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ferguson, missouri. coming up on 5:00 a.m. here in ferguson. this is "new day sunday." we have the latest on the michael brown shooting coming up and there is a lot to talk about. >> you were there and you saw a lot of it so it will be interesting. the news that isis has besieged another shiite town. they cut them off we're told from food and water for two months. this is more than 17,000 people who live in the northern iraqi town of amerli. the u.n. fears they are going to be slaughtered. nearly three dozen villages around amerli are under isis control. you see on the map the swath of territory isis seized. the crisis in amerli mirrors violence across the country. there are bombings and attacks in baghdad and in the north that you know killed dozens. cnn's jomana karadsheh joins us now from the iraqi capital.
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and we will be talking to her actually in a couple minutes. but one of the big questions today when we look at this is, we hear that there are shiite factions that have attached sunnis so is this now a two-pronged fight so to speak for iraq? not only are they fighting isis, but they may be having a fight with the sunnis and the shias and trying to deal with that faction as well because, as we know, they need to form a new government and they are in the process of it. we'll see if that is making any progress in any way. we know that president obama is returning to washington from martha's vineyard today. topping his agenda whether to send u.s. warplanes into syria after isis in response to the execution of american journalist james foley. the pentagon's been conducting surveillance we understand, surveillance flights along iraq's border with syria to bolster u.s. intelligence. let's talk to retired colonel
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robert mcginnis and peter neumann in london who is the director of the international center for the raddicization and political violence. i want to start with you. do you think air strikes in syria are imminent and are they enough? >> well, as the chairman, general dempsey said the other day, you cannot fight isis without going into syria one way or the other. either from the air or the ground. so it's obvious with the especially isis focused on the eastern part of that country you must pursue them and you're going to do that from the air, at least initially. and then of course i think eventually you're going to have to have some ground presence in order to root them out of the towns and villages that they are already located in. >> when you say ground presence, do you mean a ground presence of american troops or someone else? >> i suspect we will have special forces people eventually in those locations, as far as
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large numbers of u.s. i don't anticipate that at this point. we'll have to see whether or not we have coalition of the willing, maybe the turks, maybe the jordanians, perhaps even peshmerga which i doubt. but the iraqis clearly, if they can disenfranchise themselves from some of their previous issues then perhaps they can be involved. but you have to have ground forces and they have to be well led and covered with air. >> so peter, you talked about this last hour about how there has to be a ground presence as well. but i believe you were the one saying that it would be not a u.s. ground troop. what do you make of what's happening in iraq right now, however, not just with the fight against isis, but you've got sunnis and shiites that still seem to be fighting each other outside the isis presence. >> i think that's a very
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important piece, and i think that the success of isis can only be explained if you take into account that there has been a very sharp and aggressive confrontation in iraq between sunnis and shias. the sunnis have felt disenfranchised over the past year or so by iraqi government which was seen as openly sectarian and openly siding with the shiites. and it is on the back of that that isis articulating sunni grievances has been able to become so powerful. so ultimately of course on the iraqi side of the equation, it will be necessary to have a political solution in addition to the military one, which is essentially an inclusive iraqi government so that sunnis again feel comfortable being part of the iraqi state, and no longer feel that they need to fight the shiites and need to support isis. >> one of the other big points of contention i think in this
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fight has been the fact that there has been no real presence from other arab nations with this. what do you think, colonel, about the plausibility of some sort of coalition, either you know, with the europeans or the arab nations stepping up in some regard? >> yeah, i don't see the europeans getting involved in the fight at this point, even though they do have i think a stake. i do believe that the turks may show some willingness. they aren't arabs but they have a vested interest in keeping the syrian border more neutralized. clearly it's not at this point. i don't know the saudis may have an interest here and they may be willing to do something. certain think jordanians which are a good ally of the u.s., and have an effective fighting force, they eventually may want to get involved in this particular fight. but beyond that, i don't really see a significant arab element, not the egyptians, and certainly
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not any of the persian gulf emirates. >> we were talking about this village of amerli, there are about 17,000 people there and the u.n. says the situation there is unspeakable, they had no water, electricity has been cut off for two months, they fear a slaughter. we saw u.s. air strikes protecting villagers escaping to mount sinjar. do you think, peter, we will see america come to the aid of this village as well? >> i think it would be plausible because what's going on here is very similar to what we saw with the yazidis a week ago. what isis is doing, it is rather than fighting and taking these places, it is surrounding them, it is laying siege on them, it is essentially starving people to their death until theythey're leave and are slaughtered or give up. so this is a terrible and very horrible tactic that they are
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using. i think based on the precedent that was created last week and two weeks ago with the yazidis it would be plausible for us to see a similar scenario. >> and lieutenant colonel mcginnis, what are the dangers for the u.s. going into syria without the invitation of the syrian president? >> clearly, that is a marker. it indicates that we're involved in a civil war, we've taken sides. now, in this particular case it's interesting that the people we've condemned for some time we're taking sides with essentially trying to preserve some modicum of peace, and 200,000 innocents have lost their lives over the last few years. that is significant, i think once you are in, incrementalism start to erode your willingness or your situation. so it could be that we will eventually escalate our activities and our presence there, which is a danger.
