directly to the leader of isis begging him to follies mick teaching and not hold her son responsible for what she calls the sins of others. this as we're now learning possibly that a second american has died fighting alongside isis terrorists. our miguel marquez following all the developments this morning from cambridge, massachusetts. good morning, miguel. >> reporter: this is a calculated risk at best, a very, very complicated situation, an all-out war on top of a revolution with several groups competing violently. >> he's an honorable man and has always tried to help the weak. >> reporter: an impassioned plea from the mother of 31-year-old journalist steven sotloff held captive by isis. steven seen here in the same video after this sickening murder of james foley. >> my son steven is in your hands. >> reporter: shirley sotloff desperately appealing directly to the isis leader abu bakr al

baghdadi eight days after the milttant group threatened to kill her son. shirley demonstrates her knowledge of history, culture and morality. >> i've learned a lot about islam? trying to persuade steven's captors to release him, appealing to the same religion isis says justifies its violence. >> i've learned that islam teaches that no individual should be held responsible for the sins of others. >> reporter: she even addresses baghd baghdady but his self-appointed title of caliph. >> you the caliph can grant amnesty. i ask you to spare his life. >> reporter: sotloff looking forward to a homecoming similar to peter theo curtis earlier this week. >> total strangers have come up to me and said hey, we're glad

you're home. welcome home. >> reporter: cambridge in cambridge, massachusetts, with his mother held after two years of captivity by a different jihadist group. >> i say a huge thank you from my heart, from the bottom of my heart. >> reporter: this as we're learning about more americans on the other side of the fight, reports that douglas mcarthur mccain, a minneapolis native killed fighting for isis in syria over the weekend, isn't alone. according to a syrian coalition fighting against isis another american also fighting alongside the group was killed. he has not yet been identified. now it should be noted that mccain was fighting for isis when he was killed, that james foley was killed by or at hand of isis, and mr. curtis who lives right down the street from here, he was release ed by an a nusra front which is a rival which gives you an idea of how complex this is and we can only hope that sotloff's plea ends

well. >> miguel marquez for us in cambridge, thanks so much. the u.s. is looking to countries around the world to join a military campaign to stop the isis surge. the state department says humanitarian and diplomatic help are also needed, but with air strikes on the table big questions about whether other countries will join a coalition with the united states. michelle kosinski is live at white house this morning. how are those overtures to other countries going? do we know? >> reporter: what the white house says it is doing right now is considering possible options, gathering information and in its words enlisting international partners to be a part of whatever this effort is moving forward. we know that that includes not just the expected partners britain and france, but lately the white house has also been emphasizing heavily the importance of regional partnerships, for example, encouraging sunni tribes within iraq to fight isis, but then when you look at situation in syria, of course, that is much

more difficult and much different. even at this point in identifying targets. also that question of who do you work with there, and it's not as if the u.s. is going to be invited in. now the white house also insists that addressing the isis threat is going to have to include both iraq and syria, but they are not spelling out at this point at least that that must include a military response. they say they are also looking at humanitarian needs and continue to work with the moderate syrian opposition, alisyn. >> michelle, thanks so much for that update. we'll check back in to john. >> we have a lot going on this morning. we have this plea for a release from a mother to isis. we also have news of another american killed in the struggle fighting alongside isis so let's talk about this a little bit more. let's bring in patrick skinner, a former cia officer and harris rafiq with quillium, a think tank dedicated to combating extremism. harris, i want to start with

you. we've opinion listening to this hostage video, this plea i should say from the mother of steven sotloff, and it's remarkable from the get go, the language she chooses to use. i want to listen to a part of it right now in how she opens and addresses the leader of isis in and of itself is fascinating. listen. >> i'm sending this message to you abu bakr al baghdadi, the caliph of the islamic state. >> she calls him the caliph of the islamic state, how he wants to be known as right now, really only the people perhaps following him inside that region inside iraq believe that right now. yet she uses that term. why? >> i think when i heard that for the first time that there were two reactions that i had. the first one was as a muslim i actually didn't like the fact that she used the word caliph, but, however, we have to understand that this is a mother

who is using every tool available to her to try and get the release of her son. she's appealed to his self-perceived status. she's appealed to the titles -- used all the titles the titles using for himself, and she's also trying to appeal from an islamic pective and also to try and say, well, you know what, you are claiming you're a muslim. here is what islam believes. please be merciful in the name of islam in the name of my son, and this is something that if he's a muslim he may well consider because that may give him more propaganda and pr amongst other muslims who may be thinking about joining isis or supporting them. >> let's talk about the propaganda and pr there for a second. patrick, you know, is this a victory for al baghdadi right now, having someone whose image is being beamed around the world refer to him as caliph? >> i don't know if it's a victory. they have so much propaganda going on. i'm sure they will try to spin

it, but it was the obvious move that she had to make. i don't think it's a big deal that she called him the caliph because us in the media and the experts, we call them the islamic state when they were neither islamic nor a state so i think it's just a desperate move, and i understand it. i don't know if they are going to capitalize too much on it. >> when you say you don't know if they are going to capitalize too much on it, what do you anticipate the response will be because it does seem in some ways as if it's begging for some kind of public response, leave aside the moment of whether or not it will actually work to have this steven sotloff released, but it does beg perhaps for some kind of public reaction from baghdadi. patrick? >> there's going to be a reaction. i have no idea what it is. he's probably making some calculations whether to be seen as merciful or to go the other way and to be more extreme than the other rival groups. it's a battle for the extremist sympathy. they are not really worried about what we think obviously. they are appealing to that

fringe element that is trying to decide to go with isis or al qaeda or just stay on fence so he's making a clerics and i don't know what that is. >> harris, you referred to some of the language there discussing islamic themes, in some cases more than 1,000 years old. i want to listen to another part of that right now so you can complain exactly what we're hearing. >> since steven's capture i've learned a lot about islam. i've learned that islam teaches that no individual should be held responsible for the sins of others. steven has no control over the actions of the u.s. government. >> wow, that's interesting to hear the mother talk about that, about the heritage of islam there. >> i think she's trying to use, as patrick said, every available tool that she has. she's trying to plead to the fact that, you know, islam actually does refer to the fact that people, individuals, don't

carry the sins of the state, but also i think what's really interesting here is that we have, as you mentioned, in the report earlier on, a hostage that's been released by a rival islamist organization in the region, the nusra front which is actually al qaeda, and here we have two organizations, al qaeda which is in the front and qatar negotiating and acting as the intermediary, and i think there's an interesting dynamic playing out here where they are trying to attract other people to come and join them rather than the nusra front, and she is actually appealing to the islamic self-perceived heritage and the beliefs that he claims he follows, and she's actually right, but it's whether he considers that interpretation to be right toe seas not first to see. >> we'll see if there's any kind of developments. there's word also that another american was killed fighting alongside douglas mccain and fighting for isis in syria right

now. now that makes two dead american members of isis. what do you make of that? >> i think it's quite digs turning, and it's also an inevitable result of three years of civil war in syria. the narrative that isis is putting out, it's also the narrative of al qaeda. it's bin ladenism, and it's been going strong for 15 years, and so after a while the numbers are going to start to add up. there has to be some kind of reaction. we have to counter that narrative. it is very disturbing that these people, some would suggest they knew each other in minneapolis which makes sense that they would kind of form their own cell. it's actually hard to do it by yourself staring at a computer. >> i'm sure intelligence officials right now are pulling on those threads of that sweater tries to trace back anyone else that they might know as well. thanks so much for the discussion this morning. appreciate it. mike cla. >> let's take a look at some of your headlines right now. we've just learned that the death toll from the ebola epidemic has spiked to more than

1,500 with more than 3,000 people sick. almost half of those cases that have emerged in just in the last three weeks. that's a shocking statistic. the director for the centers of disease control says the ebola outbreak is even worse than he originally feared. in an interview with cnn tom freeden says isolating west africa is not the answer. a cdc employee has been flown back to the united states after being exposed to ebola. the agency says he is not sick but that they will monitor him for three weeks and watch for symptoms. breaking overnight, a new clue suggests that malaysia airlines flight 370, it may have turned south earlier than first believed. new information was obtained through data from a satellite phone call. ground crews tried contacting the plane after it fell off radar. officials in australia say further examination may help get a better idea of the plane's path. protests continuing today for michael brown, this time organizers.

they are taking their cause to washington. demonstrators will gather outside the white house this evening and deliver a petition with nearly 1 million signatures urging the department of justice to fully investigate and prosecute all police officers involved in the fatal shooting. meantime, authorities in ferguson, missouri, they have scaled back police presence. a small group of demonstrators took to the streets tuesday and remained peaceful. a pivotal ruling on immigration. a government immigration board now says that domestic abuse claims can factor into immigrants' request for asylum in the united states. this decision stems from the gays of a guatemalan woman who came to the u.s. illegally back in 2005. she successfully argued that her husband's abuse and the lack of police response should make her eligible for asylum. this is now up to an immigration judge to make a final ruling. immigration is getting more complicated, not more simple. >> more intricate. >> hasn't been part of the discussion for the last few weeks in a very public way

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all right. breaking this morning, it's an alarming headline. ukraine says russia is invading its territory right now. officials say that rebel forces backed by russian troops and equipment including heavy artillery are now entering a key town along ukraine's southern coast believed to be rich with minerals and oils. officials in kiev are calling for an emergency session at the united nations to address what the ukrainian calls a russian military invasion. the united states ambassador to ukraine says russia is now directly involved in the fighting. some pretty serious accusations right now. phil black is in moscow for more. good morning, phil.

