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you are in the cnn newsroom. i'm jim sciutto in new york. we are following two major stories today. the first in northern california, hit by the largest earthquake there in 25 years. damage is scattered and more than 100 people have been hurt. that's just ahead. first, wither also tracking a breaking story this hour out of the middle east. an american held by islamist rebels in syria for almost two years has been released. safely. peter theo curtis was captured in 2012. two u.s. law enforcement officials tell cnn the u.s. was not involved in talks to secure his release but the u.s. was aware of private efforts to gain his freedom. curtis was captured near the syrian bored we are turkey and released to u.n. peacekeepers today in the golan heights, that's right near israel. he is expected to be reunited with his family soon. in a statement just released by the family, theo curtis' mother
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had this so say, "my heart is full at the extraordinary, dedicated, incredible people, too many to name individually, who have become my friends and tirelessly helped us over these many months. please know that we will be eternally grateful. we are also so relieved that theo is healthy and safe and finally headed home after his ordeal but also deeply saddened by the terrorible, unjustified killing last week of his fellow journalist, jim foley, at the hands of the islamic state in iraq and syria." we are learning fascinating details on peter curtis' release. joining me now are cnn law enforcement analyst, tom fuentes and bob baer, used to be with the cia. first, bob, go to you. isis, we saw what they were capable of this week, the grisly killing of james foley, now see this, al us in rah, another group believed to be holding peter curtis releasing them. why that difference? why did foley die? why was curtis released? >> well, i think that us in rah
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is -- i wouldn't use the word moderate, but it is tameable. it's not completely radical group. it dogs want connections with the outside world. they have no inattention to set up a cal live fate or randomly hurt westerners. the family negotiate with this group and make them see reason. always the possible that somebody paid money, unbeknownst to the u.s. government or the famil family. >> the u.s. does not negotiate with terrorists when money is involved, won't pay ransom, says it was not directly involved with these negotiations. how would the u.s. look at negotiations like this through it appears the government of
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qatar where money might have been involved, where the end result, of course is a happy one, but the method may not have been one that the u.s. is comfortable with? how would the u.s. look at that? >> well, they may be monitoring what was going on in the negotiations. i think the main thing for the u.s. is to be able to deny if it paid a ransom or encouraged the payment of a ransom. however, as i said, if a ransom is paid by someone else, by a family or by an employer, that's different story. the u.s. does not obstruct someone else paying the ransom. >> that open the door for private efforts to use money where the u.s. says, listen, we don't like it, but if it's gonna happen out of our sight it can happen? doesn't that fuel the terrorist groups like the u.s. is concerned it would? >> yes, it does, but not a lot they can do to prevent that or don't want to get involved in seeming to obstruct a situation where a family or employer is
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negotiating. a tricking ya area, there are a number of countries that get involved in the negotiations, back and forth, a group that probably doesn't want to be categorized in the same way as isis and possibly have an attack on them. they want to, again, they are not moderate, but they are not as severely extreme as isis. >> and i just want to make clear to our viewers, we do not know that money was involved, still an open question. u.s. officials and others have not confirmed that bob, i want to talk about the isis threat in general. curtis security chief told cnn today that isis has not waivered from its mission but that it's strength is waning. listen to its comments. if i can, i want to get your reaction. >> mosul to them is very important. so they will probably fight to death to keep mosul and there are some key areas very important to them.
