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a terror plot in australia was thwarted. what we understand is isis sympathizers were planning to find a random member of the public and behead them to send an obvious message this is going on as president obama is trying very hard to win over congress and you in his plan to combat isis. president obama and secretary of state john kerry doubled down in their simple truth that no u.s. combat troops will be on the ground in iraq and syria. take a listen. >> as your commander-in-chief, i will not commit you and the rest of our armed forces to fighting another ground war in iraq. >> just as clear is that who is strong enough and willing enough to fight isis except the u.s. is getting more and more difficult to answer. the president's plan to go after isis in syria did get a boost. it got a green light from the house. but you have to take a look at the numbers. 71 democrats, members of his own
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party, didn't vote with him. they refused to back the bill and the obvious rationale is they don't trust treat syrian army. they don't think it is an army and they don't believe you can trust the rebels and that means the plan won't work. san grant is going to start off our coverage from australia. because we want to figure out what happened with this terror plot that was thwarted. >> what we've seen here is being described as the biggest anti-terror raid ever in australian history around 800 police involved in new south wales, australia's biggest city, sydney and brisbane, in queensland, we've been told by police that 15 people have been detained, some of those resisting arrest. one man has been charged and will appear in court. the allegation here that these people were planning a terrorist attack. being described as a random attack against a member of the public, to be carried out on the streets of sydney. now all of this comes as the
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terror warning in australia has been increased from medium, which would have been a possible attack, to high, which is a likely attack. now, new counterterrorism laws have been announced as well and there's been increased funding to try to deal with the threat of terrorism here in australia. prime minister tony abbott is particularly concerned with the number of australians, the scores of australians, who have gone to iraq and syria, to join the fight with islamic state. >> our thanks to stan grant. you have to remember the key phrase there is "isis sympathizers." the concern obviously social media and recruiting spreading a message of hate that's being picked up around the world. >> let's keep our focus on isis and head back to d.c. and the house vote on the fight against isis. erin mcpike has more on this from washington, what have we learned this morning? >> the president met with 20 high-level members of his national security team yesterday
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afternoon as they refined the strategy to deal with the threat of foreign terrorists. now that house vote yesterday was a small, but symbolic victory for the white house. but questions are piling up on bod sides of the aisle. showing growing doubt that the national security strategy can be effective. president obama commending members of congress. >> the amendment is adopted. >> for approving one piece of his strategy in the war against isis. >> i want to start off by saying thank you to house members, republican and democrat, who came together today to pass an important component on our strategy for dealing with the terrible terrorist organization known as isil. >> a rare show of bipartisan support in the house. though 71 democrats broke ranks with the president. >> what in the world are we doing? instead of rushing into yet another war, flooding the region
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with more weapons and intervening further in a civil war, congress should be pressing the pause button. >> joining 85 republicans in rejecting the measure. >> i will not vote for something that i know will not work. arming islamists to fight other islamists is not a winning strategy. >> the president urging the senate to follow the house's lead. >> no more war. >> on the other side of the capitol, secretary of state john kerry facing a grilling, insisting the syrian rebels require american support in lieu of actual troops. >> senator mccain knows it, he's been screaming about it for some time. >> we've all been screaming about it and have done nothing or not much to talk about. >> any mission against isis is achievable without a dedicated ground presence as the president promises. >> it seems to me the administration has placed many, many, caveats on what we will not do. and our military leaders have urged you to put special forces
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on the ground, but no, we're not going to do that. so this doesn't even seem serious. >> just one day after joint chiefs chairman, general martin dempsey opened the door to a possible ground presence, president obama coming face to face with troops on macdill air force base doubled down on this promise to them in the fight against isis. >> the american forces that have been deployed to iraq do not and will not have a combat mission. they will support iraqi forces on the ground. as they fight for their own country against these terrorists. >> now, white house press secretary, josh earnest also clarified dempsey's remarks even further yesterday in a briefing on air force one saying he meant officials in advisory roles might need to embed with iraqis in combat, but they wouldn't be personally engaging the enemy in combat. >> erin pike from washington.
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i want to continue this with robin wright, a middle east analyst from the woodrow wilson international institute for scholars. let's start with erin left off, that the white house seems to continue to want to clarify that they believe there's no distinction, no difference, no daylight between what the president has said, very often, no combat troops on the ground and what general dempsey was saying. we heard from secretary kerry yesterday, right in line with the president. they seem to be trying to draw a bright line between a combat mission and being in combat. is that a difference, is that a distinction without a difference? is that a difference without a distinction? >> i think the whole operation is still evolving and they're operation building a lot of options for the most. they don't want to put in combat troops, but they want to put in advisers, maybe the advisers have to move out of baghdad, closer to the front lines. it looks a little blurry at the moment it may take some time to figure out what role the advisers play on the ground. the idea i think is not to put
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enormous numbers of ground troops on the front lines again. >> is it a problem for the white house, the administration, not domestically, even though it is important, but also when the world is watching, that the message seems to be muddled? where are we going and are we all on the same page? >> i think it's a problem not just in the united states, but around the world as they look at the role of the united states and the broader coalition, who is going to contribute? what roles are they going to play? it's all very vague, i call it a house of cards coalition, you have a very kind of wood frame without the support beams, the furnishings, the floor plan much less the financing. and i think the united states as americans look at another third war in 25 years in iraq, there's a little bit of confusion about not only what are we exactly going to do on the ground for how long in iraq. but then there's phase two, the big question, the much more murky question is what happens when we try to beat the islamic
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state out of syria. which is a whole different operation. >> let's talk about that. the house voted on bipartisan basis, yesterday, to approve arming and training the rebels. that means there was bipartisan opposition to the vote as well. the senate is expected to pass it. has the president, has secretary kerry, has the administration made a convincing enough argument that arming the rebels will work? >> i don't think so. i think there's, there is the dilemma they face. if you're going to take on isis, if you cross the threshold of getting involved, can you stop at iraq? and the danger is -- no, if you really believe you need to degrade and destroy it, you have to move beyond the frontier and move it back toe its origins. otherwise you're just containing it. if they can withdraw to syria, still be a threat, no the just to iraq, but to everybody else in the region. they can still attract more foreign fighters, they can be a very destabilizing force, long-term in the region. so the challenge is, what do you do? and if we're not going to put
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ground troops, then you support rebels. the problem is the rebels have not yet proven they can do very much of anything. at least the ones we're prepared to support. >> we heard that a lot in the senate hearing yesterday, i heard that over and over again from senator bob corker. who he says i have been a supporter of arming the rebels for a very long time. but at this point what is the free syrian army? does it exist? is this group that the president says is a group of farmers and doctors that are just coming together, it was a fantasy they were going to make a difference -- can we trust them? >> can we trust that they'll be able to hold onto the equipment that we, the iraqi army, which has been trained by the united states, wasn't able to hold on to the sophisticated equipment. what are the prospects of these, farmers and pharmacists are going to be able to hold on to the equipment? if it's going to take three years to retrain the iraqi army which we've already retrained, how long will it take to train the syrian rebel force? >> how much time realistically do you think they have to train
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the rebels? what do you think is the timeline that they can realistically be working with? >> i doubt they have a timeline, i suspect they're talking about an initial round of training to get people on the ground, to be more dynamic, to take on whether it's isis or the syrian government. i think this is a long-term operation, this is a war that could last as long as the one we've already fought in iraq and potentially for longer. >> far beyond the three years that have been forecast in recent weeks. i want to get your take, the new prime minister to iraq has been commended by the administration as bringing together a more inclusive government in iraq. the good first step of bringing about the political reconciliation that they've been looking for. but in an interview with the "associated press," he made very clear that he does not want foreign fighters on the ground in iraq. saying very simply, and we'll put up part of the interview with the "associated press," not only is it not necessarily, we don't want them, we won't allow them. full stop. >> he's talking about united states forces, u.s. ground forces or others.
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>> well particularly after the u.s. intervention the last time around and the way we left iraq, frankly. that to be legitimate the government knows it needs to be the one to be seen to run the operation, to coordinate what happens and to be the one whose forces are fighting. the problem in iraq is, because the iraqi army, half of the iraqi army isn't effective enough to fight. >> we heard that from general dempsey. >> exactly and the other half needs to be retrained. in the meantime, there's three shiite militias that are loyal to iran, the peshmerga, the kurds in the north, will be fighting. the danger down the road you may find you have the emergence of war lordism -- >> is the united states going to work directly with the shia militias? >> well whether the advisers work with them -- remember, we're getting into the murky territory. the irony is the united states and iran are now the two most dynamic players when it comes to advising and aiding the iraqis
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to retake their own territory. >> a complex situation to say the very least, robin wright, great to see you, robin. coming up later, we're going to be talking to a key member of the free syrian army, the rebel group that robin and i were just talking about. the rebel group that the united states may soon be arming and training. you'll want to hear that interview, it will be the first perspective on what's going on with the free syrian army. we want to tell you this morning about the nfl. the hits keep coming for the league. breaking overnight, another star running back, this time arizona's jonathan dwyer, deactivated after his arrest on domestic violence charges. police pulling him off the team's practice field. this, after the minnesota vikings bans star running back adrian peterson until his child abuse case is resolved. and the carolina panthers banned star lineman greg hardy. he had been playing. his situation now is going to be frozen until his appeal from a domestic violence conviction is
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figured out by the system. nischelle turner is here with the latest. at least with the newest case, the league took action immediately that just, isolates the player until the truth is figured out by the system. >> indeed and that is a good point. we could look at that as progress. but chris, with everything going on and the spotlight squarely on player conduct and domestic violence in the nfl, seemingly the last thing people expected was to wake up news to yet of another player arrested for domestic violence against a woman. >> it's dwyer, he's in. >> this morning, jonathan dwyer, a running back for the arizona cardinals, now in custody. the football star is the sixth nfl player making headlines for alleged abuse in the past few days. dwyer arrested at the cardinals' training facility. stemming from a slew of alleged abuse beginning in late july, including one count of aggravated assault against a 27-year-old female, causing a
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fracture. and another involving his 18-month-old child. >> he has been interviewed by our detectives. he has admitted involvement in the incidents. however, has denied allegations of physical assault. >> police say during one incident, he threw a shoe at the 18-month-old. then tossed a cell phone of the female victim out a window, preventing her from calling police. the cardinals say they have taken the immediate step to deactivate jonathan from all team activities. >> jonathan dwyer, who had the touchdown -- >> half a dozen nfl players across the country are now facing domestic violence charges. >> there's no rule book for this, guys. >> wednesday, carolina panthers defensive end greg hardy took a voluntary paid leave of absence after being convicted for domestic violence. in may, authorities say hardy choked his then-girlfriend, dragged her by her hair into a tub and threatened to kill her. the panthers star has asked for a new trial.
