>> thank you. ♪ ♪ >> good to have you on the team, todd. alrighty. let's look at another good step here. local schools as you know have been closed in the wake of unrest in st. louis, missouri. the st. louis rams have excited three high school teams to work out at the facility. >> just the parent in me, the coach in me, the big brother, hey, what are you doing? coach, at i'm home. okay. well, i'm just checking in you. well, you can stop calling me every two minutes. >> i'm not saying like we're troublemaker, like when we don't have nothing to do, there's stuff out there that you can possibly get in trouble. football is keeping us out of trouble. >> according to espn, all schools have an open door invitation for as long as they need a place to practice. if you're not a fan of them before, i'm betting there's a soft spot in your heart for them that way.

nice job, guys. thank you for starting your morning with us, i'm christi paul. our "new day" special coverage continues right now. all right. it's a saturday, hope that you're not wakinging up to an alarm clock. it's just on your own alarm clock, i'm christi paul at cnn headquarters in atlanta. >> i'm victor blackwell in ferguson, missouri. 6:00 on the east coast, 5:00 a.m. out here. this is "new day saturday." and here in ferguson, it was a quiet night, but tensions over the killing of an unarticled teenager, michael brown, they remain high. the tear gas, the military-style response, those have been replaced by protest, also a sense of calm in the community. >> there were no molotov cocktails tonight. no fires, no shootings, and we did not see a single handgun.

again, tonight, we deployed no smoke devices, no tear gas and no mace. and again tonight, no police officer fired a single bullet. >> well, today in a sign of solidarity with the people of ferguson, multiple rallies are expected to take place. including one in washington, d.c. supporters of darren wilson, the officer who shot brown, they're not staying quiet here. they're expected to gather in st. louis today. remember, at the center of all of this, there is brown's family. his funeral they're planning for right now, scheduled for monday, the same day that students are scheduled to return to school. meanwhile, we're learning more about the investigation into brown's death. sources tell cnn, the fbi who is here they've questioned more than 200 people in the community. have knocked on more than 400 doors. officials are also investigating

a recent cyberattack against local law enforcement. we also know more about the makeup of the grand jury weighing the case. according to a st. louis court administrator, three african-americans, one male, two females, nine white members to the jury as well. according to at prosecutor, it could take another two months to decide whether to bring it to trial. a st. louis police officer helping to maintain security in ferguson, is this another angle of what's happening here. he rails against president obama, gays and muslims. officer dan page. you'll see him in this video. he pushed cnn's don lemon and other protesters here while the show was on live this week. but comments that he made back in april, those have prompted his bosses to relieve him of his duty and call his rant downright bizarre and offensive. cnn's nick valencia has more for

us. >> reporter: front and center, a st. louis county police officer on camera making controversial comments about women, gays and among others, president barack obama. >> now this here is kenya. i had my own airplane. i had my airplane. i said i'm going to go find where that illegal alien, nondocumented lives there. i flew there, right to the undocumented president's home born in kenya. >> reporter: seemingly nothing out of bounds for officer dan page during a speech at a meeting reported earlier this year. >> did anybody read the "usa today," there are more sodomites on the supreme court. has anybody read this? wanting to change the constitution. and he lists six things in here

that have to go. number one, the second amendment. why would he pick that one out. because he's an idiot. and the military right now you have open sodomy, people holding hands, swapping sick together. sick. it's pit full. you got women -- i deeply resent this. we have the first female green beret. first they had to redo the qualifications. we have the first infantryman, first they have to redo the qualifications. the first female ranger. what happened here, something's wrong. this here is the foundation for this. you can't separate them. i don't know what those black perverts don't understand down there but they need me to talk to them. i'll square them away. it will take me about a minute. >> reporter: page, a 35-year veteran at the force has been put on administrative leave for his wide-ranging and

inflammatory comments. >> do you know how the muslims take care of you? they cut your head off. obama is allowing that every week. >> reporter: oak keepers calls its a nonpartisan group of police and first responders. founded by a yale graduate in 2009 they say they're defenders of the constitution. they said dan page is not a member of the outkeepers of st. louis, start charles. he was our guest speaker on one occasion. >> if you don't want me to kill, don't show up in front of me. >> reporter: police say the views of one officer don't reflect the majority of st. louis county law enforcement but could potentially tarnish the image of other officers. >> the bottom line is we expect our police officers to hold themselves to a higher standard. he didn't do that here. his topics were wide ranging.

they were offensive. patently offensive to everybody. in fact, they were bizarre. at the end of the day, what disturbed me more than anything else when he talked about the killing, that is out of bounds in my world. >> reporter: nick valencia, cnn, ferguson, missouri. >> cnn has placed phone calls, of course, looking for the video, the disciplinary action against him but we have not received a response. >> my colleague correspondent alina machado is also in ferguson. alina, let's talk it about this grand jury, we know this from covering federal investigations, it could take several months before are the grand jury decides this could go to trial. but we're learning more about the makeup of the grand jury. >> yeah, victor, the prosecutor said this could be mid-october until they decide whether to

file charges against officer wilson. we do know, however, we've learned that this jury is comprised of three african-americans, and nine white. most of its members are men. and we also know this jury was selected at random frommen a proved sample. an approved pool from this county, from st. louis county, missouri. they've also been seated since may. which means this group has been listening to cases since may. this has not been selected specifically for this case. we did go out and get reaction about what people thought about the composition of the jury. and most people told us, victor, that they were more concerned about the secretive nature of the grand jury procedure than the composition of this jury. >> and that secrecy is inherent to federal procedures, especially the grand jury procedure. alina machado, thank you so much. we'll talk later in the hour. christi, back to you. we'll continue to follow everything happening here.

again, now two weeks since the shooting death of michael brown. >> and just a couple days before his funeral, too, on a monday. thank you, victor, so much. the u.s. meanwhile says it's going to do whatever it takes to protect americans under threat by isis that could involve air strikes in syria after the beheading of journalist james foley. the obama administration weighing its options. we're going live to iraq four. plus, new technology some police departments are using that may have helped the community in ferguson. body cameras. they allow you to see everything the officer sees. we'll show you how it works. did you know, your eyes can lose vital nutrients as you age?

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beheading of american journalist james foley that see it really turn around. of course, this would be a striking turnaround for president obama who has diagnose everything possible to get involved in syria. he's been extremely reluctant to get involved in the syrian civil war, which the u.n. pointed out yesterday has claimed the lives of more than 190,000 people. this is not about the syrian civil war anymore. this is about an american journalist killed and the threat that isis poses, a quote from general dempsey said the only way to defeat isis is to go into syria. we've heard from chuck hagel who said that isis poses a serious threat. and from deputy national security adviser ben rhodes who indicated that the attack on james foley was in fact a terrorist attack on america. so, i think it's fair to say that definitely, for america,

for the international community, to defeat isis, they can't just target them here in iraq. they also have to target them in syria because, of course, that is where they have their sanctuary and they're safe haven, christi. >> anna coren, we appreciate the update. thank you so much. we know an international man hunt is under way to find the want who killed james foley. one of the biggest clues, the accent. >> an attempt by you obama to deny the muslims their rights of living in safety under the islamic caliphate will result in the bloodshed of your people. that voice is key to tracking down foley's killer. sources say his voice indicates he's probably from southeast london, not a surprise. who say the rise of militants recruited by isis is certainly

escalating. in fact there's an estimated 400 to 500 british recruits believed to be in syria and iraq already. professor peter newman is here to talk about this with us. peter, the question is, why are there so many britons joining isis. what is it about the uk that makes it a target for recruiting. >> it's certainly true that a lot of brits have gone to syria but it's true that french have gone, belgians, scandinavians represented. there's a long history of extremists in pretbritain and i reenergized the movement in britain. it's quite tease go via turkey into syria which has facilitated the travel that we've seen. >> let me read you something from the co-founder of an

anti-extremist think tank based in london. british muslims giving abroad to fight is not new. it happened in afghanistan. the only difference is that the ideology has been allowed to take root in the uk and since then. and we're not doing anything about it." how long do you think this is going on? and the uk and the u.s., where did we miss the boat on this? >> well, it started in the 1990s. there were a number of figures, very prom dent radical figures in london which were planting the seeds that can still materializing. of course, right in saying a lot of people have gone in, what's knew is the scale of people. if you're talking about afghanistan, you're talking 60, 70 people, now we're seeing 400 to 500 people going from britain. so the scale is really something that is different from incidents like this in the past. >> well, i know that the

intelligence believes there's sleeper cells in europe already. do you believe there are sleeper cells in the u.s.? and if so, how strong? >> the interesting thing about america is that not many foreign fighters have gone from america yet to syria. we estimate less than 100. and this may have a number of reasons on the one hand, because it's more difficult to travel to syria from the united states. and the other hand, a lot of people are arguing, and i agree, that by and large, american muslims are better integrated into american society. by and large, they're embracing the american dream, which is not the case in a lot of european countries. so i don't think there are sleeper cells right now, even though you'll have to wait and see how this phenomenon continues to develop. >> all right, peter neuman, we

