6:00 in the east. it's labor day. i'm john berman. >> i'm alisyn camerota. we begin with breaking news. >> shocking and surprising when i woke up and saw this. we are hearing this morning from three americans being held by north korea. kenneth bae, matthew miller, jeffrey foal, the latter two have been held since the spring. we have reported extensively on bay who has been detained since november of 2012. >> cnn's will ripley was in north korea reporting on other stories when north korean officials brought him in to meet with these three separately. north korean official monitored the interviews. how are the americans doing? do they think they will ever make it back home to the u.s. here is some of what kenneth bae, held for two years, had to say. >> what do you know about the charges -- do you believe you're guilty of the charges you've

been convicted of here? >> yes. >> you're currently serving time. can you tell me about your conditions? >> i'm serving a 15-year sentence right now. i've been going back and forth from hospital to the labor camp for the last year and a half. right now i'm serving at the labor camp right now. >> can you tell me about the conditions at the labor camp? >> condition in labor camp is i'm working eight hours a day, six days a week and working agricultural work to other hard labor every day. >> are you being treated humanely? >> yes. >> your message to your family. >> well, i'm sure they're very worried about my health at this time. even though right now -- last month and a half, i hamy heart s

been -- right now what i can say to my family and friends is continue to pray for me and also ask them to continue an effort in getting me released here. >> can you tell what you did? did you know at that time you were breaking the law in north korea? >> i did not quite agree wah the charges until i got here. and after being trial for for that period of time i realized that what i did was offended and has violated their law. but at the time i wasn't quite sure that it was as serious as they're charging me now. >> can you give me more insight about your daily life. do you have any contact with any of the other americans or other koreans? >> no. i'm the only prisoner in the

camp. i've been the only prisoner in the camp for the last year and a half. i didn't have anybody else in the camp other than the guard. there's one doctor stationed in there as well. >> how many staff members are overseeing you? >> at least 15 or 20 people on a daily basis. but there are i think 30 or more people in the camp. >> do you get to talk to people on a daily basis? what kind of communication do you have? >> just talking with the guard and just small talk, and that's all. >> will ripley is in north korea for us. will, what incredible access you were granted. did the north korean officials put any restrictions on you or what you could ask? >> reporter: yes. so we were told that we had five minutes with each american and we were only allowed to discuss very specific topics, the

charges they're facing in north korea, the conditions under which they're being held and any message they have to pass along to their families and to the american government. we were told very strongly not to go beyond the five-minute limit or those topics. >> tell us about -- >> reporter: we interviewed in addition to kenneth bae, we also spoke with matthew miller and jeffrey foul. matthew miller was detained in april. he admitted to essentially coming the the airport in pyongyang, tearing up his tourist visa and seeking asylum in north korea. here is what he had to say when i asked him about his detainment here. >> can you tell me about the charges you're facing in north korea? >> i will not find out until i go to trial, but i will say that i prepared to violate the law of

the dprk before coming here, and i deliberately committed my crime. i have already admitted my guilt and apologized to the government of the dprk, and i have been asking for forgiveness. >> tell me about your conditions here, how you're being treated? >> i'm with good health, have received medical checks and provided with humanitarian treatment. >> and what is your message to your family? >> first i'll just say my message to my government. i've been requesting help for a long time and there has been no movement from my government. the american government is known for having a strong policy of protecting its citizens, yet for my case there is still no movement. i've also written a letter to my president with no reply. >> while you're in north korea? >> yes, about one month ago.

for this reason i am disappointed in my government. however, i want to believe that my government or someone is trying their best to help me, and i would be very glad to meet the person that saves me. >> what's the bottom line about your situation here and your message that you want to put out? >> that my situation is very urgent. that very soon i'm going to trial and i will directly be sent to prison. i think this interview is my final chance to push the american government into helping me. >> reporter: i also asked miller why he sought asylum in north korea in the first place. he told me that's a question he did not want to answer. he's awaiting trial in about a month. another detained american awaiting trial very soon is matthew miller. this is a man from dayton, ohio, a father of elementary schoolchildren. he was arrested on his

daughter's birthday. he admitted what he did was left a bible in a siemens club while he was on a train tour of the dprk. he says he now realizes that that was considered a covert act. he signed a confession admitting his guilt and desperately wants to return to his family. here is what he told us. >> reporter: how are you being treated well? >> fairly well. the food has been good. a daily walk. even medical care has been furnished a couple of times. i have a hotel suite type of room. i hope and pray it continues whether i'm here two more days or two more decades. >> your message to your family? >> i'll come home as soon as i can. my family is the big fest thing on my wife. i have my wife and three elementary age school kids that

depend on me. there my mother-in-law says with me, too. six of us in our household. while i'm gone, my wife is trying to operate the household by herself. a chore to do with two people, let alone one. she depends on my salary, my wife has a smart part-time job as a hair stylist, she doesn't bring in that much money. money is going to be tight. if this goes beyond september, i'm in grave danger of losing my job, that's when my vacation been fits run out. my kids might be out on the street. in three more days my oldest is going to have a birthday. i missed my middle kid's birthday in june. the day i found out i was in this deep trouble, it was my daughter's birthdays. i've missed a lot of birthdays since the 7th of may. i appreciate what you're doing. i also want to express my

gratitude to the governments involved. >> reporter: your message about your conditions and situation? >> i'm good for the time being, but i need to let people know that i'm getting desperate, i'm getting desperate for help. i understand that there are three americans in detention here now in dprk which i think is the most since the pueblo incident. >> you have no communication with the others? >> no. i know kenneth bae has been here for the longest. i'm sure he's desperate to get back. this is an opportunity for maybe bill clinton to come back. he release add couple journalist as few years back. maybe george bush, maybe his turn as an elder statesman to come back. i appreciate any help they can lend helping resoul our cases and bring us home. >> mr. fowle. >> jeffrey fowle from dayton, ohio, no contact with the other detained americans, matthew

miller and kenneth bae. all men appeared to be in good health. kenneth bae has been in and out of the hospital with a number of different health conditions. he says the work at the labor camp has only made his health deteriorate. all these men are desperate for intervention from united states government so they can leave north korea and come home. >> jeffrey fowle and matthew miller has been there for several months, kenneth bae for three years. why do you think they pulled you aside today to grant these interviews? >> reporter: we were in the middle of a government-approved tour and were whisked over to an area, and just before we entered the building we were told, in fact, we would be speaking with the detained americans. we put in a request when we arrived here in pyongyang five days ago. this is an indication, the fact that the north korean government

has granted these interviews to cnn and is making these men available to pass along a message, not only to their families but the u.s. government, it may be a sign that north korea is hoping -- in fact, not a sign. we know from talking to officials north korea is hoping to open up a line of xhugs case with the united states. united states sanctions hurt the economy here very much, so this country is very keen to have a dialogue with the united states. these three men may be an opportunity to bring a diplomat over here for the north korean government and open up a channel of discussion. we'll have to see what unfolds from here. >> absolutely. will, we know you're in pyongyang right now and so north korean officials are watching everything you're doing and every word that you're saying. but the interviews seemed somewhat peculiar, particularly the one with matthew miller, the 24-year-old. he seemed sort of cryptic and

scripted. was he following a script? >> reporter: some of the men had prepared notes in front of them, although kenneth bae did not. jeffrey fowle certainly did. they knew as did we that time was limited and there would only be certain topics we would be able to discuss. miller was interesting. he didn't use the allotted five minutes. when i asked him if he had anything else he wanted to say, he said that was it. he didn't want to talk about what he did that caused his arrest, a recent phone conversation with his family. what he wanted to say is he feels at this point that the american government has not done anything to help his situation here. then i asked, but you tried to leave america when you came here allegedly sooking asylum. he said he didn't want to talk about that. jeffrey fowle says he didn't mean to do what he did, he now realizes it was a serious violation of the law. also what kenneth bae told me as

well, initially he didn't agree with the charges that he was essentially part of a plot, a christian plot to over throw the regime here. he came in as a missionary. now, however, he says he feels he is guilty of the charges and all three men are hoping for forgiveness and some sort of arrangement to allow them to return to the united states. >> all three of them, we heard they are making a personal appeal to the u.s. government for more help. they say there's been no movement, a quote from matthew miller, no movement from the u.s. and you heard jeffrey fowle say this might be an opportunity for bill clinton or someone of that high echelon to come to north korea to help out. do you think there's any movement on the u.s. side in terms of getting these guys out? >> reporter: that's going to be a question we will have to pose to the u.s. government officials after they watch this interview. you saw most of the raw interview just now. we played it relatively unedited

so you could hear how the conversation went down. again, we were under very strict guidelines. none of these men had communication with each other. they were all kept in separate rooms in a darkly lit hotel in central pyongyang. as soon as the interview was over, we were put in a van and taken back to our hotel here which is where i'm standing. what will happen here is the united states government will hear this message, the message these men so desperately wanted to convey and we'll have to see what their response is. the message we're getting from the north korean government officials who granted this interview today is they allowed these men to speak, and it clearly is a sign that they may be willing at this point to open up some channel of communication where really for now communication has been done through swedish embassy. there's been some interaction between jeffrey fowle's wife and vladimir putin. she wrote him a letter because she has dual citizenship.

