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degrade and destroy are the words of warning from president barack obama to isis. mr. obama spoke wednesday after meeting with baltic leaders in estonia. >> the president's message is muddled and his strategy for dealing with isis is unclear at best. jim acosta reports. >> president obama came to estonia to reassure allies the u.s. would have their backs against russian aggression. you know wants to destroy the terrorist group. responding to calls to get tough on isis, president obama all but vowed vengeance for the killing of steven sotloff. a message echoed by joe biden. >> we will follow them to the

gates of hell, until they are brought to justice. because hell is where they will reside. >> attempting to clarify his policy for dealing with isis, the president declared at a news conference he wants to wipe out the terrorist group. >> our objective is clear, and that is to degrade and destroy is isil. >> then just a few breaths later, the president appeared to soften that goal. we can continue to shrink isil's sphere of influence, it's effectiveness, it's financing, it's military capabilities to the point where it is a manageable problem. >> that comment was only an acknowledgement that remnants of a defeated isis could pose a future threat.

it was another white house attempt to clean up the president's remarks. >> we don't have a strategy yet. >> reporter: after mr. obama admitted he didn't have a plan for isis in syria. >> it is very important from my perspective that when we send our pilots in to do a job, that we know that this is a mission that's going to work. >> the president tried to reassure the smaller nato states of estonia, latvia and lithuania that aggression won't move to the baltics next. >> you lost your independence once before. with nato, you will never lose it again. >> the actions of the separatists ought to be con signed to a distant history.

>> reporter: to hammer that point, the president met with u.s. forces who will be stepping up their forces in the region. >> thank you for stepping up to the mission that is so vital to the security of our nations. >> the president downplayed any expectations for quick action in syria, pressed twice during his news conference. the president declined to offer any specific timetable. >> now thanks to jim acosta from that report. the family of the murdered journalist said he was the kind of person who always tried to help those less privileged than himself. a spokesman for the family quoted the koran and delivered a message in arabic asking the leader where is your mercy. sotloff was pulled in by the people of the arab world, and ultimately sacrificed his life to bring the world their story.

>> he was no war junkie. he did not want to be a modern day lawrence of arabia, he wanted to give voice to those who had none. steve was no hero. like all of us, he was a mere man who tried to find good concealed in a world of darkness. and if it did not exist, he tried to create it. we will not allow our enemies to hold us hostage with the sole weapons they possess, fear. >> in the coming hours, nato will meet for a defining moment in its 65 year history. it wasn't that long ago when a former u.s. defense secretary took crossword puzzles to nato summits. not now. the u.s. president and british prime minister wrote an op ed calling for a stronger alliance. it meets in part when the world faces many dangerous and evolving challenges to the east, russia has ripped up the rule book with its illegal self-declared annexation of

crimea, and its troops on ukrainian soil threat thing a sovereign nation state. strong language there, echoing a speech president obama delivered just yesterday in estonia. the crisis in ukraine seems to be just one of a list of hotspots that will be on the agenda. nic, where do they begin? >> reporter: well, they begin with afghanistan. afghanistan has been the first of the three main agenda items here that's been pencilled in this way for some time. it will be a transition of forces inside afghanistan. they will change and transition between leading operations as u.s. troops are drawn down and withdrawn over the next two and a half years to a position where those troops will be in an advisory and training capacity.

so that's the sort of front -- the first issue, if you will, second will be ukraine. we're going to hear a lot more about prepositioning of equipment in bases closer to russia in poland, in the baltic states. a rotation of -- a persistent rotation of troops. a rapid reaction force of troops available. there will be a summit dinner tonight at the cardiff castle not far from here. perhaps in the margins of that, the threat of isis. friday, a discussion about the future of nato, there again, the possibility of discussions about tackling isis, but this issue of the threat posed by this terror group that's really rushed up the agenda in the past few weeks, is not one of those three named topic areas up for discussion here john. >> most of the european nations would be much happier with a

