fire, the last one just about five minutes ago. and it would appear as though there is a very heavy battle going on to the east of the city. this is, of course, where over the last two days the rebels have tried to gain control of the coastal strip between the russian border and mariupol. things did become quiet on friday when the cease-fire was announced. just a couple of hours ago or more the situation has changed very dramatically. it is not sustained. it is not constant shelling but it happens every hour i suppose. in the last hour i heard it twice. on the outskirts of the city a gas station is on fire.

we tried to drive out that direction. as we were nearing the outskirts of the city we heard fire and a lot of machine guns fire. a car with civilians in it drove close to us very badly wounded people inside. we couldn't tell who has been doing the firing or why it should have hit civilians coming into the city. but it would appear to us as though lots of people, certainly midnight local time were driving into the city trying to see the shelling on the outskirts. even though it appears in conversation between the russian and ukrainian president a few hours ago they agreed despite a bitter shelling they said the cease-fire would largely in place. i would argue now that it really isn't anymore. >> appreciate the reporting. of course, we will update our

viewers as soon as we get official response from the ukrainian government. we have heard from neither yet as this continues to unfold in ukraine. two of the biggest upsets in tennis history happened here in new york just hours ago at the u.s. open. the number one and the number two ranked players are gone, crushed by under dogs. tennis legend roger federer lost to marin cilic. federer holds the all time record of 17. number one seed novak djokovic lost in four sets to nishikori. neither of today's winners have been to a grand slam final before. now this. a closer look at something that is affecting all of us whether

you want to admit it or not. everyone online who uses a credit or debit card. >> reporter: the criminal under belly of the internet. hackers meet to buy and sell information, your information. >> this is a grotesque invasion of privacy. >> reporter: debit and credit card data, social security numbers, full and complete access to your most personal information. >> this claims to be michelle obama's credit report. does this look legitimate? >> it looks legit. >> reporter: nude photos of celebrities and sex tapes. >> you have one and i have one. they are traded in these groups. >> reporter: the fbi is investigating but the encrypted matrix of the dark web allows criminal users to remain totally anonymous. how do we keep our private information off of the internet's black market and by using the cloud, shopping online

and posting to social media are we part of the problem? all that and more as we explore inside the dark web. >> before you say that doesn't affect me or i didn't shop there or i'm very, very careful listen to this. roughly half of all american adults have been hacked and that is just this year. here is the break down. if home depot confirms the breach they will be the latest in the string of recent attacks against major companies like target, michaels, neiman marcus, sally beauty and more. if your information is stolen it could sell for as little as a dollar or a lot more. >> reporter: when credit cards are hacked they go on the market. as more companies are breached there is more stolen credit card

info floating around the web. let's break down what happens to your data on the black market. a privacy group called the digital citizens alliance says they found a hacker boasting about having credit card numbers. they pose as a potential customer. >> i'm calling about the credit cards. >> did you want fulls? >> i think fulls, but i'm trying to figure out how many i can buy. >> date of birth, social, all of that, as well? >> i don't know. i'm trying to get some cash. i'm looking to buy some stuff to sell it. >> you are looking to buy stuff online, right? >> yeah. >> what sites are you planning to target? >> reporter: before your card number is bought and sold over the phone you will find them for sale on what is known as the dark web. think of it as the under belly of the internet. it is a network you are only able to access through the tour

network. an encrypted browser that makes it difficult to identify users. the average black market price for all data on the credit card is a little over $100. if it is taken from an account on ebay or pay pal price tag at $27. cost of your bank account, close to $200. stolen cards from asia are worth more than those from the united states. different factors including how quickly your credit card company reacts play into the black market value. you can find everything from drugs to firearms on the dark web. there are photos of nude celebrities bought and fold. >> a lot of times they are privately traded. think of them as baseball cards and they are traded in the groups and we may never hear about it. >> reporter: a dark web of some of your most personal data. >> wow. that tells you how bad it is.

