to began and lasted well after it was supposed to be in effect. police say protesters throw molotov cocktails at them and that some of them opened fire in their direction. now, two civilians were shot in the chaos. authorities say they were not the one whose fired those shots. president barack obama being briefed on all of this today at the white house. cnn's george howell joins me now with more on the latest. jofrnlg, what do you have this morning? >> reporter: you see what happened last night. i can't help but think back to the first day this all went down, myself and my photo journalist jordan were in a situation where you hear shots fired. our colleague steve kasten obama in the same situation, several nights of unrest. you have three different groups, a group of protest rs who have come out to protest peacefully. that's what they want to development then you have another group who comes in to make trouble and you have
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police, criticized for being too heavy handed. in many cases they feel dammed if they do and damned if they don't. peaceful protests turned into chaos overnight, leaving two people wounded by civilian gunfire according to police. officers in riot gear firing smoke and teargas canisters into crowds ahead of the midnight curfew after police say some protesters turned violent. children and families were seen among the crowd. at times protesters returning teargas canisters from police. others trying to recover from the gas fired into the crowds. >> the situation first started to deteriorate with the shooting of a civilian on west florence and ferguson avenues. we quickly responded with additional officers to reach the victim and got them to a safe
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position. that was followed by shots being fired on officers, a number of molotov cocktails being hurled and then the looting. >> protesters say otherwise. >> we were peaceful. this is unacceptable and this is not the law. >> reporter: violence erupting as a preliminary autopsy report done by dr. michael baden reveals brown was shot at least six times, twice in the head and four times in the arm, baden adding that all the bullets entered from the front contradicting some eyewitness accounts that brown was shot in the back. also in the report, no trace of gunpowder residue found on the 18-year-old's clothing which suggests brown was shot from a distance, not up close. dr. baden says until he can examine the clothing himself, we won't know for sure. >> when you have someone go in, someone who can look and evaluate and those results are
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presented to the family, i think there's more of a sense of trust that the family has in knowing exactly how michael brown died. >> god bless his soul, police shot this boy outside my apartment. >> this exclusive video obtained by cnn shows an up-close look at the aftermath. officer daryn wilson accused of shooting the teen appears to be to the right. earlier sunday michael brown's family grieved before a crowded church as the justice for michael brown rally. >> michael brown was not just some young black boy. he was a human being. he was not an animal, but that's how he was killed. >> reporter: the service was meant to honor their son and to demand justice. >> they want to know that they will have their day in court, that the killer of their child will be held accountable to the full extent of the law.
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>> reporter: the breaking news in all of this, obviously that governor jay nixon signed an executive order bringing in the missouri national guard to work in concert with state troopers. don, look. i know you talked to people, too. you know the outrage out here is very real. so how this plays out is really anyone's guess, don. >> absolutely. what effect will the national guard have on all this. thank you, george. chris king is the editorial director of the st. louis american. thank you for joining us this morning. what effect might the national guard have on this? you think it will tamp it down or only insight people further? >> the powers are broad and the executive order was vague. i have no idea what's going to happen. i don't think anyone does. >> we saw the tactical units, molotov cocktails, rubber bullets, all of that. how did this escalate into this? >> well, i don't think there was enough effort to stop the fire
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from getting started. there's a lot of effort to put out the fire as aggressively was possible. literally the fires were started, as captain john said tonight, by molotov cocktails. those words have never been said in ferguson before this event. they came from outsiders, a group from chicago. people in camp field green where michael brown was shot, they were talking about it from the beginnings. we had a name when sierra, a woman who addressed the governor at greater saint mark church saying there are people coming in and starting fires. >> this started the night after it happened. that group came in that quickly from chicago? >> yes, they did. yes, they did. there's trails that come up from jennings, an adjoining community. if they say that around here to people, they say oh, yeah, from jennings. this is a mobile group that goes around and they enjoy confrontation. >> you believe none of the bad
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actors, none of the people looting and stealing things -- >> i don't believe that. >> you think they're all from outside? nobody here 1234. >> once you start a fire -- the fire spread. there were bad actors within the community and there were organized looters. all the people arrested were not from ferguson. someone not from ferguson started the fire and someone not from ferguson looted the stores. you a lot of angry upset grieving people. they were part of the problem, some of them. the peaceful protesters who should have been heard from the beginning, they got lost in the fire. >> let's talk about a very emotional moving service that happened with the family and a number of different people. how do you think that it devolved into this intense situation where there would be a need to have this memorial service and need to bring in the national guard. >> don, there's a strong african-american middle class here. they were at the memorial services. they weren't on the streets when things got bad. the problem now is, with the
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release of the autopsy report and the handling of the violence and now the middle ground, they're going to drift closer to those angry kids. there are some very, very, very unhappy people that are in the middle class. i don't see a middle way from here. >> unhappy people, those people aren't looting stores, aren't shooting off bullets. >> no, no, i'm not saying that. i'm saying part of the reason the middle ground isn't on the streets cooling these kids down is a lot of them aren't cooled down. there's a lot of unhappy people with the way the investigation is being handled. the autopsy doesn't look good. it inflames people. >> you're not saying most of the people who live here, most of the people out there are in support of people who are doing terrible things? >> absolutely not. >> most of the people here are law abiding citizens. it's a small group of people causing that. >> right. the fire was set from the
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outside and it spread. >> reporter: it's interesting to me listening to captain ron johnson from last night, clear live exhausted, overwhelmed in a sense. i think he's saddened by what happened and quite frankly, i think he's embarrassed. what can be done -- if the people who are out there looting and robbing -- i'm not talking about the people who are protesting, you have the right for civil disobedience. if you can't listen to someone who is brought in or someone who is from the community who you can relate to, then who are you going to listen to? >> the reports on the ground and the official reports differ in lots of details. our web editor who is on the ground said the teargas hit the crowd before the crowd instigated violence and it also hit the crowd when there was still children in the crowd. >> reporter: that's not what he
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said. he said last night two to three hours before the curfew these things started to happen. you can't make excuses, chris, for the people who are doing those things. >> i'm not making excuses. i'm trying to differentiate the people who are trying to protest -- >> reporter: i think people understand that. you can't say all the bad actors are from outside the community. you heard captain johnson for all those saying the police incited this, these actions started two to three hours before the police were even out on the streets. how can you say it was started by a molotov dock tall. >> when the woman from canfield told the governor there were people coming in from outside, he gave her a lecture on the first amendment. he didn't hear her. i don't think he believed her. i believed her. now they're talking about it in the press conferences, what seemed unbelievable a week ago. >> thank you very much, chris king. kate, it's very interesting to see how this is going to unfold.
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it really devolved into a bad situation. i have not seen anything like this the entire time i have had ben. >> that's what i wanted to ask you, don. you've been there on the ground, been there from day to day. how does last night seem different, as if there had to have been a tipping point? >> i think last night was a tipping point. i think again when i firms got here and told you and everyone who could listen, everyone within the sound of my voice, i didn't think people were violent, i wasn't afraid of people, i thought people wanted to be heard, they just wanted their voices to be heard. wanted some sort of validation. they didn't want to feel like they were occupied, didn't want to feel like they were threatened. this is completely different. i'm not talking about the majority of people protesting peacefully. i'm talking about the ones acting stupidly out of stupidity, the ones looking for reasons to a lot and rob and shoot off guns. it doesn't make any sense.
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it's ignorant actions. i think it's devolving into that. what it's doing, it's deflecting from the real issue here. as captain ron johnson said last night, in this press conference, he said it's embarrassing to him and to the brown family as well. >> that's one thing we've heard from the brown family and their attorneys since day one, they want it to be peaceful because they wanted the honor the life of that young man. it's clearly a distraction and a horrible distraction at that to this point. what do you think is going to happen today? we've seen kind of this roller coaster ride, don, quiet during the day, calls for peace and then you never know what's going to happen at night. >> well, i don't know what's going to happen. i think last night once police were out in force in their tactical gear and they really shut down that hot zone that they called, people had no other option but to go into their
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homes or leave the neighborhood. police were not having it last night. we had guns drawn. my producer had guns from police officers drown on us, guns with flashlights on the end of them. they would say hands up, hands up. we would have to say we're here from the media, the other officer let us in. we're going to park here and go do our live shot. at one point they moved us out of the parking lot because we had to park on the sidewalk, it was a business arena. the business owners didn't want us on the sidewalks. i don't know what's going to happen when the national guard gets here. people have to stop making excuses for the people doing bad things but saying i understand these people are frustrated. i was understanding of that in the beginning, although i did not condone the violence. i was understanding, i know people are frustrated. now it is just stupidity and it's not helping anything. >> it's just getting worse. that's absolutely right. all the peaceful protesting is what's getting lost and caught in the middle of it. don, stick with us.
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we'll get back with you throughout the show, great to have you this morning. thank you. we'll have much more on this coming up, a key witness to the shooting who is going to be joining us live. we'll really examine what we're learning from this preliminary autopsy report, answers people have been waiting for from the very beginning. let's get a quick check of some of the other top stories. >> how about jim sciutto sitting in. >> just another italian between two smart women. >> it's a requirement for the job. president obama defending u.s. military action to protect a strategic dam in northern iraq. u.s. warplanes joined british forces to battle isis militants all in an effort to retake the mosul dam. israel and the palestinians are up against the clock.
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their latest cease-fire ends at midnight tonight, 5:00 p.m. eastern time. the sides are trying find common ground toward a lasting peace. it follows israel's campaign in gaza that killed almost 2,000 people in response to thousands of rocked being fired into israel. wikileaks founder julian assange says he'll be leaving the ecuadorian embassy soon. he says he is suffering from various health problems after being hold up in the embassy for two years. he blamed obstructions created by the u.k. for his health issues. he faces arrest for alleged sex offenses in sweden and the highly publicized leaks of u.s. documents. texas governor rick perry remaining defiant. perry tells fox news sun he'd take the same course of action again. this indictment on two felony counts stems from the veto
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funding to a councilwoman. the governor remaining defiant. we'll see what happens as the situation continues to play out. >> what we know at least is this could follow him for a very long time. >> no question. you see the images from the scene there, the police in military-like uniforms, the masks on in missouri, a war-like scene. >> we'll take a break and get right back to that scene in ferguson and talking about exclusive new video from the scene where michael brown was shot and killed by a police officer. an eyewitness provided this video exclusively to cnn. she's going to be joining us next to share her reaction to what she saw. >> the u.s. intensifying its air strikes on isis terrorists. the battle is raging this morning over a crucial dam in northern iraq. we're live on the ground with the very latest from there. [announcer] play close-good and close.
