tomorrow out front, an exclusive investigation on the militarization of the police in america. why weapons meant for the battle field are in the hands of police officers. officers. anderson starts now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com good evening from ferguson tonight. a new witness speaks out that ended with michael brown dead in a street just about three or four blocks from here and this small city in the national spotlight. >> by the time i gets outside, he's already turned around, facing the officer. he, he's, he have his arms under his stomach and half way down like he was going down and the officer lets out about three or four shots at him. >> as you know, this are a lot

of different eyewitness reports this one you'll hear coming up, that man is michael bradley. he spoke with us on a day that saw the attorney general meet here with top investigators and officials and especially michael brown's parent whose will bury their son on monday. we'll talk about the visit and the family's concern shortly and concerns being expressed as we speak by protesters at the county prosecutor's office about his ability to prosecute this case and you'll hear more in just a short moment from mr. brady's account of the shooting, one of many as 360's randi kaye reports. >> reporter: a confrontation at officer darron wilson's police car and then shots fired. for those who claim to know what happened to michael brown, that's about all they agree on. at least three eyewitnesss remember a scuffle at the officer's car. though an anonymous woman who did not witness the shooting but a friend of the officers says michael brown was the aggressor, which cnn confirmed matches the account officer wilson gave

authorities. >> michael bum rushes him, shoves him back into his car, punches him in the face and then then grabs for his gun, michael grabs the gun, shoves it away and the gun goes off. >> reporter: also in dispute was brown shot from behind or was he charging officer wilson? it's still unclear. tiffany mitchell told cnn brown was on the run. >> as he runs, the police get out of his vehicle and he follows behind him shooting and the kid body jerked as if he was hit from behind. >> reporter: this woman who took cell phone video of brown's body in the street told cnn brown was shot from behind. >> while he was running away from the officer trying to get away, he was getting shot at. >> reporter: johnson said he was shot. >> he put his hands up and told the officer he was unarmed and

stop shooting but at that time the officer was firing several more shots into my friend and he hit the brown and died. >> reporter: in a new interview with the new york times, johnson's lawyer said brown's hands were quote not that high. when npr asked bosley about brown charging the officer, he explained it this way. >> big mike did fall forward, okay, so people may be able to infer that the officer may have thought he was charging but didn't according to dorian charge the officer. >> reporter: that's not exactly how the anonymous radio caller describe's brown's final moment. joe see said the officer yelled to brown to freeze and that is when brown turned around. in other words, he turned around before the officer started shooting. she said brown then suddenly rushed at the officer. >> he just started coming at him full speed and so he just started shooting and he just kept coming and then so he finally ended up final shot was in the forehead. >> reporter: adding to the confusion, yet another anonymous

witness who said he heard brown screaming at the officer okay, okay, okay with his hands up. that's when this witness says the officer fired six or seven shots into the teenager. then laid his gun on the ground. randi kaye, cnn, new york. >> certainly a lot we do not know. it's important to stress that over and over again. it is just little past 7:00 p.m. here in ferguson, still light but the light is going down, probably by the end of this hour. the crowds have been pretty light throughout the day in this area. certainly the lightest that we have seen in the past ten days or so. there have been some smaller demonstrations elsewhere, as well, but more people are starting to come here, people leave their jobs, people come here, there is a small group walking around as you know, the police insist that protesters continue to keep moving, not stand in anyone's spot. this is a group of maybe 50 of the most protesters who are here

carrying signs chanting and they are basically walking up and down a four or five block area. there is obviously heavy police presence as there always is but probably less noticeable than even last night. police changing their tactics somewhat last night. they were more spread out, less police officers in tactical gear, some violence did break out late at night, more than some 47 people were arrested but it was overall a far more peaceful evening than the previous evening was certainly. i want to give you more on michael brady's account of what happened. he's the eyewitness i spoke to just a short time ago and what it shares with and how it differs from other accounts. with other accounts, we're playing an extended clip of the interview with mr. brady who was within view of the shooting sight. remember, we have given you many eyewitness accounts from people in the community, as well as from that radio caller, which supports the officer's account. we're trying to collect as many

