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about our two-year price guarantee. comcast business. built for business. thanks for watching "state of the union." i'm candy crowley from washington. watch us each weekend at this time or set your dvr. fareed zakaria "gps" starts right now. this is "gps" the global public square. welcome to all of you in the united states and around the world. i'm fareed zakaria coming to you live from new york. we're focused today's show on the three main crises in the world now. the threat of the islamic state in iraq, syria, and beyond. russia's extraordinary actions in ukraine and the cease-fire in gaza. i will talk with former national security add advisor and line berman.
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and out of syria and has access to sources. both agreed to speak if their identities were not revealed. this european official says the islamic group has considerable economic strength. he estimates it is making $1 million a day in syria and iraq each by selling oil and gas although u.s. experts believe the number is too high in iraq. the islamic state's military strategy is brutal but also smart. the group's annual reports, yes, it has issued annual reports since 2012, detail its military methods and successes to try to impress its backers and funders. the videos posted online of executions are barbaric but strategic. they are designed to sew terror
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in the minds of opponents who when facing islamic state fighters on the battlefield now reportedly flee rather than fight, but the most dangerous aspect of the islamic state this diplomat believes is the idea logical appeal. it has recruited sunni youth in iraq who believe they have been ruled by regimes. how to handle this challenge? the america, a former senior administration figure councils against pessimism. the islamic state could be defeated, he says, but it would take a comprehensive and sustained strategy much like the one that under girded the surge in iraq. the first task is political, he said. supporting the obama administration's efforts to press the iraqi government to become more inclusive. we have more leverage now than at any time in recent years and the administration is using it, he said. if this continues, the next step would be to create the most
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powerful and effective ground force that could take on the islamic state, which would not be american troops, would not be the free syrian army, but, rather, a reconstituted iraqi army. remember, that force was built, trained, equipped by the united states. the former american official says it's actually got some very effective units. the iraqi special forces were trained in jordan and are extremely impressive, unquote. pointing out that it was those forces that captured the mosul dam recently. it's under performed recently because then prime minister nuri al-maliki has transformed it into a sectarian and loyalist force. the two observers agreed on one central danger, the temptation to gain immediate military victories over the islamic state could mean that the united states would end up tacitly partnering with bashar al assad's regime in syria.
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this would produce a short-term military gain against the islamic state but it would be a long-term political disaster. it would feed the idea that the sunnis in iraq and syria are embattled, that a crusader christian shiite alliance is persecuting them and that all sunnis must resist this alien invasion the european diplomat said. the key is that sunnis must be in the lead against i.s. they must be in front of the battlefield, he said. the strategy that could work against the islamic state is nothing less than a second sunni awakening. it's a huge challenge but it appears to be the only option with a plausible chance of success. for more go to cnn.com/fareed to read my "washington post" column.
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let's get started. in a few moments i will talk with america's elder states man, and then israeli foreign minister avigdor lieberman. let's get caught up on both from iraq and ukraine. u.s. and iraqi forces have just chalked up a victory against isis or the islamic state. the town of amerli had been under siege by the islamic state for more than 2 1/2 months. that siege has just been broken thanks to iraqi forces and local militias coordinating with u.s. fire power from the air. cnn's anna coran is there north of amerli. explain to us what broke the siege which seemed to be very tough for very long. >> reporter: very tough very long, fareed, but not quite sure how much force was being used over the last two months. certainly after the united
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nations special representative here in iraq signalled that alarm a week ago saying a potential massacre was underway, that seemed to get the ball rolling. we saw much more involvement from the iraqi military. obviously the u.s. taking part in those airstrikes yesterday dropping off humanitarian aid as well as australia, the u.k., and france. but it wasn't until really that red flag went up, fareed, that help finally arrived. as you say, it was under siege for some two months. power, water cut off. according to people on the ground, dozens of children have died as a result of the conditions in that township made up of turks and shia. a crisis has been averted. >> anna, what is your sense of an iraqi army. everyone was surprised how quickly it collapsed a couple of months ago when isis advanced. does it feel like it has gotten
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back its momentum? >> reporter: look, i think it's fair to say that when the iraqi military decides to be effective, it certainly can be. as we have seen at amerli over the past several days and certainly at the mosul dam which is where we were last week. they were very important to helping the kurdish forces, the peshmerga, take back that very critical piece of infrastructure, but as we know, fareed, these two organizations are not working together. they've been operating quite independently. so there's a real feeling that the iraqi military needs to work with the kurdish forces, the peshmerga up here in northern iraq to be effective. we spoke to the senior officials within the kurdistan government. they say we only need to protect our borders, but we do not want isis as our neighbor, therefore, we are prepared to go beyond and take the fight to isis, which is