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>> we played a mistake. and we needed to get this right. >> the minnesota vikings deactivating running back adrian peterson, facing a child abuse charge. retracting from an earlier decision to keep him in the game after sponsors voiced their outrage. many of peterson's teammates say he should stay on the field. >> growing up, that was nothing, man, my mom, she always whipped me up or and things like that, man. just -- you know, in my culture, that's how i was raised, that's how my mom, she raised her kids, like i said, man, look at me now, i'm in the nfl. >> this is the argument we've heard continuously from a number of players about the adrian peterson case, we heard from some of his teammates yesterday, who were either hesitant to talk or they backed adrian fully. everyone seemed very uncomfortable. as some former and current players why it was so hard for people to take a stand, nfl players to take a stand. they said it's a hard thing to talk about and no one wants to
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look like they're turning on their teammate. chris? >> it is a difficult situation, that's why you need leadership and it has to come from the league. later we'll speak exclusively with adrian peterson's close friend and former coach. mick? a look at your headlines. mounting concerns about the suspected pennsylvania cop killer, who is still on the run. police are concerned that eric matthew frein may target more officers. frein was active in a military simulation unit, the reenacted cold war era european conflicts, corporal byron dickson was killed in friday's ambush. he was laid to rest yesterday. in missouri where ferguson police officer darren wilson has appeared before a grand jury. wilson testified for close to four hours wednesday about the fatal shooting of unarmed teenager michael brown last month. officer wilson was not required to appear, but reports from the hearing say he was cooperative. brown's death, as you know,
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sparked weeks of sometimes violent protests and calls for wilson to be indicted. toronto mayor rob ford set to undergo aggressive chemotherapy after he was diagnosed with a rare form of cancer. doctors say a tumor in ford's abdomen turned out to be a malignant lipo sarcoma. the treatment is aimed at shrinking the tumor. doctors say they're optimistic. earlier this week ford said he was dropping his re-election bid. >> a sad twist in a sad, sad story. thanks, michaela. it's judgment day as the scots go to the polls to vote on independence. both sides mounting a last-minute push for votes. christian amanpour will be joining us live from edinburgh. we spoke to a former commander of the free syrian army. you're going do want to hear what he has to say about whether or not they need america to beat back isis.
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ould overturn vote on hundreds of years of history. america's chief ally could be torn into two pieces. even the union jack, the flag is in danger. despite last-minute push from both sides, the contest remains far too close to call. so let's bring in christiane amanpour, cnn's chief international correspondent, monitoring the situation. we hear that turnout could be very, very high. but you tell us, christiane, how does it feel on the ground? >> from all reports, it is pretty brisk here. and of course they do expect a turnout of some 80%. the kind of turnout that would make people envious, politicians in the united states envious. there is a 97% voter registration that's happened here. it is really extraordinary, it gives you a sense of just how critical this is. just how engaged everyone is. and as you say of course, it is on a knife edge. now the obviously the nationalists, scottish national party, the pro independents, people say this is our moment,
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this is our destiny. this is our chance to be independent and run our own affairs. the no campaign, the unionists, those who want to stay part of great britain, are saying look, it is much better, it is much stronger together. be prepared for at least a decade of economic uncertainty and economic hardship as the very painful transition goes through. but no matter what happens, even if it's a no vote, even if it's to keep the united kingdom together, there will be a lot of change. former prime minister gordon brown spelled it out. he told me it's inevitably going to be much less central control. >> britain can no longer think of itself as a centralized state, a unitary state of undiluted westminster sovereignty, that's changed and in some sense we're moving closing towards the american model of government and models of government that we see whether it's very considerable decentralization. canada, australia, germany. very big decentralization in
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these countries, i think that's the model we'll see in the future. >> now, that is quite dramatic, the first time we've heard them say that great britain, the united kingdom, could end up looking like america in terms of its politics. very, very interesting. one thing to note, it's been very bitter. even nasty in some cases over the last several days between the two camps. most famous brit, who is a scot, is andy murray, probably in terms of sports. andy murray who said today on a tweet that the negative campaign by the no is swaying him and he's used the independents' language of, "let's do this." he's been swayed. on the other hand there's a campaign of intimidation that we hear by the independence people. we've seen a major british political reporter booed out of a rally. we saw a major british party leader run out of a campaign appearance here this week. it is, it is quite nasty as the
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campaigning ended and now the voting has begun. chris? >> christiane help us out here. people will recognize that scots are known for fighting spirit. the last time most in the u.s. thought about scots and independence, they were watching the movie "braveheart" and it was mel gibson running around. why is this happening, especially now? >> well look, i think that this was an inevitable process after devolution. in 1997, then-labor prime minister tony blair started this process, scotland got its first independent parliament. scotland right now is able to run its own health service and that is one of the key platforms in this campaign. we want to protect our own health service. it's jealously guarded over here. they do run it. they have budgetary control and policy control. and this is the dream of the first minister, the nationalist leader, alex salmon. but on the other hand, there is a lot to be said for keeping the union together.
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because on every level, it will weaken the component parts of the united kingdom. economically, certainly, economists have said that about scotland. but as regards the united states, its ally, great britain, will be different. will be perhaps weakened. what will happen to britain's nuclear deterrent, that keeps it in nato? all of these are massive, massive questions that the critics of the nationalist independence campaign say have not been properly answered. not to mention, they don't have an answer to currency right now. >> reading into it, it seems that there's some fundamental economic concerns on the part of the scots, they feel they're giving more than they get. to turn it to selfish aims and means here, why should the u.s. care what happens over there? >> the united states cares because a, there are a lot of americans of scottish descent, that's one personal care. but obviously the united states cares because great britain has been the u.s. main ally,
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trusting, trustworthy, strong ally for decades and decades, there is something called that special relationship, it's not an accident. it's not a romantic term of art. it is because on every issue, the united states stands shoulder to shoulder with great britain. and great britain for the u.s. leads overseas and gathers, helps gather coalitions and all sorts of other historic bonds that tie the two together. >> christiane amanpour, thank you so much, please keep us apprised of the progress on this vote. we'll be watching. always great to have you on "new day." now to her point, one of the places that the u.s. and britain are really tied to the hip is on isis. right now congress is about to approve the president's plan to arm and train the free syrian army. they're going to be the boots on the ground. now, is that going to work? is it a good idea? you're going to get a unique perspective from the free syrian army itself. you're going to get to hear what one of their former commanders
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fight against ice isis. some republicans criticized the strategy for not going far enough, insisting that combat troops will be needed to defeat the terror organization. the senate is expected to pass the measure today. a senior veterans administration official admitted wednesday that delays in health care led to deaths of patients at the va medical center in phoenix. this admission came after harsh questioning in a hearing before the house veterans affairs committee. this testimony is a reversal from an agency report released in august that said it found no link between patient deaths and delays in medical service. cnn first reported that, dozens of veterans had died while waiting for appointments at that va medical center. florida state quarterback jameis winston has been suspended for the first half of saturday's game against clemson. it comes after he was caught repeatedly shouting an obscene sexual phrase on campus this week. just the latest off-the-field trouble for the heisman winner who is accused of sexual assault
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and theft in the last year. winston has now apologized for the latest incident. police releasing new surveillance video that they say shows university of virginia student hanna graham on the night she disappeared. i want you to take a look at this can you see her off in the distance. a man is following her in a separate video released, police say you can see the same man following her. graham texted a friend she was lost after she left an off-campus party alone early saturday morning. she has not been heard from since. vice president joe biden proving to be an equal opportunity offender in iowa. presumably exploring a run for president, during a 24-hour span, the vice president offended jews by using the word "shylock." and his use of the word orient to describe asia offended many asian-americans and others. the vice president left the door open to u.s. combat troops in iraq. a contradiction to the president's position. oh, joe.
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>> in biden-land, we call that the trifecta. just to give him a benefit of the doubt. are we sure it was a shakespeare reference? >> in all seriousness, it was not a shakespeare reference, but the anti-defamation league came out to say he is a strong supporter of t supporter. >> his candor works for him more than against. he says how he feels, that's unusual for politicians. >> very rare to see that, a teachable moment. >> i have them what, about every 17 seconds? >> 16.5. >> not giving him the benefit of the doubt, michaela. there can be more flooding we're going to be looking at coming from the remnants, not just the hurricane, the recommend nanlts of what was hurricane odile. >> meteorologist indra petersons
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is taking a look at that. >> odile making its way up through lubbock, texas. this is the southwest, it's dry. only one inch of rain is all it took to see this flooding. the concern is still high today. easy to see there's plenty more moisture still fueling the area. we're talking about anywhere of up to five to seven inches of rain. especially out towards houston. looking at the flooding concern and threat pushing farther east. if you're down to the southeast conditions are improving for you today as the stationary front made its way offshore. we may be looking at a few showers around miami. temperatures where they should be. you're loving this in the southeast. drying out for about a day or so. into the northeast there's a cold front as well. this one is pretty dry. when you're barely talking about a few spotty showers that are going to be out there, you'll notice a little dip in the temperatures, you're going to see your highs, new york city going from 76 to 65, boston down to the 50s and if you're high upstate, keep in mind we're
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talking about frost advisories by tomorrow morning. the temperatures in the 20s. that comes -- a place called canada. i'm going to send you back, michaela, if that keeps happening. >> did you say 20s? >> upstate new york. >> good thing we're not going to connecticut any time soon. >> the upper peninsula of michigan is when we start looking up there. we can stay up there for a while. >> you said you were going to canneta, you meant turks and caicos. mick is from canada, that's why it's funny. she's going to go home and see her family. the house of representatives making news, why? green-lighting help for rebels battling isis in syria. they're really battling the assad regime. the question is -- are these rebels ready to take on anyone let alone an isis that seems to be growing stronger by the moment. we're going to speak with a former general from the free syrian army.
