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take control of your retirement today. ♪ ♪ hello, everyone, i'm don lemon. we want to welcome viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm reporting live now from ferguson, missouri. tomorrow, we'll mark two weeks since the fatal police shooting that put ferguson in the national spotlight. and there are signs that the tide is turning now. protests overnight were peaceful. national guard troops are starting to pull out. and the surge for answers about the death of 18-year-old michael brown is moving forward. here's the very latest for you. new details are emerging about the past legal troubles of one
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of the key witnesses here. that is dorian johnson. he was with michael brown he was killed. according to police documents, johnson was arrested in 2011 for theft and filing a false police report. the officer who shot brown did not suffer a fractured eye socket, as some reports claim. that is according to a source with detailed knowledge of the case. the source says officer darren wilson was treated for a swollen face. and michael brown's parents say justice for them is officer wilson to be charged. we're going to have much more of my colleague anderson cooper's interview with the parents a little later on this hour. first, the transformation that's taken place on the streets of ferguson. i want to tell you about that. joining me is the missouri state senator, maria chappelle-nidal. you have been here since the very beginning. the past two nights, it's been peaceful. are you hopeful it's going to
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continue? >> i do think it's going to be peaceful. we settled some issues we had on both sides. first of all, we had to deal with the excessive force from police officers. the governor did help out with that by bringing in the national guard. and they settled things. having eric holder was a huge turnaround for this community. but on the other side, there are some elements that were in the crowd that we needed to dispose of and that happened peacefully. >> let's talk about eric holder. the mom spoke with anderson cooper yesterday. she said she was happy with her meeting with the attorney general and that it gave her hope. she looked into his eyes and thought that justice would prevail. do you think having the attorney general here, having the government look into this, is that helpful to you? >> absolutely. it's not only helpful to myself but more importantly, it's helpful to my constituents. they needed a sense that someone was going to come in and really give them some words of advice and just really help them to feel better about what's going on with this situation.
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>> the national guard is starting to draw down. not completely pulling out but starting a draw down. are you okay with that? are you concerned there may be some unrest if they're not here? >> i feel right now, we're fine. here are two triggers that we need to look at. the first trigger we need to look at is seeing if we're going to have an indictment. if that happens, then we have some time. the next thing we have to look at is whether or not there's going to be a conviction. if there's not a conviction, i think we're at square one all over again. >> is that justice for you? >> absolutely not. but, again, it's not justice for the family or this community. >> for you meaning -- i meant you, the community -- >> if there's not a conviction, i really see -- unfortunately, i see folks in this community being upset. >> yeah. the funeral is monday. >> yes. >> what do you -- what are you anticipating? do you think the funeral will provide some hope for things to continue to, you know, be peaceful or might it trigger something else? >> well, i think the community is just really ready to show
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their support for the family. i think it's going to be standing room only. there are a lot of speakers. i know i was asked to speak for a couple of minutes on monday. and it's an honor to do that. but this is also for the family. and this is their time to say good-bye to their son. it's very hard. they weren't able to see their son for 12 days. and so that's really hard for them, to say good-bye. so knowing that the community is there with them, i hope that they have a good feeling from that. >> you've been very critical of the governor. you've been very critical of the st. louis prosecutor, bob mcculloch. i spoke with the governor yesterday. he said he is leaving him in place to continue this investigation. what do you think of that? >> well, let me just tell you -- >> there's an online petition, by the way, signed by thousands of people to have him removed. >> like 70,000, something like that. let me tell you what the real deal is. the real deal is bob mcculloch does not want to be on this case. he has given all of this
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information about his background and his relationships with police officers. but this is really about the governor. if there is not a conviction, the governor does not want to take responsibility for that. and of course there's going to be unrest. but the governor sees already -- a couple of us have talked about this. he doesn't want to have that responsibility on his hands. and so what he's done, essentially, is to put bob mcculloch in a box. every other case he's ever had will then be put into question. so right now, the pressure really should be on the governor because we're in a state of emergency. by law, constitutionally and station u torely, the governor has the authority to replace bob mcculloch. so it's kind of interesting, because you never want to burn a bridge, but bob mcculloch and my community and i are all in the same place. we don't want him to serve as the prosecuting attorney.
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the only reason why the governor is doing this is because of his political interest in the future. >> all right. well, thank you very much. you've been out here every day from morning until, what, from morning until morning i should say, right? thank you, maria chappel chappelle-nadal. michael's parents open up about their emotional state now and the investigation into his death. also, the latest on the cold-blood eed execution of american hostage foley by isis terrorists.