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what we are seeing up in mosul dam. we were up there yesterday, fareed, and whilst they have this critical piece of instructure, the surrounding towns were still under isis control. we were surprised. we were hearing that the advance is happening by the kurdish forces. isis is digging in. we're seeing it time and time again. the u.s. air strikes are focused in that area. there have been 115 to date. still, isis is digging in. that is why they need a more intensive u.s. air campaign and they also need reinforcements and those very vital weapons, fareed, to fight the isis militants. >> thanks, anna. stay safe. that was anna coren in irbil for us. let's turn to the ukraine where the president says the
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crisis is worsening and inching closer to full scale war. can this be avoided? just yesterday russian president vladimir putin called for immediate talks to work on a political solution to work on the crisis. cnn's phil black is in moscow with more. phil, is it your sense that this is the off ramp that people have been looking for, that people have hoped for so that russia gets serious about negotiations or is this one more of the many head fakes that vladimir putin has done? he talks about negotiations. there are now apparently hundreds of russian tanks in ukraine. >> reporter: it doesn't appear to be a reason for optimism, fareed, at all. vladimir putin is talking about the need to structure new government. he wants to have greater autonomy for that region. it's not a new idea. it's been discussed many times. the central government is prepared to negotiate a position.
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so that's where the deadlock is. putin himself admits that is not likely to be resolved quickly. you would also have to think as you touched on there that kiev is not going to be in the mood for accepting advice from moscow on how to make peace at the moment given that it has accused russia of invading its territory with regular troops this week. that is an allegation russia has denied. continues to insist it is not sending soldiers across the border. russia cannot be part of any peace process because his influence is limited with those pro russian rebels and because russia is not a direct party to the conflict. fareed. >> thank you, phil. of course, putin was able to get them to establish a humanitarian corridor. he does seem to have some influence. cnn's phil black in moscow. next up on gps, two guests.
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let's dig deeper into the crisis and what the u.s. should do to quell. joining me is former u.s. national security advisor, brzezinski. let me start by asking you a simple question. should the obama administration describe what is happening in ukraine as a russian invasion of that country? >> i think we have to indicate that that, in fact, is our view
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and it is a view shared by much of the international community. the russian troops are crossing the border. the russian tanks are firing across the border and there they are. ukrainians who are pro russian being harmed by the russians. it is, therefore, a serious threat to piece. >> have we misread putin. have we misread his pain threshold? how do you view our kind of interactions? when i say our i suppose the western align's interactions with putin? >> there are two aspects to it. one, there is no doubt that what has happened in ukraine has been a major blow to his personal and international ambitions, namely to recreate something like the
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soviet union calling it a eurasian union in which russia based on the support of an important country like ukraine and belarus and the other former soviet republics becomes a dominant power. ukraine's decision not to go down that path has created serious problems for putin's plans and has encouraged other countries who are never for it to increasingly indicate whether they would like that. pakistan, uzbekistan. on the other hand, there is the west. i think we have been very slow in convincing putin that he cannot go all the way. i think we should have acted earlier in providing more explicit support for ukraine. i have been on the record while urging an eventual accommodation. we can come back to that. urging an eventual accommodation to russia. we should have been willing to
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say to russia and others, ukraine is in effect disarmed. we're going to provide defensive weapons to the ukrainians which can be used against invading tanks, against invading artillery, which can give the ukrainians some sense that they can defend their cities more effectively than is the case today. we've let that drag for several months. i think push is coming to shove. the next week is going to be very important. one of the reasons we have been so slow is that it's divided. i think now increasingly all the major partners in nato and the european union are in favor of a common stand. >> at the end of this week there will be a nato summit in wales. what is the most important thing that can come out of that summit. >> a reaffirmation that nato is an active and meaningful
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alliance prepared to take what steps are necessary to defend its collective security. that involves clearly some sort of decision to station on a permanent basis nato forces, including americans, including germans, including britts, including french, including even italians who are aspiring to a more active role in the baltic states and poland. poland is self sufficient. so that the russians know that these states are not like ukraine because putin clearly has indicated that if he succeeds in ukraine with these sorts of tactics on behalf of larger russian unity, whatever that means, he'll do the same to the baltic states where there are significant russian minorities resident. very, very close to the border with russia.