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well, there are plenty of people who say they saw what happened when ferguson police officer darren wilson shot and killed unarmed teenager michael brown. you know, dash cam video could have made all the difference. trouble is, ferguson cruisers do not have them. but some departments are using

something even better. it's a camera that allows you to see everything the officer sees. that's because he's wearing it. here's cnn's alina machado. >> reporter: this is video taken from two body cameras last september. when daytona beach police officers knocked down a door saw a man armed with a knife threatening a woman. moments later [ gunfire ] the officers fired several shots an action that saved at woman's life. >> a arrived later at least 100 residents screaming at me that my officers gunned down a guy laying in bed. >> reporter: the video chief mike chitwood said helped ease tensions because it showed what really happened. >> and what could have been a really bad thing in the community, people start to look and say, oh, i understand what happened now. that's not what i was told. >> reporter: that's not the case in ferguson, missouri, where the

police chief says no video exists of the shooting death of 18-year-old michael brown. >> it would make a huge difference. >> reporter: chitwood's department is one of 1200 in the country using body cameras. >> the positive so much outweighs the negative. >> reporter: daytona beach police have 75 cameras right now with plans to add 50 more by the end of the year. each camera costs $950. and the department is paying $23,000 a year to store the video. it's a lot of money but chief chitwood said it's money well spent. >> i can just tell you from the few incidents we have here how it's been a godsend. >> reporter: why is there such resistance? why isn't that every department has these? >> change. cops don't like change. >> reporter: and according to critics. >> everything single thing you say is going to be recorded, scrutinized and so forth.

i think that would put a hinderance on cops and create a problem with them dealing with the everyday public. >> file like i can do my job a lot better. >> reporter: officer kelly uses a body camera every day. >> this camera will protect me. >> reporter: we were with him as he responded to a call. his body camera engaged. capturing his ride to the scene. and what he did once we arrived. >> what's your name? >> reporter: when would you say the camera is most useful? >> i would say anytime you that come in contact with the public. >> reporter: is this the future? >> in my heart. this is the future. it's here. we might as well embrace it. >> reporter: alina machado, cnn, daytona beach, florida. >> our thanks to alina. still to come, did president obama make the right decision in sending attorney general eric holder to ferguson and not coming himself. we'll talk about that. also, it's a terrorizing menace across iraq and syria.

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we have stories making headlines we want to get to. number one, russian state-run news agency saying several dozen aid trucks left ukraine this morning after roll into the country after the government's wishes, the ukraine government. russia said the trucks were an essential addition. president obama and chancellor merkel call it a provocation. up to 18,000 combat-ready troops there last night. number two, a hamas official now admits hamas militants are in fact responsible for kidnapping and killing three israeli teens back in june. their deaths are what helped spark the current war that's raging in gaza. hamas official says that they acted on their own that neither hamas or a wing approved that

operation. it's believed 2,000 people have been killed. number three, a chinese fighter jet had a dangerous encounter with a u.s. navy plane this week. apparently, the chinese plane repeatedly roared over the u.s. plane at one point passing at 20 feet. the pentagon voiced its objection to the incident directly to the chinese government. number four, chicago has been hit so hard by heavy rainfall. look at this video. yeah, that's a kayak, not a car going down a flooded street. we understand that things are getting better as the water recedes, albeit slowly. no easy task. number five, a spacex rocket blew up during a test. spacex it will provide another

update when the flight data has been fully analyzed there. ♪ and we are learning more now about the investigation into the death of unarmed teen michael brown. i want to get you right out to victor blackwell. he's on the ground this morning in ferguson. i miss you in the studio, but good morning, victor. >> good morning, christi. miss you there, too as well. learning more about the federal investigation of what happened, two weeks ago to today. cnn has learned that the fbi has interviewed 200 people in the community, knocked on over 400 doors. and also reporting of cyberattacks on local law enforcement. we learned that the website is down. and we're learning about the makeup of the federal grand jury. the 12 people empanelled, nine are male, three

african-americans as well. protesters took to the streets but no arrests which is a first here. and a sign of solidarity with the people of ferguson, though. multiple rallies scheduled across the country today, including one in the nation's capital. also, supporters of darren wilson, the officer who shot brown, they're speaking out as well. they're expected to gather in st. louis later today. but we have to remember, all that's going on, there is a family here that is grieving. and his funeral, michael brown's funeral, is scheduled for monday. the same day that ferguson students are scheduled to return to school. that start date is pushed back. here's a question, have leaders made the right move in ferguson? president obama sent attorney general eric holder here. he did not come himself. and appointed ron johnson to take over security. later called in the national

guard. they're systematically withdrawing from the area. we've got dr. johnson, political science at hirem college. for the president not to come himself, what do you think? >> i think that's fine. i've been highly critical of what president obama has said. this is ultimately a law enforcement issue. eric holder here, it was good to be sent here. but the president is actively engaged. i don't think he needs to be on the ground. >> you went to two meetings yesterday. tell me about that. >> one was at first baptist church by a group started i love ferguson. it was a church of 300 people and there were only three black people. i went to another meeting in the town hall in normandy.

so the community in work together to address issues in town. >> let's talk about the perspective how they view what is happening here, very different i imagine? >> yes, at first baptist church, they're more concerned on how the town is perceived than what actually happened. you heard people getting up there saying i realize i was part of the problem of ferguson because i only go to that part of time to buy wings. or when the ex-mayor said i understand, because i grew up poor with a white mother. >> any effort to bring these conversations together? >> i think there's a lot of talk of bringing the conversation together. but whether or not that happens, here's the problem. you already have people saying we need to heal and move forward. you can't agree on the diagnosis about what made you sick. >> yeah. >> and the problem is, you have many in the african-american

community saying the problem has to do with the police department. it has to do with the mayor, it has to do with voting and turnout. the how the media is showing the town. they see the death of mike brown as an isolated and strange tragedy. >> let's talk about how it relates to the investigation, possible charges against officer wilson. let's tart with bob mccollough and calls for him to recruits himself do you think he should? >> i think he should. and i don't think it's going to happen because the governor doesn't want to get involved. i don't think jay nixon wants any part of what's happened in ferguson. he's not bun a particularly good job. he hasn't been very engaged. he feels as long as i put this on mcculloch, he might be able to get an indictment, but a

conviction, no one believes it. >> makeup, nine whites, three african-americans, what are you hearing about the makeup of it. >> the rate is demographics, if you look at rasheed mcbride, the makeup as to do with whether or not someone is going to get convicted. now the threshold to get indict said really low. there's a good chance he'll get an indictment against officer wilson but the likelihood of a conviction, it's next to no. >> thank you very much. >> christi, back to you. >> thank you, victor, so much. coming up here next, it's one thing to fight isis on their own turf, right? what happens if they do get inside the u.s., and are they here? at 34 years old, victor is a

less likely first-timers. yet the journeyman is set to make this debut at flushing meadows. >> it's a very special opportunity for me. in new york, going to jump on the court like crazy to get every ball. >> reporter: growing up in an impoverished country where baseball reigns, few could afford the tennis courts and victor is no exception. grinding it out in tennis before eventually becoming the first player from the dominican republic to crack the top 100. his recent success is generating a lot of interest back home. >> last when i was in dominican, i remember, a guy say, hey, victor, how you do the last two months. thank you, you know me? yes, i read the paper and everything.