fascinating piece. how do people know if their information is out there? >> who knows? it is not easy to access. you don't know if your information is out there because you think of all of the retailers that have been hacked there is so much information. all of my sources said there is more and more information behind the layers on the internet. i can't tell you if your internet is on the dark net but i can tell you you might know if you are hacked and you see unwanted browser tool bars and a lot of pop ups coming up, if you are accidently sending spam e-mails. and in this scenario just make sure you are checking your credit card statements frequently because this is happening more and more than it used to. >> we know that companies hire these hackers, bring them on board to try to fight off their peers, fellow hackers. can we expect the government, the fbi is investigating, can we expect the government to get a

handle on this and shut them down or is that not a reality? >> the irony is the network where a lot of this is happening was built by the u.s. navy for protected communications. now what is happening is you have these safe communications happening with people perhaps looking for a safe haven but then you have hackers able to access. it is a game of whack a mole. they shut down one of the biggest sites called silk road. you talk to any hacker. i can look around. there are thousands of these sites and there is little you can do. when you speak to some of the hackers they say there are darker forums where these celebrity nude photos from this apple hack could have been circulating for months or years before they went public because there are groups dedicated to this thing. >> i think a lot of us don't want to deal with it and pretend it is not affecting us. i think that is scary to see how to grapple with this. you have to be aware this is

happening. great reporting. appreciate it. coming up next who is to blame for leaking those explicit private photos of celebrities? of course, the hackers are to blame? what kind of responsibility do the tech companies bear that store our data? we'll discuss.

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store photos and documents and data. hackers showed how vulnerable that information can be leaking explicit photographs from more than 100 celebrities. here is dan simon. >> reporter: jennifer lawrence, kate upton and a host of other celebrities' explicit and private photos on the internet. the hackers claimed to have targeted more than 100 celebrities. the photos apparently lifted from a cloud based service. apple acknowledging we have discovered that certain celebrity accounts were compromised by a targeted attack of user names and security questions, a practice that is too common on the internet. the statement says the company's actual systems were not breached raising concerns about the security of the cloud. most of us rely on it whether we

post photos to facebook or use a service like drop box or have contacts or e-mails stored with google, apple or a number of internet based services. >> the cloud has positives and negatives. >> reporter: the chief technology officer for lookout mobile security, one of the biggest players of protecting cell phone data. >> the positives are if you store your data in the cloud it is less likely to get lost. if you lose your phone or your phone breaks or drop it in the lake usually you lose data. the cloud protects you from that and exposes the data to breach if you use a bad password. >> reporter: sometimes if you delete a photo from a dwois it may live on a cloud. exerts say first create strong passwords and enabling two step authentication where you have to enter a four or five digit code usually sent to your phone via text message. >> do you have a sense whether

this was a professional job or amateur job? >> my speculation is this is probably towards the amateur side. professional hackers seem to go after critical infrastructure such as oil and gas or other espionage where amateur hackers might do it for fun to cause chaos on the internet. >> the fbi is investigating the celebrity nude photo hacking. apple says it has and will beef up security. who is responsible for stopping it? i want to bring in cnn commentator mel robins. mel, let's talk about this issue of they are going to get out there at some points because the hackers are not going to stop doing this. part of the issue here is who owns the content. who owns the photos? when you are trying to combat this and get something leaked

down from websites. >> there is first of all what you need to know is that the law presumes that the photographer is the one that actually owns the photos. if you are taking a selfie you are all set under copyright law. you can assert a right to have the photo taken down. if somebody else took the photo you have to have the photographer establish that you own the photo of the subject and that it should be taken down. >> possibly bringing up more private information about who that might be in your fight with the websites that have this posted which is pretty disgusting, frankly, that this is happening. when you look at this in terms of companies. apple it is bad press for them. what did happen is they let people guess passwords and security question answers an unlimited amount of times. they successfully get it. apple has changed that. what should technology companies learn from this? >> i think it is a great