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shooting of michael brown. we have new video now from a witness to shah shooting provided exclusively to cnn. i need to warn you that what you're about to see may be quite difficult to watch. you do not see the shooting, but you do see what happened immediately afterwards. the officer you'll see on the right is darwren wilson. >> god bless his soul. police shot this boy outside my apartme apartment. they killed him. [ indistinct shouting ] >> the young woman who shot that video, p.j. crenshaw joins us now. she's here with her attorney karen lewis. thank you for being here. i am so glad to speak to you. you were there that night. you tell us from a very
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different perspective what went on because you witnessed it all. you waited until now to release this video. why is that? >> because more importantly, i was concerned with my safety, of course, and because the media didn't release the name until several days after it happened. >> the name of the officer. >> yes, darren wilson. we wanted to put the name with the face. i think this is relative nvgs for most people. >> you mentioned you were concerned about your safety. did you have reason to fear? >> i didn't. but just thoughts from my attorney. >> be careful. >> yes, hold back. >> what is going through your mind as this is happening. take me back to the moment. why did you feel a need to record what was going on outside the window? >> from it all initially happening i knew this was not right. i knew the police shouldn't even have been chasing this young boy and firing at the same time. the fact that he got shot in the face, it was something that clicked in me like, no, somebody else needs to see this. this isn't right.
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i've got to record. >> you pulled out your cell phone camera and started rolling. how long after it all. you saw the whole scenario played out, right? >> yes, ma'am. a good 30 seconds i had to run into my house and get my phone, i put it on camera and started recording what i saw. so about 30 seconds. >> walk me through that. >> what we're looking at is officer darren wilson to the right, he's just looking over the body, just looking baffled and bewildered, trying to explain to the officer what have i just done. then we get this picture of him pacing back and forth, just like, in disbelief. it's like he understands that he just shot this boy in the face and that this boy was not armed. to me this video just seems relative for this time period, especially including the fact that chief jackson said that the reason this video wasn't even on
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the media at the time when it should have been was because he wanted to get all the information out at the same time, under the freedom of information act. they could have easily given these videos as well because they confiscated my phone. >> let's go back to that in a second. take me back to a moment when you see a tussle at the police cruiser. what was going on? what happened? >> from my point of view i couldn't tell exactly. from my point of view he wanted to pull him. >> the officer pulled michael brown into the car? >> look like he wanted to do -- brown being a bigger fellow, that didn't work, he got away. it seemed to have upset the officer. >> and then what happened? >> got out and started chasing after the boy. i'm hearing shots fired, clearly none of them hit him. but one i think did graze him as they saw on the autopsy report. at the end he turned around
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after i'm guessing he felt the bullet graze his arm, he turned around and was shot multiple times. >> the autopsy is showing he was shot from the front, not the back. does that square with what you saw? >> definitely. he was running away. when he turned towards the cop is when he let off more shots. >> let's go to the point where i hear your voice. you sound really upset. >> i haven't even lived there a month. i just moved there out of my parent's home. to see something like this outside my window as i'm trying to go to work is traumatizing. >> you're from ferguson? >> yes. i'm from jennings but i moved to ferguson. >> how has the neighborhood been? >> it's kind of peaceful. if you walk down the street, somebody will just say hey, how are you doing? you know your neighbors will say something to you every now and then. it's not as hectic as they're
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appearing it to be. >> what have you made of the ferguson police department? have you ever seen them on the streets interacting with any of the officers before but prior to this incident? >> at first i did feel comfortable living in my apartment because there are a police presence around constantly, police driving up and down the streets. crime is a little more over there. but now it just -- it doesn't seem -- >> then the police take your cell phone from you to take the video. how did that all happen? >> well, from my point of view, as soon as they start putting the yellow tape around, the family started coming up, screaming and asking what happened and nobody is giving them answers. me and my boss, we were like, we saw everything, we were standing on top of my balcony. of course, the police were there, too. they brought us all down for questioning which then my cell phone was confiscated. >> how long did it take to get the phone back? >> it happened saturday. they told me i'd get it back
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until monday, but i didn't get it back until later on on tuesday. >> i want to ask you about what you're seeing happen in ferguson now. we saw escalation in protests, violence over the weekend, the national guard is being called in. as a resident in ferguson, how does that make you feel? >> i'm concerned for all my friends that live out there. they're having to go through all of this because of the unjustness of one person and i just don't think it's right. i feel like nobody should be concerned for their safety when the police aren't even helping them. that's what they're there for, no public safety going on. >> piaget, you moved there a month ago, had all this happening, you witnessed the death of the young man. it's been a traumatizing time for you coming on to speak with us. a big thank you for your attorney. we wish you well. thank you for speerking with us
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and giving us the video for helping tell the story what happened to michael brown. >> no problem. he needs justice. >> he does need justice. thank you so much. we'll have more continuing coverage from the ground in missouri. the national guard being destroyed to the area. new details emerging from one of the autopsies on michael brown. there are three. what does it tell us about how michael brown died? that's ahead. unlimited cash back. let that phrase sit with you for a second. unlimited. as in, no limits on your hard-earned cash back. as in no more dealing with those rotating categories. the quicksilver card from capital one. unlimited 1.5% cash back on everything you purchase, every day. don't settle for anything less.
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welcome back to "new day" everyone. the national guard is being deployed to ferguson, missouri, following another round of intense clashes between police and protesters there. it spiraled out of control after results from one of three autopsies that are set to be performed on michael brown showed the teen was shot at least six times including twice in the head. there is a diagram of that preliminary autopsy report. brown's family and attorneys will be discussing those results later today. more violence erupted as results were made public. we're joined by cnn anchor don lemon live from ferguson, also cnn political commentator host of huff post live mark hill and cnn analyst paul callan a former
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defense attorney. mark, let me start with you on the ground. you were -- as don was, you were in the middle of it last night. you got caught up in that back and forth with police and teargas. what was the scene like around you? what was going on? >> the tension was incredible. we thought it was going to be calm night. we left a peace rally, we were with the brown family, reverend sharpton, ready to watch the peace march. some people had marched peacefully down the street. we went to the north land shopping center. when we got there, we started to hear shots and see a lot of movement. apparently that's when young people had clashed with law enforcement. we were caught inside. police swarmed the area, wouldn't am lau us to leave. teargas came in, we couldn't see, we couldn't breathe. we were on the trail end of the
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teargas. more law enforcement moved in. we were stuck there for about two and a half hours. >> what was the event -- did it seem, as don has been discussing this morning, did it seem there are a bad element that was mixing in with otherwise peaceful protesters? >> there is a very small element that is setting things off. the night before i was out there beyond curfew and i saw people throwing molotov dock talts. we had to put the fire out next to a restaurant for people who had done that. we saw a young man shot, some from in town, the group i saw actually was from oakland. last night i didn't see or hear about any violence. it seemed people were moving peacefully down the street and police approached. i don't know what happened. >> don, i'll talk about the national guard in a second. paul, i want to talk about this breaking news out of this autopsy report. this is the private autopsy requested by the family.
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a well-known forensic pathologist who conducted this. this is the preliminary autopsy report, a diagram we're being shown right here. the big headline out of it, and i want your take, michael brown was shot six times, all to his front. what does this tell you? >> a couple of fascinating things. first of all, you almost never see a situation where a private family autopsy becomes public before the official autopsy in the case, kind of unusual. >> i did want to ask you about that. >> we can talk about that in a minute. these findings are so interesting, i don't want to get away from it. dr. bodden when he was asked, i saw one of the comments. he said the autopsy results don't show that the shots were justified or assign blame. he did say he thought there were too many shots fired against michael brown. with respect to where the shots are, i find it to be very, very interesting. it looks like four of the shots may be in the arm. now, this is sort of typical of
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officer-involved shootings. through years in handling these cases as a prosecutor and defense attorney, i'm amazed how often the cops miss when they're shooting somebody. it's very hard to be accurate with a handgun when you're under a lot of tension. obviously he's probably trying to hit dead center on michael brown. instead he's hitting him in the arm. only the head shots probably were the things that stopped michael brown and put him on the ground. the real question is, was brown charging the officer. >> what does the head shot indicate? can you make a definitive conclusion? >> bodden and others who looked at this says this means brown could have been charging the officer. he also could have been surrendering to the officer. but the real question is did he turn and charge the officer. remember, he reportedly weighed over 300 pounds, he's over six feet tall. i'm playing devil's advocate here. this is what the officer's attorney is going to do.
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he's going to say this man struggled with the cop at the car, maybe tried to take the cop's gun. then he begins to flee, turns around and comes back to attack the officer. the officer in fear for his life opens fire. the family is going to say he had his hands up in the air, he was unarmed and shot without justification. the hands up in the air is another interesting issue. >> that's what we've heard pretty consistently from the few eyewitnesss that have spoke tone the media. >> what does the autopsy tell us about the hands up in the air. i found this to be an interesting fact. we've got to look at that autopsy report and see were the entry wounds here and here as you would have with hands or are they here, here and here where your hands would be down? at what point in time were the shots fired? maybe he had his hands up at first and dropped his arms? you can build a lot of scenarios out of an autopsy report. >> it gives us something but
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definitely doesn't give us everything. >> the one definitive thing it gives us is he was not close enough to have powder purposes on his body when the shots were fired. i the tell you statistically more often than not, officer-involved shootings, the person shot is at least 24 feet away in the average case where an officer fires his weapon. i'm not surprise tld were no powder burns on the victim in the case. >> stick with me, paul. i want to bring don in on this. don, this is the first of three to be released. i also found interesting and paul was alluding to this at the very beginning, michael bodden told "the new york times," this is the type of information that could have and should have been released on day one by the county. >> reporter: right, transparency. remember, paul, as well that i don't think this forensic pathologist had access to the clothing as well, and the clothing could have powder burns on it. >> absolutely right, yes, could.
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>> reporter: once someone does have access to the clothing, they may find that out. but, yes, that is one of the issues here. it's transparency. you heard the ferguson police chief saying, you know, you guys wanted transparency soy released it all on the same day. that was sort of the excuse they made. there was all sorts of information that could have been released earlier, information that has not been released so far, and that's all part of it. this is about transparency, at least in the very beginning, not sure exactly what it's about now when it comes to some of the violent protests. again, not the majority of the people who are protesting here, just a small group of people who are making it bad for everyone. >> i want to be clear, kate, i wasn't saying that i would have expected law enforcement to have released the autopsy. usually you see the autopsy later in the game. what's unusual here is you have a family autopsy that's been performed and is made public right away.
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usually a private guy is brought in later in the game, after a grand jury has decided -- >> reporter: if you hear the number of shots that were made, you would have heard about that. you would in many cases hear who the officer was, what his record was like. >> absolutely. >> i think that's one of the motivations for the private autopsy, is the family said they haven't heard anything -- >> they don't trust the law enforcement authorities. >> i want to get your take because obviously we're not the experts here. you're definitely more the expert. you're going to have three autopsies. one is the preliminary autopsy although he says he doesn't have access to everything he wanted access to. you have two other autopsies. would you expect they're going to differ greatly? can they? >> yes, they can. these are expert witnesses. you'd be surprised how often expert witnesses differ.