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>> thank you so much for breaking it down for us as we continue to watch the situation unfold. we appreciate your guidance. >> thank you. thousands of people are expected to attend tomorrow's funeral for missouri teen michael brown. no the community's mourning, the streets are still filled with anger toward police. and now the president is stepping in, are there going to be big changes for police departments nationwide. isis demanded this woman's release in return for james foley. who is she? why was she one of the most wanted women in the world? during the day, we generate as much electricity as we can using solar. at night and when it's cloudy, we use more natural gas. this ensures we can produce clean electricity
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welcome back. 11 minutes after the hour. now after more than two weeks violent protests and looting, the military style policing in the streets of ferguson, missouri, the community is preparing to say good-bye to michael brown. he's that unarmed teenager who was shot and killed by a police officer on august 9th. his funeral will be held tomorrow at the friendly temple missionary baptist church in st. louis. thousands of people from the local area, around the country, they are expected to attend the service. it will be a closed ka ket service. including three white house officials including one who attended high school with brown's mother. the reverend al sharpton will deliver the eulogy. as brown is laid to rest supporters of the officer who killed him, they are speaking out and say they received death threats over their support for wilson.
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listen. >> our mission is to formally declare that we share the united belief that officer wilson's actions were warranted and justified. we believe that the evidence has and will continue to validate our position. the media will ask for my name, job titles, stories, et cetera. you want my name, my name is darren wilson. we are darren wilson. >> we also heard from protesters earlier in the week in favor of brown who say their names are michael brown as well. now, here on the ground in ferguson, relatively, it was a quiet night. at one point captain ron johnson ordered police to arrest a rowdy protester, he feared his behavior would insight some violence. in all six people were arrested overnight. there were some tense moments between the people who live in this community in jennings,
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which is nearby, from st. louis and people who came from michigan, from indiana one man said he was from that state. there are a lot of people here not just because of what happened in the michael brown situation, but because of their own children, because of their father, their grandfather. i met a woman last weekend who said she was here because her grandfather once bred dogs and she said white men would come in and shoot those dogs. she was here for her grandfather. i want you to listen to a woman i met a few hours ago. she has a 26-year-old son. listen to what she is here night after night. >> i've been blessed at having been my son. i can't. >> highway old is your son? >> 26 years old. my son is highly intelligent, college graduate, but it doesn't matter to them. it doesn't matter. it doesn't. it's not me today but it could be me tomorrow. >> you say them, who are they?
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>> you know who them are, the police officers that you see today. there's no respect for the black people in any community. let alone this one. you could be harassed, beaten, lied about, planted drugs on whatever they want to do. enough is enough. when is enough enough? >> it's two weeks. >> it can be two years and i'm going to be here. i'm going to be here if it's two years. >> if you watched the coverage of the unrest here in ferguson, you have obviously seen the images like this one, military vehicles, armored vehicle, rolling through the streets. i think we have the video. and local police armed with semi-automatic weapons. nationwide those military style tactics are criticized and now president obama is getting involved. let's bring in alina machado. how is the president getting involved? >> a senior administration
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official tells cnn the president ordered a review of a federal program that allows local and state law enforcement agencies to purchase military equipment, this move comes days after those violent confrontations you mentioned that took place here in ferguson, missouri, between police and protesters. confrontations where we saw authorities using military style tools in terms of heavily armored vehicles, and stun grenades and tear gas. those images raised questions about whether these departments should even have these tools. but listen to what one expert told us what he thinks the real problem is. >> training is the most important issue here if there was better training, we wouldn't have seen what we saw on day one out in ferguson. you had local law enforcement responding to a riot with semi-automatic and automatic
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weapons. it was wrong. it shouldn't have happened. but you cannot diminish the ability of local and state law enforcement to protect our cities in this day and age by taking the stuff away that really secures our country. >> reporter: and this review we're told will be looking at the training that these officers are getting when they do get this military equipment. victor. >> alina, thank you. christi, what we saw last night from the highway patrol is that they were definitely visible. you could see a large police presence, however, they were removed somewhat. the protesters were on one side of the street, they were on the other. only crossed that street was -- if there was some gathering, if people stopped and started to mill about. that's when they would ask people to move it along. >> thank you, victor, so much. you are giving us a great sense of what's going on there.