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>> the washington post editorialized i think a day or two ago that president obama has been far too passive in his reaction to these crises minimizing it. it is time for president obama to stop telling us what the united states cannot do in the world and tell us what it can do. i suppose president obama would say it's trying to prevent people from panicking. how do you see it? >> i see it a little differently. i think that he was very clear-cut in his reactions, rather strong to russian aggression vis-a-vis ukraine, but he has an alliance and he has an alliance that's very complicated of some 25 or more states some of which are very reticent to lift a finger. they're all very glad to have american protection in nato. not all of them are prepared to carry their burden, to stand together. it's been taking time to mobilize by chancellor merkel is now a very strong figure in support of strong reactions. hollande of france is beginning to view it the same way. cameron of brittain is beginning
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to be deeply engaged and so forth and so forth. i think the nature of the game is changing. we now, i think, are going to take a strong stand. incidentally, i think we should talk privately but very seriously to the chinese about this. the russians, i'm not being smart about this, the russians are claiming privately that the chinese support it. my view is different. i think they know if putin's adventurism causes a conflict, there will be a severe threat to global well-being. that for them will be a fundamental disaster. i think the chinese ought to be more active in telling putin to layoff and changing borders nowadays so many decades after world war ii and earlier world war i is not the way to deal with international problems. they ought to take that stand. they're a major power. they're a partner of ours. they cannot be silent and simply
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sitting on the sidelines. one question on the islamic state before i let you go. when you look at this problem, you've got it feels to me almost like a 12-cornered fight. you've got the islamic state, other jihadist militias, moderates, iraqi army, kurdish forces. i bet you a lot of americans are looking at it and saying, i don't know whether we should get dragged into this too much. it's easy to see how we would get sucked in. it's very difficult to see how we would somehow solve all of this. >> well, you know, in a way they're right. i had an excellent piece on this this weekend. it's a very complicated issue. obviously we cannot assume unilateral sole responsibility. we have to recognize that the enemy is not what its name suggests. we think of this islamic state. it's not a state. it's a bunch of decentralized
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briggons united by views managed from a single leadership but not very effectively and it is not a state. it is a kind of active mobile rebellion and it will have to be dealt with in different ways in different areas. you have already had some discussion on this program of iraq. i think that's a simple front. the iraqis may be able to act with us. in some other cases others may have to take the lead. we can support them indirectly. in brief, this cannot be an american enterprise led from the top. it has to be an enterprise in which america's active and suggestive and plays a major role, particularly from the air, but is also one in which oremus limb countries have to be more responsibly involved. turkey, saudi arabia, egypt come to mind immediately. in a more limited fashion iran, which is a shiite state. we don't want be this to be turned into a shiite/sunni
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contention but it is a state with its own history. it is not a religious faction. there are complications here, but i think we could manage them more intelligently than we have so far. >> always a pleasure to have you on. next on "gps," most of the world is happy that the israelis and palestinians have found a temporary and fragile piece, but not my next guest who is israel's foreign minister. avigdor lieberman will join us next. we help make secure financial tomorrows a reality for over 19 million people. [ mom ] with life insurance, we're not just insuring our lives... we're helping protect his. [ female announcer ] everyone has a moment when tomorrow becomes real. transamerica. transform tomorrow. transamerica. ♪ ♪ imagine the luxury... of not being here.