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that doesn't mean that they have given up attacking new areas. they are doing as, you know, if they can. but in general, we see that the they are much weaker now than they were days ago. >> so, weaker, bob, he says than they were days ago, presumably in part because of the effect of u.s. air strikes. do you buy that assessment? >> well, not exactly, because what's happening, jim, is that the sunnis in anbar province, where isis is operating, repeat to me over and over again they are not going back to the old agreement they had with baghdad, maliki broke that, they are not gonna let shia troops in their area and they will fight them alongside isis or by themselves. so, we are talking about a long-term conflict here, even if isis were defeated by -- from the air, if it withdrew to a couple of places, it withdrew back to syria, we would still see what i call an insurrection
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in the sunni area, which leads me to believe that we have to, you know, rejigger the agreement in iraq that's gonna look more like federalism than a completely united country. >> and you have this horrible killing at a sunni mosque just a couple of days ago, which the sunnis are blaming on she eyes and now suspended those political negotiations. tom, i wanted to ask you about another possible but extremely difficult negotiation, you have this odd circumstance now where the u.s. and the government of bashar al assad are on the same side, they are both against isis. do you see any circumstances where the u.s. could cooperate with its declared enemy, assad, against isis? >> yes. i think we could. and i think we may be. we don't know everything that goes on back channel and would include iran. you know, when it's in the country's interest to form an alliance with another country, you know, we often put aside whatever they stand for. look at world war ii, where we were allied with stalin. so, you know, we can pretty well
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form an alliance if we think it suits us for a given purpose at a given time. >> that's incredible thoughts, cooperation with syria, negotiations with a group like al nusra, messy situation there for sure. thanks very much, as always, to tom fuentes and bob baer. other big story following at home, governor jerry brown issuesing a state of emergency as clean jhun from a strong 6.1 earthquake begins across california. the epicenter, the small city of american canyon, california. but downtown napa took the brunt of the impact. historical buildings reduced to rubble. at least 120 people injured, six critically, including a young child. thankfully, no one was killed. across the region, entire stretches of roadway are split in two. you see one of them there the picturesque wineries that mark the napa country side received expensive damage. according to the u.s. geological survey, 15,000 people experienced severe shaking. want to bring in now cnn's kim la, live again in napa, california. we also have cnn meteorologist,
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chad myers, following the effects of the quake from atlanta. kim, let start with you, if i can, all the structural damage we are seeing, including what we have behind you there. where are local officials focusing their efforts and most worried about now? >> reporter: they are basically flooding the zone right now. we are still hearing sirens. they are still trying to get to -- responding to all the calls that are coming in. this has been happening throughout the day. you can still hear every once in a while a siren going off. what we are seeing here in downtown napa is they are going through and trying to tag every single building. over here, just a short time ago, you see that red sign? that mean it is a red tag. this building is essentially condemned. it is declared by the city simply too dangerous to enter. why? because look over here. this is all of the bricks that -- the sidewalk that people normally are sitting having coffee, enjoying lunch on a day like today. but those bricks came from up
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above. that gaping hole there, that wasn't there. that is what damage was done by the 6.1 earthquake. so, it's still this process of trying to figure out which buildings they can enter, which ones they can search, which ones are going to have to really watch if the aftershocks come. they are still also trying to piece together how many gas mains have been broken -- gas lines have been broken, water mains have been broken and also assess the injury, jim. there have been some 100 people injured, most of them are lacerations and cuts. and a lot of people near this community are simply shaken. it was quite a wakeup call that they got, 3 in the morning. a lot of them say that it was sheer terror, they felt, as they felt this quake. jim? >> i'm looking at some of that rubble behind you and the precarious, you know, situation with that roof kind of leaning on the edge, i imagine aftershocks are a major concern, particularly with buildings that have already been weakened by the first quake. >> absolutely. you're right.
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i'd love to give you a closer look of it but can he want get any closer because in part, if you stand too close to a building that is red tagged, has structural damage and then the aftershock comes, 5.0, which is -- a 50% chance of happening in the next week or so, according to seismologists, well, then that building could very easily come down. so, that's big concern. the police here are asking people, including the media, to keep their distance, a safe distance. >> all right. kim la, right by the epicenter. chad, we spoke earlier to richard allen, from uc berkeley. they have this early warning system, gave something of a warning. if you don't mind, i will play a little clip of what he had to say and come back for your reaction. >> a few seconds makes all the difference. so as individuals, you can take could have under a sturdy table and reduce the things that you have ceiling tiles, lightning fixtures falling on your head, many injuries caused by those kinds of things in a major earthquake, but also things like
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elevate kers open and you don't end up with hundreds of people trapped in elevator shafts, trains can slow and stop, the b.a.r.t. trains here in the san francisco bay area already uses our demonstration system. chemical facilities can isolate the chemicals set by reducing spills and things like that about chipping away at these things that cause all of the destruction and earthquake to reduce the overall impact. >> so, chad, i know you've taken a look at the system, just ten seconds but ten seconds, could it make a difference? >> it's ten seconds if you're that distance away, jim. they were a distance here that it takes the shaking to get to. the instantaneous message was the -- just -- speed of light. it's in a wire. it goes as fast as it can. so, that's instantaneous warning, boom, it's coming, but so the wave doesn't do that the wave doesn't go that fast. it goes slower. so, that's one second. there's two seconds. there's three seconds. here's the wave and four seconds.
