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president obama lays out his plan to take on isis. today the obama administration is trying to sell that plan to key members of congress. one of them, senator bill nelson of florida, standing by to join us live. there he is. president obama is also asking congress for approval to train local forces including syrian rebel fighters designed all of which to take on isis, but how can the united states trust those that the u.s. teaches will not turn on the u.s.? we'll hear from retired lieutenant general -- a retired army lieutenant gentle who trained iraqi forces. also on this 13th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks worries of a new terror threat against america. hello. i'm wolf blitzer reporting from washington.
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he's promised to ultimately destroy isis but how is president obama's plan to take on the terror group being received? and what happens now? the president laid out his strategy for -- in a prime time address last night. among other things he plans to expand air strikes against isis targets in iraq and syria and he wants to arm and train moderate syrian rebels. some are calling the speech an outline of what some are calling the obama foreign policy doctrine. >> i've made it clear we will hunt down terrorists who threaten our country wherever they are. this is a core principle of my presidency. if you threaten america you will find no safehaven and it is consistent with the approach i outlined this year, to use force against anyone who threatens america's core interests. to mobilize partners wherever possible, to address broader challenges, to international order. >> some of the president's republican critics are calling the strategy a good first step, but they say success will depend on implementing the plan.
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here's what the house speaker john boehner said a while ago about arming syrian rebels. >> an f-16 is not a strategy. and air strikes alone will not accomplish what we're trying to accomplish. and the president's made clear that he doesn't want u.s. boots on the ground. well somebody's boots have to be on the ground. and so i do believe that what the president has asked for, as the commander in chief, is this authority to train these syrian rebels and frankly we ought to give the president what he's asking for. >> we're also hearing strong reaction to the president's isil battle plan from members of the senate. one of president obama's most vocal critics in that chamber, senator john mccain, will support the president on one condition. listen to this. >> if he can convince me, and i'm not yet convinced that it isn't just going to be half measures and he isn't just reacting to polling numbers,
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i'll support him because many of the things he's saying he's doing now is what we have been arguing for, for the last three years. >> the obama administration holding closed door briefings with key members of the house and senate today. officials are expected to lay out what's going to be required of the u.s. military and the intelligence community to carry out this complicated new mission. joining us now live from capitol hill, democratic senator bill nelson of florida. senator, thanks very much for joining us. a quick question. one of the things the president wants is a vote in favor of $500 million, a half a billion dollars to arm and train syrian moderate syrian rebels. will you vote yea or ney on that legislation? >> i will vote yes, and the congress needs not only to do that, but we need to vote to give the authorization for him to use the forces that he's talked about. we need the unity of this government, not only for our
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allies, but for our enemies to understand our unity as well. >> is it smart for the united states to tell isis and other terrorists there will be no u.s. combat forces involved in this effort to destroy you, only air power? >> yes. and the reason is, you can draw the authorization for force by prohibiting rotational forces, that is, large land mass armies, but you still allow the military the flexibility if they need a commando raid, special operations, if they need forward air observers, all of which are boots on the ground, american boots on the ground, in addition to the air strikes, coordinated with a coalition, coordinated with others' boots on the ground, then that's how you bring about the success that we've already seen in northern
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iraq and in the kurdish area. >> so what you're saying is, you do support certain boots on the ground, commandos, special operations forces, people u military person whole will go in there, risk their lives to coordinate air strikes, is that what you're saying? >> of course. you've got to give our military the ability to carry out a successful operation. and it's not just by looking from the air. sometimes you're going to have to go. remember, we've already had boots on the ground when we went in to try to rescue the journalists. that was american boots on the ground. >> why does the president keep saying there will be no u.s. combat boots on the line? the white house line, there will be no combat boots on the ground. sounds like they have a different attitude than you do? >> i don't believe so. he is talking about the big land mass army, the whole-scale invasion into iraq that was