he wrote her back. >> will ripley, great work over there in pyongyang. what a fascinating insight, your interview into talking with those three men. we'll check back in with you throughout the show. >> absolutely fascinating. i think the key phrase from kenneth bae was send somebody. we heard that message from all three men. that was the message that north korea wanted them to send, seems like they're begging for a high profile envoy to come and negotiate, a propaganda coup for north korea. >> jeffery fowle spelled it out, he said he thinks it would be an opportunity for bill clinton to come back and negotiate. >> will ripley didn't know he was getting this interview, cnn didn't know he was getting this interview, the united states clearly did not know that will ripley would be speaking to these three prisoners. the question now is what will the u.s. response be? what will the white house say and do when they wake up to this

this morning. our michelle kosinski live with more. good morning, michelle. >> reporter: good morning. it is clear that north korea is sending a message via these interviews to the u.s. saying let's engage at a high level. two of these detainees, we heard from them on camera about a month ago. it was this on-the-fly interview and the details of how it came about weren't even clear. that was released, two of them on video saying essentially the same things, but much, much briefer, less detail given by the detainees themselves than this will ripley interview. north korea wants to get this message out to the world and to the u.s. specifically. when you heard some of the things that the detainees said, i feel like this is my last chance to urge the u.s. government to help me, i need help now, tell my family pray for me and i need help from the u.s., those are the kinds of

things -- many might call that propaganda that we heard when it's under this controlled situation by north koreans in the past. we can only judge in terms of what we've seen. in 2009 two female journalists arrested, one the sister of american journalist lisa ling. laura ling was detained i think about a month or so. it took bill clinton going there, meeting with officials before they were released. clearly the u.s. administration doesn't want to send someone there and engage in that way, sort of at the beck and call of the north koreans. it's possible through channels like that there could be some movement. in the past the u.s. has said they've used all diplomatic channels to try to secure these people's release, that they've been in regular contact with their families, tried numerous times to send a u.s. envoy who is focused on north korean human rights, but with no success. again, we're going to have see

what the u.s. reaction to this is and what happens now. >> fascinating how they walk that line. michelle kosinski at the white house, thanks so much. this is one more dish on the crisis menu facing the united states right now. we want to get to the latest developments out of iraq this morning. u.s. air strikes helping iraqi troops on the ground end a two-month isis siege of amirli. thousands of shiites have been facing a massacre by the terrorists there. the conflict suddenly have long-time rivals battling on the same side, if not quite coordinating the efforts. we'll get right to barbara starr at the pentagon. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, john. as you say, the united states and iran somewhat on the same side, but not exactly together. this morning 120 total u.s. air strikes across iraq now proving effective, following the strikes

around the town of amerli over the weekend, joint iraqi forces, some backed by iran, broke isis' more than two-month siege. amerli is home to those facing an imminent massacre by isis. it was the iraqly military with the help of some shiite militia, some who once fought american soldiers that led to the ground offensive. this would be the first time u.s. forces and iran-backed militias have worked together against the brutal extremisextr. the obama administration says there's no direct coordination with the militias. >> we got into iraq because we had humanitarian issues we had to deal with and because we have to -- we have to stop isis. it's a very dangerous group of people. >> reporter: the u.s. also made

a humanitarian air drop in amerli. according to the u.n. residents have been without power and face severe food and water shortages, this as u.s. military forces continue conducting strikes throughout northern iraq, mostly supporting efforts around iraq's largest dam, critical infrastructure once under isis control. several hundred marines on station in the persian gulf are going to be kept there an extra three weeks until their replacements arrive. just one indication of how much the u.s. wants to keep everything it has there in place given the base of activity now. john? >> interesting, extending the deployment a little bit. barbara starr at the pentagon, thank you so much. meanwhile, state department officials say the u.s. embassy in tripoli remains secure, this despite a video posted online showing libyan militiamen partying at the pool at the

evacuated embassy. american personnel left about a month earlier because of the threat of violence. is the space being safeguarded or is another american compound in libya in jeopardy. cnn's nic robertson is in london with more details. what do we know, nic? >> reporter: a spokesman says no, this is not an attack, the embassy is not being ransacked. what you're seeing is an islamist militia has moved in and taken control over the international airport in tripoli, have taken control of areas in tripoli. you see them diving from the second floor balcony into the swimming pool. there are photographs around what ambassador deborah jones describes as embassy annex buildings, photographs of a living room, of a bedroom, a gymnasium. none of them appear sort of very badly ransacked. books are moved, papers on the

floor, a few windows are broken. but this raises a very significant question of who really is in control of that compound now? according to the militia themselves, they say they're safeguarding it, taking care of it. but clearly there's a limit to their control over that building. there's a lot of exuberance you see in that video there, people diving into the swimming pool. i talked to people familiar with that complex itself. the ambassador says the chancery and main part of the embassy are untouched and not ransacked. there are others who have seen the video who raise questions about how much of the embassy have fallen into the hands of this islamist militia. >> it's a little hard to believe it's not in the hands of the militia when you see that video. nic robertson, thank you so much. let's go over to the headlines, what we need to know.

>> good morning to all of you. we start with chaos on the streets of is bam bad. protesters there clashing with police and closing in on prime minister sharif's official residence demanding he step down. police used teargas and rubber bullets in an effort to keep the protesters away. the military is calling for calm without the use of force and urging rivals to resolve differences peacefully. al leej anti air flight 683 experienced problem with cabin pressure about two hours after takeoff. that flight has been scheduled to continue to orlando later this morning. no reported injuries among the 153 passengers and six crew members on board that flight. a spokeswoman for jennifer lawrence says nude photos of her leaked online are, quote, a flagrant violation of privacy and vows to prosecute whoever is

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moscow calls for talks between the ukrainian government and pro-russian rebels. meanwhile two crew members are missing and seven injured after a ukrainian patrol boat was attacked sunday off the coast of mayor poll. reza has more on the escalating conflict. >> reporter: over the last several days ukrainian forces one loss after another, one of the latest coming off the coast of southeastern ukraine where a ukrainian patrol boat came under fire, was shot and sunk. also been the past hour, a senior government official here in kiev confirming that ukrainian forces have been killed to retreat from a critical airfield in southeastern ukraine after that airfield came under fire from rebels backed by russian tanks. all of this part of mounting evidence that webls in this

conflict are fast gaining momentum in southeastern ukraine fresh remnants of a battle where pro-russian rebels routed ukrainian forces to take back control of the town of ill bask. for ukrainian patrols, it was swift, leaving behind a wreckage of war and another town in shambles. the rebel takeover is the latest triumph in a counter offensive that scene pro-russian separatists regain the upper hand and ukrainian soldiers encircled or on the run. two weeks ago it was ukrainian forces dominating the fight, pushing east, taking rebel strongholds. kiev and western capitals say the onslaught is backed by russian troops, tanks and heavy weaponry, an accusation moscow denies. for the rebels, the next target could be mayor opal, a strategic port city that would give a

critical land link to crimea. >> russian has come, invaded with thousands of troops, missiles, tanks. this is no longer the question of some rebel separatists. this is a direct invasion by russia. we must recognize it. >> on sunday ukrainian forces raced to bolster defense lines. east of mayor ol'al, the residents lay in wait, seemingly poised for an attack. the european union on sunday issued moscow an ultimatum, call off the separatists or suffer tougher sanctions. washington, too, threatening more sanctions. russian president vladimir putin responded by calling for talks on the statehood. his spokesman said moscow denies independence for rebel-held territories. putin's comments raises the stakes on a conflict that's rapidly intensifying.

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i've been asking the government to act upon getting me released here. i do believe that a special envoy needs to come in order to resolve the situation i'm in right now. >> welcome back to "new day." that was kenneth bae, an american detaped by north korea along with matthew miller and jeffrey fowle. all three spoke to cnn in a remarkable series of exclusive interviews expressing concern, asking for prayers, talking about their families burks most importantly asking for help,

asking the united states to step in and do something. so what is now in store for these three? can the u.s. bring them home. i'm joined by peter bin nert, contributing editor for "atlantic media." all the way from california, ron brownstein, editorial director of the "national journal." i want to start with you. these interviews are remarkable. they have the subtle tea of a sledgehammer. all three men seemingly reading from the same type of script saying we want the united states to send somebody to talk to north korea to get us released. why would north korea send that message? >> it's possible north korea wants something. if you have a high diplomatic envoy to north korea, they may have a set of demands of its own. we've seen this behavior from north korea in the past especially when it feels ignored at the time of other

international crises. the north is a country in desperate need of aid from the west. perhaps they feel they can leverage these traj ix situations as a bargaining chip. >> it's better than shooting missiles at someone. ron brownstein, i said this has thest subtle tea of a sledgehammer. i want to play you a little bit of this. one of the prisoners, jeffrey fowle essentially asked for bill clinton to come. let's play that. >> this is an opportunity for maybe bill clinton to come back and he's released a couple of journalists years back. maybe george bush, his turn as an elder statesmen to try his hand at that. >> as he mentioned, bill clinton in 2009 helped secure the release of journalist laura ling. if you're sitting in the white house this morning, ron, what do you make of this? what do you make of this overture? >> i think, as peter said, it's very transparent. as you said, it really is

explicitly calling for a repeat of the kind of envoy, high-level on joy with bill clinton, before that bill richardson, i believe jimmy carter as i recall has been enlisted in this in the past. what's perplexing about this is in the past, even the bill clinton trip, did not lead to a sustained change of the trajectory of the relationship. when kim jong-un came into power in 2012, it looked like an opportunity for an opening. things are once again in a downward spiral with the concern about the ballistic missile testing out of north korea. it's unclear where even if you got the high-level envoy they are clearly seeking in this, what their ultimate goal would be once that person arrived. >> peter, this just adds to the long list of foreign policy crises right now facing this white house. my goodness, you have iraq, syria, the combination of iraq and syria. you have ukraine, you have libya right now.

democracy issues in china going on. now you have north korea saying, send someone and negotiate. where do you put that in the hierarchy? >> this is always the problem for the admission. you only have a certain band width to deal with crisis. as terrible as the situation is, it's going to be hard for it to compete inside the white house with what's happening in ukraine which is now a russian invasion, really something pretty remarkable and america contemplating war with isis in iraq, contemplating bring that to syria, trying to bring together an international coalition. those are two of the largest foreign policy crises the obama administration has dealt with since it came into office. i think there are certain people people paying attention, it's going to be hard for this to be job one. >> ron, that specific plea for bill clinton to come. obviously there's an interesting relationship between president obama, president clinton, not to mention former secretary of state hillary clinton.