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gaza and qatar, they verified their position. they explained that they will fight israel and their goal to wipe out the state of israel. and i think that we must deliberate our position regarding hamas from the beginning, from scratch. and i think that we have enough force to finish the story and to topple this terrorist organization. and i don't see any differences between hamas and isis and al qaeda. we saw their executions in gaza strip. it's exactly like islamic states
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al qaeda. >> so if this is your view, this is a fairly major disagreement with the prime minister. this is not a small matter. this is not a domestic matter. how can you continue to stay as foreign minister of a government on the principle foreign policy issue that you face you disagree with the government's policy? >> no. at the end of the day we have cabinet and i have to recognize the minority in our government, but we want part of very important part of this coalition and we will support our government because alternative new elections i think it's really better for the state of israel. >> but do you want a reoccupation of gaza effectively, would that be fair? >> no. no. what i really -- and i would
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like to clarify my position, to topple hamas, to bring people, to moderate people and take power in gaza strip. we have our experience 14 years, 9 years since disengagement, and we see hamas, what kind of administration and how radicals deal with it and we see the consequences every day. rockets on israel and i don't know any other countries that would accept reality with everyday rockets on their towns, cities and i think it's our right for our self-defense. >> let me ask you about the other palestinian group. mahmoud abbas, the head of the
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palestinian authority just recently, i think yesterday, said his next move is going to be to demand a timetable for israel's withdrawal from the west bank and if that is not forthcoming, to press charges of war crimes against israel at the international court of justice. what is your reaction to that? >> i think that it's clear that any unilateral steps will damage any opportunity to establish real peace to achieve real comprehensive solution. i am sorry about the unilateral steps. we are sorry about all the accusations against mahmoud abbas. also if somebody thinks that he is a partner, how it can be that our main partner in negotiations accused israel of crimes against humanity, war crimes, et cetera. if we're really trying to
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achieve comprehensive solution, we have only one way, to negotiate, to sit around the table and not to place pressure on your partners and to use your automatic majority in international forum. i think it's the wrong way, the wrong direction and we hope that at the end of the day we will see from the palestinian side reasonable and real reliable partners. >> mr. foreign minister, thank you so much for joining us. hope we can do it next time in person. when we come back, go ahead, take a break. relax. i will explain to you why
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now for our what in the world segment. the world's second richest man said last month that we should all be working just three days a week, which is why steven corbett joked. >> which is why he's the second richest man. >> he's not alone. fellow billionaire, larry paige, co-founder of google, recently pushed for reduced work week as well. why are the megarich telling us to work less. they have different strategies and goals, but they are right that being a workaholic is not only bad for your health and sanity, it's bad for the economy really. americans are notorious workaholics. they take much less vacation and
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work longer work weeks than most of their counterparts. here's one more piece of american exceptionalism. america is the only advanced economy where workers are not guaranteed paid vacation time. as a result, it's said that 23% of americans get no paid holidays or vacation. americans who do get paid time off only take about half of it on average according to one survey. by contrast, europeans believe in a work/life balance. across the atlantic workers are guaranteed at least 20 paid vacation days a year. in some countries employees enjoy as many as 25 or 30 days. it's not just in the united states that work/life balance is off. south korean as are also workaholics. in 2012 south koreans worked nearly the longest hours of any oecd country. south koreans were only 2/3 as productive as the average oecd worker that same year. as a result of working too hard,
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perhaps, south koreans are the most sleep deprived of any oecd citizens. so in order to boost productivity this summer the city of soule encouraged government workers, get this, to take a daily nap. now in general workers from poorer countries using less fancy technology are generally less productive than workers in richer countries, so asian workers have historically been less productive than americans though the gap is narrowing. germans work 600 hours less than every year than the greek counterparts but german productivity is 70% higher. americans are truly exceptional in that we work long hours and still maintain relatively high productivity levels. americans should take some time off to relax and recharge. it may pay off. the accounting firm ernst and young studied its employees. for every additional ten hours of vacation an employee took, the company saw an 8%
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the summer of 2014 will go down in history as a miserable one for hollywood. ticket sales down. revenue down considerably. the film business is at an inflection point, and i wanted to explore that with my next guest, linda obst, who knows hollywood from the inside. she is also one of its keenest observers. >> it's magic. >> she is the producer of such hits as "sleepless in seattle." >> we are not wrong. >> "contact and the fisher king." she's also an author about a book on the industry's issues. "sleepless in hollywood." pleasure to have you on. >> pleasure to be here. >> i have to start by asking you about the biggest trend in movies as far as i'm concerned since i have an 11-year-old and 6-year-old daughter which is "frozen." that's the biggest animated
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movie in history. why? >> it's a phenomenal movie. it's changed the paradigm of all animated movies, partly because it stars girls and it empowers girls. when i first came into the business i was told by the head of an animation company that all animated movies had to star boys. i was very sad because i had granddaughters. this has obviously changed that. then of course it's a great musical ♪ but why "frozen" is the hit that it is has everyone scrambling to try to create another. >> you point out that this is something new and big in movies, which is movies about and for women and young girls. >> that's right. and when you think about it, that at the same time no female-driven movies are being made for the older girls and women, and yet the biggest blockbusters are being made for teens and young girls, you have to imagine what's going to happen to these young girls when