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there is another major concern, and it is could militants find their way to the united states? the assassin who killed a u.s. journalist is believed to be british what if isis operatives

have western passports and visas? cnn's alison kosik looked into that. >> they pose a greater threat today than six months ago and we're taking it very seriously. >> reporter: as the u.s. continues to carry out air strikes against isis, they're also monitoring the possibility that the next generation of isis militants could come from the united states border. >> it's a problem in many countries. and we face our problem here in america. >> we have been at the forefront of islamic state. >> reporter: authorities are already investigating the possibility that the man hurt in the foley video might be one of america's strongest ally. >> we're seeing is it a british citizen. >> reporter: it's tracking down how to the potential ties. glp they're looking at mosque, databases. young people don't just

disappear into the middle east for years or months at a time. >> reporter: isis is already recruiting the next group of militants in the u.s. through propaganda video. but new technology leads to new challenges. >> we don't have a political police in this country, so the fbi, you know, cannot go after people on facebook and just simply knock on their doors, the ones that are suspicious. >> reporter: isis recruiting efforts have already attracted american member. >> we're tracking 100 americans who are over there now fighting for isis. >> having an american city, you know, fighting for them in syria or iraq is a legitimatizing factor. they want to show that isis is a legitimate movement. >> reporter: the fbi warning law enforcement agencies to be aware of isis and their efforts to garner support through social media. >> they know how to make homemade devices from materials obtained here. including the detonators. so they certainly have the

capacity to launch an attack here. >> reporter: american citizens have already been investigated for possible ties from islamic militant groups. a man was stopped at the airport and questioned at lent for tweets to isis. >> and a woman is was questioned for providing material to terrorists. >> as we look ahead, and look forward, we are going to do what is necessary to protect americans. and so if we see plotting against americans, we see a threat to the united states emanating from anywhere, we stand ready to take action. >> alison is joining us live from new york. good morning. authorities see this, i know, as a severe threat, have they figured out how to stop it? is it a guessing game?

how do you stop a militant from entering the u.s.? >> the good news, as you heard in the piece, former cia operative bob bayh, the u.s. is actually in a better physician than making it a guessing game. he says at this point the u.s. is looking inside this country with intel, right here, asking questions, who's making calls overseas? who are they calling overseas? what are those social connections like? and also are hearing about u.s. officials looking at mosques in this country. databases like the no-fly lists. why is somebody coming back to the u.s. from overseas after being there tour years when they get to this country, hoping they're asking the right questions and noticing the white flags, christi. >> thank you very much. eyewitnesses describe the version, of how michael brown

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well, russia says several dozen of its aid trucks are now out of ukrainian territory but the withdrawal is likely to start an international move. remember, that convoy of 27 trucks that entered eastern ukraine and investigators are calling it an invasion. cnn's diana magnay is following

developments from slovyansk, ukraine. i do want to get to that but i do want to ask you about a lithuanian diplomat who was killed yesterday, diana, what do you know about that? >> reporter: exactly, the hon honorary console who was kidnapped and gives awecy sense of the terror here, in luhansk at the center of the territory, to try to push them out and in donetsk in rebel-held donetsk where they are. and that's why lithuania called for the u.n. security council to discuss the convoy and the

ongoing problems in the area. the national security council. the ukrainian security council was given a daily briefing. and it said something very interesting, christi about the convoy. it said that it believes from its preliminary information that defense components were loaded on to those trucks. and have been brought out of ukraine by the convoy. in fact, into russia. and this is just preliminary information. i think we can -- you know we need to wait whether there's more corroboration of this. but i think it's important to mention because russia does rely very heavily on the arms industry in this part of ukraine for its own defense. and that has been cited on various occasions as part of the reason, amongst many, why president putin may have such ongoing interests in this part of russia. i'm here in slovyansk.

just a short time, the undersecretary for humanitarian was here giving a short statement talking about the desperate need for humanitarian aid in this area and making an assessment how much money will be acquired from the u.n. and organizations to leave those areas and get money to the people who need them. >> diana magnay, thank you for the developments there. we appreciate being aprized of what it is. thank you. meanwhile, let's talk about the heat in california. i know that it's brutal. and we feel for you. we're going to tell you more about the problems that it's causing here, too. in just a couple minutes.

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well, if you're waking up in california this morning, we feel for you with this drought that's really taking its toll we know on the lakes in the regions. particularly lake orgo we've heard and that heat that is heating up. cnn meteorologist jennifer gray is live at the weather center. hey. >> it's a dire situation. it's getting worse by the minute. 98% of the state severe drought or worse. 58% an exceptional drought. and if this image doesn't do it for you, let me show you some pictures. these are before and after pictures of lake you were just mentioning. before, right there, look at those after pictures, bone dry. incredible. let me show you one more picture. it's not going to come up. look at the dam right there. then the water just goes away.

just incredible images of california. if they don't get any rain soon, of course, it's going to be very scary across the entire state. the other story that we're following, christi, the rain. it's feast or famine across the country. we don't have enough rain in california. and we're getting too much rain in other portions of country. it's all because of that jet stream. we have very unsettled water across the jet stream. it's going to be the same situation as we go throughout the day today. we're going to see the weather fires up. sioux falls, fargo, you're in the bull's-eye. you do watch out for heavy rainfall. slight possibility of an isolated tornado which remains right there. will bring very heavy rain and a dangerous situation there. the rainfall forecast, we could see anywhere from 2 to 4 inches across rapid city. 3 to 5 inches across the

northern plains. and the other story, the heat. there is a dome of high pressure across the south. we are talking heat indices over 100 degrees. some areas are going to be the hottest they have seen in two years. that includes places in georgia, alabama, arkansas, all across the deep south. temperatures are going to be in the mid-80s. feels like the triple digits by 5:00 p.m. memphis will feel like 107, christi, by 5:00 this afternoon. >> ouch. >> yes. >> i'm glad that's my bedtime on the weekends. >> me, too. >> thank you for starting your morning with us. the next hour of your "new day" starts right now. alrighty. i hope that you're a little rested and relaxed this morning. we're glad to have you with us. i'm christi paul at cnn headquarters in atlanta missing

my cohort victor blackwell. >> and i miss you too, christi. i'm victor blackwell in ferguson, missouri. 7:00 on the east coast, 6:00 here. new on the investigation in just a moment. >> we want to begin, victor, with news that the u.s. is considering air strikes on isis leadership targets in syria now. so, this new violence, we know, that has started in iraq this morning. and speculation over the u.s. stepping up its assault against isis is coming out this hour. suicide bomber struck the iraqi intelligen intelligence directorate. and this is come after isis leaders in syria considering possible strikes there. cnn's michelle kosinski has more. >> reporter: today's assessment of isis by the white house is

serious. >> it's not simply the threat they pose to the united states. it's the threat they pose to the entire world. >> reporter: a big jump in this talk of how to contain and ultimately defeat isis as the fate of journalists hang in the balance since january. >> would you still agree with his assessment a few months ago? >> as they become better funded in including what they're able to sell in terms of oil and gas, the ransoms that they've been able to obtain. and that has developed the capacity in the way that imposes a threat. they pose a greater threat today than six months ago. and we're taking it very seriously. >> reporter: not the 9/11 rebel planning of al qaeda. and today the department of homeland security and the fbi sent out a bulletin to law

enforcement across america saying there is no credible homeland security threat linked to isis but warns isis is using social media to try to gain followers and it's promoting about to american interests. and to agree with defense secretary hagel's words yesterday. >> this is beyond anything we've seen. we must prepare for anything. >> they abduct women and children and subject them to torture, rape and slavery. they've murdered muslims, sunni and shia, by the thousands. >> reporter: so in those terms, is that beyond anything we've seen? >> the president has addressed this a little while ago. >> reporter: do you agree with secretary hagel assessment, though? >> that what? >> reporter: that this is beyond a threat of anything we've seen. or that isis is a force beyond anything we've seen. >> i think the way the president views isil has been articulated a couple times.