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done. that's what the president doesn't want, that's not what i want, that's not what i think the american people want. >> are there any other coalition partners who will join the u.s. in launching air strikes against isis targets, not only in iraq, but in syria as well? i'm not talking about the iraqi air force. i'm talking about saudi arabia, the uae, turkey, jordan, any of those countries you believe are committed to joining the u.s. and air strikes? >> i just came from secretary hagel, secretary kerry is over in the region right now. they're working full time to put together this coalition. >> so what's the answer? has anybody -- have the audis, they have a huge air force, f-15s, awacs, sophisticated r they committed to launching air strikes? >> i can tell you, wolf, we're definitely going to try to get
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them to do it. now, when it comes to the turks, remember, they've got over 40 hostages held by isis right now. so it's going to be a little more difficult for the turks at this point. >> turkey is a nato ally. you would think they would be on board on an issue like this. i understand there are 40 turkish diplomats taken by isis, but if that's going to prevent turkey from getting involved that will only encourage isis to take diplomats and civilians from other countries if turkey is going to be like that. >> well, i believe at the end of the day that turkey and our other nato partners will be in this. but after all, you've got to give them some leeway right now. >> there was a debate that's generated a lot of commotion on social media between senator mccain and jay carney the former white house press secretary, now a cnn contributor, on this
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inability of the obama administration to get what's called a residual force left in iraq after all u.s. troops pulled out at the end of 2011. listen to a little clip. >> you n your role as a spokesperson, bragged about the fact that the last american combat troop had left iraq. if we had left a residual force the situation would not be what it is today and there would not -- there would be a lot more -- >> senator, i can pause it with great respect for you we disagree on that -- sir, if i may. >> you don't have the facts, mr. carney, that's the problem. >> i understand you present the facts that you believe are true based on the arguments you've made. >> not i believe are true. >> we should leave troops in iraq in perpetuity. >> all right. you're a member of the armed services committee. why wasn't there a few thousand u.s. troops who were left behind, what senator mccain, senator lindsey graham, others say if there had been a u.s. military presence maybe this current crisis could have
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been avoided? >> i think it's time to move on from that. but i will answer your question. i think it's time for us to unify and get on with this new threat. i believe that the administration wanted to keep a residual of troops. it made sense. it's what we're trying to do now in afghanistan as we are about to leave. but, the maliki government, specifically maliki, said no. you see how good a leader he was for the iraqi government. finally he's gone. >> because senator mccain says that maliki would have been ready but it was president obama and the obama administration who really didn't try. they wanted to leave maybe 1,000 or 2,000. maliki says he wanted significantly more, 5,000 to 10,000 u.s. troops remaining and only a thousand or 2,000 wasn't good enough and he wouldn't give
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immunity to u.s. military person whole remained in iraq as part of a new status of forces agreement. what do you say to that? >> it's all evolved around the status of forces agreement, whether or not there would be liability as to the number of troops that we wanted to be left there, i think it was the higher number, not the lower number. >> that's what the u.s. -- i know the military wanted 5 to 10,000. the question is, we'll check this, how much did the obama administration as a whole want to keep there. and you're right, the nuri al maliki refused to provide immunity to any u.s. troops staying. they've changed that. the 1600 troops who are now serving in iraq, they're all wearing boots i should say, the 16 unz u.s. troops now in iraq, they do have immunity from prosecution from iraqi law. that's one of the reasons they are there. but i also agree with you, it's time to look ahead and move on. senator nelson, thanks very much
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for joining us. >> thanks, wolf. president obama's plan to defeat isis presents major challenges to the u.s. military. we're going to take a closer look at the most difficult aspects of the mission. critics worry could backfire on the u.s. that's next. the nation marks the 9/11 anniversary with a new poll. take a look at this, showing growing concern about the threat of another terrorist attack. we'll have details coming up as well.