as we can. you can judge for yourself the credibility of them and how their stories seem to contradict each other or validate each other. we spoke a short time ago to mr. brady, take a look. so when did you first realize something was happening? >> this was a little bit of 1 0 11:30ish. a friend of mine woke me up out of a nap. he comes over and i steps outside for three to five minutes. after that i comes in, say something to my fiancee in the kitchen and then i goes into the bedroom but then the two men is in the bedroom. i hear an altercation outside, and -- >> what did you hear? >> just some heavy struggling, like a strong voice, like a strong voice. i'm not sure what words exchanged exactly but just a strong voice. >> so what did you do then? >> so when i heard the altercation, i looks out the window and i see somebody at

ferguson police window, some kind of tussle going on here. so -- >> so you saw somebody at the window of the police car? >> yes. >> the police officer was still in the vehicle. >> yeah, inside the vehicle. so like i said, it was some kind of tussle going on. he also had a friend, also. he runs on the side of the car because all of a sudden, he just takes off running. after the tussle, they just takes off running. >> did you know mike brown? >> no, no -- >> i seen him. i seen him, you know, around or whatever. >> but it was mike brown at the vehicle? >> yes. >> and you said there was a tussle. was there -- how long did it go on for that you saw? >> seconds, seconds. ten seconds, i should say. >> uh-huh. >> so. >> did you see what the tussle was around? one person being pulled in or out? >> no, he was exactly at the window, i mean, looked like he was trying to get away or something. >> you couldn't tell exactly what was going on? >> yeah, i just seen some kind of tussle through the window.

but like i say, he has a friend also and he was standing like in the front of the police cruiser on the bumper side, on the passenger side but five feet away from it. like i said, all of a sudden they take off running, mr. brown, he just runs directly down to the middle of the street and his friend is a car that was parked on the sidewalk, the ferguson cop his vehicle was on the street diagonal. they take off running. >> had there been a shot when there was still that tussle? >> i didn't hear the shot. i didn't hear the shot. quite a few people that was around say they heard a shot go off in the car -- >> the important thing is what you heard. you did not hear it? >> no, i definitely didn't hear that. >> okay. >> so like i say, his friend takes off running and like i said, the parked car was on the side, on the side, on the sidewalk. and like i say, he just fired like five feet away from the police cruiser in the middle of the street. so like i said, they just takes

off running and i see the officer gets out to the car, emerged and just immediately start shooting. so -- >> you're saying he immediately started shooting. he didn't say anything, he didn't -- >> i didn't hear. i'm still in the window. i'm still in the window. so when he gets out the car, i see the first shot as mr. brown, like i said, he directly in the middle of the street running with his back turned running away probably 20 feet down and his other friend is around the corner, the trunk side of it. so i see him, you know, looking up at the cop just to see where he's at but when he gets out the car, he lets out like one or two shots but at that time he's already past his own police vehicle and mr. brown friend where he ran to, he -- as he was in his gun shooting range, you know, position, he walked past the vehicle to where his friend ran to. so i think that the officer knew

where his friend is but i'm just saying, it's showing me he wasn't shooting at the friend. >> you said there were one or two shots, you think. >> the first one when he gets out. >> did you see if mike brown was hit? >> i don't think he was -- maybe was at the time because like i said, he was 20, 25 feet down. so obviously, he was still running. >> right, because we don't know, the autopsy said there were at least six shots that hit mike brown but we don't know how many shots may have been fired, if there were other shots fired, if other bullet casings were collected we don't know. >> i definitely seen one or two. he still have his back turned and i noticed he passed his friend up to where his friend ran to. so that's when i decided i'm going to run outside with my phone and see what i can get. so i runs outside so quick. by the time i gets outside, he's already turned around facing the officer. he, he's balled up.

he have his arms like under his stomach and he was like half way down like he was going down and the officer lets out about three or four shots at him. so like i said, just like, just like the body, i took a few pictures and a video but how his body is on the ground just like with his arms tucked in, that's how he got shot or whatever. but like i said, before he went down he was already like this and he took one or two step the going towards the officer and he, like i said, let go about three or four more shots -- >> it's your impression that he was essentially falling down onto the ground or going down ton out ground, not -- because there is an account by a friend or allegedly a friend of the officer who said that the officer is claiming and sources with the investigation back this up is what the officer's claim is mike brown was running toward the officer. did you see him running toward the officer in any way? >> no, no -- when he was running