>> michelle kosinski is in martha's vineyard. i understand we had a guest on earlier that said there's a lack of intelligence here in syria. is that what's going on here? >> absolutely. look at what happened with the rescue attempt. james foley and the other journalists held by isis. they were able to gather another intel to find out where they were. you might say that's pretty incredible. in fact, a senior official told us they have several streams of intel coming out of syria. they were able to pinpoint where the hostages were being held but, of course, in the end, the rescue mission failed. now what the department of defense and the white house has been saying this was a flawless rescue operation, aside from the fact that it failed. they think that those hostages were in that location. they just missed them by possibly a few day. so in that sense, it gives you a picture of, okay, they're able to gather enough intelligence to

find that information. but it's not good enough, even at this point, to be able to find them when the time is right. christi. >> all right, michelle kosinski, good to see you. the question is will president obama be pushed to something that he has avoided. joining us now, cnn national security analyst juliet kiam and the dailile beast's josh rogan. how big would a threat be for the president to defeat isis in syria. >> it would be major. there's a big difference asking us to bomb and disrupt isis and

not having a country ask us and doing it on our own. it's might be what is called a traditional cooperative agreement in iraq and violating another country's sovereignty. so is it would change the dynamics with our relationship with syria. obviously other countries like russia would come in. so it is a game-changer. i actually don't mind the white house taking its time. over the last three days, we've heard a lot of generals raising the fears of homeland threat. this is a huge threat for america. and you saw the white house trying to get the generals under control. i thought it was sort of a bad strategy on the pentagon's part to have so many people come out and essentially terrorify people. and keep the generals in line

essentially. >> it's interesting you say it changed the relationship of u.s. with syria but bashar al assad has allowed isis to form there in syria because apparently they were helping his factions who were fighting anti-government forces at the time. of course, josh, my question to you is how would bombing them change anything in terms of the relationship with assad and the jus. >> right. first of all, i think it's important to note that president assad has not controlled that part of syria for quite some time. and this whole distinction that this is syria and that's iraq has largely been erased by the islamic state's takeover of the area. while the previous concern was bashar al assad would have objected to the violation of sovereignty, i think that concern has long been pushed aside. the real concern here is, one, we done have a lot of intelligence on the ground to direct the strikes. two, there's a risk of all the

things going on in northern syria, including bombing by the al assad regime in the same area. so this is a big mission. unlike you, i don't tlinhink there's a big break there. there's a coordinated effort but what we haven't seen is an actual change in policy that leads for that to happen except for the one raid, unfortunately, that failed to rescue james foley. so the dynamic here we're actually now on the same side as assad in fighting against isis, although we won't coordinate with him. again, there's a lot of talk from both the white house and the state department and secretary of state john kerry but no indication that's really going to happen anytime soon because that would require a shift in intelligence. a shift in resources and a shift in momentum that the u.s. military and the u.s. government has not yet put into place. we'll have to wait and see if

president obama can actually do what all parts of the administration signal they intend to consider. >> right. but after the murder of james foley, i'm wondering juliette if america is behind takes isis out, so to speak, regardless of what it takes? >> well, i think there's a strategic plan to sort of up the ante and to get americans potentially prepared for more bombings and the president has prepared that for months. where i differ with josh, i do think the statements with the pentagon have been different over the past three or four days and there's just no credible threat right now that this is something that the average american has been to be worried about in the united states. as to the plan to take out captives, however harsh this may sound, we just cannot judge what the right national security

policy should be based on individual captives or hostages, however harsh that may sound, especially given what we've seen over the last week. unfortunately, this tends to happen. >> sure. >> to journalists or others who are captive. and we have to proceed with what's in the best interest of both the yielunited states answ the allies in the middle east. >> what do you say to juliet's comments that there's no threats right now? >> yeah, we hear warnings of isis plans to attack the homeland. a huge safe haven in both syria and iraq, i don't see a strategic plan to defeat them. if there is one it's certainly not explained to the american people. the strikes that they have going on right now, they're tactical, they're limited. they do not go into where isis has billions of dollars i think

the united states is scrambling to come up with a plan to defeat isis. now we see the rhetoric that it's in our interest to defeat them, but they are a threat to the u.s. homeland, whether that's today, general dempsey said that it's imminent. i've taken him at his word on that. i haven't seen the intelligence but what we don't have is a u.s. plan to combat and defeat this group. right now, i think we're playing catch-up. and i think that until they confront the problem in syria one way or another, isis has momentum and its expansion will not be turned back. >> juliette kayyam and josh rogan, thank you for taking the time to be with us. >> thank you. our other big story that we're watching, we're now two weeks since unarmed teen michael brown was shot by a police officer. the streets on ferguson finally starting to settle down a bit. it doesn't mean that the

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the nation's capital. supporters of darren wilson, though, the officer who thought brown, they are not staying silent. they're expected to gather in st. louis later today. meanwhile, a had my

cnn has placed several phone calls for what is believed to be comment on the video and disciplinary action but i have not received a response. so let's talk about the investigation and possible charges against officer darren wilson. a grand jury is now deciding his fate. nine whites, three african-americans are on this 12-member panel. cnn's alina machado is here in ferguson. she joins us now. alina, we know a few details about the grand jury. but inherently, they're secret. predominantly male, what else do we know? >> reporter: not much else. there's a lot we don't know. we don't the ages of these jurors. we don't know specifically where they live in st. louis county.

we don't know their backgrounds. we don't know what they do for a living. those are all details all of us would like to know. because of the inherent secretive nature of grand jury proceedings, we'll never nose those things. we do know they were selected at random from st. louis county and since may, so they possibly have been listening to other cases before taking on this one, victor. >> alina, there are several investigations happening. of course, the protests happening day and night since michael brown was killed. tell me about the funeral they're planning. >> reporter: this monday, it will be open to the public. it's going to be taking place at the friendly missionary baptist

church. they're expected a large crowd here. the details of service have not made public but we do know the reverend al sharpton is expected to deliver the jueulogy. we'll see what happens. >> alina machado reporting for us in ferguson as well. thank you so much. we've talked about michael brown and the protests and figures that have come into ferguson but where is the police officer darren wilson? very little is known about officer wilson or where he is right now. cnn's jason carroll has more. >> reporter: his very name has stirred unrest and invoked words of injustices and police brutality. but to others in ferguson officer darren wilson's name is synonymous with justice and has become a pro-police rallying

cry. >> police have done nothing wrong and this is just a rush to judgment. >> it's my america, too. >> reporter: the man behind the division here in ferguson has yet to emerge following the shooting of michael brown. a ferguson police force telling cnn officer wilson received death threats following the shooting when all the unrests broke out. the source also says wilson left ferguson last week to an undisclosed location for his safety and is now on paid leave pending out outcome of the investigation. ferguson's police chief has spoken to wilson several times since the shooting. >> he's very shaken about what happened that day and the aftermath. >> reporter: has he said anything about his emotional state of mind? >> we talked but he's hurt. >> reporter: for those looking into insight or those actions the day he shot and killed

michael brown may have to wait. wilson is not talking, has no spokesperson and the 28-year-old has not confirmed who, if anyone, may be legally representing him. as for his record on the force -- >> great job there. >> reporter: -- he's a six-year veteran with no disciplinary action. >> i'm just here to tell people that he's a good person. >> reporter: wilson's friend jay shepherd was one of the first to publicly defend him. >> it makes me sad. you know, i'm obviously sad for the family of michael brown but i'm sad for darren and his family, too. every law enforcement officer dreads the time when they are forced to make that split second decision whether or not they have to take someone's life. >> reporter: shepherd said wilson send him text messages. the support is keeping me going during this stressful time. just stay safe. i appreciate all you have done. wilson wrote the following about

his situation, i can't go out. and support continues to grow online. a go page has raised more than $250,000. jason carroll, cnn, ferguson, missouri. >> our thanks to jason. christi, we're going to continue to follow what's happening here this weekend. we're expecting an influx of people around the country. it is the weekend. and there are rallies scheduled here around the country, and of course, leading up to the funeral on monday in st. louis. christi. >> victor, thank you. we so appreciate it. you know, if you look hard enough, you'll find the death of american journalist james foley was not in vain. how do we know that? because his brother talks to us about the legacy that he says not even terrorism can extinguish. ear your blocked nose and relieve your other allergy symptoms... so you can breathe easier all day.