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(laugh) nice. doing the big things that move an economy. see you tomorrow, mac. see you tomorrow, sam. just another day at norfolk southern. the president's military plan to dismantle and ultimately destroy the terror group isis involves sending at least for now another 475 u.s. military advisors to iraq launching air strikes in iraq and syria. arming and training moderate syrian rebels. let's discuss. joining me retired u.s. army
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lieutenant general michael b barbaro. i want to get to that, but you were there, on active duty in iraq, 2010, 2011 trying to negotiate the status of forces agreement that would have left a residual force, 5 or 10,000 u.s. troops, but you couldn't get immunity from nuri al maliki's government. take us behind the scenes, clarify, who's right, john mccain or jay carney in this debate. >> in the summer of 2010, prepared a briefing responsible for iraqi security forces and took it to all the iraqi leaders, maliki, other shia leaders, sunnis, kurds, said here is going to be the status of your security forces what they cannot do, what they will be able to do, when we schedule to leave and they said you must stay and my response was, you must make it easy for us. i think maliki did not make it easy for us and we did not try hard enough. it's both views. i think it could have been done
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though. >> the pentagon position was, 5,000 to 10,000 troops staying for an indefinite amount of time. >> right. >> you wanted immunity from prosecution. what happened then? the white house says, nuri al maliki wouldn't give that immunity to any residual u.s. force. >> i think we could have worked it and kept it from going through the parliament. we have immunity today that didn't go through the parliament. it could have been worked if we tried harder. >> you don't think the administration tried hard enough? >> i don't think so. >> that's the mccain position, it could have been done but the white house didn't want it to be done. >> i don't think we tried hard enough. >> it was definitely doable. there was another argument that the pentagon wanted 5,000 to 10,000 u.s. troops to remain. >> right. >> the white house said maybe 1,000 or 2,000 for a year and the iraqis said that's not good enough. >> that is true. we wanted them pulled back on the training sites where we're fielding military equipment to train the iraqi, not any combat role at all. >> let's move ahead. sort of clarifies that debate,
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which has resurfaced as i said. is this new plan and you heard senator nelson say he wants boots on the ground, special operations forces, commandos, i believe combat troops, i haven't heard that from the administration yet, have you? >> i have not. that's the question. who is going to be the partner on the ground? it's great that we have increased air strikes into syria, but the decisive effort is on the ground with conventional and special operations forces. and those have not been identified. nor are iraqi security forces or kurdish forces capable at this time. i was in kurdistan a week ago and they are not inclined to do anything other than -- >> they're getting some weapons, but not much. >> it's trickling in and they're frustrated with wait it's coming. >> here what's worries me. you know more about this than i do. the isis, it's not just a bunch of terrorists out there. there's an army. they have a real army, real military professional military officers in a former saddam hussein generals, but also
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senior officers who served in the iraqi army post-saddam hussein who are well trained and i believe many of them were trained by the united states of america that now they're part of isis and they're trying to kill not only kurds and other iraqis, but eventually the u.s. is that true? >> some could have been. i don't have the facts on how many or what, but some very well could have been. >> some of the sunni officers who served in the iraqi military, they hated the shiite led government of nuri al maliki. >> right. >> and they -- you know what they defected to isis not only because they hated nuri al maliki, but because they're going to get a lot more money. this isis group, they have hundreds of millions of -- they may have a few billion dollars that they've stolen from banks in mosul and elsewhere. >> it's a terrorist army. they have an infrastructure, strategy and on the march in syria and iraq. wolf, it was most troubling while they were doing this sweep in june through iraq, they were expanding their operations in syria. they are very capable and they're a serses you threat to
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the region. >> i believe they have a professional officer corps part of a real army, not just a bunch of terrorists who are in control of a chunk of syria and iraq now the size of great britain. >> they are real. >> all right. so there's a major mission that's not going to take a few weeks to resolve this. this is going to go on and on. thanks for all your service. >> thank you. >> as well. still ahead, the comparison the president made as some people questioning his overall strategy. we'll be right back. ♪ eenie. meenie. miney. go. more adventures await in the seven-passenger lexus gx. see your lexus dealer. but i've managed.
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terrorism campaign citing yemen and somalia as successful examples. what are you finding out about that comparison some. >> set off a lot of debate here in washington and elsewhere. first let's take a look at what the president said last night about that very thing. >> will not involve american combat troops fighting on foreign soil. this counterterrorism campaign will be waged through a steady, relentless effort to take out isil wherever they exist using our air power and support for partner forces on the ground. this strategy of taking out terrorists who threaten us while supporting partners on the front lines is one that we have successfully pursued in yemen and somalia for years. >> the somalia piece, some people are agreeing with because al shabaab in somalia has been degraded, their leader just killed. you can probably separate that and find agreement there, but some ap lists and others are saying when you look at yemen, some people believe really you
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cannot call that a success. senator marco rubio said that, others are saying that today, mainly because al qaeda in the arabian peninsula, aqap, is still a resilient, viable, terrorist organization that can till threaten the united states and put bombs on planes. their leade eer is still alive. their master bomb maker is still alive. that's the guy who successfully put bomb abouts on planes bound for the united states while the al qaeda in the arabian peninsula has been attacked by the army and u.s. drones and decimated in some areas they've shown resilience and been able to push into other areas and keep the capability alive. that's a question as to whether yemen is a real success. >> the other criticism of the president, you're comparing appsles and oranges in a sense. al qaeda in the arabian peninsula in yemen, al shabaab in somalia but these are terrorist groups, bands, they don't control a whole lot of land.