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in murder cases, it's not unusual for there to be a defense expert who differ strongly with the state's expert. >> they're not going to differ on where the gunshots were? >> they may differ on ricochet, angle of entry. some may si it's the front or they may say it came in at a certain angle that would be consistent with a man surrendering as opposed to a man charging. i would expect there may be a lot of disagreement about specifics of the autopsy. >> don and i have been talking about it as well. you talk about autopsy report being released. do you think that is going to be another instigating factor to inflame tensions today? or do you think getting this information out there finally will somehow calm things, especially in the addition of the national guard coming in? >> well, it's certainly not going to do anything to calm tensions here.
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just the sheer number of shots is going to upset people. people will say and have said on the ground, we can't understand how there's any justification for six shots. as well the autopsy report is not being released. everyone is saying no one trusts the initial autopsy. the number of shots combined with the general lack of trust is going to make tensions probably intensify tonight. >> completely agree. >> don, mark, paul, thank you all very much. a lot to continue to talk through throughout the morning. much more coverage on this. thank you all so much. coming up next on "new day," talking about just that. the national guard is heading to ferguson, missouri, after last night's protest spun out of control. we'll speak with lieutenant generous sell on ray who coordinated in the aftermath of hurricane katrina. we'll talk about what the governor's security orders mean for the city of ferguson. that's coming up.
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at least 250 people hurt, cut off also from water, power and phone lines in one city. an official near the iraq border tells state media they there could be heavy damage in the rural areas surrounding the city. it was 56.2 quake, the epicenter was around iran's oil production facilities. we'll bring you updates when we can. german magazine der spiegel reports the country's intelligence service intercepted phone calls by secretary of state john kerry and his predecessor hillary clinton. unnamed german sources claim the spying was accidental and the recordings were destroyed once officials realized. the german government has been highly critical of eavesdropping by the nsa. president obama is taking time-out from his summer vacation to attend to business at the white house. attorney general eric holder will brief the president on the latest developments in the on going conflict in ferguson, missouri. the president will also meet with the national security
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council about the situation in iraq and he will have lunch with vice president joe biden and the president is scheduled to return to martha's vineyard tomorrow. so a break from his break. >> one hell of a working vacation. we want to go to meteorologist indra petersons. i'm surrounded by women, like growing up with my three sisters. it's great. >> extremely happy, right? especially on a monday. here is what we're looking at. we're talking about showers really across the entire country than tox the jet stream lifting the the north. with that the gulf is open and all the moisture is making its way to the north. that's where we get the scattered showers, nothing too major, but southeast seeing showers today, getting better by the end of the week. meanwhile, if you're in the midwest, starting with showers today. northeast looks good for the first half of the week and gets worse by the second half of the week as that kicks over. rain total is not too big, about one or two inches. the big story is a lot of heat making its way in. the hot, muggy feeling. now temperatures into the south are going to be climbing to a
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"armageddon." >> thanks indra. let's take another break. coming up next on "new day," violence erupts again in ferguson, missouri. now the national guard is being sent in to try to calm the violence. will they be able to stop it? >> the attorney for michael brown's family will join us. his reaction to the autopsy results and what we can expect to hear from the family in their news conference later today. [announcer] play close-good and close. help keep teeth clean and breath fresh with beneful healthy smile snacks. with soft meaty centers and teeth cleaning texture,it's dental that tastes so good. beneful healthy smile food and snacks.
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immediately. >> breaking news. some dramatic pictures if missouri. the national guard is headed to ferguson after every other step to contain rowdy demonstrations after michael brown's shooting have failed. this follows another volatile night with gunshots, molotov cocktails and looting on the streets. how can the guard help get the situation under control?
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we're joined by lieutenant general russell honore, he coordinated military relief efforts after hurricane katrina. very good to have you here, general honore. thank you for joining us. >> good morning. >> 200 national guard troops deployed, the curfew reinstated. also just seeing those pictures, the viewers back home, the police in what look like military uniforms, the gas masks back on. as you see developments there, the violence overnight. do you think these are the right moves by governor nixon? >> it's a logical sequence. the governor by constitution has a responsibility to maintain civil control inside the state of missouri. this is one of the measures and that is why we have the national guard in each state who do a mission first to the governor and then to the president of the united states as required. the good news is that inside the state of missouri, you have two
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military police battalions. as i recall from my four years mobilizing and training the national guard between 2004 and 2008, most of those units have trained, localized even deployed even in afghanistan, iraq and kosovo. missouri has division headquarters that they have an option to use to provide it as required. these troops are mps. i would assume that's the units they're sending. i have not seen the details yet. this thing has two battalions of mps. >> i'm glad you brought that up. i'm glad you brought up your connection because you've helped train these national guard troops, but also their military experience here. i don't mean to minimize at all the danger. we saw that danger and heard it from our reporters on the
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ground, molotov cocktails. people shot, mind you not by police, but by others. but you also know the potential to further inflame the situation with military-like tactics. can it be a concern that military experience among the law enforcement responders could conceivably make the situation worse rather than better? >> well, i think the law enforcement, if you're talking about the militarization or the type of tactics they used, i'm somewhat surprised they didn't use more of a riot control posture, appearing to be more of an assault posture. hoping the mps will pick up the control kits. we have several of these kits available to the national guard. the other thing is missouri is the home of our military police school. i would imagine these troops that are coming in will be well equipped with riot control equipment which is basically a lot of shields and face guards
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as well as body protection to protect them from any debris. that's what i'm hoping to see, but i haven't had the opportunity to collaborate with them and get any information yet. they certainly have the training and they should come with the right equipment which is riot control equipment. >> it sounds like you're saying more defensive in an offensive posture. you rightfully got great praise during the katrina situation. you brought in the 82nd airborne division. you brought in military troops to help respond but you were lauded for keeping them under control, famously cursing a soldier that had his gun pointed at people saying this is a rescue mission, not an assault mission. how do you as a commander instill in the law enforcement people responding here that kind of 'em pa sis? how do you make that happen so it doesn't get out of control? >> leadership at the point of the incident. you can't be sitting back inside
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st. louis someplace and managing this from a tv screen. senior leadership is going to have to be on the ground down there with the state police captain don johnson and his crew as well as collaborating with the police department. you might have 200 national guard troops working with the police at the direction of where the police -- where the governor wants them to go, but they'll be higher headquarters command dealing with support and collaboration to make sure those troops have the intelligence they need and working with the police. they'll have to be integrated with the police. you talk about 200-plus national guard. that state has the capacity to put 9,000 national guard in there immediately. so they've got the capacity and they have the right kind of troops which are mps, to get this mission done. >> mps on the streets of an american city. thanks very much lieutenant general russell honore. we get a sense of the difficult
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balance that law enforcement has on the ground there, letting people demonstrate, express themselves, but keeping the violence under control. >> we've seen how difficult that balance is because we've been seeing it playing out every night. jim, thank you so much. a lot of news we're following on the ground in ferguson and beyond. let's get right to it. this is unacceptable. until we get justice, we will not stop! >> we are trying to use the least amount of force while also pro tkting the property of the people of ferguson. >> missouri governor is deploying the national guard. >> i had no alternative but to elevate the level of our response. the u.s. launching more than a dozen air strikes against isis militants. the peshmerga are engaged in a ground battle with isis fighters for full control. this is supporting the iraqi military on the ground in a combat operation. good morning. and welcome again to "new day." chris is on route to ferguson,
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missouri, right now. jim sciutto is with us this morning. following the breaking news, missouri's governor has deployed the national guard after ferguson erupts in clashes once again between riot police and protesters. the anger really boiling over as a private autopsy requested by michael brown's family, preliminary results reveal the unarmed teenager was shot at least six times. >> bullets hit the front of brown's body. this is key. twice in the head, four times in the right arm. results suggest the shots were fired from a distance since no gunpowder was found. two autopsies have been performed on brown. the department of justice set to perform a third. we want to go to cnn's don lemon. he's been in ferguson and is our eyewitness on the ground. don, tell us what you saw. >> reporter: unbelievable, jim and kate. good morning, by the way. what started off as a peaceful protest on sunday and church services really degenerated into chaos hours later. i witnessed a lot of it.
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a lot of police presence. police in riot gear taking on protesters with teargas and rubber bullets hours before a curfew was to begin. it lasted well after the curfew really went into effect. police say protesters threw molotov cocktails at them and some of them opened fire in their direction. two civilians were shot in this chaos. authorities say the shots were fired by demonstrators. president barack obama, of course, being briefed on all of this today at the white house. we're going to talk with the attorney for the brown's family in just moments here. if you're talking about what we're witnessing, we're witnessing a whole lot of police presence, journalists even having guns turned on them until they identified themselves as journalists. another journalest, our very own george howell joins us with his account. good morning, george. >> reporter: don, good morning to you. given what you experienced, given what i remember from last week when this all went down on monday night, remember you hear the gunshots in front of you, behind you, you have to take
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cover. this is an example of the gas that was used overnight. police used rubber bullets, they used teargas and smoke canisters to clear the crowds. now they're stepping it up. the national guard basically coming in to take control of these streets. how that plays out is anyone's guess. here is the thing. you've got three different groups, people who come out to protest peacefully. then there are those who come in to cause trouble and police who are criticized for being too heavy handed, but in many ways feel they're damned if they do and damned if they don't. peaceful protests turned into chaos overnight leaving two people wounded by civilian gunfire according to police. officers in riot gear firing smoke and teargas canisters into crowds ahead of the midnight curfew after police say some protesters turned violent. children and families were seen among the crowd. at times protesters were turning
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teargas canisters toward police and others trying to recover from the gas fired into the crowds. >> the situation first started to deteriorate with a shooting of a civilian. we quickly responded with additional officers to reach the victim and got them to a safe position. that was followed by shots being fired on officers, a number of molotov cocktails being hurled and then the looting. >> reporter: protesters say otherwise. >> we were peaceful. this is unacceptable and this is not the law. >> reporter: violence erupting as a preliminary autopsy report done by the family's own pathologist, dr. michael baden reveals brown was shot six times, twice in the head, four times in the arm. bodden contradicting eyewitness accounts that brown was shot in the back. also in the report, no trace of
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gunpowder residue found on the 18-year-old eels clothing which suggests brown was shot from a distance, not up close. dr. baden says until he can examine the clothing himself, we won't know for sure. >> god bless his soul. police shot this boy outside my apartment. >> reporter: this exclusive video obtained by cnn, shows an up-close look at the aftermath from that day. officer darren wilson accused of shuting the teen appears to be to the right. earlier on sunday, his parents grieving at the justice for michael brown rally. >> michael brown was not just some black boy. he was a human being. he was not an animal, but that's how he was killed. >> reporter: the service was meant to honor their son and to demand justice. >> they want to know that they will have their day in court, that the killer of their child will be held accountable to the
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fum extent of the law. >> reporter: to bring you up to speed on the latest facts of what happened overnight after several nights of unrest, last night we know at least two people were shot, not by police. these were shots that happened within the crowd according to police. now, here is the question. with the release of that autopsy and with the national guard soon to step in, it is unclear how people in this community will react. we know some protesters are already out here. at this hour, don, the protests, mostly peaceful. it's the element of people who come in to cause problems, unclear how that will play out in the next several hours. >> reporter: the people who should not be out here are the one whose are causing most of the problems and it's a handful of them. we appreciate that, george howell. let's talk about that with darrell parks, the attorney for michael brown's family. let's first before we get to the autopsy. the national guard is being
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brought in. what effect do you think it will have? >> hopefully it will bring calm, that's our prayer, the family's prayer, that the community can go back to normal and we'll have law and order. >> reporter: now to the autopsy, again, these are just initial results, correct? >> correct. >> reporter: shot at least six times. not six times, but at least six times. what does this show you? >> number one, it shows you that michael was hit several times by the bullets from the officer. the only part that it doesn't shed great light on, of the diagram, you don't see the kill shot to the top of the head, the execution style that you hear us talking about so often. that shot is important because michael's head would have to be down for where the shot is positioned which is at the apex of his head. that's an important part of this here because it corroborates what the witnesses have told you, that he was down and that the officer shot him despite him trying to surrender.