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you're focusing on the savage murder of american james foley would be a mistake according to those who knew him best and loved him most. foley's brother michael insists that his legacy shouldn't be how he died but rather how he lived. and he told cnn's anderson cooper that jim proved he was willing to tell the story of others who had no words. >> i don't want jim who have died in vain. and from the amount of support i've seen and interest, i certainly don't believe that will be the case. but i want people to remember

jim and his legacy, how he -- you know, his fight for the less than privileged people. for the poor. for his love of journalism. and the desire to bring light, to bring the story out from places in the world that wouldn't otherwise be heard. and jim's really -- really my hero. and i think he's a hero for many people. and i really just hope that legacy carries on. it was clear in the images in the video that jim didn't flinch. he had the courage. i'm certain that he put himself in a position to be first in line. and he wanted us to be strong. and that's the message he was sending without saying it. and, you know, i want that memory to live on. we all love jim. and i know there's a lot of others that look up to him. and it's just the people from all over the world. all walks of life have reached

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♪ take a nice deep breath. 30 minutes past the hour on a saturday morning. i'm christi paul. so grateful for your company. we have so much to talk to you about today. we'll go to ferguson, missouri, of course for the latest developments there, and isis and iraq. and number one, hamas official admitting that the hamas is responsible for kidn kidnapping and killing three israeli teens back in june.

their deaths are what helped spark the war in gaza. the official, however, said the militants acted on their own that neither hamas leadership nor its military wing approved the operation. it's believed more than 2,000 people have been killed since the fighting began. number two, russia's state-run news agency said several dozen russian aid trucks left ukraine this morning after rolling into the country after the government aens wishes. russia said the trucks were on an essential humanitarian mission. president obama and chancellor angela merkel among others called it provocation. there were 18,000 combat-ready troops last night. number three, the white house said a chinese fighter jet had a, quote, dangerous encounter with a u.s. navy plane. repeatly the plane rolled over

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data has been fully analyzed there. ♪ and we're learning more about the investigation into the death of unarmed teen michael brown. i want to head right out to victor blackwell. he's on the ground there in ferguson, missouri. good morning, victor. >> good morning to you, christi. we're learning about the fbi investigation. sources tell cnn the fbi has interviewed more than 200 people in the community, knocked on more than 400 doors. officials are also investigating recent cyberattacks against law enforcement here. we heard from chief tom jackson that their website was down several times and also the makeup of the grand jury. according to a st. louis court administrator, 12 persons empanelled.

three african-americans. and it could take another two months before this case could go to trial and it's agonizing for the friends and family waiting for the question did the officer go too far? all of this, we have to remember there's a family at the center of this that is mourning. and on monday, they will hold the funeral for 18-year-old michael brown. now, the investigation in ferguson is, you know, for people who watch those drama mass this is "csi" in real life in many ways. and ballistics, that will play a pivotal role in this case. we know from one autopsy, at least bullets hit michael brown. but the science of the bullets, the trajectory will tell us more. joining me david winger, criminal associate professor in st. louis. he's author of the book "into the kill zone."

what do you think, use of legitimate deadly force it's not a quick and easy answer? >> no, it's not. i understand that the brown family and indeed everybody across the country, apparently, wants to have answers about what happened. unfortunately, we have to wait and we wait box there's a process that kurd. we just mentioned that the fbi has interviewed at least 200 people. that took time. the st. louis county police department had to interview a bunch of people. that took time. the autopsy, that took time. talking to the officer involved, that took time. getting all the crime scene processing, that took time. getting lab results, it all takes time. i understand that people want answers but people also have to understand that every ten of the investigation is going to take some time. and we have to wait for all the information before we draw conclusions. >> you brought up one phrase that people are hearing for the first time "bullet course" and

what can that tell us? >> for example, we had a press conference involving the brown family attorney and the two pathologists who did the second almost for the family. and they talked about a couple of bullets. they said based upon where the bullet struck the arm could have been in a bunch of different postures. we need to know how it traveled through the arm. we understand, at least i've been told there was a shot to the top of the head. i don't know -- the course of that wound is very important, did did go down? on top? these things are very important. we have to know the course of the wound in order to understand the relative posture, the barrel of the gun and the person it hit and then we can tell the post tour of the body when it struck. that only tells us that the very moment where the bullet struck. if another is fired immediately

after, the first bullet could be moved. >> is there any way to know when michael brown was falling forward or lunging forward? >> no, all we can say from the shot on the head, let's say it indicates that his head was down. all we know his head was in this posture. it doesn't tell us anything about his body posture stepping forward. theoretically, he could have put his head down and moved back. or as you indicated he may be collapsing from other bullet strikes. from my understanding, there's one witness that says that's what happened. so that could explain. >> quickly, if we can, why so many shots you know the training you're a former police officer. >> police officer are trained to shoot until the threat has ceased. for mr. wilson, his training is to shoot until the attack is

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an international manhunt is under way right now for the islamic extremist who beheaded american journalist james foley. isis is using the video of the massacre to recruit new members. but investigators in the u.s. and uk are looking for any clues to unveil who the killer is. his face is shhidden in an

unmistakable british accent. >> any attempt by you, obama, to deny the muslims their rights of living in safety under the islamic caliphate will result in blood head of your people. >> already they know he is under 30 years old. he grew up in britain. let's talk about this from phil mattingly from bloomberg tv. phil, thank you for being with us. without obviously compromising any intelligence, we don't want to do that, but you can tell us more. >> sure. just with the information you've showed it's very clear how quickly people can figure out origin and things of this nature. but on this investigation itself, what you're hearing from u.s. and uk intelligence services is what they're trying to do is match that voice to intelligence intercepts they've had in the area. you mentioned obviously in a

desolate desert. the location, not a lot you can take from that. but what it does do, it allows intelligence services to pin down if anybody had a phone on it. if any batteries were operational at the time it helps to work on the location. when you have voice intelligence intercepts in that area are easier to use and weed out. at least the hope is on the u.s. and uk investigation side that will help narrow down potential names for the killer. >> not only that, his height, his build, you mentioned the terrain and the weather. anything else that they focus on? what clues can that give them? >> an interesting way of looking at this is what you hear a lot from intelligence communities it's all a mosaic. they take pieces of every little thing. as somebody told me reporting out the story, it's piece by

piece. it's really grinding out police work. you look at what the man is wearing. you look at the shadow to try and identify the time line. and you track people where he may have been from in great britain, you track people from his family, other worshippers, from his mosque. social media plays a huge role in that, but there's also a lot of old school police work here. >> here's the thing, i know this week isis aims to get 1 billion muslims posting on youtube and twitter and instagram. isis fell dramatically short of that goal but there were still thousands who tweeted solidarity at landmarks in spain and france and the uk. is there not a way to track at least some of the social media activity by isis and its supporters? >> location tracking has been

difficult. it's always been difficult when it comes to twitter and another of different programs on social media. i keep going back to this, each posting represents a clue. you start figuring out a picture. maybe they posted others who have been under investigation who have been shown in previous videos who have come up in previous videos as well. every time they do that, it's a clue. look, it's a great recruiting tool for isis. obviously the social media strategy is one that has set them apart from other terror groups working in that area and really we've seen over the last decade but it cuts both way. every time they post something, every time they put out a new hash tag, u.s. intelligence, uk intelligence is tracking. when you talk to u.s. government officials they feel like it's very helpful as they try and continue these investigations. >> one more quick thought here, we know that france has paid al qaeda or related groups up to $58 million in ransoms. is there any way to try to gauge where that money went when those

ransoms were paid? >> it's difficult on the ransom side. but the interesting thing on the finance side, that is another aspect of these investigations that have really kicked up in high gear. the u.s. treasury department and the u.s. justice department are extremely, eck treatmentextremes in this field. you see them pick up their game. they're trying to close off flows of money but also follow money in an effort to pin down and track where the individuals are. it doesn't mean there's going to be an easy law enforcement operation. obviously a very unstable part of the world right now. but they do feel they have an opportunity as they follow the money, like they've done with a number of other terror groups to make progress forward. >> phil mattingly, we appreciate all your insight today. thanks for being with us. well, some trucks from a russian convoy left ukraine this