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here's the wave in five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, and finally, to berkeley in ten seconds. so, if you're right at the epicenter, you don't get ten seconds. if you are farther near sacramento, you may get 30 seconds that would be plenty of time. the issue is by the time the wave gets to sacramento exit has attenuated to almost nothing much the real effort, the real positive part about this i think, is that three to five-second window where you're still very close to the epicenter, again with those b.a.r.t. trains, with the elevators, with all those things that people get stuck in, that's where the real value of this comes in. at ten seconds, yes, plenty of time to get under the doorway or outside. if you're in san francisco, that would have happened today. by the time the rumbling got there, wasn't really any damage in berkeley, the damage was done close to that epicenter, jim. >> at the epicenter, no chance for a warning. thanks very much to chad meyers in atlanta. still ahead this hour the damage and destruction caused by today's earthquake, we will have more of the amazing images. but first, a dire warning in one
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welcome back, i'm jim sciutto in new york. isis is on a killing spree, threatens an entire shiite town 100 miles from baghdad. the u.n. is warning from an ethnic maser in emmerly. sources tell cnn isis cut off the water and power supplies to the town, food is almost gone, medical supplies are scarce. british officials say they are close to identifying you the isis militant who beheaded american james foley last week. so, how did isis turn into a terror powerhouse so quickly and you account u.s. stop isis with air strikes alone? i want to bring in now shady ham mean, a fellow at brookings institution center for middle
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east policy and author of a new book called requests temptations of power, islamist and illiberal democracy in the new middle east." shady, i wonder if we could talk about isis, you make the point that isis, the difference between it and other extremist groups, it is not just a group that delivers terror, it also makes the trains run on time. it provides government services, health services, et cetera. how does it manage to do that and how important is that to its projection of power? >> exactly, jim. i mean this is a more sophisticated terrorist group, it's not -- not the old way of doing things in the early to mid-2,000s, where you had these groups that were intent on destroying and there was no real affirmative vision. isis now controls territory and under their rule, you have millions of people in both iraq and syria and they run local governments, they dispense justice with sharia courts. they have preaching bands --
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preaching bands to spread their message and try to bring young people into the organization. there's no doubt they are extremely vicious and brutal, but there's also a governance inside u with al qaeda before, there was no real seriousness about establishing a caliphate. but this is the real deal, in terms of not just talking about it in theory but actually following through with it. >> struck me the other day, i had heard that they are issuing license plates already in some of the towns they have taken over. this is a model we have seen for, before, hezbollah and lebanon, delivers health care services, has schools, et cetera. to your knowledge, do people on the ground, do some of them actually welcome isis when it comes, when it delivers these services? does it have a support, a business of support on the ground? >> sure. isis does actually have some local support. and that's why i think a lot of this rhetoric that isis is inexplicably evil, yes, they are
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evil, but we shouldn't let that underestimate who these guys are and what they are trying to do. at the same time, it's not as if they are the most popular group ever, but they do have pockets of support, especially in sunny majority areas. and that's the bigger context here, that there has been a failure of governance in iraq and syria and with this political and power vacuum, extremist groups like isis are able to come in and say, well, you might not totally agree with us, you might think we are too brutal, but we provide law and order. we actually run things. and you didn't really have that beforehand. so, in in that context, they are able to -- they are able to offer something that has some limited appeal. >> of course, we should remind viewers that's only true if you're a sunni muslim. if you're anything else, christian, i can'tz zeaddy, turkmens, the only answer from isis can only be death. you want to ask you, you make a
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broader point in your book, something of a depressing thought, right, possibly true, but a depressing thought, the idea that democratization in this region does not actually help get rid of extremism. can you explain why that is? so much faith has been placed in democratization by the bush administration, by the president obama, you are saying here it could empower radical groups like this. could you explain that? >> sure i, think democracy is in america's interest in the long run, but there is that short-term period where democracy makes things more messy, because under dictatorship, you had these -- these brutal autocrats who were suppressing sentiment, suppression the public. once you remove those dictators, a lot of those things come to the surface and you have people expressing their sectarian, religious ideological sentiments like never before.