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>> reporter: the number of shots, does that tell you anything? does that seem excessive to you? >> obviously seems excessive. >> reporter: and to the independent forensic examiner? >> i don't think they said. remember it's preliminary. a lot of things they don't know that they'll learn about, things that the original autopsy showed, they'll incorporate that. >> reporter: the witnesses we have been hearing on television saying his hands are up, but there appear to be no gunshot wounds that entered through the back or side of the arm, is that correct? >> you have to be careful there. where the entrance and exit wounds are and how they correlate with each of the interaction with the body is something that's going to be more detailed. so you won't get that level of detail right now. remember, we're preliminary. that level of detail of exit and reentrance are things you learn a little more. we thought it important that we now put it to the public that in some transparency there are at least six gunshot wounds --
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gunshots, excuse me, and the fact that how when this kid was surrendering that this officer was do a single shot to the apex of the head of this young man to take him down, without question. one thing clear about this autopsy, that shot took him down. >> reporter: from the very beginning, the ferguson police have said there was a struggle in the car. there was some sort of struggle in the car and maybe possibly outside the car. is there anything in the autopsy that shows that either on his hands or anywhere where there may be a struggle or he tried to get ahold of the gun. >> there's the possibility that there was a serious struggle in the car. >> reporter: any evidence that there was a struggle for the gun? >> i can't comment to that. i will leave that to the pathology professionals, to comment in terms of whether or not when and how gunshot interaction with the body, wherever it may be, when and where that may have taken place. >> reporter: there are reports of a witness out there corroborating the officer's side of the story, saying that mike
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brown or big mike as they call him, was charging the officer, his hands were not up, that he was charging the officer and he got ahold of the gun and that's why the officer did what he did. >> is this the officer's account? >> reporter: no, an eyewitness account. >> all witnesses i've heard from. >> reporter: alleged eyewitness account, unconfirmed witness to cnn telling their story, has been on radio stations and telling their story to other media that he was charged and that he tried to get ahold of the gun and in fact did get ahold of the gun and the officer was trying to fend him off. >> that version i think doesn't have great credibility. i think there was interaction of the gun and mike nl the car. where it may have hit him i won't comment on. there's a possibility it could have. we'll have to wait and let the forensic pathology play its course out for that level of specificity. >> reporter: ron johnson is the man in charge of trying to keep the calm, missouri highway
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patrol sounded exhausted and frustrated and said that the looters and the rioters, not the peaceful protesters, the majority of people, that it was embarrassing and that it was not only disrespectful to the family but it also was deflecting from the real actions that need to be taken for justice and deflecting away from the family. what has the family said about that and what is your assessment? >> i think any group of people out there who want to be helpful to the brown family in any type of way, they would stop immediately any type of violence, anything that's unlawful. this family doesn't want to see that. it hurts them to see this type of thing going on when mike brown is about to be buried in the next week or so. so we would hope that people, please stop that, please stop it. it's a distraction we don't need. this family doesn't need this distraction right now. >> reporter: you're holding a press conference dichlt is there anything we need to know beforehand? >> we'll have the great michael baden there.
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he'll go into detail in his own way as relates to the forensic pathology. >> thank you very much, daryl parks. >> reporter: he's having a press conference today. as you know, the head of the missouri highway patrol, the person heading up this part, trying to keep the community safe is saying he's going to have a press conference as well every single morning. so there's lots to be heard, lots of new information to come out today and beyond. kate, jim. >> don, thanks so much. we'll get back to you shortly. we veal much more on this story coming up. we'll be going over that preliminary autopsy report with a forensic expert to piece through what we know, what we don't know, what other big questions remain. first back over to michaela with a look at other big stories. a quick look at your headlines. thanks so much. in iraq kurdish fighters are gaining ground on isis in the battle for a strategic dam. the u.s. launcheded more than a dozen air strikes helping kurdish fighters retake part of
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the mosul dam. the air strikes included bomber jets for the first time. president obama is defending the air strike saying the dam is critical to the security of the u u.s. embassy in bagdad. indirect talks between israel and the palestinians are on going. the sides are up against the clock now. a five-day cease-fire is expected to ek prior midnight local time. courts say egyptian mediators are proposing a cease-fire extension to allow both sides more times to talk at a later date. julian assange says he will live the ecuadorian embassy soon. the wikileaks founder says he's suffering from health problems after being hold up in the embassy for two years. assange blames obstructions created by the uk for the health issues. he faces arrest if and when he leaves for alleged sex offenses in sweden and the highly publicized leaks of secret u.s.
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documents. doctors without borders now seeing ebola patients at a brand new treatment center in liberia. that complex will eventually hold up to 400 patients. it's the organization's largest ebola facility. on saturday about a dozen patients fled from a quarantined area when it was attacked by looters. police say looters were merely protesting the fact that the patients were quarantined there. they were pushing to have them quarantined elsewhere. now you have patients that have fled. you don't know where they are and if they're going to infect other people. >> a tweet from doctors without borders. they were saying we're doctors without borders, not doctors without limits. >> they're running out of rubber gloves, some of these facilities, some of the most basic medical necessities needed to take care of these patients. i was reading that in the "wall street journal." up next on "new day," the
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results of a private autopsy on michael brown are released. we'll take a much closer look at those autopsy results with the forensic pathologist ahead. maria state senator harshly criticized governor jay nixon on twitter and on our show. he's back to el us her thoughts on new orders to bring in the national guard. [ man ] cortana, when my wife calls
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welcome back to "new day." i'm don lemon live from ferguson missouri. national guard being deployed to ferguson following another night of chaos. demonstrations in support of michael brown getting out of hand again, forcing governor jay nixon's hand with a national guard order. nixon was harshly criticized last week by missouri state senator maria chappelle nadal. what does she think of nixon's decision to bring in extra law enforcement. let's ask her. what do you make of the national guard coming in? >> i find it very interesting because the national guard will be coming the ground zero one and two before governor nixon has come to ground zero. he's been in normandy, he's been
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at the command control that is in ferguson, but he has yet to come to ground zero and talk to the people who are really affected by the death of michael brown. >> how do you think his presence will help? >> people want to know you care. every other elected official that has come down has talked to all of the people who are from this community who are angered by all the intimidation. unfortunately we have some negative influences that are coming into this community and a lot of people who are -- a few people who are in this community who are making it just a worse problem. >> let's talk about all that. there are people very critical who are saying, you know, these people should be allowed to express themselves. making excuses for the looting, for the violence. there is no excuse. >> it's intolerable actually. what happened the other night, we had peaceful protesters who were protecting businesses so they would not be looted. that narrative has not been expressed so much in the media. so i'm very proud of that.
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but that same night ferguson police officers just stood by and didn't even encounter any of those looters at some of these businesses that protesters were trying to protect. >> i think that's a very good point. there were protesters standing in front of businesses telling looters you're not going to come in here. those were the peaceful protesters. that's a narrative, you're right, that has not been talked about a lot. you were involved in a situation that got out of control by people that were outside forces and people who were from here. tell us about it. >> last night we were on our way out, we were going to take the shortcut out through canfield to get to the main roads, jennings station road. all of a sudden as we're trying to go out the opposite way, there were five to six gunshots that we saw. prior to that there were kids running towards our vehicle. and we were a little bit nervous. we ducked down in the car and decided instead of going towards jennings station road through canfield, we. >> reporter: going to go south
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on west floor sent. i noticed that none of the police officers that had been there all day long during the daylight were there. it was kind of interesting because there were at least 200 police officers from highway patrol, st. louis city, st. louis county and otherwise. when we left, it took about ten minutes to get to our location. that's when we saw everything on the news. >> what's your message then, if you have a message -- again, we keep prefacing it. i'm not going to preface it every time. people should be smart enough to know, it's a small number of people, majority are peaceful. what do you say to those people because it's a distraction to the real issues here and to -- pays a disservice to michael brown's legacy. >> you're exactly right. what i would say to those negative influences both in the community and those folks coming
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into the community is they're a disgrace. >> they're fools you said. >> they're fools. they're a disgrace to this entire movement. what we are trying to address is the intimidation and harassment of police officers onto young people. >> you can't turn around and then intimidate and harass the people out here, the law abiding citizens and the good citizens of ferguson. >> it completely changes the narrative. yesterday was a fantastic day. we had tibetan monks who came straight from india and they wanted to be part of this movement. we had steppers who came out and riled up the crowd in a positive way. >> before i left -- i went away for one day to do something else and i came back, there were young girls, dance troops out, drum circles, what have you, very peaceful. all of a sudden, within a matter of hours, it devolved just because of some people. thank you very much. we appreciate you joining us here on cnn.
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kate, back to you in new york. >> don, thank you very much. good to get that perspective on the ground getting different people's take on what happened last night and what's going to change today. >> and with each story in this story you have conflict about the most basic details, not just of the shooting, but also the response to the shootings. >> that's a great point. coming up next on "new day," the private autopsy results on michael brown raise the tensions again in ferguson, missouri. we'll break down the findings with a forensic pathology. that's coming up. u.s. air strikes help kurdish forces retake part of a key dam in northern iraq. why is it so important in the fight against isis terrorists? that's just ahead. ong with trying new things? feel that in your muscles? yeah... i do... try a new way to bank, where no branches equals great rates.