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welcome back to "new day." the obama administration insists no u.s. boots will be on the ground in the fight against isis. who is going to fight? right now, the theory is, we'll get the armies of the arab world to contend with the terrorists. not really happening, except this one group of rebel fighters in syria called the free syrian army. they're already engaged in heavy battle against the assad regime and frankly, it's not going that well. so yesterday the house voted to approve the plan, which they did, to arm and train this group. or this group of groups, okay? so the decision is raising eyebrows because of what i just said. instead of talking about them, we decided to talk to them so you can get a better understanding. we got an interview with a man named general salim idris, he was voted out of the chain of command of the free syrian army for suggesting working with
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america against isis, okay? so use that as your starting point. here's what he had to say about the state of the fsa and whether or not it is ready to beat back isis. >> as we speak, general, we're getting reports in that isis has taken control of over a dozen new villages in eastern syria. isn't this a sign that right now isis is just too powerful for the fsa? >> it is true that isis is controlling now the eastern region, which is the a large part of the suburbs and this is very dangerous. we think it is very important for us as fsa to get rid of isis, because they are working in cooperation with the regime. >> do you think if the fsa is the main army to call it an army, going against isis, do you think isis can be beaten, if it's just the fsa that's fighting against it on the
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ground? >> the fsa only, if it becomes t enough support, they can get rid of isis in syria i know it is very difficult, because isis is very well armed and they have many, many resources, financial resources. and weapons and they have a large number of fighters. but our experience with isis, told us that we can beat isis if we have sufficient military support. >> i don't understand where your confidence comes from, that the fsa wants to take on this fight, wants to go against isis, when they voted you out for pushing this new mission. right? when you said you wanted to work with the u.s. and wanted to fight with the u.s. not just assad, they wanted to vote you out. why are you confident that the
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fsa will go against isis? >> i can't say for syrian revolution, it is very important and the main goal is to collapse the regime. but as we begun as syrians to fight against the regime, we came to the conclusion that we have to fight against other extremist groups like isis. and isis is trying to control the areas which we liberate so we can't continue fighting only against the regime. it is very important to fight against the regime and against isis. it is very dangerous and very difficult. at the same time to fight against the syrian regime and isis. but we have, we don't have other choice. we have to clean the country from isis. we have to keep them out, to get rid of them. and then we can continue
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fighting. that does not mean we have to stop fighting against the regime now. >> general, last question. in the united states right now, there's a great debate about whether or not u.s. fighters must be on the ground to beat isis. do you believe the united states needs to have its own fighters fighting in syria and iraq in order to beat isis? >> no, no, it is not important. we are, it is, it is very clear for us that our friends in the united states don't have to send or to send their fighters to fight on the ground. we just need the support. and if we can train them so quickly and join them to other well-trained and well-armed fighters on the ground, and if we succeed to organize all of those, to work as regular army. because our experience in the
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last three years, shows that it is meaningless to continue fighting as different groups. it is very important now to work according to central plan. under a central command. and if we don't succeed to build this army, i think we can do some good efforts. but it will be not so very useful. >> it is safe to say that the general's confidence is high. but the competence of the fsa is low. >> well it seems a little bit confusing. he says in the interview that right now they're not an army. that he was voted out because he wanted to go about the strategy of taking on isis. when you look at the uneven nature of the numbers game that they're playing, what did he say, 4,000 that they have,
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maybe? and multiples of that that we know that isis has in the country. that seems completely out of whack. >> and they're getting whupped right now in their fight against assad. he also says it would take them two months to train up an extra 5,000, basically a doubling in the size of the army. what's the bottom line? is this the best force to fight against isis? clearly not. where is this coalition? where are the better fighters? >> and what's the alternative is also the big question. as you said, they don't want any foreign fighters in there. >> we know what the alternative is, it's the u.s. and that's why the debate. you heard it from a former commander of the fsa himself. you'll get to judge for yourself what's going on. we're going to be talking more about the nfl, because there's another player in trouble with the law. with three big stars already off the field, there's now a fourth. arrested on domestic violence charges. this time, though, immediate action by the league deactivating the player by his team. the question is, can the league recover from this crisis?
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"new day." the nfl, another black eye to deal with this morning. arizona cardinals running back jonathan dwyer has been arrested on domestic violence charges, he's been deactivated by his team. his alleged victim, a 27-year-old woman and an 18-month-old child. he joins three other big stars banned from the field for off-the-field violence. here to discuss the widening crisis in the nfl and what can be done, keith reed, the former senior editor for espn magazine and george martin, former defensive end with the new york giants and former president of the nfl players association. and i love seeing you guys, but gosh you're here regularly. and houston, we have a problem, we have another story we're dealing with. is the nfl waking up in a panic this morning? >> they've been waking up in a panic for about the last week and a half. to have these kinds of allegations come out, not only just about first of all, let's express concern for the child and for the woman, who are
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alleged to have been abused in this incident. when you go further and look at what happened yesterday, this just capped off a terrible day, you saw sponsors come out. we were here a couple of days ago talking about how difficult it would be for roger goodell and for the nfl to come back from this, if sponsors started to be vocal. that happened yesterday. >> they're being vocal, they're not pulling out. they're being vocal. which seems a precursor to potentially making some decisions about their bottom line. >> they're sending messages to the team. anheuser busch, their sponsorship is worth more than a billion dollars, that's a very difficult relationship to unravel. when you're paying that much money, you're going to come out and make it clear, we need to see some changes. >> that's an overarching thing we have to consider. we're talking big business here, keep that in mind. here's what i want to ask you, george is this one of those situations of when it rains, it pours? or is is it that people are feeling more emboldened to come forward? because we know that this case dates back a few months, the
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woman came forward now. maybe emboldened because finally the nfl big wigs are taking this seriously? >> i think it's more the former than the latter. think when you look at it, this is the nfl's version of the ebola virus, it seems to be spreading. so far there's no cure in sight. and i think there's a big concern. and like you just mentioned, now that the sponsors are standing up in arms and beginning to voice their displeasure, think that not only is roger goodell in a panic, i think there are 32 owners sitting on the sidelines saying what are we going to do about this. >> when you use the word panic, then you're making fear-based decisions. if you look at how the handling of all of this is going, not clear-cut, not consistent. it's a really muddy response. >> well i think for first of all, i would use a little bit different analogy than the ebola virus. think this is more akin to the church sexual abuse scandal, you saw some years ago. it started out very small, had you some allegations. the more and more, it was a
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deluge. all of a sudden they were everywhere and we found out how big this was. the catholic church did not handle it very well in the very beginning. it took a long time. and what you see scandals like these in large entrenched organizations that are very powerful. often it's the hubris that makes it hard for them to deal with the scandal. >> we saw yesterday, one of the vikings owners speaking out and say look we made a mistake by reinstating peterson. a lot of people uncomfortable with that word, mistake. it's being thrown around a lot. the fact is there's a lot of mistakes happening here. >> you heard roger goodell come out and say i made a mistake. the theme now is we've got it right. it seems they've going to have a misstep initially and now they go back and backtrack and try to correct the wrongs they made. >> here's the question -- you're dealing with the symptoms, but not dealing with the illness as a whole. if we're going 0 go back to the ebola comparison. we're putting some band-aids on
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some situations. and you saw very pointedly that sheriff went in and took him off the practice squad yesterday. we're talking about dwyer. very public you know, thing happening. but there's a greater issue about that we're looking at here. >> what i worry about is the nfl has now become a proxy for abuse, child abuse, for domestic violence this is a societal problem. i'm not saying it shouldn't be dealt with in the nfl. it should be dealt with in the nfl. it we have to have a bigger, broader, more honest conversation about domestic violence, where it happens, not just in nfl teams or professional sports, but everywhere. >> i don't think this will dissipate. the larger issue is what are we going to do on a proactive basis, an opposed to reactive. because reactive is not getting it done. >> i love seeing you guys, but every time you're here we're talking about this and we're talking about another case.
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ke keith george, thank you. and we should mention next hour we're going to speak exclusively with adrian peterson's close friend, former coach, want to know what he knows of this young man that's in the midst of this scandal that's brewing right now. we're certainly following a whole lot of news this morning. let's get to it. the amendment is adopted. >> the president urging the senate to follow the house's lead. >> i'm asking. do it. >> this doesn't even seem serious. >> i will not commit you to fighting another ground war in iraq. >> the biggest anti-terror raid ever in australian history. >> those that think they may be operating in dark corners, we will hunt you down. nypd stepped up security wednesday on mass transit. >> isis will prioritize launching attacks against the united states. >> potential for them to come back and try to commit terrorist acts here are very real. scotland voting on independence. >> there shall be a team
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scotland to take this nation forward. good morning, welcome to "new day," we begin with breaking news, a shocking terror plot in australia stopped just in the nick of time. the question is something similar in the works here in the u.s.? isis sympathizers in australia are accused of planning what they call a demonstration killing, sicko terminology for finding a random person in public and beheading them. this comes as president obama is trying to convince congress his plan to take on isis is the right way to go. >> the president's plan to arm and train rebels in syria got a green light from the house of representatives yesterday. take a look at this -- 71 democrats from his own party turning against him. refusing to back the measure. some saying they don't trust the rebels and don't think the plan will work. we're following the terror threat and the terror fight around the world. we're going to begin with senior international correspondent ivan watson. he has the latest on the terror
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raid in australia. ivan, what do we know? >> good morning, chris. that's right. the australians calling this the biggest counterterrorism operation of their country's history. predawn raids, dozens of arrest warrants, more than 800 police officers and going after what they describe as a homegrown terrorist plot to carry out what the prime minister described as demonstration killings. now the australian media has filled in some of the disturbing details of this alleged plot. saying that there were plans to actually capture some innocent civilians and behead that person on camera, in public. and then drape the corpse, the body with the black flag of the isis militant group. now the australian police say they foiled this plot. that they detained at least 15 people. one man has been formally charged with terrorist-related offense. no plea given by that suspect at this point. but basically, this is coming at
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a time where australia has been very quick to join president obama's international coalition to combat the isis militant group. australia has sent war planes, combat support planes, even advisers, military advisers to iraq to assist in this operation in iraq. and now the australian government warning that there could be dozens of australian citizens fighting alongside isis and other militant groups. and that they've intercepted communications from isis members to sympathizers back in australia, to basically carry out these attacks. so the australians say they have ratcheted up the threat level to high. that is also another first in australian history. chris? >> all right. ivan, thank you very much. at least they were able to thwart it. the question is what happens going forward. now what's going forward in the u.s. is today the senate is expected to follow the house's lead and approve the president's
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plan to arm and train moderate syrian rebels. i say that slowly. it is a term that is confusing many people here as we get to cnn's erin mcpike down in d.c. moderate syrian rebels. do they exist? are they talking about the free syrian army? we don't know at this point, do we, erin? >> well chris, that's right. and to that end, the president met with 20 high-level members of his national security team yesterday and they refined the strategy to deal with the threat of foreign terrorists. and everything that goes with it as you mentioned. the house vote yesterday was a small, but symbolic victory for the white house. and the same outcome is expected later today in the senate. but still questions are piling up on both sides of the aisle showing growing doubt that this national security strategy can even be effective. president obama commending members of congress. >> the amendment is adopted. >> for approving one piece of his strategy in the war against isis. >> i want to start off by saying
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thank you. to house members. republican and democrat, who came together today to pass an important component on our strategy for dealing with this terrible terrorist organization known as isle. >> a rare show of bipartisan support in the house. though 71 democrats broke ranks with the president. >> what in the world are we doing? instead of rushing into yet another war, flooding the region with more weapons and intervening further in a civil war, congress should be pressing the pause button. >> joining 85 republicans in rejecting the measure. >> i will not vote for something that i know will not work. arming islamists to fight other islamists is not a winning strategy. >> the president urging the senate to follow the house's lead. >> no more war! >> on the other site of the capitol, secretary of state john kerry facing a grilling,
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insisting the syrian rebels require american support in lieu of actual troops. >> senator mccain knows that he's been screaming about it for some time. >> we've all been screaming about it. >> well that's -- >> we've all done nothing, or at least not much to talk about. >> with mounting doubt, that any mission against isis is even achievable without a dedicated ground presence, as the president promises. >> it seems to me the administration has placed many, many caveats on what we will not do. and our military leaders have urged you to put special forces on the ground. but no, we're not going to do that. so this doesn't even seem serious. >> just one day after joint chiefs chairman, general martin dempsey opened the door to a possible ground presence, president obama coming face to face with troops at macdill air force base, doubled down on this promise to them in the fight against isis. >> the american forces that have been deployed to iraq do not and will not have a combat mission.