>> good morning, john. yes, the ukrainian government has talked about russian troops entering ukrainian territory before but not like this, not on this scale. what they are describing is really a very large-sized military operation with russian troops involved directly in the fighting in two key locations. near the city of donetsk, that major city in the region and also the southern port city near there, the southern part city of ma mariopol. as the ukrainian government has driven back russian forces looking poised for an outright military victory, with the chances of russia disrupting that progress, those increases have increased significantly and there's also worry that the russians may be trying to form sort sort of land bridge linking

mainland russian state with the crimean peninsula, the territory russian annexed. so far from russia itself no specific comment on these allegations but whenever confronted with claims of involvement in ukraine the russian government has denied it outright insisting they are just bystanders to this conflict. john? >> it's interesting, phil, to get a no comment to the question are you invading another country right now? nevertheless, thank you so much. phil black in moscow for us. appreciate it. >> for more let's bring in bobby ghosh, the managing editor of "quartz." just heard phil black say this is happening as we speak, a full-fledged invasion they believe happening in two different regions, donetsk and then this port city here where suddenly they say that they are seeing russian soldiers and weaponry. what do we know? >> so what's been happening recently is the ukrainian forces have surrounded quite a lot of

the pro-russian rebels in donetsk and right here. it looks like that's going to fail. it seems to be an attempt of strengthening the rebels in the northern part of donetsk and creating a diversion pulling away some of the ukrainian forces here and creating relief for the rebels and allowing them to create this. you see this as a diversion rather than an important acquisition of a port city. >> the bigger borders around here. >> right here. >> mariopol, it would appear that they are going towards that port. if this is an invasion, then the logical progression is to go all the way here to the crimean peninsula and hook up with other russian sort of forces here. if this is simply a diversion, then basically this is where this incursion will stop, and they will pull some forces away from the ukrainian troops here and allow the rebels to

essentially -- give them some breathing space and give them territories they had lost. >> you say if this is an invasion. the reason that this is an invasion that we're watching happen in realtime right now, they say that there are reports of columns of tanks, armored vehicles, artillery, multiple rocket launchers and russian soldiers having come in. that's new. >> russian soldiers fighting with the rebels for a while but this level of hardware we have not really seen. that suggests something bigger. whether this sort of amounts to a full-fledged invasion depends upon the ambitions of russians. are they trying to take and hold territory or are they simply trying to create some space for pro-russian rebels to operate. >> here's the evidence of russian soldiers, ukraine says that they have captured ten of these russian soldiers just recently so they believe that they have been sent across the border to help the rebels fight. >> yeah, and the rebels are saying, look, there was a new statement from the rebels just this hour saying we haven't been

hiding the fact that there are russian soldiers fighting alongside us and they claim, to give them some plausible deniability. many of these are russian soldiers on vacation, they are coming to help us and believe in our cause and they are all russians is and they are saying some of these guys are retired soldiers and they look like soldiers and they are wearing uniforms but they are actually retired soldiers. they are trying to say that these are not people sent from moscow but people who are coming across the border just to help out of a sense of solidarity. >> bottom line, what do you think putin is up to? >> well, he clearly wants to give the rebels as much space as they can get. he -- so far he hasn't shown any inclination to claim this territory in the way he did with crimea a couple months ago. that could change. there is a lot of strategic stuff going on, a lot of oil pipelines that travel into europe from this region to russia and that's both crucial

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the fbi this morning investigating cyber attacks against u.s. banks allegedly coming from russia. hackers are believed to have targeted sensitive information from financial institutions, including banking giant jpmorgan chase. officials say the timing of these attacks raises suspicions that these could have been politically motivated. christine romans here with more on that. >> what is timing, maybe u.s.-russia relations at a lowest we've seen in a generation? the location of the hackers still isn't clear, but given the sophistication of this cyber security experts say the investigation centers on russia, they are often top fbi suspects and the timing of the attack is suspicion given the sanctions against russia and was this a

financial fraud, politically motivated, was it espionage? banks have very tough security getting and getting that kind of account information is not easy at all. in response to this breech jpmorgan says the bank has measures to protect itself. think about it, jpmorgan and four other banks, these are the very banks that have to actually execute the sanctions against russian entities. for example, if transfer of money has to be denied it would be one of these banks that would have to do it so very clear here. investigators are looking not at a 17-year-old in the caucasus with a laptop trying to hack a bank but a very coordinated attempt to do that. cyber security experts have said also in the past they have worried about russia hacking into some of these systems or trying to get into some of these systems so they can get oil and gas trading desk information. imagine the kind of control and power you could have if you could hack into those systems. >> a lot of people looking at their bank cards, atm, chase,

consumer atm cards thinking is this going to affect me? >> at this point it doesn't look like any accounts have been breached at this point. this looked like it was a big attempt to get in and get information and gig bites of information out, but, of course, that's what they will have to look for in the investigation. christine, thanks so much. >> michaela. >> 29 minutes past the hour. a look at your headline right now. israeli troops are on alert after syrian rebels seized control of the border closing between the two countries. they were helped by al qaeda-linked militants taking control of portions backed by the regime. back here at home, a texas father has been acquitted in the shooting death of a drunk driver who killed his son. david barajas was accused of shooting jose banda in a fit of rage after banda struck and killed his two sons in 2012. attorneys for barajas argued

someone else shot and killed banda after the accident. there were no eyewitnesses to the shooting, no weapon was found. barajas could have faced life in prison if he had been convicted. overnight an unreally passenger forced a paris-bound airplane to land at boston's logan airport. massachusetts state police removed a male passenger from american airlines flight 62 from miami to paris. that passenger is charged with interfering with a flight crew after he allegedly lunged as a flight attendant. no injuries to passengers or crew thankfully aboard that flight. all right. fans of "friends," brace thy selves. jimmy kimmel got part of the gang back together to do a skit that thhe wrote. kimmel played ross and the dialogue was familiar. >> it's like we always say, no one told you life was going to be this way?

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look at this, 8 to 12 feet still and even when you talk about in the atlantic. strong or very heard waves as strong as rip currents, talking about a high risk of rip currents still in the water so keep in mind. i know it's labor day weekend and everybody wants to get in the water and be careful, new york city, first half of the weekend looks good, second half, where it gets ugly. chicago seeing showers throughout the entire weekend, west coast, east coast, even the gulf look at unbelievable surf. >> surfers love it. >> but, unfortunately, it still takes lives. >> see bodies flying through the air. >> experienced surfers. they travel there and they are literally coming over the top. >> an american mother pleads for the sparing of her son's life and a former kidnapped fbi negotiators joins us. >> and a 9-year-old at a shooting range kills her

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a frantic race under way this morning to save an american in the grasp of isis as his mother makes a desperate appeal for his life. american steven sotloff was taken hostage by the terror group isis, and his life is really now hanging in the balance. an isis fighter threatened to execute him after killing james foley, this for what they say is the u.s. air strikes and retaliation for air strikes in iraq. sotloff's mother has made an impassioned plea directly to the leader of isis begging for her son's freedom. former fbi lead international kidnapping negotiator chris voss joins me to break down this statement. it's such a deliberate, calculated statement right from the get-go. i want to ask you some very specific things about this starting, starting with how she addresses the leader of isis. listen. >> i'm sending this message to you abu bakr al baghdadi al

husseini, the caliph of the islamic state. >> right. >> of course, that's how he wants to be known. the rest of the world certainly doesn't acknowledge that. why did she use the title? >> i think this is extremely appropriate. it's very courageous of her to be this respectful of him. that's the title that he want to be addressed by. it's simply a matter of respect on her part to do that, and i think it's a very good idea for her to personalize it using his full name and title and just being this respectful. >> why is it important to personalize it? >> because then she becomes a person and the entire issue of is she an honorable person and federal honor in the family flows from her to her son, then that's appropriate, so she's trying to be a very honorable person and a very respectful person. >> one of the other things that's notable as you watch the entire statement is how much she refers to religion and how she tries i think to prove her knowledge of islam. listen to this part. >> since stephen's capture i've

learned a lot about islam. i've learned that islam teaches that no individual should be held responsible for the sins of others. i've always learned that you, the caliph, can grant amnesty. i ask you to use your authority to spare his life and to follow the example set by the profit muhammad who protected people of the book. >> she personalizes, as you say. she shows respect, and now she's bringing up religion. do this for religious reasons. >> it's important that she's also trying to show that she's respecting the religion. she's not trying to pretend that she's a muslim or that she's converted in any way. she's maintaining her status actually as a non-muslim who is respecting the religion, and, therefore, simply, essentially asking questions about what some of the rules might be or what some of the obligations might be or even what his opportunities and options might be. >> even by your set of rules, each by your faith, even by your

standards you're saying she should release him. >> again, she's saying it from a very important position in that -- out of respect and she's being very courageous, and she's also not trying to pretend like she's a muslim herself which is very important. she can talk about the religion as long as she's not trying to pretend like she's teaching him. she's actually inquiring in some ways in a very respectful fashion. >> all right. one other thing that she does that permeates this message here is reference to family. listen to this part. >> steven is a loyal and generous son, brother and grandson. he is an honorable man and has always tried to help the weak. as a mother i ask for justice to be merciful and not punish my son for matters he has no control over. i want what every mother wants, to live to see her children's children. >> i want what every mother wants. now, the first time i saw this part of me thought she's trying

to tug at the heart strings of a group that by all evidence appears to have no heart. i mean, they are mass kerg people. >> that's the way it looks on the surface. again, she's trying to understand and honor effectively what their rules are in their culture. in this part of the world family is extremely important. family is very important in many parts of the world, of course, and especially in this part of the world and she's trying to show that she understands that and shows those values. >> she knew what she was doing here. do you think she was doing this on her own on instructed by someone like you who is an expert? >> i understand she didn't have any help with this as far as i know. i've actually made some inquiries and what has happened since her son has been taken she's tried to do as much as she can to learn about this part of the world in the event that there is a time that she has the opportunity to communicate on his behalf. >> any risk to doing something like this, any risk that you make the situation worse? >> there's really no downside to do this, and i think she could

only help her family and help her son by doing this. the chances, given the context of the current environment over there, the threat level is very high, and this was a completely appropriate thing to do at this time, and even though it's very long odds, if you will, it's better than no odds. >> you've been in these negotiations before. what kind of reaction do you think is reasonable to respect -- expect? obviously what we all want is for him to be released, but aside from that right now, what kind of reaction do you think might come from isis? >> the issue from isis is do they think they are worthy of this level of respect. for her to go this far out and show them this much respect, if they in fact think they are worthy of it, they should respond. if they don't respond it might be an indication that they don't think they are worthy of this sort of demonstration of respect. >> we see what they do. we'll certainly wish the best for this mother who clearly loves her son very, very much. >> thanks for having me here. >> next on "new day," a gun