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>> we also need to talk about isis because i don't know if you're aware but they made two demands before the beheading of an american journalist, one was money, the other was a trade. what do we know about this prisoner isis wanted to swap? we're taking a look at the woman known as lady al qaeda. from whole grain oat foods like cheerios can help lower cholesterol. thank you! ithought to the acidityh in any foods. never thought about the coffee i was drinking having acids. it never dawned on me that it could hurt your teeth. he told me to use pronamel. it's going to help protect the enamel in your teeth. it allows me to continue to drink my coffee, and it was a real easy switch to make.
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offered a prisoner swap, in exchange for foley they wanted a woman released who is serving 86 years in a texas prison. jean introduces us to lady al qaeda. >> what i'm saying is simply that the woman is not an unpaid slave. >> this is dr. aafia siddiqui called lady al qaeda. a pakistani national, her release was one of the demands by isis in exchange for james foley before he was beheaded. in an e-mail sent to foley's family august 12, isis wrote we have also offered prisoner exchanges to free the muslims in your detention like our sister, dr. aafia siddiqui. >> she is an icon. she is the poster girl for jihad and in that way she serves as a rallying point. >> she is the premiere symbol of
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the muslim woman in distress. >> she earned degrees from m.i.t. and brandeis university. this petite woman, a neuroscientist and mother of three lived in the u.s. more than a decade and in 2003 disappeared. in 2004 was put on an fbi alert list considered a clear and present danger. in 2008 she was stopped by afghanistan national police for acting suspicious outside a government building. according to court documents officers searched her handbag and found numerous documents describing the creation of explosives, chemical weapons and other weapons involving biological material and radiological agents. handwritten notes referred to a mass casualty attack listing various locations including the empire state building, wall street, and the brooklyn bridge.
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when american authorities came to question her the next day she grabbed one of their rifrles and started shooting. she was flown to the u.s. where she was never charged with terrorism but convicted of attempted murder. she claimed she was framed. >> she interrupted her trial repeatedly with heated outbursts, anti-semitic outbursts about jews, all kinds of things. the judge found that she was mentally capable of standing trial but that she needed some sort of treatment and that's why he sentenced her to a prison in texas where she is able to receive psychiatric care. >> she also has a notorious in-law. she married the nephew of khalid chic mohammed behind the 9/11 attacks. >> is he is a scientist or a terrorist? >> she is definitely a terrorist sympathizer. no doubt about that. and she was helping terrorists.
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but she was never -- never been accused of actually committing a terrorist act herself. >> whether she is commit add terrorist act or not isis clearly considers her to be of great value. jean casarez, cnn, new york. >> it could be weeks before a grand jury decides whether to charge officer darren wilson in the death of michael brown. we're having a look at some of the steps ahead inside the courtroom as the community attempts to uncover the truth here. plus, the alert level is on for a volcano in iceland. travelers are watching hoping it does not blow its top. ups is a global company, but most of our employees live in the same communities that we serve. people here know that our operations have an impact locally. we're using more natural gas vehicles than ever before. the trucks are reliable, that's good for business. but they also reduce emissions, and that's good for everyone. it makes me feel very good about the future of our company.
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morning and be able to relax a little bit. i hope that's what you're finding and sunday has been good to you. i'm christi paul. we have more on ferguson, the isis threat in a moment. i want you to hear a couple of other stories this morning. one, ukraine is celebrating its independence day. a military parade moved through the capital city even as fighting continued in the east in territories held by pro-russian rebels. a convoy of russian trucks are back in russia. moscow said the trucks carried humanitarian aid. >> two, the ivory coast is closing borders because of the ebola outbreak. a british man in sierra leone has tested positive. the man was a volunteer nurse. hundreds of suspected cases have been reported from guinea,
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sierra leone and nigeria. three, this came in a couple minutes ago it is official, tropical storm chris toochristo formed. there was minor flooding, landslides. the slow moving storm expected to continue to gain strength as it moves north in the atlantic. again it is officially formed. four, iceland has closed air space near the bardarbunga volcano indicating eruption is imminent. if it does it likely will stay underground. the volcano is on a route for europe-bound flights. the ash poses a high risk for pilots, not only reduces visibility but can damage jet engines as well. and five, thousands rallied in new york for eric garner, a black man who died when an
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officer put him in a choke hold. demonstrators marched from where he died to the staten island d.a.'s office. the officer has been put on modified assignment and police are reviewing training procedures now. of course, everybody prepares for the funeral of michael brown tomorrow, victor blackwell is there in ferguson, missouri. and fortunately victor, you tell us it's been a quiet night there. >> yes. six arrests overnight compared to a few days ago 47 arrests in the night. so relatively quiet. there were some tense moments but peaceful for the most part. as you mentioned michael brown's funeral is tomorrow. we know that there will be three white house officials attending. after the funeral the focus will be squarely on the investigation. specifically, the grand jury process here in st. louis
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county. and if they will determine if there is enough evidence to charge officer darren wilson. we have with us legal analyst and defense attorney joey jackson. let's talk more about the grand jury process. there's a lot we will not know about them because of the inherent secrecy of the process. we know that the 12-member panel consists of three black members, nine white members. is there -- i'll tell you there is a concern but is there a warranted concern, a valid concern because of the racial makeup of the grand jury? >> well, you know what happens, good morning. ultimately the grand jury as we know will be presented with all of the evidence in the case and they have to make a decision. now, understanding of course that of the 12 members of the grand jury, nine of them have to vote an indictment. indictment would be accusation, it doesn't establish guilt, it doesn't say you are automatically as a result of it culpable for anything. let the trial process continue.