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they don't have tank, armored personnel carriers, they don't have an officer corps, an army, and they don't have hundreds of millions of dollars like isis has, which controls a huge amount of territory in syria and iraq and they've got a military, a terrorist army, that they're in charge of with sews fis cated officer corps. >> those are key differences. in areas where isis controls you don't have a government necessarily, especially the u.s. is about to go into syria with this, you don't have a government cooperating with you. in yemen and somalia you have governments cooperating with you, with the united states. that's another difference. isis has a better capability to fight on the ground than those two groups have and in yemen and in somalia to a lesser degree, you have governments that are putting their forces on the ground cooperating with you. you're not going to have that had in syria. >> the syrian government, the u.s. wants to get rid of. the bashar al assad regime. >> we'll see you later at 5:00 p.m. eastern.
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arab countries are rallying behind this new fight led by the united states against isis. ten countries agreed to do their part. that's a direct quote from a communique that has been issued include bahrain, egypt, iraq, jordan, kuwait, lebanon, oman, qatar, saudi arabia and the uae. the secretary of state john kerry is currently on a mission to try to build arab support in the region for the u.s. strategy. the latest statement came at the end of a meeting between secretary kerry and arab counterparts in saudi arabia. secretary travels to cairo on sunday. last night we heard the president's plan to target isis and now the ball at least part of it is in congress' court. should members be forced to take a vote, cast a vote, take a stand. our political insiders are standing by to break it down. and a somber anniversary amid new worries about a new terrorist attack. the latest on security concerns as america remembers the victims of 9/11. ♪
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2011, a decade after the attacks. cnn's poppy harlow is joining us from new york. what are you hearing from federal officials about these terrorism concerns around today's anniversary? >> >> sure. good afternoon, wolf. we'll be talking to them this morning in lower manhattan around the anniversary, the memorial service, for the 13th year following that 9/11 attack. there is no specific threat from isis to this country right now. we've been told that time and time again by the administration. also the nypd commissioner telling me there's no specific threat against new york city at this point in time. that said, everything that is a potential target is being monitored closely like the brooklyn bridge behind me in the back drop of that 1 world trade center. you saw a lot of police officers out on the streets today but the focus here has been on those nearly 3,000 lives lost on that day, all of the family members grieving in their own way, some
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at the ceremony, others grieving privately. i did have a chance this morning to speak with homeland security secretary jay johnson and asked him, are the american people getting the message that you and the president are trying to send, specifically about isis. listen. >> what we've said is that there is no specific intelligence of a plot by isil to attack the homeland at the moment. but that does not end the story to the homeland. >> no imminent threat now. >> we know of no specific intelligence, of a plot by isil to attack our homeland, but again, that's not the end of the story. isil is a very dangerous organization that has demonstrated a willingness to kill americans because they are americans. >> and he reiterated to me, wolf, when you hear -- if you see something say something. he said that is more than just a slogan. that is critical because what he
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did talk about, things like the boston marathon attack, part of our concern is the domestic based potential for a terror attack front and center right now. >> you spoke with the new york city police commissioner about security in new york. what did he say? what is the department doing to keep the city of new york safe? >> well, it's interesting, wolf, he said they have more than 7,000 cameras in lower manhattan alone just monitoring that part. he talked about how you are at this point not able to drive in or out of new york city at any point without having your license plate recorded. he said look we are constantly trying to stay on top of the things that they, terrorists, may be developing in terms of the types of bombs that they can be developing. they have more than 1,000 nypd officers simply assigned to anti-terrorism task force and many more of them in other divisions. they are watching with their eye, ears, from the water here, from the air and with a whole
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lot of cameras their eyes on new york city today. >> let's hope it stays very, very quiet. let's hope it does indeed. thanks, poppy, for that report. still ahead our next guest served multiple tours in iraq. congressman adam kin zinger. he's standing by to discuss the president's new plan to destroy isis. while every business is unique,