you think that would be complicated? >> i think it would be complicated. it's hard to imagine bill clinton going again. but again, this is clearly a request for someone of that stature. i want to underscore the point that peter made about the multiple challenges erupting all over the world n. many ways, it feels like the controlling force in foreign policy in the early years of the -- really throughout the obama presidency has been this post iraq, afghanistan disillusionment by the public with american intervention abroad. you look at what's happening in ukraine and in the middle east. you look at if we're in an inflection point where the dominant force from here out may be the growing impatience among foreign policy elites, the feeling that obama has overcorrected from the mistakes of president bush and just as president bush may have been too quick to move to action, there's a growing sense among the elites that this president is too prone

toward inaction. i feel like we're hitting a point where we're at a tipping point where that might be a greater force in shaping the political dialogue than the public disillusionment which hasn't gone away but super seeded by the urgency of this crisis. >> peter, i read a great analysis from you calling president obama a fierce minimalist, a fierce minimalist on foreign policy. so apply that to north korea? does that mean you do negotiate or maybe say i'm not going to get involved in this right now? >> the point i was making is i think president obama has been very reluctant to use military force when he does not think american lives are at risk, but has been willing to use them when he feels like he's attacking people who could be responsible for another 9/11. this is not military intervention, this is diplomatic engagement. the thing you have to think about when dealing with north korea is, goodness knows you want to get these people out. but you also want to have

someone, some kind of distant. because the north koreans are very unpredictable. you don't know what they'll do when you send those people over. you don't want to be in a situation where you appear to be trading things for hostages in which case you'll get more hostages. who can you find who can negotiate with stature but you have distance from as well. >> it almost complicates things as well because they asked for it publicly because when you do respond, you're giving them what they want. gentlemen, great to have you here. appreciate it. next up on "new day," michael sam's hopes of making nfl history derailed for now. the defensive end fails to secure a final roster spot for the st. louis rams, so what is next for him? stay with us. kid number three. (vo) the co-pilots. all sitting... ...trusting... ...waiting... ...for a safe arrival. introducing the all-new subaru legacy. designed to help the driver in you...

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♪ 47 minutes past the hour. iraqi forces celebrating a victory against isis terrorists, breaking the group's stranglehold on amberly. they got help from u.s. delivering targeted air strikes. all of this as british prime minister david cameron prepares to address parliament where he is expected to announce strong new anti-terrorism measures. russia's foreign minister says there is no russian incursion into eastern ukraine. this russian denial comes as vladimir putin calls for statehood talks for southeastern

ukraine. meanwhile, a ukrainian patrol boat was attacked sunday off the coast of mariupol. a federal judge is temporarily blocked enforcement of a strict new abortion law in louisiana. a lawsuit challenges the new requirement that abortion clinic doctors have admitting privileges at local hospitals. the suit claims doctors did not have enough time to arrange admitting privileges before the law goes into effect today. the judge's ruling prevents authorities from penalizing doctors while the case is being heard. the national corvette museum announces it will fill in that tinning hole. remember this? devouring eight beautiful cars in february of this year. the kentucky museum is working with chevrolet to restore three of the damaged cars. however, the other five were damaged beyond repair when they fell into that sing hole. they will stay on display.

the sinkhole was a mixed blessing, it actually brought a 70% boost in in visitors. >> unreported benefits of sinkholes. they get a bad rap. >> we saw that happen and it was unbelievable. my first car was a vette. >> no way! >> a chevette. is there a difference? >> not at all. straight to meteorologist jennifer grey foiling in for indra petersons. happy holiday to you. >> you as well. a little rain and possible storms across the midwest as we go through the afternoon hours. today it includes places like chicago. right now we're seeing the rain pushing towards st. louis. if you're getting out and about early this morning, you may run into a couple of those showers. the damaging winds, large hail are your main threat this

afternoon. isolated tornado, slight risk of a spin-up or two. chicago that includes you, indianapolis, detroit, st. louis, even springfield. as we time this out, we're going to see showers around the afternoon hours in chicago most likely. this will all pull to the east. we are going to see rain fire up around the mississippi river valley tomorrow. we should have a quiet east coast for much of tomorrow and more rain pushing in as we get into the late evening hours, the overnight hours. the ridge of high pressure is going to stay in place. we have very hot conditions across much of the southeast. we are going to keep temperatures well above normal. 92 in atlanta today. new york at 88 today. tomorrow in the low 90s. you will be about 12 degrees above normal. so feeling the heat all the way up into the northeast, guys. >> that is steamy. jennifer, thanks so much. if i had a nickle for every time i heard that. go ahead. next, michael sam will have

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(blowing) ♪ let's talk football. is michael sam's nfl career open before the single snap? the first openly gay player drafted by the nfl was among the final cuts by the st. louis rams. it cleared waivers that makes

him free to sign with any nfl team. are there any take sners what is in the future for michael sam? here to discuss, sean gregory got up early on this labor day to labor with us. one of the possibilities was that sam would sign with the practice squad for the rams. you say this morning, we just found out that's not going to happen. >> a report on nfl.com that the rams aren't going to sign him. the reason being, that the rams have a lot of depth at defensive line. that's a big thing for them. not a total shock that he's not on the rams. one problem with michael with the practice squad could be he's a tweener, a little small. no guy on the practice squad is going to be as good as the all pro defensive tackle, but you want the body type to kind of be the same. that's something that might complicate matters for him. >> so talk about overall how well he did, why was he cut?

was it because of this tween f you will, his size and effectiveness on the field? >> i think so. i think as far as him being the first gay player in the nfl and a quote, unquote, distraction. i feel that didn't really happen in st. louis. everything kind of went smoothly. a few hickups with the e sfrmtspn report that was cited a few times. i think this has been a pretty positive experience. if anyone is thinking of following in michael sam's footsteps, he blazed a little trail here. >> for people who don't know, what was the unfortunate espn report. >> the report talked about michael sam's showering habits saying an unnamed player told espn reporter that michael sam wasn't relating -- he was kind of nervous taking a shower, which another nfl player tweeted i think last night or early this morning that that was the reason -- he thought that was the reason nfl teams are shying away, basically blaming espn.

i don't know if it got to that level. i think if a team in the nfl thinks that michael sam can help them, i don't see why they'd shy away. >> i think people widely condemn that. espn essentially apologized for it after. i get the sense, even though michael sam did not make the rams at this point, as we wake up this monday morning, i think the nfl and all these teams and even michael sam, they feel pretty good about the way this went down because this all happened for football reasons. >> exactly. and i think that's a huge takeaway for this. michael sam was very positive coming out of the bad news. he didn't blame anybody, was thankful for the opportunity. i don't think he's going to go anywhere. i think we'll hear from him. if nothing happens early, maybe he goes to canada. if he can play, i think now we're at a time in our society where a guy like michael sam will be accepted. >> if he can play, if he can help a team, there will be a team that signs him. his problem, this goes back to

the combines, that's when the college players get together and do these tests, he had an awful combine. >> he did. in the preseason he was playing against backups. the rams saw him every day, saw what he could do. they were an odd team to draft him in a way because they were so deep in the defensive position. everybody was very positive on him. i think it's a pretty great story. michael sam played a whole season in college, he came out to his teammates. we've seen that a football team will survive with a gay player. >> you think it's a nmoot point in the nfl? >> are there teams saying i don't want to deal with the crazy espn reports? possibly. overall, it's hard to say he'll definitely be on an nfl team, but i think hess he's going to be around. >> sean gregory, thanks for coming in.

following this and a lot of other stories, a lot of news. let's get right to it. >> i've been asking the american government to act getting my release here. >> i deliberately committed my crime. >> time is getting urgent. >> president obama is taking harsh criticism from both sides of the aisle. >> i've learned one thing about this president and that is he's very cautious, too cautious. >> the president of the united states is either in denial or overwhelmed. kiev and western capitals say the rebel onslaught is backed by russian troops, tanks and heavy weaponry. >> this is a direct invasion by russia. good morning. welcome back to "new day," i'm alisyn camerota. >> i'm john berman. we're in for chris and kate this morning. we begin with a cnn exclusive. three americans are being held captive in north korea. cnn's will ripley got a rather and exclusive interview with all

three in pyongyang including kenneth bae. here is the missionary detained in 2012. >> how are the three men doing this morning? do they have hope the united states may work to secure their freedom. kenneth bae has been held and subjected to hard labor for nearly two years. >> cute me about your conditions? >> i'm serving a 15-year sentence right now. i've been going back and forth from hospital to the labor camp for the last year and a half. right now i'm serving at the labor camp right now. >> can you tell me about the conditions at the labor camp? >> condition in labor camp is i'm working eight hours a day, six days a week and working agricultural work to other hard labor that is required to do every day. >> can you tell me what you did? did you know at that time that you were breaking the law here in north korea?

>> i had suspicions, but i did not quite agree with the charges until i got here. after being trial for that period of time did i realize that what i had done has offended, and has violated their law. at the time i wasn't quite sure it was quite serious as they're charging me now. >> and two other americans are also being held, matthew miller and jeffrey fowle. we'll hear next from matthew miller who is facing trial that could get him locked up for years. >> first of all, can you tell me about the charges you're facing in north korea? >> i will not find out until i go to trial, but i will say that i prepared to violate the law of the dprk before coming here and i deliberately committed my crime. >> tell me about your conditions here, how you're being treated?