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frustration and grief in ferguson. for brown's parents, it's also a personal tragedy, which they say hasn't fully sunk in yet. the couple opened up yesterday about the loss of their son and the response to his death. >> this is obviously every parent's worse nightmare. how do you get through each day? >> i don't. i just glide through. like i'm physically moving around. >> you still see him at times? >> yeah, yeah. but physically, i won't see, you know, that's a heartbreaker for me. it's painful. i can't really explain how i feel about this, you know?
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>> lesley, does it seem real? >> no. >> it still doesn't? how are you getting through each day? >> prayer. family. support. >> that's what's keeping you going? you both met with the attorney general yesterday, eric holder. how was that? what did he say to you? >> he just kind of talked to us from a man with kids himself perspective. >> he talked to you as a parent? >> yes. >> did it help? >> yes, it helped me. because he has our support, you know, he's supporting us and he says he's not going to stop, he's going to help us all the way through. so that's a -- >> you believe him?
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you have faith in him? >> yes, i do. >> does it make a difference that he came here, that he looked you in the eye, that he met with you privately? >> yes, it did to me. >> yes. >> in what way? >> because you can read a person and when you're looking at them and they're looking at you, your eyes, it puts some trust back there. that you lost. and ensured it will be a fair and thorough investigation. >> do you believe? do you have confidence in the investigations? there's the state investigation. county. federal investigation. do you have confidence? >> up until yesterday, i didn't. but just hearing the words come directly from his mouth, face-to-face, he made me feel like one day i will. and i'm not saying today or yesterday. but one day, they'll regain my
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trust. first, i have to get to where i'm wanting to get to. and we haven't even begun. >> it's going to be a long road. i mean, the grand jury just started yesterday. >> yeah. >> we learned it may not be until october that they come up with a decision about what they're going to do. does it feel like -- obviously, you want answers now. are you ready -- are you able to wait? >> yeah, i want -- i want everything to -- i don't want to rush judgment. i want everyone to take their time. so know the stakes. and get it done right. >> you've talked publicly about justice. you want justice. for you, what is justice for your son? >> well, he's got to go to jail.
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so we can have some type of peace. he's still walking around with pay. that's not -- it's not fair to us. and ain't no telling what he's doing. he has his life. our son is gone. >> i talked to sabrina fulton, trayvon martin's mom, yesterday, and one of the things she said -- and she wrote an open letter to you. one of the things she said in that is she was warning you that people are going to try to attack the character of your son. just as she said they did with her son, trayvon. do you feel like that's already happened? >> yep.
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even if this hadn't happened, people do that anyway. he was a teenager. he was growing up. he was only 18. he had a chance to make a mistake and correct it. just like the officer. he had a choice. and he chose the wrong one. >> still to come, the parents of the american james foley give their reaction to the e-mail notifying them their son would be killed in revenge for u.s. air strikes against isis. i'll ask a leading republican congressman. (vo) if you have type 2 diabetes, you may know what it's like to deal with high... and low blood sugar. januvia (sitagliptin) is a once-daily pill that, along with diet and exercise, helps lower blood sugar. januvia works when your blood sugar is high and works less when your blood sugar is low, because it works
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after months of silence, a family of kidnapped american james foley finally heard from his captors on august 12th, saying he would be killed because of u.s. air strikes in northern iraq. that last hate-filled e-mail was greeted with mixed reaxes. >> well, we haven't heard from jim's captors since december. you know, i actually was excited to see an e-mail, despite the conclusion they would estimate jim. i underestimated that point. i did not realize how brutal they were. and i actually hoped we could engage in negotiations with them, if at the were withey wer send us any sort of communication because we had none prior. >> the reports say the family
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thought raising around $5 million in ransom might get james foley freed. his isis captors demanded $32 million. also showing a second captive, freelance journalist steven sotloff who disappeared a year ago. the tone of e-mails to foley's family suddenly changed from ransom demands to a death sentence. we also learned the pentagon tried to but failed to rescue foley over the july 4 holiday. why did the pentagon reveal the failed rescue mission? >> don, they revealed it, they say, because there were several news organizationses that were about to go public with the details. so the public did reveal that over the 4th of july weekend, some special operations forces landed in the city of raqqah, syria, and tried to conduct a rescue operation for him.