away, no, not at all. by the time i come outside, i'm thinking he's now hit after i seen the officer shooting at him while he was running away. so i'm thinking that he's hit because now he's turned around. now like this, like he was going down. it didn't even look like he was getting up. it just looked like, i'm hit. i'm fixing to go down now. that's what it looked like. >> that was your impression? >> yeah, yeah. >> from what you saw, there weren't hands up -- >> yeah, i really -- that's the thing. i didn't see no hands up. i probably just missed it from going out from my bedroom going outside. >> there was a gap in what you saw. >> and there was a gap from the officer pausing as he was shooting because like i say, i'm in the window and he shoots a couple times and by the time i gets outside, he's shooting again. so i really didn't hear a shot between a run. he probably did, maybe he -- >> you don't know that for a fact. >> this entire thing about how

quickly, from the time you first heard what sounded like a tuesday l and started seeing the tussle to the time mike brown was down on the ground, how long do you think? >> hmmm, hmmm, hmmm, how should i say? it was some seconds, not even a minute. >> it all was quick. >> yeah, it was just quick. it was quick. definitely quick. probably, what, within 30 seconds, 40 seconds maybe. >> one final note, mr. brady has spoken to county investigators he says about what he saw. he's yet to talk to the fbi. just ahead, a police officer here who did not get the memo about calming things down. his threat to a protester caught on tape and what happened to him since. [ woman ] the cadillac summer collection is here.

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fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. looking at live pictures, protesters as the sun goes down and it's been quite a day of developments for people to process. eric holder met with michael brown's parents. protesters calling on the prosecutor to recuse himself. although it was calm last night, videos surfaced of a tense encounter between two protesters and an assault rifle carrying officer of a nearby police force. look at their video of what happened. >> gun ready, gun raised. guns pointed. >> my hands are up, bro. my hands are up. [ bleep ]. >> [ bleep ].

>> get back, get back. [ bleep ]. >> you're going to kill him? >> seconds later when asked for his name, the officer replies go f yourself. he's since been relieved of duty and suspended indefinitely. joining me now, antonio french. you've seen that, did that surprise you at all? >> unfortunately, it didn't surprise me. >> we've seen officers pointing rifles and guns at peaceful protesters. >> we had a few officers out here who have not really been sensitive to the situation. we've had officer tell a woman and her son to go get a job. this is a well employed woman offended by the statement. i think the difference here is that in this case, we did see something happen to that officer immediately and that sends a strong message that at least the folks at the top are getting it. >> it did seem last night the numbers of protesters were down. tonight it looks like they are even down farther. it was largely peaceful last night until later on a water bottle was thrown.

talk about the police tactics because we have seen an evolution in the tactics and last night it seemed like and i talked to a number of pastors, it seemed like they were more in contact with police and have been allowed to be in previous nights by the police. the police were using them as a conduit to people. >> yeah, so we're going into really about the 12th night of this. so we've seen a transformation or a progress of what has been going on and yeah, recently since st. louis city police have gotten involved and the leadership there, they have more experience with large crowd control. what we've seen instead of tear gassing an entire crowd and angering all those folks, especially when children were tear gassed, the police have taken another approach which is to extract the small group of troublemakers. we saw that last night. that's much more successful than punishing the entire crowd. >> how do you think the visit with eric holder was today? >> i think it was good.

people lost faichl in the local prosecutor that they want to see the federal government take a role in this. by the attorney general coming himself. it shows it's at the top of his priority list. >> even if the federal investigation may take a very long period of time? >> yeah, but -- >> and maybe more difficult to bring any kind of federal charges if they bring it all compared to the st. louis investigation. >> i still think that the attorney general's presence matters. i think the president talked about this personally matters. but on the local level, i think people are right and i'm one of them to still call for the governor to replace the county prosecutor. >> you really do not have confidence in this prosecutor? >> no, it's not just about whether i have confidence. the big problem in what we're doing is trying to restore faith in the justice system. what matters is the folks here have faith in the county prosecutor and they don't. so in order to repair the damage that's been done the last ten days is really going to take a special prosecutor to come in.

