emotional conversation. more on that in the next hour. listen now to their advice for leslie. >> you have to focus on when he was smiling. you have to focus his first day of school. and you have to focus christmas day and things like that. the him aer times and put a picture up when he was happy. and you have to focus on those. just don't focus on the death. that will eat away at you. >> it is 11:00 p.m. on the east coast. 10:00 p.m. here on the streets of ferguson. i'm don lemon. welcome back to cnn tonight. we are live in a community that has been through. so over the last two weeks. tonight in the hours after the funeral of michael brown, it is calm here as a family mourns its loss. and a mother turns to programs the only people who can understand what she is feeling. mothers who have also lost their son.

in a very moving conversation, michael's mother talks to other mothers. one was shot by police in 2006. three mothers united in grief. and meantime, black parents all across the country struggling only the, would understand figure there is anything they can say to their sons to keep them safe. i'm talk with bishop t.d. jakes. again, some breaking news this hour. an alleged audio recording of the moment michael brown was shot. the fbi has questioned a man who says he recorded the audio of gunshots at the time michael brown was shot by ferguson police on august 9th. according to his attorney. cnn cannot independently verify the authenticity of the tape and has reached out to the fbi for confirmation of the interview with the ferguson zenlt who says he made the recording. here it is. listen.

>> you are pretty. you are so fine. just going over some of your videos. how can i forget? >> joining me now, she is the attorney. we're hearing on this tape your client having a video chat with a friend. doing normal, whatever you do. you can hear the gunshots in the background. explain to us what happened. >> that's right. he was in his apartment. he was talking to a friend on a video chat. he heard loud noises and at the moment, at the time he didn't even realize the import of what he was hearing until afterwards. and it just happened to have captured 12 seconds of what trags pird outside of his building. >> let's listen one more time to what happened. >> you are pretty. you are so fine. just going over some of your

videos. how could i forget? >> okay. you have been interviewed by the fbi. he has been interviewed by the fbi. tonight as we were calling your office, you were on the been to the fbi? >> the fbi was in our office interviewing my client. >> what did they talk about? >> they discussed the tape with him and retrieved the information. they're doing a thorough investigation. they thought this would be an important piece of the investigation. >> on the tape, what we have been told that at least six shots were fired at michael brown. in the tape that you have, that is alleged to be of the shooting, again, alleged, we can't independently invite cnn. we didn't shoot i. >> i personally heard 11 shots. >> at least 11 shots. stand by. i want to read this to our viewers. this is breaking news. purported to be audio of the gunshots fired when michael

brown was shot between officer darren wilson and michael brown. the fbi has question ad man who says he recorded audio gunshots at the time of the shooting by police. on august 9th, according to his attorney. she is standing here. the man who asked not to be identified, not to be revealed, lives nearby the sight of the shooting and was close enough to have heard the gunshots. he was speaking to a friend on a video chat service and happen to be recording at the same time. the recording, you can hear a quick series of shots. as you've heard. followed by a pause and then another quick succession of shots. cnn cannot independently verify the tape and as we reached out to the fbi, the ferguson zenlt who made the recording.

>> you are pretty. you are so fine. just going over some of your videos. how could i forget? >> and again, i as you say, i hear 11 shots on there. would the fbi, how long have you been trying to get in touch with authorities over the tape? >> i became aware of this tape through a mutual friend late last week. i had to get his could not sent before i could reach out to the fbi but hearing the tape i thought it should be brought toward. we contacted the fbi and they were quick to respond to our inquiries. >> i want to bring in now chris chestnut. an attorney. chris joins us now. this is indeed the shots, right?