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they will support iraqi forces on the ground. as they fight for their own country against these terrorists. >> now white house press secretary josh earnest clarified dempsey's remarks even further yesterday on air force one. saying he meant officials in advisory roles might need to embed with rebels. but would not be personally or directly engaging the enemy. each issue that gets raised is showing cracks in the team and bringing a barrage of additional questions that the administration is struggling to answer. >> right, it's also making it very clear, erin, that the congress is doing a lot of complaining and questioning. but not fulfilling their role of actually debating this issue and having a vote on the plan. this was just a little piece that they voted on. the question is why aren't they doing more if they're so concerned. erin mcpike. thank you. senator susan collins, republican from maine.
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sits on the intelligence committee. thank you for coming in. where are you on the syria vote that should be coming before the senate this afternoon? >> well, first of all, i share the view that isis poses a tremendous threat. not only to iraq and the region, but to western targets such as australia as we've seen this morning. and to americans both abroad and at home. but i have a number of concerns about the president's strategy. i don't know how we're going to effectively vet the so-called moderate syrian opposition. we spend billions of dollars and a decade training the iraqi security forces. and look what happened when they were confronted with the isis threat? they basically cut and run with the exception of the kurdish forces in the north. so we need to make sure,
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especially since the experts tell us, that these forces are heavily infiltrated, that the training, equipping and arming does not end up in the hands of isis fighters. >> have you gotten an answer yet, senator? i know you expressed these concerns to secretary kerry in a letter. have you gotten any answers that would allay your concerns, put your concerns aside so you could vote? and how, will you vote, you haven't yet said. >> well let me say that the administration has reached out to me. the president called me, samantha power called me to discuss my concerns. and the answer i get is that the military has gotten better at doing the vetting. but one has only to look at the attacks, the insider attacks in afghanistan to continue to have a lot of concerns. it's very difficult, because as
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was said earlier, i think we should not be rushing to consideration of this issue. we should be staying in session and having a full debate, explore alternatives, make sure that the safeguards are there. rather than having one series of votes today where we in the senate may not even have a separate vote on the syrian issue. i'm also very concerned that we not aim our air strikes at the syrian regime and we keep our focus on isis. >> have you gotten a clear answer on how the administration says in training and arming, the syrian rebels, how they will be able to then make sure that one, the weapons don't end up pointing back at the united states. and two, that the syrian rebels will change their focus to isis, rather than on the syrian regime. have you gotten an answer to
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that? >> i have not gotten a satisfactory answer to either of those questions. and look, the moderate syrian opposition is much more likely to be focused against the assad regime than it is against the fight against isis. >> is there an alternative in taking -- you said at the top you know and agree that isis needs to be eradicated, they're such a huge threat is there an alternative you see to how to take on isis in syria? >> let me make clear that i do support the air strikes in syria. and i do think we need boots on the ground. but not american boots on the ground. i think we should rely on the arab nations in the region to provide the ground troops. as well as the peshmerga from the kurdish part of iraq. and also once again try to rebuild the iraqi security forces.
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look, i'm willing to give the president a certain amount of time to put his strategy into effect and then evaluate it. but this really is not the way we should be operating. this is a very serious conflict issue. and it deserves a debate on a new authorization for the use of military force. because when we're talking about going after targets in syria, particularly targets that affect the syrian regime, that's an act of war. we should not be rushing through such an important decision. >> well in that issue came up very squarely in the hearing with secretary kerry yesterday. the secretary saying clearly with respect to asking congress, i am, do it. he said very clearly. and senator corker came back to say what you're asking doesn't even seem serious. do you think that, that you've received any serious request
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from the administration to offer another authorization, a further authorization for use of military force? do you think congress will actually in any reality, take it up? >> what i'm looking for is for both the president and the u.n. representative to submit to us, is specifically language for the authorization for the use of military force that we could debate and then vote on. >> it sure doesn't seem like you're going to get it. >> no, and we should. we should do it before we go home. >> why can't congress, why do you think congress should not be acting to offer an authorization for use of military force without that request? >> well, generally it's the administration, since the president's commander-in-chief, that comes to congress with this request. but there are members of the senate, such as senator tim kaine, who have drafted their own authorization. we really should see what the
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administration wants very specifically, and there's no reason for us to adjourn tonight. we could stay in session, and have a full debate on this really important issue. i think that may happen in the lame duck session. after the election, but really, it should be happening right now. >> i know that a lot can happen in the hours before a vote. but real quick -- are you yes or no on the syria vote at this moment? >> i'm going to vote for the continuing resolution, because i don't want government to shut down right now the senate isn't even scheduled to have a separate vote on the syrian resolution. and that's just plain wrong. >> senator, great to have you, thank you so much. >> thank you. a lot to debate on that issue, as you see from the senator's concerns. >> at least she's asking for a debate. most of them, including corker is saying, voicing concerns, they don't want to meet and debate, we know why, they're afraid of the political fallout
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no time it play politics, the senator is the one making the right case. >> they need to talk to their leaders, michaela? another big decision needing to be made today in scotland. voters there heading to the polls today to answer yes or no to the referendum question -- should scotland be an independent nation? an incredible turnout is expected. our christiane amanpour told us earlier. 80% is expected. we should know the results by friday morning. back at home, officials in pennsylvania are concerned a suspected cop killer may try to strike again. eric matthew frein remains on the run. we also have learned that he was active in a military simulation unit, that reenacted cold war era european conflicts. corporal brian dickson, killed in friday's ambush will be laid to rest today. 11 wildfires continue to burn across california. governor jerry brown has declared a state of emergency in
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siskiyou and el dorado counties, the counties hardest hit. the fires have destroyed 150 buildings and are threatening 2,000 homes east of sacramento. firefighters are struggling to regain control of the king fire, which has burned more than 40 square miles and is still growing. major privacy policy change for apple. the company announced wednesday that it will no longer unlock most iphones and ipads for law enforcement. even with presented with a search warrant. apple's new ios 8 operating system has been designed to encrypt data, so not even apple can access it. previous operating systems allowed apple to collect data from phones when police requested that information. >> very interesting. >> isn't that interesting? >> very interesting development in that new operating system. >> i feel there will be maybe some pressure on the part of law enforcement to say wait, wait, hold on. >> you buy that it could be possible that they can't access
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their own information? because of how it's encrypted? >> no. >> i think somebody can always get access to it. >> hackers have proven that. >> true. we have new details on the breaking news coming out of australia this morning, isis sympathizers allegedly planning to kidnap and behead a random member of the public. what does that mean? what is going on there? and of course that always begs the question -- could that happen here? and news on the nfl situation, the child abuse charges against vikings star adrian peterson. are they in his character? and are people in his inner circle surprised? hearing a lot about what he did. but what about who he is? we have an interview exclusively with peterson's childhood coach and close friend. ♪
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cnn national security analyst and former bush homeland security and counterterrorism adviser fran townsend. the concern is obvious, if they can do it in australia, can they do it here in new york city? is that what we're seeing with the guy upstate in new york who they're trying and the stuff online and the threats, how real? >> i think there are two different kinds of threats, that there's real concern about. one is the isis foreign fighters, those guys who are overseas, may try to get into the united states to try to launch an attack and then there's the home-grown jihadists. it seems, we believe, what australia is dealing with easier to detect that when it's a group that comes together because they have to meet, they have to plan, they have to coordinate. all of those represent opportunities for law enforcement to discover them and disrupt the attack. which is what the australians did. the hardest piece is the individual. now we've seen arrests in denver and the one you mentioned, where individuals who are sort of vulnerable to the isis propaganda machine, a very
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sophisticated, very capable machine, putting out videos, not only of the beheadings, but sort of inspirational videos, trying to inspire people already inside the united states, who are vulnerable. to join their cause. we saw a woman in denver who was going to leave to go marry an isis member. >> so the desire for news urgency aside, nothing new in terms of the threat in the u.s. isis is just more of the same, not something unique, fair? >> i think that's fair, commissioner bratton was responding to a website by a group of isis sympathizers threatening an attack on new york. not surprising, not really new. you don't know how real it is, but it's understandable that the commissioner in the nypd would react to it. >> i interviewed bratton not long ago and he said look, this is part of the job here in new york city and that's one of the reasons he's back, inspiring confidence and we'll see what happens going forward. now the overall problem -- just bottom-line me here, the house
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just voted, let's arm this free syrian army. do you believe that calling the free syrian army an army is accurate? >> well, it's not clear that it is accurate. because what you don't, to the extent you use the word army and you're thinking -- >> are they united. >> brigades and platoons, under a single command and control element. there is a leadership between the free syrian army, there is a leadership structure. you want to be sure that the united states and our allies are working now to confirm there is a unified military structure that can take instructions, be trained, act as a cohesive unit against the isis enemy. >> do you have confidence that this is the best force you would want to put against isis? >> well, you don't get to pick the best force you're going to put against. you get to pick from the team that's available on the field. >> but if you decide to fight, then you better be making the
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decision can you win, otherwise why are you fighting. >> that's right, that means you have to properly resource, train and equip the forces, right? part of the debate yesterday in congress and i think it's a righteous question to ask -- if you're going to support these free syrian army, the iraqi army, the peshmerga, kurdish forces, you have to put sufficient u.s. military expertise on the ground to work with them. the to gather the intelligence, do the targeting and advise them on the execution against those targets. if you're not willing to do that, you're either in or you're not in. this is not a time for half-measures and putting people's lives at risk. not only our own, but those of our allies. >> you think you can train up 5,000 farmers in two months to take on ice snis? that's what the former general is saying, we need two months, we'll be good to go. a doubling in size of the free syrian army. >> a good deal of training has been going on. it's been sort of covert, handled in places like jordan. so we're not, we should be
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clear, we're not starting from a dead stop. the number is not now zero, right? what you're talking about is building on what is right now a quite modest force to your point. and you want to add on to that with really comprehensive training. but you also, you can train as many as you want. unless you've got the intelligence to tell them, what where the targets are and how to execute it. it's no good. you need, you really need, it's not just a matter of training as tough a task as that is. it's also a matter of having the necessary intelligence to then actually deploy them against -- >> final thing -- yes/no me on this. from what you understand of the situation and what this will require, is this a situation that requires full debate of the congress that they should stay in session and vote on this as a declaration of war and get on the same page right away with all the different components? as opposed to just one step at a time? >> well, the yes/no part -- they need sufficient information to be able to vote. whether or not that requires staying in, i mean i think you heard susan collins this morning
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say she needs more time. i really think it's up to the senate to speak up and say we either have sufficient information take that vote. in which case they should do it. if they don't have sufficient information to be able to have that vote, they ought to stay in and debate it. >> fran townsend thank you very much for helping us understand a decidedly complex situation. another complex situation, although it's pretty obvious to some, vikings superstar adrian peterson has always been considered one of the good guys in the nfl. now thrown into doubt for an obvious reason -- his child abuse arrest and indictment. was this behavior totally out of character? we're going to ask peterson's close frebt and former childhood coach. you can decide for yourself. the senate race in kentucky, man, is it getting ugly. wait until you see the ads, a new low? we say that all the time this one may be deservedly show. jon king will take it on when we go "inside politics." close. lose-good d help keep teeth clean and breath fresh with beneful healthy smile snacks. with soft meaty centers and teeth cleaning texture,it's dental that tastes so good.