>> you know, the argument against that is look, this is a prosecutor who has won multiple elections, turn out among african americans is low in those elections and this is what he is supposed to do. he's supposed to be able to prosecute these kind of cases. >> yeah, well, this prosecutor's relationship with the african american community has not been good for a long time. we're coming off a really heated county executive race where the county prosecutor kind of stepped out of his role as an independent and strongly worked against the african american county executive there are a lot of hard feelings -- >> so it goes beyond his connections to law enforcement, his connections. >> people know bob mcculloch and folks are strong saying they don't trust him in this particular case. >> appreciate you being with us. thank you. i want to bring in the legal panel because there is a lot to discuss, jeffrey toobin, mark

geragos and aviva martin. the bar is very high for civil rights case to be brought. isn't that correct? >> absolutely, anderson. the attorney general made it clear that he's looking at whether there was some kind of civil rights violation, a totally different standered based on civil rights violations versus what the state prosecutor is doing is looking to see if some kind of murder or manslaughter charges be brought. i can't stress enough similar to what antonio french said, the presence of the attorney general for this community is so big, the sense that someone outside of the community who is objective and not bias is going to be looking at what the state prosecutor does. i think it's more important than the symbolism. >> jeff, i'm curious of your thoughts. you hear the trust in the attorney general here from this community and the appreciation

of him being here but it's the easier case really to put together is perhaps if any case can be put together is an excessive use of force case by the st. louis prosecutor if they in fact choose to do that. >> that's the paradox. the easier case is by the prosecutor who has so much trouble in the community. now, it may be that the two investigations are somehow combined and the -- somehow the credibility of the justice department and the fbi is transferred to the state investigation, but that certainly hasn't happened yet. i don't know if it will happen at all. anderson, i don't mean to change the subject but in term thes of the future of the investigation, i thought your interview with michael bradley is extremely significant. i thought he was very credible and very incriminating of the officer, and so, you know, that's another thing to place in the mix. that was not the portrait of an

officer firing in self-defense. that sounded like a murder, and that's something that, you know, it's not the only witness and it's not the only piece of evidence, but is certainly very significant. >> mark, i mean, you try cases all the time. eyewitness testimony obviously it can change, memories can shift, people can think they see something that didn't happen. how important is it going to be in this case given that there is no video, no dashcam video, really no video of the actual incident? >> well, eyewitness testimony as you just said is notoriously foulble. it will be extremely important both at the federal investigation, which is, i think everybody is kind of winked at, which is normally proceeds at a pace and the county and the county investigation is interesting on a number of levels because by going to the

grand jury, you have this situation where the public is not going to be able to see what the witnesses say or what the eyewitnesss say and interestingly, the prosecutor is the one who picks and chooses what witnesses to put in front of the grand jury. so you can cherry pick a witness that may be more helpful for the officer as opposed to a witness as jeff said who just would seem to incriminate the police. so the prosecutor welds an enormous amount of power when you go to the grand jury and if you compound that with the fact that the grand jury is traditionally in most communities selected from voter roles and here in this particular county the african american turnout is a bismal so you probably wouldn't have a representative grand jury that had the number of african americans you would hope for, this really could be a

self-fulfilling prophesy where there is a no bill return by the grand jury. >> the only thing i would add -- >> that's -- >> if i can just add one thing, the state prosecutor mculloch said he'll put absolutely all the evidence in front of the grand jury. so i don't know if the cherry picking -- it sounds like the cherry picking won't happen. it's still likely that the prosecutor like all prosecutors will control the outcome in the grand jury, but he has said he's going to put the evidence in there. >> well, jeff -- [ overlapping speakers ] >> there is -- hold on, guys. guys. the forensic evidence has not been released. we don't know how many shots were fired. we know the private autopsy done showed that at least six shots hit michael brown.

t information was not released was there other shots fired. three bullets recovered. there is a lot of forensic evidence that will be critical in this case which is simply not out there areeva. >> it's important to note at the grand jury level, it's not whether this officer is innocent or guilty and it's not the standard of reasonable doubt or beyond reasonable doubt. it's a much lower standard and as mark said, this is the prosecutor's playground. so if he wants to get a conviction, an indictment in this case, he can put on the testimony, the witnesses that we've heard throughout the last ten days, those that support the testimony that michael brown was fleeing, that he raised his hands, that he surrendered and can walk out of the grand jury with an indictment. i think the community is concerned that this case is going to be different because of the negative history this prosecutor has with the african american community that that indictment is not guaranteed.