question. i think it is an industry wide issue. we have seen companies like target, home depot, neiman marcus. individual companies have been hacked. this should be elevating our awareness that there are risks involved and a different kind of risk than getting on to an airplane. i think companies are going to have to respond and i think beyond a company responding because this is a blanket issue regardless of the industry in which you work. there are going to have to be industry efforts, industry changes, industry efforts to be accountable to consumers about this. >> how do companies successfully respond? it almost seems like a matter of time before another massive company -- home depot is in the headlines with the suspected hack. this happens to them. are they putting enough resources behind this? >> that is another great question. we don't know if there is r and

d many allocated. we don't know if this is an issue to protect security. we know they are interested in getting our data. the issue that will have to be addressed quickly and the consumers pushing back on with their dollars, with their purchases. do we trust a swipe here? do we trust this product and the company to act on our behalf and invest in our security and safety. >> companies like to get this data. it can be hugely profitable to know as much as they can about us. however, do you think that there should be laws, more tough laws put in place for companies that fail us on this front? >> it is interesting that you ask this because there has not been a successful lawsuit that brought on negligence against a big player like apple. the health care industry, the finance industry regulated in terms of data you can store and

how you are supposed to store it. i believe we will see a lawsuit against apple in this case because what apple said in their press release and martha can probably speak more to this is they said the hacks are too common. if this is a known security threat and a brutal attack against apple but they know this stuff is going on a jury or judge could assess this and say were they negligent? have they not fixed this glitch in their system. they are selling us a product and giving us a 37 page user agreement wink, wink, nod, nod who reads it and saying your stuff is secure when it is not? >> thank you very much. appreciate it. coming up next here our next guest says every time internet users click on a nude photo or terror group's photo they are, quote, abetting evil. that is next. [announcer] who could resist the call...

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when graphic and disturbing material shows up on line it is easy for us to point out the horrors of the material. do we as members of society play any role in it? two very different examples this week, the brutal beheading of american journalist steven

sotloff and the violation of privacy for a number of female celebrities. with me is author and correspondent for the daily beast. he wrote an absolutely fascinating piece. you have to point out how different. these aren't on the same scale. you also said this piece was hard to write because they are such different examples but came to the same conclusion. >> at first i wasn't going to write it because it is like how can you mention something so serious as isis and a nude photo. it is the same question. i think sometimes when it is a moral question differences of magnitude lead you towards the truth a little more oddly enough. i think with the nude photos i think nobody -- it's pretty clear. nobody can think it is right to look at those photos. nobody can rightly night feel you are party to violating someone's privacy when you look at those photos.

you get to the isis question, gets a little more complicated. one person i thought about was back when he was murdered for wrisling at a white woman. >> she insisted his photograph be taken and his coffin remain open. she wanted everybody in the world to know what evil had been done to her son. so with the isis things when you want to not look, when you want to say to yourself am i somehow avoiding evil or turning a blind eye to evil? then the difference between these guys is that those videos were staged by isis. they wanted you to look at them. you know, we are in front of a camera now with the expectation of people to look at it. that is why isis had a camera in front of these guys. >> you right to view these nudes

is not to abet evil but to undermine decency and decency is our strength as we face such monstrous foes as isis. >> i think that is our strength is simple decency. questions as seemingly small as whether do i contribute to violating this woman's privacy or as large as do i abet evil by watching these videos? that is really kind of -- i think the whole question of look or not look really the answer is look to yourself and look to what you really know is right and what you know is wrong. >> because we all know that if we self-examine. it is a fascinating story. thank you for coming in and talking to us about it. we appreciate it. we'll be back here in just a moment. i'm randy and i quit smoking with chantix. as a police officer, i've helped many people in the last 23 years. but i needed help in quitting smoking.