the audio of the michael brown shooting. it is indeed something to be unconversation. i want to you lnl and then we'll talk about it. >> you are pretty. you're so fine. just going over some of your videos. how could i forget? >> it has been said from those doing the autopsy that at least six shots, chris, were fired at michael brown. if this is indeed the audio, it sounds like more than six i'm hearing 11. >> this is surprising. what is most disturbing to me about the shots is the succession. the pause. you hear shots and a pause and more shots. that indicates an intention. we dealt with a similar thing in the farrell case in north

carolina. one, two, three, four, pause. 12 shots. ten of them striking fatally jonathan ferrell. it is the pause. at this point mr. brown is defenseless. he has no weapon. he is more likely than not down. we saw that the trajectory of the bullets, it is down. so these are real concerns about this shooting. >> so chris, how might investigators use -- she is saying that her client has been spoken to by the fbi. interviewed by the fbi just a couple hours ago. >> it can be confirm at the scene. how many bullets were in the clip of the officer? a lot of options for a lot of avenues for law enforcement to pursue. the question is will they pursue

them? the question is was the scene preserved. mr. brounlt was there four hours but i didn't see it. this audio i think will be very probative, very helpful. not only to local authorities but to federal authorities in their investigation. again, that cause is indicative of the mental state of that officer as he was pulling the trigger. >> all right. chris, stand by. stand by. i want to tell our viewers at the top of the hour week waiting a press conference for the man in charge of the investigations here. at any moment he will give us an update. as we go to break, the breaking news is this is purported audio of the michael brown shooting. listen as we go to break and then we'll be back on the other side.

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brown was shot. cnn cannot independently verify the authenticity of the tape and has reached out with the ferguson zenlt who says he made the recording. here it is. >> you are pretty. you're so fine. just going over some of your videos. how could i forget? joining me now, the attorney for the man who record it inadvertently. this is during the time of the altercation with police and michael brown. he is having a video conference conversation with a friend. >> yes. >> and he didn't even realize the import of what he had recorded or what it was until later. and he listened to it but even then, he was not sure what was going on. a mutual friend brought it to my attention. because i work in criminal law and civil rights, when i heard

the tape i realized that it was very important and i wanted to make sure that it was placed in the right hands and gotten before the authorities. like your expert that, i was very concerned about that pause as well. it is not just a number gunshots. it is how they're fired and that has a huge relevance on how this case might finally end up. >> as an attorney you would -- >> i don't know. it was gratuitous that we were able to listen to it. i don't know if a lay person would recognize, they might think, that's interesting to hear the shots. as an attorney you can analyze the information, take stock of what you hear and how important that is. >> okay. here's the audio once again. >> you are pretty. you are so fine. just going over some of your videos. how could i forget? >> so how close was he to the area? >> he was very close.

he was very close to the area. he lives in the apartment complex very close. >> did everything out to check it out? >> not until later. he didn't even know what had happened until he went out later to find out what was going on. and then when he heard, he realized that he may have recorded this and that's when he checked and found out that he had indeed gotten the 12-second clip. that's all that he had but he had recorded the shots. >> this is such a volatile situation. your client doesn't want to be identified. understandable. there is so much media attention and so much unrest in the community. >> he is a very private person and he wants to maintain his anonymity. of course he wants to cooperate with the authorities in any way to make sure this evidence is hand in the way that it should be. however, he just wants to make sure that he is protected and safe because there is been so much chaos in the last couple weeks. >> cnn has new information

purported audio tape of the shooting. we want to get now to the man in charge of the resources here and the response, ron johnson from the missouri highway patrol. let's listen in. >> activists, young adults whose efforts are helping to turn the tide. i also appreciate mr. mike brown senior's call for peace on this day. the changes for us were for the third night in a row there were no, he are strikss of traffic flow, changes taking hold in the business, shops are staying open, there is room for customers to park. most importantly, change is apparent in our schools where the once empty classrooms have been filled with the voices of children who are learn again. it was the first day of school in the ferguson district. this is a very big step forward.