>> i'm with good health, i've received medical checks and provided with humanitarian treatment. >> and what is your message to your family? >> first, i'll just say my message to my government. i've been requesting help for a long time and there has been no movement from my government. the american government is known for having a strong policy of protecting its citizens. yet for my case there is still no movement. >> what's the bottom line about your situation here and your message that you want to put out? >> that my situation is very urgent, that very soon i'm going to trial and i will directly be sent to prison. i think this interview is my final chance to push the american government into helping me. >> that was jeffrey miller. jeffrey fowle is suspected of

leaving a bible behind in one of his hotels or a club. he has been accused of spreading a religious message against the north but says he did nothing deliberate of the source. >> how are you being treated here? >> reasonably well. food has been good, daily walk with the guys. even medical care has been furnished a couple of times. quarters are good, hotel suite type of room. i don't have any complaint about the treatment. very good so far. i hope and pray it continues whether i'm here two more days or two more decades. >> your message to your family? >> the message is i'll come home as soon as i can. my family is the biggest thing on my mind right now. i have a wife and three young school kids who depend on me for support. >> the bottom line, your message about your conditions and situation. >> i'm good for the time being. i need to let people know i'm getting desperate. i'm getting desperate for help.

i understand there are three americans in detention now here in the dprk which is the most since the pueblo incident. >> you have no communication with the other? >> i know the name of the third guy, kenneth bae has been here the longest. i'm sure he's desperate to get back. this is an opportunity for maybe bill clinton to come back. he helped with the release of a couple journalists. maybe george bush, his turn as an elder statesman, i'd appreciate any help they can lend to helping resolve our cases and bring us home. >> we spoke to cnn's will ripley live from pyongyang earlier this morning. this is what he had to say about the circumstances behind these interviews. >> reporter: we were in a the middle of a government-approved tour and we were whisked to an area where we weren't told where we were going or who we would be talking to. just before we entered the building we were told we would be speaking with the detained

americans. we put in a request when we arrived in pyongyang five days ago. this is an indication, the fact that the north korean government has granted these interviews to cnn, making these men available to pass along a message, not only to their families but to the u.s. government. it may be a sign that north korea is hoping -- in fact, it's not a sign. we know from talking to officials in north korea, hoping to open up a line of communication with the united states. they have an important relationship with china that has seen tension as of late. obviously united states sanctions hurt the economy very much. this country is very keen to have a dialogue with the united states. these three men may be an opportunity to bring a diplomat over here for the north korean government and open up a channel of discussion. we'll have to see what unfolds from here. >> we'll have much more on will ripley's exclusive later in the program. now to ukraine where fighting rages on this morning. ukrainian forces pulling back from fighting at the airport in

luhansk. two crew members are missing after a navy boat was sunk. all this after russia claims it has no troops in ukraine, despite satellite photos appearing to show troops crossing the border. is it time for the u.s. to join ukrainians. one senator is senate foreign relations chairman robert menendez who is in ukraine this morning. good morning, senator, thanks for being here. >> good morning, alisyn, good to be with you. >> you're in kiev. what's your assessment of what's going on on the ground? >> well, this is a watershed moment. thousands of russian troops with tanks, heavy artillery, surface-to-surface missiles and a whole host of other arguments have crossed into ukraine. this is no longer about rebels fighting with russian assistance. this is clearly an invasion of

ukraine, and it seems to me that we have seen the international order upended by russia. we need to send a very clear message that you cannot invade a country, take territory by force as a new international norm. that's why i hope -- >> what exactly are you recommending that the u.s. do? >> well, that's why i hope that at this upcoming nato summit that, number one is that we will have, while working with the european union, the widest, deepest set of sanctions possible against russia beyond what we've done in the financial, economic and/or defense areas that will cost a heavy consequence to the russian economy. secondly, i believe we need to send defensive weapons to the ukrainians for them to be able

to fight for their own freedom. and if we do that, that will i believe possibly change the calculation of putin who has driven the decisions that have taken place here to date. >> let me play for you what president obama has said about sanctions. >> i think that the sanctions that we've already applied have been effective. our intelligence shows the russians know they have been effective, even though it may not appear on russian television. i think there are ways for us to deepen or expand the scope of some of that work. >> so he says the sanction haves already been effective, that he believes that russia knows that they're effective, and that we could broaden the scope. do you think they've already been effective? >> i think what the president is saying, to the extent we have

levied sanctions against individuals and companies, that the effect of those sanctions is beginning to take place and, yes, we are moving forward in a multilateral context to be effective. now the question is the second part of what he said, that broadening those sanctions so that there is deeper pain, more economic consequence to putin as part of his calculation for the aggression he has exhibited here in ukraine which is a war against europe, fought on ukrainian soil, has to be more significant. we have to have a heavy price for russia to pay in order to deter any further actions that they are taking here in eastern ukraine. >> do you think the president will go along with your suggestion to arm the ukrainians? >> i think that's on the table by advisers to the president. i think it's part of his thinking process about what more do we do.

as i travel through eastern europe, estonia, poland and these baltic countries, there is a real concern that if this fight in ukraine doesn't turn out the right way, there are consequences far beyond. there are also consequences far beyond for us in terms of trying to establish the international order, whether china in the south china sea, north korea and its ambitions. rye rainians negotiating trying to stop the nuclear program. they will look at the wet and say how far will the west go? if they think we won't provide the sanctions and provide the weapons necessary for the ukrainians to defend themselves, they'll calculate accordingly. this is a moment where weakness invites more provocation from putin where strength can avoid further provocation. >> not surprisingly, senator, the russian foreign minister sees things where you do.

he says, quote, washington and brussels needs to ask kiev authorities to shop shelling, the houses, schools, hospitals and so on because you leave militia with no choice but to stand up and protect their people. he's saying some of these border towns are under attack by kiev and are just defending themselves. what's your response? >> it's pretty outrageous. truth is not an obstacle to russian propaganda. the reality is that russians deny they went into crimea. then they annexed crimea. russians denied they were giving assistance to the rebels and they gave them some of the most sophisticated weaponry that ultimately brought down the malaysian airline flight and killed hundreds of people and then denied their assistance to the separatists. now they deny they even have troops inside of ukraine when they have thousands of troops, tanks, armored vehicles,

surface-to-surface missiles, where there's some video indications that the ukrainian ship that was sunk may well have been sunk by a russian flight. look, i just found it outrageous. the only reason that the ukrainian government fought is because the russians were in the midst of arming separatists against the ukrainian state. they would not accept that in russia. neither would anyone else. >> senator bob menendez, please let us know what comes from the meetings today. we appreciate seeing you this morning. >> will do. thank you. let's go over to michaela for the top headlines. >> alisyn, thanks so much. in ferguson, missouri, demonstrators plan to stop traffic on a major interstate in a show of civil disobedience following the michael brown shooters. organizers are urging protesters to drive on the interstate at 4:30 this afternoon and stop their car for four and a half

minutes. they say it will symbolize the four hours michael brown's body lay in the middle of the street. a small plane crash in denver killed all on board. it crashed in field as it approached erie municipal airport for landing. three passengers were declared dead at the scene. the remaining two died after being taken to local hospitals. the ntsb is investigating the cause of that crash. police in utah had a tough search for a stolen ring. brian ford and christina schlegel were arrested after a high-speed chase. police say ford stole the ring from the sales jewelry store. that's an x-ray of schlegel's stop mack. police said sunday they're waiting still to recover it. you can put that altogether. >> that's a good trick. no ring on me. >> not so much. >> not so much. >> so much for your life of

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british prime minister david cameron set to speak before the british parliament today, exp t expected to outline new an tir terror measures, this after

raising brit's threat level following the surge of activity by isis. his response appears to be vastly different from that of the obama administration. last week the president said he had no defined strategy yet for dealing with isis in syria. so why the stark contrast in the response is between the president and the prime minister. here to break this down, tom fuentes, former fbi assistant director and patrick skinner, former cia case officer and director of special projects for the suffin group. tom, i want to start with you here. i want you to explain to people what are the specific environmental threats facing britain right now. how does britain see things differently than the united states, tom? >> john, they see it differently because it is different for them. united states has maybe 100 people or slightly more that have traveled to join isis and syria in iraq and some of them have thankfully, i guess you

could almost say, made that a one-way trip. so that reduces the fact that they're going to come back here and attack us at home. but for britain, they have more than 500 of their citizens that they know of that have traveled there. they don't have the resources that we have. in the past when i worked with them, they said they'd be lucky if they had enough resources to cover 20 or 30 small groups of terrorists. we saw an example of that in july of 2005 when they had looked at the group and didn't have the ability to keep them covered that carried out the bombings in london in the subway train and buses. they face a greater threat with fewer resources. i think for them that is a reason for caution. >> patrick, you agree their problem is not our problem just because britain is raising the threat level. do you think there's a reason the united states should be, too? >> i think you have to have something more specific in regards to america to raise it.

if we raised it because there are people that want to do something bad to us, we would always be at high alert. i agree, britain has a significant problem, much, much worse than ours. it's kind of a testament of how inclusive our society is. 350 million people and we have 100 people maybe, maybe more that go and maybe a couple dozen go to isis. britain has a much more significant radical problem. >> tom, the words were alarming from the british prime minister on friday. he said we're facing now in iraq with isil is a greater and deeper threat to our security than we have known before. we know britain has faced a lot of threats before. he says this is the greatest threat they're facing. do you think that was hype? >> well, the problem he has is very political in the aftermath of the iraq war. when it turned out that iraq did not have nuclear weapons and

chemical, biological weapons, tony blair was publicly vilified in great britain. the parliament was absolutely adamant that he had been a puppet of george w. bush and they shouldn't have lost the people they lost in the iraq war and that they were forced into it politically by the u.s. so for now, they've taken a stand back of being reluctant to get involved in these situations. a good example was a year ago when they refused, the parliament for the first time refused to back our request to assist in air strikes in syria. they said we're not going to do it. so for the brits, they have to try to convince their people and it's going to be harder to convince them in the aftermath of what happened in iraq the first time around. >> there's a key distinction here. what britain is doing now is a homeland security issue for great britain. it is not foreign policy, per se, because they are not taking any extended action against isis

inside iraq or syria. patrick, there is a debate here in the united states about what the u.s. policy should be inside iraq, and specifically syria. this weekend, a democratic senator, dianne feinstein, she had criticism for the president, the leader of her own party, president obamament let's listen to what she said. >> i think i've learned one thing about this president and that is he's very cautious. maybe in this instance too cautious. >> too cautious. what do you make of that? do you agree? if so, what makes him too cautious? >> right now it's a matter of optics or pr. he appears to be too cautious. there's a segment of the population that thinks we should do something right now. most people agree we have to do something. do we have to do something immediately right now in syria? that's an open question. the administration made a decision which i believe is the correct one in iraq, to work with small local, specialized