>> and we may not hear anything on it one way or the other until at least october. we learned that today. thank you-all. up next, we'll talk with benjamin crump, the attorney for michael brown's family what see what he has to say and most importantly, the visit by eric holder. we'll be right back. we're trying our best annto be role models.rmodels. we don't jump at the sound of the opening bell, because we're trying to make the school bell. corner booth beats corner office any day. we make the most out of our time... and our money. the chevrolet malibu. the highest ranked midsize car in initial quality. the car for the richest guys on earth. moderate to severe is tough, but i've managed. i got to be pretty good at managing my symptoms,

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hey, welcome back. a little bit less than 25 minutes until sunset here, still very calm as it has been throughout the day, number of protesters still very small but usually grows as night comes. protesters now assembled outside a county prosecutor's office in clayton, about a half hour's drive from here give or take. joining us to talk about the process now is the brown family attorney benjamin crump. today obviously a big day for this city, attorney general eric holder commenting. a lot of people in the community i talked to were pleased he came ask met be brown family. what can you tell us about the private meeting that went on.

>> it was a private meeting, anderson. the lawyers, just him and the parents and he spoke to them as a parent. that he could understand their pain and frustration having children of his own. saying they deserve a fair and thorough investigation and an appropriate review and that meant a lot to leslie and michael because they are distrustful of the local authorities and you know why. their child was executed by the police and his mother keeps asking a very pointed question. you can't call the police on the police. and she told the attorney general that. >> but they were impressed by him. they were -- it had an impact on him that they came and met with him. >> it did and it was surprising because they were reluctant initially. after the meeting, they -- >> reluctant because they didn't want it to be political or. >> well, they wonder is it just

political because at the end of the day, so many people say, you know, we going to make sure you get equal justice, it will be fair for you and stuff and then it's like those are just words. but whatever he said to them, anderson, it made them feel confident that they would get equal justice, they would get a fair investigation and an appropriate review by his office. >> it does seem, though, that this is going to take a long time, this process. you know better than anybody the legal process takes a long time. a grand jury starting today, we may not get information until october about what they

jury being conducted appropriately and it's going to take time, can you explain the legal standard for an officer using deadly force? a lot of people say point blank, there is no reason an officer should shoot someone unarmed and six times. legally there are cases where the court said that actually can

be -- >> absolutely. >> appropriate. >> absolutely. i'm 6'4" and 225 pounds. if i'm attacking an officer 125 pounds and i got her pinned to the ground, i'll make it a female, i think any reasonable person would say yeah, clinger needs to be shot. using deadly force against an unarmed individual is the same standard. can the officer articulate a reasonable threat his or her life is in jeopardy? if so, it's a legal shooting. >> doesn't part of that have to do with whether the person is a felony in various legal cases. isn't that criteria? >> that's a case in shooting a fleeing individual. let's say you and i are in a fight and i weigh an additional 100 pounds and i'm a wwe super star. i got you pinned down and i pummel you. it doesn't matter if i use my fist, a hatchet, use a again in

your face, those things are putting your life in imminent jeopardy and if you're a police officer, you better darn well shoot me before i kill you. >> are there differences of when to pull out a gun and taze sner. >> yes, if you can arctic the late there is an immediate threat you need to address or a pending threat that could emerge then you go ahead and draw your side arm. let's say we're on patrol and we get a call of a man with a gun three blocks away and rush down there and see an individual armed with a firearm. we'll get out with firearms drawn to confront the individual. same call with a man who is behaving in an odd fashion. at that point we won't draw our firearms. we would come up and talk to him. if it escalated, we may use a taser or whatever we've got in terms of chemical agents. so it is depending on the nature of the circumstance the officers are confronting. >> i appreciate you being on again tonight. thank you. a lot to talk about in this hour, also, on live in the next

hour. coming up, remembering james fol foley, the american journalist killed by isis journalist just -- okay. actually, i want to quickly show you some armored personnel carrying tactical vehicles. this was around the same time last night we saw them moving into position, two vehicles, two tactical vehicles moving. some have taken position several blocks down and there is more likely we can't see from here at the far end of the road. previously they all used to be up there but last night this was the first time we saw a separation of the tactical vehicles and part of a new strategy by police really kind of a more spread out use of the police and really a less visible, i would say, offensive presence. you don't see police in full tactical gear standing around. police officers have helmets off, sometimes just attached to their belts. they have riot shields. a lot of that is not within

sight. that starts to occur if the crowd and mood starts to change later tonight. we want to talk when we come back about jim fuames foley. he was 42 years old and followed his passion to tell the stories that need to be told, stories of people suffering in war zones, people in syria. his parents spoke out, the president spoke out today, how he's being remembered tonight. there is also breaking news about an attempt to rescue him just this summer, to rescue him and other americans being held hostage. that's next. it can bring out the worst in people.