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57 minutes past the hour right now and russia is saying that it does plan to continue to cooperate and aid efforts in eastern ukraine despite international condemnation

entering the country in the first place. we learned 50 trucks from the convoy of 227 vehicles returned to russia this morning. ukraine called it an invasion. president obama is among the leaders using the words against moscow as well. cnn's diana magnay is in slvantsk for us. >> reporter: some of the trucks were inspected by the red cross when they stayed on the border ten days waiting to go in. it was humanitarian aid, food, water and nappies. things you would expect. many of the trucks appeared to be empty. now we are finding out from the ukraine national security council a possible reason why. they said in today's security briefing that they believed that

those trucks were now being loaded with defense materials from some of the arms factories that are dotted around eastern ukraine. that is interesting. russia historically depends very much on this area of ukraine for its own defense industry. it needs components from the arms sector here. possibly, that is a reason why mr. putin sent in his convoy and is now bringing out those trucks fully loaded, which would indeed be two brazen things to have crossed into ukraine sovereign territory and to have walked away with what he could get his hands on. this is still very preliminary information, christi. >> all right. quickly, diana, what is it like there where you are? >> reporter: this is slovyansk. this was completely deserted two months ago.

we walked through here. the city completely boarded up. now it is a different story. people are out getting ready for ukraine's independence day. the ukrainian flag is everywhere. they say they are praying for the citizens of the two be leaguered cities where the fighting is still under way, christi. >> diana magnay, thank you so much for the update. we appreciate it. we're back here in literally two seconds. two seconds to say we are grateful for your company. i'm christi paul at cnn headquarters in atlanta. little lonely without my cohort, victor. he is doing some important work in ferguson, missouri. hey, victor. >> hey, christi. i miss being back there with you in atlanta. 7:00 here in ferguson, missouri.

welcome everyone to "new day saturday." >> we will check back in with victor in a bit. right now, we want to begin with a possible escalation in the u.s. battle against isis this hour. the u.s. is now gathering intelligence on isis leaders and troops in syria. which leads to the possibility of air strikes there. cnn's michelle kosinski has more. >> reporter: today's threat by the white house is serious. >> it is not simply the threat they pose to the united states. it is the threat to the world. >> reporter: a big jump though. this talk now about how to contain and ultimately defeat isis as the lives of american hostages hangs in the balance as president obama said this was like a jv team.

>> as it has become better funded and including with what they are able to sell with oil and gas and ransoms they have been able to obtain. that developed the capacity to increase the threat and they pose a greater threat today than they did six months ago. we are taking it seriously. >> reporter: the administration agrees that isis is mainly involved in regional operations, not the 9/11 level planning of al qaeda. today, the department of homeland security sent out a bulletin there is no credible threat linked to isis. but social media is used to gain followers against american interests. today, the white house would not go so far as to agree with defense secretary hagel's words yesterday. >> this is beyond anything that we have seen. we must prepare for everything. >> they abduct women and children and subject them to

torture, rape and slavery. they murdered muslims, sunni and shi'a by the thousands. >> reporter: in those terms, is that beyond anything we have seen? >> i -- the president addressed this a bit ago an. >> does he agree with secretary hagel's assessment? >> what? >> this is a threat beyond anything we have seen or that isis is a force beyond anything we have seen. >> i think the president views isis a couple of times. >> michelle kosinski traveling with the president on martha's vineyard. what do we know about the possibility of intelligence in syria, michelle? >> reporter: that's one of the big questions. one of the big problems with dealing with syria. whether you are trying to rescue hostages or you are looking at targets. you can see the two sides of it. on the one hand, they were able to gather enough intelligence and the department of defense

says they knew where the hostages were. they think that was the correct location, however, the intelligence was such that they missed the hostages at the location by a few days. you can see the problem there. there aren't americans on the ground to gather that intelligence, but, a senior administration official tells me they have several extremes of intelligence that they are able to monitor isis's movements and now they want to gather as much as possible so they are able to find which targets to hit. syria, of course, is not just a difficult intelligence environment, but difficult military environment with all of the insurgent groups fighting the regime. it is hard to tell them apart when they are on the ground. so we just had to wait and see how long this will take. also, the white house has emphasized this would need consultation with congress before air strikes would begin

over syria. a legal justification for taking a move like that. christi. >> all right. good to know, michelle kosinski, thank you. i want to talk strategy with senior analyst michael pregent and michael barrett. richard, thank you for being with us. do you think that it was a mistake to release the details of that failed special ops mission to rescue james foley? some think it could compromise future missions. do you believe that to be the case? >> i think the islamic state believes there must have been a rescue attempt. the fight they had with the group was better equipped and better able to take them on than any local opposition might have been. i'm sure they are probably aware of that. i think it's important for the rest of the public, if you like, to know that the united states

is preparing to mount such resc rescue operations even if they fail because it shows the attempt and the desire to collect intelligence about them. >> michael, we just heard michelle talk about the difficulty of getting out of syria. we know bashar al assad allowed syria to grow there. at one point, it is believed they were helping him fight the anti-government factions that were there. what is the thought that you have been teaming up with the assad regime? what would that entail? >> i think it entails limited operation on the counter terrorist side. looking at the islamic state rather than the border issues. to of a certain extend, they are

not only fighting the islamic regime, but it is fighting the whole world. it is trying to reestablish organization in the middle east which is upsetting the whole area. to that extent, assad may be a partner. of course, it is a real political hurdle to overcome to start fighting a common enemy even if you are not by doing so aligning with assad himself. >> michael, you are a former officer, would you be comfortable of fighting on the same side of assad? >> we don't need to fight alongside or with assad. one thing assad should look at is the loss of the mosul dam to isis. this is the isis gain when they seize the infrastructure like the dam could be temporary. if you look at peshmerga, that

is the first time they lost key infrastructure. to lose water and punish like saddam did. assad can look at the successes of the mosul dam and make targeting direct and against sunni population centers. where we can work together against taking out isis, we should, but it should be no sharing of intelligence of this time. intelligence on key positions on infrastructure, sure. we cannot trust assad not to target sunni centers and we will be blamed for that by the notion we are working with them. >> michael, do you think this war with isis, so to speak, do you think it can be won without intervening in syria? >> i think right now, with the u.s. air strikes, all the videos you are showing right now, that is isis pre-mosul dam. that is pre-u.s. air strikes. gone are the days of mosul air

strikes. the majority was moved to syria because it can survive a lesser air force. the air force that assad has. right now, isis is moving a lot of the key leaders back to syria because it is not as difficult to fight there. right now, mosul is controlled by 5,000 isis fighters. there are 750,000 there that have seen the crack in the invisibility we gave isis. they no longer roll from town to town and they are starting to look at them. there are leaders in the communities that are asking us to help them with intel, special ops and strikes that are ready to do something. the two divisions that failed when isis invaded mosul, the body of government should reach out and say we will fill the ranks with the sunnis in mosul

that are willing to fight isis. you can be the true line as opposed to being controlled about 5,000 guys. it has gone from rolling columns in towns and beheadings and acts of violence and the response like we saw with bakava. the resorted more to violence. that violence was repelled. you are seeing a lot of those tactics. >> okay. richard, i want to play some sound here. the brother of james foley says the u.s. could have done more to help free some of the hostages. let's listen to this and talk in a moment. >> the united states for a country as large as it is has pretty limited resources, at least i can see with respect to the situations and i think there's more at that state could

have done. their hands are tied by the policies. i think -- i know there is more that could have been done. >> richard, when it comes to ransom and negotiating with territories, some think the united states did that with army sergeant bowe bergdahl. where does the army draw the line? >> it is drawing a line. you are dealing with families and emotions. the idea of not paying ransom for kidnapped victims, it is undermining. the problem is if you pay a ransom, what does it do? it encourages the group to take more hostages and what do they use the money for? they use the money to buy more arms and weapons and attack and kill more people. we have to draw the line. it is an incredibly difficult policy decision to make because you are dealing with individuals. it is really important. >> michael pregent and richard

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the protests are thinning out here in ferguson, missouri. smaller numbers, but the outrage and really the distrust of the police force here, is echoing in the streets. today marks two weeks since unarmed teenager michael brown was shot and killed by a police officer. this community has been outraged. overnight, it was peaceful. protesters on the streets, but there were no arrests. today, in a sign of solidarity with the people of ferguson, there are multiple rallies expected across the country, including one in washington, d.c. supporters of darren wilson, the officer that shot brown, are expected to gather in st. louis today. some of the supporters have raised more than $250,000 for his defense. we are also learning about the grand jury weighing in on the case. according to a st. louis administrator. 12-person panel.

three african-american and nine other members. the troubles swell. another police officer, dan page, he pushed cnn's don lemon and protesters back. this morning, page, a military veteran and 35-year veteran of the force is on administrative leave. it is because of video surfaced of inflammatory comments he made of women and gays and president obama calling him an illegal l alien not being from the u.s. he apologized for his actions and called the video bizarre. cnn placed home calls and we have not received a response. today there will be a moment of silence. today, a lot of people called mike brown big mike. he was a big man.