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that's why i think you had, in part, the collapse of the arab spring because arabs and muslims, by and large, at least in the middle east, don't agree on the basics of the nation state and that's what we are a he seeing now. that includes a role of religion in public life. and that's why you have this lambist secular divide, which is tearing some countries apart. but even within the islamist scene, you have more extreme islamists like isis, less extreme islamists, like the islamic property in syria, so, there are just so many cleavages and divides along so many different levels right now. >> and the political systems cannot bridge those divides? thank you very much, shady hamid, the brookings institution, also the author of a new book called "temptation of power, islamist and illiberal democracy in the new middle easts request ". thank you for joining us. >> thanks for having me, jim. intelligence officials worldwide are working to identify the man who beheaded american james foley.
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today for the slain american journalist, james foley. foley's mother and father joined dozens of supporters at the service in his hometown of rochester, new hampshire. foley's parents stood in front of the mourners and gave thanks to everyone. the crowd then gave them a standing ovation. horrible day for them. the grisly video of foley's beheading by isis militant was circulated online last week around the world, but now, british officials tell cnn they are close to identifying the man who killed him. in addition to i.d.'ing foley's killer, investigators trying to determine exactly where he was murdered. the guardian newspaper, the website, belling cat, have been trying to narrow down the location where foley's murder took place. both suggest evidence points to raqqa, syria. that was determined by comparing satellite imagery to shadows and rocks seen on that videotape. i want to bring in our national security analyst, bob baer. bob, as you look at this, this is really a remarkable study, they used a lot of google earth
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images, satellite images, compared landscape on the ground, vegetation, roads, et cetera. you've done this kind of analysis in the past, i'm sure. how much can the objects tell us about the area and could that, based on the location, help i.d. the killer? >> well, jim, the experts tell me they can narrow down the location pretty well. i mean, embedded in digital images are things like temperature, humidity can be read. you can compare it with satellite photography. if this was in eastern syria, it is pretty flat landscape. i have been out there, but they can do amazing things with this. and sometimes, in these images, there's the gps coordinates are embedded. i doubt these people allowed that to happen. they probably turned those off, made sure they didn't have it. but the problem, jim, at this point, is they may have gone out in the desert and filmed this
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but at this point it the standard practice for people like this is to move the hostages immediately. so you know, we can tell where it occurred, but does that do anybody any good? >> that's question, that, of course, would be the first hope is it would help lead you to the others who have held there, including other americans who were held there. and just a reminder to our viewers, we are not showing the picture again of foley and his killer, just because we don't want to overuse that, that image, do is a grisly image and many of us here believe it would give something of a vickery to the group, holding it back, using it very measuredly. looking a this, bob, if intelligence services are able to identify the killer, do you think they could then find him, kill him perhaps, or would he already be going into hiding at this point? >> i would imagine he is going to stay with the group, keep fighting, somebody like this usually ends up dead own the
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battlefield but i think one day him down. as i understand, his accent is from east london. i think the british are very good at. this their records are they use algorithms, run it through travel and all sorts of things, they will probably narrow this down and identify him and he will be ant with aed man and justice will arrive one day. >> maybe someday, justice for the family, the family of the foal his. thanks very much, as always, bob baer. coming up next in cnn newsroom, a rally for peace under way right now in st. louis following the death of an unarmed african-american teen. we are going to take you there live right after a quick break. take 4 advil in a day or just 2 aleve for all day relief. honey, you did it! baby laughs!