units in iraq to stem the tide. that was pretty effective. in the last 30 days we've actually stopped their advances, pushed them back off the mosul dam. syria makes iraq look like switzerland. i understand caution. will there be a need to go do air strikes in syria? probably, because that's where isis is or isil's main strength s. there is not an existential threat that they're going to come out of syria right now. you probably wait to do the right thing. >> tom, how do you find that inflection point between caution and policy paralysis? >> well, i think it would be when the threat is more imminent than it is now. i think that word has been so overused for more than the past 12 years that threat is imminent. well, eminent used to mean that you're just about to be hit. it didn't mean that some day they might do this, might do

that, they might attack. that's been the problem, is that there are many public figures in this country that have cried wolf for a long time. now we might actually have a wolf and nobody wants to listen. we've heard this before. they don't buy it. you have a very suspicious public in great britain, in the united states, that are suspicious of cries for more war. >> tom fuentes, patrick skinner, very, very interesting discussion this morning. gentlemen, i appreciate your help. three americans held captive speak from north korea. this is a cnn exclusive. we'll break down the interviews plus get an analysis of what the united states will now do to bring these men home. an experimental drug so promising that some say it could be a game-changer. we'll speak to a cardiologist about what all this buzz is about. for up to three years... and be covered? it means your odometer...

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my situation is very urgent. this interview is my final chance to push the american government into helping me. >> that is american matthew miller speaking exclusively to cnn this morning. he, kenneth bae and jeffrey fowle spoke out in a rare interview with cnn about their current conditions. can the u.s. bring these americans home. peter beinart is a cnn contributor along with white

house correspondent michelle kosinski. you heard him say he thinks this is the last chance, begging the u.s. to intervene? what is the u.s. doing to bring these americans home? >> on the one hand, the administration clearly has responsibility for any american in distress. on the other hand, you don't want the north koreans to believe that by taking hostages, essentially they can gain concessions to the united states. it's a balancing act to see what you can do, that you're giving the north koreans something for taking him. >> michelle, it seems as though the north koreans are interested in having a high level u.s. envoy go to north korea to negotiate. how do you think they'll respond? >> they won't do north korea's bidding without north korea playing by western rules to some extent. it's interesting to compare this to what we've seen in the past. just a month ago we heard from

two of these detainees in north korea. they did a short interview with ap television, but it wasn't really shown in its entirety. it was these two sort of snippets, didn't get a whole lot of play. i personally don't even remember seeing this. then it was as if north korea didn't get enough attention from that. now they offer cnn this five-minute-each, sit-down interview tightly controlled obviously, but interviews with the detainees. it's clear they want to send this greater message now. it seems like from what the detainees were saying, that message is right there. one of them saying, i'm getting desperate. another one saying i need more help from my government. hey, how about sending bill clinton? when you go back a couple years, remember in 2009 there were two american journalists who were detained. they crossed the border and crossed back onto the chinese side, were still picked up by north korean guards. one was laura ling, the sister of american journalist lisa

ling. her family said later that laura told them that she was told the only way they would get released is if the u.s. sent bill clinton or some high-level envoy over there. through working with the families, bill clinton did go over and the families said he later told them when he got there, the north koreans wanted him to go on this big sight seeing junket, to go to monuments and there was this stadium full of child acrobats set to perform for him. he declined. they wanted this to be a humanitarian mission, nothing diplomatic or nothing that would seem to be too chummy or playing by the north korean's rules. >> kenneth bae is the most well known american being held. he spoke to our will ripley, also. he said he's in a labor camp, works eight hours a day, six days a week. he said he's being treated humanely. let's listen to the appeal he made to the u.s. government. >> i do ask the u.s. government

to send an envoy as soon as possible. i think that's the only hope i have right now for me to go home and see my family. i believe the sooner that this get resolve, it would be better for not only myself, but for the rest of the other americans that may come here in the future as well. >> this is a real pickle, peter, for the administration. when you hear americans making a personal appeal saying this is my last chance, my only hope, what's the administration supposed to do? >> it's difficult. i think what you've seen in the past is the administrations have sent someone who was high level but didn't have an official position, someone who they had some distance from. we also don't know what the north koreans are going to do. they're unpredictable. as we were talking earlier, you don't want to be seen to be making concessions to them. i think if you can send somebody you have a relationship with, but not an administration

appointee. >> such as bill clinton. >> jimmy carter has gone in the past. bill richardson, former administration official in the clinton administration has gone many times, has a relationship with them. somebody can negotiate but you have some distance from so you're not seeming to give the north koreans exactly what they want. >> why do you think they chose today to pull cnn will ripley aside and say, look, we have these exclusive interviews with you? >> i don't know. one of the things we've seen in the past is the tendency to feel ignored when there are other conflicts in the world. it's a remarkable thing when the north koreans want attention, this is a basket case economy, cannot feed its own people, done various things to get attention, whether talking testing weapons, making threats across south korea, in order to get attention especially when the west seems occupied as it is right now. >> in the interviews we'll play

more of throughout the program, there are portions that seem awkward, that seem peculiar, that seem scripted. can we assume that these detainees were handed scripts by the north korean officials? or is it not that obvious, peter? >> i would imagine -- we know they're being tightly controlled. surely they would not be able to see freely whatever they want. that's why i think one has to take these claims of good treatment with a real grain of salt. we know kenneth bae has had serious health problems, a person with his health condition would be working in agricultural labor eight hours a day does not strike me as particularly good treatment. i think it only raises the level of concern about this really awful situation. >> peter beinart, michelle kosinski, thanks for all the information. let's go to michaela for a look at the headlines. 34 minutes past the hour. iraqry militants celebrating a victory against isis terrorists. they received help from american

jets delivering targeted air strikes on isis positions. thousands of shooi it's had been facing massacre there by the terrorists. texas governor rick perry in a bit of damage control over a now deleted tweet. that tweet apparently mocking democratic district attorney rosemary lehmberg. perry for his part says he did not authorize the tweet. joan rivers' daughter says her fingers are crossed on her mother's recovering. the 81-year-old comedian is in the hospital in serious conditions. four days after she stopped breathing during throat surgery. she apparently suffered card ag and respiratory arrest during that procedure. a lot of folks praying and laughing for her. meanwhile, next up on "new day," new hope for the million whose suffer from heart disease. we'll ask a doctor about an

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good to have you back with us on "new day." potentially groundbreaking medical news this morning after promising results from an experimental drug to treat heart failure. the drug from novartis lowered participants chances of death or hospitalization by about 20%. so the question is are the results sustainable and could this be a game-changer for the 6 million people in the u.s. who suffer from heart failure? put all those questions to dr. nisa goldberg, a cardiologist at nyu medical center and got up nice and early. although i imagine cardiologists are up fairly early. >> we are. >> significant, 20% seems significant. >> it is significant, not only did it prolong life but also reduced current hospitalizations and improved the patients equality of life. >> quality of life is such a key part and also the expense of having repeated hospitalizations. >> very expensive. it takes a toll on the patients

and their families. >> tell me how this differs from previous treatment and medicine used to treat heart failure. >> we have pretty good medicines to treat heart failure. this is the first medicine in about 25 years that is showing to be a big difference, a game-chang game-changer. one of the medicines it was compared to is analopril. >> an a.c.e. inhibitor. >> yes. people are on a.c.e. inhibitors, diuretics or water pills. this medication would be added to them. the new medication would be added to the a.c.e. inhibitors and the beta blockers and the water pills. >> talk to me about it. the first thing people always want to know about are side effects. you're adding a new medicine to the mix. on its own are their side effects or in conjunction? >> what was very interesting in the study, the people on the new medication were more likely to have low blood pressure, but it

didn't require them to stop the medication. as expected, it was more common for people on analopril to develop a clot. also of concern but didn't happen in the study was to get compromise of the kidney function. it didn't happen in the study. >> oftentimes these medications will be used, not as a last-ditch effort, but depending on how far along people are in the illness. thises this just as effective in somebody showing the first signs. >> this was shown to be effective in people with chronic heart failure, those already diagnosed with heart failure, not those coming into the hospital with the first signs of heart failure. >> must be such a relief for them to know quality of life for them will improve. >> that's right. many years ago people were lying in bed or sitting in a chair. now heart failure patients can take a walk because of these medications and have quality time with their families and

even take a vacation. >> those things, also, you talk about as a doctor, you know very well, that those things support a person's health. >> it does support a person. it's nice to know medications prolong a person's life, we want to know they have a good quality of life on those medications. >> right now it doesn't have a name. it's called lcz 696. >> that's right. the medication is not ready for prescription yet. it has to be reviewed and approved by the fda, and then patients can talk to their doctors about it from there. >> i'm sure there is somebody at home who is ill and hoping for help soon. >> it sounds like it's going to go into the fda for approval by the end of the year. and so we'll know by the end of the year. >> as always, talk with your physician. >> you have to talk with your doctor because your doctor knows you best and could help you make those decisions which medication is right for you.