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we will send an additional 475 service members to iraq. as i've said before, these american forces will not have a combat mission. we will not get dragged into another ground war in iraq. but they are needed to support iraqi and kurdish forces with training, intelligence, and equipment. >> president obama there announcing a major shift in policy to defeat isis. now he supports air strikes,
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u.s. air strikes, against isis targets not only in iraq but in syria as well. in addition to arming moderate syrian rebels, sending more military advisors to iraq at the same time. let's bring in congressman adam kinzinger of illinois, a republican member of the house foreign affairs committee. thanks very much for joining us. >> thanks, wolf. thanks for having me. >> i know you served in iraq. i think you served in iraq as well. are you with the commander in chief when he made those announcements last night? >> yeah. i am. it was surprisingly strong statement from a president not known for making strong statements. there were a few points i kind of could contend with, but at the end of the day i think he laid out to the american people the danger that isis is. he laid out his view for the fact that they need to be rolled back and eventually eradicated and while i disagree taking boots off the ground i don't think we need to introduce them today. without boots on the ground the only opportunity to make gains in syria will be with arming the free syrian army and that's
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going to take quite a while, a long time to train these folks, to vet these folks, and rebuild an army great three years ago but has been battered by the assad regime and isis forces. this is probably the best of a lot of bad choices but i'll be voting to give the commander in chief his authority to be commander in chief. >> will you vote to provide the $500 million he's seeking to train and arm those moderate syrian rebels? snifl' vote for what the president needs to accomplice this mission. there's hopes a lot of partners in the middle east will help with the funding as they should and other areas they can help including providing housing for the training facilities here. the thing to keep in mind under this plan this is going to be a pretty long-term struggle. hopefully some intense bombing of isis in the open begins, that pins them where they're at currently, restricts their freedom of movement and ability to spread into other areas and the first front to offensively
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take back from isis will be in iraq with a new and invigorated iraqi military and the peshmerga. we are looking at a multiyear war and i hope the people are patient for it. anything short of destroying this group will lead to many problems in the future. >> are you confident this new emerging iraqi government will be any better than nuri al maliki's government which turned out to be a disaster? >> i'm more optimistic of it, but obviously it's new and there's a lot that remains to be seen. it's a government that understand jus to include minorities in it. there is significant room for sunnis that will have to be a lot of time for that government to make up what the sunni population and hope they join in our fight. the folks that supported us in the sunni wakening, join in the fight to liberate isis. so yeah, there's a lot of caution, but let's be optimistic. seems like the iraqis understood their existence is putting their differences aside. >> when you served in iraq and you're an iraq combat veteran, where in iraq did you serve?
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where were you based? >> i was out of ba lat air force base and flew reconnaissance missions around iraq. it was interesting i was there once in '08 really when the surge was taking hold and then also when in '09 and the difference between '08 and '09 astounding. '09 watching the city and see kids playing soccer and life returned to normal. it's disheartening to me to see iraq having fallen apart. i'm critical of the president's decision to withdraw troops but more focused on where we need to go from here forward and doing what we need to do to secure that area and give people hope. >> i remember i visited balat air base in 2005 with general abizaid the central commander and a robust u.s. base, a lot of u.s. fighter aircraft, a lot of u.s. military personnel. i believe and i could be wrong, maybe you know better, i believe isis now controls balat. do you know if that's true? >> what i know is they were on
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the gates of it. they may be in control of it now. which blows me away to think about. i remember sleeping there at night feeling safe and i never imagined you would have anybody like isis or, you know, an al qaeda type affiliate walking where i was sleeping at. it's sad. and that was one base frankly we should have hung on to post-2011, but today it's much different situation and pretty sad. >> so looking back, and i remember when i was in mosul, mosul the second largest city in iraq, now under the control of isis, the whole war, going back to 2003 a blunder? >> we could argue was the intelligence there for wmd, we could argue there were no wmd there, argue the issue of how did we fight the war, we should have had more troops and post-governing plan and not let the regime fall apart sending everybody home, should have kept people employed, but we got it right. we got it right by 2011 and the problem is we left.