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the final moments of charles vacca's life who was teaching a 9-year-old girl how to use an uzi, submachine gun. the gun recoiled causing her to lose control of the gun, accidentally killing vacca in a spray of bullets. the video is sparking so many questions, especially about the age that children should be allowed to handle guns. cnn political commentator ben ferguson and legal analyst mel robins joins us now. good to have you both. just had to talk about this because it's lit up the news and social media. ben, you have experienced -- both of you have experience with guns. i want to talk about instruction, first of all. instructor training specifically. >> yeah. >> look at this video and tell us what you see that is not right. >> a lot of things. first, if you're an instructor, you always stand behind the person. >> no matter their size. >> no matter their size because if they lose control of the gun you don't want to be beside them. i grew up, my dad was in law

enforcement. never stood beside me. it was always a simple issue of i'm behind you. my hands are able to get over that gun and the other issue, it's not so much about an issue about age about the person shooting the gun. i would never hand an use toe my mom or wife or a lot of my friends because of the nervousness of it. you have to be proficient. this is not a toy. it's not something -- it's not a theme park, you know. this is a gun that this young girl should never have been handed based on her ability and they should never have load that had magazine with an entire full clip. i mean, if you're going to shoot this, when i first shot the first one, the guy loaded in three bullets because there's going to be muzzle rides and when you load three you only get to here. when you load the thing all the way up it's going to come up over your head, especially with a young child. never should have happened, never given that to her and if he did have his hands over her. >> if the media reports are accurate, switched it from semiautomatic to fully

automatic, not just pull the trigger one shot, it's a spray. >> exactly. >> why? >> even the military, automatic weapons they will shoot in three-shot bursts in iraq and afghanistan because it's that hard to control a gun like that and you want to be on target. don't want to be shooting fully automatic, shoot a couple, reaim, maybe given her two or three bullets at most and he totally screwed that up. >> ben doesn't necessarily think it's a question of age. i think it is. it makes me crazy that a 9-year-old is capable of firing 600 to 650 bullets in a minute. >> this is a military grade weapon developed by the israeli army that's meant for a soldier, not a fourth grader on vacation. and so the idea that there shouldn't be an age limit on handling a gun like this, even on private property, even at a gun ranges, is absolutely absurd, and to me, you know, i -- i'm somebody who loves to

shoot a .12 gauge shotgun and clay pigeons and we introduced our 9-year-old to target shooting this summer while we were on vacation which makes the story to me even more senseless. >> we're showing the picture of your little one there at the shooting range. >> oh, yeah. >> and my father is behind him. he's shooting a .22 caliber rifle, has the rifle trapped down to a table, he's sitting down and that's how you introduce it. if you're going to introduce kids to guns, you do it responsibly. handing an uzi to anyone under the age of 18 should be illegal because some adults think that it's okay to do it. you're then talking about assessing the person. forget it. they shouldn't be able to shoot it unless you've had certain types of training and unless you're a certain age. >> part of this is going under the age of the -- the instructor is the person in charge of i shot annize, fully automatic weapon before i was 18 years old, in a controlled environment. >> but not when you were 9? >> not when i was 9, but that

goes back to the core issue -- >> shouldn't have been allowed to do it. >> shouldn't be allowed to have this gun -- it's not an issue so much to me of about the age. it is the issue if you see the person, they are nervous, they shouldn't be holding probably any gun at that moment in time. you should start them small. >> but you yourself said she never should have had the gun, other people should never have guns so what do you do about it? do you need rules and regulations? are there some that you would support, or you can't get on a roller coaster unless you're this tall? >> i'll put it this way. young kids, would you give them an avt, probably not, a little kiddie one, yes. there should have been a course. should have had to take a class at this range to be able to shoot this gun. >> of course. >> with her family. you just don't hand a gun to anybody -- a powerful gun. i shot a .22. i with ento the range recently with my wife. i didn't hand her my gun because she hates it. it's too big.

doesn't feel comfortable to her. she's a grown adult and can handle it but i don't want to give her something that she doesn't know or want to shoot. these are powerful powerful weapons. >> it's important to teach children about gun safety. they do need to note rules and you're doing it response police with your son. do you think that's commonplace for uzis to be available at gun ranges, or was this a complete outlier in las vegas? >> i think it's actually common. i mean, people are making money doing this, and there's fascination with firing these kinds of weapons. the problem with what ben was saying, respectfully, ben, yeah, there should have been but there's no laws that require gun ranges to have these types of safety measures in place, and just in massachusetts, just four years ago, there was an 8-year-old at a gun show that fired annize under the supervision of his father and it recoiled and he shot and killed himself, so this is not an outlier. this is going on in america all over the place.

>> and i think one of the most important things about all of this is i hope people tell this little girl and all of america tells her this was not her fault. >> this was a terrible, terrible accident. >> this was not her fault. she should absolutely never had this in her hands and people should let her know this because she's going to need counseling and i hope she gets it and let her know you're not a murderer or killer and she needs as much counseling as she needs on this because it will stick with her for the rest of her life. that's the tragedy of this. >> to end that, and i hope that this is the takeaway for a child. this is 59-year-old who it'sbly her life could be changed forever for this and we don't want that to happen. talk about what needs to happen, mel in, terms of regulation because we talked about this before. when we see these things happen, is it about instructor training or limitations on the gun ranges? is it more about gun control? what is it to you? >> well, to me personally, and this will never happen because of the nra, i personally think that nobody should be allowed to

fire a weapon like this until they are 18 years old and that the gun industry in terms of shooting ranges should have standard regulations that they need to be following that are what ben is talking about, somebody going up the scale of firing a .22 and then firing a .20 and firing a .12 gauge and moving up the range so you develop a comfort level in a controlled environment. >> and a respect, too, right? >> correct, correct, and you understand how to use the selector and understand the stance and the muzzle ride. >> and you don't put 20 or 30 rounds in a fully automatic weapon when you're handing it to a 1-year-old child. there should have been maybe two or three bullets at a time. should have reloaded because that's not going to get away from you without someone being able to stop it. this instructor should have been behind her, not beside her. so many things fell through the cracks. >> when common sense does not prevail, as you saw in this case, do you agree that there could be regulations involving

age and weapons? >> i would be okay with some sort of guaranteed time of learning before you shoot it, but i think the big concern is if we focus so much on age we're not focusing enough on the reality is the majority of americans can't buy these guns. you go to a range to shoot them. i shot one before i was 18 years old. it was absolutely no problem so it was an amazing moment with my dad. i think it was actually my birthday, if i remember correctly, and we're going to go shoot something that we don't own, that we don't have. >> there will be people will say there's no harm in waiting until you're 18 and there's probably a 9-year-old that can operates the dad's tractor on the farm but should 9-year-olds being driving tractors, no. there's no harm in waiting. >> there's no harm in waiting and this doesn't happen if this wasn't a bad instructor. it cost him his life.

>> a crying shame. family mourning the loss of a loved one right now. >> i hope -- i hope everyone watching rallies behind her because i don't ever want her to think that was her fault. this was not her fault. my heart goes out to her because i cannot imagine the guilt through her life and i hope that people let her know so what she goes back later in life, that people see -- that people are like this is not your fault. this was not your fault because i can't imagine being that young and thinking that you killed somebody. >> of course. and i pray her little 9-year-old friends are just as sympathetic. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> mel, ben, thank you so much. we know this is going to generate a lot of discussion. it certainly has here. go on to facebook and let us know what you think. facebook.com/newday. keep the conversation going. we'll get some opinions from you. >> one thing we're following, a whole lot of things going on. let's get right to t. the white house continues to weigh options on the isis threat. >> we've now done over 100 air strikes. the air strikes have been

extremely, extremely effect sglif what we can't afford to do is get into a full-fledged war in syria and iraq. it would be a disaster. >> separatists are being backed by fighters who have crossed the border from russia. we're also concerned by the russian government's unwillingness to tell the truth. the mother of 31-year-old journalist steven sotloff desperately appealing directly to the isis leader. >> i ask you to please release my child. >> sotloff's fate depends on what president barack obama does next in iraq. good morning, everyone. welcome to nude yale. i'm alisyn camerota alongside john berman. great to be with you. chris and kate are off today. we begin with the desperate race to save the life of american hostage steven sotloff, last seen in the grisly isis video of james foley's beheading. sotloff's mother shirley delivering a video message directly to the leader of isis begging him to follies mick teaching and not hold her son responsible for the sins of

others. this as we're now learning possibly a second american has died fighting alongside isis terrorists. cnn's miguel marquez has more. >> he's an honorable man and has always tried to help the weak. >> reporter: an impassioned plea by the mother of 31-year-old journalist steven sotloff held captive by isis. steven seen here in the same video after the sickening murder of james foley. >> my son steven is in your hands. >> reporter: shirley sotloff desperately appealing directly to the isis leader abu bakr al baghdadi, eight days after the militant group threatened to execute her son. in the nearly two-minute statement shirley demonstrates her knowledge of islamic history, culture and morality. >> i've learned a lot about islam. >> reporter: trying to persuade steven's captors to release him, appealing to the same religion isis says justifies its violence. >> i've learned that islam

teaches that no individual should be held responsible for the sins of others. >> reporter: even addresses baghdadi by his self-appointed title of caliph, a possible trat jim move appealing to his stated authority you. >> the caliph can grant amnesty. i ask you to use your authority to spare his life. >> reporter: sotloff hoping for a homecoming similar to theo peter curtis, the american hostage released this week. >> total strangers have been coming up to me saying, hey, we're just glad you're home. welcome home. >> reporter: curtis now at home with his mother in cambridge, massachusetts, after spending nearly two years in captivity held by a different jihadist group in syria. >> i say a huge thank you from my heart, from the bottom of my heart. >> reporter: this as we're learning about more americans on the other side of the fight. reports that douglas mcarthur mccain, a minneapolis native killed and fighting for isis

over the weekend isn't alone. according to a syrian coalition fight against isis, another american also fighting alongside the group was killed. he has not yet been identified. >> our thanks to miguel for that report. as this isis threat spreads, so, too, does the urgency to battle these terrorists. the u.s. looking to form a coalition to possibly join this fight entering with military action. u.s. officials say there are some countries lined up as candidates and many of these countries with capable militaries have concerns of memories of the 2003 iraq invasion fresh in their mind. more to michelle kosinski with more on this. good morning, michelle. >> >> reporter: seems like we've gotten to the point that we're hearing the same kinds of things for the last two weeks but equally evident are the deep complexities involved in making a decision like this. what the white house is saying it's doing right now is

considering the options available, gathering information and in its words enlisting international partners to be a part of whatever this effort will be exactly moving forward. yes, that includes the expected partnerships, britain and france, and, of course, we know the uk has already been involved in trying to find the killers of american journalist james foley, but the uk says they have not been asked at this point to conduct air strikes by the u.s. just today the french president was talking about the region and the concerns that terrorism will spread, but what the house has been emphasizing lately is the importance of regional partnerships in this. for example, to encourage sunni tribes to band together and fight isis. john. >> michelle, thanks so much. cooperation in iraq, the question is will that cooperation translate to syria as well. michelle kosinski at the white house, thanks. >> for more on building that coalition let's bring in former ambassador to iraq james jeffrey. mr. ambassador, thanks for joining us.