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>> on the red carpet. >> she came in an egg. some people do anything not to have to speak to ryan sea crest. >> at her kitchen counter. >> out front and in the spot light, where she always liked it best. cnn spot light, joan rivers. >> can we talk? >> joan rivers could always talk. >> do you know what it is like to go in the morning and take off a facial mask and realize you are not wearing one. >> with sometimes outrageous yokes nothing was offlimits. >> i hate old people. if you old get up and get out of here right now. >> born in 1933 rivers said as she was growing up in the new york suburbs she wanted to be an actress. >> i never had a choice.

i always say it is like a none's calling. >> her show business career didn't start until she was 24 years old. the graduate moved out of her parents' home and tried to get a job as an actress. while her acting career didn't take off right away she got break working on the ed sullivan show. and joined the iconic second city comedy theater in 1961. >> you started it was tougher. women comedians were rare. >> they were rare and didn't want to listen to you. it is easier because i would come on stage and they didn't want to hear what i had to say. >> you had to be great. >> you had to be stronger. of all my groups -- i never realized it until afterwards, i was the last to break through. my group was pryor and carlynn.

>> she married edgar rosenburg 1964 who would manage her career and become the focus of so many jokes. >> a man's department, very masculine, leather and chains. >> the pair had one daughter together, melissa. >> we had a rule that i never was away more than five days ever for the baby as we used to call melissa. i threw through the night so i could be a scout mother. i would wear that lousy outfit. >> you were in vegas you would go home. >> i thought i was always there. when i wasn't edgar was. there was always a parent in the house. >> 1965 rivers saw her career get a huge boost when she appeared on the tonight show

with johnny carson for the first time. >> gave all of us our start. my life changed. i went on the show the first time, seven years of struggling and on the air he said you are going to be a star and the next day my life is different. >> it was the start of a 21-year professional relationship with carson and the show. she made regular appearances eventually becoming the show's substitute host. rivers decision to launch her own show in the fall of 1986 decoming the first and only woman to host a network nightly talk show ended her relationship with carson and the tonight show. >> he should have been proud. i finally after my contract was up, done, i took another job. cosby did, we all did. i think because i was a woman he

never thought i would leave or maybe he liked me better. the minute i became competition it became out to kill me. out to kill me. and that's what it came down to forever. never spoke to me again. >> the show was cancelled in 1987. a few months later rivers' husband, edgar, committed suicide in a philadelphia hotel room. >> some idiot called the house and said where is your mother. melissa said she is not here and they said please tell her your father killed himself. >> rivers regrouped by doing what she always did, putting her life in the open. >> is there any area you would not go to? >> no. if i think i want to talk about it then it is right to talk about it. and i purposefully go into areas that people are still very sensitive and smart about. >> why? >> you laugh at it you can deal with it.

that is how i have lived my life. if if -- i would have been doing jokes to make it okay for us. >> i'll show you fear. that is fear. if my book ever looked like this it would mean nobody wants me, everything i tried to do in life didn't work, nobody cared and i have been totally forgotten. >> her career surged again when her withering take on red carpet fashion full of biting remarks exposed her to a whole new group of fans? >> you have to wear dead animals. i tried and live ones bite. >> and in 2010 she felt she was at the top of her game. >> i think i'm working the best i have ever worked now because it's all been done to me. what are they going to do?

they going to fire me? i have been fired. audiences are not going to like me. a lot of audiences don't like me. i have been bankrupt. my husband has committed suicide. it is okay. coming up, rivers gets real about life and death. >> if anything happens -- i'm no chicken. i have had a great life, an amazing life. if i died this morning nobody would say so young. so what we're looking for is a way to "plus" our accounting firm's mobile plan. and "minus" our expenses. perfect timing. we're offering our best-ever pricing on mobile plans for business. run the numbers on that.

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the neighbors would say to my mother, how is joan, still not married. my mother would say you know how that hurts. >> joan rivers favorite jokes were about joan rivers. >> when i was 21 my mother said only a doctor for you. when i was 22 she said all right a lawyer. 24 she said grab a dentist. 26 she said anything. if he can make it to the door he was mine. what do you mean you don't like him? he is intelligent. what do you want? >> please welcome joan rivers. >> from an early appearance on the sammy davis jr. show --

>> my goodness. >> i am so sorry i'm late. >> to her comeback with jimmy fallon five decades later. >> this is so embarrassing. i will explain this to you. i sorry. i'm so embarrassed. >> you don't have to be embarrass embarrassed. tell me why. >> coming back it is very special for me to be back. very, very special. so my girlfriend and i decided to get matching vagina rings. >> to celebrate the moment. i appreciate that. you and your girlfriend. >> mine is killing me, but apparently i spoke to bruce jenner and hers is fine.