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welcome back, more breaking news tonight. another heart breaking angle to the story of the american freelance journalist who was beheaded by isis terrorists. we're learning how close the united states came to rescuing him. earlier this summer we learned president obama authorized an attempt to rescue james foley and other hostages. he wassyria. u.s. intelligence authenticated

the video, president obama says shocks the conscience of the world. >> the entire world is appalled by the brutal murder of james foley by isil. he was a journalist, a son, a brother, and a friend. he reported from difficult and dangerous places bearing witness to the lives of people a world away. the american people will all say a prayer for those who loved jim. all of us feel the ache of his absence. all of us mourn his loss. >> he was working for "global post." the kidnappers contacted the family last week in an e-mail saying he would be executed. his parents had been through an unspeakable nightmare and showed amazing grace and courage today speaking publicly about their son. >> so many people were praying for jim, and i really think

that's what gave jim an unusual courage. jim just concealed the prayers, he was strong, courageous, loving until the end. we highly recognize our little boy. he just, he was just a hero. >> you know from the videos that his last words were, i wish i had more time to see my family. >> joining me live are cnn national security analyst fran townson and phillip mud. what do you make of this news and the decision to release the details today? >> you know, anderson, having worked a lot of these rescue missions when i was in the white house, this goes on all the time. there is a standing inner agency group that works when there is an american being held, whether it's a journalist or an aid worker, and what you're doing is

going through the intelligence, making decisions about how credible is it, how actionable is it. then, of course, if it's believed to be credible and actionable it goes to the military planning spell. typically special forces and you hear about the ones that are successful. every day including the american still being held, american authorities are collecting intelligence to rescue them. >> phil, was releasing this information, was it a good idea? >> i actually don't think so. i recognized a lot of people say look, isis must know we staged that operation because obviously they were holding the captive. that's an assumption. it's not knowledge. if there are potentially people holding captives now not aware of the operation, they have to be sitting back and saying hey, what will we do about our captor because we know the americans are coming after us? i don't dispute what the pentagon and white house did. there is a leak here they had to

respond to but in the midst of a hostage situation to indicate we had gone after an earlier hostage in my mind is a mistake. >> fran, i think back to the "new york times" report about european nations paying for the return of their citizens who have been kidnapped, france reporting one of the leading payers and a huge source of income now and frankly enkoe ll encouraged more kidnappings. does -- is it fact well to say the united states does not pay as these western european nations do? if so, is that something they will look at? >> let me start with your -- the last part of your question, there is, in my mind absolutely no way in the face of this brutal execution of jim foley they will consider paying fees to these groups. and so we don't -- u.s. policies

we don't pay ransoms to these groups. now there are instances where it may be others who do pay these sorts of ransoms will go but administration, republican and democrat will not engage in the negotiations and do not pay the bribe moneys. the europeans, it's frustrating that they do, the french are not the only ones that they do pay large sums that are used by these groups to the armor equip themselves. the frustrating part is the policy some countries pay these and some countries don't. >> phil, do you have any doubt that isis particularly picked a killer with a british, probably a british citizen, certainly a british accent to execute james foley. was that part of sending a message to the west? >> i suspect it was. i'm not certain. i think most likely they put out

someone who could encourage people in the europe and the united states to understand that if you want to go to syria and iraq and fight in the jihad you don't have to be from saudi arab arabia. you can be from london or paris or new york. this isn't the first time we've seen this. we've seen omar from -- >> appreciate -- >> go ahead. >> you dropped out of my ear for a second. i'm sorry, continue. >> no, i was saying we've seen this historically, we seen omar from alabama speak for al shabob and germans speak to germans and americans from al qaeda. this is clearly a way to say look, if you want to join jihad, there is people like you here, please come and join ups. >> yeah, it's really just outrageous. we'll talk more in the next hour, as well. appreciate both of you being on. we'll be right back live from ferguson as the protests here continue.

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jake tapper has been out all day into the night throughout the week. he joins me now live. jake, what have you seen today? >> it's pretty quiet right now. first of all, we're waiting for

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