>> thank you for having me, alisyn. >> before we get to the coalition, i want to share some breaking news that we just learned. isis has set fire to oil wells near mosul as peshmerga fires were moving closer, and now the fighting is closing in around those strategic oil fields. what do you think the u.s. should do about that? >> those are the zuma fields, ailsin', and i know the area. u.s. forces are actually providing air support for the kurds as they move forward. this is part of the campaign that the president announced, and it's a good thing that we're on the offensive against these guys up in the north. >> okay. very good. let's talk about the coalition. which countries do you think would be willing to get on board with the u.s. in terms of air strikes in iraq or syria? >> it is very hard to say who will get on board with us on air strikes, but the point is we only need other countries to bomb with us for political reasons. we have enough military capability ourselves. what we need is, as you mentioned earlier on your show,

the political support by the sunni arab states to peel off these arab tribes, these sunni tribes in iraq and also in syria. we need people who can work with us on the syrian resistance, and that's going to be a long haul, but it's something that we can do because everyone is afraid of isis at this point. >> what about syria itself? do you think there will come a time where we are forced to collaborate with them because they want isis gone? we want isis gone. >> absolutely not. the syrian government is another terror organization. it doesn't threaten us directly, but it threatens the people of the region, the very people that we want to form a coalition with. it's very, very important that we not get in bed with the syrian government because for countries like saudi arabia and turkey, it is the enemy as much as isis. that's why this is so complicated and why we have to start as we're doing in iraq before we bite off bigger challenge in syria. >> you would think that every

country in the world would be willing to partner with us to fight isis. no one wants isis to gain a toe hold anywhere, but do you think that president obama is encountering reluctance? >> he's not encountering reluctance such as we saw in 2003 when many countries simply thought it was wrong to invade iraq. everybody is rooting us on and cheering american air strikes. whether they are willing to do this themselves, given their own constitution and legal restraints, and whether they want in the case of the countries in the region to directly antagonize isis, that's another question. this is something we've faced ever since the korean war in 1950. when we take the lead, countries do follow, but they don't follow to the degree that we would like because they know we'll do the job with or without them. >> centcom tells us that the u.s. has conducted more than 100 air strikes across iraq in the past few weeks. do we know if it's made any dent in isis? >> it has made -- in terms of'

creating isis forces, 100 air strikes will not do more. these are mainly on one or two vehicles per strike, but what it is doing is when you combine air firepower with ground maneuver, and in this case with the kurdish forces and some iraqi special forces, you get strategic results, such as retaking the mosul dam and moving on these oil fields in zuma. that's the importance of these air strikes, not how many humvees or trucks have been hit and how many isis soldiers have been killed. they have plenty of those. what they don't have is terrain that is strategic that we can take away. that's what we're trying to do. >> as you know, the president justifies the air strikes to begin with to protect the yezidis who were trapped on that mountain top and they were being slaughtered by isis. now that they have been rescued other ethnic minorities are also being persecuted by isis. how long do we keep doing this? >> that's a good question because this is just a justification that covers the deeper reality alisyn, we're in

a war with isis. they certainly think, as we saw with the foley video, that they are in a war with us. they are in a war with the entire civilized world and it's time and the administration is taking the first steps to put together a coalition as best we can and get down to the work of driving these guys back. >> mr. ambassador, are they a regional threat or a threat to the u.s. homeland? >> they are a threat both to the homeland and to the region, but the threat to the region is so great and so compelling and right in the center of region, this is an afghanistan off to the side that it threatens our core interests directly in the region, our allies from turkey to israel and, again, finally, the homeland. >> ambassador james jeffrey, thanks so much for all the great information. nice to see you. >> thank you. >> over to michaela for headlines. seven minutes past the hour. the fbi is investigating coordinated cyber attacks on jpmorgan chase and other major banks, possibly from russia.

experts say this hack was sophisticated. hackers were able to break through bank and security and steal information from accounts. a u.s. official told cnn the extent of the damage and the source really is not clear, but the timing certainly raises suspicions given u.s. sanctions against russia. we'll keep following that story for you. more than 1,500 people have now died in west africa's ebola outbreak that's sickened more than 3,000 people, many of them just in the past three weeks despite hopes that the virus was slowing. the director of the centers for disease control, tom freeden, is sounding the alarm and telling cnn that the situation is far worse than he had feared. >> the world cannot isolate liberia and west africa. that won't help, and it will make it harder to stop the outbreak, and ultimately it will increase the risk in other places because every day this outbreak goes on, it increases the risk for another export to another country. so the sooner the world comes together and helps liberia,

liberians and west africans to stop it, the safer we'll all be. >> a cdc employee was flown back to the united states after being exposed to ebola. the agency says he is not sick, but they will monitor him for three weeks and watch for symptoms. in indiana, a violent explosion at a bp refinery. according to local stations, folks as far away as two miles could feel the blast. a fire department official says bh's inhouse fire department was able to douse the fire which was reportedly ignited when a compressor exploded. one worker was taken to hospital as a precaution but was later released. according to "the "chicago sun-times,"" interesting coincidence, maybe. wednesday also happened to be an explosion at that refinely in 1955 that killed two people so kind of crazy that it would happen on the same day. >> scary. >> incredible how much water they were dumping into there. >> and didn't seem to make a

dent. >> we'll delph into this new video dealing with a mother pleading for her son and crisis in ukraine. the president of ukraine saying this is an invasion. russian troops have invaded his country. we're going to have a live report from moscow with some analysis into what exactly this incursion means. and as were you saying, john, that mother desperate to free her son from isis. could a video message from steven sotloff's mother be the key to getting him out alive? we'll talk to christiane amanpour. losing your chex mix too easily? deploy the boring potato chip decoy bag. with a variety of tastes and textures, only chex mix has twenty bags of interesting. pick your mix. remind me to tell her happy anniversary. [ cortana ] next time you talk to caroline, i'll remind you. [ siri ] oh no, i cannot do that. oh, and remind me to get roses when i'm near any flower shop. sure thing. remind you when you get to flower shop. i can't do that either. cortana, it's gonna be a great night.

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all right. breaking news this morning, and it is an alarming headlines. the tensions are escalating in ukraine after an apparent surge in fighting with separatists being aided by russian soldiers. ukraine's president says this is an invasion. the russian military is invading. the prime minister of ukraine now calling for an immediate u.n. security council leading to address what is an increased presence at a minimum by the russian military now being confirmed by the rebel groups fighting alongside them. the latest fighting centered around a key coastal town located right on the sea. it's believed to be rich in that area with gas and minials. phil black live in moscow with more. phil, we've heard rumblings from ukraine in a long time and there's a lot of missed information and this time this seems different this morning. >> you know, this is much bigger, john, than the incursions ukraine has accused russia of before. it's much greater in scale as they describe it. they talk about the russian

military now being directly involved in fighting ukrainian government forces in two key locations, near the large key city of donetsk and also by the coast on the sea. that's a key location and that's one where there's not new fighting and it's opening a new front in this conflict. if true this, could be the move that western governments have been warning about for some time, a move to directly intervene to change the momentum on the ground because of recent ukrainian government gains in the fighting. they looked poised for an almost an outright military victory. at times they have been concerned that as that increases the greater the chance that russia could then potentially intervene. we've heard from a rebel leader interviewed by russian state media today acknowledging, that yes, there are russian soldiers on the ground fighting in eastern ukraine, but he says they are all either veterans or on vacation, spending their holiday time in the east of the country.

it could explain why there are thousands of russians there. it would no explain why there's a large-scale presence of russian military hardware in the region. >> sort of an invasion holiday. >> phil black in moscow for us. thank you so much. all right. this does feel different as phil was saying. the u.s. is reacting this morning. want to go straight to the pentagon and our barbara starr is there. good morning, barbara. >> reporter: good morning, john. the pentagon waking up this morning to a very different situation. a u.s. official telling me a short time ago that intelligence now indicates there are indeed about 1,000 -- up to 1,000 russian troops in this area of southern ukraine that phil just described. they are about 12 miles inside the border, fighting with russian weapons, so this is not middle men, these are not people on vacation or not separatists, regular russian troops fighting with russian weapons that have also moved in. a short time ago the u.s. ambassador to ukraine tweeted this, and i want to read it to you. it sums up where we stand.

the ambassador saying, the u.s. ambassador saying, quote, russian supplied tanks, armored vehicles, artillery and multiple rocket launchers have been insufficient to defeat ukraine's armed forces so now an increasing number of russian troops are intervenk directly in the fighting on ukrainian territory. we also know that u.s. intelligence indicates that the russians have moved in a number of long range anti-aircraft vehicles and president obama is scheduled to travel to the nato summit in wales and the situation with russia was topic number one on the nato summit and now it remains to seven what steps washington and the other capitals will take next. >> russian troops with russian weapons, direct involvement in fighting in ukraine, alarming. barbara starr at pentagon,

thanks. als yib. >> let's bring in nicholas burns, former ambassador to nato and professor at harvard school of government. thanks for being here. as we speak, they are seeking a bona fide invasion from russia. what do you think is happening at this hour? >> it's an ominous turning point and the "new york times" is calling it a stealth invasion because putin and the russian government continue to deny that they have fighters inside ukraine, that they have advanced air missile defense systems and that they have artillery, but all the evidence points to the fact that the russians have been there for weeks. they have been firing at ukrainian positions and, of course, what the russians are concerned about is that the ukrainian military forces have made tremendous progress in fighting against the russian separatists over the last month or so. they are trying to reverse that trend. they want to keep ukraine -- eastern ukraine, that is, in a state of instability so that they can have a measure of control. it's a very, very negative turning point

>> you say that russia is denying that they are sending fighters, though ukraine says that they have captured ten russian forces. russia says that these are people on vacation, that they are basically freelancing there, that they weren't sent by russia. what do you make of that? >> it's just not believable, but it is out of the playbook of president putin, a former kgb officer and he's used to covert operations, saying one thing and doing another. a remarkable briefing at state department yesterday when the state department spokesperson effectively accused the russian government of lying about what it's doing. that doesn't happen very often in international politics. it's happening now because it's plain for everyone to see that the russian government is using its forces inside ukraine to try to counter the recent offensive by the -- by kiev, by the ukrainian government. i think this does raise as barbara starr your report said at the pentagon some stakes for the united states.

president obama will be at the nato summit in wales next week. this may be reason now for greater u.s. and european sanctions against the russian government to drive up the costs economically to president putin for what he's doing. >> let's talk about that. what can the u.s. government do? sanctions have been under way in some form or another so what toss it look like to raise the stakes? >> the u.s. can do two things. the first is to push the european governments, especially germany towards new economic sanctions. the russian economy is integrated with that have europe and the rest of the world. it can't afford more powerful sanctions. that's really the best weapon that the u.s. and europe have. the other thing that the united states can do is now to consider arming the ukrainian government and delivering more sophisticated weapons to the ukrainians so that they can fight back. what's at stake sheer that ukraine is just trying to protect its own sovereign territory, and we have now a major country in europe, russia, effectively coming over the

border, an outright violation of international law. it's not possible if the united states can just stand aside and do nothing, and it's not, and i think there has to be serious consideration given to arming the ukrainian military forces. >> about that second option, has the u.s. been helping kiev, and to what level? >> to a very limited extent. most of the western assistance to the ukraine has been economic, and that's badly needed because the ukrainian economy is on the ropes, but they also need sophisticated weapons to fight back. i think president obama has handled this in an effective way. there's no question that the united states is not going to enter this fray militarily, we shouldn't. we don't have a legal or political or moral reason to do so, but we do have an interesting in helping a major state in europe, ukraine, defend itself from outright aggression, and i think there will be more talk about that in advance of the summit meeting at nato next week. >> boy, this nato summit is happening at an intense time.