>> joan rivers. >> rivers built a landmark career in comedy. the job, she said, she always wanted. >> i love performing. it is like a drug for me. love what i do. when i can put two thoughts together as a child i knew that is what i wanted to do. >> i am so thrilled to be here. i want you to know that. >> her secret, saying out loud things others would not. >> when i was in labor having my chi child. >> i hate old people. their bodies, their bodies. enjoy your bodies now. this is how i go to the bathroom. >> can we talk? really when i look at it it's

really what i say to my audiences all the time because i make my audiences face reality and face truth. and you say something and you go can we talk here? are we going to tell it? are we going to tell the truth or not? >> i got you that chapter 11 where you wrap yourself up in saran wrap and lay down on the table and the husband comes home and says leftovers again. >> wicked humor may have caused her trouble. as she told comedian louis ck laughter was her life line. >> i wish i could tell you it gets better but it doesn't get better. you get better. i have gone up and down and bankrupt and broke. but you do it and you do it

because we love it more than anything else. >> bankrupt, broke, rivers had been through everything including her husband's suicide. >> i'm still angry with my husband. i never forgive him. people say you go to heaven and meet edgar. i say i will kill him. >> because? >> because what he did to my daughter. because what he did to us. because what he did to our lives. >> though life wasn't easy rivers always seemed to find a way to make it funny. >> how much have you had done? >> two full facelifts and little bitty tweakings. i have a very good friend in california. i say what do you think, tell me the truth. he says wait another year or wait two years or get in here tonight. >> as a fashion critic for e news she took aim at how other people looked.

>> i love rihanna. why the green lips? it looked like she just [ bleep ] the grinch. talk about christmas [ bleep ] early. i have not seen lips that green since miss piggy got out of the back seat of kermit's car. >> doing standup she was certified funny. she was irreverent. >> where is casey anthony when you need her? >> and irpressable? >> if i can make one person happy with my charity work i will die content. i thought easy give jennifer aniston back her husband. >> and absolutely nothing was o off limits. >> at this age my friends are dropping like flies. i wear black in case i get a

quick call. >> as for her own mortality rivers was unafraid as she told her daughter melissa on their reality show. >> so listen, if anything happens -- i'm no chicken. i have had a great life, an amazing life. if i died this morning nobody would say so young. you're a terrific person. cooper is fine. you are all fine. i have had an amazing life and if something happens things are fine and life is fine. >> when we come back how joan rivers changed everything. >> she blazed the trail obviously for me, all the girls. and in the face of so much adversity. if you ware a denture, take the simple test.

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joan rivers! >> standup comic. late night host. >> are you married?

how many kids? >> six. >> six? oh, god. one by one, or a litter? >> red carpet diva. this is how we knew joan rivers. >> osmond makes mother teresa look like a slut. >> the last made her a legend. >> where's your diamond? there it is. i'm sorry. poor bitch. >> but her groundbreaking career as a woman in comedy might just be her greatest legacy. >> hours after her death, anderson cooper talked with kathy griffin about the woman who was an inspiration, a mentor, and a friend. >> kathy, thank you for being with us. i'm so sorry for the loss of your friend. >> i'm going to try to do a good job, but i feel my head is kind of jumbled because i'm grieving but i also really want to say,

respect must be paid to this woman, and she blazed a trail, obviously, for me, all the girls, and in the face of so much adversity. she was such a great living example to me and we had many, many deep conversations about how it's different for girl comedians and we spoke in sho shorthand and had a language. i said to her, you're in a club by yourself. you're not just in a small exclusive club. you're really the one. >> it's interesting, you and i were talking about this a lot. you were saying you spoke a language that really hardly anybody else can understand. >> well, i think, you know you talk about women and standup, it's really quite different than women who are comedic actresses or women that are had a tremendous support system of, like, big powerful producers or multimillion dollar network deals. you know, everything joan did, she created by herself. and -- >> fighting for it. >> fighting for it. she said something to me, i was, you know, whining about something. she said, look, when you're a