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biggest stars. hackers allegedly put nude photos of several celebrities online including jennifer lawrence. lawrence' representatives call this a flagrant violation of privacy. how did this happen and what are the targeted celebrities doing about it? nischelle turner is here with more. >> that's a good question. a lot of them are trying to get in front of this and say, you know, we're going to pursue this, maybe alleging some prosecution. supposedly there is this master list of more than 60 celebrities -- this person says they have compromising photos. we don't know if this is real, we do mow the reported hack has definitely touched a nerve in hollywood. hacked celebrities are firing back after a slew of nude photos of jennifer lawrence and others appeared online friday night. the photos were allegedly

obtained through massive online hack. a publicist for lawrence confirmed the photo's authenticity and release add statement saying the hack was, quote, a flagrant violation of privacy and added that the oscar winning actress plans to seek legal action. other celebrities also spoke up including mary elizabeth win stead who lashed out on twitter. to those of you looking at the photos i took with my husband i took in the privacy of our home, knowing those photos were deleted long ago, i can only imagine the creepy effort that went into this. feeling for everyone who got hackers. hackers also allege ledldly sho others, michaela, grand day and justice have denied the photos are real. this isn't the first time celebrities have faced a hacking scandal of this kind. in 2012 a man was sentenced to ten years in prison for hacking

into the accounts of scarlet johansson and mila kunis and posting the private pictures online. many times the celebrities affected do not respond publicly. but kate upton's attorney sent us a statement saying this is obviously an outrageous violation of our client, kate these illegally obtained images to the fullest extent possible. in jennifer lawrence's case, also her team is threatening to pursue prosecution. she's a pretty straight shooter with the fierce pr team. doesn't surprise me that they are trying to get out in front of this type of thing. and quick. >> i was interested because two of the actresses denied it was them. she could have taken that tact and said we don't know who the photos are. >> having said that, we do see that a lot. there are a lot of pictures out there online that are photo shopped of celebrities claiming to be nude photos. they could in fact be fake. we do see that a lot. so you just never know. having said that, jennifer

lawrence an i ha lawrence and i have talked often about the invasion of privacy. she said she gets panic attacks when these things happen, she had to go into seclusion in her home. she gets really freaked out about these things. i can understand her team saying, listen, we're not taking this lying down because we want to defend her rights. >> nischelle -- >> a whole lot of privacy out there. >> i got a note from my bank saying someone tried several times to put my information in and get into my bank account. and so i had to change everything. so they're out there. they're definitely out there. >> thanks. >> as the investigation into kevin ward jr.'s death on a dirt track continues, tony stewart returned to racing last night in atlanta. >> andy schole has more in this

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message to the united states. >> too cautious. president obama criticized by his own party over his handling of isis. this as the u.s. helps an iranian backed militia take back a town in iraq. is there now coordination between these two countries. terror threat, the british prime minister just hours away from announcing new policies to battle terrorism at home. this as that country raises its terror alert. should the u.s. do the same? your "new day" continues right now. >> good morning, everyone. welcome to "new day." it is labor day, monday september 1st. 8:00 in the east. >> we're celebrating labor day by working. >> that's right. we begin with a cnn exclusive, fascinating. three americans being held captive in north korea. they are speaking out.

our will ripley was in north korea and had the rare opportunity to speak with all three men including kenneth bae, a missionary detained in 2012, accused of planning to bring down the government through religious activities. here is some of what bae had to say to cnn's will ripley. >> what do you know about the charges that you now -- you believe you're guilty of the charges you've been convicted of here? >> yes. >> and you're currently serving time. can you tell me about your conditions? >> yes. i'm serving 15 year sentence right now. and i've been going back and forth from hospital to the labor camp for the last year and a half. and right now i'm serving at labor camp right now. >> tell me about the conditions at the labor camp? >> condition at labor camp is i'm working eight hours a day, six days a week, and working agriculture work to other hard labor that is required to do

every day. >> do you think you're being treated humanely? >> yes. >> and your message to your family? >> well, i'm sure they're very worried about my health at this time. and even though right now last month and a half my health has been failing. so right now what i can say to my family and friends is to continue to pray for me and also ask them to continue an effort in getting me released here. >> can you tell me what you did? did you know at the time you were breaking the law here in north korea? >> well, i did have some assumptions, but i did not quite agree with the charges until i got here. so and after being trial for, you know, that period of time, i

realized that what i -- i violated the law. but at the time i wasn't quite sure it was quite serious as they were charging me now. >> can you give me more insight about your daily life and do you have contact with any other americans? >> no. >> or other people, koreans that are in prison? >> no. i'm the only prisoner in the camp. i've been on the prisoner at the camp for last year and a half. i don't have anybody else in the camp other than guard and there is one doctor stationed in there as well. >> so how many staff members are overseeing you? >> 15 or 20 people daily basis. but they're are about 30 or more people in the camp. >> do you get to talk to people on a daily basis? what kind of communication do you have? >> just talking with -- just with the guard and just small

talk and that's all. >> will, what incredible access you were granted. did the north korean officials put any restrictions on you or what you could ask? >> yes. we were told we had five minutes with each american and we were only allowed to discuss very specific topics, the charges that they're facing here in north korea, the conditions under which they're being held and any message they have to pass along to their families and to the american government. and we were told very strongly not to go beyond the five minute limit or beyond those topics. we also spoke with matthew miller and we spoke with jeffrey fowle. matthew miler was detained in april. he admitted to coming here to the airport in pyongyang, tearing up his tourist visa, and seeking asylum in north korea. here's what he had to say when i asked him about his detainment here. >> well, can you tell me about the charges you're facing here in north korea? >> i will not find out until i

go to trial. but i will say that i prepared to violate the law of the dprk before coming here. and i deliberately committed my crime. i have already admitted my guilt. and apologized to the governments of the dprk and i have been asking for forgiveness. >> tell me about your conditions here, how you're being treated. >> i am with good health. i've received medical checks and provided with humanitarian treatment. >> and what is your message to your family? >> first, i'll just say my message to my government, i've been requesting help for a long time. and there has been no movement from my government. the american government is known for having a strong policy of protecting its citizens, yet for my case, there is still no movement. i also have written a letter to

my president with no reply. >> while you're in north korea? >> yes, about one month ago. so for this reason i am disappointed in my government. however, i want to believe that my government or someone is trying their best to help me and i would be very glad to meet the person that saves me. >> what is the bottom line about your situation here and your message that you want to put out? >> that my situation is very urgent, very soon i'm going to trial, and i would directly be sent to prison. i think this is -- this interview is my final chance to push the american government into helping me. >> i also asked miller why he sought asylum here in north korea in the first place and he told me that's a question he did not want to answer. he, by the way, is awaiting trial in about a month. another american, detand american awaiting trial, very soon, he was arrested on his

daughter's birthday, and he admitted what he did was left a bible in a seaman's club while on a train tour of the dprk. he says he now realizes that that was considered a covert act. he signed a confession admitting his guilt and he desperately wants to return to his family. here is what he told us. how are you being treated here? >> reasonably well. i haven't any complaints. food is good. i get a daily walk with the guides. even medical care has been furnished couple of times. and quarter is good, hotel suite type of room. i don't have any complaint about the treatment, very good so far. i hope and pray it continues while i'm here two more days or two more decades. whatever the case is. >> your message to your family? >> message is i'll come home as soon as i can. my family is the biggest thing on my mind now. i have the wife and three school aged kids that depend on me for support. >> the bottom line, your message

about your conditions here and your situation? >> i'm good are for the time being. but i need to let people know that i'm getting desperate. i'm getting desperate for help. i understand there are three americans in detention here now in dprk, which is the most since the pueblo incident. >> no communication with the others? >> no. i know the name of the third guy, ken bae has been here for the longest, kenneth bae. i'm sure he's desperate to get back. this is an opportunity for maybe bill clinton to come back and he had released a couple of journalists a few years back. maybe george bush, his turn as an elder statesman to try his hand at that. i appreciate any help they can lend. help resolve our cases and bring us home. >> jeffrey fowle from dayton, ohio, no contact with the other detained americans. matthew miller and kenneth bae. all men appear to us to be in good health. though kenneth bae has been in and out of the hospital with a number of different health conditions. he says the work at the labor

camp has only made his health deteriorate. all of these men are desperate for some sort of intervention from the united states government so they can leave north korea and come home. >> will, jeffrey fowle and matthew miller have been in custody there for several months. you heard him say since the 7th of may for fowle. kenneth bae for a couple of years. why do you think the north korean authorities pulled you aside today to grant these interviews? >> yeah, we were in the middle of a government approved tour and we were whisked to an area where we were told -- we weren't told where we were going, who we were talking to, we were told it might be a government official and just before we entered the building where the americans were being held, we were told that in fact we would be speaking with the detained americans. we had put in a request when we arrived here in pyongyang five days ago. this is an indication that the north korean government has granted these interviews to cnn, it is making these men available to pass along a message. not only to their families, but to the u.s. government. it may be a sign that north

korea is hoping, in fact, not a sign, we know from talking to officials here in north korea is hoping to open up a line of communication with the united states. they have a very important relationship with china that has seen some tension as of late. obviously united states sanctions hurt the economy here very much. so this country is very keen to have a dialogue with the united states. these three men may be an opportunity to bring a diplomat over here for the north korean government and open up a channel of discussion. we'll have to see what unfolds from here. >> and, will, all three of them, we heard they're making a personal appeal to the u.s. government for more help because they say there has been no movement. this is a quote from matthew miller, no movement from the u.s. and you heard jeffrey fowle there say this might be an opportunity for bill clinton or someone of that sort of high echelon to come to north korea to help out. do you think that there is any movement on the u.s. side in terms of getting these guys out?