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welcome back. the battle to retake a crucial dam from isis terrorists in iraq is intensifying. the u.s. is launching more -- has launched more than a dozen air strikes against the terrorists, helping kurdish forces on the ground retake back part of the mosul dam which supplies power to millions there. president obama saying the dam is critical to the security of the u.s. embassy in bagdad. let's turn to barbara starr. what are we learning about the fight to retake the dam? >> good morning. this hour kurdish forces appear to partially be controlling part of the facility, but not all of it. u.s. air strikes continuing as you saw in that video against isis positions around the dam. the president is defending this on the basis that the u.s. rules of engagement, if you will, in
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iraq were humanitarian operations and anything that needed to be done, air strikes, to protect u.s. facilities in bagdad, the u.s. embassy. the case being made is mosul dam could flood all the way to bagdad and impact the u.s. embassy and u.s. operations. many people, however, are likely to see this as an expansion of the u.s. air strikes and the u.s. mission in iraq. the concern about the dam, could isis blow it up, but also the dam is so fragile that it is not properly being maintained officials say, and unless they can get back in control of it, there's a good deal of worry it could break anyhow. >> putting millions of lives at risk. barbara, thank you very much live from the pentagon. a busy day today.
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talks aimed at ending the fighting in eastern ukraine taking place in berlin. russian and ukrainian foreign ministers sitting down with their counterparts from germany and france. all of this follows a weekend of heavy fighting between ukrainian forces and pro-russian separatists. ukraine's military reportedly made big ginns in the rebel hel. a hourful earthquake has shook western iran, cut off from water, power and phone lines. officials near the border with iraq tells state media the magnitude 6.2 quake caused heavy damage in the rural areas around the city. there are reports that many homes have been destroyed in several villages. we'll update you when we can. pope francis is wrapping up his first trip to asia with a challenge to north and south korea, find peace. the pope in a poignant moment
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greeted several women, many in wheelchairs, who were used as sex slaves in world war ii. they gave him a butterfly pin which he wore during mask. a friend of the man who inspired the viral ice bucket challenge died saturday after raising $100,000 to fight als. 27-year-old cory griffin was pronounced dead following a diving accident. he was celebrating the money he raised in honor of his friend pete, an als patient who came up with this fund-raising challenge that then went and continues to go viral. they are shocked and saddened by this tragic death, such a young man. >> unbelievably horrible. >> the ice bucket challenge continues. they're really making headway. >> i can't tell you how many friends i see on facebook, on twitter, doing this all over the world, china, europe. you name it. >> a pause in that celebration given the fact that the guy that made this all happen has died, so young. coming up next on "new day,"
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welcome back to "new day," the national guard is headed to ferguson, missouri, after more clashes on the streets overnight. this as the results from a private autopsy requested by michael brown's family reveals the unarmed teenager was shot six times, twice in the head. brown's family and attorneys will be speaking about those results later this morning. we'll speak with an expert in just a moment as folks really begin to start to piece together how these results match up with eyewitness accounts. >> bless his soul, police shot this boy outside my apartment. >> six, that's at least how many times 18-year-old michael brown was shot according to an independent autopsy requested by his family. the preliminary autopsy results indicate that brown was shot twice in the head, four times in the right arm and that all
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bullets entered from the front. one bullet that entered the top of his skull indicates he was bending forward when it hit him, causing a fatal injury. also, no gunpowder found on brown's body suggesting he was not shot at close range. this autopsy is one of three that will be performed. the state as well as the department of justice will also have their own examinations. police say brown was walking in the middle of the street with a friend when stopped. police have suggested he was the instigator, physically assaulting the police officer inside his cruiser, struggling to take his gun. >> one of those individuals at the time came in as the officer was exiting his police car, allegedly pushed the police officer back into the car where he physically assaulted the police officer. >> michael brown's friend with him that day, dorian johnson, says officer darren wilson grabbed brown who was trying to get away, not fighting for the gun. >> at that time he reached out
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the window with his left arm, grabbed on to my friend, big mike's throat and trying to pull him into the vehicle. >> some witness accounts say brown was running from the officer and appeared to be surrendering, his hands in the air at the time he was shot and killed. >> i see the officer proceeding, after my friend, big mike with his gun drawn and fired a second shot. that struck my friend big mike. at that time he turned around with his hands up, beginning to tell the officer that he was unarmed and to tell him to stop shooting, but at that time the officer was firing several more shots into my friend and he hit the ground and died. >> tiffany mitchell watched the shooting from a distance, then captured this video in the moments after the fatal shots. >> the officer gets out of his vehicle and pursuing michael as he's shooting his weapon. michael jerks his body as if he was hit, he turns around, faces the officer, puts his hands up. the officer continues to shoot him until he goes down to the
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ground. >> let's discuss this more. joining us now forensic pathologist dr. ceril whack. thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> there's a lot more we know this morning, but that means there's a lot more we do not know, from the results and the reports we have of this preliminary autopsy requested by the family, and there's a diagram provided to cnn of the gunshot wounds. what do, from your perspective, what does this answer? what questions? what does this definitively tell you? >> based upon what i have read and seen thus far, it appears that the two shots that struck michael brown in the head had to have been fired while he was falling forward. he was 6'3", i do not know the height of officer wilson. to my knowledge he's not a 6'8" guy that would have been shooting downward, in order for
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a bullet to be moving downward in the head of a 6'3" guy, obviously that head has to be in a crouched position. one shot reportedly entered the top of the head. i do not know where it exited. another shot we are told went in the right eye area, exited from the jaw and re-entered the clavicle, collar bone on the right sichltd here you have a clear downward trajectory of entrance, exit and reentrance. clearly that head had to have been down in this kind of a position. the arms, it's more difficult to ascertain. i've only seen four shots depicted on the right arm, and i do not know where the exit wounds were. supposedly three bullets were recovered in the first autopsy. one must keep in mind that the arms can be in various kinds of
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positions. flexion, extension, lateral, medial movements and so on. also in terms of any shooting, remember the person being shot is highly unlikely to be standing there as an immobile target. that person is ducking, bending, twisting, juking, jumping, falling and what have you. so that all has to be reconstructed. supposedly then a shot fired while the officer was in the car. that car needs to be thoroughly examined, and gunpowder residue must be looked for in the area from which the officer is shot. >> let me ask you about the question of gunpowder residue. from the report so far, this forensic pathologist says there was no gunpowder residue found on michael brown's body. however, he notes that he did not have access to michael brown's clothes. how key is that? >> well, the clothing obviously must be examined to see if there is any gunpowder residue on the
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clothing. but i believe the clothing was rather flimsy, typical summer attire for a young boy. it's highly likely that if the shots had been fired at relatively close range, gunpowder would have made its way through just a little t-shirt if indeed it was some kind of a flimsy garment. with a handgun, we'll see sippaling, taking a black pen coming down on white paper and that little bit of punctate blan kenning, that's what we call sippling. gunpowder residue is the carbon material, the burning fragments that come out from the muzzle of the gun and come onto the skin and they deposit, depending on how close it is, you may actually have black soot. a handgun you will not get it beyond 24 inches, usually not beyond 18 inches. once it goes beyond that, then you have a problem. you can't say that it was 28 or
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35 or 43 or 92 inches. there's no way then to determine what the range would have been except to say that it was a distance shot, beyond the 18, 24 inches. that is important, too, to try to reconstruct and see where the officer was, why he continued to shoot from that distance. >> also, doctor, from your perspective then, if we have some definitive answers, as you say, what is the biggest question in your mind as a forensic pathologist that you don't see in this report that you think is important? >> well, any forensic pathologist doesn't function in a vacuum in a case like this. you have to get reports and you have to do reconstruction. you have to go to the scene and then play it out with people as the actors. then the ballistics studies have to be done using a prototype of
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that gun to see what would be deposited in terms of gunpowder residue and sippling. then you have to see what the different stories are from the various people and put it all together. one thing you can be sure of, that once somebody is struck in the head twice, it's highly unlikely they are going to continue to move. so most probably you can reconstruct to this point and say that the shots that struck michael brown in the arm hit him first in whatever sequence, and that's not going to be possible i think to determine what the sequence of those four shots are. then the two head shots toppled him and they would have been fatal. and i repeat, for shots like that to have a downward trajectory in a man the size of michael brown, that body had to have been lurching forward. somebody is going to say, well, could he not have been charging like a bull? it's possible, highly unlikely. i think he was falling to the
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ground having been struck and as he was falling those shots were fired giving you the downward trajectory. >> let me also ask you on the question of those gunshots, from this preliminary report, they say the gunshots, the entry wounds -- the gunshots were from the front is what it suggests. i was looking back over the eyewitness reports that, as the witnesses have spoke tone the media so far. all three of them at one point or another in their recounting of what they saw said they believed that michael brown had been shot from behind. if this autopsy report doesn't suggest that, could that still be the case? is that still a possibility even though we don't see it here? >> well, clearly one can determine that no shots were struck in the back, at least as far as we are told thus far. as far as the arm is concerned, i will repeat what i said
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before, that oh i'll show you, look, supine and prone and so on, do you get the idea? when you're running, when you're running and your arms are flailing, what is the exact position of the arms when the bullets hit you? so that's a difficult reconstruction to make. and the fact that the shots are reportedly from the front, that's based upon what the pathologist sees when the body is in front of you. we talk about the anatomic position, the body facing you, lying on the autopsy table face up, palms up. that's when we talk right and left, front to back. that has nothing to do with the actual dynamics of how the shooting occurred in terms of the position, especially someone who is fleeing, someone who perceives themselves about to be shot or hears a shot and is moving and twisting and turning. and i repeat again, the arms you can see move in many different
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directions. >> that's an important -- i think a very important perspective as many people are trying to piece together what can be learned from that preliminary autopsy report. dr. cyril wekt, thank you very much. coming up next, the u.s. is launching more air strikes against isis positions in iraq, but is the offense working against the militants? 3rd and 3. 58 seconds on the clock, what am i thinking about? foreign markets.