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so by virtue of the grand jury process the first thing that we have to understand is that they are merely there to determine whether there is probable cause to believe that a crime was committed and that darren wilson committed it. in terms of the racial composition it is of concern and the reason it's of concern because it goes to issue of relateability. many will say that although the actual county because the pool is drawn, the grand jury pool is drawn from the county it reflects that is the grand jury composition reflects the demographics of the county but it doesn't reflect of ferguson itself. so the question becomes if there are nine white jurors and three african-american jurors, it's an issue of relateability. different races may perceive threats differently, difference races may perceive the conduct differently. but that's a system we have so we have to put the trust in the system that all of the evidence will be presented and that the grand jurors will get it right, whatever right means to them. having heard and listened to the
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evidence. >> let's talk about the process because i think people are used to hearing about sequestration for trial juries, but these jury members will go home and likely watch the media coverage of this case. what could be the impact of that if any? >> you know what, it is always a concern and of course the judge instructs them to evaluate the case based upon the evidence that they will have. and the evidence that they have, victor, will be the eyewitnesss, some of which are corroborating each other, some of which may be conflicting. they will have access to the autopsy report, they will have access to toxicology, they will evaluate any forensic evidence with respect to the car itself and if there is dna, if michael brown on the car or not, on the gun s there not. so they will take into account everything ultimately that is considered in that room. is there always a chance that outside influence can creep in? that friends that they have, have issues and have concerns about the case and opinions about the case. that media and reporting it have
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opinions and comments, of course. but the instruction is by the prosecutor that listen, you are to evaluate this case based on what we present you here, ideally victor, that's how it's supposed to work and we have to trust that's how it will work so that there could be justice at the end of the day for michael brown and his family. >> you know, we had a defense attorney on yesterday talking about darren wilson, the officer who shot and killed michael brown and i asked him, did he think that wilson should speak out, and he said that he thought it would be a good idea to hear his side of the story, to do a television interview possibly. what do you think? >> well, you know, as it relates to that, from a defense attorney's perspective you never want your client saying anything. why? because what happens is then you're locked into a story. that raises really two issues. one of which is whether or not darren wilson will testify in front of the grand jury. if he is invited to testify which presumably he will whether his lawyers will take the
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opportunity to put him in the grand jury. the concern if that happens from a defense attorney's point of view is that you are locked into an actual narrative there so in the event a trial there is any way shape or form it's inconsistent you are attacked there. with regard to whether you should go into the grand jury and testify, you know, i never advise my clients to do it absent extenuating circumstances. then of course the issue about whether he should go and testify in the media and talk about what happened. that certainly is not advisable. his attorney should be talking for him but i think the larger issue here is the public's right to know. the transparency of the process, what exactly happened, releasing of information and obviously there are multiple sides and people want to hear his side. if that side is divulged it should be by his lawyers, not him himself from a legal perspective that would be the way to go. >> a lot to weigh. good to get your perspective. thanks for being with us this morning. >> pleasure and a privilege. be well. you too.
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christi, that's something we are hearing about johnsen. they have done television interviews f. this goes to trial there will abdefense attorney who tries to pick apart the differences even the subtle differences between what dorian johnson tells us or another outlet and try to use that to discredit their story. >> very good point there, victor. hey, thank you so much. there is a new twist to one of the most controversial stories in sports t "washington post" editorial board says they will never again use the word redskins when referring to the popular football franchise. and they might be kids but they are giants on the field, people. a team from the windy city is a win away from a world championship. [ female announcer ] birdhouse plans. nacho pans. glass on floors. daily chores. for the little mishaps you feel use neosporin to help you heal.
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a 6.0 earthquake hit northern california early this morning. this is according to the u.s. geological service. we want to throw this map up so you can see the location. it's north of san francisco. i believe near vallejo. this is in american canyon, california. southern napa county. apparently they felt it all the way through san francisco's bay area. but that is the latest. 6.0, in fact, somebody tweeted me. i might have seen instagram as well. thank you for letting us know. let us know what you're seeing if you're in the area and if you woke up from it because after all, it is so early in the morning there. 3:42 for you right now. but hopefully everybody is okay. we don't have reports of injury or damage at this moment but as soon as we get more information we'll bring it to you. wishing the best for everybody out there. let's talk about this win.