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they engaged in a firefight and then discovered that foley and/or other hostages were not there. but the pentagon says they revealed the information now because several news organizationings were about to go public with the details. some military analysts believe it was a mistake to reveal the information because it could compromise future rescue operations. but others say they really had no choice. and they had to reveal some of this on their own and discuss it because they wanted to get the message out there they were trying to rescue james foley and those details would have come out anyway in the news media, don. >> let's talk more about those e-mailings. you heard in the interview the family said even though they were hate filled, they were in an odd way glad they were at least hearing something about their family member. what else do you know about those e-mails from isis? >> the family says they got several e-mails from isis between his capture in 2012 and his death. they got several. and then they didn't hear from him after -mails that were sent
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in december. then they got another e-mail around august 12th or 13th. and the contents was very threatening, essentially saying he would be executed. here's a quote, he would be executed as a direct result of your transgressions towards us. the e-mail said other things about shedding american blood in retribution for the air strikes. a very menacing e-mail they got on august 12th or 13th, indicating james foley would be executed. james foley's father said even when they got that, they had some hope that maybe some kind of negotiation could be struck. they didn't realize how brutal isis was. and now of course we know more detail. >> yes, it's just awful. thank you, brian todd, appreciate that. the final e-mail received by the foley family, the u.s. air strikes against isis was given as the reason for foley's execution. joining me, texas congressman matt thorny, a member of the
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permanent select committee on intelligence. congressman, how should the u.s. reto the foley execution? does it change the mission? >> no, it doesn't change. it reveals what sort of people they are. and, secondly, it's an attempt to intimidate us into not playing a role in pushing back against isis, into trying to keep us out of iraq and from joining a coalition to contain and stop them. so it doesn't change anything, it just reveals, i think, what they're about and what they're trying to do. >> yeah, you were a critic of the president's plan to battle isis. what should the u.s. be doing? >> well, the first thing we should do is quit talking about what we're not going to do. when the president takes options off the table, that only simplifies the planning of isis. and secondly, we should not reveal any details, any
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information, about missions that we undergo to rescue people or to push back against isis. thirdly, think we do have to have -- we have to reassure the iraqis and others that we're in it for the long haul. the iraqis are going to have to do this on the ground. we can assist them from the air of course. but they're -- they know we left a couple years ago. they don't know whether they should stick their neck out and trust us again. so we're going to have to reassure them that we're with them in the long haul and then have a plan that will make a difference. these tactical air strikes don't really change the momentum. >> yeah. congressman thorn berry, what are the fears for possible isis attacks on american soil? >> well, the biggest fear is there are 10,000 to 12,000 foreign fighters that have joined isis. and various estimates. but many of them have western
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passports. they're either american or they're western european passports. so they can come here to the united states homeland without a visa. and they can bring their -- what they've learned about bomb making and about assassinations with them here at home. we know they don't hesitate to kill people. it's not just individuals. they don't hesitate to kill hundreds or thousands of people. and so i have no doubt they are planning on how they can do that here at home in the united states and in western europe. >> i'm sure you're aware there was a pentagon briefing today. the spokesman, admiral john kirby, said that the pentagon would like to set up a plan to train the syrian opposition. con sceivably to fight isis but also the syrian government. how long has that been on the table, do you know? >> well, for a while. part of the concern the folks have had with the administration is the slow-rolling, deciding
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what to do with the situation in syria. which has enabled isis to grow and expand into iraq. you know, one of the key questions people on the hill ask is, okay, if you're going to give weapons to the opposition, how do you make sure it stays with the moderates and it doesn't get in the hands of isis? that's been a key holdup that the administration has faced as they have looked at these different options. >> can i get you to follow up on something? you said that many of them had western passports or american passports. can you follow up on that? what do you mean? >> well, i mean, they have passports -- they're either american citizens with american passports or europeans with european passports who can come to the u.s. without a visa. >> how many? >> the numbers vary. a few thousand are the estimates that most press reports indication. again, 10,000 to 12,000 foreign fighters, you know.
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various estimates, i don't know the exact number, 2,000 to 3,000, say, have western passports. it only takes a handful, as we saw on 9/11, to do enormous damage. >> congressman mack thorn berry, thank you. >> you're welcome. information services about the arrest record of a key witness in the michael brown shooting. the revelations are raising questions about the credibility of brown's friend, dorian johnson. we're going to break down the legal issues in the case straight ahead. jake and i have been best friends for years.