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welcome back. u.s. air strikes are helping to loosen the grip of isis on a key dam in mosul in northern iraq. the strikes are helping kurdish forces on the ground retake part
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of the dam. is the u.s. help too late to stabilize iraq? want to discuss now with former u.s. ambassador to nato, he's nicholas burns, also now with the kennedy school of government of harvard. thank you for joining us, ambassador burns. >> thank you, jim. >> so i was reading your editorial, which came out of your conversations with former secretaries of state rice and albright as well as former defense secretary bob gates. and you all seem to agree that the combination of the crisis in iraq and syria and ukraine is really the defining moment of the obama presidency. and i just wonder, do you think that the policy response from the white house is up to that challenge? is it meeting the challenge? >> well, those are my words in a boston globe op-ed last week, jim. i think this is the most important period for obama's foreign policy. president obama's foreign policy. in iraq, if the isis -- if the isis islamic state advance cannot be halted, there is the
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possibility that iraq will be further weakened. it could disintegrate. that would have profound implications for the rest of the middle east and of course for united states interests and of course in russia, president putin is drawing new lines in ukraine, he's dividing europe. he's continuing to supply the ukrainian rebels, the russian separatist rebels, i should say in ukraine, with military hardware. so these are, i think, the two most important tests for president obama's foreign policy in his presidency. >> let me ask you, you referenced this in your editorial and you and i talked about this before, there is a perception of u.s. disengagement and lack of influence in both of these conflicts. do you think that's fair? >> i think there is a general perception, a narrative, if you will, across the world of the united states is no longer acting with as much self-confidence and energy and leadership as it has in the past. the president does have an opportunity in these two crises to counteract that. and i think particularly in iraq, where the fighting has
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gone better in recent days for the peshmerga, the kurdish forces against the united states, the united states is stepping up its actions. the u.s. air strikes over the weekend were pivotal according to all the news reports in pushing back the isis fighters and with prime minister maliki's resignation, there is now a chance to give much more military assistance to the iraqi government and to have the sunni leaders play a bigger role in supporting that government. so i think the united states does have an opportunity to do better in iraq and to reinforce the iraqi state. and in russia, of course, the real test is whether the sanctions put forward by the united states and european union can persuade president putin, the price is too high for him to continue arming and funding these separatists. >> let me ask you about ukraine. wasn i want to get back to iraq. talking about ukraine, to this pointe ed
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point, while the costs have gone up, there has been further military action in ukraine. there has been escalation, not de-escalation. in fact, the ukrainian president has called the most recent action an invasion. u.s. not going that far. but is u.s. policy working in ukraine? it doesn't seem to be deinterrogadeterring the russian president. >> there was a major development over the weekend, jim, that is that the ukrainian government retook control of the center of luhansk. there are lots of reports that some of the russian ethnic leaders who have been leading the insurgency in eastern ukraine have left and gone back to russia over the last several days. it does look like the momentsome with the ukrainian government in reasserting sovereignty in eastern ukraine, retaking some of the key checkpoints in donetsk and luhansk. and that way i think the president's policy has been the right policy. he is not introduced american military forces and i think there would be very little public support for that. but he has now pushed the
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europeans to do more on sanctions. and the president has an opportunity at the nato summit in two weeks' time to reinforce the nato allies that are on the front lines of the conflict, romania and poland, estonia, latvia and lithuania. it may be we're beginning to see president obama's policy is working in ukraine. >> let me ask you about iraq. you have air strikes over the weekend around mosul helping apparently to retake the dam. the president said there is military action there granted from the air not the ground, it will take months, not weeks. the iraqi military hasn't proven up to the task. do the american people, do our viewers have to prepare for the u.s. military to be involved in iraq for the long haul going forward? >> well, i think president obama has been clear that this is not going to be a repetition of the iraq war when we had 150,000 american troops in iraq, when we fought a ground war. the president said he's going to lose air power to try to knock back the islamic state fighters,
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assist both the iraqi military and the kurdish peshmerga forces to retake the city of mosul and they essentially retook mosul dam this morning, a very important spot, 30 miles west of mosul. mosul is the second largest city in iraq. and so if the peshmerga and iraqi forces can take it from the islamic state, that will be a major victory. i don't think we'll see a repetition of what the united states did from 2003 to 2008 in iraq, but it is very important that the u.s. use its air power to try to strike at the islamic state forces. they're a threat, not only to iraq, but to syria. and they're also a threat to the united states and europe because there are thousand of fighters there, many hundreds of whom may have western passports. we don't want to see them intill tra infiltrated to our society, trained as terrorists. there are good reasons why the president has done what he's done, but i think are limits -- he imposes limits on the scale
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of american effort. >> thanks very much, ambassador nick burns joining us from rhode island. great to have you on the air. coming up next on "new day," another night of clashes in ferguson, missouri. the governor sending in the national guard. the very latest from don lemon on the ground in ferguson right after this. ♪ so nice, so ni-i-i-ce ♪ st. croix, full of pure vibes ♪ ♪ so nice, so ni-i-i-ce ♪ st. john, a real paradise ♪ so nice, so ni-i-i-ce ♪ proud to be from the virgin islands ♪ ♪ and the whole place nice to experience your virgin islands nice, book one of our summer packages today.
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you can almost feel the intensity on the streets of ferguson, missouri. welcome, once again, everyone, to "new day." august 18th, 8:00 in the east now. chris is on his way to ferguson. jim sciutto is here with us this morning. we're following the breaking news out of missouri. the national guard has been ordered to ferguson after clashes intensified between riot police and protesters over the shooting death of michael brown. the anger boiling over as a private autopsy requested by the teenager's family revealed that the unarmed -- the unarmed 18-year-old was shot at least six times. >> the teen was hit in the front of the body and this could be
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key, not the back. twice in the head and four times in his right arm, findings suggested the shots were fired from far away since no gunpowder was found. two autopsies found on brown so far, one more remains from the u.s. department of justice. we want to go to don lemon who witnessed much of this and what transpired over the last several nights. incredible to see the scenes, soldiers it looks like, they're policemen but they look like soldiers. it must have been incredible to witness. >> it was incredible to witness. speaking of soldiers, the national guard is coming in. it is going to look even more militarized jim and kate. it is a case of bad characters really wrecking what started as peaceful protests, helping it spin way out of control. police in riot gear taking on protesters with tear gas and rubber bullets. the trouble started hours before a curfew was to begin and it
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lasted well into the night, well after people were supposed to go home, supposed to be in their homes. police say molotov cocktails were thrown at them and some protesters opened fire in their direction. now, two civilians were shot, but authorities are saying that the bullets were fired by demonstrators. and president barack obama keeping updated on all of the -- what is going on here today at the white house. in a moment, we're going to give the police perspective when the president of the st. louis county police association joins me here live. we're going to go first to cnn's george howell who has been on the scene as well. he's been caught in some of this and he's been witnessing a lot of what has been going on. what are you seeing? >> don, good morning. here at what you could call ground zero of all of the unrest we have seen here over the last several days, the qt that was burned to the ground and if you look over here, you see all of the debris left over from another night of unrest.
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i want to bring in britney banks. thank you for talking to me. you were here a moment ago. tell people what you're doing. >> picking up trash. picking up trash. i'm only about two miles down, and, you know it is an unfortunate situation, but i don't think the individuals of ferguson should have to drive to work every morning seeing their city being trashed. >> britney, thank you very much. we saw this play out overnight. here's what happened. peaceful protests turned into chaos overnight, leaving two people wounded by civilian gunfire according to police. officers in riot gear, firing smoke and tear gas canisters into crowds ahead of the midnight curfew after police say some protesters turned violent. children and families were scene among the crowd. at times protesters returning tear gas canisters toward police. and others trying to recover
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from the gas fired into the crowds. >> the situation first started to deteriorate with a shooting of a civilian. we quickly responded with additional officers to reach the victim and got them to a safe position. that was followed by shots being fired on officers, a number of molotov cocktails being hurled and the looting. >> but protesters say otherwise. >> we were peaceful. this is unacceptable and this is not the law. >> reporter: violence erupting as a preliminary autopsy report done by the family's own private pathologist, dr. michael baden, reveals brown was shot at least six times, twice in the head, and four times in the arm. baden adding all of the bullets entered from the front, contradicting some eyewitness accounts that brown was shot in the back. also in the report, no trace of gunpowder residue found on the 1-year-old's clothing, which
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suggests brown was shot from a distance, not up close. dr. baden says until he can examine the clothing himself, we won't know for sure. >> this video obtained by cnn shows an up close look at the aftermath from that day. officer darren wilson accused of shooting the teen appears to be to the right. earlier sunday, michael brown's family grieved before a crowded church, at the justice for michael brown rally. >> michael brown was not just some young black boy. he was a human being. he was not an animal. but that's how he was killed. >> reporter: the service was meant to honor their son and to demand justice. >> they want to know that they will have their day in court, that the killer of their child would be held accountable to the full extent of the law.
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>> reporter: another night of unrest hijacking the message of many protesters who are just trying to send a message. again, we know at least several people, two people were shot, several people were arrested and, again, another day where children will not be able to go to school because of fears of more unrest, don. >> unbelievable. george howell, thank you. appreciate your reporting. stand by. i want to bring in gabe crocker, we'll get the police side of the story. president of the st. louis county police association. thank you for joining us. first, let's get to the national guard coming in. because you were critical of having the missouri highway patrol come in. you thought that wasn't handled properly. >> i thought that was an unfriendly takeover of the situation due to political pressure on our governor and certain local leaders. now what we have seen here -- >> before you go to that, do you think usurped the local police powers? >> i think it was an inappropriate response. i think it would have been nicer
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for our governor to come in and utilize his resources to join ours rather than have a situational takeover. >> now the national guard. >> i think it goes right against what the governor and some of the other leaders have said from the beginning where they were hoping to demilitarize the situation, now they're calling in the national guard. i think that kind of goes to support what i've said from the very beginning, which is that the st. louis county police department is doing a great job, and we could have used those resources, we could have worked together. >> you saw it devolve last night into tear gas and all of that. what do you think of the demonstrations? what is escalating? >> i'm not sure. i think a couple of things. i think there were some comments by some local leaders yesterday that could have caused this situation to kind of uprise. certainly the autopsy results that were released last night could have enflamed certain crowd members. but, again, i always like to delineate the difference between peaceful protesters, folks out there, having their voices heard. >> majority -- >> the majority of those folks that are out there, they have every right to be upset. we have police officers out
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there, they're upset. we understand that. but there are those people out there that are really trying to devolve the situation into looting and rioting and violence. >> what do you think was enflamtory about the local comments and what are you speaking of specifically? >> there is local leaders enflaming both sides of the situation. i've seen certain twitter feeds and facebook postings by politicians in the area calling for this officer to be arrested. but yet asking for justice to move forward at the same time. so i find it quite hypocritical that some of the local leaders will call for this officer to be immediately arrested and tried and charged when really the investigation is still ongoing. it is unfair. it is too fast. it is too soon. and i also think that, you know, i saw some of the footage from some of the individuals speaking to crowds yesterday of protesters where, you know, again, they're saying things that may not be true, they're saying things that they can't back up with facts. and they're inciting the crowd that way by putting information out there that simply isn't true. >> all the facts aren't in at
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the moment. it is going to be quite some time before they are. >> absolutely. >> so i spoke to you about, you know, the guys out in tactical gear and some of the things that were used last night, tear gas. people are concerned about that they are in an overmilitarized situation. and by bringing the national guard in, more of a militarized situation. do you think that will serve to enflame or to quell some of the violence that is happening. >> i don't know. i just heard about the national guard coming in this morning. i don't know what purpose -- or are what role the national guard is going to serve. they can certainly come in and be actively involved in the crowd control efforts or suppressing looters and violent acts or they might be working more of a perimeter type detail which would free up more local resources to handle those crowds. i am concerned about the term overmilitarized being used quite often. it is really gaining a lot of popularity. i want to be careful about how we -- >> why? >> because in the last ten to 15 years what we have seen is
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certainly, you know, you know, the events of 9/11, increases in school shootings and violent encounters in workplaces and mass shootings. and so some of that equipment and some of those resources are very commonly used in those situations. they're not very -- very rarely, don, are they ever used just for regular patrol. >> let's get to the autopsy. i mentioned you said if you thought -- you didn't think the autopsy results should be released, the initial autopsy results should be released so soon? you thought that enflamed the situation? >> it is not my opinion whether or not they should or shouldn't have been, but they were, and now we have to deal with that. >> so as a member of the police department, what do you think of where the shots were, at least six shots and also kill shot they are saying, shots to the head. >> i'm not a forensic pathologist, but what i can tell you from a law enforcement view is it is my belief right away we have already eliminated quite a few witness statements from that day that were saying repeatedly
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that, you know that was a problem early on, folks coming forward with stories that weren't accurate or true, so now what you have is a lot of those statements have been eliminated or shown to be false to some level. people see what they see and they may report what they see, but we know that's not always accurate. >> right. >> the president of the st. louis county police association gabe crocker, thank you very much. kate, again, we'll be out here, jim, we'll be out here. there is the family attorneys holding a press conference and new information released throughout the day and we will be here. >> sure has been a lot of new information just overnight. you were up very late. we have seen the video of it. you were also in the middle of it. some of those protests last night, what did you see? we all -- as from the perspective of the police association, one account is not everyone's account, sure. but what did you see? it is important. >> it is important, because i was on the scene and so i am a witness to a lot of it.