10:00 p.m. only the we deployed no smoke device no, tear gas, no mace, and again only the no, police officer fired a single bullet. nor did we have to respond to a single call. wednesday night, the number of arrests was six, thursday night it was seven. friday it was zero, saturday night, it was six. last night it was zero. and tonight once again, it is zero. we did respond to some medical emergencies due to the heat. scheduled tomorrow on morrison avenue which was postponed today. it is been rescheduled tomorrow at 6:00 p.m. it will start at the greater st. mark's chux on chambers road. there will be some traffic restrictions due to the starting time of 5:00 of the march.

this evening, we attend ad meeting at the church of crisis the king on haulsbury road a few miles from here. among those working to inspire change, there were bernice king, the daughter of dr. martin loorth he king, clergy from around north county spoke about making things better through a commitment to raising up the next generation, young adults, talk about the way of needing to treat people better. by police and by community. but they also talked about meeting them halfway. they are seeing a difference in the past few weeks. it will take time to change but i believe the process has started. i will take any questions. >> do you expect the presto over. >> that is ron johnson, the head of the response here. head of the missouri highway patrol basically saying there were no incidents of violence.

one of the rallies was canceled because of heat and that's good news for the people ferguson. no unrest. everything appears to be peaceful. cnn is reporting, has questioned a man who says he recorded audio of gunshots at the time michael brown was shot by ferguson police on august 9th. cnn cannot independently author authentic indicate the recording but we have reached out to the fbi to speak to them about their interview with the man who alleges to have recorded this. i want to you listen and then we'll talk about it. >> you are pretty. you are so fine. just going over some of your videos. how can i forget? >> the attorney who represents

this man is here in ferguson. also, van jones' attorney and the host of cnn's crossfire and chris as well. i want to get to you first, van. when you hear that succession of shots. a few shots, i think it is about six. then a pause. then you hear three to four more shots. what do you make of that? >> i think it is a very big deal. this begins to confirm, you put all the stories together. people were saying, i was there, i saw it. the initial thoughts. he was trying to surrender and then there were shots that were not necessary. for the first time we now have real-time confirmation that that is at least a plausible story. you hear a big pause between that first volley of shots, a big pause and then another volley of shots. that is very consistent with what witnesses were saying, why they were so upset. if you look at this, you say, look, if this give were trying

to attack the cop and the cop was firing to defend himself, why does it not sound like that? they sound like someone trying to give themselves up and then the extra volley. this is the very first time we have independent confirmation possibly that that version of events may in fact be true. >> again, cnn cannot independently authenticate that. i want it to be clear. the fbi has questioned a man who says he recorded audio of gunshots at the time michael brown was shot by ferguson police. that was on august 9th. that was according to his attorney. the attorney is there. the man who asked that his identity not be revealed, lives near by the site. very closely says the attorney. and was close enough to have heard the gunshots according to his attorney.

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welcome back with our breaking news. an alleged audio recording of the moment michael brown was shot. and cnn cannot independently verify authenticity of the tape and has reached out to the fbi for the confirmation with the ferguson resident who said he made the recording. here is the recording. listen. >> you are pretty. you are so fine. just going over some of your videos. how could i forget? >> so joining me now, attorney lopa blumenthal who is the attorney for the man with the tape and the retired chief deputy u.s. marshal. were you able to hear the shots? >> yes, i was. >> and what do you think? >> i think it sounds like a pause in there.

>> how significant is it if it is a pause in the shooting? >> very significant. that means somebody had time to think and then fire again. >> yeah. do you agree with that? >> i do. >> why so? >> that was what caught my attention initially. exactly as the officer said, it shows a point of contemplation. >> chris? >> i echo their sentiments as well regarding the pause. there are a lot of other details in this audio. if you notice the decibel level of the shots doesn't really change which suggests either the officer was not advancing at all or that he was advancing very slowly which goes to disprove the theory that there are allegations that there was an altercation. moreover to disprove that theory, if michael brown was involved in an altercation, i don't think the officer could get off that many shots. maybe one or two but not that many. thofser will have to justify

this shot. this is a densely populated area. the middle of the day. children are probably outside playing. so mr. brown, there is no evidence that mr. brown was creating a forceable felony or any threat to the public so why was there a threat of 11 shots in the middle of the street in the middle of the day? i have significant issues with this the shoeing. >> i want to bring in lopa. initially i was told by people here that there were many more witnesses, possibly recordings and people were afraid to come forward because they didn't want to deal with police and the spotlight. now one of these cases happening and your client is coming forward. >> yes. basically, the only reason he didn't come forward earlier other than the safety concerns we discussed is because i think unless you're an attorney like your guests, praums don't understand the import of the pause and what was heard.