woman in this business, you have to hold on until your knuckles are white, until they chop your fingers off, then you hold on by your wrist, then you hold on by your elbows and you never let go. we would joke about everything. appropriate and inappropriate. but she really lived that. and i don't think she should have had to fight that hard, but she just did. >> also, at the time that she started doing standup, there really -- i mean, lucille ball was a female comedian -- >> not a standup comic. it's very different when you're talking about being on the mike by yourself. >> all alone on that stage. >> you're all alone. i thought it was so cool that the night before she went into the coma, she did an hour-long set. >> yeah. >> at a small theater in new york. for the love at game. she didn't have to. >> that's the incredible thing. the documentary that was made of her recently -- >> "a piece of work." really good. >> if somebody hasn't seen it. >> it's a much watch. >> i want to show our viewers a clip from that. again, she was out doing standup, repeatedly late at night in small comedy clubs just trying out new material. >> and having fun doing it.

>> she also in -- i want to show this clip because she had every joke she'd told in these filing cabinets. let's take a look at the clip from the film. >> these are all my jokes. these are jokes over the last 30 years. these are just -- every time i write a joke, i try to remember to get it on a card. why should a woman cook? so her husband can say, my wife makes a delicious cake to some hooker. and you wonder why i'm still working at this age. >> by the way, did you like her categories? there was one file that said cooking and tony danza. she would make fun of anything and anyone. >> and herself, too. >> first and foremost. >> right. >> so i've been watching a lot of the footage of her earlier appearances. you can see her just having to jump higher and try harder. and she was very good about actually not letting that sort of overtake her with anger. >> she had that relationship

with jauohnny carson for 21 yea. to be then be cut dead by him. >> he broke her heart. >> for taking a job that she wasn't getting the "tonight show." it was a great opportunity for her. it's understandable why she would do it. never spoke to her again. >> she was just cut, that's because she's a woman. several men went on to take over the "tonight show" and other late night shows an network. never a woman. so i -- you know, also, joan was so gracious. you know, he made me. i got to always give him that. she also later on years after that happened to her, she was able to articulate how much it just wounded her. >> also, you know, to have lost her husband to suicide. >> yes. >> find herself raising a daughter by herself. >> yes. >> and have to, you know, move forward and make a living. >> absolutely. >> and you also pointed out something before we went on air, she invented a whole new television programming which is the red carpet stuff. >> yes. she took a bunch of celebrities walking into a building and turned that into two hours of

entertainment. she put designers on the map. before anyone knew who they were. >> this is the egg arrival. she was incubating. >> i'm not going to say anything nasty but she came in in an egg. some people would do anything not to have to speak to ryan seacrest. >> you had dinner with her recently. you were talking about the last time we had dinner together. >> well, we closed the restaurant down. i issued the rules. nobody else. no friends. no staff. she had this great joke. she said, i have a staff. sometimes i get lonely and i turn to them, and say, staff, i'm lonely. who's going to blank me tonight? and she just said things like that at her age that made it actually funnier. >> right. >> and by the way, there she is making a lady gaga joke which most 51-year-olds don't do or 61-year-olds. >> again, the night before she was sent to the hospital, she was doing standup. >> she did a full set. a full hour. not just throwing out a joke or going to see someone else's

show. she always put the audience first which is your job, and didn't worry about -- you know, it didn't -- i don't know if it really occurred to her. i think she was always going for the funny so much that she stopped being startled when celebrities would be upset with her, but thought it was kind of fun around the end. >> there was something almost kind of sensitive about her. the first time i met her -- >> absolutely. >> -- i was really kind of -- i was moved by how vulnerable she was. >> she has been through everything, and so much more than anyone else out there. we were having dinner three weeks ago. she just kept saying, aren't we lucky? sometimes i get bitter and raise my fist in the sky. she'd say, no, we're having fun. and aren't we lucky to be doing this? and it's the best job in the world. >> really says a lot about her. thank you. thanks for being here. you did good. ♪

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