>> that's going to be a question we will have to pose to the u.s. government officials after they watch this interview. you saw most of the raw interview just now right here. we played it for you relatively unedited so you can hear how the conversation went down. again, we were under very strict guidelines, none of the men have communications with each other. they were all kept in separate rooms in a darkly lit hotel in central pyongyang and then as soon as the interview is over, we were put in a van and taken back to our hotel here, which is where i'm standing. what will happen now presumably is the united states government will hear this message, the message that these men so desperately wanted to convey, and then we'll have to see what their response is. >> all right, will ripley, thanks so much for that exclusive. stay with us throughout this hour because kenneth bae's sister will share her reaction to seeing her brother and her thoughts on what he had to say. that's coming up in 20 minutes. >> got to be mixed feelings there, relief on the one happened to see her brother, but

to hear his health is failing, that's got to be heart wrenching also. >> yes. we'll ask about all that. so much other news, to iraq now, where iraqi troops ended a two-month isis siege with help from u.s. air strikes. the terror group was threatening to massacre thousands of shiites. so what is the next step now in the fight to slow isis? want to get straight to barbara starr at the pentagon. good morning, barbara. >> good morning, john. breaking the siege on this town appears to be the next step for now. u.s. and iranian forces on the same side, but not necessarily working together. this morning, 120 total u.s. air strikes across iraq now proving effective. following the strikes around the town of amerli, joint iraqi forces, some backed by iran, broke isis' more than two-month siege. amerli is home to thousands of turk men, an ethnic minority

facing an imminent massacre by isis according to a u.n. official. it was the iraqi military with the help of some shiite militia, some who once fought american soldiers, that led to the ground offensive. this would be the first time u.s. forces and iran backed militias have worked together against the brutal extremists. the obama administration says there is no direct coordination with the militias. >> we got into iraq because we had humanitarian issues we had to deal with and because we have to, in our way, we have to stop isis. it is very dangerous group of people. >> reporter: the u.s. also made a humanitarian air drop. according to the u.n. residents have been without power and face severe food and water shortages. this as u.s. military forces continue conducting strikes

throughout northern iraq, mostly supporting efforts around iraq's largest dam, critical infrastructure once under isis control. and several hundred marines will now remain on station in the persian gulf for another three weeks beyond their scheduled departure date, waiting for their replacements to arrive. right now it is just another signal that all of this is going to go on for some time. john? >> barbara starr at the pentagon, thank you very much. appreciate it. let's look at some of the other headlines, michaela pereira. >> we start with a diverted flight of michigan to orlando flight forced to make an emergency landing in south carolina sunday night. it had experienced an issue with cabin pressure two hours after takeoff. the flight has been rescheduled to continue on to orlando later this morning. thankfully no injuries reported among the 152 passengers and six crew members on board. investigators say they

believe a suspected serial bank robber has emerged again after a two-year hiatus. they state man known as the ak-47 bandit held up the first nebraska bank in nebraska city on august 22nd. this man is also wanted in connection with a string of other robberies in idaho, washington, and california in 2012 including one where he shot a police officer. san francisco 49ers defenseman ray mcdonald is out on bail after being arrested early sunday morning on a felony domestic violence charge. this incident takes on heightened significance because if the charges are substantiated, it would be first test for the league's new penalties for domestic violence. those guidelines announced last week call for a six-game suspension for a first offense. a lot of people watching this. >> nfl stepping up. 14 minutes after the hour. next, critics are blasting the president for another comment, he told a crowd this weekend the world has always been a messy

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this comes as the president decides not to increase the terror threat level despite the fact that that's what great britain is doing, that despite the fact there are new emerging concerns about isis. so is the president downplaying or minimizing what is really a very dangerous situation? let's bring in clark kent irvin, former inspector general of the office of homeland security, now the director of the aspen institute's homeland security program. thanks for being with us. i appreciate it. let me just read you the quote that raised eyebrows again. it said, the truth of the matter is that the world has always been messy, we're just noticing now because of social media. always been messy. look, we have a war in iraq, we have this crisis in syria, decisions about whether to bomb in syria, a pool party among militants at the embassy in libya, we have what is going on in ukraine right now, north korea potentially bargaining for hostages right there or prisoners, you have democracy protests in hong kong. is this just normal messy or is this worse than usual messy?

>> well, i say it is worse than usual, john. furthermore, really depends what the president meant bit comment. if he meant there were other periods in our history where we had security challenges, some graver even than the security challenge we face from isis, then that's not just true. we faced the prospect of instantaneous nuclear annihilation, but if a few weeks pass or a couple of months or six months or a year and we don't see any action in syria to complement the limited action we're seeing in iraq, which seems more motivated by humanitarian concerns than security ones, in retrospect that comment will be seen as mere hand wringing and shoulder stroking. what we really need is a rallying cry. the president, i think, needs to rally democrats and republicans here on capitol hill and washington. and then ultimately the international community to confront and defeat this very serious and unprecedented terrorist group isis. >> now, there are critics of the president who say he's too cautious, including democratic senator dianne feinstein said it

over the weekend. his supporters say no, the president is cool. he is calculated. he is calm. he is unflappable, they say, in the face of all of these crises. so how do you differentiate between cool and overly cautious? >> on this one, john, i must say i come down on the side of senator feinstein. she's a very tempered legislator and not one of his reflexive critics on capitol hill. i agree with her. in this instance i think the president is too cautious. one thing about the united states, we mackke a mistake, we correct for it. i think the bush administration tended to act first and think through the consequences later. we have the opposite situation here with the obama administration it seems to me. we know what needs to be done to confront isis in syria. we need air strikes. we need special operations forces. we need an expanded intelligence presence both human intelligence and signals intelligence. we need to arm and train is left of the rebels in a much more robust way than before.

and we need international partners. the last thing we need to be seen doing is intervening in the sectarian war on one side in this instance on the side of the shia against the sunnis. but america has to lead and if america leads, others will follow. absent american leadership, there won't be international support for what we need to do to protect ourselves and the rest of the world. >> peter byner wrote an article in the atlantic. he suggested the president does have a strategy. he suggests the president is a fierce minimalist. and what the president is saying is that the united states will protect u.s. interests with military means when the united states is at direct risk, when there is a clear threat against the united states. but short of that, the u.s. will not engage militarily. what is happening in syria may be awful, but not a threat to the united states. what do you make of that? >> i say two things about that. if that in fact is the criteria, the president hasn't always followed that. you can argue there is not a direct threat to the united states when we engaged the

military action to topple gadhafi. i think there is a clear and direct and immediate threat posed to the united states. the secretary of defense said as much about a week ago or so. the fact is that we have got about 2500 westerners of whom there are 100 americans who are training and fighting for isis right now, who are just a plane ticket ride away from the united states. isis has the capability and the desire to attack us here in the united states. there is competition now among jihadi groups to be the biggest and the baddest on the scene and the biggest, baddest thing to do is to best al qaeda by carrying out another attack here on homeland. i fear that's what we're going to see in the not too distant future if we don't take immediate action to confront it. >> let's hope not. always appreciate you being with us. great pleasure, sir. >> thank you. three americans being held in north korea, they speak exclusively to cnn. you need to hear this. among them, kenneth bae, spent almost two years being held by

pyongyang, we'll speak with his sister about his new interview and if this new interview gives her any hope.

since the last time i transferred back from the hospital to the camp, i lost already 15 pounds or more. and then it has been very difficult to stay in camp right now. so i do ask the u.s. government and people out there to really put effort to send somebody. >> that was kenneth bae speaking exclusively with cnn this morning. bae is a missionary who has been held by pyongyang since november

of 2012. north korea says bae was trying to bring down their government through religious activities. his family has been anxiously awaiting any signs of life from him and we're joined now by his sister, terri chung to react to what bae had to say. good morning. >> good morning. >> tell me your reaction to watching your brother's tapes this morning. >> it is really difficult to watch because kenneth is, you know, kind of full of life and very cheerful kind of a person. and it is clear from the video that he is under a lot of stress. and he talks about his health failing and being in complete isolation for almost two years. and it is devastating for our family to see that on tv. >> i can imagine. he says that he's working in a labor camp. he says he works eight hours a day, six days a week, he says he does hard labor. you heard him there. he said he lost 15 pounds. what do you want us all to know about his physical condition?

>> he has been since back and forth between the labor camp and the hospital for -- this is the third time in the labor camp now. and we remain incredibly concerned about his health. and we're just afraid his body is not going to be able to withstands the strains of the physical labor. we're just pleading with leaders of both nations to give this -- it is a priority and please let him come home. >> tell us about his emotional condition. you say he's an optimist by nature. what -- how do you think he's enduring all of this? >> you know, i think he's doing the best he can. but, you know, we know that two years of being isolated and working in a labor camp, i know it is not easy. so i think you can see it is taking a toll both physically and mentally. we are concerned about him for sure.

>> in this tape that cnn has the interview exclusively this morning, he's begging the united states government for help. do you know if what at all the u.s. government has been able to do on his behalf? >> we know they have been working behind the scenes to try to procure his release and we are once again reiterating our thanks, but also too pleading with our government to continue their efforts to secure his release immediately. i think there is urgency now that he's back in the labor camp and his health is failing. >> has the rest of your family been able to see these interviews yet? >> no, we're on the west coast, so being woken up and we're starting to hear that and try to get reaction from my mom and others. >> yes. what are you asking of the u.s. government this morning? >> we are asking that this is an american citizen, hard working

father of three, who has been in prison in north korea for almost two years. please do everything possible to bring him home now. >> terri chung, thank you for joining us. let's hope your words are heard. thank you. we'll check back in with you. >> want to bring in bill richardson, former governor of new mexico, former ambassador to the united nations and most importantly for us this morning he has helped negotiate the release of hostages from north korea in the past. he joins us now by telephone. ambassador, thank you so much for being with us. i think we just lost ambassador richardson. we'll try to get him back as soon as we can because his expertise on this will be crucial. >> he's helped secure the release of others and he may be instrumental in this. next on "new day," president obama getting plenty of criticism from the right, but now he's hearing it also from