i brought to it his attention that it is extremely important if. this is put into the right hands and people can hear it and make a determination based on it. >> can there be another explanation for that cause? >> i don't know. it is hard to say. when i listen to the tape, it is hard to say. i can't see any other explanation being -- it was a pause. what was going through the officer's mind? i will say this. once you start firing, you get off a lot of rounds in two to three seconds. normally when you're firing weapon and you feel like your life is in danger, you will automatically squeeze them off. the number of shots, i'm not certain about that. >> i want everyone to listen very closely. to listen very closely. i'm going to plate again. listen to shots, a pause and then a succession of shots again. i want to tell our viewers, this man was on, having a video chat with a friend. something people do every single

day. he is in the middle of a video chat and inadvertently records this. listen. >> you are pretty. you're so fine. just going over some of your videos. how could i forget? >> van jones? this tape will be analyzed over and over and over again. my question is, are there other possible recordings out there? audio or video? this one just surfacing. >> well, there really could be. of course it is an unusual situation, the guy happens to hit record at exactly the right time. to be fair, there could be another explanations for that pause if we want to be fair here. maybe the officer will say i fired and he kept advancing so i fired again. it locks in a certain time frame, a certain number of shots. not just the shots that hit him

but the shots that obviously missed. now you have a tirt narrative framework. this is a huge development. literally we were talking an hour ago about the fact that we don't have any audio or video makes it highly unlikely the police officer will get off. suddenly this appears. this is a huge development. a huge deal. >> if it is indeed the recording. matthew fogg. >> when you hear it, you hear a distinct pause and then firing again. that means the officer had to think about what he's doing at the time. that ties into all the things, what is this guy really a threat at the time? was he advancing? and he is right. if the guy was still considering to be a threat, maybe that's why the officer continued firing. we know there was a pause which

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we're back now live in ferguson, missouri with news. an alleged audio recording of a shooting. the death has forced many young african-american men to reflect on their own lives. how they treat each other and how they're treated by police. here's cnn. >> reporter: for eastbound-year-old eddie walker, this is a painful day. another final goodbye to another friend. >> when i found out, i found out that he died at school. and i was like hurt, crying. i don't want to do this [ bleep ] no more. school, it is just hard. >> reporter: it is a wonlds he can even cry anymore. >> from these past three years, i've lost at least like 15, 20

people. >> reporter: 15, 20 friends and family. >> friends and family. >> reporter: how do you live with that? how do you live with that as a person? >> it is hard. i pray every night. i pray god keep me determined to keep me going. keep me motivated. >> reporter: we met walker and alonzo davis outside the chux where the funeral of their friend michael brown was about to begin. mourners gathered by the thousands. many of them young black men trying to make sense of what they see on the streets. >> do you worry about african-american's fought? young men? >> yeah. especially young people. >> what makes you worry the most? >> they're wasted on doing stuff. gang banging and stuff like that. life is too short. >> his first worry is about what black folks are doing to. they and each other. his second is about the people sworn to serve and protect. as the guy affectionately called big mike was laid to rest, shot

and killed by police officer darren wilson, the spot where brown fell is still covered with reminders of the life he lived. that is where we found a crowd of young black college students sending a silent message to the community. >> it is heart breaking to see. the outcome is our community came out ge to protest for peace and justice. >> reporter: the camera crews, the celebrities, the civil rights here's will head home leaving a xlut to come to grips with the turmoil of the last two weeks. >> this area is kind of rough. you have to worry about the police and other black people, too, trying to get what they can get. >> reporter: 18-year-old russell thanton plays football and is set to graduate this year. if ever these students need a remind every of what happened in ferguson, all they have to do is look across the football field. their view is of the cemetery where former student michael brown is now buried.