18 years old. 6'4". a large guy. he played offensive tackle for normandy high school before he graduated recently. there's a game today. his team, fmer team now, will hold a moment of silence this morning. game starts at 10:00. moment of silence expected at 11:00. there are more honors and tributes for the family. we talked about the protests and rallies across the country. we are hearing about an influx of people from around the country coming here to ferguson for planned rallies across the community. now you can look at that one of two ways. one, there will be a continuation of the peaceful protests that we have even over the last few nights or consider this, many of the people who have been arrested over the last two weeks had been out-of-towners. the last night when there were seven arrests, four of the people were from michigan, from the detroit area. also, you know, a lot of people

may not be coming out because they are workdays and people have places to be in the morning. possibly you will have people staying out much later because we are going into a sunday in which there are no plans for many people to be there. a lot of people are concerned also about the children in this community. they were scheduled to start school more than a week ago. classes have not yet begun here. they are expected to start on monday, the same day as brown's funeral. my colleague don lemon sat down with the youngest members of the community and asked what they know about what is happening here and how it is affecting them. listen. >> do you know what is going on? what's happening? a kid got shot. what do you think of that? >> i think it's mean, kind of. >> yeah. >> he shouldn't have done that. i think he should have just leave the kid alone when he was

doing. he shouldn't have done anything but leave the kid alone and see what he was doing and said, mister, what are you doing and then walk away. >> and nobody gets hurt, right? >> yeah, but now he died. >> reporter: so, you hear there that she says a lot of people are in the way. more people will be coming here and we said the rallies across the country, christi, and also the funeral on monday, we're told it will be at friendly temple missionary baptist church in st. louis. a lot of details are coming together. many people across the country holding rallies will be here in ferguson. >> you hear it from a kid's perspective and it is more profound than anything we can come up with. victor, thank you. he just mentioned that local schools had to shutdown in the wake of the turmoil in ferguson. the nfl's st. louis rams came to the rescue.

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you know, with schools closed for the past week in ferguson, local high school football teams have not been able to practice on the home fields. well the national football league's st. louis rams has the help. >> for students, obviously, that means no school. but athletes, that means no practice. the season is starting this weekend. three local teams have been scrambling to find places to

practice. one of them had to train in a park near a swamp with crickets swarming players. that is when the st. louis rams stepped in and invited the three high schools to use the indoor facility. the coaches and players say the chance to practice on a feel field gives them a chance to forget about the chaos on the streets of their hometown. >> i called them. just the parent in me and coach in my and big brother. what are you doing? coach, i'm at home. okay. well, i was just checking on you. can you stop calling me every two minutes? >> i'm not saying we're trouble makers. when we don't have anything to do, there is stuff out there to get you in trouble. football is keeping us out of trouble. >> the high schoolers were invited to stay and watch the rams close the training camps. a team of little leaguers from chicago is making a big

impact on and off the field. the jackie robinson west team made up of african-american kids will play for the u.s. championship this afternoon and a shot at the world series title. now it has been 31 years since an all black team made it into the series and that was also the jackie robinson west team in 1983. this is a group of 11, 12 and 13-year-olds from chicago's south side. they will now face a team from las vegas with the winner playing for the world series championship tomorrow. now, these kids have caught the attention of several major leaguers. including carl crawford. the dodgers outfielder is picking up part of the tab for the road trip. >> we have been watching it with our girls. it is just awesome to watch. >> it really is. >> take notice of the names. you will see them. >> they will be back. >> kristin, good to see you. >> thank you. you know, diplomacy can take strange turns. coming up, we will tell you why

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hope r & r is on the menu for you today. bottom of the hour. i'm christi paul. here are five things to know for the day. james foley's murder is prove that isis is capable of anything. since the killing, the u.s.

increased air strikes against isis threatening to expand into syria. the u.s. telling people to be on alert for terror attacks. and now rogue hamas militants killed the three teens killed this summer. the violence increased between israel and hamas and the killings are to do with it. and texas governor rick perry admits he did not do enough homework before the race in 2010. he said if running this time, he hasn't decided, by the way, he won't make that same mistake. number four, the world of diplomacy can take a bizarre twist. the russian government shutdown four mcdonald's restaurants in mosc moscow. the reason on paper is because of alleged sanitary operations.

some say it is likely retaliations of the u.s. on the kremlin. and new york city council is going after happy meals. kids' meals at burger king and wendy's, too. any meal with a toy. the bill would limit them to 500 calories and cut down on the amount of salt. certainly a calm night in ferguson last night. two weeks after michael brown was shot and killed by officer darren wilson. that is where victor blackwell is right now in ferguson. hi, victor. >> christi, no tear gas, rubber bullets. no molotov cocktails. the city trying to get back to normal. there will be rallies across the country for michael brown.

there will be apr moment of silence for michael brown. >> we know some want prosecutor bob mcculloch to recuse himself. one said that officer wilson had a broken eye socket after the altercation is not true. a lot of allegations still coming out here, victor. >> let's bring in crystal wright and maria cardona. let's talk about the political angle. there are political angles of what is happening in ferguson. the explosive situation here over the past couple of weeks. i want to start with you, crystal, do you think the president should have come here instead of just sending the ag? >> no, i don't think president obama should have gone to ferguson. i also don't think eric holder should have gone to ferguson. the reason why everything has

exploded over the last two weeks in ferguson, missouri, is because everybody's rushing to judgment. it sends a really bad message for the u.s. attorney general to go to ferguson and to meet with everyone before all the evidence has been gathered. you and christi have said this. there is conflicting evidence. i would argue if president obama hadn't talked about this tragic situation in the first place and al sharpton and others hadn't gone to ferguson, you would not have molotov cocktails and you would not have the frenzied level of black people judging white people based on the color of their skin. what i would like to say, i'm here in chicago. earlier this week, a 9-year-old black boy was savagely gunned down here in chicago. he was a fourth grader. he is the youngest victim of

shootings in the city this year. we see nothing from our president of the united states and i think what that says is that when blacks are killed by other blacks, we have become immune to their destiny and we accept that. it is wrong what is happening in ferguson. we need to sit back and let the evidence and the grand jury make their decision. >> maria, what do you think about that? the president said he did not want to put his thumb on the scale. the fact he sent the ag here, that is putting a thumb on the scale, isn't it? >> it is. i think it is doing it in an appropriate manner. agree with crystal that president obama was right in not coming to ferguson. i think that would have been too much. he is in a position where he will get criticized whether he does it or not. i think sending his top law

enforcement official in eric holder was the right thing to do. attorney general holder was not here to judge or prejudge any kind of evidence or any kind of information that is still coming in. in fact, he said we all need to be calm while they figure out exactly what happened. he came here to calm things down. and i disagree with crystal in that if he hadn't come here, we would not have had the molotov cocktails or the rest of the rioting going on. i don't think that is the case at all. i think that would have happened anyway because there is a lot of tension and there is a lot of frustration from the african-american community and rightly so. i think the attorney general came here to calm things down and to reassure everybody that the investigation is going to move forward in a thorough and independent manner. he asked for calm from everybody. from community leaders on down.