stronger defense position, so long as they don't have to pay for it, and money is the big issue here, what are the chances that these countries may pony up more for their defense budgets. >> i don't think we'll see them putting more money on the table tomorrow if you will, the hope is, that of the 28 nations, four that are contributing more than 2% of their gdp, which is what they agree to as being members of nato troops on defense spending, that is, that the others will agree in the coming years to up their spending. we will also see a commitment for spending on ukraine. four funds are being established for treating injured soldiers, logistics, things that help build up and strengthen ukraine's forces, economy and stability. so we will hear about financial commitments for those four funds as well, john. >> we seem to have two competing

narratives, if you like, there's all this expectation, there is an important meeting. but at the same time, expectations are incredibly low, they'll be nothing more than incremental steps being taken? >> well, we're not seeing nato at this time call russia's involvement in ukraine an invasion, and we're not seeing them rush forces toward the border. what they're doing is prepositioning equipment and thousands of troops. there's going to be in the next few weeks a peacekeeping exercise in ukraine, 55 different nations. 1,000 troops, hundreds perhaps from the united states. this is seen as a quick move. and the others -- other steps that they're taking are seen as strong measures. but we've seen this before from nato, where they wanted to

develop a more rapid reaction force, and that hasn't come to a lot. however, because of the threat from russia, this is being seen as a return to core values for nato, and it is being seen as a significant shift. so the expectation is, while progress may be slow, in relative terms for nato, there will be significant change in commitments made, john. >> everything is relative, nick, thank you. senior international correspondent nic robertson, we appreciate it. >> it won't just be ukraine or president obama's or world leader's minds, the threat of isis and how to deal with it will enter into the discussion. jimana, as leaders talk, there's new evidence according to the human rights watch, that isis have committed one of the worst atrocities ever. this took place in june near tikrit, what more can you tell

us. >> well, this happened. it was recruits from camps. this is a military air force base, a former u.s. military base north of baghdad, as you mentioned near tikrit. what we know is, in june, when isis made those advances and it took over the city of tikrit after it took over moos you will, the next day it claimed it had executed 1,000 shiite recruits, who were based at camp spiker. it released images afterwards showing extreme -- hundreds of young men in civilian clothing who were led by gunmen in those areas, and then other images that came up showing them in some of them -- said to be these recruits, lying in trenches with their hands bound. now, there's been no official figures of how many have been

captured or killed in that attack. how many -- and we've heard from human rights watch earlier around that time saying, it estimated 170 to 190. but more an more evidence is coming to surface as you mentioned, new satellite imagery of the areas where they believe these masquerades are, revealed the number could be up to 7670 and human rights watches cautioning this could be a much higher figure. i've heard here from a senior health official who says 1,000 families registered looking for their sons who have been listed as missing from camp spiker. we've seen the families military families coming from southern iraq, this is where a lot of these recruits came from, protesting here in baghdad for weeks now. outside the green zone, where parliaments and governments are demanding answers, they want to know the fate of their sons, yesterday they attended a parliament session where they were allowed to speak there. and it was a reminder, you when

you saw these mothers standing there in parliament, holding the pictures of their sons and asking about the fate of their sons, that really this -- you know, we see these videos that shocked the world, but it's unimaginable pain and suffering for these families who just don't know what happened to their sons. >> i was reading the human rights watch report, they say the total number of deaths is likely to climb further still as more evidence emerges. as you were talking there about members of parliament. we're also hearing they questioned the minister of defense and military commanders about the massacre, what did they have to say for themselves? >> well, basically, they said that there is an investigation that is ongoing, but the families who attended that session, who spoke on behalf of all these military families, a couple of our representatives did, said they wanted to know how this happened, how were all these soldiers, hundreds of

these soldiers and recruits allowed to leave a fortified base like camp spiker at a time when isis was making all these advances. one of the fathers of these recruits said that their sons had been sold by the commanders who were there and that they were captured by local tribes in addition to isis, now the minister of defense denied all allegations that they were -- these recruits were given any orders to leave the base. a commander who was there who's in charge of that whole province said that the orders were on the contrary, not to stay there. it is really unclear what happened that day, and these are the questions that the united nations is pressing the iraqi government to have a public and a really transparent investigation to let the public know what happened, what went wrong at camp spiker, according to one iraqi general, speaking of parliament yesterday, half the answers lie in the city of