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held at a baptist church in st. louis, up to 5,000 mourners are expected to attend. brown's extended family alone totals nearly 500 people. the white house is sending three officials to the service as well. hours ago, supporters of the officer who fatally shot brown marched on the streets in ferguson. those supporters say they have raised more than $400,000 for officer darren wilson. he has gone into hiding. our nick valencia joins us from st. louis, at this rally for police in support of michael brown and his family. what are you seeing there? what is the mood of the rally today? >> hey, jim, a fairly good turnout, when you consider how hot it's been here in st. louis t over the weekend, people have shown up to listen to music, gather, as the name suggests, peacefully in solidarity with michael brown, treated to music, vendors here, the focus today is on michael brown and michael brown's parents, who will come here to speak to this crowd what they have been going through the past two-plus weeks after their
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unarmed son was gunned down by officer darren wilson a short time ago, we saw a crowd of supporters off to the side of me there as sybrina fulton, the mother of trayvon martin, as well as her husband, expected tom brokaw here today, showed up a while ago, expected to be here to show support for michael brown's parents, the father of jordan davis, whose high-profile shooting captured headlines in 2012, jim, there when he was show in the a gas station in jacksonville. but really the main focus of today is michael brown and hearing what his parents have to tell those folks here that have shown up to show their support for him, jim. >> i so he that michael brown's father has called on the protest to be peaceful, both today and tomorrow, as the fine al takes place. are you feeling that's likely? are folks there concerned about folks taking a turn for the worse again tomorrow? >> reporter: when i first got
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here, i spent time in the community, where michael brown was shot and got the sense it was very tense. the smallest thing could set anyone off. though largely, since i've been here, things have been calm, things have really, as stephanie elam reported earlier, things have calibrated on either side, seen police checking each other, also seen those demonstrators, both wilson and for brown really take, you know, a calmer approach to their stance in favor of either side. so, things, while they may seem a little tense here, have not, for the most part, gotten out of control whatsoever, jim. >> that's great point, an encouraging point, seeing a change really in tactics but also leadership on both sides, right, to calm things down, the police changing their tactics, less confrontational, but also the protesters calming things down as well. >> reporter: yeah, absolutely i everyone really is looking forward to monday and that funeral for michael brown which will take police at 10 a.m. here local time. more than 5,000 people expected to attend.
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room for 2500 people in that church capacity, but they will have overflow rooms, people, celebrities expected to show up, politicians expected to show up as well as more than 500 family members, extended family members of michael brown. the focus really is on that, but here today, you know, it's hearing about what michael brown's parents have to say and really their struggle after losing their son and what they have gone through in these last two weeks. so people are braving the heat to hear what they have to say, jim. >> i will tell, nick, those images behind you so different from what we saw earlier in the week and last week, just after the shooting there so and the a he is good to see it, frankly. thanks very much to nick valencia in ferguson, missouri. still ahead there are lots of celebrities expected the tomorrow's funeral for michael brown in ferguson, but does that fame detract from the greater issues facing the community? we are going to take a closer look right after this break.
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thousands of people are expected to turn out tomorrow for the funeral of michael brown. he, of course, was the unarmed teen gunned down two weeks ago in a confrontation with police in ferguson, missouri. many nights of unrest and the aftermath caught the nation's attention, the world's attention. the question now is whether his funeral can help this community get back to something approaching normal. with us from los angeles is
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attorney areva martin and in ferguson, commentator, kevin jackson, author of "the big black lie" and exec spiff director of the blacks fear. areva, i wonder if i can start with you, so many questions unanswered. you have the possibility of a trial to come here, but do you think this funeral will bring something approaching closure or is it way too early to be discussing that? >> funerals are very important, particularly in the of a a.m. community, it is an important pa of our community. i think that is an important first step towards that closure. clearly as you said, jim, the grand jury, got to see all the evidence present there had, which will be presented in secrecy, because that's how grand juries work, but going to be these months, we have been told by the prosecuting attorney, it may take up until october for there to be some determination by that grand jury.