i mean, between the middle east, between what's happening in ukraine, it feels a little bit like the world is blowing up. >> well, i think there are a couple of major issues for next week at nato summit when president obama is there. the first is russia, what can we do to deter any further russian incursions into ukraine and the second, of course, is isis and the need for some of the european countries and nato alice to help the united states to beat back the isis forces through the air strikes and i think, third, they will have to think about the african mission because as you know nato forces are scheduled to lead by the end of 2016. does that make sense now that we've seen iraq destablize with the departure of the american troops and shouldn't we leave at least some troops in afghanistan to protect the afghan government there, so it's going to be a very consequential summit meeting next week for president obama and the other nato leaders. >> that's a lot to tackle. absnicholas burns, thanks so much for previewing it with us. >> thank you. >> great to talk with you. >> next, a mother's desperate video message to isis begging

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steven is a loyal and generous son, brother and grandson. he's an honorable man and has always tried to help the weak. as a mother i ask your justice to be merciful and not punish my son for matters he has no control over. i want what every mother wants,

to live to see her children's children. >> that's shirley sotloff, an emotional plea to isis there, the mother asking the militants to release her son who is right now being held hostage. steven sotloff's life threatened directly in the video where american james foley was executed. the islamic extremists say that sotloff's fate depends on what president obama does next. i want to bring in christiane amanpour and also a mom. hearing that plea from the mother there is just remarkable. >> well, it's tragic. it's really tragic because she knows very well that it's happened to another son, the son of the foley family. she's seen her own son in that video, and she's desperate. obviously these families have been trying behind the scenes with many government agencies to try to get their children released, those who are in fact held by isis and a number of

other extremist groups, and this is a last-ditch attempt presumably. it is, in fact, according to hostage negotiators and those who work in attempting to get these captors release quite rare for a parent to make this direct, overt video plea to the terrorists, but it is a last-ditch attempt, and she's going to do everything she possibly can to try to get her child set free. >> it's understandable. would i do everything i possibly could, too, and she appeals to this man, abu bakr al baghdadi, the head of isis. she gives him respect. she refers to him as caliph and she also brings up religion. i want to listen to one more part of this. >> since stich's capture i've learned a lot about islam. i've learned that islam teaches no individual should be held responsible for the sins of others. steven has no control over the actions of the u.s. government. >> how do you think this will

play, christensianchristiane, n inside the region but also in islam? >> most people are against that fanatic extremism, but whether or not it makes an impact on actually the people that are the fanatics is another matter. she's clearly done her homework. clearly understands and knows how to talk and how to try to appeal to them. what she's trying to do, again, according to what we hear and according to these experts is sort of obviously not aggravate the situation but try in a way to shame them into ceasing and desisting from a barbaric act. that's what she's trying to do. >> this is just one piece of this incredibly complicated chessboard going on right now. you have a war inside iraq. you have a war inside syria. you have a hostage crisis right

now and a white house deciding what to do, not just in iraq and syria. this morning based on your conversations with people in the administration here and also on the ground in syria, where do things stand? >> well, mostly based on my conversations with the players on the ground in syria, i have been told by the new leader of the syrian moderate opposition forces, the free syrian army, fsa, that in may, this spring, this past spring, they went to washington. they spoke to president obama and members of his cabinet. they spoke to congress. they tell me that they warned explicitly of the rise of isis, of the threat of isis and they asked explicitly for help. they said they were not given a particular understanding -- they were not given what they hoped they would be given and that is the equipment to fight, and they felt also they weren't taken seriously. i understand also, and there are reports, that other delegations of the moderate opposition have

been talking to other members of the u.s. administration, including the u.n. ambassador samantha power. again, nothing came of it until isis took territory in iraq and has now carved out this massive terrorist state, and, of course, they committed this barbaric act of publicly executing and beheading james foley, so now the administration and its western allies and allies in the region are facing a conundrum, facing not just a group of insurgents. analysis says and experts say that these isis people are not just a bunch of fanatic insurgents. they are kind of like an army right now in syria and iraq, and they are having their ranks swell and the expertise of former iraqi army officials under saddam hussein, and experts say they are conducting themselves as well as this fanaticism that we're seeing but on the ground like an army, with

a structure, and that is very, very difficult to counter, and it's going to take a very coordinated counter strategy by the united states and its allies. >> they have a military structure, a financial structure, a pseudo governmental structure. that's what the world is facing right now. christiane amanpour, thanks so very much. watch "amanpour" on saturdays at 2:00 and 5:00 p.m. eastern. >> what do authorities really know about douglas mccain's association to isis? we'll tell you about the latest findings to mccain's past and this is an unbelievable story. a football star's bizarre web of lies exposed. days ago he said he was a hero. now he says his heroic tale was all made up. we'll have the details. get a $1,000 turbocharged reward card with a new volkswagen turbo. why are we so obsessed with turbo? because we like giving you power, but we also like giving you fuel efficiency.

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new information this morning on douglas mccain, the american citizen turned isis fighter. we're learning when he first caught the attention of u.s. intelligence and the path he took to extremist jihad. dan simon tells us about

mccain's past. >> american jihadi fighter douglas mcarthur mccain first crossed investigator radar in the early 2000, what attracted his attention is his association with people with radical beliefs, one a high school classmate who died in somalia who died alongside al shabaab militants and the fbi in minnesota, mccain's home state, say jihadi recruiters take advantage of their subject troubled youths. >> the recruit remembers very aware that they have a pool of potential travelers here in minneapolis. >> reporter: still, no indication then that mccain, who studied arabic at san diego city college, was involved in anything nefarious. according to law enforcement, he seemed to radicalize gradually in the years since converting from christianity to islam. >> he grew to have like really

strong muslim beliefs. i know his religion was very important to him, but those people -- the isis people, they don't -- they don't represent what my cousin's beliefs are. >> reporter: despite being on a terror watch list u.s. authorities did not discover mccain was headed to the middle east until after he arrived, and exactly how he become radicalized bewilders those who knew the 33-year-old. he previously worked in a program that helped people with disabilities. justin was one of mccain's clients at the program where two years mccain help him with day-to-day activities and spent time with him. >> he was just a genuine fun guy, you know. we would do like fun things together, hang out. >> reporter: he says they became close but lost touch after mccain told him that he was going back to minnesota. eventually he was unable to reach him. >> just a scary picture to

imagine, you know. i miss him a lot, and it's kind of sad right now. >> reporter: now he and others are deeply puzzled about what would cause a one-time care provider to fight for a terrorist group. dan simon, cnn, san diego. >> our thanks to dan for that. a lot of questions still remaining about doug mccain. all right. let's give you a look at the headlines at 739 in the east. the israeli military has closed the area around its border crossing with syria after being seized by syria rebels backed by al qaeda linked fighters. it had within under control under the assad regime. this raises concerns about the conflict widening in the region. the united nations security council has passed a resolution concerning the intense fighting in libya and is demanding an immediate cease-fire. the security council's resolution includes sanctions against those involved in the violence between rival militias. libya's ambassador to the u.n. called the resolution a

milestone but has also warned of a full-blown civil war. a search-and-rescue mission is under way for the pilot of a fighter jet that crashed yesterday in virginia. the air force national guard f-15 went down in a rugged area of the george washington national forest on wednesday morning. the plane was headed for massachusetts to louisiana when the pilot reportedsome sort of in-flight emergency. they are still looking for that pilot now. the sister of boston marathon bombing has been arrested for an alleged bomb threat against a woman in new york city. ailina tsarnaev is charged with aggravated harassment. police say she phoned in a threat to a woman who is said to be her boyfriend's ex-girlfriend saying, quote, i know people who can put a bomb on you. this young woman is due back in court on the 30th of september. that family continues to fascinate me, i must say.

three homicidal violent children. what's going on in that house? >> i do not know. that's an interesting twist. >> let's get over to meteorologist indra petersons. she has some amazing video out of california where the surf is up, indra. >> people keep talking about california, yeah, they get surf. not like this. talking about a category 5, marie out in the water. look at the surfs, 25 feet high with the surfers propelling and diving off of the top of this. this is known as the wedge right out towards newport beach if you're familiar with that area. this is unbelievable. even some of the most experiences surfers around the world were struggling with this strong waves out there. keep in mind it's also damaging, not all fun and games. look at pier out towards catalina island and boats overturned as well as vehicles. that is the concern as we go towards the holiday weekend. we still have marie and cristobal out there so both coasts do have the threat for the strong win currents as well as that high surf and now even a

tropical disturbance is developing here right in the golf to around corpus christi. still looking for that threat of danger in the water. talking about high surf. there's cristobal. still the surface high is 12 feet in the atlantic. that is the concern as many of you are heading out for this holiday weekend. the rip current, of course, is going to be high as well out there so be watching that. just keep in mind labor day weekend, in the northeast, it's going to look better the first half of the weekend and the second half of the weekend starts to get some showers. midwest, not too good. maybe sunday will be okay and, of course, california is always looking pretty good. the pacific northwest also seeing showers out there. i literally cannot get enough of this video. truly incredible but keep in mind the danger. >> california always looking good except for giant waves. >> depends on who you talk to. >> look safe from away back on shore. >> thanks, indra. it was a huge lie. it turns out usc football star josh shaw is no hero. he now admits he did not injure himself jumping from a second floor balcony to save his

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shall we talk about a controversy that's brewing surrounding a top college football player? usc cornerback josh shaw captured national attention with quiz an amazing and heroic tale of how he rescued his 7-year-old nephew from drowning in a pool. he claimed that he sprained both of his ankles leaping from a second story balcony to the concrete below in order to rescue him, but now, now shaw admits the entire story was completely fabricated saying, quote, on saturday, august 23rd,