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what a big one for the guys from the south side of chicago. the great lakes champs, jackie robinson west, beating las vegas 7-5. this is an all african-american team that trailed before rallying in the fifth inning to take the lead. and now they face south korea for the little league world series title later today. good luck to you boys. we are cheering for you. you can now add the local paper to the growing list of those who want the nfl's redskins to change their names. as of friday t "washington post" editorial board made this call to stop using the controversial word redskins when referring to the popular franchise. we'll quote from the paper. we wait for the national football league to catch up with thoughtful opinion and common decency we decided except when it's essential for clarity or effect we will no longer use the slur ourselves. that's the standard we apply to all offensive vocabulary and the
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team name unquestionably offends not many native americaning but other americans too. mike, so glad to have you with us. >> good morning. >> good morning to you. what was the final straw for you that made you all make this decision? >> well, i can't speak for the editorial board because i'm a sports columnist and they make their own decisions, and to be clear, the news pages of the newspaper, if you open up the sports pages, they will still use it. columnists are allowed, i haven't used it in a year and a half in my own column, but the editorial board had come out against the name back in 1992. i felt like they couldn't write -- get into all of the details but the bottom line is not only is it a dictionary defined slur, i also feel like they kept coming out against the
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name in their editorials, at some point to even use it was almost going against their own principles. that's my own feeling about it. >> in fact, you even wrote that this quote four decade old controversy now bubbling to the surface as it never has before. why do you think now it's happening? >> a few reasons. one is, two years ago they drafted a quarterback out of baylor that was the heisman trophy winner. robert griffin iii almost by himself single-handedly made the team, part of the national conversation again. people who talk about this franchise under dan snyder's ownership talked about the fact that it had one playoff win in 15 years. all of a sudden this guy takes off and people start talking about it again. i also think there was symposium at the national museum of the national indian in february that
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brought all scholars, native american activists and a lot of other people together that filled up that conference room that got much media attention. then a month later march of 2013 there was the court case t trademark case was renewed and finally, the sovereign nations like the oneida nation got on board and started their change the mascot campaign and bought radio ads across america and all of a sudden native americans have had a voice like they haven't in decades about this. >> redskins owner daniel snyder says he will never change the name. you think that -- you think that will change and what do you think it might take to convince him? >> christi, i'm going to digress a second. i forgot to mention him saying never was like essentially putting a chip on his shoulder and asking people to knock it off. and i think, i don't know you
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are probably too young to remember the robert conrad commercials but he was inviting people to challenge him. it was the worst possible thing he can do. people that were on the fence said wait, this guy's not going to even meet with the offended? this billionaire owner of a professional football team will not meet with the offended and he still hasn't to this day. so i'm sorry, the last part of it, you asked when will this change? i wouldn't be shocked within two years if he doesn't change and develop an exit strategy on his own, he will be made to change by the commissioner of the nfl, or patent court. >> mike wise of the "washington post," we so appreciate your insight. thanks for thinking that i'm younger than i am. i actually do remember that commercial. but i'll take it. thank you. >> have a great day. >> you too. let me ask you, i don't know if you thought about this before. what does one wear to a red
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taylor swift and usher. should be a good one. the vma's would be one rein they decided to show the emmys on monday. the first time the awards show has not aired on a weekend since 1976. so, is it going to make for less star studded red carpet? nischelle turner checked it out. >> the prime time emmy awards. >> i demand a trial by combat. >> it may not be the game of throwns but the stakes are high for nominees hoping to turn an emmy win into gold. >> the emmys have been a big help to newcomers. in terms of what they are worth they are a bigger deal. >> ratings aren't a concern for hbo show about death and dragons, it also earned the most nominations of any show this year with 19. but it's facing tough competition in the best drama category. many experts say that breaking bad's final season makes it the
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favorite. >> everything is going to be fine but we need to leave right now. >> leading man bryan cranston is nam nominated for best actor 18 drama. he could lose out to the man who just won a best actor oscar. >> our fate. >> i think this is the year of matthew mcconaughey. i think it's natural if he has a big emmy contender we'll say he'll probably win that too. >> as the star of true detective mcconaughey would have to beat out not just cranston but including his co-star woody harrelson and mad men's jon hamm who has been nominated seven times and never won. >> i worry about a lot of things. but i don't worry about you. >> modern family goes into emi night on a four-year winning streak in the best comedy category. the biggest obstacle to a fifth emmy, a newcomer. on netflix. >> looks like orange is the new black could upset modern family.