tikrit that is under complete control of isis right now, the military has been trying to push him to tikrit and has failed over the past couple months. >> thank you very much. an absolutely shocking -- they found three more execution sites. the numbers we started at 100 and it's up to 770 people killed by isis. >> the assessment we're hearing from the united states, isis still isn't at the same level of strength at least globally as al qaeda, despite their rapid rise. >> just ahead here on cnn, what is it like to have ebola. those who survived the terrifying disease speak out after the break. when healthcare gets simpler. when frustration and paperwork decrease. when grandparents get to live at home instead of in a home. so let's do it.

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the latest american to be infected with ebola, working in western africa for the aid organization known as serving in mission or sim. >> he had worked for the group in liberia before and volunteered his services again after nancy wrightbol and kent brantly contracted the virus. >> more than 30,000 people have contracted the virus in western africa since december. >> as michael holmes reports, there have been some remarkable recoveries.

>> ebola has claimed more than 1900 victims in west africa, some very fortunate patients are beating the deadly virus, including william pauly. he contracted the virus working as a volunteer nurse in sierra leone. on wednesday, he was released from a london hospital saying he feels very lucky. >> my symptoms never progressed to the worst stages of the disease. people i've seen dying horrible deaths really, i never -- i had some unpleasant symptoms, but nothing compared to some of the worst of the disease. >> nancy writebol is also seemingly ebola free. last month she was fighting for her life after contracting the virus in liberia.

she was flown back to the u.s. for treatment and released from an atlanta hospital two weeks ago. on wednesday, telling reporters she relied on her faith to get through the ordeal. >> i had no clue what was going to happen. of course, i knew what the outcome could be. and yet there was no fear. there was just a sense of the lord's peace and presence with us, and i thought, whether i lived or whether i die, it's going to be okay. it's going to be okay. >> writebol and puley are among a handful of patients to receive the experimental drug. they represent several victories against the virus, not everyone who has taken the drug has been cured. there are a limited number of doses, so researchers are racing to come up with a vaccine. meanwhile, health officials at the u.n. warrant virus is outpacing their efforts against

them. >> six months into the worst ebola epidemic in history, the world is losing the battle to contain it. >> reporter: things will get worse before they get better, and that after 20,000 people may be infected before the outbreak ends. michael holmes, cnn. >> nancy writebol who you saw there was speaking publicly about the ordeal. she contracted the disease back in july. >> now, she became oath the second ever ebola patient in the u.s. when she arrived in atlanta for treatment in early august. she spoke to anderson cooper on wednesday, can you see the full interview online at cnn.com/360. and she also spoke -- she said she thought she had malaria, you can read much more online at cnninternational.com/360. we'll be right back after a short break.

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more on the way from the sky, the storm is going to rain out over them here it's really not organized here, but that residual tropical moisture will be enough to get the flooding. we'll watch that closely as another 50 to 75 millimeters of rainfall, anywhere from 1 to 3 inches, that would not be a problem typically it's just coming on the heels of the flooding. we have hurricane norbert there. already impacting with mexico, it will hug the coastline over the next couple days, bring very heavy rainfall certainly, and also some very gusty winds. we'll have to watch that as the bands begin to interact with cabo san look as, not looking good for any vacationers. 100 mile an hour winds as it heads off to the north and west, and then eventually some of that moisture may try to get in toward southern california.

if you're watching from san diego, you may get in on a little bit of this. just some moisture, maybe more rain as far as the computer models. >> we look forward to that. >> thanks, ivan. we have much more ahead on the fight against isis militants in iraq and syria. including a look at the brutal tactics used by the brutal terror organization. why they post so much of it online. so what we're looking for is a way to "plus" our accounting firm's mobile plan. and "minus" our expenses. perfect timing. we're offering our best-ever pricing on mobile plans for business. run the numbers on that. well, unlimited talk and text, and ten gigs of data for the five of you would be...