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i saw, you know, victory in iraq. it's sad to see where we are today, but again i'm focused on here we are now, what do we need to do moving forward and i think this is the beginning, what the president laid out is the beginning of resecuring that. it's again g to take a long time. >> congressman, thanks very much for joining us. and thanks for your service as well. >> you bet. thanks, wolf. thanks for having me. >> president obama ran for election on ending the war in iraq. now he's expanding america's military role in the middle east. our political insiders standing by will break down all of these developments when we come back. the eyes may be the windows to the soul. but in the case of the lexus ls... ...which eyes? eyes that pivot with the road... ...that can see what light misses... ...eyes designed to warn when yours wander... or ones that can automatically bring the ls to a complete stop. all help make the unseen... ...seen. and make the ls perhaps the most visionary vehicle on the road.
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the 21st century. america will lead a broad coalition to roll back this terrorist threat. if you threaten america, you will find no safe haven. >> i just heard a few clips how the president has been forced to change his strategy. this hour you heard from two members of congress, now asked to support the latest white house plan. let's bring our political insiders an opportunity to weigh in. joining us our chief analyst gloria borrower, our chief congressional correspondent dana bash and jane harman the ranking member of the house intelligence committee, now the pfts of the wilson center, a think tank in washington. the president really has been forced to change his rhetoric if you will over the last several weeks, why? >> well, he's -- >> simply the video of these two americans beheaded. >> i think that was part of it but isil is expanding territory, membership, and ambition and it's a social media campaign is
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relentless and better than any countercampaign against it. so it's a bigger challenge. as commander in chief he has to protect our country and the circumstances are different. >> would he be doing this, gloria, if there had not been videos of two americans being executed? >> i think public opinion would not have shifted as dramatically and in this case the president's actually -- public opinion was there before the president was. the larger irony is he didn't want to be giving this speech last night. he came into office as the peace president, the president who got us out of two wars, who killed osama bin laden, and now part of his legacy is this messy situation in syria and in iraq that isn't going to get finished by the time his presidency is done. >> he's getting bipartisan support on capitol hill though, dana. >> he is for sure, because they realize even republicans that people who are the most against him politically, realize we are where we are. they were against the idea of taking all of the troops out of iraq but it happened and now the
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goal is to stabilize and confront isis which is why you heard from the house speaker, i was on capitol hill in the last hour, he was very much supportive of at least in the short term giving the president the authority he needs to train these syrian -- >> kinzinger say the same thing -- >> i think this is an opportunity for the president to pull the country together. >> what dz he need to do? >> he needs to do what he did this week, reach out to congress, not just the leadership, he actually called some members of congress, like mike rogers yesterday, and then to pitch this effective to the country which he did last night and now to build the coalition. he's helping to build in the arab world, ten countries meeting in saudi arabia, prepared to act on borders and money and training. that's not everything, but it's a huge change. and president obama not now, let's hope he stays sober and focused, but at some future time, his legacy may show that finally after six years, he was
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able to exercise tools he didn't know how to exercise. >> with >> with congress' approval rating at 14% -- it's high -- this is also i would argue an opportunity for congress to have a serious discussion, a serious debate about this and even though it's close to an election, i know you are shaking your head. even though it's close -- >> they're going to punt. >> i'm not sure they're going to punt. they're the ones with the responsibility to declare war. i don't think president obama has to ask them and increasing number of people inside congress, including some of us outside congress, think it's irresponsible. >> i just literally in the last hour asked the house speaker that very question. he has said, yes, they'll give the president this narrow authority. that's the only thing the president asked for. >> he asked for $500 billion to arm the syrian rebels. will they pass that legislation? >> it's money but more importantly it's the authorization and legal backing to do this. the bigger question is if the
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president has given this big speech as he did last night about this incredibly horrible situation that the white house and the administration has to go forward on, why not ask congress for help? and so the house speaker to your point -- >> why shouldn't congress volunteer it? >> i asked him that question. traditionally the way this happens, the white house asks. i said but you're a branch of government can't you do it? reading between the lines they'll work on this but not before next year. >> only two weeks until they go into recess. >> they could extend their time at work. i think this should be an election issue. i think voters should measure their members by whether they stepped up or not. and obama has said he would welcome this initiative. i think he was burned, weren't we all, by the 2011 experience. syria. that's what i meant. 2013 experience. congress may be incapable of this. why not challenge congress.