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welcome back to viewers here in the united states and around the world. i'm don lemon reporting live from ferguson, missouri. brown's friend, dorian johnson, was with him when he was killed. and it turns out johnson was arrested in jefferson city, missouri in 2011, for theft and making a false police report. a report to police, i should say. but his lawyers say that is irrelevant. our chris cuomo talked with them about johnson's previous arrest. >> did you know anything about your client's criminal background before today? >> you know, the client's criminal background is really a red herring here. this is a case where you have two innocent unarmed citizens walking down the street who eventually had to flee for their lives unarmed with their hands
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in the air. criminal background or not, everyone is entitled to constitutional protection. this police officer can't be judge, jury and executioner. criminal report, history, a student, honor roll, whatever it is. the point here is that you can't gun down innocent people. >> understood. credibility, however, key, especially in assessing testimony. when they hear about the criminal background and the types of crimes involved, do you think it hurts your client's credibility? >> i think it's something they take into consideration. remember, he met with the fbi, the justice department, the prosecutor's representative. he laid out his whole life to them. they asked him about his criminal background. they asked him about the matter that he had a warrant out against him. he talked to them about it at length and in detail. >> if you are counsel, if this goes client comes up and takes the stand. he had no idea what was going on, he doesn't know why mike
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brown did what he did. and opposing counsel says, you had no idea, haven't you been charged with a larceny before? isn't that very damaging? >> his credibility has nothing to do with what he's been charged with in the past. it has something to do with g getting, seeing his friend murdered in cold blood by a police officer. >> developments here in this case. revelations about the past arrest of johnson and the impact that might have. you have the grand jury that started hearing evidence in the case this week. there are persistent calls and even a petition thousands of signatures calling for the st. louis county prosecutor bob mcculloch to be removed from this case. lets talk about it now. let's start with dorian johnson's arrest record. does this really damage his
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credibility, or is it even relevant? or is it irrelevant? >> it may be relevant, but it's not material. one of the things that struck me that none of the attorneys said is that it's merely an arrest record. an arrest record is not going to be used in court against you for credibility purposes. you can't use someone's arrest records. you can use convictions. until that arrest amounts to a conviction because you're presumed innocent when you're charged with a crime, unless he just admissions to the facts of it, it's not going to be relevant, it's not going to be used, it's a prior bad act and it's inadmissible. the fact we're spending all this time in the court of public opinion, well, that's great. when you get into the courtroom, it's going to be a completely different story. if any of the attorneys are familiar with the rules of evidence, it's a nonissue. it's a nonfactor. and, you know -- >> you don't think it will come up at all? you think it can't even come up? even in the grand jury? he's saying to federal
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investigators, here's what the attorney told me last week. he said that dorian admitted all of this. and even admitted, you know, being in the convenience sore during the supposed robbery. saying he wasn't the one steali stealing, it was mike. his client has been transparent about all of this. you're saying especially when it comes to the 2011 police report -- >> you think filing reports -- >> -- even come up at all? >> police file reports because they're based on probable cause. as you know, probable cause is a very low standard to meet. beyond reasonable doubt, it's a very high standard to meet. it's up here. even though you may be able to meet that standard of probable cause which was the lower standard, you still have to meet the standard beyond reasonable doubt. so just because a police officer wrote a report, that's nearly probable cause. that doesn't tell you as a matter of fact he committed these crimes. in fact, all it tells you in our
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american system of justice, he cab be tried for it. so that's all we know based upon -- >> got you, all right. let's move forward. talk about wednesday. a grand jury began hearing evidence in the case. st. louis county prosecuting attorney robert mccall ulloch s it could be mid-october. so walk us through that grand jury process and what's going on right now with this case. >> well, i imagine that they're merely assembling the grand jury, try to determine which ones will be best suited to listen to the facts in evidence in this case. i imagine that evidence will be trickling in. the grand jury will have an opportunity to ask questions of witnesses. and, you know, one of the things about grand juries -- in an orlando criminal ca ordinary criminal case it doesn't require all this pomp and circumstance that's going behind these types of grand juries. in an ordinary criminal case, the grand jury is merely -- even if this case, whether it's used
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for investigatal purposes or to indict, i don't know which one they're empanelling them for now. the standard again is very low. it's probable cause. i'm sure they're going to have questions it they're going to be the first ones to review the evidence. by the end of it all they have to do is probable cause. they don't have to determine whether or not there's enough evidence to convict. that's the actual jury's job, not the grand jury. >> if you can just really quickly tell me about this. a lot of people in the community are asking about the prosecutor being replaced. he says he's not walking away from the case. so what do you make of that? the governor says he believes he's fully capable of doing it. >> i think it's completely irresponsible given the case of this nature. we dealt with some of those issues in our great city of baltimore where prosecutors should -- >> that's irresponsible to leave him on this case? >> yes, i think it's
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irresponsible. look at the outcry. look at the uproar that's occurred. i'm not saying it's wrong. i'm not saying it's illegal. i'm not saying it's improper. if he wants to make sure there's trust in his office, he would assign a special prosecutor to handle this case. that's what i think. >> all right. all right, thank you, i appreciate the conversation. please come back and join us here on cnn any time. >> i'd be happy to. >> coming up, the battle against isis. can the current strategy work? can the current strategy work? does there need to be american troops on the front lines to stop the terror group? that's next.