2014, i injured myself in a fall. i made up a story about this fall that was untrue. i was wrong to not tell the true. i apologize to usc for this action on my part. well, usc has suspended shaw. it's still not clear why he lied. let us discuss. we'll bring in "time" senior writer shaun gregory and cnn sports andy scholes. good morning, gentlemen. shaun, got to start with you. how big of a deal is this for this young athlete and for trojan football? >> he's the captain, a key defensive player, and for his career, i mean, he's a talented guy and now you bring some questions, can you trust this player? you see this all the time, character issues. this is a pretty bad thing to lie outright and to make up this tall tale that everybody kind of jumped on is not good. >> andy, what sounds like it might have been a little white lie to cover up something that we're not sure of why we would have needed to lie in the first place, follow the bouncing ball, it's now a big deal because usc

blew it up and said, hey, look, look what our guy did. >> athletes have been known to 4r50i about injuries suffered off the field. i remember moises alou said he tore the acl on a treadmill when rumors were he fell off a motorcycle. nobody investigated him and went offer moises alou and he said i did it to myself running on a treadmill and shaw in this case made up a heroic tale of how he severely sprained both of his ankles and everybody would want to talk about this and learn more about the heroic tale and that's where shaw found in a be prompt thought he was telling this to the usc sports information department but, of course, they made a big deal of it, as they should if the store woe have been true, and that's where this thing really spiraled out of control for him and he ended up having to fess up to the whole deal. >> sean, here's a clue i believe of why he fell off that balcony. a neighbor reported seeing a man run across or scale a balcony.

later, as officers interviewed a female resident of the complex, she responded that sounds like my boyfriend josh shaw. it seems as though he was doing something at his girlfriend's apartment on -- scaling a balcony maybe to peak in, spy at her, something, and he fell off and said he was trying to rescue his 7-year-old nephew from drowning. >> yeah, that's plausible, if that's the case, why not tell the truth. i fell. >> i fell. >> his lawyer said there was no alcohol involved but you think that could have happened, but, you know, now we have a case, you know, where usc was so quick to pump up the story. now let's be transparent and let's find out what happened. >> i would say this is a big lie, epically stupid lie. can usc let this kid play before the end of the season? i don't know how bad the injuries were from not rescuing his nephew in the pool, and

assuming he is better can they let him back on field? >> if it was a relatively innocuous thing and it was an accident they will bring him back after a few weeks and what is also interesting, it's the usc -- the website had the story, and so when something is on a team the a.d. said they vetted it 12 times with a bunch of different people so what was going on was the whole family in on the lie? there are so many questions. >> tell me about this guy josh shaw, a senior for the team. was this guy getting some attention to the nfl? what kind of future does he have and does this now you talk about, sean mentioned it puts into question character. you this i this is going to really be a mark on his record? >> well, yes, but at the same time the nfl doesn't really have a spotless track record when it comes to keeping, you know -- having marks on your record really doesn't keep you from playing in the nfl.

he is considered an nfl prospect, always a highly touted football player, originally went to florida and transferred back home closer to usc. we have to wait and see. like sean just said so many questions unanswered. shaw's lawyer said he did fall from the balcony at the apartments, the same apartments where there was a police report for a break-in, so there's still a lot of dots not connected until shaw speaks and we get the true story of what happened here we don't know the extent if there was any criminal activity going on so we really don't know if this was a whole accident or if he was doing something long or something wrong i should say and tried to cover it up with a terrible story. i don't know what he was thinking. >> lesson to all of us, you lead with the truth, there's nothing to hide really because here now people are going to dig and try to find out what exactly was the cause of his fall and all the circumstances, alisyn, like you were talking about. sean, andy, thank you. what a story. let us know what you think about

it on facebook. i'm sure there will be a discussion there. a little bit more sports for you today andy, the tennis phenom who shocked the world back in action today, cici bellis taking the court with far more eyes on her in queens. >> and she's done it! >> reporter: a lot of love on the tennis court for the newest teen queen of the u.s. open. 15-year-old catherine bellis defeated the tournament's 12th seed in three sets, making her the youngest player to win a u.s. open match since anna kourniko kournikova's win in 1996. bellis, who goes by the nickname cici was an underdog going into tuesday's round. her match wasn't even supposed to be televised originally, ranked 1,208th in the women's tennis association, she earned a wild card by capturing the u.s. tennis association's under 18

girl's national championship. >> i went into the match, you know, thinking it was going to be a great experience. i never thought i'd come out on top winning. i'm still speechless. >> reporter: but the crowd wasn't. >> just having everybody out there supporting me, the atmosphere was so cool. it was just unbelievable. it was definitely giving me more energy when more people came and more people were like cheering. it was just making me play better. >> reporter: and twitter lit up with thousands of tweets commending her performance and her historic upset victory. one tweeting out requesting the only thing i upset when i was 15 was my parents." tennis pro billie jean king says this could be the start of bigger things for bellis. zblts aa different ball game to win the juniors and to have that step up into the pros. i hope it will continue for bellis, just because you have one big win you have to be careful. see how good she can be, give her time to develop.

>> let her have time to develop, bellis will have to pass on the $60,000 prize that goes to first round winners at the u.s. open in order to maintain her amateur status. if she gets on, those are bragging rights >> they're worth every single thing. >> she won't maintain amateur status very long. >> let's celebrate after. >> thank you. next up on "new day," breaking news out of ukraine. this is serious, the states between russia and tthe stakes between russia and the rest of the world even higher. russian troops, 1,000 of them, heavily armed fighting in ukraine this morning. what does this mean for that situation for vladimir putin, for the united states? and a mother directs a desperate video message to isis in an effort to free her son. will this plea work? we'll ask a former cia counterterrorism official. ♪

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-- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com breaking new information. another american allegedly killed while fighting for isis,

this as the mother of an american hostage pleads with the terror group's leader to are her son's release. will this plea work? and breaking overnight, ukraine says russia is invading, a pro-moscow rebel leader admitting russian forces are fighting alongside his. ukraine calling for an emergency u.n. meeting. the photograph that has gone viral, a producer on his way to an emmy party in beverly hills is arrested and held for hours. police thought he had been involved in a robbery. was it because he was black? he joins us live. >> your "new day" continues right now. >> announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo, kate bolduan and michaela pereira. all right, good morning, withal come to "new day" everyone. it's august 28th, 8:00 in the east. john berman along with alisyn camerota. the breaking news this morning, invasion in ukraine. u.s. officials say 1,000 russian

troops heavily armed now on the ground in ukraine fighting. they say the rebels are moving through the region taking over a key town along ukraine's southern coast believe to be rich with oil and minerals. officials in kiev calling for an emergency session at the u.n. this morning. barbara starr is at the pentagon with the latest. >> good morning, john. the pentagon and the white house waking up to a different military situation on the ground in ukraine. u.s. official telling me a short time ago the intelligence does now show up to 1,000 russian troops with heavy weapons about 12 miles inside the border inside ukraine along that southern coast near the port city of mariopol. no middle men this time, no pro-russian rebel forces.

russian troops with russian weapons. short time ago the u.s. ambassador to ukraine tweeted this, and i want to read it to everybody, "the u.russian suppl tanks, armored vehicles, artillery and multiple rocket launchers have been insufficient to defeat ukraine's armed forces so now an increasing number of russian troops are intervening directly in the fighting on ukrainian territory." we're also told the russians have put in a number of very high altitude anti-air systems that will keep, they hope at least, the ukraine air force from flying, because those systems could reach out and get to them. this comes at a very difficult time for president obama. he is scheduled to travel next week to the nato summit in wales to meet with nato leaders. russia already clearly was going to be topic number one.

the top u.s. general at nato, the military commander of nato is scheduled a short time from now at his headquarters in belgium to come and speak out about all of this. john? >> russian troops, russian heavy weapons on the ground in ukraine, barbara starr at the pentagon, thanks so much. no comment from the russian government but rebels say soldiers have crossed the border to join the fight. cnn's phil black is in moscow with more. >> reporter: alisyn, ukraine has made a lot of allegations recently about russian forces entering ukrainian territory, crossing the border, but this is different, because this is a completely different scale. the ukrainian government says the russian military forces are now engaged in direct fighting, in two key locations near donetsk and also near the port town of mariopol and they're talking large numbers, infantry, armored vehicles as well as heavy weapons. the key question is why? it is possible that this is the

move, the russian move that western governments have feared, intervening directly in the conflict to try and change the momentum, with i has been going all the way of the ukrainian government in recent weeks and months, as they have made significant gains against the rebel forces fighting there. we heard today from a rebel leader in an interview with russian state media who admitted that there are russian soldiers fighting in eastern ukraine but he said they are either veterans or they are on vacation, spending their holiday time fighting there. he says there could be as many as 4,000. if true, that could go some way towards explaining a large number of russian citizens and russian soldiers fighting there, but it would not explain the heavy presence of russian military hardware in ukrainian territory. alisyn? >> phil black, thanks so much. here to discuss the invasion in the ukraine and the other events swirling around the world, democratic congressman from the great state of vermont, peter welch.

congressman, thank you for being with us. we see what' going on in ukraine this morning with u.s. officials telling cnn that at least 1,000 russian military personnel with heavy weapons have crossed the border right now and are fighting in ukraine, this comes after stern words from the white house, after one round of sections and a second round of sanctions. is this all feudal now? is there any way to stop the russians from acting in ukraine? >> well you know, putin's got to just sober up and take a step back. this is ultimately going to be something where he either comes in line and doesn't start invading other countries or there's going to be further sanctions and a long-term siege but the bottom line, the two people that are most important here are poroshenko of course and putin. poroshenko's been doing a good job and i think putin is getting alarmed that there's been some military pushback and some effective military pushback on the part of the ukraine. but putin is doing this as much

as anything for his own domestic benefit, his popularity on this is high, but the consequences to him are grave not just with the continuation of sanctions, because this is bringing europe into unity about imposing sanctions on russia, but it's having a negative effect on the russian economy. can putin sustain it? he certainly shouldn't but he has the capacity to cause quite a bit of mischief and let's hope the pressure changes that. >> perhaps he shouldn't but he is. doesn't the fact that the u.s. now says there are these thousand russian personnel with heavy weapons fighting in ukraine show that vladimir putin at least right now doesn't care about the consequences? >> absolutely. i agree with that. it's a very reckless action on the part of putin. the question is what can we do? if he brings russian troops across, unless there's some kind of military action on the part of the west, can we stop that? the answer realistically i think with the military option is no. on the other hand -- and i don't

think we should. the present western european powers are not talking about a military option here. poroshenko has some military assets but what we are talking about is a long-term imposition of ratcheted up sanctions, that makes folks impatient at times because you want a conclusive and decisive engagement to stop it, and that then suggested to people let's do a military option, but the collateral consequences of military action oftentimes are unforeseen but oftentimes unforgiving, so i think we've got to be careful even though it's outrageous what putin is doing. >> it may be a hard pill to swallow. for now at least we just have to accept this? >> no, i'm not saying accept it. i'm saying -- the suggestion to your question and it's a fair one is that we should take some decisive military action to stop this, and i don't think that would be wise. i think it could make a bad situation worse. on the other hand, a unified approach on sanctions, keeping