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when my producer and i arrived last night just before the curfew went into effect, obviously we saw a very heavy police presence. as we arrived to the scene, we tried to get to an area that was cordoned off and get to the perimeter of that so we can find a place to go. as we drove up, we were in a parking lot and we heard shots. at least six shots. and we drove up and the police officer pointed a gun at us, with a flashlight on it and said stop wherever you're going, hands up, we put our hands up and said we are with cnn, we're member of the media and the state police backed down and said, okay, i need you to go over there, park there, we get to that place, another police officer, same thing, with the gun, with the flashlight on it, hands up, get out of the area, we said that police officer over there told us to come over, we're members of the media, immediately again backed down. moments later they said we have been told by the state that the
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hot zone that you're in now, everyone needs to be evacuated and cleared and we immediately left. we had been issued just, you know, this for us, when we're not with the police and we're not with some of the officers out there this is just to protect us from rubber bullets that may be going off. again, if the situation becomes very violent, we don't stay. we get out. we do what the police tell us. and this is what every single person of our team and every single person who is with law enforcement, they're wearing these. we put these on because there have been obviously we have seen gas that has been, you know, hurled into the crowd to try to disperse them and molotov cocktails, this won't protect us from that, but, again, we're having to take these precautions and every member of law enforcement taking these precautions as well. last night, you know, i hate to say this, i want to be extremely cautious about the language, but it felt like a city under siege.
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not only under siege from the heavy militarized presence that it felt like, but also under siege from some of the residents, some of the people who were there, who were causing problems. some of the people who are causing the problems and not the good folks, not the law abiding citizens who have every right to protest, the majority of them, but it felt like the community was being terrorized by those people. the good citizens of this community trying to do a good thing and bring light to a situation that needs light shown on it. and that's being overshadowed by people who are looting, stealing, setting off molotov cocktails, shooting at people. it really is disgusting to see and embarrassing not only for the citizens, not only for the man in charge, ron johnson, but also for the family and the legacy of michael brown. kate? >> absolutely. and that's an important note to end on. it also changes the situation on a dime there on the ground.
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that's why you have to be prepared. and when you think you're in the safe zone, you end up being in the hot zone in the next second. don, thanks so much. we'll get back to you throughout the show. talk to you in a little bit. up next on "new day," one ferguson native is well known to many americans. we'll speak with cedric the entertainer, get his take on what it is like to be from the area and also what it is like now to look at this unfolding before our eyes. and a cnn exclusive, new video from the shooting of michael brown that shows officer darren wilson at the scene. we'll hear from the eyewitness who shot that video. [announcer] play close-good and close. help keep teeth clean and breath fresh with beneful healthy smile snacks. with soft meaty centers and teeth cleaning texture,it's dental that tastes so good. beneful healthy smile food and snacks. hey, i heard you guys can help me with frog protection? yeah, we help with fraud protection. we monitor every purchase every day and alert you if anything looks unusual. wow! you're really looking out for us. we are.
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welcome back to "new day." i'm don lemon live in ferguson, missouri. the national guard we're hearing headed this way after another spike in chaos overtook the city last night. for most of us, what we see of ferguson on television is all we know about this city. but for those who call it home, for those who call it home, the last week has torn a hole in the heart of this community. and one person who knows this area really well is my next guest, cedric the entertainer. he calls ferguson his hometown. he joins us now live this morning from los angeles via skype. good morning to you, cedric. i'm so glad to hear your voice. what do you make of the events that have unfolded? you've been watching them. i'm sure your heart is broken by a lot of it. >> yeah, good morning, don. first of all, yeah, my heart is broken by this, of course. the loss of mike brown and to
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his family, and i just think to watch this degree of national attention on my city like that, to see this violence being escalated between the police and the citizens is nerve wracking and it is disheartening to see it continue on for this many days. >> what do you make now that the national guard is being brought in? initially, you know, ron johnson, who you know, was wrought in and t brought in and the violence stopped for a couple of days and now it spiked again. what do you make of the national guard coming in and what do you make of the situation now with ron johnson? >> well, i think it is a catch-22. one, i've been knowing ron johnson many years, he's a serious person, i think it was the right call to bring him in at the time. it was able to de-escalate the situation, those initially. but i do feel that there is a
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large group, st. louis is a very racially divided city. and i think that this, you know, the police on one side and some of the citizens feeling like they're actually on the other side is what is causing this problem, why it continues to be this us against them mentality and not specifically to the officer who should be questioned about the actions he took against mike brown. >> mm-hmm. you're right. i live in st. louis for a while, it is a very racially divided town. people may not realize that. there is -- everyone will admit, the police department, every member at least the brass from the police department from the county to the city to ferguson will admit there is some -- they have to -- they have soul searching to do. what should police do, not only police, but also the community, to try to get this community back together again?
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>> well, i think, you know, again, i heard one of the police commissioners you talked to earlier explain. i think that right now it feels like the officer in question is being protected by the blue line that if this situation was the opposite, if a person had attacked the police and they knew exactly who that person was, and they could -- there was any question that there was, you know, a question of guilt or doubt, that person would be in charge, would be under arrest, or would be being questioned right now. right now, it feels as though the young man had no weapon, he was shot six times, and the officer is being protected by other officers. so it just feels as though this is what the people -- the outcry is all about. all about the justice of what the appearance is and where the person is right now. and why hasn't this person been charged or brought in for
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questioning. why can't they get to the results or to the bottom line of this nine, ten days later. again, if this was a regular citizen, and they knew exactly who it was, he would have been arrested immediately and then he would have had to defend himself from there. but right now, this officer is being protected by the situation and this is what got -- this is what has the young people upset so much. this is why they feel like they're constantly under attack in the city of st. louis when it comes to officer stops, when it comes to being profiled. this is what -- this is why, you know, the leaders can't get this fraction of folks under control. they are upset about it. it happens more often than not. if someone is not necessarily shot or killed, then it is not reported. but it happens more often than not and this is what, you know, the whole kind of underground anarchy is all about toward what i'm understanding from the people i'm talking to. they just mad about it.
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and that's what they -- and they want something to happen, and they need to see some results. i think the officials have to try to say what they're going to do about the problem, about the six shots, about the officer in question, and show the people that they are trying to solve this problem as opposed to continuing to attack the people who are protesting. >> and cedric, you mentioned young people. you have a son. i wonder if you worry about him growing up as a young black man in america and if you're concerned about him being stopped by police. do you have that conversation with him? >> yes, indeed. my son is 13. but i also have it with my daughter, i have a 25-year-old daughter right there in st. louis right now. and that is -- that is something that, again, in a city that is so racially zrdivided, where th power sources are so one group higher than the other, you know, it is something i am very
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concerned with, raising a child in america about you just being able to comply. but even if you comply, that person still has the right or feel he has the right to dictate his authority any way he pleases at anytime. and that is the thing that is being very questionable right now. and i think that these are the kind of, you know, the messages that we try to get across to our kids to comply with the police officers, but, again, in these short -- these sometimes instances when the officer takes it upon his own authority to be the -- to be the ultimate authority, you know, it is hard to, you know, question someone, you know, rising up against you. >> you know, cedric, it is so important that your voice be heard as someone who comes from this community and someone who really has a platform and people listen to you and has authority. i really appreciate you coming on. anytime you want to come back, we will have you.
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thank you, cedric. >> thanks, don. i want people to abide by the laws, though. right now, keep calm. do what the family says, st. louis. >> all right. thank you, cedric the entertainer. and, kate, you know, his voice is very important. very important that someone like cedric the entertainer be heard. he has a lot of influence and a lot of power and you hear him calling for peace. he says abide by the law, st. louis. back to you, guys. >> that's the important message that seems to be said over and over, but has not yet been heard obviously enough quite yet. don. >> you get a sense from a conversation like that, this ferguson event is really just scratching the surface of a larger conversation about race. >> absolutely. >> visions, hopes, dreams, segregation, you name it. >> and cedric got to that very well. greet have his voice there. up next on "new day," cnn exclusive for you, video shows officer darren wilson at the scene of michael brown's shooting. the eyewitness who took this video is going to tell us what she saw. >> did the white house ignore
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all right, let's bring in the five things you need to know for your "new day." we start with missouri's governor sending in the national guard. after clashes intensify in ferguson, missouri, anger overflowing, the family autopsy revealed that michael brown was shot at least six times. in iraq, the u.s. launching more than a dozen air strikes against isis militants. president obama says the military action is needed to protect u.s. personnel. the clock is ticking for israeli and palestinian negotiators. a five-day cease-fire ends tonight. indirect negotiations between the two sides continue in cairo. egyptian mediators are trying to
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get the deadline pushed once again. pope francis wrapping up his first visit to asia with a mass of reconciliation in seoul. he challenged north and south korea to work to find new ways to resolve their differences. president obama is back in washington for the day. he left his vacation for briefings on iraq and ferguson, missouri. he's scheduled to return to his vacation in martha's vineyard tomorrow. we update the five things to know. visit newday.cnn.com for the latest. now breakig news out of iraq and the battle for a strategic dam that supplies power to millions and the water behind it could threaten the lives of millions. the u.s. launching moren th ini dozen air strikes helping kurdish fighters on the ground. cnn's nick paton walsh made his way to that dam. do we know is in control of it now? >> what i'm seeing here and behind me is the best view, really, we had so far of water and the dam itself. now, step out of the shot here,
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so that our cameraman can zoom in closer. you can see the plume of black smoke, it is joined occasionally by other plumes of black smoke. i should add pretty much all this morning as we have gone around this area, gone around christian villages, talking to people who have been fleeing, once to a monastery in one case, simply for their lives. we heard the roar of jets in the sky. clearly u.s. firepower being brought in. we're not sure if they're being used near this dam. because it is a very fragile piece of infrastructure, but clearly in evidence throughout the area to heavy weapons being used here now. in terms of what people are saying, this dam, to the left of that piece of black smoke you're seeing, that is pretty much where the kurdish forces, peshmerga have advanced to. to the right of it, that is still held by isis. front lines changing of course. we don't have complete clarity of how successful this battle
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has been so far. but the key worry is that this idea it would have taken a matter of hours. now we're talking about days. a lot of firepower being used and you can see hundreds of thousands of metric tons of water being held back by this piece of infrastructure. >> jim? >> thanks to nick paton walsh on the ground. it looks like that fight is still going on, possibly air strikes still going on. >> a dozen air strikes or so, we'll see exactly what happens coming up on that. also coming up next on "new day," exclusive new video from the scene where michael brown was shot and killed by a police officer. you see it right there. an eyewitness provided the video, only to cnn. you're also going to hear her reaction to what she saw play out before her eyes next. oh! the name your price tool! you tell them how much you want to pay, and they help you find a policy that fits your budget. i told you to wear something comfortable! this is a polyester blend!