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>> if there was a theme this year it might be how the television academy has recognized so few shows from the networks that used to be in control. >> remember the good old days of cbs, abc, nbc, even fox? where are they in these emmys? really, they have been just o r overwhelm overwhelmed. >> best chances in the drama and comedy categories might be in the lead actress in a drama where the good wife's jeeliana mar go lease is one of the favori favorites. >> you're fired. >> no. >> and all of the drama and comedy will play out monday on television's biggest night. nischelle turner, cnn, hollywood. president obama is going to be leaving martha's vineyard tonight to head back to work tomorrow. what's he coming back to? we know the crisis in iraq a potential air strike in syria, war raging between hamas and
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kristobal formed in the last hour. now that it's over open water it will have a chance to get its act together impacting turks and caicos, southern bahamas, and it moves to the north-northwest it will have small impacts on the southeast coast of florida. so we're going to watch it very closely the coming days. there is a little bit of uncertainty in the track. that's why it's so important. right now winds of about 45 miles per hour moving to the northwest at nine miles per hour. this is the track from the national hurricane center. staying a tropical storm over the next couple of days. thursday or so possibly a category 1 hurricane off the outer banks, then pushing out to sea. there has been a lot of variation in this track. that's why it's very important to stay updated, hour by hour, day by day, because this track has taken a lot of different twists and turns, so we're going to monitor it. of course if it does keep on this track, we will expect higher than normal surf, also expect rip currents along the
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east coast, so something to watch over the next couple of days. >> hey jennifer, thank you so much. thank you for starting your morning with us. "new day" continues right now. all righty. it's 7:00, we're barreling through the morning here with you. so grateful for your company. i'm christi paul at cnn headquarters in atlanta. missing my cohort victor blackwell doing important work in ferguson, missouri. good morning, my friend. >> good morning, christi. i'm victor blackwell. we'll have the latest on the michael brown shooting and the protests in a moment. and really, one of the remarkable ironies of what's happened over the last couple of weeks. >> yeah. he's going to talk about that with a man who we need to get perspective from for certain. >> we are hearing more about the
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6.0 earthquake that woke up residents in northern california this morning. take a look at the map that we made for you here. you can see its exact location t epicenter was 6 miles south of napa and 51 miles from sacramento. luckily we're not hearing reports of injuries, not hearing reports yet of damage. but apparently it was pretty frightening for some. jim daniels on my -- this wasn't on my facebook, this was my twitter page. wrote that he saw -- it lasted longer than he thought it would. he says i live 10 miles from san francisco, i'm used to quakes but when they last as long as this one you get scared and you get out of the house. we're waiting as it just happened here and we're going to get new information. but there is a live picture from san fran. it looks beautiful, peaceful at the moment. but apparently this one did definitely rattle some nerves. we'll get to the you as soon as
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we can. in the meantime, we need to talk about president obama who is weighing his next step in syria. as isis militants threaten yet another town right across the border in iraq. the united nations says it fears that militants will slaughter thousand who is live in amerli. i want to show you the map. nearly three dozen villages surrounding amerli are already under isis control, this is a city or a village of about 17,000 people and the u.n. says the situation there is unspeakable. president obama meanwhile returns to washington from martha's vineyard later today. and atop the agenda whether to send warplanes to syria and take the fight against isis there after they killed american journalist james foley. isis of course. cnn white house correspondent joining us. also joining us douglas olavant from washington, the director for the security council during the bush and the obama administrations.