cnn, st. louis, missouri. >> we are joined by an activist, writer and public speaker and valerie bell, the mother of shawn bell who was shot and killed by new york city police officers in 2006. thank you so much for joining us. i want to play this audio that is reporting to be the shooting of making brown. >> you are pretty. you are so fine. just going over some of your videos. how could i forget? >> you hear the shots. i know it is hard. you said you wanted to comment on it. why? >> hearing that is proof in the pudding, the evidence they can use against the police officer and whatever else they can use. even though you have this evidence it doesn't help out sometimes. i pray this will help with what they have to go through. >> in your son's incident, you

would have taken any evidence. the evidence is right there. the system is not working for everybody. >> kevin, what do you make of this? >> it is obvious to me that he shot more than once at michael brown. it sounds like he stopped and started again. if that's not clear, how many times do you need to shoot someone if you're trying to detain them? he shouldn't have been shot at all but it sounds like intend to kill from the start. >> we have to say this is purported to be, receive reached out to the fbi. it just surfaced tonight and now he is possibly officially a witness. this will go into evidence. i want to talk to you. i spoke with you yesterday, and

you speak with michael brown's mom. you said a very emotional conversation. when you saw her today, what did you tell her? >> i went over there and gave her a hug and said stand up proud for your son. never forget him. this is only the beginning. i know it is hampld go home, rest, scream, cry, do for yourself first. keep up the good fight for him. >> i know you heard the young man in the story that sarah ran before. you had an event focusing on where the community goes from here. what did you hear from young people? we said listen, we were facing police officers, our own community violence. that is a lot to live up to. i shouldn't say that. that is a big challenge for people here. a huge responsibility. >> a packed house, standing room only tonight. people from ferguson frrgs st. louis, all over the county came out. mostly young people who are incredibly did i havers and over

and over again they talk about standing up for their rights to continue on. they do feel the pressures. people saying please support us. we need your hem. don't just talk about it. our voices matter. i worked with that situation in 2006. and it hurts my heart, eight years later we're still seeing these cases around the country. she was a strong woman. >> i want to you listen to part of conversation yesterday. >> when you go around the house in the kitchen, do you talk to trayvon? >> absolutely. >> do you? >> if i know something has to be done, ma, i got this. >> do you do the same thing? >> especially when it rains. yep. >> when it rains.

why? >> something about the rain. something about it. >> that makes you want to -- >> i feel him. >> he's there. he's there. he's watching over you. >> no matter who you spoke to today, no matter how they feel about this case, who they thought was in the right, who they thought was in the wrong. most people said today it was about a parent losing their child. i have to say with him on your side and having your husband, your children if you have any, your church, keeping strong. knowing the word of god. i have to bring that out. that's what keeps me strong. and i have to keep myself busy.

i pray she would take time for herself and be the voice for her son. there are things we have done to be the voice for our son and that's the only way you can be able to live with yourself. >> yeah. >> trayvon martin's mom said today would be really hard for her, right? and i remember, speaking to my mom when i lost my dad. my mom said, the funeral was tough. but the quiet time afterwards, after everybody left, after the repass, that was hard. she was alone. my dad wasn't there anymore. that will be tough. >> it will be tough. you start questioning yourself. you start questioning god. but there is a purpose and plan in everyone's life. sorry they have to go so young but i pray that she will get the strength to continue on to be the voice for her son. thank you.

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we're back with our breaking news. an alleged audio recording of the moment michael brown was shot. listen. >> you are pretty. you are so fine. just going over some of your videos. how could i forget? >> there are plenty of versions of what happened on the streets of ferguson on august 9th. but does it depend on whether you are black or white? the editor-in-chief, and also, van jones is back with us. so van, first to you. i show you this cbs new york times poll. it shows 57% of blacks think the shooting of michael brown was unjustified. only 18% of whites believe it was unjustified. does that disparity surprise you? >> you know, it doesn't surprise

me. all the facts haven't come in. what you have right now is an ink blot test. if you show a child an ink blot, and one child says it looks like a horsey. another says it looks like a ducky. another says it looks like a madman trying to kill my mother. obviously these children are having very different experiences of life before the ink blot tests. african-americans have such a different experience with law enforcement. we're jumping to conclusions about law enforcement because often law enforcement jumps to conclusions about african-americans and you're seeing that in the date. a as we get more information, these numbers may come back together. this is an ink blot test showing there's something wrong with the way african-americans are rehere because you have such a negative conclusion being drawn with such negative information. >> i want to take another listen to the audio time and then we'll talk. here it is.