look, i'm in washington, d.c., and in washington, d.c., there are murders every week of young black children. my husband has gone to many, many -- too many funerals of young black kids that he has mentored. it is something that we all need to keep an eye on and we don't put enough attention on. the president has talked about it. he will continue to talk about. it we all need to talk about it. >> right. maria, president obama also stuck his neck into the trayvon martin situation before anything happened. he said if i had a son, he would look like trayvon. my point is the message is when the president of the united states comes into the situation without evidence or charges brought against suspects, sends the message that he is taking the side of one of the victim which was trayvon martin last year and this year, michael brown. you raise an important point

about black americans. >> in which situation has he taken a side? i think he is acknowledging the grief and the tragedy. he is standing up for the rights of journalists. >> let me finish. victor, you just said by sending eric holder to ferguson, he put his thumb on the scale. he put his thumb on the scale taking the side of slain michael brown. maria points out the shootings in washington, d.c. and chicago. the president hasn't spoken about any of those. you know why? because the victims and the perpetrators are black. i think as a black american, don't put me in the box of saying that all black americans think one way or another. one black americans do not think that the protesters and rioters, largely black ones in ferguson, are doing the right thing. i don't think they are. i think what saddens me is a black woman in this country is

we are talking about this case in black and white and we are basically saying if you are white, you are on the wrong side of this and if you are black, you are on the right side of this. >> 15 seconds. >> i don't think that's true, crystal. the president talked about this at length when he talked about the my brother's keeper initiative. it doesn't get front page news, but he talks about it. number two, i agree with you on the community level. we need to focus more on the african-americans in ferguson who have actually said the looters are doing exactly the wrong thing. i disagree with you that everyone is putting this in black and white terms because there are leaders in ferguson that have stood up and condemned the african-american looters and those coming from the outside to stir things up. i applaud them for doing that. we applaud bringing everybody together to try to find

solutions. >> this conversation has to continue. i also think we have to wrap it up here. i think it is important we ask the question. we talk about this being the death of an unarmed teen, but if darren wilson had been a black man, would there be the rallies every night? maria and crystal, thank you for the conversation. >> thank you. >> good job, by the way. absolutely. that last question that you posed out there. something to ponder as well. thank you so much. listen, still ahead on "new day," how an american doctor and aid worker miraculously survived ebola. we will breakdown the fact and fiction about the deadly disease. our bepricing on mobile plans for business. run the numbers on that. well, unlimited talk and text, and ten gigs of data for the five of you would be... one-seventy-five a month. good calculating kyle.

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the american doctor infected with the ebola virus has been released from the atlanta hospital. 90% of the cases end in death. it has a lot of americans worried if they could get infected. as deadly as it can be, ebola is not easily transmitted. cnn's medical correspondent elizabeth cohen is here with more. >> when kent brantly and nancy writebol were released from the

hospital, there was joy, but some expressed concern these two people who had ebola will be out in the general public. was it safe for the american people. the doctors from emory who treated them, yes. there is no threat to people in the general public. there is nothing to worry about. the reason for that is they no longer have the virus in their blood. they know that because they tested these people over the course of two days and it is no longer there. many people are wondering it serum or medicine these two people received is that what saved them? the emory doctors said there is no way of answering that question. maybe it was, but maybe it wasn't. let's look at the facts. in this particular outbreak, nearly half the people lived and these people did not get that medicine. nearly half the people lived without the medicine. here is another thing to think

about. writebol and brantly had terrific supportive care. what i mean is they were kept really well hydrated. that can help someone survive an ebola infection. they were not given necessarily the same kind of care the others have received. six people have been given the medicine and five of them are still alive. another interesting question is if writebol and brantly are immune to ebola because they already had it. the doctors at emory say they are immune to ebola, but this strain and there are five strains of ebola. if they choose to go back and work with ebola patients, they would be better protected than other health care workers. christi. >> elizabeth, thank you. if you would like to help the thousands worldwide infected by the ebola virus as you saw the videos from different parts of the world, go to cnn.com/impact.

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this morning, the united states is weighing if they should use targets in syria. it has been two weeks since a white police officer shot an unarmed teenager, michael brown. the protests have turned peaceful, the anger over the direction of the investigation is anything but. a lot to share with you at the top of the hour. i'll see you then. christi. >> thank you, michael. "smerconish" coming at you at top of the hour at 9:00 a.m. eastern here on cnn. you know, when we learn that the assassin who killed james foley is likely british, it stoked the fierce. how many western citizens are fighting with isis? could they gain passports to gain into the united states? alison kosik has more.

>> they pose a threat today. >> reporter: as the u.s. continues to carry out air strikes against isis, they are also monitoring the possibility that the next generation of islamic militants could come from within the united states border. >> it is a problem in many countries. we face that problem here in america. >> reporter: authorities are already investigating the possibility that the man heard in the foley video might be from america's strongest ally. >> from what we see, it is increasingly likely it is a british citizen. >> reporter: the problem is how to track down citizens with potential ties to the terrorist groups. >> the fbi is looking at data analytics and mosques and travel. young people don't just disappear in the middle east for months or years at a time. >> reporter: isis is recruiting

through propaganda video. but new technology leads to new challenges. >> we don't have a political police in this country. the fbi, you know, cannot go after people on facebook and just simply knock on their doors. >> reporter: isis recruiting efforts have already attracted american members. >> we are tracking 100 americans over there now fighting for isis. >> having an american citizen, you know, fighting for them in syria or iraq is a legitimate factor. they want to know isis is a univeru universal movement. >> reporter: the fbi issued a warning on the efforts to garner support through social media. >> they know how to make homemade devices from materials they can obtain here. including the detonators. they have the capacity to launch an attack here. >> reporter: american citizens have been investigated for possible ties for islamic militant groups.

a north carolina man was stopped in august at the jfk airport for a gun charge. a colorado woman was arrested by the fbi in april for conspiracy to provide support for suspected terrorists. this may be the next potential threat to the homeland. >> as we look ahead and forward, we will do what is necessary to protect americans. so if we see plotting against americans, we see a threat to the united states emanating from anywhere. we stand ready to take action. >> reporter: christi, what you see happening here are two things. you have the hint that possibly after the beheading of james foley that the u.s. may not limit air strikes, but could go after isis in syria. you have law enforcement here in the u.s. on high alert keeping

an eye out for possible isis sympathizers and those looking to get into the u.s. you see the high alert at airports and borders. >> alison kosik, i appreciate it. thank you so much. we'll be right back. relief in seconds.® your eys visine®. get back to normal. caman: thanks, captain obvious. wouldn't stay here tonight. captain obvious: i'd get a deal for tonight with deals for tonight from hotels.com. and you might want to get that pipe fixed.

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i'm meteorologist jennifer gray with the tropical update. we have been watching the tropical wave in the caribbean. it has been impacting portions of puerto rico, dominican republic. dumping 10 to 12 inches of rain in the dominican republic. it has an 80% chance of becoming

a tropical depression later today. it could become a tropical storm by the time tomorrow comes around. this could become kristobol. it could pull together in the next 24 hours or so as it leaves the dominican republic and leaves the mountainous region and could become stronger. this is something we will watch. of course, most of the models take it away from the land. sort of hard to read. we are continuing to watch it and see which way it will go. uncertainty in the storm. of course, most of the models that we do rely on and have most of the confidence in takes it away from the u.s. something to watch, though, out there. we are continuing to watch the heat, though, it will be building across southern states of the u.s. we have heat advisories in place. christi, some areas could feel like the triple digits this afternoon and tomorrow. it is going to be a hot one this

weekend. >> yikes. jennifer gray, thank you so much. good to see you. and "smerconish" is coming at you next. thank you for starting your morning with us. i'll see you back here at 10:00 easte eastern. first off, the obama administration is considering taking the fight directly to isis militants in syria. the pentagon saying all options are on the table. that could include air strikes. house foreign affairs committee ed royce joins me. a grand jury will decide if the cop who killed michael brown should face charges, but protesters want the prosecutor out. i'll talk to paul ryan about his new book which matches the gop blueprint for success. i'm michael smerconish. let's get started. my first headline is from