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let's get to inside politics on "new day" with jon king. jon? >> good morning to you, a busy time here in washington. it's an election year, the president trying to get authorization from the congress to arm the syrian rebels. with me to share insight, margaret tell of bloomberg news and cnn's peter hanby. the senate will take up the plap, not a full war authorization. the president just needs the authority to arm the syrian rebels, the moderate opposition and to get the money. has the defense department, look at the house vote. we expect the president to win, 85 democrats and 71 republicans voted no. is this a reflection of broad
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doubts about the president's plan or safe politics? >> it's a mix. when you look at the block of democratic opposition. so many of these are of the anti-war democrats who either oppose the iraq war to begin with or would have opposed the iraq war if they would have been there or just that's the bloc. >> jonathan wiseman has an interesting point in his piece today in the "new york times," which is so many democrats and republicans in congress weren't there there's been so much turnover since the iraq war. but those people, those democrats who were there, and voted for the iraq war are sort of once bitten, twice shy about the authorizations. and yes it's narrow in scope. but i think their take is that look what the bush administration did what the authorization for military force in 2002, was to use it over and over again 0 justify military force. i think they're a little bit wary that sort of a narrow vote can still be expanded into a bigger war. >> the president had the congressional picnic, he thanked
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the house for the voe. he said it was a rare moment when washington was coming together. maybe they should do it more often. have people get together and have a conversation. it's nice the president had the event. one of the reason some of the democrats were nervous is because of the controversy stirred up this week by general dempsey. the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. in my view he was being honest. he was asked questions about what if you need a plan b or plan c. meaning if the free syrian army isn't up to the fight. if the iraqi army isn't up to the fight and your goal is to destroy isis will american troops eventually perhaps have to be used? general dempsey said if it came to that, he would make that recommendation to the president. and the white house scrambled. the white house in tampa florida yesterday said no i will not commit you to a ground war in iraq and secretary kerry back before his old friends in congress. >> the president will not put american ground troops in iraq and the president made it clear again food in in a state he made at centcom, that america can make a decisive -- i'm quoting
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the president, we can make a decisive difference, but i want to be clear, the troops deployed to iraq do not and will not have a combat mission. >> they're arguing with themselves, except they shouldn't be. is there anything wrong with what general dempsey said? he said if the president's goal is to destroy isis and if the first plan doesn't work, then what? >> militarily, there is nothing at all wrong with what general dempsey said. but politically, it's a bomb to drop right before the elections. because it's true. i don't think president obama wants to send combat troops back to iraq or anywhere near syria. but like what if he has to? >> it undercuts the original premise of obama's candidacy, which was to bring the troops home. he's so against anything that even has a whiff of that. >> but he sent already like 1,000 advisers to iraq. >> that's where the rub is the advisers are not on a combat mission until they are. >> the rub also is what's the
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message to isis. if you're convinced the u.s. will never send ground troops, all you have to do is deal with the free syrian army. >> that's why the republicans don't want to say they want troops on the ground. but like marco rubio, like we just saw are not ruling it out. strategically, they see it's boneheaded. >> listen to what obama said, he is saying i will not commit the people i'm sending right now to combat. >> he's trying to draw the line, he could be leaving it for the next president. i will note that joe biden in iowa, the vice president echoing general dempsey. he said it was a big if. he said if he concluded it was needed, he would request it from the president. we'll determine it based on how the effort goes. the vice president often accused of being on message. i think again he's -- telling the truth. i think -- >> and not running for president right now. >> may not be the best political thing to say, but they're telling the truth. let's get to one of the best
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races in kentucky. in kentucky, you have mitch mcconnell, the republican leader, he wants to be the majority leader if republicans have a good year, he's in a close race with allison grimes. >> mitch mcconnell wants you to think i'm barack obama. i'm not barack obama. i disagree with him on guns, coal and the epa. >> allison grimes thinks shooting a gun will convince you she's not like barack obama. >> i'm not barack obama. >> but grimes twice supported obama's platform for obama care. >> now, if that wasn't fun enough, and this race is good, they're having a good time fighting it out on television, grimes just this morning airing a new ad, remember, senior citizens, the most reliable voters in a mid-term election year. hitting republican leader, mitch mcconnell with the help of her grandmother. >> the last ten years, he couldn't speak or work. and they -- could barely afford the medicines.
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>> our life became something else. no more vacations. no retirement. just existing. >> this is why we have to strengthen medicare. senator mcconnell has voted over and over again to raise seniors' medicare costs. i'll never do that. >> so the obvious is that she's trying to get the elderly voters, which are the most reliable by playing medicare. she was on this issue earlier in the campaign. my question is, did they switch so fast because -- they're at a point they were tracking every night in the campaign. you try a new ad, put $200,000 behind it. if you pull it back so quick or change the mix so quick, you're doing it based on what you see in the polling. >> there's a limited amount of time, they don't think she can get him. at the course they've been going. but also i think she's trying to get back on the offensive instead of the defensive. when you're doing ads saying i'm not barack obama, you're being defined by barack obama. when you're going after mcconnell and trying to depress his elderly base or increase
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your own, iyou're trying to increase your game. >> medicare has come up increasingly and mcconnell has hit grimes on supporting obama care and using that sort of republican line that that cuts from medicare, which is probably misleading. but -- >> it's a mid-term election. >> and to your point, they need to get older voters, especially in place like kentucky. >> the the one seat where democrats think they can pick off a republican. they've got a couple other targets. but it's the most fun. we often say that peter hanby has the best job at cnn. he comes in every now and then to talk to me in the mornings, otherwise he's out there getting to see america. we'll give awe little tease before we go of what we call the hanby-cast. listen. >> 200 reporters crammed up to a fence to get a shot of hillary and bill grilling steaks. ♪ ♪ >> go to cnn politics, on our interweb as we say, you see the candidate there and you can see more of the hamby cast, peter's
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weekly take on things out there in the country. and i think he's a bit skeptical about the media in this one. you can get your judgment of what peter thinks about us. >> maybe. a little skeptical of how hillary clinton is going to deal with that media. she's going to face media packs that big wherever she goes. and there's all these calls for her to be authentic and get outside the bubble and that's the challenge for her. >> go to cnnpolitics.com. and margaret, are you working on the margaret-cast? >> i'm working on it. >> hamby is like a double agent. a little bit of having the cake, eating it, too. he's got his own theme music, i don't know how i feel about it, jk. >> wherever hamby goes, there's food. >> but he's not eating it, he's all ripped up. something is going on there with that hamby. i'll have 0 to start watching the podcasts. adrian peterson is on the vikings' exempt list, that means he's banned from the minnesota
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now you could have done it twice. this is awkward. go to comcastbusiness.com/ checkyourspeed. if we can't offer faster speeds or save you money we'll give you $150. comcast business built for business. good morning once again to you, welcome back to "new day." adrian peterson, the star running back of the minnesota vike sgs in the middle of a firestorm right now, accused of abusing two of his children. he's been banned from all team activities and he's been placed on an exempt list. it comes as nike joins peterson's other sponsors in walking away, if only temporarily, from the football star. while the investigation continues. steve oody, adrian peterson's former coach and a close friend of peterson joins us exclusively this morning from baton rouge, louisiana. good morning, mr. oody.
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>> good morning, michaela, how are you doing in. >> i'm doing very well and i'm appreciative of you giving us a chance to understand the man that you've known. you've known him an awfully long time. i understand you first met him when he was seven years old, is that true? >> yes, ma'am. >> tell me a little bit about the man you know. >> he came -- okay. i met him when he was seven years old. he came out to the athletic complex in palestine, texas where i was a coach and a board member of the anderson county football league and we've been good friends ever since. >> what's your reaction to the suspension of this young man you know? >> well, i'm not very happy, michaela, to be honest with you. i think he's getting a little injustice here. well not trying to overshadow the injuries to the child or the seriousness of child abuse, i'm just here to tell american public, adrian peterson is not a child abuser. he's very kind, he has a history
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of being kind and gentle to children. being friendly towards everybody. always -- very respectful, was taught to be respectful. and i just never seen him where he was angry or violent or anything like that off of the field. >> we're glad to get your perspective. but you can see how it doesn't align with what he stands accused. and the pictures that we've seen of the injuries to that child. as you mention. the injuries show that the skin was broken, there were raised welts. i understand that he says and in fact i want to read you a statement that adrian said, he said, i have to live with the fact that when i discipline my son the way i was disciplined as a child, i caused an injury that i never intended or thought would happen. he says he was raised this way. is this how you know he was raised? >> michaela, he was raised in a
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very strict environment. very loving, caring environment. but one where you were taught right from wrong and adrian knows right from wrong. and i believe in his statement, that's ha he's saying, he understands the injuries to the child was not his intent. and that was wrong. and he has apologized for that. >> do you think it got away from him in that moment? help us understand that. >> michaela, i've talked to i don't know, 50-plus people, fathers in the last week and they all agree that occasionally, discipline gets away from you and you don't, you don't mean, your intention is not harm or abuse. you are disciplining your child the way that you know how. and you're disciplining that child out of love. but sometimes stuff like that occurs. i've spoken with both of my sons
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in the last week. and they both reminded me of times that maybe i went a little overboard. so -- >> maybe therein lies the problem about using physical, you know, that's what people that are against corporal punishment will say. therein lies the problem of using physical smack, a spanking, a whupping, a switch, as a form of discipline, right? >> okay. michaela. i agree 100% with you, and i believe in adrian's statement. he has said he has since gone to counseling and be shown alternate alternatives. but my question is, is this a question about corporal punishment and how to discipline a child? and that's why we're suspended from the nfl? i mean, surely you can understand there's a little bit of difference in punishment to a child, or discipline to a child, and beating somebody up or shooting somebody at a
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nightclub. or those sort of things. so i just don't, my personal opinion and what i'm having a hard time getting my head around is i just don't understand how all this is put together. and i don't understand how adrian's track record of kindness to people in general, i've never known the kid to be in a fight. so -- to all of a sudden have him put together with some people that have done some other stuff, i just don't understand it, to be honest with you. >> and you're talking about the fact that he has -- he has been sort of grouped in with these other troubled nfl players who are stand accused of domestic violence. you really take umbrage with that. you don't like the fact, you see that his case is a different case than ray rice and hardy and these other players that are accused of domestic violence.