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i think for this community, which is what people are calling for, indictment of this officer, closure is going to be elusive in many ways for the larger community. >> let me ask you if i can, kevin, because this, of course, captivated the nation's attention including expressions of support from a number of celebrities, many are going to be turning up tomorrow. snoop dog, p. diddy and others. do you have any concern that this becomes something of a skeptical, spectacle, rather, that detracts from the larger and very important issues here? >> yeah, i think it is a very big concern. i think that the family appreciates the true heartfelt support for them losing their son, but i think that as you've described, this is going to be a spectac spectacle. being honest with you, most of these people have no concern at all for michael brown's death, or the death of many young black teenagers like him to die every single day all over this country. and i kind of find it as more of
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an i was there at ground zero approach to this celebrity, expect these guys to have t-shirts saying i was part of it or i did my support and i think it's a travesty, because there's a lot of deeper issues here that need to be -- need to be vetted out. i think that they will be over the next few months and unfortunately, i don't think it's going to be for the better. >> areva, you know, one of the deeper issues, you refer to this already, there's a criminal investigation under way here, the grand jury granted in secret, hearing evidence in this case against officer wilson. you're an attorney. based on your experience and the limited information that we've all been able to see so far, do you think the grand jury is likely to hand up an indictment? >> well, we know, jim there's tremendous pressure on the grand jury as well as on the prosecuting attorney. you know, there are 70,000 or so people who signed a petition asking the governor to remove the prosecuting attorney because there was some i shall because whether he could be, you know, fair and present a very objective case to the grand jury. i do think we are probably going
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to see some charges. i'm not certain it's going to be murder but i wouldn't be surprised if there's some kind of manslaughter that's, you know, indictment that is -- comes out of this grand jury. i think the eyewitness testimony, what we've heard about the medical examiner's report, there seems to be some mounting evidence that this unarmed teenager perhaps could have been apprehended in many other ways other than being shot six times. now, of course, there's evidenced that we haven't heard, which will come out in the grand jury. we won't know much about that. but i think the sentiment at this point is that there's probably going to be an indictment of this officer. >> so kevin, that trial will just or just the investigation, the possibility of a trial will certainly keep this conversation going. what is your take away from these past of weeks? it has been a jarring time for the country and it's been on the world stage, frankly, these images sent around the world. what do you think the lesson is, the message about race in america that you think people will take away from this, maybe a lesson they will learn from
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this? >> i think the sad lesson is that people are so willing to jump to a conclusion and i think that, you know, the lesson that's being lost is that black community leader hose have accomplished very little to change the idea around how this all happiness and how this type of thing gets created, we keep coming back to this idea of idle kids and no jobs, no opportunity, hopelessness and we continually look for places to blame and in this particular case, we want to blame the cops. that's like blaming the cops because there are no jobs in the community. the cops have to police. but what's createded this problem is these kids are idle, they don't feel like they have anywhere to go. they feel, as one kid put it, i feel like -- i don't remember his exact terminology, almost like he felt like an alien in his own country and the people alienating him are the black leaders, the civic leaders this don't bring jobs and then you go up to so in this case, there's a black state rep, you have got a
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black congressman over the area, you have got a member of the congressional black caucus, you have got barack obama, who says he is going to create jobs. but at the same time, we are trying to make this a cop problem. cops have a tough job and i think that, you know, just immediately running to demonize him is not the way to go. if this cop did something wrong, i hope they vet it out, i hope it's found out and he gets what's coming to him, but i don't think we should just be jumping to these conclusions that quickly. >> you make a great point. this has exposed so many issues, one, as you rightly point out, opportunity, the disparity in opportunity in this country. i appreciate you both joining us, areva and kevin, we look forward to talking to you again. the bay area hasn't been hit by an earthquake this strong in 25 years, now, napa and the surrounding area are face could be an expensive and exhausting rebuilding. more on, in northern california, right after this. you do a lot of things great.