>> you are pretty. you're so fine. just going over some of your videos. how could i forget? >> here we have a piece of potential evidence. is it something people may interpret differently? an ink blot test as van says? >> sure. it is interesting. when i first heard the tape a few minutes ago my reaction is the same as van's and as some of the people you've had on the program. the pause is the key if this is what we're talking about. i would caution that the biggest factor here is that we need to shut up and wait for the information to come out. the biggest problem with this case is what the poll shows. not in the second line, do you think that the officer is guilty or not, but the third line, do we have enough information? the fact that 68% of white people say we don't have enough information and 38% of black people say we don't have enough information. if 68% say yeah, it is an ink blot. i don't know if it is an ink

blot. i don't know if it is somebody stabbing my mother or a butterfly. so what we need is, nobody knows what it is until we have enough evidence to show what the ink blot is. >> and i think the numbers are closer, for people saying they need more information. people who say was it an overreach by police. i think the numbers are closer so at least that is a good sign that people are waiting for more information before they rush to judgment here. there is also about six in ten african-americans say they have not much faith that the investigation will be conducted fairly. about the same percentage, 62% of whites said they had a lot of, or some faith that it will. do you think that justice will be served here, ben? >> you know, i do wonder about that. sorry. >> ben, go ahead. >> yeah. i think the question as to whether justice will be served

here very much depends on maybe some of the political motivations that people will play. here's the reality. if you're on that grand jury and you've seen all the violence in ferguson, it is possible that you're worried. i'm not putting this guy behind bars if i say an indictment is a good idea and toss it to the grand jury. the problem is that the pressure is so high, the fury is so great. the coverage is so sbenls that it perverts the cases beyond what the facts may bear. if it turns out the evidence shows the officer in question did what he is accused of having done, he shouldn't be on death row. why don't we wait until the process takes place before we start protesting. >> a lot of people say it is very hard to get a conviction against an officer. >> i'm sure that's true. at least in a court of law we'll have all the evidence out there.

if the jury does the wrong thing, then we can protest against the justice system. we don't even know the officer's narrative. we haven't heard anything from the officer's laushs, we haven't heard from the officer. now we're sitting here speculating on audio that hasn't been confirmed. this is how desperate we are for new pieces of information to try to uncover exactly what it is we're looking at. >> i think the protests were jifd for a couple reasons. when you have an unarmed person who is shot, that's a reason for concern. when the body is left uncovered for four or five hours, that's reason for concern. then when you have a department that can find a videotape from the store, that can't produce a police report. he's begun to wonder about whether this is a fair investigation. that's a good reason to protest. the last thing i want to say, you do have a situation where why are we in front of a grand jury? i think a special prosecutor here would have been a much smarter way to go. the grand jury is a secret

process. we don't know how the information will be put forward. all of these are reasons for real concern. the last thing i'll say, having spent a bunch of time with you, there is a concern in community that is very widespread. this police department has been very aggressive toward african-americans. three warrants per household. this department is only, has three african-american cops out of 53. there is real reason for concern here. i think that the community was right to protest peacefully about the fact that we do have it. >> most people agree that the police department should reflect the community. it is also very difficult sometimes to find officers of color to serve in small communities because they're in such demand. they have really had their choice as to which police department they can go to. mostly they want to go to big aer police department rather than a smaller one. there are lots of issues to be worked out here.

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and before we go tonight i want to play again that audio, the alleged audio recording of the moment michael brown was shot. cnn cannot independently verify the authenticity of the tape and has reached out to the fbi for confirmation of their interview with the ferguson resident who

says he made the recording. here it is. >> you are pretty. you are so fine, just going on. i'm going to ask again. >> and that is for us tonight. i'll see you tomorrow night and natalie allen and errol barnett take over. >> first a broader scope, the u.s. president authorizes surveillance flights of isis militants over syria. >> tears and calls for justice, thousands attending the funeral of the unarmed black teened. more about it. barbara wire and barricades liberia's struggle to contain the ebola outbreak. >> reporter: you can see this center. it's not