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want to talk more now about our exclusive interviews with three americans being held prisoner right now inside north korea. really stunning, surprising interviews. with us by phone, former governor of new mexico, bill richardson, also former ambassador to the united nations, a man who helped negotiate the release of americans held prisoner in north korea in the past. ambassador, thanks so much for being with us. >> nice to be with you, john. >> ambassador, wasn't to pli wa you a little sound from the interview kenneth bae gave will ripley. >> i've been asking the american government to act upon getting me released here and i do believe that special envoy need to come in order to resolve the situation i'm in right now. >> that's the message we heard from all three prisoners. it seemed almost scripted. and it seemed to me as if north korea was trying to send a message, hey, send an envoy now,

send someone high profile, so we can get this done. >> that's accurate, john. the north koreans are sending a message and the message is from the three americans were scripted. one, that they're being treated properly, secondly send an envoy, so the north koreans are basically saying by giving access to your reporters, hey, you know, we're still around, you may be thinking about isis and ukraine and the middle east, but we the north koreans, we're still around and basically they're saying, we're ready to bargain with these three americans. the issue, though, john is i think the u.s. government is saying first release them, then maybe we talk. the north koreans are saying, let's talk first about some of our differences. then we'll release them. that's where the impasse is. >> does the fact that north korea is sending this mess annual in such a high profile way with the very, you know,

specific request to send an envoy, does that in some ways hurt the chances, because if the united states does, it looks like they're catering to the whims of the north koreans. >> well, yeah, i think the administration has handled this properly. i know they're trying very hard to get them out. but, you know, we have said in the last few years, look, north korea, you've got to reduce or terminate your nuclear program. you got to take a step like a moratorium on nuclear detonations. and then we'll talk. but the north koreans are saying, no, no. first, you need to send an envoy, send an official person from the administration. i don't think they're interested in like nongovernment envoys. in the past, i used to go, you know, president clinton. i think they're saying they want an official to official talks. so, you know, the good news, john, is that the fact that they

trotted them out, they gave access to your reporters means that there is negotiating room, that there is a possibility for a deal, but it gets very complicated with the north koreans. >> to be discussions. so i think they're being very .

and they shouldn't be there. and we should do everything we can to get them out. make it a humanitarian issue. but, again, the north koreans, they, you know, they're in their own stratosphere. they have peculiar way of negotiating. when this new leader, john, he's not the way his father was. we used to be able with his father to negotiate a little more directly so we don't know much about the new leaders negotiating. >> to be clear, kenneth bae is in a labor camp. he says working eight hours a day in that labor camp. why now is north korea trying to take advantage of the world situation right now and all the chaos and so many other areas. >> i believe the north koreans have decided, look, we have had

these guys a long time, like kenneth bae, over two years. this is very, very cyclical for that family, a very fine family. they're probably saying, look, you know, we have got this issue now. we milked it all we can. let's negotiate and get something out of it. that's a little bit of the goodness. >> to be clear, do you think the white house will respond? >> well, i think the state department, the white house, i think has to assess, you know, the semantics of okay, we'll deal with you, we'll send an official, we'll have official talks, but i think this will -- this will generate some policy review and the administration, maybe narrow some of these differences. but, again, i think the administration is right to say, look, you can't keep detonating nuclear weapons. you're using these americans as bargaining chips, but it is a

humanitarian thing. let's get this thing done. >> ambassador bill richardson, thank you so much for being with us. appreciate your time, sir. allison? president obama is getting criticism from a prominent member of his own party over his handling of isis. here is what senator dianne feinstein said yesterday. >> i think i've learned one thing about this president and that is that he's very cautious. maybe in this instance too cautious. >> well, this following a firestorm over the president's comment that the administration, quote, did not have a strategy yet against isis in syria. so let's debate all of this with cnn political commentator ben ferguson and mark lamont hill and cnn contributor and professor at morehouse college. ben, when a fellow democrat says he's being overly cautious, is that notable? >> i would say yes. but dianne feinstein said a couple of weeks ago, isis is a military, well trained, have a lot of resources, a lot of money

and will take another well trained military to beat them. we wbetter pay attention. this is the second warning keeping the pressure on the white house saying you're going to have to deal with this. no one else is going to do this for you. i know you don't want to be a war president but isis is a real threat. it will take our involvement. i think more importantly, our leadership to beat isis because if we don't lead, it is not like someone else is going to stand up here and do it. these people are doyne ting the they with. >> feinstein went on to say she agrees with two republican senators, mccain and lindsey graham, who put out a new york times op-ed titled stop dithering to the president. so i know that you're going to state president is which

means more sectarian violence and terrorism. >> here is my issue with that, there is political theory and reality. the reality is isis is going to have to be dealt with. and if you don't start to do it, i think a lot of this comes down to theory, i don't want to be a war president, don't want to get involved, don't want to be there, i want others to stand up. but in a vet limited way. and my issue is this. you have -- we're saying you're already are putting it in this box of i don't want troops on the ground. >> i want u.s. troops on the ground.

i'm fine with arming the peshmerga forces, which we're beginning to do i don't like seeing the unlikely bedfellows with iran on the border, or -- >> i still think -- i think part of it is -- i think obama believes if i don't dignify them, use things like calling them junior varsity or jv or say i don't have a strategy with isis, somebody else in the world will stand up to them because they think maybe america isn't going to take the lead. it is a bad situation to put us in because no one else has the capabilities to do it. >> what are you basing that on? >> look at david cameron, what he's saying. he's being blunt and calling them what they are, which is terrorists. >> i'm not asking that. the entire west underestimated isis. >> i disagree with that. i don't think isis is underestimated. i think obama underestimated isis. >> david cameron did. the entire west underestimated them, how much money they had,

how much military reach they had, the relationship between them and the saudis. everyone underestimated them. that's not an excuse. it is not obama sitting around waiting for -- >> i think he is. i think obama has intelligence that everyone else is that is watching from the outside doesn't have. he's been briefed on this now for almost two years on isis. he's been briefed on their money, he's seen the videos that we -- >> they didn't have the money then. >> they did start to have money. as soon as they went into syria, they started to have money. >> when they overtook mosul, almost $800 million. that was in the last two months. the bulk of the cash on hand came in the last two months. they were not jv, but a small group, much less powerful than right now. they still don't have the resources to win in the north or the south. they're dangerous. we need to worry about them. but let's not overstate their danger. >> i have other questions but you asked each other several questions. i'll leave it there. ben ferguson, mark lamont hill, great to see you. thank you for the debate.

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his career is over before it began? want to bring in coy wire who spent nine years in the nfl. good morning. >> good morning. how are you? >> very well, thank you. anything but football at play here? was this -- did this have anything to do about the fact that michael sam is gay? >> no, this was completely about limitations within his game, john. i saw him play at the senior bowl, talked to a lot of nfl coaches there who were anxious to see if his game, which we saw in college was outstanding, was going to translate well into the nfl. in college, he had his hand in the dirt, strictly an edge rusher, a lot of production. he's a little bit undersized for the nfl. so they wanted to see could this guy get out in space, drop back into coverage, cover tight ends. and that athleticism in space just was not there. this was strictly about his limitations as an athlete on an nfl football field. >> jeff fisher, the coach of the

st. louis rams, said he played well, and said he was rooting for michael sam the whole time. but there was a little bit of controversy during the preseason. generated by the media, there was this espn report about his shower practices, and, again, you don't think that played into this? >> no, john. i think that's absurd. talking about shower practices. i've seen rookies and ten year vets who didn't shower with the team. they showered later or at home. first round draft picks or undrafted free agents. that has nothing to do with it and absurd that that was brought up. this is a guy who, again, had certain limitations within his game, that didn't translate. and the most important thing, john, i think you'll know this, young guys coming into the nfl, you have to be able to contribute on special teams. and he just did not have that ability to run down, cover a kick, he was, again, a one dimensional player, really good at that one thing, but they needed more from him from that phase of game. >> it is not his fault, by the way, he can't play special

teams, just not that type of player. look, he got cut. we don't know yet if he's going to end up on another team or practice squad. do you think that everyone will look back at this and say this was still a watershed moment, this was still successful for the nfl for the rams and for michael sam? >> i'm glad you brought that up, john. i think you're right on. his bravery was not lost. i don't think we can understate -- overstate, excuse me, we cannot overstate the profound impact and significant role that he played in the advancement of equality in professional sports. there are a lot of brave and courageous men in the nfl. none of them have more bravery or courage than michael sam. >> it is interesting. it does say something that we can sit here and say he didn't make a team because he wasn't good enough, and only because he wasn't good enough. in this case, for the rams, who had too many line men. >> they're loaded at that position, john. they have four solid players

there. and he was a seventh round draft pick. this was a guy, a marginal player, they cut all four of their seventh round draft picks. the atlanta falcons here in this city, they cut a fifth round draft pick. nothing is given. just because you're drafted doesn't mean you'll make a team. the guy is a heck of a player. he may get a chance, john, we'll see. i hope so. there are a lot of people rooting for him, hope his game can develop at the next level, he can contribute there. >> we all hope. or many of us hope he ends up on a team somewhere. and no matter what, he's already a pier in a er pioneer and mader those down the line. next, sticking with sports. major league baseball umpires, they are critical on the field. but is their work off the field that makes them today's good stuff. dad,thank you mom for said this oftprotecting my future.you.

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in between games last week, these umpires got some help from the oriole bird to raise the spirits of little ones at the johns hopkins children's center in baltimore. there it is. the umpires are working with a nonprofit arranging these hospital visits all around the nation. they took the chance to provide some much needed relief, but it wasn't just the kids who came away with a rewarding experience. >> their smile kind of brushes off on you and you get a chance to catch their enthusiasm because they're able to keep a smile throughout everything. it is inspiring. >> going above and beyond the call of duty. >> i hope the kids argued with them to make them feel comfortable. the umps came in there, you got that wrong! >>yelled. >> and kicked a little dirt at their ankles. >> that's great. have a great labor day. time for "newsroom" with carol

costello. >> have a great labor day too. "newsroom" starts now. >> this is cnn breaking news. >> good morning. i'm carol costello. thank you very much for joining me. we start with breaking news. the three americans being held in north korea kenneth bae, matthew miller and jeffrey fowle, all spoke to cnn this morning from a secret hotel in pyongyang. this was a surprise to cnn. will ripley was on a government tour in north korea when he was told to board a van and leave immediately. he was later given the truth about seeing the american prisoners in the reclusive nation's capital. as you might expect, the government tried to control every aspect of the interview, limiting time with each man to five minutes and keeping them all separated in different rooms. will was told they could only ask the prisoners about three things, charges, treatment, and messages to loved ones. here's more from cnn's will ripley.