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it's just after 11:30 p.m. on the west coast of the united states, here are the headlines this hour, u.s. president barack obama is vowing to degrade and

destroy isis, it could take some time. he promised justice for the beheadings of steven sotloff and james foley, saying the u.s. does not forget and will not be intimidated. >> france is suspending delivery of a warship in 2011, because of moscow's allege role in separatist fighting. the french foreign minister says he hopes the situation will change. >> a third person infected with ebola. he's unlikely to receive the experimental z-map drug because there are no doses available. >> amnesty international has added to the war crimes. >> a systematic campaign.

the brutality some say evil is so extreme that it's beyond what many of us could imagine. >> and to understand all of this, we believe we need to at least show you some of that, a warning, what you're about to see is disturbing. really not appropriate for kids, they're around, might be a good idea to get them out of the room. >> cnn's nic robertson reports, isis uses a strategy that relies on terror to instill fear. >> the more isis grows, the more it fights like a regular army. infantry backed up by artillery, tactics that have landed them heavy weapons. don't be fooled, these fighters are barbaric in a way no fighting force has ever been before. cat logging and posting in near realtime their war crimes. last week pictures emerged from

human rights groups, showing more than 100 captured syrian soldiers paraded in their underwear. then images of those same men dead. but isis wanted to make sure the world knew it was responsible. wasting little time posting this video. showing commanders giving the order to fire. then the nauseating hail of bullets, confirmation of how those soldiers were brutally executed. it's propaganda, like me you want to turn away. but when we do, we give in, we are terrorized, and their goal is achieved. almost a decade ago, al qaeda in iraq, which ultimately morphed into isis was led by this

jihadist. bin ladin's deputy wrote him criticizing blood thirsty tactics, the beheadings stopped, but when isis murders james foley in the same way, the same al qaeda core leader has no response, at least not yet. as a result, extreme violence for propaganda seems to have no bounds. isis' wholesale slaughter is institutionalized in the organization now. even women, even young children are given severed heads to hold. isis leader baghdadi is marginalizing al qaeda's call, which means when his protoge's target the west, it could be more despicable than the terror we've seen in the past. these are fighters who have

degraded themselves. they have lost moral compass. and as any regular military commander will tell you, that puts them almost beyond control, and ultimately a danger to their own organization. but unless they implode, despite the veneer of a regular army they'll likely be more horrors like these. nick roberson, cnn, london. >> all options are on the table to fight isis, except the ground invasion. >> it's a pretty big option. the islamic militants pose an imminent threat to american interests. he spoke with chief u.s. security correspondent jim sciuto. >> reporter: defense secretary chuck hagel said there is only one u.s. end game. >> we're providing the president with those options to degrade

and destroy isil's capability. >> that's the end game, degrade and destroy? not contain? >> no, degrade and destroy. >> there have been mixed messages as to how imminent and severe they are. two weeks ago, you said they're an imminent threat to every institution we have. the administration seemed to pull back somewhat. you had the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff describe it as a regional threat. is it an imminent threat to the u.s. homeland or to the region. >> first of all, i didn't say homeland, i said to u.s. interests. >> you said to every interest we have. >> that's right, i didn't say homeland, i said to all of our interests. look at what just happened 24 hours ago in the latest video. of another citizen, as to what isil did. it is a threat, isil is a threat to this country to our interests.