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group. they marry ideology, a sophistication of strategic and tactical military prowess. they are tremendously well funded. oh, this is beyond anything that we've seen. >> secretary hagel went on to say that isis poses a greater threat than al qaeda ever did. today, the u.s. launched new air strikes around the mosul dam. >> as you know, we are engaged in supporting iraqi security forces. and not just only but, you know, with air strikes, which we believe have had an effect. i'm not going to -- i'm not going to get ahead of planning that hasn't been done or decisions that haven't been made. we don't telegraph our punches.
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but i think you can rest assured that the leadership here in the pentagon understands the threat posed by this group. >> so, joining me now is brian fisher, a counterterrorism research fellow at the new american foundation. i have something i want to read. hang on with that. i found your article fascinating. you want to take this out of the political realm. you think there's too much ideology going on, right versus left. you said, president's policies in the middle east have failed in numerous ways. but he is right, that the political debate is the great et threat to our standing. one can argue that the u.s. withdrawal from iraq in 2010 contributed to the rise in isil without acknowledging that the u.s. invasion in 2003 did the same thing. it is a political argument, not a policy position. explain that. >> yes, my concern here is isil,
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we need to go after this organization. i agree very much with secretary hagel's assessment. this is an extraordinarily dangerous institution. i think we need to make sure we match our sort of commitment with the goals that we want to achieve. what i worry about is that in washington, there is this tendency to say, well, we need to defeat this organization. we've got to destroy it. but nobody wants to talk about what the commitment is going to be, if we're actually going to achieve those aims. i think if we are going to achieve the destruction of this organization, that's going to take years. it's going to take lots of troops. and it's going to take a real national commitment on behalf of the united states of america to go out and do it. so that's why i think that the president right now is not making that commitment over the long run. that our goals are actually more circumspect. in that sense, i think we can achieve some more limited goals of preventing this organization
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from spreading. pushing it out of some of the key areas like the mosul dam. and doing a humanitarian mission. what i worry about, though, is the politics in washington pushing us into mission creep without a real national consensus of what it's going to take. >> and you lay it out very well in the article. you also say, listen this is not going to be -- and going back to what you said, stop sort of blaming this administration's responsible. what's key here is isil or isis needs to be removed. and in your opinion, what is required to defeat isis? i think you're saying there is not going to be a quick fix, right? >> no. yeah, there's not going to be a quick fix to this problem. as with any, you know, as with any counterterrorism mission, counterterrorism is done best by competent law enforcement officials doing domestic intelligence, right? we're a long way from being able
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to get to a framework where there's actually a possibility when it comes to isis. what that will require is to militarily restrain that organization and build up governance on both sides of the iraqi and syrian borders. right now, the iraqi government doesn't control where isis operates. pie s isis is essentially a state in those areas. and syria continues to be racked by the civil war. are we going to -- nobody i think wants to stomach the challenge of -- and what it would require for there actually to be functional governments in syria again. i mean, does that mean bashar al assad gets to control syria again? i think nobody in washington wants to advocate that position, because he is, himself, an awful dictate they're is responsible for killing thousands and thousands of his own people. so we're between a rock and a hard place, and we need to recognize that. our policy needs to be driven by those very, very difficult choices. and we cannot allow this policy
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debate, which is tremendously important, as secretary hagel said, to get into the usual washington left-right politics. and i worry that will happen because our national security debate has fallen into that over the last ten years. >> and, bryan, it's a fascinating article. it's on wariniraq.com if you want to read it. coming up next, we're going to head to another hot spot in the middle east. where militants reportedly carried out a mass execution. a live report from the region is next. so i can reach ally bank 24/7, but there are no branches? 24/7 it's just i'm a little reluctant to try new things. what's wrong with trying new things? feel that in your muscles? yeah... i do... try a new way to bank, where no branches equals great rates.