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>> michaela, i don't know ray, i don't know greg. and i'm sure their cases are need to be looked at on an individual basis, also. what i'm saying is adrian was disciplining his child, in my opinion, that's a difference than physically whipping a woman or a child or a man or elderly person. going overboard on discipline is not the same thing as hitting somebody with your fist and knocking them down. >> tell me more about. >> i'm a simple american, but that's pretty plain. >> i want you to go back to the young man you know, to the player you knew as a child, you knew him as a young man, you knew his father very well. how is he dealing with all of this now? i know you haven't had a chance to speak with him. you spoke to his manager last night. do we know how he's doing? >> adrian, adrian's going to be
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fine. adrian is struggling with this. the worst thing that you could do to adrian is take away his ability to play. adrian loves to play. i can sit here and tell stories, until noon, of him playing, sneaking onto the field where there was little league, high school. people having to hide his helmet. adrian loves to play. he's a big kid at heart. and so to take that away from him, is -- is tragic. it's -- it's going to be tough. but he, adrian will be okay. >> and you do recognize that they, you know, they have to investigate, they have to let the investigation run its course. and then we will see what happens. there is still, we don't know what this will all, what will all end up here. i want to say thank you, steve, for giving us insight into the man you know.
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for defending your friend and for talking to us here on "new day." >> okay, thank you very much. >> you take care. we know today is an historic day in the united kingdom, voting is taking place now. the polls are open. the question is, will scotland leave britain and form its own country? what would the end result look like? we'll be watching. [announcer] play close-good and close. help keep teeth clean and breath fresh with beneful healthy smile snacks. with soft meaty centers and teeth cleaning texture,it's dental that tastes so good. beneful healthy smile food and snacks. today, more and more people with type 2 diabetes are learning about long-acting levemir®, an injectable insulin that can give you
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succeeds, things could get a little messy. oil currency, the queen nonetheless, even the flag could be literally and figuratively up in the air. who else needs to be taking this on other than john berman? >> aka braveheart. >> exactly. exactly. you can take our lives, but -- >> you cannot take our freedom. >> except, well maybe for 307 years or so. look, this is so complicated, this is not some conscious uncoupling between gwyneth paltrow and that guy from coldplay. they were together for ten years. these people have been together for 307 years and now they're thinking about a great breakup? ugly. look at this. if we learned one thing from "braveheart" it's -- >> that they may take our lives, but they'll never take our freedom! >> reporter: because if they do take it, mel gibson might have added, we will probably vote to get it back in 307 years or so. ♪
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this may be a classic relationship struggle over who wears the kilt in this family, but if there is a breakup, it could be the messiest divorce ever. what do you do with the flag? the blue part of the union jack is st. andrew's cross, that's scotland. what do you do with the pound snt uk says they keep that. the oil well that's in scotland so you know who wants that. the bombs? they seemed important in "the queen." you can bet the uk wants the arsenal that resides in scotland and what do you do with wales? that stays in the uk but maybe scotland can visit wednesday nights and every other weekend. as confusing as the arguments over this stuff might be, the logic behind the arguments might be even more so. >> both sides of this argument have valid points, the highland tradition and those who enjoy cruel worms beneath british
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boots. >> reporter: those freedom loving heirs of the highland tradition says while they absolutely positively want their independence, they absolutely positively want to keep the queen. ♪ because nothing, i mean nothing says freedom like a monarchy. ♪ and nothing says independence like the united states of america, which is why hillary clinton told the bbc -- >> i would hate to have you lose scotland. >> reporter: because what does the united states really know about splitting from the uk? that never works. in closing, no matter what happens to the flag, the bound, the nukes or the oil, no matter what happens in the actual vote, scotland will always be part of great britain. it will never be part of england, the irish part of neither. nosh island will still be part of the united kingdom which no longer may not be as united but
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those that think they may be operating in dark corners we will hunt you down. >> isis sympathizers allegedly planning to kidnap and about he head a random member of the public as the white house battles criticism from within their own party that the plan to take on isis won't work. out of bounds, another star football player arrested for domestic violence. we have new details on what he's alleged to have done and how the league is handling this growing problem. chilling new details into the life of a cop killer on the run in pennsylvania. police say he would role play as a cold war era soldier and now taking on the role for real. the concern is, will he strike again? >> your "new day" continues right now.
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-- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >> announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo, kate bolduan and michaela pereira. >> welcome everyone, to "new day," it's thursday, september 18th, 8:00 in the east. supporters of isis planned to behead a random person in public as some sort of demonstration killing. it is a gruesome reminder of just how far isis and its sympathizers are willing to go. >> so that takes us to the question of what are you going to do about them? in washington the house approves president obama's plan to arm and train moderate rebels to fight isis in syria. take a look at the vote. 85 democrats, obviously the president's own party turned and voted no, more than the republicans, who voted no, so why? they say they don't trust the rebels. we don't know who the moderates are and therefore this plan may
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not work. we're going to talk live to a key member of the president's national security team in just a moment. stick with us for that, but first let's get to our senior international correspondent ivan watson is what's going on in australia. >> reporter: raids by australian police in the biggest city in australia, sydney, before dawn and they've been destroyed by the australian police as the biggest counter-terror operation in australian history. there were dozens of arrest warrants, more than 800 police officers involved and rounded up 18 suspects they say were plotting to basically attack some innocent civilian, australian media have gone one step further that the plot was to cut the head off to behead the victim, film the act and then drape the body with that black flag of the isis militant group. now, of the people who were detained, one has been charged
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with already with terrorism charges, and he's been denied bail. nine of the other suspects have been released thus far, two of these 15 suspects, chris, were women, and we'll probably learn more about this alleged plot in the days ahead. the australian prime minister has warned that he thinks there are about 60 australian nationals who are fighting alongside isis and other militant groups in the middle east. the australians are worried that these australian jay hadis could come back home and commit acts of terrorism. they've intercepted communications from a senior australian national in isis to supporters back in australia, urging them to carry out what he described as demonstration killings. the australians have been quick to join president obama's campaign against isis. they say they'll send war planes, fighter jets and advisers to iraq as well. chris? >> they, too, are yielding on the issue of boots on the ground
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for now. ivan, thank you very much for laying out the evolving nature of the threat. question again is, what will you do about it? today the senate is expected to follow the house's lead and approve training and weapons for syrian rebels to use obviously in the fight against isis but some aren't convinced that arming rebels is a good idea. let's understand why it should be a good idea from one of the people putting together the plan for the white house, mr. tony blinkin, deputy national security adviser for the obama administration. tony their for taking the opportunity. >> thanks, chris. >> so make the case. why is arming the free syrian army to the extent it is an army the best way to fight isis? >> chris, you need some force on the ground to be able to take t the territory that xwets freed up through the use of air power over time. we can put air power with the coalition and set isil back. in order to take some of the ground that's been liberated you need a force on the ground, it
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has to be the syrians feiging for their own country. that's the best way to do t the most effective way to do it, the most sustainable way to do it. >> is it true that this particular group that's being called an army really isn't, it's somewhat in a shambles, getting beaten up by assad, doesn't really want to fight against isis and it basically means you're starting at ground zero training up a force? >> chris, we've been working with many of the opposition groups for the last two and a half years. we have much better knowledge of who they are, what they're willing to do. these are people who want to fight. they want to fight for their families. they want to fight for their communities. they want to fight for their towns but they need help. they need to be trained, they need to be equipped and they need support from us and other countries. if they have that, we believe that they will fight. >> we have a problem with defining the "they," right, tony? senator collins and a lot of other politicians and you guys are discussing it in house, who are the moderates? how do you arm the right people? how do you wind up not having weapons you give them in the training turned and used against
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you? >> these are critical questions. one of the things we've done over the last two and a half years is go up the knowledge base, build up the relationships. with the saudis and other countries in the region coming in, joining in the training, they, too, have tremendous knowledge, they know who these people are, they can help identify them, they can help vet them. we can make sure the right people are getting the training and the right people are getting the weapons. >> susan collins doesn't pick up the same confidence you're showing now in the administration's ability to vet the moderates and make sure you're giving it to the right people. is that a communication gap or does she have it wrong? >> look, it's very understandable that people are skeptical about this. the president was reticent initially some years ago when it was proposed that we get in whole hog and do this. we wanted to make sure that we built up an understanding of who we were dealing with. now, two and a half years later we have a much greater understanding, but we've also been very clear with congress, this is not a silver bullet. it's an essential part of what needs to happen but it's not a magic solution. it's going to take time. it's going to take effort, but
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we believe that with the right support, these are motivated people who want to fight for their towns, they want to fight for their families. >> how do we avoid, how does the u.s. avoid getting sucked into fighting this fight when the rest of the region doesn't step up, because right now you're not seeing the big players with the big armies stepping up. >> chris, a couple of things. first, we have more than 40 countries who said they want to be part of this coalition. across all, effort in the air, working to support to train and equip, dealing with the financing, dealing with the flow of foreign fighters et cetera. it's a process. countries say they're signing up and then we develop the requirements for what the campaign needs to look like and over time we match these countries to different requirements and different tasks. if you look at the first gulf war that's exactly what happened when the first president bush and his administration did a great job building a coalition but it took weeks and in some cases months move countries from joining the coalition to actually taking specific responsibilities. >> tony, it also took a really
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sizeable u.s. force to go in there and clean house in the first gulf war. >> yes. >> that was the stying factor, you had the best fighting men and women in the world wearing u.s. uniforms on the ground doing what needed to be done. now you know the polls show that people don't want that, you guys are playing to the polls, so everybody down there in d.c., so how do you avoid the situation as happened in the past? >> chris, we're not playing the polls. we're playing to the experience of the last decade. we found it was not the most effective way to go to send in hundreds of thousands of american ground troops get them bogged down in a decade and try to deal with the problem that way. what is more effective making sure local people are fighting for their own countries. if they take the responsibility to do that, to help them, to support them, to give them the training, to give them the equipment, to give them the air power, to give them the advisers, that's what we can do, that's how we can be most effective. >> you'll get a big amen on that from the american people but the problem is it's not happening. the saudis have a big fighting force, they should be worried
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about isis. they're saying we'll help train but not going to fight. the turks have a lot of people taken hostage by isis. they are in direct line of threat. what is going on here? why aren't they fighting their own fight? >> chris, let's take this one step at a time. first look what happened in iraq. using air power in coordination with iraqi forces and the kudish peshmerga forces we've turned back isil in a number of places and it changed the dynamic on the grouped. that's proven to be effective. we have a lot of work to do to rebuild up the iraqi security forces to get them coordinated. we have a new government and partner in place to do that. in syria it's tougher an longer and takes time to build the opposition but we believe it can be done. these countries you'll see the secretary of state is going to be hosting a big meeting of the coalition partners over the coming weeks you see not only the countries signing on but taking on specific responsibilities including using their air power. >> the idea of how this will happen going forward, it's going to take a long time.