>> but is there a plan for military action beyond the current mission in iraq? >> is part of the strategy military strikes inside syria in. >> well, that's an option and we're looking at all those options. >> have you prepared those options for the president? >> the president's asked us for different options and we've prepared those for him. >> and syria air strikes are among them? >> all these things are options that the president wants to see and we've been working with the white house, not just starting with working with the white house, we've been working with the white house for weeks. the president talks to the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, ambassador rice, this isn't something that just popped up the last week or two, we've been working this for the last few weeks. >> a former soldier now leading the nation's armed forces, secretary hagel said the video showing the executions of jim foley and steven sotloff affected him deeply. >> how did you personally react when you saw those videos? >> it makes you sick to your stomach.

but it again reminds us of the kind of brutality and the barbarism that is afoot in some of these areas of the world. and it is our responsibility, the president, the vice president, mine, all of us to do everything we can to stop this now. because it won't just recede into the gray recesses of history until we stop it. >> the united arab emirates has become one of the most high profile countries in the middle east to condemn isis, calling the group a scurge. the forthministry released a statement saying the uae expresses its deepest concerns and strongest condemnation of the terror acts. we condemn the atrocities of so called isis which aims to kill, terrorize and demolish historic and religious sites. while isis has grabbed

headlines of late. al qaeda is also on the move. they've announced the formation of a wing in india. let's go to our new delhi correspondent. this was announced shortly after the statement came out by al saturd zawahiri. what does it mean? >> we spoke to the indian ministry today, they said they're taking this video very, very seriously, they will not tell us what that security alert means, though. what they are saying is that security alerts in general mean that in the states that were mentioned by lal zawahiri, they will be asking their police stations, all of their units to just be alert as to what could happen. remember, both of those states

as well as those in the northeast are states that have seen hindu/muslim clashes in the past. recently as well. those are the places that the government's going to be looking out for. hin hindu/muslim clashes in india very, very different from the kind of terror that we've seen from al qaeda in other parts of the world. >> so, ravi, how big is al qaeda's presence in india? why has this announcement been made now. >> every single security analyst i've spoken to says that al qaeda doesn't have a very large presence in india, in fact, if you look at the south asian terrorism portal, most terror attacks in india are not even islamic terror, they are maoist terror groups. al qaeda is not a great force in india, which is not to say the

indian government isn't taking it seriously. it shouldn't be surprising that al qaeda is looking to recruit in india. india has about 175 million muslims, that is more than every single country in the middle east put together. south asia has more muslims than almost any other part of the world, when you consider bangladesh, pakistan and india added together. and then you have indonesia, which has about 200 million muslims, in many ways, al qaeda's probably looking at south asia as a great new set of catchment area of sorts. >> ravi, thank you for that. thanks for being with us. now, the u.s. department of justice is launching a review of the police department in ferguson, missouri, if you remember, unrest broke out there last month after a white police officer shot and killed an african-american teenager. >> officials will decide if the forces operations met federal

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russian president vladimir putin says he has a seven-point plan for restoring peace in eastern ukraine. >> it calls for an immediate end to the fighting by rebels and government troops. and ukraine's military will withdraw from conflict errors. ukraine's minister dismissed it as a rescue plan for the rebels. it's a ploy to ignore further eu sanctions. >> he unveiled his plan after poroshenko said progress was being made. roughly this time yesterday, president poroshenko suggested he had agreed to a cease-fire with putin. they didn't seem to be on the same page, did they? what happened. >> reporter: isa, the confusion was over a phone conversation between russian president

vladimir putin and poroshenko. there were reports that these two leaders agreed to a cease-fire, which would have been big news. but quickly, moscow clarified the reports were false, russia was not a party to this conflict and mr. putin was not authorized to announce a cease-fire. and then kiev and moscow clarified that the two leaders had agreed to a framework, to the conditions with which a cease-fire would be put in place, and those conditions included an end to military operations in southeastern ukraine, a pulling out of troops, and establishment of a humanitarian corridor, where refugees and victims could get out of the battle zone and humanitarian aid could get in. and international monitors would be put in place to make sure the conditions would be met. yesterday, mr. poroshenko delivered another message saying he was hopeful these conditions would be put in place as early as tomorrow, friday, when all sides of this conflict would