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>> kind of a shock, the biggest earthquake i was ever been. i was asleep on the couch down stay, wake up, i thought it was thunderstorm and all of a sudden, i see the shand clear in the dining room shaking, everything -- things on tables falling off, i hear glass breaking, ran upstairs to regroup with my family, but even my little brother, he is 11 years old, he is startled and rattled as well. i was asleep and woken from my fairly deep sleep, felt like a ride, much like being on a roller coaster. felt much longer than it actually was, felt like it was occurring for about five minutes. >> i do not have power. do not have water. i'm -- first of all thankful that i'm okay and everyone i know is okay as well, too. >> it gives me the chills and this morning, when it was really quiet down here, it's like a scene out of a movie, it is like really crazy. >> looks like a typical kind of earthquake, the magnitude, much larger than we have seen for a
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long time. >> the hardest part was having to deal with the lack of water for the incident and knowing you had structures immediately threatened by the ones burning and pretty much knew you were destined to lose additional units would you that the water supply, having to look at something and get somebody out if you know that there wasn't a lot of hope of saving that particular unit was very difficult. we currently have four structures to the ground, mobile homes, and six to eight with varying degrees of damage. >> anybody hurt? >> at this time, we have no report of injuries and none of the occupants are reported missing associated with the units burned to the ground. >> we will have more on today's earthquake, including a live interview with california's lieutenant governor after a quick break. please stay with us.
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the shooting happened in the early morning hours at a party celebrating the in. tv video music awards. no arrests have been made and all three victims are expected to recover. this isn't the first time that knight was shot at a pre"vma" party. he was shot in the leg at a similar event back in 2005. now the emmys will be handed out tomorrow night and this year's ceremony may be more star studded than in years past. here's c in. n's michel-- here's cnn's niche turn we are a preview. >> the primetime emmy awards. >> i demand a trial by combat. >> it may be not the "game of thrones" but the stakes are high for nominees hoping to turn an emmy win into ratings gold. >> the emmys have always been a big help to newcomer bus in terms of what they're worth to the industry now, it seems like they have become a much, much bigger deal. >> reporter: ratings aren't a concern for hbo's show about death and dragons. it also earned the most nominations of any show this
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year, with 19. but it's facing some tough competition in the best drama category. many experts are saying "breaking bad's" final season makes it the favorite. >> everything is gonna be fine but we need to leave right now. >> reporter: leading man, bryan cranston, nominated for best actor in a drama but could lose out to the man who just won a best actor oscar. >> flattened. >> i think this is the year of matthew mcconaughey, natural if he has a big emmy contender, we are all gonna say he will probably win that, too, like he won the oscar. >> reporter: as the star of hbo's "true detective" mcconaughey would have to beat out not just cranston but a star-studded list, including his "true detective" co-star, woody harrelson and "mad men's" jim hamm, nominated seven times and never won. >> i worry about a lot of things. but i don't worry about you. >> reporter: modern family goes into emmy night on a four-year winning streak in the best
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comedy category. the biggest on stack toll a record-breaking fifth emmy, a newcomer, on netflix. >> looks like "orange is the new black" may be coming up for netflix and could upset modern family. >> jesus and -- >> reporter: if there was a theme this year, it might be how the television academy has recognize sod few shows from the networks that used to be in control. >> remember the good old days of cbs, abc, nbc, even fox? where are they in these emmys? really, they have been just overwhelmed. >> reporter: best chances for a network win in the drama and comedy categories might be in the lead actress in a drama category, where the good wife's julianna margulies is seen as one of the favorites. >> get out of here, alicia. you're fired. >> no. >> reporter: and all of the drama and comedy will play out monday on television's biggest night. nichelle turner, cnn, hollywood.
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you are in the cnn newsroom, i'm jim sciutto in new york, following two major stories today. the last few hours, an american held hostage by islamist rebels in syria has been freed. peter curtis had been held there since 2012. but first, here at home, the strongest earthquake northern california has seen in 25 years. it's aftermath is causing a huge headache for the residents of napa and sonoma county, just north of san francisco much the epicenter of the magnitude 6 quake, the small city of american canyon, california the quake struck seven miles deep and considered strong by the u.s. geological survey. that is, in fact, a very shallow earthquake. downtown napa took the brunt of the impact, buildings reduced to rubble, grocery stores left with plenty on the floor, as you can see there, and entire stretches of roadway split
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