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michelle, thank you, but has the president tipped his hand in any way as to whether he is going to order air strikes or what it will take for him to do so? >> we heard the president sort of lay out an argument for why this is such a threat, why it's a bigger threat than it was, say, six months ago. talking about having to excise this cancer before it spreads. also telling the syrian people that the u.s. stands with them. so, he sort of laid out how large this threat was. also careful to define isis as a threat to muslims as well, both sunni and shia muslims. so that almost laid the groundwork for what we think we will see happen here. it's from others within the administration, especially from the department of defense over the last few days, that it seems like from what we're hearing and from the way it is said, that this is likely to happen with air strikes in syria, the question is when and under what
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legal justification they will do so. and we heard from other members of the president's administration a little more detail on that. so, i feel like the open way that they are able to talk about it now is clearly on the table, it is openly discussed what would have to happen has been talked about. the different options. the president is not at this point saying that he has made that decision, christi. >> douglas, i want to move to you now. the pentagon is saying limited air strikes are sufficient. do you believe that to be the case? >> i think limited air strikes are sufficient for what the president is trying to do now. which is just prevent the spread of isis. and protect some of these small humanitarian cry sees like we saw in sinjar though as you pointed out we now have the situation at amerli with a different ethnic group that has been resisting the push from isis, and most people expect things to go very hard for those people should isis break through. so that's a situation we'll need to monitor. but looking at syria, the
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problem simply hasn't gotten any better. it's a stubborn fact that if you want to take on isis as chairman dempsey said you have to engage it on both sides in iraq and syria but as michelle alluded to the legalities in syria are more complicated. we can bomb in iraq because the iraqis invited us. that's not the case in syria. nor has the syrian civil war gotten simpler in the last two or three weeks. >> good point. michelle, what's the likelihood congress would back air strikes in syria? >> at this point it seems very likely. the murder on tape of james foley, the fact that other americans are hostages in syria, politically also it seems like it's a foregone conclusion that congress would find this necessary. we've been hearing from some top democrats as well agreeing that the justification seems to be there at this point, likely for something limited. and again t way the president has laid it out as well as others in the administration, that first and foremost it's
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protecting american interests, then humanitarian needs in this region, knowing that americans are held hostage and their lives hang in the balance in syria seems like a pretty good groundwork for gaining support and starting that legal justification for doing something in syria. remember, the justification was there for americans to go in and try and rescue these hostages. that's different from air strikes but going into another country to try to save those lives, that was justified. this would be a next step if there is no improvement, knowing that the hostages are still there in fact, i mean, it really plays on the heart strings of americans and others around the world. >> douglas, bob mcginnis said earlier today he does believe in some capacity there will have to be some sort of boots on the ground to conquer isis. do you believe that to be true as well? >> i think it's too early to say that. not necessarily. it is still possible, i think,
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for us to put together a coalition of the willing of local partners, not just the iraqi army and the peshmerga. the iranians are helping, we've seen some mother kurdish groups, the pkk out of turkey. they are a designated terrorist group but they were instrumental in helping break the siege at sinjar and helping the yazidis. >> i want to ask you who are the u.s. allies in this when you talk about a coalition, i know we have what needs to be a coalition in iraq but in terms of other countries, in terms of the uk or anybody in europe or other arab nations, who are the the allies in this fight? >> i think we're seeing in the fight against isis, a realignment. we're finding ourselves very reluctantly on the same side with the iranians. in this very, very limited sense of wanting to defeat isis in iraq and syria. i think we'll see help from the other allies in terms of air
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power, the british are with us, i suspect the french will come along. i don't think it's 18 anyone's interest right now to put u.s. or other european boots on the ground. there's no appetite for that in u.s. politics and i think there is no appetite for that in iraqi politics. >> michelle and douglas, appreciate both of you so much. thank you for being here. >> we want to take you back live to ferguson, missouri in a couple minutes. the name of the officer who shot and killed michael brown has become a household name in some regards. we're meeting the other darren wilson who has been threatened online. and he also has a lot to do with police departments. also twitter is lighting up this morning, look at the pictures. thank you for sending them of the earthquake in california, we'll share more, tell you what's going on in a moment. ♪
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after more than two weeks of violent protests, sometimes violent protests, mostly peaceful though, looting, shooting military style policing in the streets of ferguson, missouri the community is now preparing to say good-bye to michael brown. he's the unarmed teenager shot and killed by a police officer back on august 9th. his funeral will be held tomorrow at the friendly temple missionary baptist church in st. louis. thousands of people are expected to attend. it will be a closed casket service. among the attendees three white house officials including one who attended high school with brown's mother. the reverend al sharpton will deliver the eulogy. supporters of darren wilson the officer who killed him are
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coming forward to defend him. they say they received death threats, now on both sides there has been an outpouring of support from complete strangers, donation page set up to support the brown family has raised more than $200,000. the supporters of officer wilson have raised more than $340,000. here in ferguson, i was out with the protesters last night to get a feel for what was happening. it was a relatively quiet night. some tense moments you see captain ron johnson he ordered police to arrest a rowdy protester who says he was from indiana. he feared that person would insight violence that we've seen over the past few weeks. six people were arrested overnight. the officer who killed michael brown, he has become a household name. it's complicated matters for another man named darren wilson who also happens to be a police officer. he joins me now. officer wilson, is as you can