once again meet in belarus, but late yesterday prime minister yatsinyuk seemed to pour cold water on this plan, saying this was a russian ploy to avoid sanctions. even so, this is still the best sign yet that these two sides of this conflict are close to a breakthrough, close too a cease-fire. >> they have mixed messages indeed. today, the president is due to meet with nato leaders, what is ukraine looking to get out of nato over the next few days. what are the goals for the ukrainian president, reza? >> what ukraine wants and it looks like they're getting it is full support from nato, washington in western capitols. kiev is not asking for weapons, they're not asking for military intervention, they're asking for support. and it looks like it's happening, over the past couple days, nato has suggested that they're going to skband their

bases and bolster their capacity in eastern europe. they're also going to hold annual exercises in western ukraine that were earlier cancelled, those exercises are going to be held later in september, however, and this is important, all of this could be viewed by moscow as provocation. remember, the over arching concern in moscow is nato expansion toward its border, there's a lot of concern in russia, that nato is encroaching on the security zone of russia. they don't want that obviously, and that's why many observers say perhaps nato intervention at this particular time may backfire and may not be a good idea, it looks like it's happening, isa. >> reza thanks very much, be sure to join us next hour, nic robertson will have a live interview with david cameron ahead of today's nato summit. we will take a short break right now, after that, we'll have puppy pay back for the ceo

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heavy rains are flooding parts of asia. more details from the cnn weather center. >> they've been focused along an area toward shanghai. a boundary has shifted a little further south. i think we'll be getting a bit of a break over the next couple

days, at least in china. japan getting in on very heavy rainfall. going into september like we ended august with incredible rains. let's take you to china, this is what we've been talking about here. you see rescue workers getting rafts. that's how they're getting people out, incredible scenes coming out of china the last couple days. now we're turning to more scattered showers here and not that deluge. area of low pressure across western pacific, we've been talking about this one, it's been impacted with the philippines in the form of very heavy rain, and will likely continue to do so for the next couple days. we want to track it, because it could become our next named storm, haven't had one in a while here, you see it's also enhancing the southwest monsoon.

100, 150 millimeters in addition to what we've gotten already. the united states, in the north, incredible rains on wednesday in the southeast, but as far as the severe weather, that's going to be into western michigan. we're going to have to watch that closely. rotating thunderstorms, you can never rule that out with some of these storms, here's the panoramas, hot to the south and east, we're hanging on to summer. 87 atlanta, that's because we're going to have some showers around, it's going to feel a lot hotter than that. >> you have some of these madeup names? >> apparently some people call it frog stranglers not toad stranglers, i always thought it was tod.

a corporate executive is out of a job because he sparked outrage when he abused a puppy, 200,000 people signed an online petition after surveillance footage showed him kicking the dog. >> desmond hague apologized and said he became frustrated while caring for his friend's doberman pin pincher puppy. he has resigned as ceo. large followings on social media than i do. >> the growing fan base for a sheep, an animal that likes to ram into anything. jeanne moos shows us why. >> how would you feel if you were having lunch and suddenly you were buzzed by a drone. if you're a ram named ed rambro you live up to your name. you not only ram the drone, you

go after the guy who comes to retrieve it. >> slow down. >> a guy who's dedicated a facebook page to you. a motorbike hating angry ram. oh, how you hate motorbikes, even though it was a youtube video that first made you famous. the angry ram was almost a dead ram. the new zealand farmer that owned him was going to kill him. marty todd took him in letting him wander his 100 acres, they have what marty calls a love/hate relationship. rambro has bruised him, but marty feeds, shaves and pets the angry ram. >> he must be in a good mood. >> reporter: marty responded to our questions via e-mail, he's not keen on tv interviews. >> call him? >> rambro. >> he's a grumpy cat of sheep.

while grumpy is famous for his frown, angry is famous for ramming things. as marty's nephew found out. >> i can't get away from him without him chasing us. >> run, man. >> i'm so glad i'm wearing this getup. >> marty used bread to distract rambro and installed a camera on his back for a little while. when he finally got it on, he got a sheep's eye view of his subaru getting rammed. when he hears a motorbike, he goes out of his way to intercept it. he rams drones. he rams people. he even rams rams. jeannie nose, cnn new york. that does it for us. coming up in the next hour,

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