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>> i think their constituents out to say to them we want you to take a position. we'll be able to judge for ourselves. >> in the end whether or not there are combat boots on the ground, u.s. military personnel are going into harm's way. they will be in endangered and congress has a responsibility in this area. >> there's a financial cost to all this. it won't be off budget again. >> we have more to discuss. we aren't done with this discussion. senator ted cruz gets booed and walks off the stage last night here in washington. we'll tell you what happened.
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we're back now. let's talk about senator ted cruz. he was my best in "the situation room" last night. we had this exchange.
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listen to this. >> i certainly want there to be a different president from a different party who changes the path this country is on. i think the obama economy is a disaster. millions of people are hurting. i think the obama clinton foreign policy is not working. as we can see when america receded from leadership in the world and we have led from behind, the result is much of the world is on fire. >> sounds like you think of running against hillary clinton. >> i will tell you what i am thinking about is i think 2016 will be the most important election of my lifetime and your lifetime. it will be a fork in a road where americans will decide do we want to continue this failed path that isn't working or do we want to get back to the principles this country was built on that made america the greatest country in the history of the world. >> sounds like a yes. >> time will tell. >> i had asked him if he wants to be the next president of the united states and he immediately starts talking about the obama/clinton foreign policy. he raises the issue of maybe the
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democratic nominee in 2016. >> i have a very sophisticated word to use. duh. he's running for president. i've been down to texas and in 18 months he's been in senate and not because he's a fascinating senator, it's because we know he'll be one of the key people planning to run for president. >> can i say something about three republicans who were first-term senators who might run for president all of whom criticize lack of experience of barack obama as a first-term senator that ran for president. >> after he was in "the situation room" last night, he went to a conference here in washington. middle easterners trying to protect christians in danger in iraq. he was giving a speech. he got booed when he said something about israel. >> i will say this. if you will not stand with israel, then i will not stand
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with you. thank you. god bless you. >> he was saying israel is a friend of christians in the middle east and i guess some of the people there are christians from the middle east, palestinians, others weren't very happy. they started booing him and he walked off. >> i understand why he walked off. it's sad it was an intolerant audience. the fact is that christians, jews arabs, persians need to co-exist in the middle east. >> christians are deeply endangered right now. >> isis is an anti-muslim group. let's understand that. most of the people they killed are muslim. if you don't conform to their idea, you're dead. that's hugely dangerous and good that the arab nations have signed up today to join the coalition willingly. >> you heard the president open by saying the islamic state is not islamic and not a state.
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>> i think to give ted cruz some credit here, he obviously felt this was a group that was being anti-semitic to a degree and he couldn't reason with them and get his point of view across. he wanted to tell them what he thought and he got booed out of the stage. >> it wasn't necessarily all of the people there. a few people were heckling them. >> if you want to run for president, you have to take a punch. >> that's a good point. it was a way to make his point. >> they were very loud. it was hard for him to make his point. he put out a statement late last night saying he is sorry there were a few people bigoted and intolerant and he's not wrong. >> thanks very much. we'll continue our conversation. certainly watch ted cruz down fair to say he's going to run for the presidential nomination. he made that clear when he raised the name hillary clinton in response -- you think hillary
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is running too. >> only she knows. >> i'm use dana's duh. >> that's it for me. i'll be back at 5:00 eastern in "the situation room." "newsroom" with randi kaye starts right now. good afternoon, everyone. i'm randi kaye in for brooke baldwin. america's arab allies joining the strategy that president obama outlined last night. secretary of state john kerry working in saudi arabia to get everybody on the same page. onboard with the plan, listen to this list. saudi arabia, egypt, jordan, lebanon, turkey, iraq, kuwait, bahrain, qatar, united arab emirates and all have agreed to a coordinated military plan against isis and stronger support for the new government of iraq. the countries agree to join the united states in cutting off money and fighters