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they grow up and they expect female protagonists. >> but for now what they're getting is a lot of these movies. it all comes out of the twilight stuff, right? >> that's exactly right. that was the first female franchise which came out of ya, young adult literature. young adult literature attracted so much social media. "twilight" was the first. then there was ""the hunger games."" then there was "divergent" and then "the fault in our stars." all of this came out of the ya phenomenon. this was intrinsically caught up with our social media. >> but basically among girls. >> among girls, exactly. and they drive the sale of the movies. >> what do boys do? >> boys are in video games. boys are sometimes going to the movies but not in the droves they used to. >> is this part of a growing
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number of writers, directors, even executives in hollywood who are women or is it unrelated? >> i would love you tell you, fareed, that that were true. there are executive who are women. there are producers who are though not more female driven adult movies are being made but there are not more directors for women. that is a catastrophically low number. >> when we talked in the past, you pointed out one of the big shifts that has taken place in movie making is the rise of the global market and the need to focus on that market which produces these action movies and sequels and things that you don't need a lot of english, you don't need a lot of dialogue or character development. has that trend continued in the way you described it a few years ago? >> it has. the key issue in the international as it's begun to break down isn't just the action
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sequences. it's preawareness. it's the ability for the international audience to be aware of the title of the movie. >> if i remember what you told me the last time is it was possible to buy enough advertising in the united states to create awareness but when you're dealing with 40 countries, nobody has that kind of ad money. >> exactly. you can't take television advertising out all over the world. you just can't afford that. if you already know the title, if it's "the avengers," if it's "batman," if it's "spider-man" it's easy to open. the hardest thing in the world is to open an original movie which is the crisis. we want to see original movies. we hunger for freshness and originality and it's hard to open a movie if you don't know the title. that's one of the reasons why
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these books have a chance to work internationally. once they hit the $100 million mark domestically, they automatically get an international opening with certain guarantees, with certain promotional guarantees. "frozen" is huge internationally. there are certain universals that you can take for granted about girls around the world. >> you say comedy is back. >> which is very exciting because last summer what worked as all of the sequels were failing, comedy worked and the audience was starving for something funny and when the world is grim, you want to laugh. >> so long as syria, iraq, ukraine stay on the boil, we'll find the next woody allen somewhere. >> it's very possible. sad but true. >> pleasure to have you on. >> fareed, it's wonderful to see
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the oecd recently released a study that measured the financial literacy of students across 18 countries and economies. it brings me to my question. which country got the highest score on the financial literacy test? which country has the world's most financially savvy teenagers? is it the united states, belgium, china or estonia? this week's book of the week is a repeat. "the mantel of command" is an examination of the rules of franklin roosevelt during world war ii. he was overruling generals and firing them when they underperformed and keeping larger strategic issues at the center of his approach. it's a great book for anyone who wants to understand the nature of great leadership. and now for the last look. car ownership is part of the
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american dream, right? it sure is expensive. according to aaa, the average car owner in america shells out almost $9,000 per year for his or her vehicle. in just a decade, citizens of one city may be taking a true last look at their own cars. the city laid out a plan that says could allow all inhabitants of the finished capital to go car free by 2025. call it the uberization of transportation. they intend to pursue a comprehensive point to point mobility system that will allow you to travel from point a to point b in a myriad of ways. all assessable in one integrated place. the hope is that it will be as convenient as having your own car and revolutionize city living. by that same year, 2025, 58% of the world's population will be
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living in cities and people who live in cities in developed countries use less energy than their rural counterparts partly because of small living quarters but also because urban dwellers use public transportation and not cars. if you have ever been to a city like los angeles or my hometown of mumbai, they don't have the infrastructure for great public transport systems. anyone that spent time sitting in traffic in these cities should be relieved to hear that one day there may be an app to solve that problem. the correct answer to our "gps" challenge question was c, china. belgium and estonia rounded out the top three. american teens were on par with the average so not completely lagging behind but mediocre. overall, only one in ten students in all 18 countries was able to tackle the most
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difficult financial literacy tasks. as your teen starts the school year, make sure that in addition to reading and math, they are developing the skills necessary to make sound financial decisions. according to this study, we all have a lot of work to do. thanks to all of you for being part of my program this week. i'll see you next week. hello, everyone. i'm fredricka whitfield. thank you for spending your holiday weekend with us. first up, lawless in libya. new amateur video appears to show libyan militia fighters jumping into the swimming pool at the u.s. embassy compound in tripoli. what the u.s. ambassador to libya is saying about the bizarre scene and a siege broken in iraq. thousands of people freed from the brutal grip of isis. we'll tell you how the u.s. and its a