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it's pretty arguable that congress should get involved and be giving an approval of power. that frustrates things because of the dynamic in d.c. but it seems to fit squarely in their responsibility especially because, tony, and here's the question, right now one of the big criticisms you didn't leave a force in eyeing rah, you didn't leave a force in afghanistan the way you needed to. are you rethinking that now as policy? will you keep advisers on the ground in these hot areas for the foreseeable future? >> chris, first if it you go back and look at what happened in iraq, the bush administration signed an agreement to get our forces out in 2012 at the very beginning of 2012 than hafs the deal with the iraqis. we said we'd like to leave some folks behind to help you on counterterrorism. they would not stand up in their parliament and say we want the americans to stay. it was all about the politics. at that point after ten years they didn't want americans. as soon as our forces came out in early 2012 we began to try and work with the iraqis to build back up their counterterrorism capability. we offered them advisers, we
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offered them military assistance. at first they didn't want it. 2013, isil rears its head, all of a sudden they want it. for the last year or more we've been working to rebuild that iraqi capacity. unfortunately, the isil problem outran what we were able to do. now the new iraqi government, remodeling the army with a partner there and with our commitment we believe we can get ahead of this, so the answer is not to repeat the last decade. it is not to send 150,000 american troops. it is not to spend trillions of dollars. it is to empower local forces to fight for their own countries. we believe that we'll have partners to do. >> that he'that's the key, we h see the partners step up. tony thanks for taking on the questions and appreciate the opportunity. look forward to seeing you again. another big story we're wtching, if you thought it could not get worse for the nfl, unfortunately it seems it has, another star player, arrested on domestic violence charges. police showing up, you see there, at an arizona cardinals practice escorting running back jonathan dwyer off the field.
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all of this happening just after the minnesota vikings banned adrian peterson from all team activities until his child abuse case is decided. also banned the carolina panthers star lineman greg hardy who is appealing a domestic violence conviction for his part. nischelle turner is here with all of the very latest. >> it's like you have to take a breath after saying all of that. >> there was a lot of them. >> it's a laundry list. greg hardy said he was going to take this time to focus on his family. adrian peterson essentially saying the same thing. both men say they are eager to get back on the field apparently, so is ray rice, hence his appeal, but now another player arrested for domestic violence and this time taken off the field immediately. >> it's dwyer, he's in. >> reporter: this morning, jonathan dwyer, a running back for the arizona cardinals, now in custody. >> reporter: are you sorry this happened? >> reporter: the football star is the sixth envelope nfl player making headlines for alleged abuse in the past now few days.
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dwyer arrested at the cardinals training facility yesterday and making his first court appearance overnight. this all stemming from a slew of alleged abuse beginning in late july, including one count of aggravated assault against a 27-year-old female, causing a fracture, and another involving his 18-month-old child. >> he has been interviewed by our detectives. he has admitted involvement in the incidents. however, has denied allegations of physical assault. >> reporter: police say during one incident, he threw a shoe at the 18-month-old, then tossed the cell phone of the female victim out a window, preventing her from calling police. the cardinals say they have taken the immediate step to deactivate jonathan from all team activities. >> jonathan dwyer who had the touchdown. >> reporter: half a dozen nfl players across the country are now facing domestic violence charges. >> there's no rule book for this guys. >> reporter: wednesday carolina panthers defensive end greg hardy took a voluntary paid
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leave of absence after being convicted for domestic violence. in may, authorities say hardy choked his then girlfriend, dragged her by her hair into a tub and threatened to kill her. the panthers star has asked for a new trial. >> we made a mistake, and we needed to get this right. >> reporter: the minnesota vikings deactivating running back adrian peterson facing a child abuse charge, retracting from an earlier decision to keep him in the game after sponsors voiced their outrange. many of peterson's teammates say he should stay on the field. >> growing up, that was nothing, man. my mom, she always whipped me up or and things like that, man. it's just, you know, in my culture that's how i was raised and that's how my mom she raised her kids. like i said, look at me now. i'm in the nfl. >> this seems to be the argument we have continuously heard from a number of players about the adrian peterson case. we did hear from some of his
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teammates yesterday who either were hesitant to talk or did back adrian fully. i asked some former and current players, why it was so hard for people to take a stand, people in the nfl. they said it's a hard thing to talk about and no one wants to look like they're turning on their teammate. >> it does put them maybe in an uncomfortable position. >> yes. >> this is an uncomfortable issue. >> every press conference, every interview about this that we've seen and done has just been awkward, no one wants to tackle this subject although it's a subject that needs to be tackled. >> the nfl needs to get it right how they're handling all of this. >> right and the one fair defense of the nfl is it's a little odd to be starting to look at this situation as like the flashpoint of domestic violence and the flashpoint of how our culture of how we raise kids. you know, the nfl is not the focus of the problem. this is society. >> we haven't talked a bit about the season on the field.
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they hate this. nothing. >> is this the place to fight the fight is the nfl? >> agreed but this is the nfl's fault. they needed to get their policy right. >> it sometimes gives us the platform to talk about bigger social issues. >> we need to talk about it clearly. should we look at headlines and we'll talk about that. >> please. >> history being made in scotland right now, millions of voters going to the polls to decide whether their nation should break off from the united kingdom after 307 years. polls show that the contest is just too close to call at this point. the future of scotland's oil, their currency, their flag and their relations with the u.s. all of that hangs in the balance. we should know the results friday morning. ebola patients in west africa apparently buying blood from people who have survived the virus. the world health organization reports there is an illegal trade in the blood thought to have antibodies to fight the disease. an american doctor is being treated in a nebraska hospital with blood donated from dr. kent
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new details are emerging about the prime suspect in last week's ambush of, on state troopers in pennsylvania. eric matthew frein was active in a military simulation unit, he re-enacted cold war era conflicts and is believed he assumed his simulation role in real life. police are also worried the alleged shooter may target more officers while he is still on the run. rosa flores is live in pennsylvania with the very latest on this search for frein. he's really terrorizing, paralyzing the town, rosa. >> reporter: good morning, kate. you know, hundreds of tips have come in from around the country.
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the command center was actually moved to a bigger building to accommodate all of the law enforcement, we're talking about fbi, atf, search teams as well, and now they're dealing with new clues, new details in a bizarre twist in the search for this wanted man. >> the suspect is still considered armed and dangerous. >> reporter: new details are emerging as the manhunt continues for eric matthew frein, the suspected cop killer on the run in rural pennsylvania. police are painting a picture of frein as a self-trained survivalist who harbor ace longstanding hatred towards law enforcement. authorities say frein belongs to a military simulation group where members assume the role of cold war era soldiers from eastern european countries. >> in his current frame of mind, frein appears to have assumed that role in real life. >> reporter: investigators say frein on the run since friday
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night recently changed his hairstyle in preparation for the shootings of corporal bryon dickson and trooper alex douglass. he now wears it shaved on both sides and long on top, wider than a mohawk. >> in the event you are listening to this broadcast on a portable radio while cowherring in a cool, damp hiding place. i want you to know one thing, eric, we are coming for you. >> reporter: hundreds of officers joined the search. frein's family told investigators two guns are missing from the home, including an ak-47. >> we have a suspect in this case who is anti-government. he is a hunter. he is a woodsman, and he is alleged to be a survivalist. that is a deadly cocktail. >> reporter: local schools are closed and frein's face is on flyers all over town as a community lives in fear. >> especially closing the store, i make sure that i have my
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weapon with me. now i'm a little more -- i have it on a little more often. >> people are uneasy. they want to know are my kids going to be safe. >> reporter: hearts are heavy in this community this morning. corporal bryon dickson will be laid to rest later this morning and many are expected to attend not only from this community but from other communities as well and kate, i should let you know this community is also doing something special in their homes to honor and remember this state trooper, they are adding blue light bulbs, whether it be inside their homes or outside their houses, just to show solidarity. kate? >> important to honor that officer, but also then the town still living in fear of what exactly is going on, where that man is lurking, that suspect is. rosa flores in pennsylvania for us, thank you so much. all right, so what's happening in the plan to fight isis? the house voted. they voted to approve the
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the u.s. is ramping up efforts in the fight againstis isis. that is one front of the fight against isis, the other of course in iraq and president obama continues to emphasize the limits of u.s. actions there. >> as your commander in chief i will not commit you an the rest of our armed forces to fighting another ground war in iraq. >> so is the administration's plan going to be effective to defeat isis and should the u.s. be trying to take on the terror group at all, as many are beginning to question. joining me now to discuss kirk lippell, who was the commanding officer of the "uss cole" when it was bombed by al qaeda
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terrorists back in 2000 and also joining us this morning, hillary levrett author of "going to tehran why america must accept the islamic republic of iran." good morning to both of but >> good morning. >> we just had the president's deputy national security adviser on tony blinken. on the issue of syria, since that is the focus of today with the senate expected to vote he said the government over the past couple years has built up a knowledge base so they believe they can better vet these rebels, they know what they're tapable of, how they will fight and what they can do. this moderate opposition in syria. there is a lot of skepticism on capitol hill. we heard that from senator susan collins today. do you think that the moderate opposition can be trusted? >> right now unless we know specifically who they are and in fact, have intelligence with people on the ground who are with them, working with them and feeding back into our intelligence apparatus, i would be very apprehensive, because we need to look at the second and
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third order impacts of arming them. when we arm the syrian rebels even if they are moderates if if we believe the weapons would only be used against isis and not the assad government i think we're deluding ourselves. >> hillary, what then? >> well, i agree, in fact, it's the so-called moderate syrian oppositionists who reportedly kidnapped steve sotloff and sold him to isis to be beheaded. they have entered into a non-aggression pact with isis to fight against the assad government. we've gone down this disastrous road before when we've armed, trained and funded sunni militants in afghanistan, in libya, in iraq itself, 80,000 there. we know how this story ends. every single time those american weapons, those trained soldiers, trained by the united states come back to attack us. we know how this ends. we really need to now get out of the way. we need to recast our policy in
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the middle east, and take a step back. we put 125,000 troops into iraq, eight years of time. >> but hillary if you don't take on isis in syria, why even take on isis at all in iraq? >> we shouldn't. this is a scorpion. we either need to get out of the way for this scorpion or we step on it to our peril as we're hearing about today in australia, a purported plot by isis sympathizers. there are americans who are in ice ice, lots of europeans and there are thousands of saudis and other arabs and muslims in is isis. this is a problem in the middle east particularly in the sunni muslim world and right now their target is mecca and medina to take over the sunni muslim world and establish a caliphate there. if we bomb them and continue to bomb them, their target will be here as was al qaeda, their target will be new york, but right now it's not. we can prevent another 9/11, if we had a better policy but