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it has been a deadly day in gaza and israel. a 4-year-old boy has died after a mortar shell exploded in a kibbutz parking lot. five palestinians today were killed in israeli air strikes. and 18 people are suspected of being informants for israel have been executed by hamas. ian lee joins us from gaza city. ian, what are you learning about these reported executions? >> reporter: well, don, yes. like you said, at least 18 people have been executed. and actually, right now we're waiting to hear about more executions that are expected to take place in the city of rafah. when you look at these pictures of the men about to be executed, you have the hamas militants who are clad in black, their
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identities concealed. but you also have those who are accused of collaborating, also having their identities concealed. and that's likely that -- to protect the families of these men. also, these could be high-ranking or mid-level hamas members. and that hamas doesn't want people to know how far israeli intelligence was able to penetrate the organization. but what you do see is that these executions are very much public. it's to send a strong message to anyone who would collaborate with israel to say this is seen as treachery and during a time of war, anyone who is accused and convicted of treason will be executed. we don't know any sort of legal procedure that took place against these men. hamas has been tight-lipped about that. but right now we are waiting to hear about other executions taking place in raffa.
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and this coincides with the killing of three top hamas commanders that just the other d day. we're unsure if these are linked, but right now there is a festive atmosphere in raffa as they wait. >> and ian, the palestinian authority, president mahmud abbas, supports the egyptian peace initiative and is expected to visit cairo soon. what are we learning about that visit and are people in gaza hopeful that a lasting truce is within reach? >> reporter: well, what we're hearing right now about mahmoud abbas' visit to cairo, it's very fluid, we're not sure exactly when he will arrive. but he was in qatar talking about hamas political leader, michele about that peace process but it comes down to changing the situation on the ground in gaza. and unless that happens, a peace
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process really probably won't come to fruition, don. >> all right. ian, thank you very much. appreciate that. coming up, many families here in ferguson were already struggling before the shooting of michael brown. weeks of unrest have only made their situations worse. we're going to show what's being done to help the community get beyond this crisis.
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weeks have really taken a very heavy financial toll. our george howell visited a salvation army center, trying to help the community get back on its feet. >> it's not just because of the protests. we were already suffering before that happened. but it's just gotten so much worse, because even if -- like public transportation. it's hard to get on the bus to work and things like that for people. >> reporter: at night? >> yeah. even in the daytime, because sometimes in the daytime the buses don't want to go up and down the street, because the other day my brother was on the bus and he said the bus got shot at. i don't know who did it. but it's just dangerous so the buses don't even want to go through the area anymore. >> reporter: so you're here. i know the kids aren't loving this. it's pretty hot out here right now. >> yeah. >> reporter: do you think you can get some help here? >> hopefully. hopefully so. >> reporter: thank you for taking the time. >> thank you. >> and what you see here, you see all around. if you take a look, right now we're at a center that has been
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set up to help people with food needs, with utilities, people who have rent needs. because a lot of people just can't get to work or work has been looted. so work doesn't exist anymore. and you just go through here. it's a lot of people in this community right now who are waiting in line for any help they can get. >> it started at 5:00 this morning. and by 8:00, we already had about 200 people that were here to seek services. we have tons of counselors. that's a major critical need people need right now. so we've got several of our agency partners, better family life, boys & girls club. a number of people here just to be on hand to provide counseling services to adults and children. we're finding that the children are needing a great deal of counseling too. >> reporter: what's it been like for her? >> for her, she has been a little clingy. she's kind of on edge. i hope it gets better. i really, really hope it gets better. we can't afford for it not to get any better.
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if it gets any worse, we're all probably going to have to relocate up out of here. we do want justice. don't get us wrong. get the agitators out of here. we want justice but in a right way, peaceful way. we want to respect the family of michael brown. they're going through enough as it is. >> reporter: those are george howell reporting. for our viewers around the world, stay tuned for "news center." and for our viewers here in the united states, the ""newsroom"with brooke baldwin starts right now. all right, don. thank you so much. hi, i'm brooke baldwin. thank you so much for joining me on this friday. we will take you to ferguson here momentarily. i want to just pause and go straight to the deputy national security adviser for president obama. this is a quote, unquote, white house briefing. not the white house. the president is on martha's vineyard. that's where this is taking place. they're addressing russia-ukraine right now. what we're
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