up the pressure, constant engagement often-times in the long-term has the potential to reverse the situation. but we're in a pickle here. this is a bad situation, one actor, putin, can take aggressive action that we don't have the immediate capacity short of a military engagement to stop. >> it's a really interesting segue into the other crisis we're watching unfold before our eyes this morning, really a crisis in two countries, in iraq and syria, with isis invading iraq, now controlling a huge part of that country in the north, with isis in syria right now, executing american journalist james foley, holding at least one other american journalist. where do you stand, congressman, right now, on the idea of air strikes in syria to go after isis? >> well first of all, the collective revulsion against isis in congress and in america i cou couldn't be more extreme. it's outrageous. i supported the president's actions in northern iraq. that was to avert the

extermination, the genocide of the iyazidis, to protect americn personnel in erbil. we had a competentent government and reliable ally, the kurdish government, we had a peshmerga, competentent military. we had assets on the ground to follow through to provide the safe border. in syria in the middle of civil war, if isis has any competition for outrageous behavior, it's bashar al assad, who has exterminated his own people so i'd be very reluctant, count me as a skeptic about the wisdom of us engaging in a serious way, where we are getting pulled into a civil war in syria and frankly, i don't think the american people want us to do that. they've seen the limitations of american military trying to solve iraqi and syrian political problems. this ultimately is a situation of constant conflict between sunni and shia in the middle east and they've got to work

this out. >> count you as a skeptic. does that mean count you as a no vote if it does come to that if the white house does seek authorization for air strikes against isis in syria? >> well, i see what it is specifically the white house is requesting, because strikes that are about protecting our personnel, strikes that are about avoiding genocide, as we had in northern iraq, kirkuk, that was good. i mean, with he had to do that. strikes that get us engaged in a civil war and put american, have the potential to drag us in, i am a skeptic, so i'd have to see what it is the president is proposing. he's had i think remarkable restraint on this and done a good job. >> there are people who say these are strikes against people who are executing american journalists, there are people who say these would be air strikes against an organization that is a direct threat to the united states, with the possibility of recruiting american jihadists that could come attack the united states in the homeland, so there are people who say these would be

air strikes for a purpose. >> well, twhhey would have a purpose and if you hit these folks they deserve it. the question is whether the military action will have a sustainable long-term positive impact. the threat of isis is serious in the region, with you we donbut o get involved in another war in that region. there's two issues i think and two threats from isis. one is to the region. we want to support our allies there especially the peripheral states because the more we can contain the isis threat the better. the second potential threat is export of jihadism to western europe and the u.s., and that is a border issue, a homeland security issue and we've got to be super vigilant on that, i agree with that. >> congressman welch, really appreciate having you with us, enjoy your day in certainly vermont, sir. >> thank you. some headlines for you at ten past the hour now. the death toll from the ebola epidemic has now spiked to more than 1,500. another 1,500 are sick, almost

half contracted the disease just in the last three weeks. the director of the centers for disease control says the ebola outbreak is worst than feared. he said isolating africa will only make it harder to contain the spread. malaysia airlines flight 370 may have veered south earl whier than first believed. the new information was obtained through data through a satellite phone call after the jetliner fell off radar. owe fishes in australia say further examination of the data may help get a better idea of the plane's path. in a first of its kind ruling, a government immigration board says domestic abuse claims can factor into immigrants' request for asylum in the u.s. this decision stems from the case of a guatemalan woman who entered the u.s. illegally in 2005 and successly argued her husband's abuse and lack of police response made her eligible for asylum. an immigration judge will make a final ruling on that case.

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there is a frantic effort this morning to save the life of american hostage steven sotloff. he was last seen in this awful video of james foley's beheading. sotloff's mother shirley

delivering a video message directly to the leader of isis begging him to follow islamic teaching and not hold her son responsible for what she calls the sins of others. this as we're learning that a second american may have died fighting alongside the isis terrorists. miguel marquez is following all the developments for us from cambridge, massachusetts. good morning, miguel. >> reporter: john, as you know, this is a calculated risk and extraordinarily complicated situation. it's an all-out war on top of a revolution with several groups competing violently. >> he's an honorable man and always tried to help the weak. >> reporter: an impassioned plea by the mother of 31-year-old journalist steven sotloff held captive by isis. steven seen here in the same video after the sickening murder of james foley. >> my son steven is in your hands. >> reporter: shirley sotloff desperately appealing directly to isis leader abu bakr al

baghdadi, eight days after the militant group threatened to execute her son. in a nearly two-minute statement, shirley demonstrates her knowledge of islamic history, culture, and morality. >> i've learned a lot about islam. >> reporter: trying to persuade steven's captors to release him. appealing to the same religious isis says justifies its violence. >> i've learned that islam teaches that no individual should be held responsible for the sins of others. >> reporter: she even addresses baghdadi by his self-appointed title of caliph. >> you the caliph can grant amnesty. i ask you to use your authority to spare his life. >> reporter: sotloff hoping for a homecoming similar to peter theo kur ricurtis, the american hostage released earlier this week. curtis home with his mother in cambridge, massachusetts, after

spending nearly two years in captivity, held by a different jihadist group in syria. >> i say a huge thank you from my heart, from the bottom of my heart. >> reporter: this as we're learning about more americans on the other side of the fight. reports that douglas mcarthur mccain killed fighting for ice this syria over the weekend isn't alone. according to a syrian coalition fighting against isis another american also fighting alongside the group was killed. he has not yet been identified. and it is worth pointing out that mr. mccain died fighting for isis. jim foley, james foley was killed at the hands of isis and there curtis who lives here in cambridge, massachusetts, he was released by al nusra, a rival to ice this syria. it's a complicated situation and we hope mrs. sotloff's words are heard and that her son is soon

freed. back to you. >> absolutely, a complicated dangerous web there. miguel marquez, thanks so much. alisyn? >> let's analyze that tape. we bring in philip mudd, a former cia counterterrorism official and cnn analyst. phil, i know that you don't want to provide too much in-depth analysis, because you don't want -- this is a dicey situation and you don't want to get in the way or compromise the negotiation, but let's go through it, if we can, a couple of portions of it. as you heard, shirley sotloff there, is referring to the head of isis, abu bakr al baghdadi as the caliph of the islamic state. what's the significance of that? >> i think she's trying to refer to him as he wants himself to be referred to. he talked about a return to a caliphate in a well publicized speech he made out of an iraqi mosque some time ago. he's trying to present himself as the leader of the faithful. this has powerful residence in the extremist community so she's trying to have, if you will, a

face-to-face conversation using language that i think he himself has used in the past to describe himself. >> and she's being deferenitial to him because she wants him to release her some. >> i heard the earlier reporter talk about risk. i don't think there's a risk here. this is not a mom talking about politics. she's not talking about diplomacy. she's not talking about an air strike and she's not talking about a 31-year-old male journalist. this is a mom talking to a man about her son, and if you're talking to a traditional group who thinks of itself as respectful of the role of women in the family, who thinks of itself as returning to traditional islamic values, i'm proud of what she did. i think she did a terrific job. it's a mom asking for her son to come home so she can watch her grandchildren grow up. that's it. >> she also at one point as you heard in the piece she acknowledges islam and she talks

about the peaceful tenets of islam. she says "i've learned that islam teaches no individual should be held responsible for the sins of others." how do you think that plays to the self-appointed spiritual leader of isis? >> it's going to be difficult to penetrate the circles that she's trying to reach out to, and the reason is quite simple. people might not like to hear this but we've seen this in the united states. we've seen kids in high schools for example in very close circles, 16, 17 years old, get so energized by their vision of how they've been wronged that they go out and shoot other students. transfer that psychology to isis. i recognize there's not a parallel here, a perfect parallel but the psychology is similar, a very close circle of people who believe they've been wronged by communities out in the region, in other words, by corrupt governments. they believe they've been wronged by the united states and in this closed circle they persuade themselves that murder is an appropriate response to oppression. she's trying to break that circle. i think the islamic references

she makes are fine but i think the powerful reference goes beyond that, and that is a reference to family. if you're going to break that closed circle, to my mind that's one way potentially to break it, to talk to al baghdadi about her responsibility as a mom to her child. >> we know that isis is active online. we know that they are, they pride themselves on their pr. do you think that baghdadi will watch this video? >> yes i do. if he doesn't watch it, someone out there will. they're very cognizant of what's going on in the world. we've seen them for example talk about events in missouri. i don't think they always understand how their message resonates in the west but at a fringe level, there are people in the united states and europe who believe in that fringe message, so they're trying to listen to those people, to the fringes they want to recruit from. there will be people in the organization who watch this. i was noting for example the british security authorities are still talking about 500 or 600 kids who went from the uk out to

iraq. so it's not clear that tens of thousands of people will listen to the message that they tweet out after events like this, but if they reach tens or hundreds, to them that's a big success. >> how do you think she constructed this message? it seems as though she has, she somehow got some insight into what baghdadi might be thinking. >> i'm not sure how she constructed. i'm not going to comment on what she did or didn't do. i will say as a counterterrorism professional, and frankly as a human being who has watched this for 30 years, i was simply struck by the message outside islam, the message that says a mom wants her son home. don't you understand this? coming from a culture where the respect for the mom in the home is incredible in the middle east. you can have debates about how women are treated oyou the ut i culture. we had an extremist murder a woman in somalia recently because she wasn't wearing in

their eyes proper headgear. regardless of what you think the mom in the home is highly respected in this region and i think that message might resonate. i hope and pray it does. >> historically speaking, do personal appeals, personal video appeals like this work on terrorists? >> i've not seen this happen this often. again, i heard a reference to the risk of bringing this into the public sphere. i don't know what kind of behind the scenes negotiations or interaction there is with isis on this. i suspect zero or very little, in contrast to the negotiations with al nusra or the commentary that al nusra was listening to the government that led to a release from the qatari government a week or so ago. i'm not familiar but after we saw the beheading of the journalist recently i don't see the downside to a mom trying to speak publicly out for her son and you have to put yourself in her shoes. what's she supposed to do? supposed to sit there silently watching as this tragedy unfolds? i looked at it and said, forget