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instead of stepping back and admitting the problems in our own previous policies, we're doubling down on those very same problems, and creating conditions for yet another 9/11. >> i need to step in. >> go ahead i want to get your response. >> i think at this point a policy of disengagement with the belief that if we do not get involved over there is somehow going to preserve american lives because they won't attack us is not based on any degree of fact. they already kidnapped americans. that means they're already harming americans. the fact that they stepped it up for strategic purposes to behead them, to recruit clearly indicates that there will be no end to this. we need to do exactly what she said, and that is step on the scorpion. if we're going to get engaged, we need to be able to use every instrument of national power at the president's disposal. when the president says i am not going to commit ground troops, if, in fact, isis is an existential threat to the united
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states, if in fact we believe that we are at war with them, then the president must be willing to commit and that means ground troops, if necessary. otherwise, our allies in the region are already hesitating, because they know we are not full in. if it's a threat to americans, it's a threat to americans -- >> hold on hillary, go ahead. >> if it's a threat to americans we have to assess that threat, determine if that threat is going to come here even before the beheading of the two journalists happened, then we need to go after them. >> go ahead hillary. >> to not do that is trouble. >> the facts are from president obama saying that isis was the jv team of terrorism to our own cia to our own center for counterterrorism, the facts are right now isis does not have the united states as a target. what we're doing, though, puts us in their target range. we could get out of their way or we can make ourselves a target. we put hundreds of thousands of troops into the middle east, $1
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trillion and eight years of neverending war. president owe pa ma had a chance to recalibrate, to restore our relationship with the muslim world. that's what he came in, when he said he was elected. >> right now -- >> but instead of restoring our relations with the muslim world he doubled down on the policies of the prior administration, continued having large troop presence there, and antagonizing the muslim world. libya, the disaster in libya was wholly created and opened another battlefield for these islamist militants. >> let's talk about where we are right now. let's talk about where we are right now. there's no indication that the white house is going to be pulling back further from the strategy that the president laid out in his address to the nation. >> there's no indication he's committed to the strategy either. there's a tremendous amount of -- >> let me actually i want you to get in on that hillary but i want to direct that question to you as well commander. it sounds you have very little confidence in the rebels in syria in the moderate opposition but then what is the alternative, because as you
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said, you need to go into syria if you're at all going to tackle and defeat isis. >> i think one specific area we have not addressed and we have to look at is what are the funding sources for isis. how are they getting the money? are they getting it through the sale of elicit oil going throughout the region? we need to look at what is funding them, how are they being funded, what are the financial backing. if we can get to the sources, that requires a robust intelligence response, you cut them off financially, you go to the governments where we have traced it back to, providing support or turning a blind eye to their people supporting, saudi arabia, for example, then we put the squeeze on them. if it's a threat to the region, those other countries should recognize that threat and do what is necessary. that's one aspect that hasn't even been addressed yet. but by the same token i still believe every instrument of national power needs to be addressed. i think the american people at this point are realizing that we
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have a somewhat disjointed response to this threat that is coming to the united states. >> and it seems -- >> and if we don't begin to address it we are going to be in trouble because they will come here. you have kidnapped americans and to somehow believe that just because we have people over there -- they're harming americans already. >> it seems hillary the disjointed response you may agree on but for very different reasons. go ahead. >> the point about the financing, that's something that we've heard about every one of these aspects in the so-called war on terror. the real problem that we ignore to our peril is what is happening among sunni and muslim populations who are becoming even more alienated and even more resentful to the united states as the cia has put out, they have now dramatically revised their estimates of the number of warriors fighting for isis, not because they're being paid. that's because they believe in it, they want to join this fight. we've gone from an estimate of 5,000 fighters to now over 30,000 fighters, that surge in recruitment is because they see
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it now as a u.s. war against islam, because the united states has increased this bombing and has put, has declared itself to recommit to a never-ending war against islam. that is surging recruitment, so instead of now having a couple hundred people that they could tap into to get a suicide bomber to get on the next plane to new york, they now have about 50,000. that's a serious threat. that's a threat to the united states. >> that is a scary thought. that is one point though, that the president's deputy national security adviser was definitely trying to hammer home in his interview with chris earlier, there are more than 40 countries that want to take part in this coalition and they're going to be rolling out i think that's where a big question has been. they're going to be rolling out what their roles are, what they're going to be doing, what they feel comfortable contributing, that's the part where i think there's a lot of question, what their buy-in actually is. commander kirk lipold, hillary
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all right here we go with the five things you need to know for your "new day." at number one new york police commissioner bill brattin says the city has entered a new era of terror threats. the expanded potential for attacks in the new york can be seen in the arrest of a rochester man charged with supporting isis. police raids in australia
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foiling what authorities say was a pending terror attack. reports say someone could have been beheaded in public. seven people are now in custody, two of them charged, one with terror and conspiracy counts. ferguson police officer darren wilson appeared before a grand jury investigating the michael brown shooting. officer wilson was said to be cooperative as he recounted the shooting last month. a senior va official admits delays in health care led to deaths of patients at the va system in phoenix, this is a reversal from an earlier report that found no link between deaths and delays in medical care there. at number five, it is decision day in scotland, voters now answering yes or no to the referendum question, should scotland be an independent nation? we should know that the results of that vote tomorrow morning. those are the five things to know for your "new day." here are a few extras to help brighten your day.
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arizona cardinals running back jonathan dwyer has been deactivated over domestic abuse allegations the latest in a string of serious missteps for the league. fran tarkington will join us to talk about all that's going on with the nfl. nder dragons, it's time to get a hotel. hey, razor. check this out. we can save big with priceline express deals. hey you know what man, these guys aint no dragons. they're cool. these deals are legit. yeah, we're cool. she's cool. we're cool.
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welcome back to "new day." ten minutes before the hour here. arizona cardinals running back jonathan dwyer the latest football star taken off the field after a domestic violence charge. this time with dwyer he was booked on charges of aggravated assault and preventing someone from calling 911. what is going on with the nfl? are they really the center of society's problem with domestic violence and what we're doing with our kids? let's bring in fran tarkington, a name you know, hall of fame quarterback played for the vikings, 13 seasons including being on the first team at the club, he's also the founder of gosmallbiz.com.
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pleasure to have you on mr. tarkinton. >> thank you very much, chris, good to be with you. >> unfortunate to discuss the vikings in this context but as someone who built the ball club's reputation how do you feel it is handling this situation? >> i think they're doing very well. when you've got leaders in the wilf brothers that own the vikings, they're great citizens, doing a great job with our team and when this happened with adrian peterson they got it right the first time and didn't let him play last week, then they went back and said well we're going to let him play this week and let the legal system play its way out. the response for that was pretty horrific. i responded and said i was embarrassed that they made this decision. this is really tough stuff, important stuff. if we cannot protect our children and protect our women, what kind of a country are we? and the nfl is the face right now of america. it's out there, we're watching
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nfl football thursday night, saturday -- friday, sunday nights, monday nights, and it's, everybody wants to watch professional football by the tens of millions, and this is a platform for the wils and the other owners and a platform for roger goodell to get this right and make sure we show the women of america and the children that we have their back and i think what's been done by the wilfs is really good. >> they went back and forth, right? that wasn't the best kind of leadership. do you think the team and of course the league, the league really is about the owners, do you think the owners of the vikings should come out and say here is our policy. if you get jammed up or arrested for hurting anyone, let alone a woman, a domestic violence situation, including kids, you are off the team. we'll pay you, but you're off the team until the situation resolves. should they just come out and say it? >> i think they will. i this i that you will find roger goodell come out with some
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tough, tough words and penalties to handle this type of behavior. it's unacceptable. it should be zero tolerance, and i think that's understood now by the owners and understood by the league. we need roger goodell and his leadership to come out and be very strong on that. this jonathan dwyer thing that just came up that he's now been accused of this kind of abusing women, domestic violence, and immediately the arizona team have suspended him. that's exactly what they should do, and because if you take these people off the field and in some cases take their paycheck away, you'll get their attention, but we're going to get the attention from the rest of the country because this is a very visible organization, the nfl. >> why hasn't the league come out and said here's the policy. forget about six games. until it's resolved, if you get arrested for this type of crime, you're out until then. the players union will push back
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and they'll say hold on, you can't take away their money, what if it's resolved in their favor? you just keep paying them. money is not a problem for the league. >> not a problem at all, and you've got a good point there, and i think that you will see -- i very much expect something to come out of roger goodell's office on this type of punishment. it came out the first time, the two-game suspension and he said "i was wrong." isn't it nice that we hear a leader say "i was wrong" and he came back and he increased it, and to six games and the second time that this happens it's permanent dismissal. i think he'll come back with very, very strong actions against this type of behavior, and other types of negative behavior that could go on with nfl players. >> fran it's good to hear a leader admit when they're wrong and it's better for them to get it right. your connection to the team is still strong. adrian peterson, many are just getting introduced to him if they're not a fan of the nfl and
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even if they are they're getting introduced to him as a person. what do you know about him as a person? >> everything i hear is great. he's probably the greatest r running back we've seen since jimmy brown. people like him and respect him and i think it's hard on minnesotans, hard on the football team. this needs to be looked at. he's been charged with abuse of a 4-year-old child of his. i think he had an issue with another young child of his a year before that we never heard about, and i think it's got to be vetted out, and i think they're doing the right thing, they're paying adrian peterson, they're taking him away from the team so he can deal with his own legal problems and let's see where it goes. >> fran tarkenton, it was amazing watching you play, you're a legend in this sport and it's important to have your voice on this. thank you for being on "new day." >> thank you very much. >> we'll have more on that chilling terror threat and raid in australia. plotting to kidnap and behead a
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