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see african-american here. he has been in law enforcement for 18 year, works for the police force in st. louis, he is president of the ethical society of police. it's good to have you with us this morning. >> good morning. >> first, when that name was announce what had did that mean for you, for your family? >> it was a concern. definitely a lot of calls came in, the family was concerned about the entire family's safety. only because we know that there's a lot of tension. >> you had to leave your house for a period. >> i did. we elected to leave for a while. >> things have calmed down now? >> yeah. >> so, from what you know now, the big question, what you know now and there are lots of facts that have to be gathered, can you make a decision or a judgment that the other officer wilson, did he make -- was it a legitimate use of deadly force? >> that's a question that right now no one know. the police department and now the fbi, whoever it is
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investigating it, has to let that process carry out. what we're more so interested in, though, is the after action to the incident. and that is that any police department or any elected official, city official, government official, has a responsibility to the community, so in law enforcement we understand that things are going to happen. that could be anything from issuing a ticket, making an arrest or even using a degree of force. however, oftentimes when something in law enforcement has happened, members of the community have questions. what you cannot do is disregard that community. so it appears as if a lot of the tension has been a result of the disregard, the lack of information that the community got following that and they wanted to ensure, they wanted to be reassured that a proper and thorough investigation would ensue or follow, and they just
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were not getting that. so from there is where you see a lot of the protesting and then of course the unfortunate incidents of the rioting and other acts of violence. >> the question now is can this be reconciled? do you think there can be reconciliation between the ferguson community and the ferguson police department? >> it can be. it will be a process. we're not sure exactly how long that process will be. the ethical society of police has been in touch with some of the government agencies and other organizations to see what we can do to alleviate some of those tensions and ensure that there will be a balance within that -- not only ferguson police department but police departments across the country. that being said, that's not going to be an overnight process. a couple things we're hopeful for, if the community knows that they have some ambassadors, they have some supporters on their
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side from the official side that they will begin to see that things are developing in a positive aspect, progressively, that will balance the police department in this local community and also throughout the region. >> you know, you talk about balance. how does it happen? you've got 67% black community, you have three of 53 officers are members of this force who are black. how does that happen and how does it change? >> that's a good question. the short answer is when you look at it is discrimination. what we alluded to has to be discrimination. because there's been many instances when the ethical society of police alone in what i'm learning now is that police departments across the country, i recently attended the national black police association conference, have been conducting lots of workshops, we have a lot of interest eed members with
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college degrees, a strong interest in law enforcement, but for whatever reason they are not getting hired at the rate that white interested citizens are getting hired at. we understand that there is certain criteria that must be met or qualifications that you have to have in order to be a police officer. but with that being said there's also -- so that's an objective component. you also have many subjective components. it appears as if a lot of the subjective components is disqualifying a lot of the qualified black applicants. >> sergeant darren wilson, asking covered this story for two weeks now, i can only imagine the response when this was announced and you're having that name and having to move your family. we're glad everything worked out with you. i thank you for your perspective. >> thanks for having me. and thanks for your support. >> certainly.
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breaking news this morning. the u.s. geological society just switched up what we had been calling a 6.0 magnitude earthquake is now a 6.1 for residents in northern california. take a look at some of the pictures. this is a live picture thanks to friends at kgo of san francisco. and there are cars moving along, everything seems fine. beautiful picture. the epicenter is only six miles out of napa. 51 miles from sacramento here. we're not hearing reports of injuries or damage at this time. pg&e is reporting on their website there are more than 15,000 homes in the napa region without electricity. so some intersupgss there. actually now that got up to 32,000. 32,000 homes without electricity. and thanks to all of you on twitter for sharing some of your -- and facebook, too.
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we started getting all of these pictures of broken dishes, cnn producer augie martin is on the phone from san francisco. thanks so much. i had somebody write saying that it felt like rolling long movements versus short ones. describe to me what you felt this morning. >> yes, that's right. typically, they either feel like a soft sort of rolling type earthquake or they have a very sharp sort of fast jolting type pace. this was definitely a softer rolling type earthquake. i'm about 25 miles from the epicenter in san francisco, and obviously depends on what type of soil you're on, those up in napa tend to be on more of a sand type soil, what used to be the bottom of the bay and san francisco some folks are on sand and some are on bedrock. so it really can depend on what type of ground you're on top of
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during the earthquake. to me, it certainly felt like a softer rolling type earthquake and that sounds like the majority of folks felt that way. >> jim daniels, on twitter or facebook said i had enough time to consider if i needed to get up, decide if i needed to grab anything, grab a sweater and shoes before it finally stopped so. the duration of this was what i think surprised a lot of people too. did you find that as well? >> yeah. i mean, you know, just when i first -- it felt like it lasted about 25 or 30 seconds. my kids woke up, my dog barked. you definitely knew it was a good size earthquake but to me it didn't initially feel like a 6.0 earthquake or 6.1 earthquake being a san francisco native, i felt a fair amount of these and i thought it was a lower earthquake than that. but you know, at least immediately after you don't know
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how close you were to the epicenter so that sometimes doesn't help not knowing how far away it was. yeah, it didn't necessarily feel like a 6.0 or 6.1 to me but i was 25 miles away from it. >> augie, we're glad you're okay and everybody there is okay. i wonder how animals reacted. somebody said the cats ran under the bed. thank you very much. we're going to talk to him more at 8:00 as we continue to follow this. and since i've been on air with you here in the last couple minutes, 42,000 people now reporting to not have power in the region. so we'll keep you posted at 8:00, thank you so much for starting your morning with us. right now sanjay gupta m.d. is coming up. stay close. if there was a pill
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