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says flat out this is an invasion. how much of an escalation is this? >> well, they are calling it that and as you've mentioned, u.s. and other analysts including nato have confirmed that actual russian forces and materiel have crossed into that city in southeastern ukraine. now there are different analyses of what's going on. some are saying that this may be a russian attempt to sort of divide and conquer if you like, because the separatists in the other parts of the separatists held parts of eastern ukraine have been on the back foot recently as the ukrainian government succeeded in pushing them back a lot. now they may be trying to draw out the ukrainian forces and spread them thinner. alternatively this is another theory and one that the commander of nato, general breedlove had told me several months ago that russia may be trying to implement some kind of establishment of a land route, a land bridge from russia to crimea, which at the moment it doesn't have, but whatever it

is, continued instability, it's obviously a dramatic escalation. i've spoken several times to president poroshenko of ukraine who says this must be resolved what does the west do about this? >> they don't know if there be any confrontation to russia as the west may or may not be

conplating against isis. what happens is potentially a ratcheting up of sanctions but also the nato, the sec. tear general has said that there's going to be more deployment of nato materiel to try to preposition and keep sort of a defensive nature at the very least, and keep trying to pressure president putin economically, diplomatically, politically, to see that this is basically not going to serve russia in any which way, but in the meantime, it causes immense destabilizati destabilization, and ukrainian forces do not want to engage with the russian forces because they will get whipped as the georgian forces did when they tried to do that in 2008, when russia took over south asettia. the ukrainian forces do not want to endwangage with the russian forces per se and those who have done are pushed back. >> christiane is this indication

the sanctions are not working if they can't keep vladimir putin from escalating the military situation, one could ask what good are they? >> they have had an effect. they absolutely have had an effect on the russian economy, on the stock market, on the currency. they've had an effect in isolating vladimir putin to an extent that he would not want to be isolated. yes, i mean it's continued diplomatic pressure that's obviously going to have to somehow find some kind of a breakthrough, because it's very difficult to see right now how this is going to be solved in any immediate term, if indeed that doesn't, the political and diplomatic breakthrough doesn't happen. we may know a little bit more about how the west confronts this because the nato summit is going to be held in wales next week and obviously ukraine, russia, isis, afghanistan, these major, major challenges are going to be front and center. it will be a very important nato

meeting here in wales in exactly a week from now. >> the timing is stunning. two days after vladimir putin meets with president poroshenko, days before this big nato meeting meeti meeting in wales. put yourself in the head of vladimir putin. what could be possibly be thinking? one might be to create a land corridor with crimea. is it possible he's looking for an honorable exit to this, leave with a strong hand? >> if he had been looking for an honorable exit that one was offered oevery and over again, most particularly several times. we were there in normandy on d-day shortly after the election of petro poroshenko. poroshenko offers the best chance for vladimir putin to have a face-saving way out. in normandy with the u.s. president barack obama, with the german chancellor angela merkel, with all the nato and other

leaders, they did meet poroshenko and putin and afterwards i spoke to poroshenko and said sometimes president putin is very emotional about what's going on and sometimes pragmatic. the question is we don't know when he is which. we think there is a peaceful way out of this. i have offered a detailed please plan, one that respects the rights of the rush sian speakin minority in eastern ukraine, so he says yes, we can do this but then he doesn't do it. so they believe that putin is either being boxed in by the propaganda that he's already created, but also the desire to control events in ukraine, or that he has entirely nefarious designs and no matter what he says to poroshenko or to the western public he's doing something completely other in private. so what's in his head? it's hard to get into his head, but you know, actions kind of speak louder than words at the moment. >> those actions are putting

1,000 troops heavily armed on the ground inside ukraine. we'll be watching this all morning. christiane amanpour thanks so much. appreciate it. alisyn? the fbi is investigating a string of cyber attacks on u.s. banks, it could be russian hackers. we'll give you the facts. and a black tv producer pulled over, handcuffed, and held for six hours before police realized they had the wrong man. that producer speaks to us next.

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the fbi is investigatinging a series of cyber attacks against u.s. banks thought to be coming from russia. hackers are believed to have accessed sensitive information from several financial institutions, including banking giant jpmorgan chase. could this be retaliation for western sanctions against the russians? christine romans is here with more. is this retaliation? >> that's what the investigation is going to of to really zero in on here quite frankly alisyn. u.s. official tells us the location of the hackers still isn't clear but the cyber security community says the center should center on russia. hackers from russia are often top fbi suspects. also still this question the motivation still unclear if the attack was financially or politically motivated or some sort of espionage. banks have tough security, getting through that and getting account information, getting so much information definitely not an easy task. in response to the breach

jpmorgan said companies of this size experience attacks every day and the bank has measures to protect itself. the fbi owe fishes are investigating the cause. >> aren't hackers always trying to get into the banks? >> they are knocking on the door every day, eastern urine peen, russian hackers, chinese hackers, hackers from all over the world. the cyber security says this looks like political motivation with at least the knowledge as one expert told us this morning of the russian government because they are so angry about barngz being the tools with which the u.s. is carrying out sanctions against russia. they've frozen accounts, disallowed transfers of money from one account to another, something the banks have to do under u.s. law. >> great information christine romans, or just romans as john berman says. sometimes he calls me oh beautiful one.

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beverly hills police are poll j apologizing to an african-american tv producer after he was mistakenly arrested for a crime he did not commit. this comes amid growing concerns about police discrimination across the country. charles beck, you may have seen this picture online, seen here handcuffed, sitting on a sidewalk, was headed to an emmy party, when police accused him of robbing a nearby bank. he was arrested, held for about six hours before police realized their mistake. the bevel hills police department said belk closely matched a description of the suspect. he said this happened because he was "misidentified as the wrong

tall bald head black male fitting the description." he got up really early this morning in los angeles to tell us the story. well, my man, this is quite a tale you have. tell me about it. >> yes indeed. >> now i can talk to you personally what went on. you're on the way to a pre-emmy party and minding your business and what happens? >> i was walking down the street to my car, looking at my phone, a police officer from the beverly hills police department pulled up in front of me on his motorcycle and said "could you come hear, please" and immediately asked for my identification and asked me to sit down on the curb. >> you thought to yourself, was i texting while walking? is that illegal in beverly hills? what did you think immediately? >> i was really confused, and i think, as i displayed my level of confusion and looking at him, he was very anxious to quickly

get me on the curb, and so i was like, really, really intent on making sure that i gave him no reason to think that i was not cooperating. >> so you complied. you sat down on the curb. the handcuffs are put on you. what is he saying to you as this is all going on? >> he is actually -- he did look at me when i was sitting down. he said just so you know because i want to be up front with you, you match the description. >> the description of what? >> that was it. "you matched the description" and i'm sitting thinking the description of what? >> and so then tell us more what happens. i want to you back up a second, because you were kind of in a rush, correct? you were trying to get to your car and had to get somewhere else. >> absolutely. very interesting, i was in a rush to my car because my parking meter was about to expire. i didn't want to break the law and get a ticket. i was concerned about that, and in fact, under normal

circumstances i would have been rushing, walking very rapidly if not running. i had a text that come in, and i stopped to walk a little slower, as i was reading that text, otherwise i definitely would have been running to my car, and if you can imagine what i'm thinking now, that if i would have been running when they thought that i was a suspect in some high-profile armed crime, i'm not sure if the circumstances would have been that facial for me. >> in their defense, there was a bank robbery that had happened nearby and there was a description of a bald black male. were you wearing the same clothes or the same colors as this suspect? >> so as far as i have been told, i was told that the bald black male had on a green shirt and tan pants, which is what i had on that day, because i hadn't changed yet for the evening event. i was transitioning from another event and it was casual mode at that time. the interesting point about this, michaela, to me, is that

what does that mean, black male. is that an onyx black, is that a jet black or is it a brown? is it a coffee bruin browown, a brown? i'm a tahitian sunset brown. >> okay charles i see what you did there. >> exactly. >> i appreciate that. i do. fast forward, you're arrested. you're taken to the police station. are you given a phone call? are you allowed to reach out to anybody? are you told why you're being held? >> eventually -- so after sitting down for about two or three minutes, that was when -- first it was just one cop, then there were about four, five, six more cops came. one came right out of the car and immediately came over to me, approached me very aggressively, had me stand up, patted me down, put handcuffs on me and then indicated that i needed to sit back down on the curb. took a very strong kind of approach with me, but again, i

did not want to give them any reason to think that i was not going to cooperate. so i sat out there probably for 45 minutes to an hour on the curb on busy boulevard at rush hour traffic on friday on emmy awards weekend, vma awards weekend, everybody's watching me. i sat there with my head down in handcuffs on the curb. >> this is not how you expected your day to go at all. i'm sure people were expecting you where you were supposed to be conducting business. at any point were you able to protest, sort of explain who you were, what you were to bdoing? you are an award winning professional, a person well respected in your community for the work do you and philanthropic ventures. were you able to tell them that you were the wrong guy? >> a lieutenant came over and that's probably five or ten minutes into it, he then kind of explained the situation, there was a bank robbery, a little bit more. that's when i went hey, look, i

own my own company. i consult in the industry. i consult with various organizations. i did not rob a bank. i did not do anything, but once they asked me to stand up, get into their car, they kind of pushed, got me into the back, not pushed, i'm sorry but got me into the back of the police car and hauled me away to the station, i still didn't know what was going on, what i was being charged for. i was all the time thinking to myself, this will sort itself out because clearly there are cameras. >> it did because you were able to call a friend, they called the naacp, they were able to get you out. you're now free. they have apologized. is that apology enough for you? >> well, so i appreciate that apology. let me just clarify you on one point. i actually was not able to call a friend. friend was there with me explaining to the officer that we had just finished eating. we were just around the corner. i kind of yelled back to my

friend, i was like please call so and so. he called a friend of mine, robin harrison from the naacp hollywood bureau who then called an attorney. if it wasn't for that, i think i really would have been on my own at that police station. when i got to the beverly hills police station and once they went through the process of taking my fingerprints, taking my photo, they had taken my belt, my shoes, my wallet, everything out of my wallet, i asked him, i said wow, this is a real, this is like a nightmare and one of the officers, the booking officer said to me, "this is a serious crime you committed." >> oh. >> i thought to myself, i've been convicted. i've been tried and convicted all in a very short period of time. >> charles -- >> i asked to make -- >> you were able to make the phone call, sorry, we've run short on time. >> sorry about that. >> no, no, this is an important story considering what we've been seeing going on across the country right now, a real hot topic and you unfortunately

experienced this for yourself. man in his 50s a professional being mistakenly arrested for a crime he did not commit. charles belk thank you for sharing your story. we're so glad that you are out and in good humor. we'll watch to see what the outcome of all of this is. thanks for sharing your story with us on "new day." >> thank you so much, michaela and one last thing, i hope they can start making it about the face and not about the race. >> that's right, that's right, well said. thanks so much, charles. we'll talk a short break. when we come back we'll tell you the story of a couple well they split up, called it quits before their wedding but what they did after this, well that's "the good stuff." (son) oh no... can you fix it, dad?

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