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welcome back to "new day." we're watching breaking news overnight. the national guard being deployed to try and keep the peace in ferguson, missouri. this after another night of intense protests over the shooting of unarmed teenager michael brown. early this morning, i had the opportunity to speak with page crenshaw, an eyewitness to the shooting. she provided exclusive video of the immediate aftermath to us here at cnn. she joined me here with her attorney and described what she saw. i am so glad to speak to you. you were there that night, you
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can tell us from a very different perspective what went on because you witnessed it all. you waited until now to release this video. why is that? >> well, because, more importantly concerned with my safety, of course, and because the media didn't release the name until several days after it happened. so -- >> the officer. >> yes, darren wilson, put the name with the face and i think this is relative information of most people. >> you mentioned you were concerned about your safety. do you have reason to fear? >> well, i didn't, but just, you know, thoughts from my attorney maybe i should just -- >> what is going through your mind as this all is happening. take me back to the moment. why did you feel a need to record what was going on outside the window? >> okay, from it all initially happening, i knew this was not right. i knew -- i knew the police shouldn't have been chasing this young boy and firing at the same time. and the fact he got shot in his face, it was something that clicked in me, like, somebody
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else needs to see this. this isn't right, i got to record. >> you pulled out your cell phone cam are and started rolling. how long after it all happened? you saw the whole scenario play out, right? >> yes, ma'am. but i waited a good 30 seconds, i had to run in my house, get my phone, i had to put on the camera and just start recording what i saw. >> walk me through that. >> 30 seconds. so what we're looking at is officer darren wilson to the right. he's just looking over the body, just looking baffled and bewildered of sorts, like, trying to explain to the officer what had i just done. and then we get this picture of him pacing back and forth just, like, in disbelief, so, like, it is like he -- it is like he understands he just shot this boy in the face and that this boy was unarmed. and to me, this video, seems relative for this time period, especially including the fact that chief jackson said that the
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reason that this video wasn't even on the media at the time when it should have been is because he wanted to get all the information out the same time, you know, under the freedom of information act, but they could have easily given these videos as well because they confiscated my phone. >> let's go back to that in a second. they -- so take me back to the moment when you see a tussle at the police cruiser. what was going on? what happened? >> okay, well, from my point of view, i cannot tell exactly what was going on, but it looked as if he was trying to pull him almost into the car -- >> the officer pulled michael into the car? >> it looked like he was trying to do such. and brown being a bigger fellow, that didn't seem to be working. he got away. and then just seemed to have upset the officer. >> and then what happened? >> got out his -- and started chasing after the boy. i'm hearing shots fired. clearly none of them hit him. but one did graze him as they said in the autopsy report.
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and at the end, he just turned around after i'm guessing he felt the bullet graze his arm, he turned around and he was shot multiple times. >> the autopsy is now showing that he was shot from the front, not the back. >> exactly. >> ask does that scare with what you saw? >> definitely. he was runni ning away. when he turned toward the cop, that's when he let off the most shots. >> let's go to the point, i hear your voice, you sound really upset. >> i haven't even lived there a month. i had just moved there, out of my parents' home. to see something like this outside of my window, as i'm trying to go to work, it is traumatizing. >> what have you made of the ferguson police department? have you ever seen them on the streets, interacting with any of the officers before, prior to this incident? >> yes, at first i did feel comfortable living in my apartment because there was a police presence around constantly. police driving up and down the streets, you know, the crime is
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a little more over there. but now it just doesn't seem like you can trust them. >> then the police take your cell phone from you, take the video. >> yes. >> how did that all happen? >> okay, well, from my point of view, as soon as they start putting the yellow tape around, the family starts coming up just screaming and asking what happened. nobody is giving them answers. me and my boss were like we saw everything. we're on top of my balcony, we saw everything. and, of course, i guess the police are standing there too, so they brought us all down for questioning. which then myself almost confiscated for the video. >> how long did it take to get the phone back? >> it happened saturday. they told me i would get it back on monday but i didn't get it back until later on tuesday. >> you just moved to this area a month ago. you had all of this happen. you witnessed the death of the young man. i know this has been a really traumatizing time for you. i appreciate you coming out to speak to us. a big thank you to your attorney for coming along to provide some support to you. we wish you well, okay?
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thank you so much for speaking to us and giving thus video to help tell the story. >> no problem. >> you barely caught that, she said she wants justice for michael brown. it is interesting, talked to her in the green room afterwards and she mentioned it felt as though a really big storm cloud had descended over her city and she hopes it can clear so they can take a look at what happened and investigate it and, again, find justice for michael brown. she just moved there. i was saying this to you, she just moved out of her parents' home, first month on her own, and this happens. >> she's a teenager, 19, 18. >> yeah. >> caught up in something. >> incredible poise considering what she's been through. >> that's right. we'll take a short break on "new day." new suggestions that the white house may have ignored early warnings about isis spreading from syria to iraq. we'll discuss all of. so i can reach ally bank 24/7, but there are no branches?
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welcome back to "new day." u.s. air strikes are helping kurdish forces on the ground in iraq as they try to regain control of a crucial dam in mosul that fsupplies power to millions. president obama is defending the strikes. how much of the events playing out today in iraq is in part a result of poor decision-making in the white house earlier? well, in consideration of syria. and is the american help too little too late now? let's talk about it with a former u.s. ambassador to syria, robert fordham. great to have you.
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thanks for coming in. >> my pleasure. >> you made pretty clear to the daily beast josh rogan in a piece that the warnings of the isis surge were there. and were made pretty plain -- plainly made to the white house. did you feel like you were ignored? >> the state department made clear to others in the united states government, in 2012, that there was an extremist element growing in syria. drawing help from iraq at the time. and that if there was a power vacuum, especially in eastern syria, we would have a huge problem. and, in fact, that he's what we said in 2012 and that's what has happened today. that's a matter of history and the record. the bigger question, i think, now is going forward, given what has happened in iraq, and what is going on in syria, what can the administration do to contain the islamic state, which is clearly a threat.
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>> well, what is your prescription if you will? what do you think the united states can and should do at this point to contain it? do you think at this point they're in a position of too little, too late? >> no, i do not think it is too little too late, far from it. they have had some success in iraq over the past week, as you just mentioned. they seem to have blunted the islamic state's advance in northern iraq. american air strikes combined with friendly fighters on the ground, kurdish fighters, and also iraqi special forces fighters and it is interesting that the kurds and iraqi special forces are fighting together. i suspect that's being done with american coordination and that's a good sign. there is some success in iraq. the real question then is some success in iraq, but the problem is also in syria and what do you do about syria now? >> i want to ask you about that. i need to get your take.
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the president's remarks in an interview with the new york times has gotten a lot of attention. when he said that it is always been a fantasy that arming the rebels in syria, the moderate opposition would have made a difference. what do you make of that? >> it is simply something -- it is a policy debate. but i think the record is clear that the syrian uprising in 2012 was dominated not by extremists, but by moderate people. they needed help because the extremist element i mentioned which was growing in 2012, had better funding coming up from friends and private circles in the gulf, the moderates pleaded with us for money and for weapons to compete for recruits with the extremist groups. they did not get that help. and the extremists, not a surprise, with their money, were able to get recruits and were able to grow. >> well, you said to christiane amanpour after you left your post, i was no longer in a
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position where i felt i could defend the american policy. you went on to say that we have been unable to address either the root causes of the conflict in terms of fighting on the ground, and on the balance on the ground. so in your mind, is there really even a policy debate about this question of is it a fantasy in terms of what the president thinks? because you think you're right? >> well, there is a debate going on in washington right now. but i think it is incumbent on those to say there is nothing we can do in syria to then say how do you address the national security threat emanating from syria in the form of the islamic state and other al qaeda linked extremists. you cannot ignore it given what we have had in our own history, dating back to 9/11 and other threats to america national security since then. in iraq, what we see is forces, friendly to us, with our help, have been able to blunt much of what the islamic state has done.
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i think that same approach needs to be taken in syria. >> what is the hesitancy in your view coming from you were on the inside, what is the hesitancy within the administration to do just that? >> well, i don't pretend to speak for the president and the senior leadership now. i've retired. i think the real question will be for them, a, identifying the right friendly forces and there are certainly many on the ground, so there is going to be some analytical work that can be done, but that analytical work can be done. and, second, mobilizing the resources of the united states government to channel the assistance, much as we have done in iraq. it does not require american forces to put boots on the ground in syria, far, far from it. >> one question has been all along how much of a threat is isis? isis is clearly a threat to the region. but from your perspective, how much of a threat to the united states is isis?
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>> well, i don't think the united states is the islamic state of's number one target now. the islamic state's number one target right now is the shia led government in baghdad and the moderate opposition, what is left of it, in syria. so -- but over the medium term, the islamic state has already publicly stated, look at their twitter feeds, for example, they're very open about the fact that they intend to bring jihad at some point to europe and to the united states itself. i take them at their word. >> the fighting continues on the ground for a key dam to regain control of the key dam in mosul that we're seeing it all play out in real time. ambassador robert ford, thank you, mr. ambassador. great to have you here. >> my pleasure. >> of course. >> coming up next on "new day," the very latest from ferguson. the national guard is on the way. will more are policing help or hurt a community that is already in such turmoil? that's next. hey. i'm ted and this is rudy.
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thank you for joining me. we begin with breaking news overnight as national guard troops are ordered into the streets of ferguson, missouri. >> disperse the area immediately. gunfire, tear gas, molotov cocktails light up the night sky. several people hurt. and days of protests plunged the city closer to chaos. with ferguson often resembling a combat zone, missouri's governor deployed the national guard to restore peace. but tensions are escalating after the family of michael brown releases preliminary results of this autopsy. it shows the unarmed african-american teenager was shot six times, including twice in the head by the white police officer. brown's family due to speak next hour. and just minutes from now, we'll hear from the woman who witnessed the shooting and captured exclusive video. you're looking at it right now. this morning both police and protesters fear the violence is spiraling out of control.

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